Is the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any good?? | BMPCC4k
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- *CORRECTION* The Ronin-S can mount to this camera but offset plate makes it easier
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Received my BMPCC 4K these days and .... it's just awesome! The footage (esp in RAW) looks so fantastic. Very happy with it. But it makes sense to add some gear like a rig, SSDs, SSD-holder and lots and lots of batteries ;)
BTW: The camera fits just fine on the Ronin-S - just use the mount adapter that is delivered with the Ronis-S ... it's in the small pouch with all the cables stuff. Put that one the normal mounting plate and the Blackmagic on top and it balances just fine.
Aha! So No need for that adapter plate for Ronin-S users if you still have that plate. Thanks EMBE!
Great insight!
I work for LanParte's distributor in the US. The offset plate from LanParte offers a one piece solution where the Ronin-S one will require attaching the adapter to original mounting plate and the setup is prone to have twist issues as well as a slightly crooked horizon.
But yes, you will be able to make it work with plate included in the Ronin-S and both solutions balance just fine. When balancing with bigger lenses, LanParte will soon launch a counterweight system
@Joshua William I'm not using flickr ... but here are some infos that might help you: www.4kshooters.net/2018/10/23/mounting-bmpcc-4k-on-the-dji-ronin-s/
@Joshua William It's working just fine - that's enough for me :)
For sure man, it certainly is just a brain.
Best intro ever
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Best intro EVER!!!!!! Love it
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Sold, buying the Red 1,300 card. Thanks
I'm getting the lens cap. We should join forces! :D
Edgar Solorzano Lol
I’m getting the battery and some screws
I'll provide a lens.
I’ll get the Filters
That looney Tunes intro can’t compete with your intro in this video
Same
Agreed
Who would even think looney Tunes competes with him.
Hahaha i agree
I didn't know it was a reference to Looney Tunes... lol
Weird review of a cinema camera. Your negative points don't make a whole lot of sense. I'll explain. BlackMagic made something that is ready to go, right out of the box, but also designed it to be extremely modular.
Need an inexpensive cinema camera that uses consumer lenses? Open the box. Here, we've even thrown in an extremely awesome video editing suite.
Need long battery life? Here, there's a two-pin you can plug into.
Need to see what you're shooting from the lens? Here's a full sized HDMI, plug in whatever monitor you want.
Need good audio from your camera? Here's a mini-XLR that provides phantom power for whatever mic you want.
Need a nice, smooth shot? The camera is light enough for nearly any gimbal (with some mods to make it fit)
Need to record a lot of footage?? Look, there's a USB-c that you can plug a cheap, consumer 2TB drive into and record all day!
Your argument that the battery is weak and poorly placed is only valid if you somehow have the money for all these huge camera builds, but choose not to use a V-batt and the dtap to 2-pin.
The battery is only there for the most portability possible in a cinema camera. I will agree, though, that the omission of a SDI port sucks a little. Certainly, BlackMagicDesign COULD have made a cinema camera with an articulating screen. They COULD have chosen to use the Sony F or NP style battery for all day shooting. And they COULD have designed it with cheeseplate all over it. But they made a choice that film makers know that the camera is just the beginning of the rig. And they chose to make these design choices to keep the price accessible to literally anyone getting into film making. A fully spec'd out iPhone Max costs more and doesn't come with a full version of Davinci Resolve.
When you buy a RED, you buy a brain, and you have to spend at least that much again to actually make it usable as a camera system. And buy those RED cards that are as expensive as an entire BMDPCC4K camera. So yes, it's not a perfect camera for everyone. But it can be. You just have to make it what you need it to be. The image quality is certainly there. For anyone coming from a DSLR environment for film making, it's definitely a step up. Just not for Vlogging. Get a Sony RX100 for that.
Sorry for the long post.
Well said
np,. nobody will read it...
well said, i agree and i read it
thanks for this, im gonna finish watching the video, but immediately i was taken aback like wait who are you reviewing this camera for..
the point he made is that it’s a good camera. yes. BUT that’s it. it is lacking all that stuff he mentions to make full use of this cameras capability. needs an external battery, external monitor, ladi ladi dadi.
Yes! i'd love to see the blackmagic vs red image quality side by side!
I'll second that.
Then type in Black Magic Pocket 4k vs Red. That's all you have to do.
I shot a commercial with this as the b-cam but nobody could tell the difference after I matched it with a chart.
I think that Parker Walbeck did that a while ago.
Dude. You’re making the best videos in our space right now. 👏
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This camera definitely does require a rig, but for $1300(which is $1000 once you count in the fact that you get $300 of Resolve Studio), you really can't complain.
In regards to failures - yes, Blackmagic does have an interesting reliability history, but it seems like they've improved a whole lot now. That green issue was most definitely an outlier.
If you want to shoot ProRes for your videos, consider shooting ProRes Proxy. No, seriously. It still *crushes* whatever comes out of any DSLR or DSLM camera, and the file sizes are tiny in comparison to larger, more "pro" levels. If you're properly lit(which you are in a studio), once uploaded to RUclips it'll look absolutely identical.
Bias warning: I own an URSA Mini 4.6K and love shooting with it.
In my high school film class we had a couple black Magic’s but the older model and I absolutely loved them. Honestly my dream camera. Loved the video btw!
Can you bring it over so I can review it too? thanks. ill be waiting
also my fav part was the mimic mimicking you
Matti Haapoja do you like micro 4 third systems 😁
Yeah, sure would be nice if I could buy it from amazon.
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Yo matti !! Love you bro
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The pocket 4k is just such an amazing camera, I love the dynamic range and it works like a charm. I've build a pretty compact rig and it's my go to camera for music videos.
Why does every youtuber assume that this is a vlog-camera?
Cool to see other people still using the 80D in 2019. Such a simplistic, yet awesome camera. And cool to see that you upscale it to 4k also...I thought I was the only one who used that trick.
You can just shoot in 1080 for your talking setup and shoot LT. This is fine for RUclips and there is enough room for grading. Especially when you just go for a rec709 look for RUclips. If your worried about being in focus just go to ISO 1250 (which is clean) and close the lens down. Their is nothing in the background that would make nice bokeh anyways.
Loved the intro 😂
Seth rocking with jet???
I have always scrolled past your videos because... No idea.
And now I totally regret it because this was awesome.
I have my BMPCC4K on pre-order, with the way they've been shipping I should have it by 2020!
Keep killing it man! Off to watch your RC video.
Its 2020 ...did you receive it??
@@maarg9049 wondering the same thing as well!
I love watching you to learn. You're always in a great jovial mood and most importantly it's genuine and not an act.
Thank you for inspiring us
You are a great RUclipsr, and I mean a GREAT RUclipsr! No one else would make all of this just for the intro. You are the best RUclipsr that I am subscribed to!
That looney tunes intro was fucking gold !! keep UP the good work
Definitely cheered me UP
You can absolutely mount it to the ronin s. Just gotta use the riser plate (that comes with the gimbal) as an offset.
We are filming a lightweight docu-series here in Asia and are using a GH5S and a BMPCC4K... Going to do a RUclips about our experience, but overall - you're 100% correct.. the BMPCC4K has its limits, including battery life, the necessity for it to be rigged up, and more than anything else - it doesn't have a good audio solution. One 3.5mm and one min-xlr makes it highly inconvenient to get good audio into it. There's a middle ground somewhere with a semi-rigged version - maybe with a cage, a Sony L-series battery, and some XLR mix box of some sort.. Oh, and yes, definitely an EF adapter, because MFT lenses just don't get enough light into it
Yes please compare them two, however the problem with you comparing the red and Blackmagic is that with your skills you make any footage look great ✌️- Love your videos btw!
😂😂😂😂 I love your personality. You always have me laughing. Great video!!
I've only ever used the 1080p BMPCC, and I love it, I don't really wanna change cameras. But now it's getting more harder to use seeing as it has been discontinued, so were compatible SD cards and other accessories. However, the new 4k version is just a little bit too excessive. Thank you for the review, I'm getting the GH5.
LOL at the intro.. you just broke that yellow backdrop Russel! 😂
One of the most hilarious intros to a camera video I've ever seen! What a way to start 2019. good job man
Thank You Potato! Was waiting for this one for ages.. Much love. By the way have anyone told you that you are beautiful? You are. And it's not just about your face but your heart 😊 your face too 😊😉
Not to mention those abs!
LOL
@@LagoutFilms yeasss ;)
@@jsimes1 loliraam 😝
Just fyi, he does it all with lighting. Roscoe makes a cosmetic cherry gel that he uses to make his heart look beautiful.
You talk at the perfect speed. Fast. I just came for a brief review of a camera and now I'm hooked. Well done!
80D owner here - I love my slr more than anything, but DUDE when you switch to Black Magic, I thought it was an ARRI Alexa.
Another 80D owner here and I gotta say, this channel makes me love my camera even more!
Same here, I have used the 80d for about a year and love it, but that black magic looks great
I've been watching camera reviews for almost a decade now. This takes the cake as far as intro's go. HOLY BALLS.
This video is so well made, covered every question I had and love the examples of colour grading on the fly etc. Top notch , subscribed
Is it weird to say that I have fallen in love with this channel so fast? From not knowing about it to a fanboy level of over 9000 in a week! Keep it up mate! ^_^
So this is the best camera to record birthday videos.
TechDevoted no..
Yup.
ha
Actually yes. Because raw video can future proof you, which really matters in long term.
😂
Just found your channe today and the way present your videos is so real! Your comedy and information is perfect for what I need to know. And I'm pretty much sold on the Sony a7iii, thank you
Learn to spell
JoliTalk why?
@@iBertz you forgot the "L" in "channel". Now you must subscribe to my channel to erase your sins
That Canon 80D's image is absolutely gorgeous.
Unconquered Male yesssss ! I agree !! Watch my videos you will understand!! Thanks 🙏🏽 keep in touch !
Kader .
I’ve totally been blown away with the image quality of the Pocket 4K but agreed about the SDI, battery life, and articulating screen. Those things aren’t deal breakers for this price point because they can mostly be worked around.
Please do Arri vs red vs bmpcc!! ✌️😊 🙌 Ps what do u think is the best lens, for the bmpcc, for the beginners, Under a 1000$?
Filip Balos sigma 18-351.8
@@justinzhng thanks :)
It's not close. We tried the BMPCC vs our UMP and it's still a significant difference, let alone going against one of our DSMC2 bodies
@filip you'd be better off taking an adapter just like he did
Adapter or look at Panasonic or Olympus stuff on b&h
One thing I've noticed about Black Magic cameras in general is that they tend to make cameras that perform really well in studio conditions, but not much of anywhere else without additional rigging. Remember the URSA mini? That camera produced a crazy good image for an even crazier price point when it was released and it's completely modular, but if you weren't using it in professional conditions (i.e. a set or a studio), you'd have started seeing limitations. 800 max ISO, poor low light performance, sluggish autofocus, bizarre camera controls, a CFAST card requirement, there wasn't even a battery included in the box.
Basically, it's a camera that COULD produce a fantastic image with a ton of recording and audio options at a very attractive price. But to get that image, you had to put up with a lot of weird caveats and force the issue. The BMPCC4K reminds me of that experience: great image and feature set with a lot of limitations that don't show up on paper.
Love the production on this channel, ur videos always feel enthusiastic and energetic. Keep it up!!!
Sometimes I dont know what the heck youre talking about BUT your delivery is AWESOME!!!
YESS I made it! 17:39 Love the video by the way, I personally prefer something that has a flip screen and decent auto focus. But if I was strictly a filmmaker it would be lovely, you can't beat it at 1300$.
I wonder how much a fully rigged out BMPC4K costs fully rigged out like he showed in this video.
@@Chikimefuiki It's going to be quite a bit more than 1300$, but you almost always have to rig a camera anyway if you're a filmmaker. But yeah if you are just a vlogger or a youtuber it doesn't really make that much sense to buy this camera.
This is probably the most entertaining camera review I've ever seen.
0:43 I did it with blue screen and that was a REAL LIFE version of the house from UP and you were in it. It's not just a random place. 😀🎈🏠🎈
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This is why I like this channel. Saved me time and money! Great camera but not for my applications. Great Video!!
Honestly, I subscribed purely because of the intro.
G E N I U S
Day late to the party but I use the BMD cinema pocket 4k in my live streams daily set up my lut on camera and done. one of the most versatile camera's I've ever owned Then add in the fact its a great little cinema camera affordable, at every step of the process from the camera to accessories and its a no brainer in my book.
LMAO...... the ABS
That intro was absolutely amazing. The lopsided hole worked with the mood.
0:07 no you just look like the kid from Up
**RUSSEL**
I'm sorry but that gimbal thing was funny af. "I know you're looking at me. Stop!" LOL
That intro 😜🙌🙌🙌
I watched this video again on my 4K screen and theres a HUGE difference!
What's the different?
Haha that intro, dude you're hysterical! And please YESSSS do the Red vs BMCC!!
whole stuff is hysterical ....and irritating
The Blackmagic 4k will be relevant for years. It´s so great
*Well, you predicted Bad Guy from Billie Eilish.*
I consider that a double win.
Guillermo when?
@@Vee3000 lol the intro is the same as a shot in Bad Guy where she punches through a paper backdrop and crawls through
This guy wins RUclips everyday. Very entertaining!
Me: why is the video 18 mins long?
Also me: ~watches intro~
I no longer regret not considering this camera. Thank you Potato Jet. Thank you.
that entry :D thats all folks!
I find it really weird that the critiques of this camera are generally that it has certain features that are lackluster, but these are features that aren't really on cinema cameras, so the stuff you need to add to make it usable are things you'd need to add to a cinema camera anyways.
Hmm..., your SM7b doesn't need phantom power. It' s a simple dynamic mic. Needs good preamp, though.
Yeah! What's with that Potato Man? Why do you think you need phantom power for your SM7B??
Great River?
Thank you for making my old 51 ass smile. I'm such a grump these days. Needed you tji s morning.
How dare you waste beautiful yellow backdrop like that. Lol. On another note that is a lot of add-ons to make it useable as a main. Im happy you covered that.
Haha! You are straight the teller of truth.. I've always enjoyed filming stuff, so I figured I'd get a blackmagic pocket cinema camera since it was cheap and provided nice looking image plus I can take it on the go... well needless to say the money I saved went all into rigging it up now I'm walking around town with a huge ass shoulder rig.
What's the opposite of Potato Jet...
Tomato Boat.
Leopold Briggs #TrumpetSound Beao Beao Beao Beaooo
Boooooooooo
Its his archy nemesis.
Jotato Pet
Meat Propeller
HILARIOUS at 03:32 how you camera freaks out as if it got caught trying to "mimic" you! AWESOME! LOLOL
The SM7B really isn’t ideal for your situation... it’s a broadcast microphone that usually goes right in front of your mouth, and the noise gate is noticeable... I bet you have a boom mic, try using that.
At 4:50, he suggests the microphone can run on Phantom power, I thought for an SM7B you would need a Cloudlifter or Fethead no?
That's probably one of the reasons there's so much noise, he doesn't have the proper amplification.
@@noah_the_nerd Correct. He needs a Cloudlifter for a cleaner, hotter signal. SM7B will get very noisy when pushed, but it's like most dynamic mics. In a different video I suggested he uses a hypercardioid SDC boomed from above. Love them for indoor dialogue.
Yeah, a dynamic mic is definitely not the right choice.
Just throwing this out there, you mentioned that you can plug the Shure SM7B directly into the camera because the camera has on-board phantom power built in, which is definitely a plus, but you definitely don't need phantom power on a Shure SM7B, those mics are dynamic, not condenser, and do not require phantom power ;-)
Her: what should be in the next video
Him : let's compare something to the red
UMP is more comparable
I had no intention of watching this yet I managed to watch the entire thing! And I never watch review videos this long... hell, I'm not even shopping, your energy rocks :)
Everybody is yelling about the battery in the BMPCC4K for 1300 bucks but no one talks about how the RED is eating V-Mounts like Popcorn for waaaaaay more money!
he has such an addictive personality
The exact moment I decided to sub, “I look super pretty”.
Just an FYI, You don't need the offset plate to use the BMPCC4k on the DJI ronin S. the Ronin S comes with a riser plate that you can attach and it will fit perfectly. and balance perfectly.
Potato Jet: You know I can’t put green behind me.
Me: What about masking?
This had me literally laughing out loud. Such good vibes this dude is underated for sure.
Honestly after owning a Pocket 4k (Lets keep it that way and not BMPCC4K lol) I love this camera and yes i shot on RED's ,Ursa Pro, and Arri but man the weight on those cameras... i would just want all camera companies to try to slim down all of their cameras.. maybe a RED mini will be out soon and still cost you $25k haha BlackMagic thank you for being an awesome flim camera company they would also kick ass in photo if they chose to go that way some day!
your wish got answered haha. the RED komodo is coming!
i just tried sdi today and i have to say its so much better than hdmi. i had to use hmdi to access the menu on the camera i was using and it was always having problems!!!
You say you don't really like 4k for your RUclips video's and that you like full hd more. But what do you think about 2k?
there are nit many 2k cams at all
Jermaine loved the intro and appreciate all your feedback on this one.It's not bad again I think it is the person behind the Camera and you definitely have that down.I appreciate your time and experience with checking this out.Again always enjoy.Thanks for sharing Deb 😉👍✌
ahah, love your intro!
Best video you ever made bro. All the best for this year and beyond
13:25 usable camera, all said and done with all the accessories compared to a camera at a $5K price point. BUT how much is invested in that setup after you add the cost of all the accesses you have?
Wouldn’t it just be better to buy a $5K camera at that point from a company that more established?
Are you kidding me?!? That's my dog at the end! Didn't think I would get featured at all! Thank you Sir! Love your content. and that Looney Tunes Intro, couldn't stop laughing! :) Keep "UP!" the good work
Me as I sit and watch this intro, “AHAHAHHAHHAHAAHAHH”
My wife, “Umm, are you ok?”
Maaaan your studio is so dope. You purchase a lot of stuff. 😁
“This memory card is the same price as this camera”
hahahaha yes all around doubles the camera price marketing rules of today, i prefer iPhone for filming lot better than all this stuff you even can put whatever lens you want into it and still toying
“Don’t look at it stop it”........ I love your personality love your material
Looney toon entrance done right! Fine take my UP vote... I mean like! 😂
1:15 seconds and I already love this
yes. it's way better than A7III's 4K.
Better for editing, but for sharpness the a7iiis is sharper because it's downsampling. The black magic is higher bitrate so it's easier to edit and it's 10 bit raw
@@leecason9468 it is 12 bit raw
Sharpness is not always a good thing in video, you end up just piling on blur and grain in post to make it look more film like.
I love the fun u have while u work. Stress free, love life. Great video
I'd rather have a few BMPCCs than one Red that fails
You could buy 11 BMPCCs for the price of the RED Dragon brain, another for a RED mag and another for a 5'' RED monitor. That's not even a statement of preference, it's just an insane comparison
@@willcrowther9968 yeah :D Insane, but it's not like Arri is cheap. With tech you pay exponetially. The unreliability would just bother me if my life is hanging on that RED.
Holy crap that mimic system is awesome! This is the future!
Ahaha your personality's a 10/10
Agree 100% love this guy. I'm not into filming but I watch all his videos for the good vibes.
That intro was ACES , maybe bc it taps into everyone's childhood fun imprinted memories. You're a filmmaking Wizard Gandalf standard
Happy new year! Hope u have good new year cause i.dont have
I love how you put the moobie pro head strap and were looking around. Then you said I know your looking at me. Classic
its a cinema camera guy, not made for vlogging.
Best part of the video was 2:37🤣😂😂😂 that sound effect got me