STEVE'S NOTES : www.matthew713.com/notes/files/The_Middle_East_Crisis_and_the_Dangers_of_Dispensationalism_2023.pdf Link to Steve's response to Michael L. Brown mentioned at 52:10 www.matthew713.com/notes/files/Israel_a_response_to_Dr_Michael_Brown-v3.pdf
The 7% of Christians in Gaze is a bit high. there are approx 0.004% with a population of 2.5million. In the West Bank, it is about 50,000 which is approx 1.6 % with a population of 3.2 million. in Isreal there about 100,000 which is 1.9% with a population of 9.4 million. If you add the population of all three communities you have 15.1 million with 3.5/6% Christian. What is a Christian is another debate in the light of the apostle's teaching.
WOW! finally someone has explained this whole mess ! This could be a game changer for good Christians badly thought, and for the whole world in fact. Thank you brother Steve!!
I have been receiving so many questions from folks lately - its so helpful to have Steve Gregg videos to refer people to if I don't have the bandwidth to answer. Brilliant, as always.
Jews will turn to Jesus during the Tribulation; Matthew 23-39 KJV 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. until, a big word. Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
@@TheOverlapLifewithTimBarber “until” is what you are missing. Israel is still being trampled on by the Gentiles. Israel (who tried 6 times to trade land for peace) is indeed being trampled on by Gentiles. I’ve been there and it’s obvious. Out of the kindness of Israel, mosques are everywhere in the land. You will see them and hear them as you walk around. Try building a synagogue in an Arab country. Good luck with that. Or in many Muslim countries, a brand new church for that matter. Furthermore, Moshe Dayan, in hopes of having peace, gave away control of the Temple Mount to Jordan. Even though he didn’t have the authority to do that. That “until” has not happened either. The tribulation is not like any of the wars or rumors of wars of the past. Those were birth pains. Birth pains come harder and faster. I’ve personally been there observing and hearing that also. What is happening right now - are more severe and faster birth pains. V33 “so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.” - so “who is the fig tree”?…we have to ask from V32. Israel (in unbelief today) is completely done offering land for peace. Why? Because the rockets and terror keep coming and will continue to come. They know that and we know that. Coming from all sides. For Israel, this is a time for war. “For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:” Matthew 24:28-29 KJV So what is the carcass? The physical and spiritual destruction that Satan caused (and God allowed) during the time of the the tribulation (using the anti-Christ and the false prophet). So… immediately after the tribulation (or “distress” - NIV). A great distress, unequaled “for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” Matthew 24:21 KJV I do not know the times or season, or the day or the hour - so please don’t ask. I will tell you, that as you occasionally look up while you are making Him known, to look up. Because He is coming to meet us in the air. Our redemption (full, in heaven) is drawing close! The dispensation that Israel is in, is obvious now. It is undeniable. They will not trade peace for land anymore. The tribulation spoken clearly about in the Bible above has not started ….yet! But land for peace? That ship has sailed.
@@TheOverlapLifewithTimBarber Hosea 5:15 “I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.”
@@JamieElison Hi Jamie, I’m so glade that you are here. Since you know prophecy then I’m sure you wouldn’t keep us in the dark about what’s coming soon. Please give us the insight to the timeline of events I would like to track it on a chart you know like we do with hurricanes. Now I would like the corresponding Bible verses with the events so I don’t miss anything. Approximate dates are fine since we can’t know the day or hour. Oh! and who is the beast?
These are two excellent videos from a man who's clearly done much deep study of scripture. I myself was really torn on this issue of Israel in the last days, so much so that I felt to pray for clarification as to which viewpoint really reflected God's purposes. Then these videos popped up on my feed (it had been a long time since I'd seen any from Steve Gregg). Maybe giving me the very answer to prayer I was seeking. The one on Replacement Theology was also excellent. These teachings are very good expository.
Praise God! Steve has a ton verse-by-verse teaching, topical studies, and a daily Bible Q&A and program called The Narrow Path on this channel and at www.thenarrowpath.com that may further benefit you.
@@SteveGreggVideos I read your transcript of Acts 15 and I wonder if you aren't so involved in the details of the characters that you fail to pick up on a truth that is being revealed. James is saying 14 Simon has declared how God at the "first" visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written: 16 ‘After this ( after God takes from the gentiles a people for His name) I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; It isn't a structure or tent that has fallen down. It is a people, The Jews. Would this not qualify as dispensationism?
@@jash7401 Maybe SteveGreggVideos might respond to your question but here's my take based on my own study and understanding of Scripture. Disclaimer: My views don't necessarily represent Steve Gregg's. There are Old Testament passages that connect Gentiles with the 10 tribes of Israel that fell away. One such passage is in Hosea 1: 9 - 11. Israel fell and was scattered into the nations and thus was denounced as 'Not My People', which means their descendants became Gentiles through assimilation with the Gentile nations. But we read that God will gather those who are 'Not My People' and join them with Judah under one Head (we know from the NT that the head is Christ). 9 And the Lord said, “Call his name Not My People, for you are not my people, and I am not your God.” 10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And in the place where it was said to them, “You are not my people,” it shall be said to them, “Children of the living God.” 11 And the children of Judah and the children of Israel shall be gathered together, and they shall appoint for themselves one head. - Hosea 1: 9 - 11 (ESV) Likewise, if you read the passage in Acts 15 plainly for what it says, you'll see that James understood the quote from Amos 9:11,12 about the Tabernacle of David, which had fallen down that God was rebuilding, as a direct reference to the Gentile people being restored, who are called by God. 13 After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. 14 Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 “‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, 17 that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.’ - Acts 15: 13 - 17 (ESV) In conclusion, it was always a faithful remnant of Israel, Judah, and even proselytes who were considered God's covenant people based on the law of Moses. The OT does reveal that the New Covenant would comprise a believing remnant among the Jews (until the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple) and those from the Gentile races from then on who were to be restored under Christ's blood. To believe in Christ means to place one's salvific confidence in Him alone and not in combination with one's status or racial pedigree. The Jews that were scattered after 70 AD were also assimilated into the nations as a result so that even they count as Gentiles in God's eyes today. No more ethnic Jews! Hence the times of the Gentiles were foretold as imminent. This way their Gentile offsprings who believe in Christ may be restored as 'Children of the Living God'.
I really agree! Such great teaching. The dispensational teaching never sat right with me. But I understand Steve’s logical, balanced, biblical teaching! 🔥🔥🔥
I've prayed and studied for years and everything you've said is what I have believed to be true. I don't get any support on what I believe so it was refreshing to of found this channel a couple days ago. I feel I finally have a community now. I know there was a pastor leading his church along these beliefs in Austrlia and I'd it's on RUclips but not here too much unless you look at some of the reformed churches.
That's wonderful! If you're on Facebook, search for Steve Gregg - The Narrow Path. Steve has verse by verse teaching throughout the Bible, as well as topical teachings & a daily radio program at thenarrowpath.com. Notes on many of his teachings searchable Q&A of calls from his radio show are at matthew713.com.
If your like me I bet you have listened to 1000s of so called preachers of the word, only to find they ain't seeing what I see. You start to question yourself and feel very alone with our way of seeing the WORD. So much confusion out there. I too have only just found a few teachers who are speaking my thoughts. There is a guy in the UK where I am called Christopher J Sparks who has spent 25 years correcting all the mistranslations in our Bibles. He has a channel called " The Keys of The Kingdom Holy Bible " I just bought his Bible and hope it's easier to read. It's like all of my notes and crossing out in my KJV Bible in one.
I earnestly pray that the nation of Israel will turn to Christ, but if this conflict goes south for them, I pray for the dispensationalists who will undoubtedly be shaken in their faith.
@turkwelsch Hi! I’ve seen you commenting this in other videos. I’ll be honest, I don’t know what you mean. What could I look up to learn more about mid-Acts dispensationalism? Any books, websites, or teachers you could recommend? If I’m going to disagree, I need to know what I’m disagreeing with.
@@richardright752 Did you really get the point of this whole teaching? I'd recommend reading the words of Jesus (red letter) in the book of John. After that, what he says in the rest of the gospels. Better than MANY teachers.
@@richardright752Not quite accurate, 1 John 2:22-23 says Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. - so this clearly excludes those who believe in Judaism and Islam, both of whom claim they worship the same God as Abraham, Isaac an Jacob.
Pray the light of Christ shine within our hearts. Our Lord is gentle and humble heart. His heart must be grieving this violence. May God sanctify our hearts that we may love as He loves. Thank you as always for your vigilance in teaching 🙏🏻🪔
Wow this is exactly how i am seeing this. And all of this time i thought that i was in the Twilight zone because nobody else sees what I'm seeing. I totally believe that it is spiritual Israel that are being called from the nations and we are consisting of both Jewish and Gentile made into one body of believers.
It is very possible that the previous commenter is speaking as Paul ,example: Romans 9:6 . The Spiritual Israel would be all that have the living faith that Abraham had ,thus ,this characteristic makes them descendents of Abraham no matter their ethnicity .
@@Skinnymoose You couldn't be any more wrong. "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:7. "For they are not all Israel which are of Israel; neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children… but the children of promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9:6-8. "And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise" Galatians 3:29. "For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." Philippians 3:3, Spiritual and not physical
@rhondaweber5638 Actually, the promises were made to the physical jews (all of Israel), but only the spiritual among the physical jews receive the promises. For example, Esau was just as much a child of Issac as Jacob, yet Jacob received the promise, and Esau didn't. Joseph is both a physical and spiritual Jew but Judas isn't. The church isn't spiritual Israel. The church has different promises. If you are spiritual Israel, why aren't you over in Israel getting the land that God promised you?
Steve, I've been unpacking this for quite awhile (years). I started with, who/what is the synagogue of satan. Thank you for your excellent content 🙏 Super helpful!
Jews will turn to Jesus during the Tribulation; Matthew 23-39 KJV 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. until, a big word. Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
@jimbob1644 that's your opinion. Thankfully, the Bible interprets itself. The new covenant fulfilled the old. Not the other way around. Daniel was fulfilled in the first century. Jesus brought the new covenant, in His shed blood. Removed the old that is now obsolete because it is finished! ( the old law and prophets). You've been taught by false teachers and their false theology that seeks to destroy His work on the cross. Just like Paul explained.
Jesus said, as in the MESSIAH, the One we Christian’s believe in, He said , “ I AM the way the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the Father but THRU ME” . No one would include, Jews , who refuse to believe in Jesus as Messiah. This is not that difficult to understand. Further evidence are found in: Gal. 3:28, Eph. 2:14, 1 Cor 3:16,17, Heb. 8:7-13, and Heb 9:11,12, to highlight but a few. Praise be to God for His deliverance thru our Savior LORD Jesus, who is the New Covenant, the New temple, the True Israel, into which we all press in. Thank you Mr.Gregg for your clear and methodical teaching of Gods Word, we pray for you and your ministry daily.
"ALL Israel" are all saints in Christ, Jews and non-Jews. "The Israel of GOD". The nation changed, the temple changed, the priesthood changed, the law changed, the City of God changed.
"Blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fulness of the nations may be come in." Romans 11 Christ is Israel, we are Israel. All believers past and future are the Israel of God! Christ is the tree, we are the branches. Christ is the true vine, we are the branches. Christ is the husband , we are the bride. Christ is the head, we are the body. Revelation 21:1-8 1 Corinthians 13:8-12, "Now we see through a glass darkly but then face to face," At the final day, the day of resurrection and the great white throne judgment, then we will see fully. Revelation 20:10-15
That was an Amazing Message. You have done a Better job of explaining Ezek. 36-39 and Zech. 12-14 and how they related (mostly) to things that have already happened than anyone I have ever heard before. I think that when we Replace Modern day (Rebellious) "Israel" with the True "Israel of God" (the Church), that THAT is what is being Spoken of (in relation to the mark of the beast governments "surrounding His people.
According to what He (and the apostle Paul) said, He will Only save those who come to Him, and or Call on Him to do so. And those who do will Not be Ashamed of Him. In other words, He will save "the remnant." Romans 9:6-9 (and Gal. 3:16, 28-29) and many other passages make it clear that the True "Israel" is composed of Believers (in Yeshua / Jesus), and no others. @@jimbob1644
In Micah 4:6-7 we are told that when the Rapture happens (or the Gathering together of God's people at the end of the age --- from all over the earth) ... that He will "make the outcasts ... and the lame a remnant." And in Isa. 49:3, Jesus Himself is referred to as "Israel." Many Jews think that because Jesus didn't save the nation from Destruction, that THAT is why He is Not the Messiah (Jer. 23:5-6). What they Don't Realize is that we are Still Living in the Days of Messiah: simply because of Isa. 53:10 ... that His days will be Prolonged --- Forever --- because His body would "not see decay" because He would Rise from the Dead. Ps. 16:10 et al. I also Agree with Everything you said, and want to Add that Acts 15:11 uses that same Greek Phrase (from Romans 11:26) that is Translated there as "in the same way" --- that Jews are saved, so are Gentiles: i.e. Through Faith in Jesus --- which is what You also said.
Dear sir, thank soooo much❤your teachings are God's inspired and God sent... just one note (as raised in Catholic Europe) we had this urban legend, that until the end of the world - Jews and Arabs will be in conflict, so in other way around - the end will come, when Jews and Arabs finally stop conflict, and that was Catholics one of mythological believe concerning the end times, just to add, it's not only American evangelical belief ❤
Ezekiel 38 and 39 was fulfilled in the days of Esther. Haman was an Agagite or also known as a Gogite in the Septuigent. He came and attacked the returning Jews in hopes of plunder of livestock and goods. He and all his armies were destroyed. And it's even interesting that in Ezekiel 39 it is stated that his burial would be known as Hamon Gog. Haman and Hamon would have read exactly the same way because Hebrew had no vowels at this time.
@@turkwelschExcuse me, but even well-known leaders of dispensationalism are extremely uncharitable to opposing eschatological views. So it’s not a matter of “getting out more often”.
@@martdavid84 oh get real that goes across the board for all religious discussions from whatever point of view! you really do need to get out more often! If you think you know so much about the leaders of dispensationalism, who are the leaders of the Mid acts movement? You probably never even heard of it yet you think you’re an expert on your opposition!
@@turkwelsch Calm down, bro! No more coffee for you today, okay? Lol From your very first comment you’ve been swinging as if trying out for the UFC. This is a cordial discussion about disagreements we have with each other’s secondary doctrines; nothing more. Now, I happen to agree that dispensationalists are usually not open to even discussing another view and I think that can be proven by how dispensationalist leaders tend to label those who disagree with them as “antisemites”. If you don’t believe that is the case, OKAY. But I think it’s an obvious fact. NOBODY here has claimed to be an “expert” on anything so cut the drama. 😄
I appreciate this Brother When certain scriptures are ignored, there’s usually a reason. Luke 24:44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: EVERYTHING must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” 45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. Dan 9:24 Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your * people and your holy city * to finish transgression, * to put an end to sin, * to atone for wickedness, * to bring in everlasting righteousness, * to seal up vision and prophecy and * to anoint the Most Holy Place. So, if I understand you correctly, these things are have not been fulfilled, and will be 2000 years in the future? ~~~THE BOOKS ARE SEALED~~~ Daniel 12:4 "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase." Daniel 12:9 He said, "Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. ~~~THE BOOKS ARE OPENED~~~ Revelation 22:10 And he *said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.
I see eschatology as “already but not yet”. Things have happened that happened before and will happen again . History repeating itself as they say. The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 a.d. was but a foretaste of that which would come. My conviction is the REAL third temple are those Born Again of Yahs Spirit built by Him , His New Jerusalem.
There has always been a remnant and God has remained faithful to the remnant. " If there are but five will you preserve the people" ultimately God remains faithful because the promise to Abraham. The problem with this school of though is that these people don't realize that God keeps his promises because God is faithful not the people and it is God who preserves a remnant.. The promise was kept after Nebachenezer and that same promise holds today and tomorrow.
If Jesus is the King of Kings. And if Israel is His Kingdom. If He is the heir to David's throne - the Lion of Judah. If I believe all these things about Him and that He died for my sins so I may be made pure & holy & perfect.... then Jesus is my King & I'm a citizen of His Kingdom. Which by simple deductive logic means I am Abraham's SEED by The Blood of Jesus & The New Covenant. But the vast majority of Christian SEMENary school taught ministers say replacement theology is wrong. But after 79AD, even the TEMPLE was replaced by a Temple not built by hands. The Sons of God (Genesis 6:4) were also replaced by the saints grafted in by their Faith & the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords.
Speak to me as an unsaved man and tell me what I must do to be saved. How you present the gospel will show me what the real dangers are in the world today!
Thank you, I do know the answer. I presented it as a rhetorical question to the uploader seeing i perceived that he was including works into his gospel. he didnt have the guts to answer what specific things he turned from to be saved!@@jimbob1644
@@jimbob1644 You obviously aren't remotely interested in the truth. All you've done is comment with a bunch of lies and hit-and-run at hominems without even attempting to interact with the topic of the presentation, not give scriptural arguments for anything.
What have you to loose from reading the/any Bible cover to cover. Only then will you know if you are saved. No man can save you. Its an internal belief, something hits you that creation is true and we are loved and cherished. No one apart from God knows your true heart.
Pastor Steve : is possible you can do a video lesson on Isaac Vs Ishmael: Jews vs Arabs ? This seems to be one of the major tenets of Dispensationalism and they rally around it.
You mentioned the date 539 bc in reference to when Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild. That doesn't make sense since the 69 weeks from the decree to His baptism and anointing by the Holy Spirit would put the decree on or about 457 or 456 bc. I've heard other preachers also refer to 539 bc. But somebody must have the dates of Cyrus' reign messed up. I have also heard others say that Artaxerxes or some other ruler issued a decree but that would clearly contradict Isaiah 44. Can you help clear up this confusion?
The recognized date of Cyrus' decree was 539 B.C. There were additional decrees made by Artaxerxes in 457 and 445 B.C., respectively. Different scholars have chosen different decrees (among the three) as their starting points for the 70 weeks. The decree of Cyrus seems too early by about 80 years. Because of their commitment to the Cyrus date, some scholars have suggested that our whole dating scheme for pre-Christian history after Daniel's time has been miscalculated, due to a mistake made by Ptolemy in the second century. All modern dating conventions follow Ptolemy's dating, but Anstey, Mauro, and others suggest that Ptolemy estimated the length of the Persian Empire as eighty years too long-which would require the recalibration of every established date for events prior to the time of Alexander the Great.
Thank you Steve and Scott for your replies. Steve, your comment made me dig into Ptolemy - who is this guy? From what I can see on Wikipedia and Britannica, he developed a model of the universe with the earth at its center. Hmmm. Not intending to sound sarcastic, but really? We are basing our dating of Biblical events on the work of a second century astronomer who is referenced in Wikipedia as having work full of errors, miscalculations, and who is labelled as "the most successful fraud in scientific history"? It may require the "recalibration of every established date for events prior to the time of Alexander the Great" as you say Steve, and I'm no scientist with the ability to accomplish that daunting task, but maybe some smart guy who is a Christian should help us out here. And Scott, I looked at the 445 BC date - adding 483 years to that gets me to 38 AD which is not a date which lines up with anything which was prophesied in Daniel 9:24. I guess I may be completely looney toons, but I think I'll stick with what the Bible says. I believe Jesus was baptized and anointed in 26 AD. Subtracting 483 from that date takes me to 457 BC. That may be 80 years away from the generally accepted date of the Cyrus decree, but the infallibility of scripture forces me to ignore any other conclusion. In the end, it makes not a bit of difference to salvation and walking with Christ and His desire that none should perish but all come to repentance. Thanks again to both of you guys. Blessings.
He mentioned that in regards to them going back to their land, from promises in Ezekiel. If I am not mistaken. I assume if he was speaking on Dan 9 he would use 457. Relistening a second time now and will take notes.
Thank you Steve. Is there a way that I can get a copy of the notes for this series on the Middle East crisis in a dangerous of dispensationalism? As always, God bless you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
25For I know that my Redeemer lives, and at the last he will stand upon the earth. I got a question, is the kingdom for the second coming of our Lord Jesus, and the marriage super of the Lamb us the bride groom the saints that come with Jesus? Glory to God in the highest for sending his one and only Son, blessings
There are a few people that are partial-preterist Premill, such as Duncan McKenzie and J. Stuart Russell. I personally don't think it's a good teaching as it is closer to Full preterism than partial preterism. We have seen Historic Premillenianism to be more of an accepted view in the past. (A.B. Simpson, Charles Spurgeon, Henry Grattan Guineas)
@@ruthmayforth5933 Historic premillennialism maintains a simpler and more ancient perspective on the sequence of Christ's return and the millennium. Church fathers like Irenaeus, and Justin Martyr would've held to this view. There are a few things that often fit the Historic Premillenianist view. (A) That Rev20:1-6 is a literal interpretation for a millenium kingdom. The millenium kingdom happens after the second coming. (B) There is a post-tribulation rapture. (C) People will look at revelation and make certain passages fit the history of the world. (D) Most parts of revelation are treated as apocalyptic literature and therefore are symbolic. Seventh Day Adventist are also historic premillenianist but they're infamous for predicting when the return of Christ was to be. This was due to how they fit certain history onto revelation. I'm sympathetic to this position and we have early church fathers that held similar views to this. I'm currently stuck between an Amillenial futurist, and this one. I've been listening to Steve Gregg, and reading G.K. Beale, and George Ladd lately. G.K. Beale helps contextualised Idealism and symbolic Christian views on Revelation. George Ladd is also quite good from what I have read so far.
Great teaching ! Thanks My only question… wasn’t the house of Israel scattered during the Assyrian conquest and the house of Judah during he Babylonian conquest?
Thanks for the reply Steve, so if that is the case then the return of “Judah” via Cyrus to the promised land couldn’t be the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecies considering the northern kingdom did not come back. I believe Jesus’s statements in Matthew 15:24 backs this up. Which would mean those fulfillments would come at the resurrection. Also it seems that Ezekiel 36 speaks directly on this as the house of Israel’s return supported by the prophecy of the new covenant in Jer 31:31. Again. I have LOVED your content! Thoughts?
After the Gog Magog war God pours out his Spirit on the House of Israel . Ezekiel 39:29 How did this happen in past history or on the day of Pentecost@@wayfaringfarmer2724
@@wayfaringfarmer2724 was a remnant of the northern kingdom of Israel ( Ephraim)joined with Judah ( as the one stick prophesied in Ezekiel 37) when it came back to the land ?
How about: Isaiah 11:11 indicates there would be a day when God would raise his hand “a second time” to gather the children of Israel to their homeland. Could that be referring to when the Jews returned to Jerusalem at Pentecost?
Great teaching from a man with a deep understanding of scripture, an excellent expository. I study the Bible myself and no longer follow the dispensational model. Personally, I now subscribe to the historic teachings of Christianity & all the early protestant reformers concerning their assertions about the Biblical Antichrist - the Roman Catholic Church and office of the papacy. Modern Christianity has completely divorced itself from the historic record and the teachings of the historic church on this very important principle. Despite the modern churches dastardly failing on this point, one can thankfully read works by modern journalists that verify the Bible's teaching about Antichrist, that ‘great whore’ responsible for 'all those slain on the earth' Revelations 18. Paul Williams, in his book Operation Gladio, describes how the CIA is an organisation intimately linked to and controlled by the Vatican. The CIA created a billion-dollar heroin trade in southeast Asia to finance its operations and when that area could no longer produce the poppies due to drought they chose Afghanistan as the next location to produce the drug. To protect their interests in Afghanistan, the CIA recruited, financed, and trained several groups. One of those groups was called ISIS, another group was Hezbollah, and another group they funded and armed was Hamas. Paul Williams, a former Roman Catholic, lays out the information very clearly in his book - that Hamas was created and funded by the CIA and still are. The CIA (Catholic Intelligence Agency) is under the control of the Vatican. Ultimately, Hamas is a Roman Catholic entity doing the bidding of the CIA. You have to get this folks - All Roads Lead Back To Rome, the early Christian church agreed that the following biblical characters: The Man of Sin written about by Paul, the Little Horn by Daniel, and John's Woman That Rides The Beast. All these characters are the one and same entity and their prophecies are fulfilled to the letter in the historical record by the Roman Catholic church - to the letter folks. Avro Manhattan, a great journalist, describes in his books how the Roman Catholic Church was responsible for bringing Hitler to power and how it was also responsible for the atrocities and genocide in Bosnia, and the Vietnam War. David Yallop, Avro Manhattan, Paul Williams, and many more independent journalists have written extensively on this topic and their accounts are uniform with Bible prophecy. You won't hear this information in modern evangelical churches, they’re too busy espousing dispensational nonsense. All roads lead back to Rome that is the truth. Though I am not a 7th-day Adventist, which the presenter obviously is - the presentation he gives about Rome's links to Hamas is excellent, see the link below: Pressing Issues: Israel, Hamas, and Response to Doug Batchelor-with Bill Hughes and Kody Morey - RUclips
Brethen, with the Word of God not speaking of a second coming. . . . seeing what it is and isn't can reveal the language all the way back to the old Covenant. DAY OF THE LORD Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, Even the day of the Lord is near; It will be a day of clouds, Isaiah 13:9 behold, the day of the Lord is coming, Cruel, with fury and burning anger, To make the land a desolation; Zephaniah 1:14 Near is the great day of the Lord, Near and coming very quickly; Malachi 4:1-“For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze,” says the Lord of hosts, “so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.” Joel 2:30- I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, Blood, fire and columns of smoke. “The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood Before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes. Acts 2:19-20 ‘And I will grant wonders in the sky above And signs on the earth below, Blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke. ‘The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood, Before the great and glorious day of the Lord shall come. Matthew 24:30-31 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory 1 Corinthians 1:8 who will also confirm you to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Philippians 1:6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 2 Peter 3:11-12 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, en. 7 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. Revelation 6:15-Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
Good teaching brother, some New Testament teachers have said because Romans chp 11 until the fullness of the Gentiles come in...that God stopped dealing with Israel, that v 11- 28, concerning the Gospel verses Covenant remnant...that God will deal with Israel after the Church is raptured...that Jews couldn't be saved...many have had to walk that back...this is what they call replacement theology...there's no such thing.
Spirit poured out in the former rain on Pentecost, Acts 2, and will again in a latter rain at the end time?? I am re-looking at all this after 40 years in church.. My paradigm shifting friends.
Matthew 19:28 " When the Son of Man sits on His Throne - you will sit on 12 thrones Judging the 12 tribes of Israel " . Does mr Gregg think the 12 Apostles will Judge the Christians in the Olive tree in the Millenium ? .
If any man speak, let him speak as an oracle of God. Let God be true, and every man a liar. Huge responsibility to be speaking as "Thus saith the Lord", but not by the unction of Gods Holy Spirit of truth, who leads Gods elect into all truth! Wood, hay and stubble is all we have to offer on our own goings.
1:29:23 ‘I’m not Jewish but I am Israel’ doesn’t make sense if you don’t think Israel is ethnic. He already stated the name ‘Israel’ is used in many ways but he regularly defaults to ethnicity. As Paul states a Jew is a Jew in heart not who your daddy is.
My Brother is dispensationalists he listens to Dr Tony Evans and he is not open to anything other than his false teachings about end times please pray for my brother 😢✝️🙏
One of the features overlooked by the adherents of dispensationalism is its claim that certain prophetic events are yet to be fulfilled in the future which implies that Jesus cannot return at this very moment because these so-called events have not yet taken place. A second claim is that God saved man in different ways at different times. This claim by Darby contradicts the statement in Hebrews that says that nothing ever pleased God except faith (Hebrews 11:6). Some dispensational teachers have recognized this problem and are trying to distance themselves from this heretical view by contradicting Darby. And many dispensational teachers contradict each other to the point of violent accusations.
I have found that when we get twisted up in these thoughts, they always originate when we jump from theology into philosophy (man's thinking). You can pick out this problem that causes all the contention in the church when you can declare something and then say (or think), "It Only Stands to Reason." I call them IOSTRS. When we pit one sin-cursed man's thoughts against another sin-cursed man's thoughts, we get a mess. Once you are tuned into this, you will find this contention disappears. Never depend on Google, Wiki, etc., or any other mainstream stats to base your theology on. Never go to "church fathers" for your theology... these writings are fabricated and filled with catholic heresies. Also, we love to belong to a group so the temptation is to run into the arms of reformed theology which has just as many or more problems with their system... You have to pick the diamonds (Biblical truth) out of the manure of each of these "systems". It's a minefield.
1:28:19 ‘the remnant became a new nation but they are Israel ‘ huh? Not hating on this guy just highlighting things that don’t make sense. Sure sounds like a replacement to me.!
@@tedbastwock3810 if the law is a type why will it be written on our hearts at the resurrection and we will never sin again , see Jer31. also Israel is one nation those who follow the God of Abraham Issac and Israel.
Also EZ 37.14 addresses what I believe is the orhthodox objection to the state of Israel, in that it says "I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land." They believe that only God can re4store them to the land. It is sacrilegious for man to do it. That makes sense. I'd heard that opinion before and when you read it, it sounded exactly like what I'd heard referenced. Also the covenant would explain how many believe God would not acknowledge a non-religious Israel...
Regarding the war of Magog. You choose to take the years and the fire and brimstone fivuratively saying that is the more reasonable approach. Is it really? Would years have been different lengths in the intertestamental period from now? No significant difference. Therefore no reason for God to use figurative language, He could have said seven days or weeks if that is what He meant. Is fire and brimstone so different today if it were to fall from heaven that we need to speak figuratively in order for people to understand? Again, no! My premise is this, God is a good communicator and so He always uses literal terms familiar to His original target audience if possible! If there are details that are not comprehendable to His audience He chooses to use the closest term in order to communicate as clearly as possible. Weaponry is something that changes a lot over time! So in any portion of prophesy speaking of battles in the distant future, God is forced to use the terms of weapons they are familiar with in order for them to understand that we are talking about a war here with lots of heavily armed enemies that God will defeat to save Israel. If He were to say tank or Ak 47or helicopter people would be left wondering if they understood anything at all that He was talking about. So not wanting to launch into a prophetic explanation of what future weapons will be like God goes figurative. So, I assert that fivurative weapons maintains God's goal of good communication, allowing us to better understand when this war has or hasnt been fulfilled! There is no ancient battle that fits this description leading us to conclude it hasnt happened yet! If we take as figurative the fire and brimstone we are left trying to force this description into some ancient battle and when nothing fits we have to punt to mystery . This calls into question the value of revealing anything about it at all. Why would God waste pages writing about things so vaguely that even after they happen it is impossible to really confirm that that was it? I wouldnt consider God a good communicator in that instance!
The Jews in Israel today cannot trace any of their ancestors to any of the 12 tribes of Israel. There were 12 of them. They claim the term Jew came from Judah, but there are 11 more tribes. Leslie, how could somebody trace their ancestry to specifically Judah. I think this whole state of Israel is based on shotty ancestry claims. This is something that most people have been thinking all along, but don’t want to admit. I know with the 23 me ancestry testing the Ashkenazi Jews are always under European that right there alone should tell you who these people are. No offense to Eastern European Jews, but those are their people.
Here’s a thing to be wary of my friend. I have challenged Steve about his presentation of the gospel, and he has not given it because he knows that he will not say that it is a free gift without any works on our own, because that would be a promise of God, that is unconditional If you are wise, you will steer clear of this teaching
I doubt you have ever communicated with Steve. Wow, you posted a comment on this video 32 minutes ago, and someone who has priority over responding to social media comments hasn't answered you immediately, so you just make up lies? This truly shows your character.
The condition is that we come to Jesus Christ Humbly, ask Him to come into our lives, and turn from sin, and be changed. That is a condition, we don’t just get that automatically. It is a free gift, but the gift is not just given to us if we don’t ask for it, and obey the word of Jesus Christ, and turn from sin. I know that Father calls us , And if we respond to him by turn to Jesus Christ, would you get that gift. So I am just stating that is not unconditional. The unconditional part comes in as you could be the worst sinner, Paul was a pretty bad sinner, and he came to Jesus Christ. Saying that anyone can be saved, if they turn to Jesus Christ, and turn away from sin, and except Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Proclaim that Jesus Christ is God. I hope that helps you.
You said the same thing on the previous video, but I don’t believe you. Primarily because in 20 years of listening to Steve Gregg teach I have heard him say exactly that hundreds of times. He’s very clear. One of the things I love about Steve is that he always says what he thinks without consideration of what other people might think about it.
Steve, You say that there are no verses that teach Israel's return to their land in the last days? Hosea 3 which you actually quoted in part 1 of this series. The entire chapter is a quick overview of Israel' post exilic history. They willbe without a king for many days! They never had another king after the death of Zedekiah! The partial return under Cyrus did not fulfill this chapter. In the last days they will seek David their king and come trembling back to the Lord! Hosea 3 directly says plainly what you say the Bible never says!
"The Old Testament is obsolete; the promises were fulfilled." That is what I believe although I guess I am a dispensationalist. My PCA pastor, however, would not agree.
The restoration from the exile of the house of Israel (Ezek 36:21-32) is fulfilled under, in and through the New Covenant IN CHRIST, the One New Man, Adam 2. Heb 8:10 and 10:16, 22, Acts 2. The house of Israel was scattered by Assyria in 721 BC (10 northern lost tribes). The house of Judah (tribes Judah, Benjamin and Levi) was exiled into Babylon in 605 BC and returned to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple and the city after 70 years captivity. The restoration of the Nation of Israel is the re-union of the two separated houses under One Shepherd, Jesus Christ. Ezek 34:23 and 37:15-28, John 10:16.
I can't find anything in the NT about a supposed conflict between Isaac and Ishmael ( as I was always taught this heresy). It seems to go hand in hand with Jewish exceptionalism and looks down on Arabs.
God gave Arabs Arabia Mt Sinai and God Gave Jews Mt Zion /Jerusalem . Galatians 4:21 . People who only use the NT arent playing with the full deck . Its like playing poker with only the picture cards , you think you have a good hand but you are only fooling yourself
We have problems with the use of the word “Jew”, it’s become convoluted, in our modern world, where Hebrews, Israelites, Judaites, And Jews, all mean the same thing but that depends on the context. But as to the word “Jew”, it was translated from the Greek word “loudaios” And seems to have been loosely used, according to Strongs Concordance, Greek Lexicon, to describe both Jews and early Christians, and not only folks from Judah. I think what we have now, is our modern use of the word creeping into discussions of scripture, where a better job of distinguishing between the different ancient cultures, needs to be done. Going back and looking how the words were used in the Greek would go a long way in doing this.
steve, Ive watched many of your past videos and agree with you 100%, Im just getting ready to watch this video and the one that proceded it, but I want to ask you right now, do you condemn israels cutting off water, food, electricity to 2.3 million palastinians in an attempt to starve them to death AND israels bombing and killing of 10,000+ palastinians along with bombing churches, ambulances and hospitals? as I go through many christian channels I see most christians simply dont care at all about the palastinians and NONE will condemn israel for doing these evil acts. will YOU condemn israel for thier evil acts of genocide?
Do you condemn Muhammads command for Muslims to fight the Jews until they are destroyed ? Real Christians dont care who rules Jerusalem "Our Kingdom is not of this world" . We did not support the Jews in their war with the Romans 2000 years ago , we dont support Israel today but we wont be fighting the Jewish state because God sent them back in 1948 as the Jewish bible said they would return and all the nations will be gathered against them . Zechariah chapter 12 and 14
Repent and believe ALL that Lord Jesus has said: "in the world you will have tribulation. ... then shall there be great tribulation ... watch ... be ready."
I hope Steve Gregg addresses Isaiah 66:8 at which many claim that was fulfilled when Israel became a nation in one day in 1948. I filnd this claim ridiculous and using Isaiah 66:8 has no reference to 1948. Hope STEVE mentions it on his next video
Thank SO much for "studying" to not only show yourself "approved unto God" but also that you "may have to have to give to those who have need. 👃😉 If we DON'T study, how are we going to "rightly divide" anything. It's like parting your hair correctly: if you want to do it right, you got to look in the mirror. Want to "rightly divide the "Word of truth", (2 Timothy 2:15) need to spend some TIME there, not just 4 or 5 minutes before dinner.
Su intención es buena pero las profecías restauracionistas no se refieren a el retorno de la cautividad de Babilonia, sino al Mundo Venidero, incluida la Resurrección.
2 hours and 50 minutes of teaching later, I am still waiting for the verse by verse exegesis promised in part 1. Not one reference to the Hebrew or Greek text. No mention of Daniel's 70th week. Jesus fulfilled the law. His grace and salvation for me is not dependent on my ability to keep my end of the covenant but on His ability to keep His. Grace alone to the Jew and the Gentile in the face of our rebellion is the good news. The great tribulation is called Jacob's trouble. Not the Church's trouble. The church is not Jacob. The Church's persecution and the persecution of the Jews during the time of Jacob's trouble are unrelated.
This is just wrong, the speaking of coming back is clearly in the future, as there is NO time in history when "all the nations of the earth" have surrounded Jerusalem... Never happened, thus those predictions in Ezekiel and Psalms MUST be future... Its obvious.. The explanation you gave is just opinion, and, in my opinion anyway, does not fir with scripture.. Its become clear to me, Israel, as an independent nation, is the key of the end times. And, this does not compete with the Church in anyway
The land comes with conditions. It’s possible the current occupants, as an organized entity, could be displaced and regathered yet again, with Christ appearing or not appearing in the interim.The second coming may or may not be when the land is occupied by a so-called State. It was the first time, although it wasn’t an independent Jewish country, being ruled by Greeks first, then Romans.
This is why you must understand Daniel's 70th week. The nation of Israel is lost at this time. But at the midpoint of the tribulation, The abomination of desolation will take place. The people that flee jerusalem, Will be saved. This is why second Timothy 215. Says if you don't learn how to rightly divide you will end up being ashamed, Basically you Will make a fool of yourself.
It's quite clear in Daniel 9 there is a time line and everything he said would happen has happened. Its called 70 weeks the 69 weeks is up to the Messiah ministry. Thats the easy math. Then the 70th week the Messiah was cut off during his 1 week or 7 years. He got people to destroy the temple and cease the sacrifices, which was seen by the generation that knew the Messiah. It also says that Israel will always be desolate. The new Jerusalem is being prepared In heaven for the end times not a brick building down here built by man. I can't find anything you have said in scriptures.
Read Daniel 9:24-27 in the Septuagint translation . It supports everything you say except that Israel will always be Desolate . " at the end of the age an end shall be put to the desolationa"@@foreveryoung5
2nd Timothy 2:15. It says, "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth." The key to evaluating what this means is to look at the original language of 2nd Timothy 2:15. And this is what we find. The word that is translated "rightly dividing" in the Old and New King James versions, and in several others, is a single word in the Greek. It is a form of the Greek verb orthotomeo. In New Testament times, orthotomeo was primarily a civil engineering term. It was used, for example, as a road building term. The idea of the word was to cut straight, or to guide on a straight path. The idea is to cut a roadway in a straight manner, so that people who will travel over that road can arrive at their destination directly, without deviation. Orthotomeo was also used as a mining term. It meant to drill a straight mine shaft. It literally means the opposite of "divide."
Yes regarding God's "judgement" and requirements of Israel. There is only One Way. Questions? Jacob and Esau? Zionism? Theodore Herzl's Political Zion as opposed to God's measured Land of Zion - Israel? Jesus was a Jew (mother) born in Bethlehem. And to Israel and the Mount of Olives, He will rerurn. Revelation 1:8.
With John the Baptist, the old covenant ended and the law, writings and prophets, all prophecies about the Lord were fulfilled in Him. Luke 24. As the Lord second coming approaches, the battle is about the Christian teaching. Jesus Christ from Nazareth is the Father image and Truth embodied. We all are His witness. Israel us a man man country who needs Jesus blood. Yhey do know withouth blood there is no forgivness of sin.
Im just gobsmacked at the number of people who come on here just to argue. It's truly sad and pathetic...some people learn NOTHING and really are like their father satan...
Here's something you did not cover Read Revelation 3:9 and 10 and answer these 2 questions. Who are the people who say they are Jews and are not and who are the people Jesus loves and whom he considers to be the true Jews? (rev 2:9 and 3:9) Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Rev 3:10 Because thou (the true jews whom Jesus loves in the previous verse) hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Are The people whom Jesus loves written in Rev. 3:9 the same group of people Jesus is addressing in Rev. 3:10 (The church of Philidelphia/Christians)? he is not a Jew which is one outwardly in the flesh, but inwardly. Born of the Holy spirit of God.
That’s a rather mysterious verse that, in my personal opinion, could apply to Jesus’ time just as it could apply today. Have you looked to John 8 for a clue? They answered him, “We be Abraham’s seed and have never been in bondage to anyone” “how can you say, we will be made free” John 8: 33 “I know the you ARE Abraham’s seed, but you seek to kill me, because my word has no place in you” John 8:37 “If you were Abraham’s children, then you would do the works of Abraham” John 8:39 “You are of your Father the devil and the desires of your father, you will do” John 8:44 Here, The Pharisees (Jews) claim to be the seed of Abraham and Jesus acknowledges that indeed they are descendants of Abraham. But because they do not do the works of Abraham and, do not love Jesus, who was sent by God, he calls them the children of the devil. The works of Abraham is faith, and the greatest commandment of Jesus was to love God and love one another, which Jesus calls them out on both counts. Since that passage in Revelation applies to Jews, maybe the passages I recited in John will help you to better understand what and who, he was talking about.
@@williamcarr3976 In Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 Jesus talks about "Jews" not about Abraham's seed. The difference is mentioned by Paul in Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." On the other hand, there are certain promises made to the "Jews" ie Davidic Covenant, God did not make a covenant with the church regarding an everlasting Kingdom. This covenant was given to a Jew. Mosaic law was given to Jews.The Jews are still under the law because they did not receive the Gospel. Paul says that accursed is the man who, being under the law, does not follow it. Clearly the Jewish people have suffered in a manner consistent with being cursed, particularly in the 20th century. It seems to me that in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Jesus is talking about the replacement theology of some who say they are Jews, but are not. They conflate the covenants. The Church that says it has replaced Israel was responsible for the holocaust on Jews. It was called "the third reich" and was supposed to last 1000 years, and had the blessing of the Papacy and some protestant churches in Germany. The Papacy and most protestant churches are responsible for keeping people ignorant of dispensations. The modern nation of Israel was born after world war II, the Jewish nation had paid for it's iniquity from Ezekiel 4 and Leviticus 26. They only paid 70 years after Babylonian captivity. 360 years were left. Multiplied by 7 from the time the captivity ended in approx. 537 BC leads to the end of word war II (when you convert to gregorian years)
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STEVE'S NOTES : www.matthew713.com/notes/files/The_Middle_East_Crisis_and_the_Dangers_of_Dispensationalism_2023.pdf
Link to Steve's response to Michael L. Brown mentioned at 52:10 www.matthew713.com/notes/files/Israel_a_response_to_Dr_Michael_Brown-v3.pdf
The 7% of Christians in Gaze is a bit high. there are approx 0.004% with a population of 2.5million. In the West Bank, it is about 50,000 which is
approx 1.6 % with a population of 3.2 million. in Isreal there about
100,000 which is 1.9% with a population of 9.4 million. If you add the population of all three communities you have 15.1 million with 3.5/6% Christian. What is a Christian is another debate in the light of the apostle's teaching.
Thank you for posting your notes; really appreciate it !
marcus
A wonderfully refreshing display of a sound and level headed interpretation of the sacred scriptures. ✔️
WOW! finally someone has explained this whole mess ! This could be a game changer for good Christians badly thought, and for the whole world in fact. Thank you brother Steve!!
Finally someone who has his theology correct!
Thankyou Steve. Been saved for many yrs and just learning about Zionism and dispensationalist now.
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Thank you. Your sermons answer so many questions for me. I didn't even know that i was a dispensationalist, though i had heard the word.
Excellent talk, Sir. Very well done.
marcus
I have been receiving so many questions from folks lately - its so helpful to have Steve Gregg videos to refer people to if I don't have the bandwidth to answer. Brilliant, as always.
Jews will turn to Jesus during the Tribulation; Matthew 23-39 KJV
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. until, a big word. Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
@@rickraybourn7456 show me where that passage says anything about the tribulation?
@@TheOverlapLifewithTimBarber “until” is what you are missing. Israel is still being trampled on by the Gentiles. Israel (who tried 6 times to trade land for peace) is indeed being trampled on by Gentiles. I’ve been there and it’s obvious. Out of the kindness of Israel, mosques are everywhere in the land. You will see them and hear them as you walk around.
Try building a synagogue in an Arab country. Good luck with that. Or in many Muslim countries, a brand new church for that matter.
Furthermore, Moshe Dayan, in hopes of having peace, gave away control of the Temple Mount to Jordan. Even though he didn’t have the authority to do that. That “until” has not happened either.
The tribulation is not like any of the wars or rumors of wars of the past. Those were birth pains. Birth pains come harder and faster. I’ve personally been there observing and hearing that also. What is happening right now - are more severe and faster birth pains.
V33 “so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.”
- so “who is the fig tree”?…we have to ask from V32.
Israel (in unbelief today) is completely done offering land for peace. Why? Because the rockets and terror keep coming and will continue to come. They know that and we know that. Coming from all sides. For Israel, this is a time for war.
“For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:”
Matthew 24:28-29 KJV
So what is the carcass? The physical and spiritual destruction that Satan caused (and God allowed) during the time of the the tribulation (using the anti-Christ and the false prophet).
So…
immediately after the tribulation (or “distress” - NIV). A great distress, unequaled “for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
Matthew 24:21 KJV
I do not know the times or season, or the day or the hour - so please don’t ask.
I will tell you, that as you occasionally look up while you are making Him known, to look up. Because He is coming to meet us in the air. Our redemption (full, in heaven) is drawing close!
The dispensation that Israel is in, is obvious now. It is undeniable. They will not trade peace for land anymore. The tribulation spoken clearly about in the Bible above has not started ….yet! But land for peace? That ship has sailed.
@@TheOverlapLifewithTimBarber Hosea 5:15
“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.”
@@JamieElison Hi Jamie, I’m so glade that you are here. Since you know prophecy then I’m sure you wouldn’t keep us in the dark about what’s coming soon. Please give us the insight to the timeline of events I would like to track it on a chart you know like we do with hurricanes. Now I would like the corresponding Bible verses with the events so I don’t miss anything. Approximate dates are fine since we can’t know the day or hour. Oh! and who is the beast?
These are two excellent videos from a man who's clearly done much deep study of scripture. I myself was really torn on this issue of Israel in the last days, so much so that I felt to pray for clarification as to which viewpoint really reflected God's purposes. Then these videos popped up on my feed (it had been a long time since I'd seen any from Steve Gregg). Maybe giving me the very answer to prayer I was seeking. The one on Replacement Theology was also excellent. These teachings are very good expository.
Praise God!
Steve has a ton verse-by-verse teaching, topical studies, and a daily Bible Q&A and program called The Narrow Path on this channel and at www.thenarrowpath.com that may further benefit you.
@@SteveGreggVideos I read your transcript of Acts 15 and I wonder if you aren't so involved in the details of the characters that you fail to pick up on a truth that is being revealed. James is saying 14 Simon has declared how God at the "first" visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:
16
‘After this ( after God takes from the gentiles a people for His name) I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; It isn't a structure or tent that has fallen down. It is a people, The Jews.
Would this not qualify as dispensationism?
@@jash7401 Maybe SteveGreggVideos might respond to your question but here's my take based on my own study and understanding of Scripture. Disclaimer: My views don't necessarily represent Steve Gregg's.
There are Old Testament passages that connect Gentiles with the 10 tribes of Israel that fell away. One such passage is in Hosea 1: 9 - 11. Israel fell and was scattered into the nations and thus was denounced as 'Not My People', which means their descendants became Gentiles through assimilation with the Gentile nations. But we read that God will gather those who are 'Not My People' and join them with Judah under one Head (we know from the NT that the head is Christ).
9 And the Lord said, “Call his name Not My People, for you are not my people, and I am not your God.”
10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And in the place where it was said to them, “You are not my people,” it shall be said to them, “Children of the living God.” 11 And the children of Judah and the children of Israel shall be gathered together, and they shall appoint for themselves one head. - Hosea 1: 9 - 11 (ESV)
Likewise, if you read the passage in Acts 15 plainly for what it says, you'll see that James understood the quote from Amos 9:11,12 about the Tabernacle of David, which had fallen down that God was rebuilding, as a direct reference to the Gentile people being restored, who are called by God.
13 After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. 14 Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 “‘After this I will return,
and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen;
I will rebuild its ruins,
and I will restore it,
17 that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord,
and all the Gentiles who are called by my name,
says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.’ - Acts 15: 13 - 17 (ESV)
In conclusion, it was always a faithful remnant of Israel, Judah, and even proselytes who were considered God's covenant people based on the law of Moses. The OT does reveal that the New Covenant would comprise a believing remnant among the Jews (until the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple) and those from the Gentile races from then on who were to be restored under Christ's blood. To believe in Christ means to place one's salvific confidence in Him alone and not in combination with one's status or racial pedigree.
The Jews that were scattered after 70 AD were also assimilated into the nations as a result so that even they count as Gentiles in God's eyes today. No more ethnic Jews! Hence the times of the Gentiles were foretold as imminent. This way their Gentile offsprings who believe in Christ may be restored as 'Children of the Living God'.
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Maybe its true. Everyone does read into the text that which supports their view.
It’s so rare to find Bible teachers like Steve - so reasonable, balanced, thoughtful, Biblical, and logical!
I really agree! Such great teaching. The dispensational teaching never sat right with me. But I understand Steve’s logical, balanced, biblical teaching! 🔥🔥🔥
I've prayed and studied for years and everything you've said is what I have believed to be true. I don't get any support on what I believe so it was refreshing to of found this channel a couple days ago. I feel I finally have a community now. I know there was a pastor leading his church along these beliefs in Austrlia and I'd it's on RUclips but not here too much unless you look at some of the reformed churches.
That's wonderful! If you're on Facebook, search for Steve Gregg - The Narrow Path. Steve has verse by verse teaching throughout the Bible, as well as topical teachings & a daily radio program at thenarrowpath.com. Notes on many of his teachings searchable Q&A of calls from his radio show are at matthew713.com.
Do you know the name of the Australian pastor please?
If your like me I bet you have listened to 1000s of so called preachers of the word, only to find they ain't seeing what I see. You start to question yourself and feel very alone with our way of seeing the WORD. So much confusion out there. I too have only just found a few teachers who are speaking my thoughts. There is a guy in the UK where I am called Christopher J Sparks who has spent 25 years correcting all the mistranslations in our Bibles. He has a channel called " The Keys of The Kingdom Holy Bible " I just bought his Bible and hope it's easier to read. It's like all of my notes and crossing out in my KJV Bible in one.
I would stay away from Calvinism too, it is a man-made framework much like dispensationalism.
Check out Chuck Baldwin, he taught dispensationalism for 30 year's before the Lord opened his eyes 14 year's ago .
Feel so blessed to have just found this channel and Steve. A brilliant exposition many thanks.
I earnestly pray that the nation of Israel will turn to Christ, but if this conflict goes south for them, I pray for the dispensationalists who will undoubtedly be shaken in their faith.
@turkwelsch Hi! I’ve seen you commenting this in other videos. I’ll be honest, I don’t know what you mean. What could I look up to learn more about mid-Acts dispensationalism? Any books, websites, or teachers you could recommend? If I’m going to disagree, I need to know what I’m disagreeing with.
@@bvowelslook at "parable of the Vineyard" and "Chuck Baldwin".
The nation of Israel (Jacob) is all those who have the same God as Abraham Issac and Jacob,ie Jehovah - it’s that simple.
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Did you really get the point of this whole teaching?
I'd recommend reading the words of Jesus (red letter) in the book of John.
After that, what he says in the rest of the gospels. Better than MANY teachers.
@@richardright752Not quite accurate, 1 John 2:22-23 says Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. - so this clearly excludes those who believe in Judaism and Islam, both of whom claim they worship the same God as Abraham, Isaac an Jacob.
Thank you for sharing truth,… I keep asking God for truth,.. your video shows up,.. God bless you
Wonderful!
@@jimbob1644 But they don't like to be sentenced.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Hi Jim Bob. What is "the Stream"?
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv What comments? You can't even tell me what the comments are?
I greatly enjoy your lecture.
Pray the light of Christ shine within our hearts. Our Lord is gentle and humble heart. His heart must be grieving this violence. May God sanctify our hearts that we may love as He loves. Thank you as always for your vigilance in teaching 🙏🏻🪔
How many Christians have read the Old Testament? It appears not many. David killed many thousands of Palestinians.
Wow this is exactly how i am seeing this. And all of this time i thought that i was in the Twilight zone because nobody else sees what I'm seeing.
I totally believe that it is spiritual Israel that are being called from the nations and we are consisting of both Jewish and Gentile made into one body of believers.
There is no such thing as "spiritual Israel"
@@Skinnymoosewrong.
It is very possible that the previous commenter is speaking as Paul ,example: Romans 9:6 . The Spiritual Israel would be all that have the living faith that Abraham had ,thus ,this characteristic makes them descendents of Abraham no matter their ethnicity .
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You couldn't be any more wrong.
"Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:7. "For they are not all Israel which are of Israel; neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children… but the children of promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9:6-8.
"And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise" Galatians 3:29.
"For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." Philippians 3:3,
Spiritual and not physical
@rhondaweber5638 Actually, the promises were made to the physical jews (all of Israel), but only the spiritual among the physical jews receive the promises. For example, Esau was just as much a child of Issac as Jacob, yet Jacob received the promise, and Esau didn't. Joseph is both a physical and spiritual Jew but Judas isn't. The church isn't spiritual Israel. The church has different promises. If you are spiritual Israel, why aren't you over in Israel getting the land that God promised you?
Steve, I've been unpacking this for quite awhile (years). I started with, who/what is the synagogue of satan. Thank you for your excellent content 🙏 Super helpful!
Very good. I’m glad God took the scales off your eyes. Have u researched the Talmud
Thank you very much this is the best explanation I've ever heard you are truly blessed! Please keep spreading the Bible truths! GOD bless you ✝️🙏
Its good to see some real biblical teaching in this day of apostacy. I pray for all people to have the veil removed.
Jews will turn to Jesus during the Tribulation; Matthew 23-39 KJV
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. until, a big word. Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
@@rickraybourn7456 that tribulation was 70 ad. * math. 24. Rom. 11 is not about a Jewish tribulation....the fullness of the gentiles is at His coming.
@@rickraybourn7456watch from 40 min mark on, speaks of Matt 23:39 and Rom 11.
@jimbob1644 yes I did.
@jimbob1644 that's your opinion. Thankfully, the Bible interprets itself. The new covenant fulfilled the old. Not the other way around. Daniel was fulfilled in the first century. Jesus brought the new covenant, in His shed blood. Removed the old that is now obsolete because it is finished! ( the old law and prophets). You've been taught by false teachers and their false theology that seeks to destroy His work on the cross. Just like Paul explained.
Jesus said, as in the MESSIAH, the One we Christian’s believe in, He said , “ I AM the way the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the Father but THRU ME” . No one would include, Jews , who refuse to believe in Jesus as Messiah. This is not that difficult to understand. Further evidence are found in: Gal. 3:28, Eph. 2:14, 1 Cor 3:16,17, Heb. 8:7-13, and Heb 9:11,12, to highlight but a few. Praise be to God for His deliverance thru our Savior LORD Jesus, who is the New Covenant, the New temple, the True Israel, into which we all press in. Thank you Mr.Gregg for your clear and methodical teaching of Gods Word, we pray for you and your ministry daily.
Now someone thats spirtually is decerned ,about these matters and eyes can see the deep things of God ,and yes thank u and Shalom .
A accurate, Scriptural interpertation and explanation of redemptive history.
Great lecture, thank you! ❤❤❤
When using the word 'all' will be saved, the 'all' is qualified. Jesus said 'all' that the father gave to me shall come to me... John 6:37.
"ALL Israel" are all saints in Christ, Jews and non-Jews. "The Israel of GOD". The nation changed, the temple changed, the priesthood changed, the law changed, the City of God changed.
Thank you for this insightful discussion
Steve's 12 part lecture series, "What Are We To Make of Israel?" thenarrowpath.com/audio/topical-lectures/what-are-we-to-make-of-israel/
"Blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fulness of the nations may be come in." Romans 11
Christ is Israel, we are Israel.
All believers past and future are the Israel of God!
Christ is the tree, we are the branches.
Christ is the true vine, we are the branches.
Christ is the husband , we are the bride.
Christ is the head, we are the body.
Revelation 21:1-8
1 Corinthians 13:8-12, "Now we see through a glass darkly but then face to face,"
At the final day, the day of resurrection and the great white throne judgment, then we will see fully. Revelation 20:10-15
Solid analysis.
That was an Amazing Message. You have done a Better job of explaining Ezek. 36-39 and Zech. 12-14 and how they related (mostly) to things that have already happened than anyone I have ever heard before.
I think that when we Replace Modern day (Rebellious) "Israel" with the True "Israel of God" (the Church), that THAT is what is being Spoken of (in relation to the mark of the beast governments "surrounding His people.
According to what He (and the apostle Paul) said, He will Only save those who come to Him, and or Call on Him to do so. And those who do will Not be Ashamed of Him. In other words, He will save "the remnant."
Romans 9:6-9 (and Gal. 3:16, 28-29) and many other passages make it clear that the True "Israel" is composed of Believers (in Yeshua / Jesus), and no others. @@jimbob1644
"In this way"...huge point!
Apply this to John 3:16
In Micah 4:6-7 we are told that when the Rapture happens (or the Gathering together of God's people at the end of the age --- from all over the earth) ... that He will "make the outcasts ... and the lame a remnant."
And in Isa. 49:3, Jesus Himself is referred to as "Israel."
Many Jews think that because Jesus didn't save the nation from Destruction, that THAT is why He is Not the Messiah (Jer. 23:5-6). What they Don't Realize is that we are Still Living in the Days of Messiah: simply because of Isa. 53:10 ... that His days will be Prolonged --- Forever --- because His body would "not see decay" because He would Rise from the Dead. Ps. 16:10 et al.
I also Agree with Everything you said, and want to Add that Acts 15:11 uses that same Greek Phrase (from Romans 11:26) that is Translated there as "in the same way" --- that Jews are saved, so are Gentiles: i.e. Through Faith in Jesus --- which is what You also said.
If they belong there, God will protect them. They wouldn't need an army and certainly the US Military.
Dear sir, thank soooo much❤your teachings are God's inspired and God sent... just one note (as raised in Catholic Europe) we had this urban legend, that until the end of the world - Jews and Arabs will be in conflict, so in other way around - the end will come, when Jews and Arabs finally stop conflict, and that was Catholics one of mythological believe concerning the end times, just to add, it's not only American evangelical belief ❤
*_God Bless_*
Thank you Steve.
Ezekiel 38 and 39 was fulfilled in the days of Esther. Haman was an Agagite or also known as a Gogite in the Septuigent. He came and attacked the returning Jews in hopes of plunder of livestock and goods. He and all his armies were destroyed. And it's even interesting that in Ezekiel 39 it is stated that his burial would be known as Hamon Gog. Haman and Hamon would have read exactly the same way because Hebrew had no vowels at this time.
All the pre-millennial dispensationalist I know are closed off to conversation
The fact that you have a small circle of influence does not decide this issue you should get out more often!
@@turkwelschExcuse me, but even well-known leaders of dispensationalism are extremely uncharitable to opposing eschatological views. So it’s not a matter of “getting out more often”.
@@martdavid84 oh get real that goes across the board for all religious discussions from whatever point of view!
you really do need to get out more often!
If you think you know so much about the leaders of dispensationalism, who are the leaders of the Mid acts movement?
You probably never even heard of it yet you think you’re an expert on your opposition!
weird thing to say on a video of gregg stating he used to be one.
@@turkwelsch Calm down, bro! No more coffee for you today, okay? Lol From your very first comment you’ve been swinging as if trying out for the UFC. This is a cordial discussion about disagreements we have with each other’s secondary doctrines; nothing more. Now, I happen to agree that dispensationalists are usually not open to even discussing another view and I think that can be proven by how dispensationalist leaders tend to label those who disagree with them as “antisemites”. If you don’t believe that is the case, OKAY. But I think it’s an obvious fact. NOBODY here has claimed to be an “expert” on anything so cut the drama. 😄
is there a place to get the handout referenced?
You actually do see the Jews say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.", during Jesus' ride into Jerusalem.
That was then...this is now. It's only a very small percentage of Jews that will say it and believe.
Hosanna!!!!!!!
I appreciate this Brother
When certain scriptures are ignored, there’s usually a reason.
Luke 24:44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: EVERYTHING must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
Dan 9:24 Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your
* people and your holy city
* to finish transgression,
* to put an end to sin,
* to atone for wickedness,
* to bring in everlasting righteousness,
* to seal up vision and prophecy and
* to anoint the Most Holy Place.
So, if I understand you correctly, these things are have not been fulfilled, and will be 2000 years in the future?
~~~THE BOOKS ARE SEALED~~~
Daniel 12:4 "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
Daniel 12:9 He said, "Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.
~~~THE BOOKS ARE OPENED~~~
Revelation 22:10 And he *said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.
I see eschatology as “already but not yet”. Things have happened that happened before and will happen again . History repeating itself as they say. The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 a.d. was but a foretaste of that which would come. My conviction is the REAL third temple are those Born Again of Yahs Spirit built by Him , His New Jerusalem.
There has always been a remnant and God has remained faithful to the remnant. " If there are but five will you preserve the people" ultimately God remains faithful because the promise to Abraham. The problem with this school of though is that these people don't realize that God keeps his promises because God is faithful not the people and it is God who preserves a remnant.. The promise was kept after Nebachenezer and that same promise holds today and tomorrow.
I pray this man switches to the kjv
Other than that, great preaching
He was in KJV!
How would you interpret Ezekiel 40-48 ?
Steve's teaching on Ezekiel 40-48: thenarrowpath.com/audio/verse-by-verse/ezekiel/09_0000_Ezekiel_40-48_(Potential_New_Temple).mp3
If Jesus is the King of Kings. And if Israel is His Kingdom. If He is the heir to David's throne - the Lion of Judah. If I believe all these things about Him and that He died for my sins so I may be made pure & holy & perfect.... then Jesus is my King & I'm a citizen of His Kingdom. Which by simple deductive logic means I am Abraham's SEED by The Blood of Jesus & The New Covenant. But the vast majority of Christian SEMENary school taught ministers say replacement theology is wrong. But after 79AD, even the TEMPLE was replaced by a Temple not built by hands. The Sons of God (Genesis 6:4) were also replaced by the saints grafted in by their Faith & the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords.
I think your strength training is paying off too. Your form looks tighter and smoother! Keep up the good work! It is paying off.
Speak to me as an unsaved man and tell me what I must do to be saved. How you present the gospel will show me what the real dangers are in the world today!
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Thank you, I do know the answer. I presented it as a rhetorical question to the uploader seeing i perceived that he was including works into his gospel. he didnt have the guts to answer what specific things he turned from to be saved!@@jimbob1644
@@jimbob1644 You obviously aren't remotely interested in the truth. All you've done is comment with a bunch of lies and hit-and-run at hominems without even attempting to interact with the topic of the presentation, not give scriptural arguments for anything.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What have you to loose from reading the/any Bible cover to cover. Only then will you know if you are saved. No man can save you. Its an internal belief, something hits you that creation is true and we are loved and cherished. No one apart from God knows your true heart.
Pastor Steve : is possible you can do a video lesson on Isaac Vs Ishmael: Jews vs Arabs ? This seems to be one of the major tenets of Dispensationalism and they rally around it.
Is there some kind of relationship between synagogue and gog
You mentioned the date 539 bc in reference to when Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild. That doesn't make sense since the 69 weeks from the decree to His baptism and anointing by the Holy Spirit would put the decree on or about 457 or 456 bc. I've heard other preachers also refer to 539 bc. But somebody must have the dates of Cyrus' reign messed up. I have also heard others say that Artaxerxes or some other ruler issued a decree but that would clearly contradict Isaiah 44. Can you help clear up this confusion?
The recognized date of Cyrus' decree was 539 B.C. There were additional decrees made by Artaxerxes in 457 and 445 B.C., respectively. Different scholars have chosen different decrees (among the three) as their starting points for the 70 weeks. The decree of Cyrus seems too early by about 80 years.
Because of their commitment to the Cyrus date, some scholars have suggested that our whole dating scheme for pre-Christian history after Daniel's time has been miscalculated, due to a mistake made by Ptolemy in the second century. All modern dating conventions follow Ptolemy's dating, but Anstey, Mauro, and others suggest that Ptolemy estimated the length of the Persian Empire as eighty years too long-which would require the recalibration of every established date for events prior to the time of Alexander the Great.
Its the decree to rebuild Jerusalem AND its walls. Artaxerxes 445 BC is the only one. Gabriel was VERY clear about the walls to Daniel.
Thank you Steve and Scott for your replies. Steve, your comment made me dig into Ptolemy - who is this guy? From what I can see on Wikipedia and Britannica, he developed a model of the universe with the earth at its center. Hmmm. Not intending to sound sarcastic, but really? We are basing our dating of Biblical events on the work of a second century astronomer who is referenced in Wikipedia as having work full of errors, miscalculations, and who is labelled as "the most successful fraud in scientific history"? It may require the "recalibration of every established date for events prior to the time of Alexander the Great" as you say Steve, and I'm no scientist with the ability to accomplish that daunting task, but maybe some smart guy who is a Christian should help us out here.
And Scott, I looked at the 445 BC date - adding 483 years to that gets me to 38 AD which is not a date which lines up with anything which was prophesied in Daniel 9:24.
I guess I may be completely looney toons, but I think I'll stick with what the Bible says. I believe Jesus was baptized and anointed in 26 AD. Subtracting 483 from that date takes me to 457 BC. That may be 80 years away from the generally accepted date of the Cyrus decree, but the infallibility of scripture forces me to ignore any other conclusion. In the end, it makes not a bit of difference to salvation and walking with Christ and His desire that none should perish but all come to repentance.
Thanks again to both of you guys. Blessings.
He mentioned that in regards to them going back to their land, from promises in Ezekiel. If I am not mistaken. I assume if he was speaking on Dan 9 he would use 457.
Relistening a second time now and will take notes.
Thank you Steve. Is there a way that I can get a copy of the notes for this series on the Middle East crisis in a dangerous of dispensationalism? As always, God bless you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
If you look at channel notes, this is not his official page. Official page however is listed so you can find him.
I’m convinced that dispensationalism is so popular because it sells books, and fills seats.
25For I know that my Redeemer lives,
and at the last he will stand upon the earth. I got a question, is the kingdom for the second coming of our Lord Jesus, and the marriage super of the Lamb us the bride groom the saints that come with Jesus? Glory to God in the highest for sending his one and only Son, blessings
Does anyone know if one can one be a partial preterist and still be pre-millenial and/or post-trib; or are these mutually exclusive?
There are a few people that are partial-preterist Premill, such as Duncan McKenzie and J. Stuart Russell.
I personally don't think it's a good teaching as it is closer to Full preterism than partial preterism. We have seen Historic Premillenianism to be more of an accepted view in the past. (A.B. Simpson, Charles Spurgeon, Henry Grattan Guineas)
@@Ldgreggbell Can I ask what you mean by historic premil?
@@ruthmayforth5933 Historic premillennialism maintains a simpler and more ancient perspective on the sequence of Christ's return and the millennium. Church fathers like Irenaeus, and Justin Martyr would've held to this view.
There are a few things that often fit the Historic Premillenianist view. (A) That Rev20:1-6 is a literal interpretation for a millenium kingdom. The millenium kingdom happens after the second coming. (B) There is a post-tribulation rapture. (C) People will look at revelation and make certain passages fit the history of the world. (D) Most parts of revelation are treated as apocalyptic literature and therefore are symbolic.
Seventh Day Adventist are also historic premillenianist but they're infamous for predicting when the return of Christ was to be. This was due to how they fit certain history onto revelation.
I'm sympathetic to this position and we have early church fathers that held similar views to this. I'm currently stuck between an Amillenial futurist, and this one.
I've been listening to Steve Gregg, and reading G.K. Beale, and George Ladd lately. G.K. Beale helps contextualised Idealism and symbolic Christian views on Revelation. George Ladd is also quite good from what I have read so far.
Great teaching ! Thanks
My only question… wasn’t the house of Israel scattered during the Assyrian conquest and the house of Judah during he Babylonian conquest?
yes
Thanks for the reply Steve, so if that is the case then the return of “Judah” via Cyrus to the promised land couldn’t be the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecies considering the northern kingdom did not come back. I believe Jesus’s statements in Matthew 15:24 backs this up. Which would mean those fulfillments would come at the resurrection. Also it seems that Ezekiel 36 speaks directly on this as the house of Israel’s return supported by the prophecy of the new covenant in Jer 31:31.
Again. I have LOVED your content!
Thoughts?
After the Gog Magog war God pours out his Spirit on the House of Israel . Ezekiel 39:29 How did this happen in past history or on the day of Pentecost@@wayfaringfarmer2724
@@wayfaringfarmer2724 food for thought,I hope you get a reply
@@wayfaringfarmer2724 was a remnant of the northern kingdom of Israel ( Ephraim)joined with Judah ( as the one stick prophesied in Ezekiel 37) when it came back to the land ?
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How about: Isaiah 11:11 indicates there would be a day when God would raise his hand “a second time” to gather the children of Israel to their homeland. Could that be referring to when the Jews returned to Jerusalem at Pentecost?
Great teaching from a man with a deep understanding of scripture, an excellent expository. I study the Bible myself and no longer follow the dispensational model.
Personally, I now subscribe to the historic teachings of Christianity & all the early protestant reformers concerning their assertions about the Biblical Antichrist - the Roman Catholic Church and office of the papacy. Modern Christianity has completely divorced itself from the historic record and the teachings of the historic church on this very important principle.
Despite the modern churches dastardly failing on this point, one can thankfully read works by modern journalists that verify the Bible's teaching about Antichrist, that ‘great whore’ responsible for 'all those slain on the earth' Revelations 18.
Paul Williams, in his book Operation Gladio, describes how the CIA is an organisation intimately linked to and controlled by the Vatican. The CIA created a billion-dollar heroin trade in southeast Asia to finance its operations and when that area could no longer produce the poppies due to drought they chose Afghanistan as the next location to produce the drug. To protect their interests in Afghanistan, the CIA recruited, financed, and trained several groups. One of those groups was called ISIS, another group was Hezbollah, and another group they funded and armed was Hamas.
Paul Williams, a former Roman Catholic, lays out the information very clearly in his book - that Hamas was created and funded by the CIA and still are. The CIA (Catholic Intelligence Agency) is under the control of the Vatican. Ultimately, Hamas is a Roman Catholic entity doing the bidding of the CIA.
You have to get this folks - All Roads Lead Back To Rome, the early Christian church agreed that the following biblical characters: The Man of Sin written about by Paul, the Little Horn by Daniel, and John's Woman That Rides The Beast. All these characters are the one and same entity and their prophecies are fulfilled to the letter in the historical record by the Roman Catholic church - to the letter folks.
Avro Manhattan, a great journalist, describes in his books how the Roman Catholic Church was responsible for bringing Hitler to power and how it was also responsible for the atrocities and genocide in Bosnia, and the Vietnam War. David Yallop, Avro Manhattan, Paul Williams, and many more independent journalists have written extensively on this topic and their accounts are uniform with Bible prophecy. You won't hear this information in modern evangelical churches, they’re too busy espousing dispensational nonsense. All roads lead back to Rome that is the truth.
Though I am not a 7th-day Adventist, which the presenter obviously is - the presentation he gives about Rome's links to Hamas is excellent, see the link below:
Pressing Issues: Israel, Hamas, and Response to Doug Batchelor-with Bill Hughes and Kody Morey - RUclips
Brethen, with the Word of God not speaking of a second coming. . . . seeing what it is and isn't can reveal the language all the way back to the old Covenant.
DAY OF THE LORD
Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near,
Even the day of the Lord is near;
It will be a day of clouds,
Isaiah 13:9 behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
Cruel, with fury and burning anger,
To make the land a desolation;
Zephaniah 1:14 Near is the great day of the Lord,
Near and coming very quickly;
Malachi 4:1-“For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze,” says the Lord of hosts, “so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.”
Joel 2:30- I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth,
Blood, fire and columns of smoke.
“The sun will be turned into darkness
And the moon into blood
Before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.
Acts 2:19-20
‘And I will grant wonders in the sky above
And signs on the earth below,
Blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke.
‘The sun will be turned into darkness
And the moon into blood,
Before the great and glorious day of the Lord shall come.
Matthew 24:30-31
And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory
1 Corinthians 1:8
who will also confirm you to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Philippians 1:6
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3
For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
2 Peter 3:11-12
Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,
en.
7 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
Revelation 6:15-Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
Good teaching brother, some New Testament teachers have said because Romans chp 11 until the fullness of the Gentiles come in...that God stopped dealing with Israel, that v 11- 28, concerning the Gospel verses Covenant remnant...that God will deal with Israel after the Church is raptured...that Jews couldn't be saved...many have had to walk that back...this is what they call replacement theology...there's no such thing.
Spirit poured out in the former rain on Pentecost, Acts 2, and will again in a latter rain at the end time?? I am re-looking at all this after 40 years in church.. My paradigm shifting friends.
Matthew 19:28 " When the Son of Man sits on His Throne - you will sit on 12 thrones Judging the 12 tribes of Israel " . Does mr Gregg think the 12 Apostles will Judge the Christians in the Olive tree in the Millenium ? .
You'll probably find out here: www.matthew713.com/search/index.php?keywords=12+thrones+judging&topic=_none
If any man speak, let him speak
as an oracle of God.
Let God be true,
and every man a liar.
Huge responsibility to be speaking as "Thus saith the Lord", but not by the unction of Gods Holy Spirit of truth, who leads Gods elect into all truth! Wood, hay and stubble is all we have to offer on our own goings.
1:29:23 ‘I’m not Jewish but I am Israel’ doesn’t make sense if you don’t think Israel is ethnic. He already stated the name ‘Israel’ is used in many ways but he regularly defaults to ethnicity. As Paul states a Jew is a Jew in heart not who your daddy is.
My Brother is dispensationalists he listens to Dr Tony Evans and he is not open to anything other than his false teachings about end times please pray for my brother 😢✝️🙏
Recommend playing these videos on at least 1.5 speed, this guy is long winded and never really gets to his points.
One of the features overlooked by the adherents of dispensationalism is its claim that certain prophetic events are yet to be fulfilled in the future which implies that Jesus cannot return at this very moment because these so-called events have not yet taken place. A second claim is that God saved man in different ways at different times. This claim by Darby contradicts the statement in Hebrews that says that nothing ever pleased God except faith (Hebrews 11:6). Some dispensational teachers have recognized this problem and are trying to distance themselves from this heretical view by contradicting Darby. And many dispensational teachers contradict each other to the point of violent accusations.
And what about Zecharaiah 13:6?
I have found that when we get twisted up in these thoughts, they always originate when we jump from theology into philosophy (man's thinking). You can pick out this problem that causes all the contention in the church when you can declare something and then say (or think), "It Only Stands to Reason." I call them IOSTRS.
When we pit one sin-cursed man's thoughts against another sin-cursed man's thoughts, we get a mess. Once you are tuned into this, you will find this contention disappears.
Never depend on Google, Wiki, etc., or any other mainstream stats to base your theology on.
Never go to "church fathers" for your theology... these writings are fabricated and filled with catholic heresies.
Also, we love to belong to a group so the temptation is to run into the arms of reformed theology which has just as many or more problems with their system... You have to pick the diamonds (Biblical truth) out of the manure of each of these "systems". It's a minefield.
1:28:19 ‘the remnant became a new nation but they are Israel ‘ huh? Not hating on this guy just highlighting things that don’t make sense. Sure sounds like a replacement to me.!
@@tedbastwock3810 if the law is a type why will it be written on our hearts at the resurrection and we will never sin again , see Jer31. also Israel is one nation those who follow the God of Abraham Issac and Israel.
Also EZ 37.14 addresses what I believe is the orhthodox objection to the state of Israel, in that it says "I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land." They believe that only God can re4store them to the land. It is sacrilegious for man to do it. That makes sense. I'd heard that opinion before and when you read it, it sounded exactly like what I'd heard referenced. Also the covenant would explain how many believe God would not acknowledge a non-religious Israel...
Jeremiah said so no longer will be out of Egypt but out of the world where God drove them out to the land.
Regarding the war of Magog.
You choose to take the years and the fire and brimstone fivuratively saying that is the more reasonable approach. Is it really? Would years have been different lengths in the intertestamental period from now? No significant difference. Therefore no reason for God to use figurative language, He could have said seven days or weeks if that is what He meant. Is fire and brimstone so different today if it were to fall from heaven that we need to speak figuratively in order for people to understand? Again, no! My premise is this, God is a good communicator and so He always uses literal terms familiar to His original target audience if possible! If there are details that are not comprehendable to His audience He chooses to use the closest term in order to communicate as clearly as possible. Weaponry is something that changes a lot over time! So in any portion of prophesy speaking of battles in the distant future, God is forced to use the terms of weapons they are familiar with in order for them to understand that we are talking about a war here with lots of heavily armed enemies that God will defeat to save Israel. If He were to say tank or Ak 47or helicopter people would be left wondering if they understood anything at all that He was talking about. So not wanting to launch into a prophetic explanation of what future weapons will be like God goes figurative. So, I assert that fivurative weapons maintains God's goal of good communication, allowing us to better understand when this war has or hasnt been fulfilled! There is no ancient battle that fits this description leading us to conclude it hasnt happened yet! If we take as figurative the fire and brimstone we are left trying to force this description into some ancient battle and when nothing fits we have to punt to mystery . This calls into question the value of revealing anything about it at all. Why would God waste pages writing about things so vaguely that even after they happen it is impossible to really confirm that that was it? I wouldnt consider God a good communicator in that instance!
The Jews in Israel today cannot trace any of their ancestors to any of the 12 tribes of Israel. There were 12 of them. They claim the term Jew came from Judah, but there are 11 more tribes. Leslie, how could somebody trace their ancestry to specifically Judah. I think this whole state of Israel is based on shotty ancestry claims. This is something that most people have been thinking all along, but don’t want to admit. I know with the 23 me ancestry testing the Ashkenazi Jews are always under European that right there alone should tell you who these people are. No offense to Eastern European Jews, but those are their people.
Here’s a thing to be wary of my friend. I have challenged Steve about his presentation of the gospel, and he has not given it because he knows that he will not say that it is a free gift without any works on our own, because that would be a promise of God, that is unconditional
If you are wise, you will steer clear of this teaching
I doubt you have ever communicated with Steve. Wow, you posted a comment on this video 32 minutes ago, and someone who has priority over responding to social media comments hasn't answered you immediately, so you just make up lies? This truly shows your character.
The condition is that we come to Jesus Christ Humbly, ask Him to come into our lives, and turn from sin, and be changed. That is a condition, we don’t just get that automatically. It is a free gift, but the gift is not just given to us if we don’t ask for it, and obey the word of Jesus Christ, and turn from sin. I know that Father calls us , And if we respond to him by turn to Jesus Christ, would you get that gift. So I am just stating that is not unconditional. The unconditional part comes in as you could be the worst sinner, Paul was a pretty bad sinner, and he came to Jesus Christ. Saying that anyone can be saved, if they turn to Jesus Christ, and turn away from sin, and except Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Proclaim that Jesus Christ is God. I hope that helps you.
@@freedomtruth3671 which sins did you turn from to be accepted by God?
Please tell so that I may do the same!
You said the same thing on the previous video, but I don’t believe you. Primarily because in 20 years of listening to Steve Gregg teach I have heard him say exactly that hundreds of times. He’s very clear. One of the things I love about Steve is that he always says what he thinks without consideration of what other people might think about it.
@@Narcil think for yourself,stop being a follower of men!
Steve,
You say that there are no verses that teach Israel's return to their land in the last days? Hosea 3 which you actually quoted in part 1 of this series. The entire chapter is a quick overview of Israel' post exilic history. They willbe without a king for many days! They never had another king after the death of Zedekiah! The partial return under Cyrus did not fulfill this chapter. In the last days they will seek David their king and come trembling back to the Lord! Hosea 3 directly says plainly what you say the Bible never says!
"The Old Testament is obsolete; the promises were fulfilled." That is what I believe although I guess I am a dispensationalist. My PCA pastor, however, would not agree.
The restoration from the exile of the house of Israel (Ezek 36:21-32) is fulfilled under, in and through the New Covenant IN CHRIST, the One New Man, Adam 2. Heb 8:10 and 10:16, 22, Acts 2.
The house of Israel was scattered by Assyria in 721 BC (10 northern lost tribes). The house of Judah (tribes Judah, Benjamin and Levi) was exiled into Babylon in 605 BC and returned to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple and the city after 70 years captivity. The restoration of the Nation of Israel is the re-union of the two separated houses under One Shepherd, Jesus Christ. Ezek 34:23 and 37:15-28, John 10:16.
Another part most are missing is that those people are Khazars, they're NOT Jews by bloodline. They're Ashkenazi from the line of Japheth.
I can't find anything in the NT about a supposed conflict between Isaac and Ishmael ( as I was always taught this heresy). It seems to go hand in hand with Jewish exceptionalism and looks down on Arabs.
God gave Arabs Arabia Mt Sinai and God Gave Jews Mt Zion /Jerusalem . Galatians 4:21 . People who only use the NT arent playing with the full deck . Its like playing poker with only the picture cards , you think you have a good hand but you are only fooling yourself
5 minutes in i think you stated Jacob is a jew
Jacob is not a jew
A jew is only of the tribe of Judah
Even Abraham is not a Jew
True. If Steve said that, he misspoke.
We have problems with the use of the word “Jew”, it’s become convoluted, in our modern world, where Hebrews, Israelites, Judaites, And Jews, all mean the same thing but that depends on the context.
But as to the word “Jew”, it was translated from the Greek word “loudaios” And seems to have been loosely used, according to Strongs Concordance, Greek Lexicon, to describe both Jews and early Christians, and not only folks from Judah.
I think what we have now, is our modern use of the word creeping into discussions of scripture, where a better job of distinguishing between the different ancient cultures, needs to be done.
Going back and looking how the words were used in the Greek would go a long way in doing this.
steve, Ive watched many of your past videos and agree with you 100%, Im just getting ready to watch this video and the one that proceded it, but I want to ask you right now, do you condemn israels cutting off water, food, electricity to 2.3 million palastinians in an attempt to starve them to death AND israels bombing and killing of 10,000+ palastinians along with bombing churches, ambulances and hospitals? as I go through many christian channels I see most christians simply dont care at all about the palastinians and NONE will condemn israel for doing these evil acts. will YOU condemn israel for thier evil acts of genocide?
You can ask Steve a question by calling into his radio program, The Narrow Path. See www.thenarrowpath.com.
thanks!@@SteveGreggVideos
Do you condemn Muhammads command for Muslims to fight the Jews until they are destroyed ? Real Christians dont care who rules Jerusalem "Our Kingdom is not of this world" . We did not support the Jews in their war with the Romans 2000 years ago , we dont support Israel today but we wont be fighting the Jewish state because God sent them back in 1948 as the Jewish bible said they would return and all the nations will be gathered against them . Zechariah chapter 12 and 14
Repent and believe ALL that Lord Jesus has said: "in the world you will have tribulation. ... then shall there be great tribulation ... watch ... be ready."
I hope Steve Gregg addresses Isaiah 66:8 at which many claim that was fulfilled when Israel became a nation in one day in 1948. I filnd this claim ridiculous and using Isaiah 66:8 has no reference to 1948. Hope STEVE mentions it on his next video
Thank SO much for "studying" to not only show yourself "approved unto God" but also that you "may have to have to give to those who have need. 👃😉
If we DON'T study, how are we going to "rightly divide" anything.
It's like parting your hair correctly: if you want to do it right, you got to look in the mirror.
Want to "rightly divide the "Word of truth", (2 Timothy 2:15) need to spend some TIME there, not just 4 or 5 minutes before dinner.
Su intención es buena pero las profecías restauracionistas no se refieren a el retorno de la cautividad de Babilonia, sino al Mundo Venidero, incluida la Resurrección.
2 hours and 50 minutes of teaching later, I am still waiting for the verse by verse exegesis promised in part 1. Not one reference to the Hebrew or Greek text. No mention of Daniel's 70th week. Jesus fulfilled the law. His grace and salvation for me is not dependent on my ability to keep my end of the covenant but on His ability to keep His. Grace alone to the Jew and the Gentile in the face of our rebellion is the good news. The great tribulation is called Jacob's trouble. Not the Church's trouble. The church is not Jacob. The Church's persecution and the persecution of the Jews during the time of Jacob's trouble are unrelated.
This is just wrong, the speaking of coming back is clearly in the future, as there is NO time in history when "all the nations of the earth" have surrounded Jerusalem... Never happened, thus those predictions in Ezekiel and Psalms MUST be future... Its obvious.. The explanation you gave is just opinion, and, in my opinion anyway, does not fir with scripture..
Its become clear to me, Israel, as an independent nation, is the key of the end times. And, this does not compete with the Church in anyway
The land comes with conditions. It’s possible the current occupants, as an organized entity, could be displaced and regathered yet again, with Christ appearing or not appearing in the interim.The second coming may or may not be when the land is occupied by a so-called State. It was the first time, although it wasn’t an independent Jewish country, being ruled by Greeks first, then Romans.
Torturing the evidence causes it to confess to anything.
This is why you must understand Daniel's 70th week. The nation of Israel is lost at this time. But at the midpoint of the tribulation, The abomination of desolation will take place. The people that flee jerusalem, Will be saved. This is why second Timothy 215. Says if you don't learn how to rightly divide you will end up being ashamed, Basically you Will make a fool of yourself.
Steve will explain Daniel's 70th week to you ruclips.net/video/QbTmTEVk8WE/видео.htmlsi=tbxOtiyXKKTl8Mgo.
It's quite clear in Daniel 9 there is a time line and everything he said would happen has happened. Its called 70 weeks the 69 weeks is up to the Messiah ministry. Thats the easy math. Then the 70th week the Messiah was cut off during his 1 week or 7 years. He got people to destroy the temple and cease the sacrifices, which was seen by the generation that knew the Messiah. It also says that Israel will always be desolate. The new Jerusalem is being prepared In heaven for the end times not a brick building down here built by man. I can't find anything you have said in scriptures.
Read Daniel 9:24-27 in the Septuagint translation . It supports everything you say except that Israel will always be Desolate . " at the end of the age an end shall be put to the desolationa"@@foreveryoung5
2nd Timothy 2:15. It says, "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth."
The key to evaluating what this means is to look at the original language of 2nd Timothy 2:15. And this is what we find. The word that is translated "rightly dividing" in the Old and New King James versions, and in several others, is a single word in the Greek. It is a form of the Greek verb orthotomeo.
In New Testament times, orthotomeo was primarily a civil engineering term. It was used, for example, as a road building term. The idea of the word was to cut straight, or to guide on a straight path. The idea is to cut a roadway in a straight manner, so that people who will travel over that road can arrive at their destination directly, without deviation. Orthotomeo was also used as a mining term. It meant to drill a straight mine shaft.
It literally means the opposite of "divide."
well....we are all gonna find out....
It's all about destroying the Abrahamic religions. It's been a long time in the making.
Yes regarding God's "judgement" and requirements of Israel. There is only One Way. Questions? Jacob and Esau? Zionism? Theodore Herzl's Political Zion as opposed to God's measured Land of Zion - Israel? Jesus was a Jew (mother) born in Bethlehem. And to Israel and the Mount of Olives, He will rerurn. Revelation 1:8.
Jeremiah 30 tells it all…
With John the Baptist, the old covenant ended and the law, writings and prophets, all prophecies about the Lord were fulfilled in Him. Luke 24. As the Lord second coming approaches, the battle is about the Christian teaching. Jesus Christ from Nazareth is the Father image and Truth embodied. We all are His witness. Israel us a man man country who needs Jesus blood. Yhey do know withouth blood there is no forgivness of sin.
John 14.6
Im just gobsmacked at the number of people who come on here just to argue. It's truly sad and pathetic...some people learn NOTHING and really are like their father satan...
Here's something you did not cover
Read Revelation 3:9 and 10 and answer these 2 questions.
Who are the people who say they are Jews and are not and who are the
people Jesus loves and whom he considers to be the
true Jews? (rev 2:9 and 3:9)
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they
are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I
will make them to come and
worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 3:10 Because thou (the true jews whom Jesus loves in the previous verse) hast kept the word of my patience, I also will
keep
thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Are The people whom Jesus loves written in Rev. 3:9 the same group of people Jesus is addressing in Rev. 3:10 (The church of
Philidelphia/Christians)?
he is not a Jew which is one outwardly in the flesh, but inwardly. Born of the Holy spirit of God.
That’s a rather mysterious verse that, in my personal opinion, could apply to Jesus’ time just as it could apply today.
Have you looked to John 8 for a clue?
They answered him, “We be Abraham’s seed and have never been in bondage to anyone” “how can you say, we will be made free”
John 8: 33
“I know the you ARE Abraham’s seed, but you seek to kill me, because my word has no place in you” John 8:37
“If you were Abraham’s children, then you would do the works of Abraham” John 8:39
“You are of your Father the devil and the desires of your father, you will do” John 8:44
Here, The Pharisees (Jews) claim to be the seed of Abraham and Jesus acknowledges that indeed they are descendants of Abraham. But because they do not do the works of Abraham and, do not love Jesus, who was sent by God, he calls them the children of the devil.
The works of Abraham is faith, and the greatest commandment of Jesus was to love God and love one another, which Jesus calls them out on both counts.
Since that passage in Revelation applies to Jews, maybe the passages I recited in John will help you to better understand what and who, he was talking about.
@@williamcarr3976 In Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 Jesus talks about "Jews" not about Abraham's seed. The difference is mentioned by Paul in Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
On the other hand, there are certain promises made to the "Jews" ie Davidic Covenant, God did not make a covenant with the church regarding an everlasting Kingdom. This covenant was given to a Jew. Mosaic law was given to Jews.The Jews are still under the law because they did not receive the Gospel. Paul says that accursed is the man who, being under the law, does not follow it. Clearly the Jewish people have suffered in a manner consistent with being cursed, particularly in the 20th century. It seems to me that in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Jesus is talking about the replacement theology of some who say they are Jews, but are not. They conflate the covenants. The Church that says it has replaced Israel was responsible for the holocaust on Jews. It was called "the third reich" and was supposed to last 1000 years, and had the blessing of the Papacy and some protestant churches in Germany. The Papacy and most protestant churches are responsible for keeping people ignorant of dispensations. The modern nation of Israel was born after world war II, the Jewish nation had paid for it's iniquity from Ezekiel 4 and Leviticus 26. They only paid 70 years after Babylonian captivity. 360 years were left. Multiplied by 7 from the time the captivity ended in approx. 537 BC leads to the end of word war II (when you convert to gregorian years)