The Middle East Crisis and the Dangers of Dispensationalism, part 1 by Steve Gregg 10.21.2023
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- thenarrowpath.com | Steve addresses the war between Israel and Hamas and how the Christian community is viewing it and reacting to it in regards to biblical interpretation and prophecy.
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@@JamieElison you are a false accuser.
@@JamieElison dispensationalism is NOT the truth. If you learn something is not true, you leave it.
@@JamieElison I was referring to your ignorant 30 pieces of silver comment.
@jimbob1644 baloney. I proved dispensational lies as error over 40 years ago. You have no clue why its even wrong. Instead of choosing to have a conversation, all you can do is falsely accuse. I know who your father is.
@jimbob1644 read the historic view. Then read these to begin with... The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:16
Cont.
Well said. Ugh I'm so tired of all the pastors in my town pushing dispensationlism. My husband and I were pushed out of our bible study for refuting dispensationlism. We are alone in our small arizona town in regards to correct biblical exegesis. We don't have it all figured out, but we know truth. We listen to Chuck baldwin quite a bit. Glad we found your channel Thanks so much.
Oh boy. You and your husband are on the right track. There is history with this. And if your husband and you are ready. I can share some resources. Spiritual and or Historical.
Are you sacrificing turtle doves at the altar?
Check out ligioner RC Sproul
The churches have all been conquered by Freemasons and Feds which in turn works for Zionism. I wish I was joking.
I empathize. I know what it is like to be kicked out of small groups and church gatherings for holding on to the truths of what the Scriptures teach and for not accepting the lies which are permeating today's modern market-driven "churches."
As one who also-, can I say 'drank the coolaid' of dispensationalism in the early 1970s----it feels like a liberation to have taken off those spectacles and come to see biblical truth more clearly. May God continue to use you, Steve, to help the church get their thinking straight on this topic--and others too.
What passages in the Bible do you feel help disprove dispensationalism?
@@JaguerRhye
Galatians 3:29
Acts 10:34-35
Revelation 5:9
Matthew 3:9-10
Luke 3:8
How wonderful to find you!
I am with Calvary and was saved only a year ago. But I'm having issues with "We stand with Israel, no matter what!" That stance does not sit right with me. You are helping me reconcile it and still stay a Christian.
Thank you so much Steve. I have been telling my christian friends the same thing. They look at me like I'm crazy..when I 1st became a Christian I thought all Jews believed in Jesus till my unsave friend told me that the Jews are unbelievers. And ever since then i searched the bible to see what it says about them. And I came to the same reasoning as you. Not only is the world attacking our beliefs but so do a huge percentage of Christians. Thanks for all you do..
The Jews are no longer a chosen people since they crucified Christ in AD 31 and the stoning of Stephen in AD 34. They would not be saved as a nation but individually only if they accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.
The majority of Christendom believes what you believe, though. It’s the minority who believe in a distinction between Israel and the church.
@PD-iu9bn The dispensational system never existed in any mainline Church prior to 1800, though some tie the idea back to the Jesuit Robero around 1500.
@@Durnyful The distinction between Israel and the church, and the idea that God’s program of restoration and redemption is happening in stages, is CLEARLY taught in the Bible. It’s so hard to miss that you have to be taught a different hermeneutic in order to make the mistake.
@@PD-iu9bn Of course, that's why it is absent for the first 1500 years of church history!
The Israel that God loves according to the holy scriptures is the Israel of God that St Paul wrote about which is the church consisting of Jews and Gentiles.
Where does Paul ever clearly assert that the church is the Israel of God? Are you referring to Gal 6:16. In Gal 6:16 Paul is pronouncing a blessing on members of 2 different groups who follow the rule of salvation through faith alone. The first group is to those of the uncircumcision, the gentile christians who are those whom the epistle is largely directed to. But there is a second group who are the Israel of God. These are the circumcision, those who are *jewish* believers. This Israel of God is in contrast to those jewish teachers who were the Judaizers who were asserting one had to keep the law to be justified. There is nothing in this passage nor in any other NT passage that teaches that the church is the Israel of God or some kind of spiritual Israel.
Rom 9:6 is another “proof” text christians use but neither “Israel” in that passage refers to the church at all. Paul is speaking of ethnic Israel (those who were physical descendants of Jacob) and “spiritual” Israel who are simply believing jews, similar to the Israel of God mentioned in Gal 6:16. The context has nothing to do with the church at all.
The gentiles are grafted into Israel who has rejected God's promised Messiah Romans 9-11. The dividing wall of hostility has been destroyed and the two (Jews and gentiles) have been made one in Christ Ephesians 2:11-3:13. These scriptures make it clear that the Jews and gentiles are now one people in Christ. Those outside of Christ, whether Jew or gentile, are excluded from New Covenant which is the only Covenant in effect since Jesus death and resurrection.
@@JaguerRhye”those that bless Israel we be blessed” not exact I know to lazy to look it up. So so you approve of the ongoing genocide in Gaza (as openly admitted to by Amir tsarfati)? Slash do you support the attack on the USS liberty and 9/11?
Those that bless ABRAM is what it says, but somewhere in history people started saying I srael.
Through Abraham's seed(those descendants/all people who are putting faith on C hrist.
Gen.12: 1 -3 Now the LORD said to ABRAM “Go from your country and your kindred...And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you(Abram), and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
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Brother Steve is such a blessing. Would that all teachers of God's Word handled it so carefully and thoughtfully.
My gosh, what you said at the end about what makes a land holy and where God lives now brought tears to my eyes. Very convicting.
I watched the first half of this. I largely agree with you. Although I have never been a dispensationalist, in the past I have been taught some misconceptions about Israel. Nineteen years ago I began reading the Scriptures from beginning to end over and over, and sharing what the Lord was teaching me through them, and I had some unlearning to do and some new learning that took place, and this is when the Lord really began to awaken me to the truth about Israel (biblical truth) and he had me begin writing about it. But as soon as I began to write about it I got ground up, got called a heretic, and had some people saying I should be put to death for what I was teaching. And I can't really say I have had much at all in the way of support at all from anyone since then, but mostly rebuke, until just recently, and the support I do have now is very minimal. Oh, and I have been teaching the Scriptures for about 50 years, too. And I am female. Sue Love, almost 74 years of age.
Sounds like you love the scriptures. God bless you.❤
Just became aware of Steve Gregg recently. What a blessing! I love how graciously and fairly he addresses those with whom he disagrees. It's a lesson to us all.
@@jimbob1644 Nope. A regular guy who studies his Bible.
@@jimbob1644 This isn't the forum for rapid-fire questions. I was a pre-mil dispensationalist for over 20 years. I know all the objections (and even taught them for years). It's when I quit reading the Bible through the dispensational lens that it finally made sense. I hope one day you are able to do the same.
@@jimbob1644 I don't think you are entirely rational. At the very least, you are emotionally unstable. I don't think continuing this thread is useful.
I never heard of this guy and just came across this video here. Jimbob isn't here to see what he wrote. The Spirit Of Prophecy covers against dispensationalism while he's a preacher in real life too.
Steve i appreciate you standing for truth . God bless you
JESUS speaks of a spiritual heavenly Israel, beleivers in JESUS are the true Israel. Praise GOD follow JESUS .Amen namen.
The old covenant is not ‘Judaism’ as the latter is a mixture of talmudism ,torah and kabbalism. The old covenant was of God , Judaism is a Babylonian invention🙏
It's so weird watching you now. So many years listening to you on the radio and The Narrow Path and now I get to see you. Thank you so much for teaching in this.
These wonderful teachings are like a refreshing breath of fresh air. ✔️
Another part most are missing is that those people are Khazars, they're NOT Jews by bloodline. They're Ashkenazi from the line of Japheth.
FACTS
Thank you for this priceless gift of understanding. May God bless you Steve Gregg 🙏🏻🕊❤️🩹
Praise, honor and glory to our Almighty God, Jesus Christ!
@@jimbob1644 😂🤣
Are you a Catholic now?
Boy oh Boy. You hit it right on the nail. I never understood why Pastors like Hagee and Perry Stone send money to Israel a people who doesn’t want to here the name Jesus.
We still should support Israel
Who is arguing that modern day Israel is currently in covenant with God? They have rejected Messiah. The time of Jacob’s Trouble will be used to draw the nation of Israel to God.
It never worked in the past .
@@jeanalice4732 nuclear war could make anyone think twice about calling on God.
@@danielvargas9100
Depends on Who they think their God is...
@@jeanalice4732 Right now, they are blind.. still... but, a lot can change. The UN wants to unite the world by 2030. Time will tell.
@@jeanalice4732ponder on this… TECH is about to get crazy. WW3 looms, and the UN wants to reset the world
Thankyou Steve excellent teaching. A teaching I needed to hear. 🙏✝️🇨🇦
I am so thrilled to find this. I disavowed the pretrib rapture a number of years back when I could not find it in the scriptures. It upset some friends and family. Then the attack on October 7th got me thinking and I found myself not falling for the giving Israel a blank check...everything they do is correct. Was also horrified with hearing Christians saying all Palestinians should die. Did some research and I found I had been pretty much a Christian Zionist. To change from that is not easy because you feel guilt. Its been a difficult month shedding dispensational beliefs. I did not even realize until watching this that I was also a dispensationalist. Yikes ! Thank you Steve.
God bless you on your journey!
My name is Jason and I run this channel. I'm glad you've found Steve's teaching to be a blessing, as have I.
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This pastor is answer to so many prayers I believe, he's for sure answer to mine.... I asked God only yesterday to help me, frustrated with dispensation vs preterism agendas...and got great Biblical answer straight day after...God is so great ❤ and it's so enlightening and just - no nation is above God's law and justice - same as individual ppl , but according to this political groups - this nation is above law... killing in the name of ( for sure not God of the Bible) and justify it wickedly with twisting prophesy...
Thsnk you ! I have been waiting for fhis 😊
Steve is the best bible teacher HANDS DOWN.
Yes, he is very good. Have you heard of David Nikao Wilcoxson? He is very good too and I highly recommend his works on Historicism...
No, if he was, he would not have bailed out on a discussion we were having on his teaching. When he realized that I wasn't falling for his to attempt to trap me with sophomoric questions, he quit!
@@turkwelsch ... I know Steve and I don't believe you.
That is obvious, I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong!@@jasona102
Hahaha!
Extremely important topic!!
Thank you Steve
How is it that someone who taught pre-trib dispensationalism for years could conflate Gods judgment of the world with historic and/or present persecution of the Church? Persecution by the world is promised. Gods future/final judgment is reserved for the world.
Love SG. Astonished by this oversight.
Great message. I am searching to see if this theology is biblical. I am a old lady but I am seriously questioning Zionism and everything I have been taught. Finding the truth is painful and I hate giving up the rapture. I am committed to the truth and asking Jesus to show me…
Listen to Steve's 12 part series, "What Are We To Make of Israel?" www.thenarrowpath.com/topical_lectures.php#What_are_we_to_make_of_Israel
@SteveGreggVideos
You should "pin" this.
As one who also-, can I say 'drank the coolaid' of dispensationalism in the early 1970s----it feels like a liberation to have taken off those spectacles and come to see biblical truth more clearly. May God continue to use you, Steve, to help the church get their thinking straight on this topic--and others too.
Thanks Steve...Your fountain of Information...Be Well.
The initial assertion that Steve makes regarding the fact that the UN gave Israel the land in 1948, essentially stealing it from its rightful owners, the Palestinian Arabs, shows a fundamental willful ignorance of the history of the land of Israel, both secularly and biblically. Surely Steve knows that the land of Israel has been inhabited by the Jews for 4,000 years, long before Palestinians were a people. The very land called "Palestine" for much of the past 1900 years is named that very name because in AD 135, the Roman emperor Hadrian, renamed Israel, Palestine, as a direct slight to the Jews which he hated.
Steve says he's read the Bible through 50 times but here makes the case that the land of Israel rightfully belongs to the Arabs. This man has read Genesis 12 and 15, he's read the everlasting covenant that God made with Abraham and his descendants forever, he's read Paul's vehement denunciation of such false doctrine in Romans 11 but still willfully speaks against it, while proclaiming to be a devout teacher of God's Word. This is very troubling. It appears as if Steve has succumb to a spirit of deception that is rampant in the church today, but has been present in the world for thousands of years. This is a spirit of Satan that hates national Israel, that hates the Jews as God's chosen people. Satan still hates the Jews, do not be deceived, Satan isn't a supersessionalist, he knows God's still future plans for Israel as laid out in God's Word. The anti-Semitism in this world today being perpetrated by primarily Muslims and secularists, but in this case, to a lesser degree, by self-proclaimed Bible believers is simply tragic and is unconscionable for a professing follower of Christ. These people are deceived, my friends. Be on the lookout for these teachers of false doctrine.
The dominion of the whole earth has been given to Christ thus HE is the inheritor of Israel's mountains:
Isa 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
Allow me to add to that...
“All authority has been given to ME in Heaven and on Earth”
Matthew 28:18
I am so glad I found this man and this channel. God Bless
Great lesson, thank you Steve! ❤❤❤
“For I tell you, from now on, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of Adonai.’””
Mattityahu (Mat) 23:39 CJB
These words of Yeshua seems to be ignored by every, every teacher of eschatology/end times/the Lords return etc.
When the Jews cry out those very words “blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord” is spoken-look up “for your redemption draws nigh”♥️🙏.
1:12:40ish ““For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,” says Adonai: “I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, ‘Know Adonai’; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.””
Yirmeyahu (Jer) 31:32-33 CJB
“In saying first, “You neither willed nor were pleased with animal sacrifices, meal offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings,” things which are offered in accordance with the Torah; and then, “Look, I have come to do your will”; he takes away the first system in order to set up the second. It is in connection with this will that we have been separated for God and made holy, once and for all, through the offering of Yeshua the Messiah’s body.”
Messianic Jews (Heb) 10:8-10 CJB
Obviously, we are not, not, fully under the new covenant. Otherwise, you nor anybody else would be teaching “know the Lord for all would know him”.
““Every month on Rosh Chodesh (new moon)and every week on (Adonai’s) Shabbat, everyone living will come to worship in my presence,” says Adonai.”
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 66:23 CJB
In God’s kingdom to come all the Saints will again worship him on His sacred day. I also believe that is when we will be taught by his enlightened ones in all things, and finally the new covenant will be fulfilled by being transferred from our head to our heart.
I got saved on May 4, 1988. I went to a Calvary Chapel conference where all the pastors were saying midnight on Dec 31 would be very 'interesting '. I still have the cassettes (somewhere) from the conference. Oh well...
I was saved in 1980 Calvary Chapel Denver I know what you mean prophecy is very complex, but that doesn’t mean covenant theology has all the right answers. Keep the faith Jesus did raise from the dead check out 21st-century science on the shroud of Turin peace and love with you brother.
Yeah, Chuck Smith set a date as well 😢
@@toolegittoquit_001 date setters are false prophets, and I like Chuck Smith.
I concur . Was attending a small church in Simi Valley California in my early 20s . Some of us would drive to Calvary Chapel for the concerts and listen to Chuck Smith . Attended many other churches since then and have learned much . I think what you’re saying is important for all believers . God Bless !
17:57 - I heard similar a few weeks ago., a dear brother almost said this word for word "If there I have to go through the tribulation I'm not sure that the deal I signed up for". I was shocked, I got saved so God would deal with my sin and I am sure he did also but his sentiment was laughable.
Maybe your friend was a bit off however thinking this view of eschatology is laughable is really pretty pathetic. Covent/Replacement Theology believers sound hostile to a Christian wide different interpretation of the end times.
Completely apart from this man. . I have been teaching this on RUclips to anyone who would listen for years. . My eye opening experience is realizing that there are also others. . For several years. . I thought i was all alone. .
Reading the word for yourself. . Without anyone to guide you. .it leads to this understanding. . This is what it means to walk with God. And why so many fall away to the errors of dispensation that is taught by many. . It's a doctrine for a tickling ear. . And it's what's everywhere out there amongst the false prophets. But one who actually reads the scriptures for themselves. . Believing God. . Will come to the same conclusion this man has. I know. Because i came to it myself completely separate from him or anyone else.
That doesn’t mean you are right
@@user-bz7ok3yl7z No. What it means is that the word of God is right. And those who call another people apart from Christ "chosen". Only can believe that word if they have rejected God's.
How do you know you are interpreting it correctly
@user-bz7ok3yl7z Because that's what the word says. .
This is how Satan has infiltrated this generation of people. He has made something simple, turn into something complicated to them. Making them doubt the first thing and replacing it instead with the second thing.
An example i speak about all the time. When you tell a child something simple. Such as. "Jesus is God. God's people believe in Jesus" they would believe it. Thus if you tell them, "those people do not believe in Jesus, are they God's people?" What will their answer be? Emphatically no. .
But what we do. . Or. . Men who claim themselves to be wise made to be foolish. Is say. . "Jesus is God. God's people believe in Jesus" when we ask the "wise" they answer. . "Yes God's people believe in Jesus. So those people over there do not believe in Jesus, are they God's people too?" Yes say the wise. .
This generation tries to do algebra. . Without first learning how to add and subtract. It cannot see the forest because it fixated on one tree. It cannot see past the tip of their own nose. And it's been taught as a tradition. Passed down. For these 200 years. Making it very hard for those who are snared inside of the "wisdom" trap, to exit it.
This is why Jesus told the rich man to go and sell everything. . Then he would be able to follow. . This generation refuses to sell away the lie. . They become beholden to it. It's too hard to give up. So they just keep doubling down on it. It's the sin of pride. .
They treat the church as if it's a "side chick". God was married to the Jews. . He's going away for a little while to another woman. . But don't worry. . He'll be back. . They make God into an adulterer. Because they themselves are adulterers. God makes them show their hypocrisy so that all may see it. . All who love the truth.
I agree on what he said about wanting to escape trouble in the pre-trib rapture, but not all dispensationalists believe in a pre-trib rapture.
Thanks for uploading so quickly. I do hope all who listen to your message will always be asking the question, “what does the Bible say, not the newspaper nor necessarily even someone from the pulpit.
After all, isn’t that what we should always ask, and not simply on this topic but on most everything.
Yeah, but I didn't hear one single Bible verse or the gospel. Just repeating the doctrines of men, blah, blah, blah Nelson Darby, what a bunch of Evangelical indoctrination. Harpazo, Rapturo its in the latin and greek source manuscripts of the Holy Bible KJB 1611.
@@christopherpeterson6004 please enlighten us then. What part do you want to dispute first? Please don’t forget the Bible verses and context.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 KJB is the mystery rapture, a comfort, as revealed to Paul by Jesus Christ himself. Matthew 24 is written to Jews during the tribulation regarding the day of the LORD Amos 5:18 says nobody should long for the terrible day of the LORD. So which is it? A comfort or a terrible day of judgment?
@@christopherpeterson6004 of the rapture - “we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed…” 1 Cor 15:51-52.
If Mathew 24 is not written for us now, but instead is for some future time and people after the “rapture” then the Word if God is compromised because the trumpet of Corinthians 15 cannot be the last trumpet as Christ tells us that after the tribulation He will return and His angels will be sent out with a “loud trumpet call”.
Wake up brother, don’t let your biblical framework blind you to the truth.
@@simonbutcher8534 Thank you for responding with a specific scripture reference. The Word of God is never compromised: therefore we need to trust in the Holy Bible and if anything contradicts the Bible or if the Bible contradicts itself - we need to destroy that false copy of that bible. That being said - the Holy Bible KJB does not say it is a "trumpet" - instead it says precisely and in direct contradiction within the same sentence - "at the last trump", followed by the definition: "for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
This is the rapture, where we are caught UP! and will be forever with the Lord.
incorruptible
Here you are! I have listened to you on eschatology 35 years ago, then a decade ago. Not studied myself. And, here we are in this season of world shaking.. SURROUNDED by dispensationalists and futurists...and I am shaking my head thinking, I don't agree with this. Just found you, looking forward to catching up with your current insights
Welcome! You can hear Steve's daily radio program and hundreds of lectures at www.thenarrowpath.com in addition to the videos on this RUclips channel and The Narrow Path channel.
I’m a new Christan
Self taught holy spirt lead
Not indoctrinated in Churchianity
Seeing through all false theology denominational cults and man made doctrine
Fascinating how freaking bad it’s gone ! Not surprising though
Taking me 30 months of deconstructing religiosity & find narrow path
My heart has been heavy to see pastor after pastor blindly supporting isreals violence i cannot wrap my head around how anyone can read the gospels, and conclude war and violence is the way to fight evil....i heard a preacher in Chino hills say Jesus sanctioned war ! Preacher after preacher teaching the same ... you're the first preacher I've found that thinks rationally logically i was beginning to think i was the only one👍👍👍👍
Check out Chuck Baldwin in Montana. Truth teller.
Yes so very sad. The same excuses were made after 9 11 as well. They read to confirm their bias rather than to learn the truth. 😢
Schofield Bible
So I am sure you were equally concerned as a child when you read in your history books about the allies violence against Germany and about the USA violence against Alquaida? ISiS and others. Maybe you will also be concerned about God's violence to the earth when He comes to judge.
@@steveluibrand7174 Imagine being so dense as to compare the thought patterns of an adult to that of a child.
I get a real kick out of people who are against dispensationalism when the word dispensation is found in the scriptures. Rightly dividing the wod of God is important to know who it is taking to and who it applies to. Here is just one example David in the psalms prayed for the Lord to not take his Holy Spirit from him. Nobody that has been born again should ever pray that prayer because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. Now I am not saying not to ask for the fullness of the Holy Spirit but simply that we are his and he will never leave us or forsake us because when he purchaces us with his own blood that is when the Holy spirit takes residence in the believer. No one in the old testament was born again . This also isnt to say that everyone who believes in dispensationalism is always rightly dividing the word of truth.
The Kingdom of heaven is not the same as the Kingdom of God. One is physical and one is spiritual. The bible says the kingdom of God dwelleth in you. Its not Christs Physical Kingdom that dwells in us but his spiritual kingdom through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. We are not baptized unto Johns baptism. Our baptism is not to make our way strait because the kingdom ofheaven is at hand. You read in the book of Mathew if thy right han offend thee cut it off or if thy right eye offend thee pluck it out it is better to have one hand than two to be cast into hell fire..Now if you think this applies to you then tell me where are all the one eyed christians or one handed ones? dont spiritualise this brother he is talking about swift judgment when he sets up his earthly kingdom. Need more proof? If thou say unto thy brother Raca thou shall be in danger of the council.WHAT COUNCIL? DONT YOU DARE SPIRITUALISE THIS TO FIT YOUR OWN NARATIVE ! But if thou say to thy brother tho fool thou shall be in danger of hell fire. Swift judgement carried out by the Lord Jesus when he set up rulers and coucils to carry out his judgments when he sit on his throne in Jeruselem. This may apply to us in princpal but when it is that specific it dosnt apply to us doctrinally at all. It is talking about a different time period a different dispensastion.
These guys don't understand this because they don't HEAR GODS WORDS
Good comment.
Every Christian is a dispensationalist. They just don't know what to call it. As soon as Steve and others start building a temple and sacrificing lambs then we will see that they really dont believe in Dispensationalism. All Christians know that God has dealt with people in distinct ways through history. Pre fall disp 1. Adam to Christ disp 2. Christ 1 to 2nd coming disp 3. Eternity disp 4.
@@steveluibrand7174 What if the entirety of God's people (Pre-Sinai, the Temple periods, post-Chirst) could be summed up as all those (Jew and Gentile) who have believed His promises? Just an idea.
*_David in the psalms prayed for the Lord to not take his Holy Spirit from him. Nobody that has been born again should ever pray that prayer_*
David was born again.
Various concepts, ideas, constructs, forms, disciplines, and positions of "Dispensationalism" existed long before J. N. Darby! That is a fact. For starters, see "Ancient Dispensational Truth" by Morris and "Dispensationalism Before Darby" by Watson... there are a myriad of other reputable, dependable, proven resources evidencing this fact.
*Infant baptism* goes back a long way too, but like *Dispensationalism* it is not Biblical.
The term "dispensation" is literally in the Holy Bible.
@@christopherpeterson6004 that doesn't prove Dispensationalism; surely you know that.
@@TheCableStrainit’s not a good argument to make cheap swipes. The covenantal position in baptism is worth investigating. However I am fully behind this presentation. I am deeply concerned for those Israeli- Palestinian believers who have been dumped by western Christians who arrogantly take the dispensational position. We don’t know everything without error.only God is like this
@@revdrjack14 there was nothing "cheap" about my statement, no cheap shot was intended. I've read comments stating that the word "dispensation" is in the Bible, so, that's why I should take Dispensational teaching seriously. My point with this particular comment was simply: you may trace something back but that's not Biblical proof. Why you decided to attack me for my statement only you and God knows. I do hope and pray your day be blessed.
Excellent videos, I look forward to reasonable responses. My own inclination is Gregg is coreect on this matter.
@@JamieElison that Isreal has received a hardening but will later receive salvation. Is that what you're referring to?
@@JamieElison what about it?
why are there responses i cannot see. I can only see them in my notifications? But they're not here in the comments???
Hopefully Steve will release the transcript of this. It is brilliant.
Good word!! Much appreciated.
Iv just started listening to Steve I’m really enjoying him praise God for him.
You're on fire steve, great teaching, many thanks
If you have a question, Steve has mostly likely answered it on his radio show. www.matthew713.com/ has a topical and searchable index of all calls he's taken on his program, The Narrow Path, where he gives in depth answers.
Why would you say that dispensationalism don't believe that Jesus is the fulfillment of prophecy? That's simply not true.
This was such a great explanation/overview. Thank you for this video
Glad it was a blessing!
You are wrong. God gave promises to Israel. Read Revelation. Israel may not always win, but one day God will rule from Jerusalem. Period. The kingdom to come will be filled with Jewish tradition... read the Bible.
He's read it through 50 times. But you don't have to agree with him .
Who has authority now?
God or Jesus?
“All authority has been given to ME in Heaven and on Earth”
Matthew 28:18
What good scholar you are Steve legend
Nice to see u Steve. Usually listen to you on radio 🙏✝️🇨🇦
I have listened to you Steve for only about 15 minutes and I hear a lot of Quotes pertaining to I I I, The scriptures are understood by the power of the Holy Spirit and not from within ourselves, that is why there are so many who are mislead with false doctrine!
Hi Steve, I am a dispensationalist and I respect that you have different views, however you may want to refrain from charaterising dispensationalism by the worst elements i.e. the sensationalists, the date setters, the unstable "christians" that say - if Israel doesn't win this war then I'm done with Christianity.... because that is just setting up strawmen to easily knock down and make your position seem more rational/correct, but is not a very good Biblical argument. I have studied and listend to a great amount of other eschatological and theological views so im not in an echo chamber and yet I am still a dispensationalist, and yes I believe that the nation of Israel will endure forever as scripture says.
Jerimiah 31:31-40
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
39 And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the Lord; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.
This prophecy is only in part, fufilled - it is clear that there is yet a future, complete fulfillment
Romans 11:25-33
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
God is not done with Israel. How do you deal with these verses? One would have to explain away the obvious.....
Peace and grace to you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen 🙏
Steve made it very clear that he was not saying that all dispensationalists believe the ideas he was describing. His point was that dispensationalism can potentially cause people to think in those ways, which is obviously true because some have admitted as much.
Can you explain the 333 ...... 333 in your profile name.... Just curious. I can't help but to add it up seeing the irony in it.
Thank you 333Paradigm333! Very well said and backed up with scripture. It reads plain as day to me and I don't understand why other people can't see that.
@@lindaphilippi507amen sister. It's all there to see, plain as day, if we employ a consistent, literal hermeneutic. Stay in the word, and God speed
@@JamieElison A pretribulation rapture, for starters.
God bless you Sir!
There is a difference between tribulation of the saints from man and the great tribulation which is the wrath of God.
No it's not. It is the wrath of Satan. The wrath of God is His DAY of wrath. The DAY of the Lord. Not a week. That wrath is AGAINST those who hated and persecuted HIS true followers... Christians. Jews persecuted Christians.. as do Muslim and Hindu etc
@@jeanalice4732 Replacement Theology
It is crucial that we bless those whom God has blessed so that we in turn may be blessed, that is, Israel. All Israel will be saved. We need to be on the right side in order to survive as a nation.
So let me get this straight ... the people in Israel aren't really Israel ?
There is the nation Israel, the Israeli people and there is the which is also called Israel.
Jesus is the church and Believers have been grafted on while the people Israel were cut off by their rejection of Christ as fulfilled in 70AD.
I believe that the Israeli people (whoever they REALLY are) will return to Christ before Jesus actually returns
But that is just me
Great stuff, everybody !
Steve Gregg, great story - RUclips algorithm fed me your video.
My experience is parallel to yours Steve but I was in San Diego, in a Calvary Chapel.
They were SO prevalent & influential in So Cal then !
But after about 7 predicted Rapture + / or 2nd coming FAILS (by 1995 or so) the wife & I agreed strongly that some mistaken base theological assumptions were embedded in the preaching.
We asked God to correct the false teachings & He did !
At that point we didn't even know to call it "Dispensationalism", similar to like a Democrat today can be clueless it's really Marxism they believe lol.
Anyhow, God brought another ex Calvary Chapel Pastor Rich Agozino to KBRT Christian Talk Radio LA in similar fashion - Rich was embarrassed at the repeated FAILS that our Calvary Chapel churches would engage in, then ignore.
Pastor Rich began interviewing many Preterist + Postmillennial Scholars, Pastors & Teachers on talk radio Weekday afternoons and we ALL got SCHOOLED.
Long story short, we returned to the "Puritain Hope" that the great Charles Spurgeon preached from & that the Reformational Scholars like Luther, Calvin and both English Pilgrims & Puritans taught, that the Kingdom is in it's early stages now, being Administered by God the Father, thru Jesus Christ the KING 👑 of kings LORD of lords, via the Holy Spirit, to both convert individuals to Him & entire Nations to obey the Gospel.
Psalm 2, 22, 72, 110 & 149 lay it out poetically & beautifully.
Isaiah 9:7 & 1 Corinthians 15 give the overall timeline.
There are lots of great teachers along these lines.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin (now of Liberty Fellowship in Kila Montana) is also a great teacher & resource for study.
I'd reference the late & great Godly Dr RC Sproul as one fabulous teacher too
His 13 part series, free on RUclips, "The Last Days According to Jesus" is the penultimate exegesis that we NEVER heard at Calvary Chapel, but should have:
ruclips.net/p/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus&si=9liQiuyKlnnCKJTr
HALLELUJAH, now we can.
Look it up you won't regret it.
Also Dr Ken Gentry's amazing presentation "The Beast of Revelation Identified" is the best 2.5 hour introduction to a partial Preterist, Postmillennial view point, in one modest chunk:
ruclips.net/video/Sy7cEW4MJac/видео.htmlsi=KfTDC4PsTRrYrN2n
I have about 6' of book shelf that Dr Gentry manages to put into that program.
Truth is, RUclips has made all these teaching resources available more readily, but buying the books that have the deep research is also a great idea.
I came out of the crazy world Dispensationalism . Unfortunately, it still sells books and gets tonnes of views on the internet. I would be glad to see its demise.
WHAT AN AMAZING TEACHING !!!
Best l hve heard in a long time !!
I hve never believed in this dispensational false doctrine !!
I always hve believed the way the Bible reads ..none of that pretrib rapture stuff etc.
Regarding the prophetic teaching concerning lsrael l had to unlearn and relearn concerning new covenant teaching and old covenant teaching. However, it all makes sense now..
i remember the 67 war and we (many of us) thought it was a miracle and we were on the verge of israel coming to Christ. by the time of late great planet earth, i was beginning to have 2nd thoughts and by 1975 had left the belief of dipyism
You can call into Steve's radio program daily to ask bible-related questions. www.thenarrowpath.com/ for more info.
FIRST I am grateful to you for the truth Father Yahweh has granted unto you. My testimony is a replica of yours. Keep up the work of spreading THE truth. With this said I have a few convictions ie resolves, in which to share with you . ONE: “Israel” did NOT become a “nation” in 1948 but rather a state at and by the Zionists ie those who say they are Jews and are NOT. It is NOT man that brings YAHS people into the land promised by HIM but by Yah Himself (Jer. 16, 23, and 32:37) . I am resolved that these “Jews” that He will gather from the 4corners of this flat but circular earth of which I am and believe you are as well , WILL be those of the New Jerusalem ie the Kingdom of Yah. As you know, he/she is not a Jew who is one outwardly but IS one inwardly. TWO: Hamas , according to Ron Paul when speaking before congress, both informed and warned them that Hamas was a creation of the hidden inside puppet masters to aid them in eliminating Palestine for their takeover of that land. Not only did they create Hamas they strongly funded it until it has come back like a serpent to bite them in the back side. In fact, the weapons their using highly resemble those we sent to Ukraine , hum!!! Sounds to me like another “inside job” just as several Rabbi’s with inside info are claiming. What they mean is Israeli Governing bodies ALLOWED it to happen. Lotta “inside jobs” these days ,lol but not funny. THIRD: Yahweh has given all authority to His Son to execute judgment on the evil doers and He WILL do this by removing the TARES FIRST and leaving the wheat to remain. He WILL eradicate the “goats” FIRST and leave the sheep to rule and reign with Him (Yeshua) in His NEW JERUSALEM. There is ONLY one Israel and they are those bought by the blood of the Lamb, who’s sin debt is atoned for. HalleluYAH. Thanks for being an instrument in Yahs hands to fortify my convictions and resolves.
PS, two people with two differing beliefs as to what is truth , one can be right and the other wrong and both can be wrong BUT both can NOT be right. There is ONLY ONE absolute truth and it IS the quest of every believer to effectually fervently ask Father for it.
Right on! I got through the entire video twice! I agree! I do not however agree on the preterism. Thanks !
AMEN! SO glad you studied and found the truth to give others, and me.
Wow, someone finally teaching what the Bible really says. Dispensationalism is the worst teaching that came to Christians. When politicians use their office to fulfill prophecy, and say God did it will be like Abraham and Hagar.
Another more recent work that goes into the early church roots of dispensational thought, which puts the final nail in the coffin of the argument that Darby invented dispensationalism is called "Discovering Dispensationalism" by Cory Marsh and James Fazio. These ideas are not recent. They are as old as the Church. Since they are not soteriological, the fact they re-emerged after centuries should not be a terrible shock to anyone. God has a purpose for delaying clarity on the subject until the times call for it. It is possible that dispensationalism had a hand in affecting support for Israel's nationhood over 100 years later because the idea of a revival of national Israel got a huge boost in the 19th century. It is not man that made that happen. It was GOD.
What saith the Scriptures?
@@JordanWallace-nb4id Read those books and find out.
@@stevesybesma I'll say it again, WHAT SAITH THE SCRIPTURES?
@@JordanWallace-nb4id Let yourself be convinced in your own mind. I'm under no obligation to convince you. Open your mind and you'll see God acted accordingly as He revealed His plan through history. I cannot quote the entire Bible here. Look for the periods of time (dispensations) the Bible reveals. Do the work yourself. The Bible doesn't tell you explicitly. It reveals it if you pray for wisdom. Dispensationalism is very supportable as God gives you wisdom to see it. Stay away from hyper-dispensationalism.
@@stevesybesma 2 Peter 1:19
King James Version
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
As a Catholic, I thank you for your presentation, I’ve never understood the obsession so many evangelicals have with Zionism.
I truly agree with brother... i recall the Gospel of Matthew chp 15 v 14.
This guy's lies have already convinced me that this guy is under a spirit of deception.
Israel didn't start any wars with the Arabs. It has repeatedly been the reverse. Saying that the land that the Arabs conquered from the Jews and Christians is rightfully theirs instead of belonging to the Israelites God promised it to, is just one step before saying that the Spanish have to give their country back to the Moores because the Moorish Muslims had held it for some time. He is actually giving an apologetic for constant unceasing Islamisation to fulfill the vision of Muhammad as written in Al Tabari volume 6 page 95. Muhammad was to be supreme over the quraysh tribe, and the quraysh were to be supreme over all the Arabs and the Arabs were to have supremacy over all the other peoples of the earth.
In fact, I find him to be more guilty of isogesis than those he tries to criticise.
The Irgun:
The King David Hotel was the site of the British military command and the British Criminal Investigation Division (CID). The Irgun chose it as a target after British troops invaded the Jewish Agency on June 29, 1946 (Black Sabbath), and confiscated large quantities of documents. At about the same time, more than 2,500 Jews from all over Palestine were placed under arrest. The information about Jewish Agency operations, including intelligence activities in Arab countries, was taken to the King David Hotel.
A week later, news of a massacre of 40 Jews in a pogrom in Kielce, Poland, reminded the Jews of Palestine how Britain's restrictive immigration policy had condemned thousands to death.
Irgun leader Menachem Begin stressed his desire to avoid civilian casualties and said three telephone calls were placed, one to the hotel, another to the French Consulate, and a third to the Palestine Post, warning that explosives in the King David Hotel would soon be detonated.
On July 22, 1946, the calls were made. Adina Hai-Nisan said she called the hotel switchboard 30 minutes before the explosion. That call was apparently received and ignored. Begin quotes one British official who supposedly refused to evacuate the building, saying: We don't take orders from the Jews.1 The Irgun also detonated a bomb nearby, which broke windows, but did not cause any injuries and may have been intended to cause panic and encourage evacuation of the building. As a result, when the bombs exploded, the casualty toll was high: a total of 91 killed and 45 injured. Among the casualties were 15 Jews. Few people in the hotel proper were injured by the blast.
The Irgun carried out a diversion bombing to encourage evacuation of the hotel before the main blast.
This is great 👏👏👏
1:14:21 this sounds like an unconditional promise
35Thus says the LORD,
who gives the sun for light by day
and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night,
who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar-
the LORD of hosts is his name:
36“If this fixed order departs
from before me, declares the LORD,
then shall the offspring of Israel cease
from being a nation before me forever.” Jeremiah 31:35-36
That is about the spiritual offspring of Abraham and not the people in the flesh. See Gal 3:26; Romans 9:7-8
@@KeepingWatch95 forever as it pertains to mortals does not mean everlasting. It is only for as long as it last. In Daniel 9, God have Israel a probationary time of 490 years which ended in AD34 when the gospel was finally rejected and the gospel went to the gentiles. Since then their chosen nation status expired.
@@KeepingWatch95 That already happened after the return from the captivity in Babylon. You can read about it in the book of Jeremiah.
@@KeepingWatch95 maybe you know more than what God told us in the Bible.
@@KeepingWatch95 Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones to death those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
38 Look! Your house is left desolate!
39 I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘How blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
I don't care about dispensationalism or other -isms and am not very interested in them. I never go to any theological school. I just read the Bible and listen to good preachers. I found Derek Prince's teachings about Israel to be very good. He had first-hand experience about Israel.. he was in Israel when it was about to have its independence, he was a British who adopted Jewish children as well. He also pointed out a passage in the Scripture that shows that Israel will be regathered to their land IN UNBELIEF and only after that God would make them believe, which I am certain is correct, and therefore makes you incorrect here, Sir. Read Ezekiel 36:16-28, with the specific steps of restoration from 24-28:
24 *I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land.*
25 *I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you.*
26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.
28 You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be my people, and I will be your God.
So there, this is like a blueprint from God from around 2400 years ago of what happened in 1948. One day, eventually Israel would accept the New Covenant brought by their Messiah, Lord Jesus Christ.
Also, I think you need to learn the correct history of Israel's return. They, the Jews, BOUGHT quite a lot of the land, and so they returned 'legally'. It was not like they were given land that was 'snatched' from the local Arab population! Initially the state was established on this 'legitimately Jewish land' but then the Arabs rejected their presence there, and invaded them, while asking local Arabs to leave (btw, there were also already Jewish local population, and so Palestinians at that time actually refers to both Jews and Arabs. Golda Meier hold a 'Palestinian passport' from 1921-1948), because they wanted to drive the Jews out to the sea. They failed, and so the displaced local Arabs could not return to their property. HOWEVER, at around the same time, and even before, even more Jews in the surrounding Arab states were DRIVEN OUT by the Arab governments/peoples (around 900,000 of them), and most of them (650K) went to Israel. So, practically, if we talk about JUSTICE, there was already justice in POPULATION EXCHANGE. Palestinian Arabs went out of Israel and became refugees in Arab states (about 700K), but Jews from the Arab states also left their property and became refugees in Israel. The only difference being that while the Jewish refugees were absorbed into Israel community as citizens, the Palestinian Arab refugees' status was preserved!! Those Arab states would not absorb those Arabs who actually are not different from their own population, into their own community!! Therefore, the existence of a Jewish state there is actually LEGITIMATE even without Biblical support.
Then, you also need to learn about Islam. What is Islam and if it is mentioned in the Bible, which it is. The book of Revelation told of a beast who get its power and throne and authority from Satan.. worshipped by all the eretz.. also a second beast arising out of the eretz.. do you know that khalif Abd al Malik was proclaimed caliph in Jerusalem? There is a spiritual battle between the God of Israel and Satan who wants to continue its occupation of the land of God.. but God already foretold that its time will be only 42 months or 1260 days (years), which are the same thing 42 months = 1260 days (1 day = 1 year, means 1260 years):
Re 11:2 but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for *forty-two months.*
Re 13:5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for *forty-two months.*
Re 12:6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for *1,260 days.*
If we go back 1260 years from 1948, we get to 688 AD, the middle year of the construction of the Dome of the Rock, the symbol of Islamic occupation of the Temple Mount, by who? Abd' al Malik! The caliph representing the beast arising out of the earth (eretz). Therefore, the return of Israel and its independence in 1948 is definitely a fulfillment of these prophecies.
You cannot take the reading of the Scripture out of the context of the world history, including today, including Islam.. when you read Gog war in Ezekiel 38, you will also see that those nations attacking Israel that is already regathered from many nations are also Islamic nations today! The only thing that unite those nations is Islam.. not nationality. Not all of them are Arabic, but all of them are Muslim countries.
I appreciate your presentation. and I can relate, I was raised a modern Baptist then in CC costa mesa for years and never new of any alternatives to the dispensational eschatology and Arminian soteriology, So thankful to see things better now.. Who do believe is being spoken of as the "he" in Dan 9:27? This difference between what the old theologians thought and post Darby theologians is what caught my attention and started my investigation. Blessings
Watch Steve's verse by verse teaching on Daniel 9:24-27 m.ruclips.net/video/QbTmTEVk8WE/видео.html
Steve is what all denominational pastors should be when preaching - treating the "sheep" like adults who can think for themselves. You will not find many pastors (if any) in a denominational setting. Denominations by their very nature will not allow the level of teaching you will find with people like Steve Gregg. They are part of a machine and restricted. In private their views are probably a bit better, but they will hold that back to hold onto their position. All that said, the one "flaw" I find with Steve Gregg is he could be more concise.
I am not a dispensationionalist. I don’t think
But I do agree
The current nation of Israel is THE key to all of the end times
Exactly 💯
Wow, I’m 65 and this is the first I’ve ever heard this teaching. Now, I’m real confused😢
look at Five Dispensations by Richard Jordan.
This man is biblically correct on many things. Won’t be led astray here!!
Steve Gregg has free verse-by-verse teaching throughout the bible at www.thenarrowpath.com/, as well as many topical teachings.
Many of those teachings are on youtube, but his website has nearly all his teachings.
I'm open on the eschatology question. However I'm 50 and have been surrounded by dispensationalists all my life and have never heard even one of them say the things you are saying. Not saying it never happens but it has to be pretty rare.
Actually, it was the common view of the church throughout history until the last 100-200 years, beginning with John Nelson Darby creating the dispensational, followed by the Scofield Reference Bible and Dallas theological popularizing the idea. This view is actually still held the majority of Presbyterian, Reformed, Lutheran churches, and many others outside the west. I (Jason, the channel owner; not Steve Gregg) never heard anything other than premillennial ideas until I was. But there were so many gaps, zigzagging around the Bible for a verse here, and a verse there. There were contradictions, such as "we take prophecy literally, yet soldiers on horses locusts were tanks and fighter jets and Jesus didn't actually come soon. So I knew it wasn't right. So I was intrigued when I heard about the partial preterist/ amillennial view, which just fit with everything in the bible and with history, with no complicated charts and magical 2000 year gaps.
@@JamieElison Steve's verse-by-verse teaching on Daniel 8 is here: ruclips.net/video/mGbq5jExwg4/видео.htmlsi=9EbDZ-fAlU-3uokX
@@JamieElison What response? I have not stopped anything from being posted. Steve is open to all views being discussed and letting people think for themselves. That's what he doesn't with his radio show. That's why in his book, Revelation: Four Views, he gives the 4 major views throughout history and doesn't tell you which view he takes. Same with his book on the 3 views of hell. In his series on Calvinism, he gives all the arguments from both sides before showing why Calvinism is wrong. So you are making false accusations without knowing what you are talking about.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JamieElison It's obviously a bunch of made up lies, and bad ones at that - because they don't have a clue how RUclips works. If they did, they wouldn't be saying those things. So, of course, those "comments" should be scoffed at.
Jesus is Israel and those who follow Jesus Christ.
WHAT IS REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY? BY STEVE GREGG - ruclips.net/video/96JcDkZ4bvI/видео.htmlsi=ZmeZWskhO-VpylPE
Looking for part 2, ant seem to find it. But part 1 is right on, so grateful for r Gregg’s courage to teach the truth
ruclips.net/video/FXrUOtpRWB8/видео.htmlsi=SOGVgvjU2g8SbWWi
Was there a concept of the 7 year tribulation period in the early church, or did that concept only arise with dispensationalism and their (mis)interpretaion of Dan 9:27?
That was a development of dispensationalism.
Don't forget that the Bible says that men have to keep there hair short.
This is said in the new testament
This is not ment to take away from what Gregg is saying, but rather a friendly reminder.
The Bible warns against being arrogant against God's WAYS and HIS promises towards HIS chosen remnant of Israel
Anyone who is in Christ is part of his chosen remnant.
@@SteveGreggVideos Yes, Iam in Christ and complete in HIM
However if you read Ezekiel and many OT books and Romans 9 10 and 11 --- you WILL learn about God's plans for the future chosen remnant of Israel. It's arrogant to deny HIS promises because HIS gifts and callings are without repentance
@@Over-for-now Steve has read and taught verse-by-verse through each of those books dozens of times. You may listen for free at www.thenarrowpath.com/verse_by_verse.php.
I also have his Romans teaching on my channel.
@@SteveGreggVideos he doesn't know the truth because he doesn't rightly divide scripture . I have spoken to him years ago
@@Over-for-now Oh, you're into that lie.
Excellent talk; thank you!
marcus
That "grid and filter " statement is So True.
One of Steve’s most powerful teachings
There is nothing powerful about replacement theology
@@bradleymays2316 If you're trying to make unsaved Jews in the modern State of Israel "God's people" you're conducting the "Replacement Theology".
Who is really using “replacement theology”?
“NO MAN comes to the Father BUT BY ME” Matt 14:7
Sorry friend, but you can’t get around that one unless you deny Christ
i do not base my salvation on pre-mid=post trib...just as i do not base it on whether Christ was born on 25 December or whether Saturday or Sunday is the Sabbat; i base it on this Witness inside me; the Holy Spirit, Who gives me Blessed assurance that i am a child of God LIKEWISE i do not judge the salvation of others on things like that
We are saved by believing in the Name of Jesus. That is all the proof we need.
Dispensational patterns in human history were noticed in the Bible by early church fathers. It's a visible pattern, not an interpretation. The spiritually blind need explicit road signs. When storm clouds come, do you need a sign flashing in the sky that tells you it's going to rain or can you figure that out? The Bible is a bit like that. There is no announcement that will satisfy you that tells you one dispensation/age/period ends, and another begins. Wisdom reveals dispensationalism is true, hence why early church fathers noticed it. It's a total lie to say it was 'invented' by Darby. Darby simply coalesced what was already recognized many centuries ago. It's there if you're willing to remove the blinders. This is not a salvation issue, either, but it's an issue that prevents you from fully appreciating God's plan if you refuse to see it. The Bible contains patterns that must be noticed. There are no explicit notifications like you want to see.
So you're biblical proof for these dispensations is 1. They're not mentioned in the Bible. 2. You're blind if you don't see them.
Got it.
Really well spoken, @steveybesma
@@Stoneington Thank you
Dispensationalism is only dangerous to people who prefer a non-literal interpretation of the Bible.
Darby did not “invent dispensationalism”, and anyone who begins a refutation of it with that claim is a poor resource.
Appreciate this video.
I have only recently been awakened to the fact that dispensational doctrine is not what I see the Bible saying. I think I wanted it to be true and was only hearing that preached in every church, podcast or online verse teachings. I hate all the labels given (amil, postmil, premil, all the variations of rapture, Calvinist, blah blah blah), but what I now see plain as day is AD 70 was fulfilled prophecy ending the Old Covenant with Israel. Jesus CLEARLY stated what was about to happen in the Olivet Discourse. Why is this glossed over in every single church I’ve researched ??
Great teaching!!! Where can I found Part 2 of this lecture ?
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No one believes pre trib because they are afraid of the tribulation. There are as much scriptural evidence as there is for what you are interpreting.
Steve enjoys citing fringe examples of professing dispensationalists who state unbelief but is in no way aligning with the whole of those who believe in dispensationalism.
TRUTH.
Would it be fair to say the US funds to Israeli expansionism in the West Bank are coming from the despensationlist camp? Is CUFI made up of mostly (and possibly unwittingly) desposationlists?
Pretty sure we don't indicate our Eschatology when we pay our taxes 😮