Rough Country 3.5" suspension lift Install on a 2019 Toyota Tacoma OR
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2022
- This kit was pretty easy to put in and took less than a day to install. I like the ride so much better than the stock Bilsteins.
No blocks
No spacers
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5 Lakes Garage
PO Box 821
Holly Springs, NC 27540 USA
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I’ve been looking for a detailed video on this kit for weeks and I finally found this one. You’ve convinced me, I’m buying this kit
Glad we can help. Currently shooting a video on some DIY Cat Protection. Coming out pretty good so far but taking longer. I just keep telling myself that I am saving $$. Stay tuned and see how it comes out.
Good luck on the install. it was really easy. Only a few things that where annoying.
Awesome video man, not many speak on all the issues when installing a kit, thanks and cheers
You Bet. We try. :) I would have to say after some time with the lift. the rear Leaf Springs squeak a bit. Lube only last but so long. Thanks for the watch.
My RC 3.5” lift arrived a couple of days ago and I’ll be installing it soon, but I also ordered a spacer kit to lower the carrier bearing just a smidge and most importantly an axel bushing for the drivers side to replace the needle bearing. Your full droop bind is most likely caused by the shorter axel and the “known weak” needle bearing. East coast gear and supply has the remedy. They claim a life of half a million miles. I’m gonna find out. Anyway thanks for the video and I hope your boxes that extend your Jack stands have some ribs installed internally.
thanks for the comment and good luck on your install. I do plan on replacing the bearing in the T case when i regear in which i hope will be soon. The jack stand extenders are 4x6 solid blocks that are wrapped . i hope to get taller real jack stands or a lift. One day.
Carrier bearing is an easy one.
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Thanks and good luck on your install.
I like kelly tires and get load range E for suv's and trucks. Do not get copper tires. I get fatter tires for lighter vehicles and skinny tires on the heavy wagoneer. The xj is light and floats the wagoneer sinks. I am in the snow, slush, ice, and spring melt mud. I don't like big gaps in tread on tires. Big gaps seem to pick up more road hazards in them like screws and sharp rocks. The wife got a screw in the side wall of new kelly tires. I plugged it and was a couple months before we got a new tire on it. The plug held even in the side wall. My old red zj jeep ate a set of coppers in one year.
Thanks for responding. I knew I could count on you. :) Definitely E rating. So no Coopers. Was it just the wear speed on them? I am sure you saw in the video that it is January and it was in the 70s, not much snow down here but I do see myself in some mud.
So coopers are still on the list but just dropped a lot of spots.
I prefer c load if I can find them, e is too heavy in my experience
My buddy and i both bought the 3.5 lift with the cainsters and new leaf springs. FedEx also lost one of his springs. I think FedEx has some kind of side job hustling leaf springs on the black mrkt
Maybe all the drivers have a lifted Tacoma. And they get their lifts one piece at a time. It is amazing how many people are missing pieces.
Crazy.
Thanks for the watch.
The 3rd gen. Tacoma come from the factory with approximately 1" over the 2nd gen. you added 3.5" that is too much lift for the stock suspension. Watch your inner CV boots if you see any signs of the fins making contact you can start planning on replacing boots in a few months. It's amazing that RC makes a 3.5" lift, it's almost like their designer have no clue about these IFS suspension.
Great video! Good luck with your wheels and tire selection. Drive it like you stole it!
Thanks BT. I am happy with it so far and Yes I have been keeping an eye out for the boot failure. I have some on order already. :) With any mod like this, you create a domino affect. After the lift and some 285s. Re-Gear just went a lot higher on the list as well as stronger steering. But the list is long and will take them one by one. Keep tuning in for the first boot change. :) Thanks again.
@@5LakesGarage before you re-gear try the pedal commander or a Tune. These trucks have more than enough power to move 33” tires no problem. I’m not sure what you are referring to about the steering? Have you had your alignment done? 285’s are barely larger than the stock tires, these trucks are more than capable of handling the size increase. Good luck!
Since I have a manual, it would be better to have some low end Torque. Which the Tacoma is lacking. If you have an Auto then the can get into the power better with a high torque converter. I have the OVtune on it right now. it helped a lot. I want to look at the pedal monster from banks. Will see which one I go with. The steering would be around that the stock tires were only around 41 lbs and the 285 that I went with are about 15 lbs heavier. I can feel it in the wheel. it should be fine but I like upgrades. :) Marlen Crawler has a kit that has a larger rack and tie rod ends. I still have to investigate more and also see what it can do off road. One day I will get out there.
I have the geolander mt on my 4runner they make noise but ride like a dream
Nice. I went with the Duratrac. I like the aggressive look but I get a bit nervous in the wet. When I get new tires down the line I might get larger wheels as well. For two reasons. Less sidewall deflection and maybe I can put larger brakes. Since putting the on the lift and tires I feel that the brakes could use an upgrade. Just keep pushing that snowball down hill. :)
Did you measure the rear before and after installing the leaf springs? I'm curious to know the actual lift increase in the rears.
Went back into the video and it was around 2ish" from the bump stop to the frame stock. After it settled a bit it is around 5ish" The lift was supposed to be 3.5" not sure where the .5" went. :) It has settled a little bit. I have a little bit of rubbing with the 285s. I hope to get to a fix for that tomorrow. Should only be some minor trimming.
Awesome vid, wish you made this before I put mine on. So far I like the setup way more than when I had spacers and blocks. Definitely feels more comfortable than the stiffness you get up front with spacers. I had small vibration from 19 to 22mph, put on carrier bearing drop but didn't help at all. I just went back and checked all the torque on the bolts after doing research for the right specs. So I guess toyotas spec for the u- bolts were around 35 ftlb but rough country's recommended 75 to 90ftlb, I chose 85 and no more vibes! It was the only thing that bugged me when I got to those speeds. I am still running on stock wheels/tires and took it to prairie city in California, couldn't do the extreme obstacles yet but it did great. Lol. Looking forward to your new tire selection as I myself don't know which ones to pick. I want 35s but that needs more work done. 33s would work but not as beefy as I'd like. SMH. Hope to see your new setup and updates on upgrades.
Sorry for the poor timing. :) I plan on doing my re-torq this weekend. I hope. I was thinking about going with the leaf spring wedge to start. the Vibration is getting annoying. I have an update on progress. Hit the playlist and get them all. :)
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got my kit on the way right now I went with the M1 monotube shocks, not sure why but I did anyway lol. Is there a reason you didn't do the 2 inches in the back? Just curious I did a 3 inch lift on an old dodge 1500 a few years ago and dint put the blocks just cause I didn't feel like it but I was just curious.
I went with the same lift in the rear mostly due to loading the rear with gear and towing. The leveling does look better if you do not plan on putting a lot of weight in the rear. My leafs do squeak a bit. A lot of people say that the RC lift is worse then OEM. I say Na Na. I really did not like the stock setup. I still rock the 3.5" lift on 285s. There are a few other mods that needed to be done with my setup. I really like the bumper I put together. I just wish I had time to finish it. :) Good luck and thanks for the watch.
Just installed this lift on my tacoma yesterday. Did you have a rake after install or was front and rear level, and did it settle in the rear for you? Thinking of removing 1 leaf from the pack. Thanks!
The rack is was not bad once it settled. I think it is pretty level. I am a little curious on how it will sit once I finish putting all the other stuff on. Bumpers, rack. etc. Might have to evaluate a little later.
@@5LakesGarage I ended up removing the overload spring in the pack yesterday sits level and ride is actually smoother. I don’t plan on carrying heavy loads in the bed. Hope yours sits level and rides good with the extra stuff! Thanks for the reply man!
I'm doin Yokohama's mt ,,. Did you check on the front axle vibration thing? I put the same lift on my 2014
Sorry I have not. I have the needle bearing bushing replacement on the my list. The one From EAST Coast Gear. I think they are around $60 and the tool is about $50. Just need to find time to do it. Enjoy Yokohama's mt. Sorry I could not help you on this just yet.
so if you walk around truck look at your leaf springs is the writing upside down on one side just like my front shocks if you look one side you can see stickers from front but the other side is facing backwards
I will check tomorrow. It is a bit dark right now. The leaf springs can go on either side so I would imagine that one side would be upside down. Don't think I noticed but will look.
Thanks for the watch and comment. Keep them coming. :)
Hey buddy! Does your driver side tire still turn then stop at full droop? Has the suspension settled? Would you feel comfortable off-roading with the driver side tire doing that at full droop?
Good Day Noah, I have not addressed the full droop bind yet. It only happens when it is stretched out. Since I would be doing some east coast wheeling with slower crawling trails, I do not have a problem wheeling it right now. If I was out in the West Coast jumping dunes then I would put on a limiting strap or change the CV axle with a high angle one. I am coming up to the 500 mile check. I will droop out the front to check and figure out a plan.
Gotcha! Thank you so much for replying! You've earned a sub!
Thanks man. I saw your name come up. Subs are hard to come by. :)
hey man I'm back washing this video again. curious when uou walk around your truck and look at your leaf springs is the writing on leaf spring upside down on one side. also how has it been for you
hello .. can i put that suspension in 2012 toyota regular v6 with the same control arm ?
It is supposed too as long as you do not have one of these
Does NOT fit models with 5 lug wheels.
Does NOT fit T/X Baja models.
Does NOT fit XSP-X models.
Does NOT fit PRO Series models.
I took it off road the other day. it did pretty well.
Good luck.
I recently installed the same lift kit and it's great other then one of the ball joint boots having a small pinhole leak which annoying but it's sits good.... I got it aligned and feel like I installed everything correctly. Mid 60s on the highway my steering wheel shake very minimally. nothing crazy, certainly no death wobble. What do u think Is causing it? Do u think maybe one of my wheels are unbalanced? The ride feels great other than that. I retighten everything after 50 so idk. Did u experience this?
The only thing that seems to mess with my ride was running spacers. Any unbalancing in the wheels you will feel it more since the wheels are out on a longer pivot. I am sure I will get some off set rims one day. Are you running spacers?
Now the place where I got my alignment said that they could not align it due to the spacers. I had to take them off. One thing you can do is take it back to the shop and ask them to re-check the alignment. Most shops will not charge for a check.
Other then the rear leafs squeak a lot, I love the way it rides. Way better then stock.
Good luck with the wobble.
Thanks for the watch. I am trying to Build out a custom front bumper with a winch. It might take a few videos.
Also I forgot to put it in the reply. I did have some vibration from the rear drive shaft.
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Hope it helps
I am not running any spacers. I've drove it since and the problems seems to have vanished so idk I'll keep u post.... Ill check on that alignment again
Good to hear that you don't have a problem anymore. hopefully it doesn't come back. Good luck.
if you put 285s is it necessary to change the gears of the diffs?
it is not necessary if you are just driving around. but if you are going to tow anything or live in the mountains, I would recommend a regear. 4.88 should be good. I plan on regearing mine next month. I will be filming the rear but I might take my front diff to East coast gear.
Nice vid! As far as tires, go with some BFG All Terrain KO2s at 285x75x16E (33x11.5x16).
Thanks. :) the KO2s are top of the list but will have to see what is in stock. It is amazing on how much better the ride is then stock.
@@5LakesGarage thanks I did the back today
Looks great so far
My wheels won’t be here until 2/7 ish but they are already in the building phase with custom offsets
I bought Fuel vapor 18x9 -13 offset with Nitto Ridge grabber 285x65x18 tires
Can’t wait to see it finished
Will this kit for on a 2wd if you don't install the drop diff.
I do believe so. according to the doc the same kit will fit 2 and 4wd. You should be good.
Thanks I like it. I just got the same lift but I got 265/75/16 BFG kos and it looks good and aggressive. I should get the spacers though, the black fender flares make the tires look smaller
Thanks for the comments. if you stick with the 265/75 then you should not need to do a cmc. I have a video of that if needed.
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I have mixed emotions on the pacers. I think I am getting used to them now but I might go with off set rims. But I have some tips on looking for spacers.
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Good luck
Do you have any photos of the 265/75/16? I’m considering this kit and am hoping to see a couple photos of that tire size with the lift.
Hi maybe you can answered my question I have the same lift 3.5 my problem is my both front tires rubbing at full turn I have 265 70 17 they should clear with no problem any recommendations please help thank you
With 265s you should not have any issues at all. What are they rubbing on? Upper control arm, frame, or fender?
I am running spacers to clear the upper control arms.
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Frame or fenders would be strange.
@@5LakesGarage frame when making hard turns
I am a bit Stumped. These things come stock with 265. I would love to see it in person, it is a puzzle that needs to be solved. it is a long shot but are you in NC?
Would this kit fit/work on a 2020 Tacoma 2wd?
I believe so. 2005 to 2023. You would not need front diff spacers
I put 285s on mine and still needed to a cmc.
Me and my uncle did same kit on his truck except add a leaf, rides better than factory. 85ft lbs on lugs. Needle bearing might be causing bind. Ecgs makes a bearing to replace it. Goodyear duratracs no doubt, if too expensive, there is a Walmart version goodyear authority but not sure if it comes 285s
Thanks, Man. I have heard great things about ECGs. Was thinking of going to them for the regear if I do not have time to do it myself. The Goodyear duratracs looks like they are about 1200 at Discount tire. Was not looking at them but I will put them on the list.
@@5LakesGarage if your getting a spare, I wouldn't buy I duratrac for a spare, I did it and regret it really, I would just buy a cheap mud terrain or all terrain. 1200 is high, inflation is a bitch. I've owned bfg ko2 and I liked them until I got duratracs, night and day in snow, mud and especially rain. Ko2 hydroplane like crazy
@@5LakesGarage the ecg needle bearing delete, look for it especially if you have a vibration, I bet that's why there is binding on driver side, that's where it's located.
when I looked up ECG it came up with East Coast Gear. :) Just looked it up again and it came up with the needle bearing delete. I do have a small vibration at low speed. I just added this mod to the list. Sad to hear about the ko2 hydroplane problem. This is still my daily so that would be important. Thanks again. Love Teamwork.
@@5LakesGarage if that doesn't fix it, get a carrier bearing drop or make one
I noticed on the 4x4 trucks there were some spacers required under the front. I have a 2 wheel drive and just ordered this kit, but since it's 2 wheel drive, does anything have to be installed underneath?
if it is 2wd I do not believe that you will need to crawl underneath. The only thing I needed to go underneath was for the front diff spacers. in which you do not have that problem. You should be good. Good luck and hope the video helped. I have other videos on the taco and there is a playlist. I am also working on a video right now on all of the completed mods and the ones that are still on the list. The List is rather large. :) Plenty of content.
@@5LakesGarage Thanks for your response. I ordered this kit on Mon 1/24 and it is supposed to be here today Thurs 1/27. They must have got their supplies back up. I loved your video it was very helpful. I will definately check out your other ones as well. Thanks for responding so quickly, and I was thinking the same thing. I do not have a differential on the front because it's rwd, so should not have to do any spacers for it.
I hope you get it. I ordered mine during the height of the supply chain issues. Back ordered for months and then FedEx lost one leaf spring. Had to re-order and you guest it, it was on back order. It finally came in and I paused my fabrication of the sliders to put the lift on. Could not wait any longer. But then I had to wait a bit for some tires. so I rocked the stockers for a bit with the lift. So sexy. finally went with the 285/75r16 Duratrac. I like them so far.
@@5LakesGarage The struts, shocks, control arms and hardware came in yesterday. Today BOTH Leaf springs came in :-) How long did it take you to do the rear?
I think it was July of 21 when I ordered it. and I put finally got the last part around new year.
Looking at the industry. things seem to be getting a little better It is good to hear that you got it in. Will you be putting it in or taking it somewhere? It was pretty easy.
How is the ride difference between this Setup compared to your Stock? Is it Rough?
I really hated the stock ride. Like I said in the video I kept hitting the bump stops so way to soft in my opinion. The RC lift does stiffen it up a bit but I like it so much better. I try to take it off road when ever I can. You do bounce around. This kit was not top of the line. :) After driving it for almost a year now, I should of upgraded the shocks.
@@5LakesGarage thanks so much! I’m about lift my 18’ taco sr5 with the lift you have, i drive mostly street and a hand full of times go on the beach. People keep telling me the ride is bad on RC shocks, though I hate how soft the ride is in my truck around corners and when you put any weight in the back. It feels like a boat.
Very true. this kit will stiffen it up a bit. They are not the greatest but for the price they will do. I still have a 2500 12valve that rides like a brick so the taco is comfortable in comparison :) Good luck. I would also say to keep a bottle of silicon spray handy. the rear leaves start to squeak after a while. A little spray and they quiet right now.
I have this same lift on my truck what other shocks are compatible with this lift?
What part of nc u from ?
Central NC. Luckily less then 2 hours from Uwharrie national Forest. Now if only I can drive a Manual again I will be out there. The Ruptured Achilles is almost strong enough to work the clutch.
Hey bud I have the 3 1/2 inch full suspension lift from rough country and the leaf springs what are the torque specs on the u bolts. Thank you in advance
Torque Specs:
Size Grade 5 Grade 8 Size Class 8.8 Class 10.9
5/16” 15 ft/lbs 20ft/lbs 6MM 5ft/lbs 9ft/lbs
3/8” 30 ft/lbs 35ft/lbs 8MM 18ft/lbs 23ft/lbs
7/16” 45 ft/lbs 60ft/lbs 10MM 32ft/lbs 45ft/lbs
1/2” 65 ft/lbs 90ft/lbs 12MM 55ft/lbs 75ft/lbs
9/16” 95 ft/lbs 130ft/lbs 14MM 85ft/lbs 120ft/lbs
5/8” 135ft/lbs 175ft/lbs 16MM 130ft/lbs 165ft/lbs
3/4” 185ft/lbs 280ft/lbs 18MM 170ft/lbs 240ft/lbs
This is what was on the directions.
I should have put it in the video. I went to 130ft/lbs Sorry about that. Thanks for the Sub.
That's got me all messed up lol. Wow um. I have never had to torque anything so like is there any other way of telling me. Like I just need to now. Specs for U Bolts and upper control ARMS that's it
To be honest. I just did a muscle torque on everything. I only went back to torque the u bolts after you sent the first comment. :) They did not move much. But to help you out. This is what I am seeing from the part of the instructions that I missed the first time. You might want to double check me.
Ubolts
130 ftlbs
upper control arms (if you can get a torque wrench on there.)
95 ftlb
Leaf spring bolts
135 ftlb
I called rough country and the guy said u bolts 88 ft pounds and the long bolt on upper control arm 130 ft pounds witch I did
Good to know. thanks for checking. maybe I read the sheet wrong.
Did you have any vibration after the lift?
Nothing terrible but I do plan on removing the needle bearing in the front diff.
@@5LakesGarage how does the new suspension handle towing a trailer? I just installed the same kit on my tacoma and haven’t had the chance to tow with it yet.
For the heavy stuff, A tune is a must. With larger tires and not re-gearing, it needs more power. As far as the suspension. I had to adjust a few things.
1. I put extra tire pressure in the rear. I am running 285/75 r16 and they have a large side wall now and it will have more deflection.
2. This one depends on your trailer. I tried a few drop hitches and ended up with an adjustable hitch. I really prefer to have a level trailer when I tow.
I towed a few weeks ago with an enclosed single axle for the scouts. It was only for about 2 hours one way with combination of high and backroads. The stiffer rear leafs helped a lot. The stock setup like to bounce.
Hope this helps.
@@5LakesGarage thank you for the response, it does help.👍
Taco lean driver side. My got 1/2 inch lower on driver side.
I heard about this. :) My dad had an 87 4 runner that suffered from the taco squat.
I put the same size tires 285 and had to do front body chop
I just put some 285/75 yesterday. So far we are good to go but I need to flex it out to see. I still may have to be the body chop. And I get to play with my new toy some more. :)
@@5LakesGarage watch your video on you lifting your Taco I found it funny i order the same lift and FedEx lost one of my leaf springs lol
I do not know what is going with FedEx. I posted my issue last month and it was amazing on how many people came out to say they have had the same experiences. So maybe it is the same person that got mine got yours so now their taco has a Hotrod rake.
@@5LakesGarage so how does it ride with the new lift kit
I would have to say so far I like a lot better then stock. I kept hitting the bump stops and it seemed to bounce all over the place. I put some Duratrax on it and compared to the pro comps I have on my CJ. it was Night and day on in the snow. Really please so far. I might look into removing the spacers and getting some off set rims. Will see. For now we have bumpers to build out. :)
My Bolt on upper control arm is backward
Are you able to get it out. don't remember looking in that direction to see what would be in the way. If you can't get it out, it might be easier to order another one and cut the old one out. I think Toyota slipped up a bit when they designed these trucks. The frame was designed and built in one location, the engine was something they had sitting around and the body was designed in another. And nobody talked to each other. Let us know how it turns out.
@@5LakesGarage ok thank you I eventually got it out bent the hell out the inner fender wall. And when i Installed new upper control arm I put bolt back on backwards. so if I have to remove again it will be easier. This video really made installation easy. That was pretty much the most difficult step.
Good to hear. and Congratulations. So many people get intermitted with a project like this. It was a sad day here at the shop. I dinged my taco. :( nothing huge but enough for me to say a few colorful words. it will be in the next video.
I guess in their infinite genius Toyota expects us to remove the quarter panel to replace a UCA? Could cut the bolt to remove it, but then you'd still have a problem re-inserting the new one in the OEM orientation. Crazy
That was the only real issues I had with doing the install. once you bend the Sheetmetal out enough the bolt came out and was put back in again. but there are some wiring behind it so be careful. There are a few "WTF" moments with this truck. like AC drain line running on top of the frame.
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Same here only part that took the time was bending the metel back to get bolt out and in.
Go with KO2s
Thanks. They are on the list. I went with Duratracs. I have mixed emotions on them but they seem to be ok. Wet traction is a lot less then I was hoping. KO2s will be the next ones to go on.
Get some thunderer ranger AT
Thanks. I picked up some duratracs but will look at thunderer for the next ones. Thanks for the option. I like the pattern
Mud grapps
I went with the Duratrac. I have mixed feelings about them. they are heavy and not the greatest in the wet. Will check on the Mud Grapps next time. thanks for the tip. This is when I took it off road for the first time. Was not planning on filming it but I could not help myself. :) ruclips.net/video/GUiRTbvF0dw/видео.html