Adobe: A Disgusting, Criminal Company
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Hello everybody and welcome to Bull Technology. It’s no secret that I don’t like Adobe, and over the years I have slowly weaned myself off of using their terrible products. From the outrageous subscription scheme, to the unbelievable levels of bloat, to the utter brokenness of their applications, I had just had enough, and am now happily content using Affinity Photo and Final Cut Pro. But recently Adobe has once again been in the headlines for yet another egregious business practice, and I feel it is appropriate to make this video. So today we will enumerate all the horrific corporate chicanery Adobe has pulled over the years, and cover the recent controversy. And hopefully by the end of this video, Adobe’s stock price will have dropped by a couple points.
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pirating adobe products is morally correct
I would have to agree
Piracy or anyway of circumventing or breaking the laws are morally incorrect.
That said, specific circumstances make those acts understandable, sometimes justifiable (more and more in those times where Big Tech companies initiate a trend to fu** up consumers even many small companies adopted).
And in some cases, it's just a natural behavior from consumers in the game of who's dumber. The scum who came up with abusive terms and/or marketing or the consumers who just stopped letting them taking them for fools.
Is what I've done for years, just hate their ToS quite simply, if I even use them at all, even heard people pirate them whilst paying as well so....
@@bull_technology Pirating Adobe software is very f***ing stupid as all you are doing is reinforcing the software market share and subsequent demand for Adobe trained creatives for (insert your pirated Adobe product/s) thus keeping their software relevant and the "industry standard". Pirated copies of Adobe Photoshop got into this situation by exactly this path!
The far better option for the longer term (though not possible for every creative) is to support/develop and use FOSS/OSS wherever possible in your creative production pipeline. If this means throwing the developers a cup of coffee or more every so often then...
I dropped Autodesk products to all open source over 16 yrs ago after they killed off Softimage and completely destroy my work pipeline thus forcing me to use 3D Max or Maya. I switched to Blender 3D and although it was hard at first the decision is fast proving to be the best creative software decision I have ever made in the longer term.
The Blender Foundation has shown what can be done when creatives support a project such as FOSS. Blender has earned support from large corporations like Nvidia, Intel, AMD and Dell to name a few. Also their user support groups are probably the best for any software. Given another 5 yrs or so Blender may well take top spot away from AD's suite of tools.
Ultimately though...people are stupid!
the more morally correct thing imo is not to touch their products, because even if you are not paying them, you are still using their products and anything made by you will always be an advertisement for their software and that will minimize the development of alternative which is keep their monopoly alive. this is the reason why photoshop has become a verb since most people pirate it instead of using an alternative even if they are only using less 10% of what it can do.
Another scummy company is Autodesk.
And i stopped using them both some years ago.
@@JohnRWMarchant Same. I had 3D Studio Max since the 90's. I unwittingly became an Autodesk customer and stopped being a customer when they demanded I buy the software I owned again. It was hard but I kissed goodbye to Max and all my Adobe software. In the process I have save myself 10's of thousands of dollars by not giving in to blackmail.
if it starts with an a, don't use it
@@SjorsMasteryeah using Amogus isn't very good too
True. After you paid for the software and then you can’t use it after a year.
A lot of people don’t realise that when a product gets wrapped as a service, there’s another catch, that you are on the latest version and you have no choice. If the latest version breaks something that matters to you, TOUGH!!
What happened to the days when the purchase price for software represented owning a functional copy of the software code _as released?_
@@Stratelier simple really, GREED! You have to remember that some people get to the top because they _aren’t_ nice people.
Or maybe the new update won't work on your hardware.
@@ian_b yes, and then you’re left with an expensive dilemma. There’s also the malicious update issue to consider. I’ve heard of IP cameras that were promised lifetime support suddenly being a subscription, and the Sonos bricking scandal, Tesla’s supercharging, GMs heated seats and so on.
Give ‘em an inch and they’ll take everything they can.
You can install older versions of adobe software pretty easily
I urge everyone to not use adobe products. Not even to pirate them. The less the industry relies on them the sooner correct changes will be made. I've been loving using the Affinity suite and Davinci resolve for video work. Short of Adobe being the industry standard they're just better products, less prone to crashes too
This is why competition is important. Eventually more and more people will move over to a competitor and Adobe will be forced to treat their customers fairly again.
Thanks for advising!
Going to give it a 1 year try out 🎉
I use DaVinci Resolve for video editing. I have never used Adobe PP or AE
Totally agree, using pirate products doesn't really bother big companies as long as their products are the most used in every PC becoming the "standard di facto"
Imagine the future…
Adobe decides to double or even triple the monthly subscription fee… and there’s nothing you can do about it.
This is why subscription software is a fucking con.
Which is why you should never buy a subscription-based business-critical product.You basically sell a portion of your business to them.
......".and there's nothing you can do about it."... other then not give them your money and switch up to better product
Fun fact: adobe switched to a subscription model not because it made more money, but because subscriptions are taxed different and it lowered their tax bill.
This certainly is a fun fact and thank you for sharing it! I'm not sure which is more disgusting though: switching to price gouge or switching for tax incentives.
They could've made subscriptions much cheaper though
@@bull_technology It's every company's obligation to its shareholders to try to minimise its tax burden while maximising its profit (legally). It's your responsibility as a customer to ditch companies that don't offer good value. There's also only one entity to blame for stupid tax incentives, and that's the government. If you want blame with names and surnames, you can blame the individuals who keep voting for big governments that love to tax and spend, who just won't leave people TF alone and will constantly burden them with silly regulations pulled out of their backsides.
@@chesshooligan1282 this is a legalistic approach. There is clearly a problem with the law, when you look at all of the unethical choices that have been made by companies simply trying to make the ‘best choices for their shareholders’
@@clipdump Yes, of course, we agree on that. The problem is with the arrogance of politicians, who think they know what's good for the consumer better than the consumer knows himself. Always tweaking things, can't leave people to make their own decisions in a free market. But ultimately the problem is with the people that vote for these politicians.
I refuse to use "software as a service" for simple practical reasons; I don't know what my financial situation may be in the future, and if I had to cancel the subscription then any files I've created with it become useless. It means I have to pay what amounts to a ransom to unlock the data I created in the past. That just is not acceptable to me.
moved away permanently from adobe products , my clients also agree with this they're in the process of moving away from these criminals as well. adobe will have fun training their ai with poisoned images i left in cloud.
Well played sir!
They will circumvent the poisoning eventually, so you just know
Affinity, Final Cut Pro and Capture One got me away from Adobe forever
Final Cut Pro and Pixelmator for me - I am so happy after leaving adobe, now I have cheaper and better software
KDenlive, InkScape and OpenSuite are Worth enough
Davinci Resolve is waaaaay better then premiere. Capture one and Affinity suite for the win.
@@marsrii4372 the "for the win" lost me, chief
After realizing that their buggy application codebase is from 90's. They are years behind.
yes but they are milking their position. executives dont care about code, they care about profits (at any cost)
Back in the day, I made stuff for giant clients like COCA-COLA, PEPSI, HEINEKEN, CITIBANK, NIKE, SAMSUNG, BMW, and whole bunch of others, using Photoshop 5.5 which you can literally copy and paste on as many computers as you want. It doesn't even require an installation. If I could land such customers 20+ years ago with PS 5.5 which I STILL use sometimes, it proves that YOU DO NOT NEED the latest gimmick in order to be creative. Its the artist, not the tool. The tool certainly helps, but don't give the "modern versions" more credit than they deserve.
Freehand, flash, authorware and fireworks were amazing. Macromedia had better web technology and were in a position to dominate. Massive fail selling to Adobe.
Greed
I read somewhat recently that Adobe doesn't care about individual people pirating their "products" because they make so much from business licenses/contracts that it doesn't matter. See how long that lasts now that so many companies are realizing how bottom of the barrel Adobe is.
Read* can be pronounced as ‘red’ or ‘reed’ but are spelt the same. Maybe you used speech to text
@@garretreed9709 Oh I know, must have missed a letter while typing. Good shout though.
You can’t say they don’t care. It’s good for them to keep a big community around their products. If old users start to learn other software new users will start from other software too (tutorials, recommendations etc.). That’s why it’s good for them that 90% of users choose Photoshop for example. If it would be not possible to use it for free it wasn’t so popular. You can start learning with cracked software. But in the future companies will buy what’s popular so it can recruit people more easily. That’s why companies don’t use free Gimp for example. Almost nobody knows it.
@@phat80 gimp is not sufficient, that's why companies don't use it. you can request it if that's your preference but they will still have a full adobe suit for everyone
@@solarydays Gimp is just example. And this is the reason why it’s so bad. Almost nobody use it.
That's why I sail the high seas.
LOL, reading between the lines here. Between the single line... you know what I mean.
@@MorningNapalmliterally everyone know what you mean
Aarrrrrrr! 🏴☠️😉
On a yacht?
Getintopc
YW
Few years back I found a sealed Adobe creative suite box at a thrift store. $3, with fully legal Photoshop, Premiere, Illustrator, After Effects etc. I was so glad. That's what I've been using ever since. Refused all of Adobe's cloud advances. Do not care what features they've added later on. As long as EXR support is present, I can work. With older software, I can go back all the way to Windows 7 if I want to, on older computers, and still have all of my tools. Will even work on 32-bit OS. What's not to love! I haven't had to buy anything else from Adobe ever and not going to.
I know, that according to Adobe, people aren't supposed to use their old products. They want to dictate when you buy stuff, and I raise the middle finger to that. I bought my legal copies of software fair and square. It's all legal. I can show them my $3 receipt.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using an older version of Adobe's software--I used CS3 for almost 15 years with no problems. I'm just glad you were able to get such a bargain!
Have always pirated their software, 50$ per month is absolutely not acceptable for what the software is. I now feel really great about it. Not only that, I keep the pirated adobe software running behind a firewall where it doesn’t have any internet access.
Splendid--Adobe doesn't need anyone's data. I'm surprised by the number of people that openly admit pirating Adobe's software, but maybe I really shouldn't be with how they act.
How does one pirate something that insists on phoning home all the time?
@@ArchTeryx00response server running locally.
@@bull_technology I used to feel guilty about it. I got trained over CS licenses by my employers but as I moved on, I could not afford it for myself so I would quietly and self-loathingly pirate it and use it.
Then I started noticing how well priced alternatives are and that Adobe is basically enjoying monopolistic practices. Then I got to know from a friend who was getting extorted when he tried to cancel a sub. Then that guilt converted into pride.
I am going to get affinity license now, will learn it first.
In complete contrast, FL Studio (music daw software), sets an example. It is the industry leading DAW, gigantic piece of software, loaded with features, at the very top, no one even comes close to them, yet they don't exploit their customer base. They ask for a meager 100$ one time cost. Everyone else follows the standard. I wish more business could be like that.
@@ArchTeryx00 haha, it is not even worth pirating you mean? I hear ya!
So if you are under NDA for a project you are working on who is legally liable when Adobe scrapes that confidential content? Using Adobe products is now potential legal liability for the user.
correct.
When CS6 was announced as the last Creative Suite, I bought it, thinking I would just own it. The problem is that Adobe had delayed their 64-Bit transition longer than any other company out there, and once the CS6 sales had peaked, CC came and soon after, 64-Bit. Apple moved forward (I cannot blame them for this; all decent companies had done their 64-Bit transition years ago, under some pressure from Apple to keep things up to date), and I lost access to CS6. Since then, I have owned zero Adobe products. If they ever decide to release another versions of CS (not CC) and give all their CS6 customers a free upgrade, I would use it again. Under all other circumstances I will never touch Adobe products again in my life.
That was a major issue for me as well. I used CS3 for ages until Apple axed 32-Bit support several years ago, and this was my main driving factor in making the switch to Affinity.
It was clear that 64bit was being held back for their subscription service. It was a really sh1tty move from a garbage company. I used to do IT support for a graphic design department and Adobe software was about 95% of the problems I had to deal with, it was so buggy and really not what I would call pro level at all. From what I gather it is no different now, still full of bugs and now massively over priced too.
our government school in india taught us to download office and photoshop for free... it's impossible for unemployed students like us who can't get a job without a degree to afford hundreds of dollars in subscriptions
Ok tell me, how to do this
Wish I had a School like that. My college forces me to pay for Adobe software. With student discount. 20$ month. During that time I didn't know they charged a fee. When I couldn't pay for next month I tried to cancel and they were going to charge me 198$ fee. Like wtf I decided to switch to an actual competitor in secret. School hasn't noticed yet.
This catch-22 really peez me off. You can't get the skills you need in industry to make money to buy the software without having money to buy the software.
same, as a moroccan the first thing they thought us in interior design was how to pirate the whole lineup of adobe and autodesk
@@UnitSe7en you only get money if you have money...same with many health systems around the world. You go to the doctor, pay in full, and then the country reimburses you. Is that fair also?
I just checked the stock price and Adobe keeps going up. Apparently Wall Street isn’t concerned about people leaving the creative suite for other software. They see potential future value in something else.
The money isn't made from individuals. Its from large companies with hundreds or thousands of subscriptions.
Maybe not that much are leaving, the few folks here and on other channels make no difference?
Same story with Desktop-Linux idling at 4% for many years, while lots of Linux-nerd-channels try to tell you that "now" is the time.
Not an Adobe fan, but lets face reality.
Pirated Software calling home ? Turn off your internet connection, why one needs to be online 24/7 ?
Affinity is not ready to read all that stuff Adobe files contain, missing features too. Which makes it nearly impossible for big companies to do a switch to whatever.
Try to read a complex Illustrator file into Affinity Designer... or Inkscape. Symbols gone, Text gone names/layers gone, not that much of an alternative atm.
And then, Affinity was bought by Canva. 99% sure they will pull out a subscription-crap for Affiinity.
Companies are there to make money, not for producing good/cheap software.
Similar for food-companies, or is everything in a supermarket healthy and cheap because they care so much about us ?
greedy decisions = can drive profits up = "investors" come in (just a fancy word for greedy bastards wanting more money)
Why the hell would anyone pay them for their software when they want to scam you?
People are trend/fashion slaves. You must have noticed that just by walking around the city.
The path of least resistance may work like a trap.
@@FictionCautious Agree
@@FictionCautious Agree
Lightroom. No alternative. 😢
@@ursmeyer5913 Go pirate version.
If people stopped giving Adobe money, and donated a fraction of that money to GIMP, Krita, and Inkscape, we'd have world class Open Source alternatives that everyone can use, and no company could take away from us.
Could I please throw in Blender and LibreOffice into that nice list that you put together?
Software subscriptions are like living with an abusive partner. Everyday you come home expecting peace and tranquility but there's another letter with a whole new set of demands from her lawyer telling you what you must agree to or else. People have to get it into their heads that you can walk away and go through the pain of divorce and kicking abusive "partners" to the curb.
Everyone, please stop with the Stockholm syndrome and the Adobe problem goes away.
You own nothing and you're at their mercy. You could argue that you never own software, you always license it in today's world, but at least fully offline buy-once-use-forever software without forced cloud connectivity or subscriptions is quite close to "owning it".
It’s like renting an apartment. Oh no
@@garretreed9709 Actually renters have some rights. People leasing a software license are quite an unprotected group.
I just read this exact comment on another video - I hope for your sake you are the same person who wrote and posted the other one or that would be rather ironic indeed! 😂
@@awlhunt For my sake? I've left the comment on may other videos, if someone copies it and posts it elsewhere more power to them. Not sure what you see as ironic or why you felt the need to make this comment. Do you work for Adobe?
Adobe have tried to buy Canva multiple times and after being rejected time and time again, they flat out copied them with Adobe Express.
Finally somebody calls it like it is. The problem is far far beyond just Adobe's garbage policy updates and the price they charge, it is also the fact that I've been using their apps for the past 5 years and I have seen VERY LITTLE changes for the better in Illustrator, Photoshop, or After Effects, in fact, I'm largely sure that I could even count the changes on my fingers.
They've remained the exact same heaping pile of unoptimized garbage that they are, and year after year, all they've just added features that nobody asked for, or wants, when their app performs like dogshit, with existing features either being broken, or having stupid workflow.
This has so many implications, Artists are more often than not limited by tools, and Adobe's complacency is leading to an industry that is limiting said artists from experimenting and trying out new things. I know that's a very strong statement, but take a look at the 3D side of things, the competition there is insane, and the kind of changes you get within one update renders the previous version obsolete simply because the new one is so goddamn useful.
This is further not helped by the fact that their take on AI is useless. The only AI feature I use is Generative Fill, and even that is limited to a paltry resolution of 1024x1024. They try to shove Generative features down your throat, but all you have to do is take a quick look at Figma's latest update to realize what AI features should look like
Indeed! I couldn't agree more. I was able to gain access to CC for a few months several years ago, and I was absolutely amazed at how utter broken and un-optimized Photoshop and Premier were. It's outrageous that Adobe will charge you $60 a month to use this software. Unreal.
But thanks for the comment!
#ArtistsAgainstGenerativeAI
Indeed. What's really sleazy is Adobe has been implementing their AI as a way to generate images that replace stock photos. Some people make an entire living out of creating stock images. So Adobe will train it's AI on stock photos people upload to the platform and then put those same people out of work. Nasty
@@bull_technology If Adobe won't others will. That will harm their monopoly
I’d been thinking about stopping my photography suite subscription for quite some time, years even! Then I noticed the bad press they were receiving and decided to scrutinise my subscription further. Cut a long storey short, Adobe are now in my past for all the reasons you mention and some. I’m a happy Affinity combined with Davinci Res Studio (which i’ve used for some time) user bunny now, well for now!!
I stopped using Adobe 6 years ago. Affinity and Davinci Resolve replaced them entirely for me.
8:35 you know to never trust a corporation like Adobe when their literal logo on the side of their buildings looks nearly identical to Abstergo Industries.
adobe has been an awesome experience since I use pirated versions for the last 7 years.
Yeah, but Adobe soft sucks so bad it’s not even worth pirating.
@@marsrii4372 The only best software made by Adobe is Adobe After Effects so it was worth pirating because there is no match for After Effects in the market. AE is a master piece.
glad i got out of using adobe decades ago , been happily using freeware stuff like krita , kdenlive , blender etc
Krita is a lovely program, and great for hand drawn animation.
Krita and Blender are soooo good! They run super well on linux
I still use CS6 with Windows 11. For what I need, it still does the job. I never bothered with a subscription although had considered it a few times in the past. If I ever got back into needing newer versions, I now would not get a subscription and would instead choose an alternative product.
windows 11....are you sure about your life choices?
@@TheRimBrakeGuy Absolutely. I have one Windows 11 desktop computer, multiple Linux desktops, and dozens of Linux servers. For some things I find Windows useful.
Edit to add: The best thing I ever did with my relatively unused MacBook 2015 was install Linux on it. Now I use it all the time.
Anytime these companies do shit like this. It's never for the benefit of that of the customer. No matter how many times they say they do and or by actions they take to make it seem so. It's always about money.
Absolutely. We as users need to hold these companies accountable too and say no to products like this.
Cancelled plan 3 weeks ago. Deleted all adobe from laptop. Plan expired. Done with it.
Next day get email saying “photoshop suspended”. Auto renew payment failed.
Wtf are you doing adobie?
Wow… Just wow. That's pretty unbelievable.
@@bull_technology Check out the comments on their Trustpilot page. Yikes.
They did the same to me. I had to call them to make sure they cancelled it and waited on the phone until I got a confirmation email.
@@cece-fl3ng they start to remind me indian scam companies
This also happened to me. Thankfully, I used a payment solution that allowed me to block the merchants. I blocked Adobe.
We're a band of vicious pirates!
A sailin´ out to sea.
When you hear our gentle singing...
You'll be sure to turn and flee!
That is what you see with so many corporations which are on the stock market: Profit and stock holders become more important than anything.
If corporations are persons, then public stock (and fiduciary duty) is slavery.
They literally pay walled adobe spark. It use to be a good alternative for those who don't have money. Now you have to pay to even export an image.
Adobe was the first company that rolled out software as a service, where you can no longer own it outright and have to rent it. Since then it’s proven to be a very lucrative business model that almost every other software company has jumped on that bandwagon.
Regarding ownership it's much worse: everything you *create* with 'rented' software you don't own either, because the moment you stop paying for the subscription, that's when you lose access to everything you made with that software. Yes, many other apps can open and import PSD, and AI files, but that's just because they reverse engineered Adobe's proprietary file formats and not by design.
To be honest, I've tried replacing Adobe with other software, and you can totally use Da Vinci Resolve, Blender, Figma, CLP, Fusion... BUT when it comes to Photoshop, Illustrator, or Audition, there's just no competition! Anyone who says Gimp, Inkscape, or Audacity can replace them is just nuts!
Macromedia fireworks was great. Was still using it despite it being 15 years old until recently, where upgrading to windows 11 (a mistake) finally was too much for it to run. I have the full affinity suite now (I recommend the full suite over just photo alone, personally), and it's good and all, but fireworks was just so much more intuitive, and had everything I needed. Was a bummer when adobe bought them. Though speaking of affinity, I bought affinity designer, liked it enough that I wanted the suite, and their customer service being the absolute legends that they are, refunded me so I could buy the suite (to save having to buy one of the products twice). Didn't even need to ask them, they just offered it when I asked if there was an upgrade option. I'll always support companies that are customer friendly like that, for so long as they continue to be.
The problem is that adobe products are industry standard. You cant get a job without knowing them because mass people use their products only. You become irrelevant and also cross platform project collaboration is tedious. Their own product ecosystem also works like apple. You have to use adobe products to cross link files.
As a teacher at a British International school, my situation is a bit different from those professionals who have been using Adobe's applications for creating and publishing artwork and articles and so on. Still, I might have something of interest to say:
Like "Bull Technology" who makes this RUclips channel I felt insulted when Adobe switched to the subscription model. I decided that from now and on I would - as much as possible - only teach free apps. I went for GIMP instead of Photoshop and Inkscape instead of Illustrator. When it comes to video editing, I realised that Blender can do the job apart from all other stuff it can do.
On a related note, I also would have liked to throw out everything Microsoft replacing it with Linux as platform and LibreOffice instead of Word-Excel-PowerPoint and database, but that would have upset the routines for the rest of the school outside of computing teaching.
With Blender - great free tool by the way - and GIMP and Inkscape I have done what I can at my school to set the kids, my computer teacher colleague and myself free. I would recommend these apps to anyone else out there as well. Also, again, don't forget about Linux and LibreOffice.
Hugs to everyone who loves software freedom from a Swedish guy teaching computing in China.
Makes me feel so much better about keeping my cracked CS6 suite for all these years
I purchased and used Adobe software for years but never joined the subscription. I am still adamantly opposed to renting it and I won’t do it.
Actually I’d love to see a video about Flash. I need to know why it was so great and awful at the same time. Also what’s Apples beef with it
Alrighty, I'll keep that on the video docket. Thanks for the comment!
@@bull_technology God almighty, don't get me started on Flash! I had issues enough with the Macro devs, met them a couple of times when I worked for Disney mobile, and gave them a list of desperately needed fixes. One of them called it a "wish list". F*cker, one of my 'wishes' was to expand the frame number panel from two digits to several, as every time the timeline went over 100, you didn't know if you were on frame 10 or 101. So you'd have to wiggle it back and forth. A friend was a programmer, I asked him how much time it would take him to fix that if he had access to the code, answer: a couple of hours. Well, Mister Macro Dev, your failure to implement that "wish" cost god only knows how many artist hours and errors, for a 2 hour code fix on your side.
Adobe are vermin, but Macromedia were also a nightmare in the Flash side, if you were an animator. They only cared about the interactive side of that program, which they ran into the ground in any case.
Still makes me angry. Oh, the AnimateCC has fixed that issue and many others, but at the cost of staggering bloat and speed hits. The program will barely run files that I created in the Macromedia era, even though my PC is vastly more powerful.
I got an adobe ad before watching this vid
Haha that's great. Hey if Adobe wants to pay for RUclips advertising on a video trashing them… That's fine by me!
The annual subscription is a shit. I already moved to a different platform
Bought Adobe products from 1987 to 1999. No longer. The subscription model is highway robbery. I still use Photoshop CS4 which is a perfectly stable application and Illustrator CS2 daily for my business. I downloaded free versions when my computer crashed a couple of years ago. No, I don't feel bad.
If you never tried to use CorelDraw to design an entire 120 page MAGAZINE back in the '90s, who don't know what you've missed by paying the clowns of Adobe. The software on a Pentium II / 3 was so fast, it would run circles around Illustrator or Quark Xpress on a Mac G4/G5 or even a PC. I was NEVER dissapointed by software made by Canadian companies. Lightwave3D, Video Toaster, Alias|Wavefront, CorelDraw, Softimage, the list goes on. Most movie VFX and design of the '90s was made with Canadian software. From Jurassic Park and Babylon 5 to Titanic
I would love to see a new FREEHAND 2025! I remember when Adobe discontinued it, forcing everyone to move to Illustrator. Freehand was a joy to work with.
I'm happy this is finally coming out, I covered these issues in an article years ago. I was a customer for decades but unsubbed years ago because they wree doing these things and worse already since many years, it's only becoming obvious to thee average user now.
i cut the cord over two years ago and never looked back
9:57 I have been working on computers since the 386 processor days. I had clients that had very sensitive data on their networks. I was asked about them using cloud storage and even back then I asked, "If it is on the cloud, who will have access?" I could see this coming a mile away, I don't put anything important of mine on the cloud. I used to use Adobe products, but not any more.
Its just a shame that when Adobe went to subscription, the entire world couldn't band together and just refuse to subscribe. They would have been forced to backtrack. (sigh) People power only works when everyone is on board.
If you are making $13.717 billion profit in one 12 month period. You are not doing well, you are over-charging. Massively over charging. And to think, they secret used their user to hone their AI, while charging for the privilege. Adobe.s terms say you can’t sue in a class action. Isn’t that like a criminal saying, if we get caught, you can’t arrest us. Surely that term can be challenged in the courts too?
When I cancelled Adobe suite and they forced the early cancellation fee at me I immediately blocked th card
Actual scumbag company
Unreal. And most users have no idea that, if they cancel, they'll have to pay a cancellation fee.
@@bull_technology the support agent (since you HAVE to start a chat to cancel) used the fee to argue it would be best for me to keep the plan until it was up for renewal then cancel, and offered some months free if I continued...
Ignore that it would auto-renew with no warning if I forget
Unreal, so they push you around and attempt to get you to stay STILL.
Be careful. Even if your card is locked they will find a way to get the money anyway. I had to scream at the bank because of that. Not with Adobe, but another company. I’m just saying. From then on, I use a prepaid card for subscriptions.
@@cece-fl3ng I'd like to see them try, i live in Norway where consumer protection laws are incredibly strong thankfully
Even I, as an office worker who doesn't need graphic design tools, have suffered Adobe's bs. I needed to print a PDF, so I installed the lastest version of acrobat. The letters would always come out slanted for some reason. I thought it might have been a font compatibility issue (weird, since it was fking standard non italics Arial) so I looked for the "print as image" option... Disabled, only available for MacOS. The solution? I downloaded a 2010 version from the archive. Letters came out perfectly and the print as image option was available too
Although you can easily find replacements for Photoshop / Premiere, Illustrator is the most difficult to replace as it becomes the "standard" of designer file format, and there is almost no other software can open AI files (except those with PDF included).
I've been using the same versions of JASC paintshop for scanning and graphics, and Foxit Phantom for making PDFs, for 30 years. Who's this "adobe" everyone keeps talking about? When software vendors become slumlords, don't start paying rent. I'd rather live in a tent.
CC also allowed them to get lazy. Instead of having great and big updates, most of their software is relatively unchanged with only a few features (not including ai) added in the over 10 years it has been subscription. What has changed, is that the product has become less stable or them taking the lazy way out for newer file formats or operating systems. "Save as copy" anyone?
If a quarter of the money adobe gets went to open source projects adobe would not exist. OPEN SOURCE is the way. People need to donate so it can grow. 😊
Thank god i started my video editing journey on Davinci Resolve
Thank you Adobe for being greedy, and stupid we love you back!
This possibly explains why my wife’s CS5 could not be added to her new Mac, even though she has all the disks and serial numbers.
Possibly. I've heard that a lot of the activation servers for older CS software has been terminated by Adobe. Couple this with 64/32 bit conflicts and this just makes older CS versions harder to run on new machines
@@bull_technology CS3 activation servers were switched off a few years ago. Guess they couldn't afford to keep them on? Had to save some $?
Scummy company.
That's truly regrettable. I think it really demonstrates that even older versions of CS aren't worth your time. it's sad that after purchasing a piece of software, it can be rendered useless by the company years later.
how is adobe stock up 21.4% in the past 30 days? Is the world oblivious
It's completely upside down isn't it?
CS2 was the last time they got any of my money.
One product where Adobe still has creatives by the nads is Substance Painter. To my knowledge, there is no other program that even comes close to doing what SP can do.
Macromedia Flash was awesome ... until Steve Jobs and Adobe arrived ...
I don’t exactly get the “ADOBIE” joke, but it sure made me chuckle every time it popped up!
And yup, 💯 they are A-holes. Like so many, I’m imprisoned by them atm but intend to escape asap, when my lively hood isn’t chained to them.
A subscription fee for a software tool is a joke. For someone who wants to edit photos a few times a year it's a total rip off. Imagine if you had to pay a monthly subscription fee to use a hammer or a screwdriver or a drill.
Hope people boycott and not shore up to the yearly Adobe event
It cost me over £200 to cancel my subscription. I was with ADOBE from the creative 4 suite. Then the Cloud. Brainwashing customers to keep paying. Left them last year, I'm not missing the Fcukers.
Unreal! I'm sorry you had to experience that... nasty on Adobe's part
@@bull_technology thank you.
The last upgrade was Photoshop CS 6... and I stayed with it for almost 2 years until I realized there were many other products that were just as great at a reasonable price if we put in a little effort to learn and get used to it...
"Stop using Adobe"
Easier said than done when you are this invested in it for work.
One of the most notorious product under Adobe: Flash Player.
One of the most notorious product by Adobe: Photoshop.
luv this. the backlash is getting viral and global. will cancel my subscription next week. greetings from europe.
Glad to hear that you're canceling your subscription! We must all!
I stoped in 2021. Never looked back and never once felt the need to
Adobe is not for creatives anymore. Anyone using it from here is clearly dependent on their ai tools. "Photoshoped it" just means "ai garbage"
It sad because they use to have a good product and now they became way too greedy.
Btw. When you see a ?9.99 price you know that the company is dishonest and take out a too high prize, this is a scam that been normalized and legal. For a product may cost $57.67 but companies say they will round up the prize, for a normal person that had been $58 but for a greedy company that is $60. But the company know that is too much and that folk want to buy it for around 50 Dollars, so they lower the prize to $59.99 that is mathematically the same as $60 in economics. Companies know that their customers are idiots or still forced to buy to the higher prize for this is now a norm for when setting the prize, for 5.99 look smaller than 6.00 for folk, so it is obvious companies do this to scam.
This scam have become so common and normal that even videos that criticize a company like Adobe say the prize as 59.99 rather than 60 that is the correct prize.
What's weird....
Adobe, Microsoft and Google are being run by similar people...
I stayed with PS CS6 for a long time but it was getting increasingly difficult to use with new lenses, for lack of profile updates (new cameras would still be supported via the DNG image format and the DNG converter).
I was amazed at how little PS would *in substance* since CS6 over the years (so we are not counting the changes in UI), and even today the core (including many of those old filters) still feels basically only single-threaded.
Recently the pendulum has swung completely the other way, and one now needs a fast a GPU as possible to be able to use some of the new functions- my laptop from a few years ago (purchased to facilitate presentations of my processes) has now become completely unusable.
I worked in an Australian Government department as a graphic designer/video editor for 35 years. Loved the design software, but hated the idea that my employer was renting my software. I retired at the end of 2021. And bought Affinity Photo, Design and Publisher. Do I miss Photoshop? Yep. Photo is just different enough to regularly trip me up. Would I go back to CC? Never.
I brought Affinity software back in 2018 and the universal license recently even though I’m just a software engineer who never uses design or photo software solely because I want to support them, love want they do and what they stand against
After years of using Photoshop, Lightroom and Premiere I’m finally switching to Affinity Photo and Da Vinci Revolve….
I switched to affinity photo yesterday and i couldnt be happier. After effects still doesn't have a competitor though...
Finally someone who talks sense!!! I was furious 11 years ago when they stopped doing perpetual licenses, I thought I was going to explode with rage for pretty much every reason you've stated. And they keep lying to customers about how it's better for them in a condescending way which further infuriated me. All I can say is thank you for educating everyone 👍
Absolutely, and thank you for your comment!
Just like Disney Adobe have also been purchasing competitors like when they purchased the Substance corporation. It’s only a matter of time until they purchase other big design companies like the company behind Marvellous Designer.
I wouldn't be surprised if they attempt to purchase Canva (the owners of Affinity) next.
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Yeah while the biggest insult is if they try to purchase Blender or Autodesk however in those cases they would probably be stopped by the FTC like how Disney was blocked from purchasing Warner Brothers by the FTC.
I really hate them when they want you to rent, and even more so when other companies follow this trend.
Unfortunate isn’t it?
@@bull_technologyAgreed. And it spread like cancer. Video games? Switch online and Live Services. Cars? Heated seats and acceleration. Home surveillance? Just look at Louis Rossmann’s video about a $400 camera previously had available features before Miku decided to remotely take away features and paywalled them behind a subscription.
Be especially careful if the device is cloud-connected. “Cloud” is basically “someone’s else computer, not yours”. Very fitting that Adobe called their service that. On top of them being dictated by the company, if they’re hacked or a data breach happens, it is also dictated by hackers. Hope your stuff doesn’t get stolen.
If they pulled a move that cable and news companies do to trap customers in a subscription, it feels like getting kicked in the teeth.
And they did, and it is a crime to do that, literally. FTC passed a law some years ago when subscription became a trend, inflation became a trend, and so is the increase of canceling a subscription (“churning”).
Adobe; literarily a shit brick.
Adobe: Brick made of composite earth material mixed with water, dung and straw. The earth material contains normally sand, silt and clay. Straw is useful in binding the shit-brick together and to give it some strength.
Adobye, not Adobe.
BANN ADOBE ,i use affinity design since years!
if something is subscription based, i will pirate it.
I work in multimedia industry never bought a single Adobe product since mid 2000s I was pirating theirs even I was a kid and now after seeing what they become now it's so gratifying that I never once gave my money to them.
Talk about bloat, I had no idea... I only had the adobe suite for Premiere and Photoshop and decided to change to Davinci, when I uninstall all the adobe sh*t I had on my PC suddenly I had an extra 300gb of storage
Unreal isn't it?
Bruh, i resigned from adobe in 2022 due to toxic environment, so happy that i did. Sold my share as well last month.
Good to see this video. Funny enough, I am still using Photoshop CS3 and Premier Pro 5.5, although for video, I've not moved onto Davinci Resolve. One day I will finally kick the bucket for Photoshop and move onto something else too. For now, it does what I need it to do. I don't do any fancy photo editing anyway.
Haha great to see a fellow decades-old-CS3 user!
@@bull_technology LOL, I paid for it. I'm gonna keep using it as long as I can 🤣
Before I started earning I used to pirate everything. After I started earning decently I started buying games and softwares and stopped pirated ones because of the moral factor. Except for adobe products. It just doesn't feel wrong at all... Except that I stopped using even the pirated ones years ago. Why use a piece of shit unoptimized software when you can use other ones that just ✨works✨, unlike adobe
The reason i watch this is because i worry for the people that make 2d animated videogame assets using Animate (specificly indie games)