Daniel Smith Gouache Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2023
- Hi friends, I had a lot of requests to review the Daniel Smith Gouache Paint so I purchase the mixing set of 4 and burnt umber from Blick: shrsl.com/45l0f (affiliate link)
And then my friends Angela @ClarkFineArt offered to share half pans of the rest of the range which I took her up on.
First off, I have to say it is really nice to use a limited palette in gouache. I love my jelly gouache but the space it takes up and the amount of colors can be overwhelming. 5 tubes suited me just fine (s long as I didn't need a bright purple or bright green as the primaries were not perfect for mixing those colors.) You can mix more without getting mud in a professional paint which means you don't need as many colors and that's good as they are more expensive than the student grade gouache.
Let's look at the pros and cons:
Pros:
Highly pigmented
Mixes well
Rewets well
The color selection in the mixing set was well thought out
Lightfast
Pigment info on tube
There is a lot of pigment so you don't need to use as much paint as student grades.
Cons:
Price (although that is to be expected with Pro Paint, Blick is up to 40% off the list price which makes them more affordable.
There is no real saturated cool blue in the range. I really need a pthalo, Prussian, or Cyan for mixing (7/28/23 I heard they are expanding the range so hopefully a cool blue is on the way)
Bottom line:
I like these and look forward to using them more. I would recommend starting with the mixing set and a quin magenta and burnt umber to get you started. I don't care for the greens they offer and they do not have a suitable great leaning blue for mixing so you might look for that in another brand. I don't think the full range is advantageous. The best thing about pro paints is that you can mix. If you don't want to mix I would go with a student grade set (keep in mind that student grade paint may work great but is best suited for sketchbooks as it might not be lightfast.) I enjoy these but wouldn't buy every color.
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This is the student grad Annigoni set I recommend: amzn.to/43Kidp9
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I am glad you mentioned the fact about paying workers a fair wage (and work environment). In the beauty community we have finally come to that place where we want it to be human cruelty-free too which is why we side-eye the Sheins and Temus of the world for 'cheap ' makeup or fashion. Same with mica in eyeshadows. Hopefully, the art world will also become more conscious in terms of 'cheap' art supplies.. I admire Denise for educating me about Cadmium pigments.
I was honestly disappointed in how many artists made temu haul videos. Also, as someone who doesn't know much about pigments yet, may I please know which of Denise's vids I should watch to learn more about Cadmiums?
@@tanglingheadphones I think it was Denise Soden earth friendly colours or maybe her yellow or red swatch videos. She always talks about earth friendly pigments.
@@marlbboro8091 Thanks so much! I'll go have a look.
I wish more people held them accountable for their deceptive marketing. Great review though Lindsay ❤
I try to be unbiased
Super granulating is a gimmick too but no one says a thing about that. It was also deceptive because there was nothing super about them. They took average granulating pigments mixed them together, tacked super to them and charged nearly if not twice the price for them. Volcano yellow was the only thing not available or substitutable and it isn’t even a decent color.
Daniel Smith should have put the pigments on the tubes, yes. However, the price of garnet, amethyst or turquoise on the open market logically tells you that you’re not getting a full tube of whatever mineral the case may be.
It’s funny that people are pissed that Daniel Smith had a sales gimmick but they aren’t upset that they got snookered by Schmincke as well. It’s a buyer beware market and it always will be no matter what country the goods come from.
@@rayne6737 you are not wrong. But DS leadership’s attitude towards consumers when called out for it was a big part of why I don’t use their product. I also didn’t purchase the super granulating colors for the reason you mention - I can just mix potters pink and ultramarine on my own. Lindsay’s vid wasn’t about Schminke though.
I would agree that even straight from the tube, not all of the colors were 100% opaque, some would need an additional layer (or two). I think your review is spot on. I agree with your opinion on the entire range as well. I think you can easily get away with a few colors for anyone that wants to add some of these to their collection. I also questioned the need for the complete set after I got them and swatched everything out, which is why I was happy to share and see what your opinion was. Have a great day!
That was so nice of you to share with Lindsay! It’s wonderful to see the whole line! Thank you!
@@melissaaldosari8024 Welcome. :)
I have the gouache and I love them. They work so well dried down in pans and rewet. Happy painting
Absolutely fab review as always! Thank you so much!
You are so welcome!
Thanks for the through review. I love that painting with the stream/river. Looks so inviting.
Any time!
Hullo Lindsay, I have to say that you are a very generous reviewer, yet you are always fair and concise with your reviews. I am a fan and trust your opinions. I am going to not be buying this product, price point is a real concern for me and I bet most comments reader’s know how I feel about the D.S. Corporation! Gouache is available in so many brands (American made brands too) and I have had wonderful results from many of the less expensive brands.
My final caveat, I was taught that gouache is not a permanent painting solution. I know that it’s reputation is much better today than years past and with scanning of Artworks and commercial printing even fugitive paints are not so fugitive anymore. Thank you. Please take care, have yourself a lovely day!😊
as always, a thorough review! i especially like that you talked about the benefits of buying artist grade vs house brand paints (quality ingredients, known pigments, ability to replace your colors). also, you pointed out the importance of learning to mix your own colors.
House brand paints are normally made to the same standards as the name brands sold at art shops (actual artist supply shops, not craft shops), and if the information is not available on the listings/display you can always request the info and it will be provided. It is very rare that art shops will produce their house brands at lower than artist standard. However, you will definitely find the most consistency and availability over a lifetime (many decades, much longer timeframes than any of us will realistically be painting across) from legacy brands.
Glad it was helpful!
The American craft stores have really poor quality house brand paint. Maybe some art stores like Jacksons have nice brands but not the big box American stores.they ate overpriced and poor quality.
Nice review as usual. Great point about workers being paid fairly. At this level they must be skilled and that takes experience.
yessssssssssssss. been waiting for this one
I went to a DS watercolor demo Saturday and got a dot card of the gouache. Haven’t played with it yet but had fun with the watercolors. Thanks for sharing 🌺
Have fun!
Lucky you! We don’t even have a decent art supply store let alone demos. Makes me want to move just to have access to an art store, lol.
Great review Lindsay!
Thanks so much!
Great review!!! Tho, at first, the DS gouache sounded exciting, but after seeing the prices and a few reviews, I'm glad I didn't grab any. This is a good review, and I'm glad I watched it. Thanks so much for sharing. Much love ❤
Thanks for watching!
The Annigoni look like it's almost all mixed with white (of course, the not-too-precious aspect is important and they have that in spades). Since the DS white is quite opaque, you could easily make more opaque paints from it. And DS is the only line that has all lightfast reds (can't remember on M Graham). Holbein and Winsor Newton both use Naphtal red pigments. When I first bought some Holbein paints, I ended up getting an M Graham red because it was the only line at the time that had any lightfast warm reds. Holbein makes a mixing set with PB15, a PR122, then a yellow, white and black, so if you bought Holbein's primary mixing set and the DS mixing set, you'd have a warm/cool mixing set. And then you can always mix the gouaches with watercolors to make new colors as well. But yeah, it's really about what you're willing to spend and why you're painting. I have found the artist grade easier to work with, even for my rookie paintings, and I've gotten to where I use the primary colors in the jelly gouache and let the rest sit. So I guess I recommend getting all the brands and having fun because that's what I did!
i have 6 huge bottles of sargent art acrylics that look like these ,i think you would do so well putting out a book,love you
You must have read my mind! I was going to ask you what gouache you recommend for a beginner ❤❤❤
Good information, thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and great review as always!! Sorry if i missed you saying it but which palettes were you using to put the tube paints into? They look so handy!
This is the large one: amzn.to/3Qvx8k3 and this is the small one: amzn.to/3rQJGYY
Lindsay is the best ❤
Thank you so much for this review! I also find the lack of a phalo or similar blue surprising. The cobalt and Ultramarine are too similar, I bought a basic set in spring and only now could afford to expand w Cobalt and some other colours as I had hoped the cobalt would bring something extra, but honestly I could have saved my money and just gone w the Ultramarine I already had. I certainly hope DS listen to you as you are such a ” big voice” in the crafting/painting world on YT and always give your honest opinion ( thank you for that!). I also miss darker colours, like Perylene violet, Van Dy k Brown and a good pure violet, like Dioxaxine. Oh, and you are so right about the greens-two standard Phtalo greens would be great for mixing purer greens now they do not have any phtalo blue. I saw another you tuber praise DS gouache for using in dried form, in pans, but I am not really sure of that YTubers integrity versus paint companies-mainly focus towards the US audience and then it is good buissness sense to praise american brands that are cheaper to buy in the US rather than the European brands. But I give no name as I do not want to be unkind to another artist and I might also be entirely wrong in my assumptions, and perhaps that ytuber is right and DS is the best brand to use if you want to use gouache dry in pans. It IS diffucult to know if a RUclipsr really thinks the products is good or is just promoting it either because they get the product for free and giving a good review will make other companies more likely to give products for that YTuber to use. I like it that you really put the pros and cons so clearly for us to see and that you also show is the product in a real painting, not just doing colourswatches! And I trust your integrity wholeheartely! I also like that you talk about conditions for workers, much of the cheap stuff we can buy is probably made in factories w horrible working conditions. Well, I will at least try to see how it works w dry gouache w the DS ones I have got.
If Sarah Burns is the artist you speak of then I would totally trust her. The knows a lot more about gouache and the varios brands than I do. You can trust her assessment.
@@thefrugalcrafter No, I was actually referring to another YT painter but as I might totally missunderstand the situation and make wrong assumptions I rather not name anyone. I agree wholeheartely with ehat you write that Sara Burns channel is a great source for anything gouache😃👍! That she is a great photographer is an added bonus too!
That lilac shade is stunning ❤
Thanks for the review. I hadn't noticed originally that they didn't have a Phthalo or Cyan. I do use my gouache like watercolors sometimes, but I do like them to be more opaque when I need it. i guess I'll stick with my Holbeins for now, supplemented by my Meedens.
Btw, I feel the same way about the Primatek marketing - I've never felt quite the same about the company.
I just tried the Holbein mixing set today. Holbein understood the assignment. 😆
You can use your watercolors to supplement and mix in for some colors.
Purple is a really good color to have. Also green, because it’s difficult to remix a green.
Looking at them in your swatches I’m not liking the greens either and I have a thing for greens. However, I often think the best green are ones I mix anyway.
Thanks for review Lindsay. Would you still recommend the Arteza set of 24 gouache as a good beginner set? I'm excited for the professional gouache comparison video.
Yes I do! It's a decent set.
My moment to whine: every time I think I'm starting to get somewhere with my painting, you just casually flick past something on your sketchbook that sends me straight from 🤯 to despair. LOL (I have to remind myself that you've been at this all your life, but you know how perfectionism and self-critiquing go!)
Now that I've gotten that out of the way...what are the odds we could get a tutorial on that gouache painting you did with the stream? It seriously looks like a photo, and I'm so bad at picking colors that I'd love to know how you painted that water!
I am posting it in real time on wednesday:)
@@thefrugalcrafter Oooo, yay!!! 😃
Thank you, Lindsay! 🤗♥️ I really appreciate your reviews. I have the Caran d’Ache Gouache Studio 15 set but haven’t used it very much because … well … I don’t know why! 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🙃😂🤣 I want to know where that top left palette came from please? 😃😍♥️
Which one?
@@thefrugalcrafter I’ll email you a screen shot. 😂
Thanks for the review! I was tempted by these when they first came out, but resisted. The two brown swatches on the lower left look nearly identical. Too bad they have two similar browns, and no cool blue. I wonder how the lavender and wisteria gouache compare to the same name colors and the Daniel Smith Watercolor.
I'm not sure, I don't have too much from Daniel Smith.
While I didn’t compare the lilac or wisteria, I did compare the Cascade green and the gouache does granulate a little but is more opaque than the watercolor
@@marielenamata2717 the wisteria and lavender watercolors have a lot of white. They’re almost like gouache. That’s interesting that the cascade green gouache still granulates.
I mostly use winsor and Newton..n m Graham goauche.. n i got 4 tubes from Daniel smith... cascade green,buff titanium..n yellow ochre.. allmost all from the winsor n Newtons.
N 7 from m grahm.. other than Viridian green from Winsor and Newton.. i wud give 10/10 for w n n.. 8 to m grahm.. n 7 to Daniel smith.. n 9 to holbein (I got only white)..
Try sakura n pentel poster colors.. though their website don't say anything about lightfastness .. they r still good..(shud not be compared with professional quality gouache).. many traditonal indian artists have started using these for their art.. who traditionally used traditonal indian goauche. These r cheaper alternatives
Senellier and daler rowney... Even though claim to be professional quality.. they don't closer to above goauche brands.. very mediocre
Thanks for the tips!
What white gouache pouch do you buy?
Annigonni amzn.to/477mohT
Someone in a group called DS and 40 more colors are coming but no Pthalo Blue. 😢
Bob Ross is crying. He always liked to mention how much he liked Pthalo Blue! :P I wonder why they're not creating one...
Huh, I wonder why (unless they don't want people mixing colors?)
Is the same as gouache watercolor?
It is similar, but not the same.
It is opaque watercolor
It's an opaque watercolor that typically uses less finely ground pigments than transparent watercolor.
Hullo, gouache is made in a similar manner as watercolor paints. Gouache is ground down much less leaving larger pieces of pigment and fillers can also help with opacity in gouache paints. You can find many less expensive choices that are just as good if not better than D.S.’s Paints.
Is children's poster paint similar to gouache
No. Children’s poster paint is just cheap, thin paint….not good for adult artwork. Trust me on this…you wouldn’t like what you painted with children’s poster paint.
Yes and no. Kid poster paint is a super cheap version of gouache. So there is a similarity in the some of the ingredients, how it is used and how it dries matt. However, the difference in quality between artist gouache and poster paint is HUGE, to the point that when you use it it feels almost like a different medium. If you are looking for a more affordable version of artist gouache, there are some good student grade inexpensive brands, like Arteza, Royal Talens Art Creation, Royal and Langnickel or the many types of Jelly gouache.
Excellent explanation!
@@justacatwhocantype Thank you 💖👍
@@nancyloomis3046 Thank you 💖👍