Debunking Araki Forgot: Part 6 - Stone Ocean

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @Hamon_Beat
    @Hamon_Beat  4 года назад +4487

    Leave more suggestions for Part 7, old pinned comment was full.

    • @mrusername5
      @mrusername5 4 года назад +534

      Does Gyro is gay?

    • @veinewill7389
      @veinewill7389 4 года назад +111

      What was that thing that Gyro ´´used`` during Mandom arc, that looks like a stand?

    • @m0ptz727
      @m0ptz727 4 года назад +84

      Is Ball Breaker a stand?

    • @beautifulworld2762
      @beautifulworld2762 4 года назад +62

      Civil war bringing back its user and johnny. I know you said jotaro's statement about bringing the dead back is correct, but does that not apply to the steel ball run universe?

    • @beautifulworld2762
      @beautifulworld2762 4 года назад +44

      What fixed Johnny's legs? Was it prolonged exposure to the corpse parts? If so, does that mean his injury went to someone else? I'm pretty sure I'm missing something, but I'd like an explanation please.

  • @spyro776
    @spyro776 4 года назад +5011

    “Why didn’t Jolyne get a stand when Jonathan was pierced?” Oh, maybe because she didn’t exist?

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 4 года назад +657

      Like wtf right. By that logic all of Josephs and Jotaros sperm would individually have stands

    • @johnwarosa2905
      @johnwarosa2905 4 года назад +406

      @@datboy038 Thats something that would be in a jorge joestar 2 novel

    • @arturorosales1307
      @arturorosales1307 4 года назад +102

      She was in jotaros ball sacks

    • @filipisotter5114
      @filipisotter5114 4 года назад +324

      @@datboy038 we've had plankton with a stand. Now get ready for
      *sperm with a stand*

    • @datpoyo4900
      @datpoyo4900 4 года назад +87

      @@filipisotter5114 a Sperm With The World Would Be Scary

  • @wazzup1629
    @wazzup1629 4 года назад +23998

    Why didn’t Jotaro use star finger to stop his marriage from falling apart

    • @lain5858
      @lain5858 4 года назад +1208

      Funny.
      But i think Jotaro got a divorce because he always have to leave.

    • @CloutmasterPhluphyy
      @CloutmasterPhluphyy 4 года назад +826

      @@lain5858 i thought it was so jolyne and "mom" didn't have to get involved

    • @JijiJohnJacky
      @JijiJohnJacky 4 года назад +984

      Dolphins

    • @lain5858
      @lain5858 4 года назад +706

      @@CloutmasterPhluphyy
      This is the main reason.
      But lack of comunication was a problem too
      because his wife can't see stands
      so she didn't know why Jotaro was always leaving.

    • @CloutmasterPhluphyy
      @CloutmasterPhluphyy 4 года назад +85

      @@lain5858 oh yeah

  • @kadentam2946
    @kadentam2946 4 года назад +5300

    The saddest part was that Foo Fighters wasn't in the last page

    • @Jova_38
      @Jova_38 4 года назад +593

      Well, she is basically a stand and not a human so maybe she was reborn as someone else's stand who knows

    • @thegremx
      @thegremx 4 года назад +312

      Jova
      wasn’t FF created by Pucci ? Don’t want to seem stupid but I was not really comfy while reading part6, so I am confused now...

    • @demonjay6945
      @demonjay6945 4 года назад +669

      @@thegremx That's right. F.F was created thanks to Pucci. Now since Pucci no longer exists in the new universe, F.F wouldn't be created.

    • @thegremx
      @thegremx 4 года назад +106

      So (even if you do not think it was) it wasn’t an Araki Forgot. In the end it’s only those who returned are shown.

    • @kuruma2023
      @kuruma2023 4 года назад +92

      It least she lived like a human... To be fair Part6 Characters still accomplish what they want before death. When it comes to part7, we still have the growth in spirits, but the dreams are usually impossible to achieve.

  • @crossknight1490
    @crossknight1490 2 года назад +3591

    17:28 Altough is ridiculous to actually ask where Notorious BIG was during part 6, I must say that it would have been hilarious to see Pucci being attacked by it

    • @MoschidisIoannis
      @MoschidisIoannis 2 года назад +482

      Yeah like imagine pucci trynna speed up all the time and BIG goes like: whacha doin there pal? Need a hand while running around? Just like yugioh where there was a monster with infinite atk points and yugi was like: You know what? Infinity plus one bitch!

    • @culteyeoftaxfraud1143
      @culteyeoftaxfraud1143 2 года назад +203

      @@MoschidisIoannis or just imagine Big yeeting himself at pucci like some sort of meaty torpedo

    • @Mortimer_RS
      @Mortimer_RS 2 года назад +2

      @@culteyeoftaxfraud1143 and neither he or anyone else knowing what the fuck is going on because none of them had seen the meaty torpedo before.

    • @an0rmalp3rson70
      @an0rmalp3rson70 2 года назад +2

      @@culteyeoftaxfraud1143 just a giant fuck off clump of pink slime flies into his face like paper when it's windy

    • @TrapCardDis
      @TrapCardDis 2 года назад +128

      I think that would’ve been a hilarious way to defeat pucci in part 6 and would make sense

  • @PeriExe
    @PeriExe 4 года назад +3628

    Araki forgot the names of Jolyne and Annasui at the end.
    Obviously.

    • @Phapchamp
      @Phapchamp 4 года назад +169

      absolutely

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 4 года назад +22

      Actually no he didn’t.
      Irene and Anakiss are completely different characters. They are alternate universe versions. Yes the universe reset but everyone’s lives, personalities and names have all changed.
      That’s why their names are different. He didn’t forget their names.
      Irene is a much different person compared to Jolyne.

    • @DioBrando-qq8gx
      @DioBrando-qq8gx 4 года назад +158

      @@Shadowrulzalways Bro it's a joke, did it fly over your head? He even made it obvious by adding "Obviously"

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 4 года назад +6

      Dio Brando Could have fooled anyone.

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 4 года назад +6

      Dio Brando But that still doesn’t change what I said. It’s still true none the less.

  • @dud9895
    @dud9895 4 года назад +5471

    Why didn't Josuke just punch the universe and reverse it to its original state? That doesn't sound ridiculous at all.

    • @TemmieMinh
      @TemmieMinh 4 года назад +802

      Crazy Diamon Requiem?

    • @RareWubbox405
      @RareWubbox405 4 года назад +514

      @@TemmieMinh No, Crazy Diamond : You shine on

    • @shwingcrimson8202
      @shwingcrimson8202 4 года назад +293

      I think you mean crazy diamond over requiem’s heaven

    • @khalilboutira1177
      @khalilboutira1177 4 года назад +22

      @@TemmieMinh 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dud9895
      @dud9895 4 года назад +27

      @@kriegytrampolingus2909 spitting straight facts

  • @filipisotter5114
    @filipisotter5114 4 года назад +2955

    Honestly just imagining pucci using made in heaven and then suddenly getting body slammed by notorious B.I.G. is pretty funny, even though its highly unrealistic lol

    • @thebatsbury8053
      @thebatsbury8053 4 года назад +39

      😂😂😂

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 4 года назад +431

      "I did it, I have finally overcome the joestars. Now I can . . . wait, whats that red thing thats getting closer?

    • @JackAceAcid
      @JackAceAcid 4 года назад +157

      AveronisGaming LERRROOOOOOOOY JEEEEEENKINS!

    • @tdSlump
      @tdSlump 4 года назад +208

      @@averonisgaming9023 pucci, behind you! Oh no, he can't hear us, he has airpods

    • @stephen5601
      @stephen5601 4 года назад +100

      My question is whether or not notorious B.I.G is considered living, so maybe its going ultra mega speed.

  • @deadcool3227
    @deadcool3227 2 года назад +4188

    Most JoJo fans seems to be under the effects of Jail House Lock

    • @theratman2605
      @theratman2605 2 года назад +90

      OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @X08-Chill
      @X08-Chill 2 года назад +451

      All they remember is "You can't bring back the dead", GER and Star Finger

    • @burgervendor8616
      @burgervendor8616 2 года назад +170

      @@X08-Chill Explains how none of them know how GER works either

    • @lyzee1199
      @lyzee1199 2 года назад +96

      Or they share the same brain cells as Okuyasu's

    • @sdesupreme5047
      @sdesupreme5047 2 года назад +4

      Stone Ocean haters are completely braindead

  • @SodaPopKazy
    @SodaPopKazy 5 лет назад +15750

    Why didn't Jotaro just use Star finger to kill Diavolo when he was all the way in Japan and Diavolo was in Italy

    • @sososnagahae8169
      @sososnagahae8169 5 лет назад +1713

      Lmao these part 6 haters worship star finger way too much while in reality it's useless

    • @mordirit8727
      @mordirit8727 5 лет назад +2215

      Pssh why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to kill DIO from his house when he learned his mother was gonna die? Did Araki forget Jotaro cares about his mother?

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 5 лет назад +1083

      @@mordirit8727 Same with the ''The rain sounded like Josuke'' meme.
      Jotaro fired a revolver right beside his ear as he was 17. Of course he would develop hearing damage.

    • @mordirit8727
      @mordirit8727 5 лет назад +695

      And, for anyone going "duh DIO is a vampire, physical attacks can't kill him, only Hamon or Sunlight"... Just think a little, it's so obvious what should have happened: Jotaro Star Fingers DIO across half the fucking world, then Joseph rushes Hamon through him and BAM, dead vampire, right there!

    • @nappy9987
      @nappy9987 5 лет назад +483

      Why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to kill DIO in 1887?

  • @jothamsmith2658
    @jothamsmith2658 4 года назад +2324

    Can't believe people actually tried to point at "DIO being a dick" as a mistake.... of COURSE he calls multiple people the weakest! He's DIO!

    • @plolop1912
      @plolop1912 4 года назад +150

      Jotham Smith the whole point of him is that he rejected his humanity and feels superior to everyone, and that ALL humans are the weakest to him which is why he says hermit purple is the weakest when in reality dio used johnathans stand which is almost identical to it

    • @lugoorstar
      @lugoorstar 4 года назад +58

      @@plolop1912 literally Jonathan's stand is hermit purple, but there isn't a blonde naked gay vampire messing whith his bloodline, making that the pictures were all the same.
      Literally it is like saying that radio channel 102.4 is useless because the channel 102.3 is causing interferences whith it, but you are the channel 102.3

    • @engineerxero7767
      @engineerxero7767 4 года назад +7

      @Broly stomp's vegeta go cry in a corner now loser Same concept, phantom photos

    • @HerohammerStudios
      @HerohammerStudios 3 года назад +9

      @extremely handsome gorilla man thing It's as different from Hermit Purple as Star Platinum is from The World

    • @saathvikbogam
      @saathvikbogam 3 года назад +28

      His literal catchphrase in part 1 is Hinjaku Hinjaku, which means weakling lol

  • @buglab2285
    @buglab2285 4 года назад +2172

    Wait people thought dio caused jolyne's sickness
    1. WTF
    2. Jotaro was 17 in part 3

    • @tenaciouscreator5787
      @tenaciouscreator5787 4 года назад +335

      She was in his sperm cells ready to be released.

    • @buglab2285
      @buglab2285 4 года назад +116

      @@tenaciouscreator5787 right right I forgot that

    • @jonathantruong7069
      @jonathantruong7069 4 года назад +199

      @@buglab2285 He also used Star Spermer to shoot Jolyne into his future wife, hence why she got the curse.

    • @Rosen666
      @Rosen666 4 года назад +94

      @@jonathantruong7069 STAR SPERMER!

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 года назад +55

      @@Rosen666 does this mean the World has a Star Spermer too?

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince 2 года назад +4227

    I love how, according to these people, Star Finger is the solution to everything

    • @miimiibeschde4818
      @miimiibeschde4818 2 года назад +355

      Me: mih easily dodged bullets
      Other Guys: BuT sTaR fInGeR

    • @uxsenebeli
      @uxsenebeli 2 года назад +98

      Once you get married it is

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 2 года назад +85

      @@El_Mince Or ''Why didnt Giorno use GER?'' - solution for everything

    • @JSt3pz
      @JSt3pz 2 года назад +37

      Star finger would’ve been useful in stopped time

    • @Dovei
      @Dovei 2 года назад +92

      I dunno. I recently had trouble with my taxes, but Star Finger, and now I'm better than ever.

  • @selaa.g033
    @selaa.g033 5 лет назад +9326

    This is the calmest and most passive aggressive way of saying "Y'all stupid."

    • @dudeicantaddapfpamangey9546
      @dudeicantaddapfpamangey9546 5 лет назад +172

      Ikr

    • @AzinuHarru
      @AzinuHarru 5 лет назад +51

      Lol

    • @thedredayshow9246
      @thedredayshow9246 5 лет назад +611

      In some parts of this video I can sense Hamon Beat wanting to raise his voice.

    • @werh227
      @werh227 5 лет назад +20

      Is that a mother ducking Pokemon reference!?

    • @werh227
      @werh227 5 лет назад +13

      Is that a mother ducking Pokemon reference!?

  • @prxnce6588
    @prxnce6588 4 года назад +3231

    Why didnt Jotaro just hit pucci with a “so its the same type of stand as star platinum” and win the fight?!

    • @thebatsbury8053
      @thebatsbury8053 4 года назад +45

      I like your comment but I utterly despise your DP.

    • @Bestroyer348
      @Bestroyer348 4 года назад +172

      Perhaps he thought time stop was his only power and didn’t know star platinums true strength

    • @Betoruffo
      @Betoruffo 4 года назад +7

      right???

    • @neilmartinez4619
      @neilmartinez4619 4 года назад +12

      It would be MUDA because he wouldn't want to accelerate time anyway.

    • @thebatsbury8053
      @thebatsbury8053 4 года назад +72

      @@neilmartinez4619 why not? Just accelerate it faster than pucci and destroy him

  • @ibt2811
    @ibt2811 4 года назад +4753

    Imagine you read the final page of part 6, and then jolyne wakes up from another white snake dream

    • @hugo8989
      @hugo8989 4 года назад +140

      Omg

    • @jo2399
      @jo2399 4 года назад +500

      That acid sure worked super slow then

    • @austerloowaterlitz1543
      @austerloowaterlitz1543 3 года назад +336

      Now this is a Yare Yare Dawa moment.

    • @justserious3205
      @justserious3205 3 года назад +78

      That would be g r e a t

    • @danvevoooo
      @danvevoooo 3 года назад +74

      That would be funny if she was still on the prison and she was about to die lol

  • @suezuccati304
    @suezuccati304 2 года назад +3765

    Dio in Part 3: Extremely calculating and introspective
    What everyone remembers: FUNNY MAN SAYS ZA WARUDO AND ROADO ROLLER DA!

    • @douglasstieritz7748
      @douglasstieritz7748 2 года назад +255

      You forgot MUDA MUDA MUDA and WRYYYYYYY

    • @deadcool3227
      @deadcool3227 2 года назад +113

      Well people do know JoJo because of the memes than anything else

    • @pancakes8816
      @pancakes8816 2 года назад +75

      Not really, he was an egotistical bozo at times. I mean, he could have killed jotaro multiple times in TS, yet what was his work around? Knives, not a KC donut. Fucking knives. Cool but so impractical

    • @suezuccati304
      @suezuccati304 2 года назад +225

      @@pancakes8816 dude, DIO literally tried to donut jotaro during stopped time and jotaro donuted him instead, that was the whole reason why dio thrown knives at jotaro.
      No, it wasn't easy for him to kill Jotaro, I have seen this take so many times and it's so obviously wrong.

    • @pancakes8816
      @pancakes8816 2 года назад +28

      @@suezuccati304 ita DIO, he could have killed majority of the stardust crusaders with ease. Had he not fucked with polnareff he would have killed jotaro, he shitted on kakyoin with ease, could have killed polnareff with ease, my point is. DIO is an arrogant jackass and that's why he lost, for someone you deem "calculating" he sure did make a lot of beginner and half asked mistakes

  • @Samstar369
    @Samstar369 5 лет назад +3456

    When Araki forgot translates to “Fans forgot”

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 5 лет назад +62

      Underrated comment

    • @gabrielbarros11
      @gabrielbarros11 5 лет назад +93

      Not exactly, I mean a lot of those explanations are "well, it could be this", when there's no real explanation, like the Anasui one, the real point is why Araki introduces things that he won't use ?, using hermes as an example, why did he make her injured ?, couldn't he simply think of another solution ?
      I don't think that "Araki forgerts", in my opinion is more like "Araki don't care", he just do what he thinks will be cool, but jojo fans are pretty stupid about basic things that happen in the history too.

    • @sososnagahae8169
      @sososnagahae8169 5 лет назад +195

      @@gabrielbarros11 exactly. Also this is just how araki wants to develop his story. Saying that something is an unresolved plot point just because it didn't develop the way they wanted is dumb

    • @gabrielbarros11
      @gabrielbarros11 5 лет назад +9

      @@WrathofFenrir99 I don't think it makes better for worldbuilding, but it makes possible to the history be more unique, as I said Araki just want to write good histories and this is the best thing about jojo, because you can't predict what will happen since Araki himself probaly don't make a restrict script of what will happen.

    • @primalgroudon5722
      @primalgroudon5722 5 лет назад +8

      Yes: Kakyion, the _donut boi_ while his punisher, was donuted *3 fucking times*

  • @maguc5906
    @maguc5906 4 года назад +2747

    Hermes: *Gets her head fucking broken in two*
    Jojo fans: "Why doesn't she appear HUH"

    • @krrygk9623
      @krrygk9623 3 года назад +269

      People seem to forget that she doesn't appear for so long because around 5 arcs occur in the span of a single day, Westwood, Dragon Dream, Green Birth, Yo Yo Ma and White Snake Pursuer, all of this happens in less than a day.

    • @warlordlegends7515
      @warlordlegends7515 3 года назад +131

      To be fair, the preceding 2 parts both had healing stand users as their JoJo, so you could say we were a little spoiled

    • @softwet6393
      @softwet6393 3 года назад +53

      @@krrygk9623 Bet that was a Thursday

    • @myselft36yearsago
      @myselft36yearsago 3 года назад +25

      Those aren't jojo fans, those are jojo haters

    • @nevajujnoobs8476
      @nevajujnoobs8476 3 года назад +28

      OK SO WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE THINK THAT A STAND THAT TRACKS THE FASTEST THING IN A SHORT RADIUS IS GONNA TRACK PUCCI FROM OVER 5000 FUCKING MILES AWAY???

  • @owl9150
    @owl9150 4 года назад +939

    “Yo why didn’t jotaro use star finger to kill Pucci when he was born?!?!”

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +74

      "Why he didn't used the suck that he used on Justice to suck pucci?"

    • @KayderimGameplays
      @KayderimGameplays 4 года назад +3

      Because jotaro was 3 years wold when pucci born

    • @aventuron
      @aventuron 4 года назад +21

      @@KayderimGameplays r/woooosh

    • @aursgustaviuosvancrack9695
      @aursgustaviuosvancrack9695 4 года назад +3

      Kayd Zeal r/wooosh

    • @georgeruiz9211
      @georgeruiz9211 4 года назад +42

      Why didnt he throw puccis pregnant mother like iggy

  • @neonpenguin0948
    @neonpenguin0948 2 года назад +844

    “Araki Forgot”
    Bro he wanted the story to be good, how dumb would it be if everyone is losing and then Giorno comes out of know here and saves the day, that’s such a horrible ending

    • @h.celdritch558
      @h.celdritch558 2 года назад +217

      Just the kind of ending that sick Marvel fans would have wanted 😂

    • @CBman11037
      @CBman11037 Год назад +108

      Dude, If Koichi were there, Reverb would've just stopped him from running so much. Why didn't Jotaro just send him a text!

    • @Hollow__Heart
      @Hollow__Heart Год назад +86

      Having a powerful character not taking part in such an important part of the story without good reason wouldn't be satisfying either.
      Although there was a reason for Giorno and that is he had no way of knowing what the hell is causing time acceleration.
      I had a thought about Jotaro getting help from Koichi but then again he didn't have a reason to assume that something like a Universe reset could happen at all.
      So yeah, Araki is a great storyteller, people want unreasonable things, what else is new?

    • @lemonywater2979
      @lemonywater2979 Год назад +10

      There's an actual reason why Giorno didn't save the day in the end, but "because it would be boring" is not it. Araki still created the character and gave him those crazy abilities, so it doesn't absolve him.

    • @kamilkaymakc2589
      @kamilkaymakc2589 Год назад +4

      Atleast jotaro could try to call very powerful stand users in morioh after waking up from coma. Yeah I know jotaro probably didn't want to risk their lives or too cocky to ask for help sometimes but for ffs pucci did beat him in seconds in their first encounter and his daughter is in danger or atleast someone from speedwagon f. should have thought like "there is guy who easily caused jotaro to fall into a coma, WE NEED HELP"

  • @isnortjarsofdirt6004
    @isnortjarsofdirt6004 5 лет назад +1588

    Pucci: *accelerates the universe*
    Notorious B.I.G:
    *visible confusion*

    • @lukeduran12
      @lukeduran12 4 года назад +8

      @JoGeJo but the sun isnt moving faster than anything else in the solar system. If anything its slower

    • @legoworksstudios1
      @legoworksstudios1 4 года назад +46

      @@lukeduran12 The sun isn't even moving. The earth is moving faster around the sun because the solar system is heliocentric so the only things moving that fast are the planets, their respective moons and everything else that's susceptible to entropy such as plants, objects and single-celled organisms. This explains why Jotaro's, Hermes' and Anasui's bodies decayed so quickly; the bacteria responsible for decomposition worked faster than normal.

    • @uhoh6706
      @uhoh6706 4 года назад +4

      *confused screaming*

    • @rapid_
      @rapid_ 4 года назад +46

      _it attacks rohan, because rohan can still meet all of his deadlines even when time is accelerated_

    • @triangulum8869
      @triangulum8869 4 года назад +8

      notorious_big.exe (not responding)

  • @dragonslayergod
    @dragonslayergod 4 года назад +1960

    Dio: wow that's the weakest stand
    Dio later: wow this is even more trash
    Everyone: PLOT HOLE????

    • @morbidwolf94
      @morbidwolf94 4 года назад +52

      the thing is dio got the same stand as joseph hermit purple
      araki forgot that dio has 2 stand

    • @dragonslayergod
      @dragonslayergod 4 года назад +270

      @@morbidwolf94 ok but Dio could have just been taunting Joseph

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +234

      Kakyoin: I don't think that a mirror world could exist
      10 years later in italy: *stand that can enter the mirror world*
      Everyone: PLOT HOLE,ARAKI YOU DUMB FUCK

    • @kevinplovnick4064
      @kevinplovnick4064 4 года назад +15

      Technically earlier

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +125

      @@dragonslayergod or he was looking at his hermit purple and was like "You know what?this thing is worst lmao"

  • @infintypotato495
    @infintypotato495 5 лет назад +1417

    When a guy has his head being crushed, he is typically not the winner.

    • @nathanieldardar4295
      @nathanieldardar4295 5 лет назад +225

      Commenter: "Pucci basically won in the end."
      *jump cut to Weather Report caving Pucci's skull in.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 5 лет назад +150

      That's the thing people tends to ignore, the fact that Pucci lost the end game, undoing the reset in the process. It gets even more annoying when they claim that it created part 7.

    • @randominternetuser5872
      @randominternetuser5872 5 лет назад +20

      You're telling me DIO and Kira didn't won?

    • @infintypotato495
      @infintypotato495 5 лет назад +46

      @@randominternetuser5872 nah Dio won because he killed the best man, Kakyoin and Kira won cause he got an erection for mona lisa

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 5 лет назад +5

      @@infintypotato495 and he was indirectly responssible for iggy and avdol's death

  • @balian9177
    @balian9177 2 года назад +296

    Also regarding the "How can dio heal puccis foot?"
    DIO merged rats and pigeons and attached human heads on dogs in Part 1...

    • @TabooRetka701
      @TabooRetka701 Год назад +9

      Yeah, but weren't they zombies/vampires? Just like Vanila Ice?

    • @lucinavonnolaran8728
      @lucinavonnolaran8728 Год назад +32

      That feels like a moot point. If Dio was capable of merging body parts together for zombies, then logic dictates that it would be possible to do this for humans as well.
      Not to mention, the Pillar Men were capable of that feat as well. See Wamuu merging the ($)German Soldiers' hands together before deflating them all.

    • @gigacanno750
      @gigacanno750 11 месяцев назад

      @@lucinavonnolaran8728the math checks out.

    • @kuze1930
      @kuze1930 11 месяцев назад +6

      For a sec I thought you where about to say that he merged rats and pigeons into his toes.

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@kuze1930 He probably can do that too but I feel you'd have to get him drunk before he'd try it out

  • @roidmango5751
    @roidmango5751 5 лет назад +1562

    Hamon Beat: "Part 3 also has the most misinformation surrounding it."
    Also Hamon Beat: *has to explain every simple plot thread of Part 6 because people can't read*

    • @ABHyt
      @ABHyt 5 лет назад +58

      #Hamonforgot

    • @memeswithcringe1624
      @memeswithcringe1624 5 лет назад +158

      This isn’t misinformation, this is just not reading at all

    • @jotarokujo7644
      @jotarokujo7644 5 лет назад +33

      My daughter beat me to it... yare yare daze

    • @charmatic_yt2195
      @charmatic_yt2195 4 года назад +6

      Reading is gay

    • @li_ka2
      @li_ka2 4 года назад +19

      @@charmatic_yt2195 but you read this comment

  • @just0_
    @just0_ 4 года назад +688

    Its just pretty dam dumb to me how people ask "how did Emporio get DIO's bone?", Emporio literally said that it was his dead mom's bone

    • @Hect0r_turtle
      @Hect0r_turtle 4 года назад +57

      Without context that's fucked up

    • @DapperFella
      @DapperFella 4 года назад +118

      Dio is Emporio's mom

    • @hugo8989
      @hugo8989 4 года назад +9

      @@Hect0r_turtle omg-

    • @thewall4069
      @thewall4069 4 года назад +13

      @@DapperFella *earth bound music*
      what

    • @thewall4069
      @thewall4069 4 года назад +8

      @@DapperFella new doujin idea :)

  • @SasukeeUchiha
    @SasukeeUchiha 4 года назад +1980

    why didn't jotaro just bend star finger around the earth, pick up giorno and notorious b.i.g and bring them back to flroida to kill pucci?

    • @librask3009
      @librask3009 4 года назад +185

      omg ur right Araki forgot!!

    • @nathanieldardar4295
      @nathanieldardar4295 4 года назад +301

      Why didn't Jotaro realize Made in Heaven was the same type if stand as Star Platinum?

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +44

      Araki you dumb fuck,you forgot this very important thing!

    • @Little_Eris
      @Little_Eris 4 года назад +26

      Jack COLEMAN that’s honestly a good question in this comment section.

    • @Itsseth0
      @Itsseth0 4 года назад +14

      Nathaniel DarDar sorry dude I forgot when I was stabbed with knifes

  • @startoast4787
    @startoast4787 2 года назад +738

    ngl i think it would've been cool to have a one shot where we see how Giorno, josuke and more supporting characters reacted to the universe speeding up.

    • @changsiah2
      @changsiah2 2 года назад +45

      actually I'll be quite cool to see ( either him or someone else writing it for it)

    • @Marina-kb9hi
      @Marina-kb9hi 2 года назад +64

      half hoped to see that in the anime
      well at least the opening and ending for the final episode were pretty cool

    • @alexstach8667
      @alexstach8667 2 года назад +30

      I don't think there was much they could do. They were most likely very confused and pretty much powerless

    • @w.b.s.
      @w.b.s. Год назад +87

      Josuke: Desperately punching everything in eyeshot to see if it'd somehow fix things
      Okuyasu: The one to come up with that idea

    • @ybebinchilin2421
      @ybebinchilin2421 Год назад +19

      @@w.b.s.😂😂😂 dude that actually seems like something they’d do

  • @billcypher7286
    @billcypher7286 4 года назад +1652

    You didn't include that Araki forgot to include an ocean made of stone

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 3 года назад +123

      Ik this is a joke but technically, jolyne says that the green dolphin prison, an prison on an island, can be considered an ocean of stone

    • @soulsparx
      @soulsparx 3 года назад +105

      @@averonisgaming9023 also "stone ocean" is a common metaphor for prison, in the same vein as calling cities "urban jungles"

    • @humaneggs69
      @humaneggs69 3 года назад +19

      @@soulsparx concrete jungle* I’m glad you stated this however because it’s something most people don’t realise with part 6

    • @totallynotdio1311
      @totallynotdio1311 3 года назад +24

      He also forgot about a jojo lion

    • @vxunaTM_xuandanhphan
      @vxunaTM_xuandanhphan 3 года назад +6

      @@totallynotdio1311 lmao

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 лет назад +2805

    I actually really liked part 6, one of my favorite characters in JoJo is Weather Report. I like his backstory, his broken stand ability and how he's written as a character.

    • @nan_24
      @nan_24 5 лет назад +48

      Just Some Guy without a Mustache ye but I like part 7 the most that is my opinion but part 6 is my third second being part 5

    • @identicalgd2446
      @identicalgd2446 5 лет назад +7

      Just Some Guy without a Mustache same

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 5 лет назад +5

      I hated his stand actually, that shit makes no sense. Weather Report > Heavy Weather's bullshit

    • @legoworksstudios1
      @legoworksstudios1 5 лет назад +45

      I liked Part 6 too. I think my favorite Stands were Whitesnake, Diver Down and Jail House Lock. Since Whitesnake had dialogue, I got the impression that he symbolized Pucci's desires while attaining Heaven from the way he spoke. Diver Down's ability to dive down and assume control of whatever it dives into and rearrange it from the inside out. That's pretty interesting. JHL took a while for me to understand until a trip into the Stardust Crusaders subreddit helped me understand that it locks its victims in their memories. Only a villain could have something that twisted.

    • @stepha7102
      @stepha7102 5 лет назад +13

      Just Some Guy without a Mustache I love him too! I’ve also really started to like Emporio recently. Part 6 is one of my favorite parts though.

  • @CosmicamsCanvasCurse
    @CosmicamsCanvasCurse 4 года назад +2905

    The real villain of Part 6 is lack of reading comprehension

    • @richardgonzalez4633
      @richardgonzalez4633 3 года назад +79

      THE TRUE JOJO VILLAIN.

    • @chiefbologna5719
      @chiefbologna5719 3 года назад +37

      The true villain in real life too

    • @lucaschannel726
      @lucaschannel726 3 года назад +58

      Agree! Seriously how many hardcore jojo fans actually believe in this misinformation garbage

    • @dum5247
      @dum5247 3 года назад +3

      Rohan’s bane

    • @t.t6294
      @t.t6294 3 года назад +9

      I was reading some comments from 2 years ago and holy shit some people can't read.

  • @Obsidian_Dreamz
    @Obsidian_Dreamz 2 года назад +771

    Honestly the only thing that bothers me about part 6 is a minor one and that grocery store eggs aren’t fertilized and wouldn’t turn into baby chicks regardless of how much time passed, and even if they were fertilized they wouldn’t develop in the conditions they were in.

    • @luis-sophus-8227
      @luis-sophus-8227 2 года назад +69

      I think it was artificial development and that's why they ended like halfchicks

    • @jimmuthedeath1215
      @jimmuthedeath1215 Год назад +45

      I know in some cultures you can get fertilized quail and duck eggs as a delicacy. There's videos of people even buying those from the super market and incubating them to hatch. Perhaps it's something similar?

    • @gustavosanches3454
      @gustavosanches3454 Год назад +24

      It is actually quite common for some eggs to be fertilized, mistakes can happen.

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Год назад +18

      Yeah but sometimes creative license makes for a better scene, yknow. Ppl are wrong about araki forgots a lot, but even when theyre right its often stuff thats excusable via the old adage "rule of cool" as it were

    • @Hoopsnake
      @Hoopsnake Год назад +34

      @@leaffinite2001 Whats more important is that "Araki made a factual error" is very different from "Araki forgot". Lots of great works have some memorable factual errors, and you have to be a very special sort of person to get overly hung up on these. Jojo fans treat Araki like he has dementia and is forgetting his own facts that he's putting in. The egg thing is either a slip up, or a deliberate fudging for effect, but its not forgetfulness.

  • @melvinm.261
    @melvinm.261 4 года назад +464

    You could tell that, despite his calm voice, Hamon Beat is getting sick of the fandom's ignorance.

    • @Lee-wb5yx
      @Lee-wb5yx 4 года назад +44

      He can't even sound mad or people will start saying he's excusing the araki forgot by stretching things, which happened with few parts review before this

  • @joestarlineage5838
    @joestarlineage5838 4 года назад +440

    People try to say things like “this stand can revive the dead so Araki forgot” when nobody considers the fact that Jotaro could just be wrong. It’s not like Jotaro knows everything about every stand ever.

    • @zh7334
      @zh7334 4 года назад +106

      Yeah, obviously Jotaro is a literal god with intelligence that goes beyond the physical realm. Not like he can ever be wrong? Right? Right?

    • @elusorymonk1941
      @elusorymonk1941 4 года назад +41

      He's still right tho, there's not stand that could bring back someone from death properly (not zombies or muh resolve shenanigans)

    • @jotarokujo_starplatinum5492
      @jotarokujo_starplatinum5492 4 года назад +1

      @@zh7334 yes

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 4 года назад +45

      @@elusorymonk1941 The point is, they shouldn't be going to the quotes of the Stardust Crusaders for _every single thing a Stand can do._ Like, Kakyoin says a mirror dimension can't exist... tell that to Illuso, whose Stand is literally pulling people into an _actual mirror dimension._

    • @TheLudicrousLuv
      @TheLudicrousLuv 4 года назад +1

      @@elusorymonk1941 i mean theres civil war

  • @awhahoo
    @awhahoo 4 года назад +841

    Why didnt Jonathan sunlight yellow overdrive Pucci across time, like jesus doesnt he care about his great great grandchildren and great great great grandchildren

    • @mreverything7056
      @mreverything7056 4 года назад +62

      Too busy waiting for Joseph to die so he can scold him for cheating on his wife. However, little did he know, Joseph would never die.

    • @RareWubbox405
      @RareWubbox405 4 года назад +1

      @Blizzard Flame good

    • @tomrob0697
      @tomrob0697 4 года назад +4

      ceiling fan star finger kept Jonathan’s mind thinking

    • @RareWubbox405
      @RareWubbox405 4 года назад

      @Blizzard Flame annoying suzie is

    • @cllncl
      @cllncl 4 года назад

      @demonslayer2005 :D he can forgive more japanese now

  • @jayanth5781
    @jayanth5781 2 года назад +411

    Part 3 : immortal vampire with a stand that stops time
    Part 5 : his son with the power of a literal uno block card
    Diver down: submerges into objects
    People:that's impossible 😨😱

    • @swishyb
      @swishyb 10 месяцев назад +5

      even tho ppl do extremely misunderstand his ability, they dont really say his stand power is impossible. they say thats its EXTREMELY possible, and that EVERY stand can do it xd

  • @rifatbobos
    @rifatbobos 5 лет назад +964

    Giorno doesn't appear because he's busy funding and helping Polnareffland's development

    • @GaranNoDou298
      @GaranNoDou298 5 лет назад +128

      I hope Pucci's death didn't reset the progress on the Polnareffland, it would be sad if it did.

    • @GaranNoDou298
      @GaranNoDou298 5 лет назад +2

      @Chicken nuuuuu ;w;

    • @snowbringercult
      @snowbringercult 5 лет назад +35

      Giorno just yells at everyone to get back to work after protecting Polnareffland from being reset

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 5 лет назад +13

      I want that to be his canon first order of business as Mafia boss

    • @filipvadas7602
      @filipvadas7602 5 лет назад +11

      @@GaranNoDou298 the prison that was remade in the new universe looked basically identical to the original, so Polnareffland would be the same

  • @goldexperiencerequiem6619
    @goldexperiencerequiem6619 4 года назад +1111

    why didn't Jotaro just inhale Pucci's time acceleration, it worked with justice so it should work with time

    • @hugo8989
      @hugo8989 4 года назад +6

      Lol

    • @quickboi8353
      @quickboi8353 3 года назад +219

      Jotaro sucking pucci?😳😳😳

    • @otterjazz
      @otterjazz 3 года назад +10

      @@quickboi8353 Hahahahaha

    • @TheKaselord
      @TheKaselord 3 года назад +31

      When the jotaro is sus

    • @CJ-kb4gv
      @CJ-kb4gv 3 года назад +30

      @@quickboi8353 *in Old Joseph's voice* OH MY GODDDD

  • @fidelski2019
    @fidelski2019 4 года назад +644

    “Why didn’t White Snake ever use that ability again”
    LITERALLY MADE JOLYNE, FF, AND ANNASUI THINK THAT WHITE SNAKE WAS WEATHER REPORT

    • @bihn
      @bihn 4 года назад +83

      NOPE!!!
      IF IM DUMB AND SKIPPED IT OR DONT REMEMBER IT IT DIDNT HAPPEND

    • @fidelski2019
      @fidelski2019 4 года назад +45

      Professional Internet Surfer ARAKI FORGOT THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE!1!1!1!1

    • @adisgustingdegenerate8311
      @adisgustingdegenerate8311 4 года назад +52

      why didn't pucci use c-moon to kill valentine?

    • @divineshinobi1791
      @divineshinobi1791 4 года назад +4

      @@adisgustingdegenerate8311 😂

    • @bRUCEiSDEAD
      @bRUCEiSDEAD 4 года назад +13

      Fans:OMG WHY DID HE NOT USE THIS ABILLITYYAHSB
      also fans is he did use it more: bruh stop using that move it's overused

  • @masido443
    @masido443 Год назад +96

    I actually understood Pucci's plan after hearing his monologue to Emporio. "Why do people meet?" and "Do you believe in gravity?" are amazing lines that say a lot about Pucci. In his backstory he lost his sister because of a crazy turn of event that he unknowingly caused. The reason why in his "Heaven" people are basically living their usual lives but know their fate is exactly thin that. After this no one can undergo the suffering that Pucci, Perla and Weather weht through. I find it a very interesting detail that sadly was overlooked by many.

    • @jamesdennison7290
      @jamesdennison7290 Год назад +25

      It provides context for his character! A lot of people miss this. Pucci can't feel guilty and did nothing wrong if the calamity was always meant to happen. Instead of repenting for his mistake, he doubles down. This leads to the thesis of part 6's writing which explains that even though pucci was trying to control fate, in the end it doesn't matter as "Walking the path of Justice is fate itself." That's the most important philosophical foundation for JoJo and people glaze right over it :(

    • @masido443
      @masido443 Год назад +3

      @@jamesdennison7290 I agree.

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams Год назад +19

      ​@@jamesdennison7290 Also, while "fate" is a real, tangible force in the Jojo universe, there's multiple times characters defy it, or at the very least change something before they meet their end.
      I've always read that as a message saying "things won't change unless you have the willpower to change them," which is a very optimistic and powerful message to send to young people.

    • @user-ym8zp6ld4e
      @user-ym8zp6ld4e 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@bugjamsbasically all villain atleast till what ive seen (part 6) are able to change something with fate, dio stopping time, kira going back 1 hour in time, diavolo kind off forwarding 10 secs in time and pucci making time go faster, they all have to do something with changing fate just like how golden experience requiem changed giornos fate diavolo had seen

  • @KarmaStar
    @KarmaStar 4 года назад +379

    Why didn't Star Platinum just use Star Finger to kill Dio back in 1880 so that Jonathan didn't have to die? Araki forgot smh.

    • @masarusenpai1952
      @masarusenpai1952 4 года назад +26

      why didn't araki think of that? this is just ridiculous, it would've been so much better if it was like this

    • @jorgecorrea2762
      @jorgecorrea2762 4 года назад +8

      I wish that Jonathan's mom could had get her stand Stone Free to use Stone Finger Requiem to kill all Jojo villans.
      Everyone thought of that possibility!

    • @abnormal_asian
      @abnormal_asian 4 года назад +7

      If Jonathan’s mom never saved him in the carriage accident none of this would ever have happened and so many people would still be alive smh

  • @fraudhoward1409
    @fraudhoward1409 5 лет назад +1392

    Why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to save Gyro from Valentine? He was in range

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 года назад +213

      Star Finger would not be able to pierce Valentine, for he is protected by the greatest democracy the world has ever known

    • @dresadreemur7784
      @dresadreemur7784 4 года назад +101

      @@francescolombardi3438 God bless America

    • @onewingedren2228
      @onewingedren2228 4 года назад +55

      @@francescolombardi3438 this is the america's power! 🇱🇷 Not even Speedwagon can beat the america's democracy

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 года назад +18

      @@onewingedren2228Funny Valentine: THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    • @deutshsean8313
      @deutshsean8313 4 года назад +1

      This comment replies make me W H E E Z E

  • @dicerthejester5715
    @dicerthejester5715 5 лет назад +652

    "JOSEPH JOESTAR! YOU HAVE THE 27TH WEAKEST STAND THAT I KNOW OF!"
    "Um... thanks?"
    "DON'T BE THANKFUL YOU FOOL! THAT WAS A TAUNT! ...I just don't like lying when taunting people..."

    • @julymagnus493
      @julymagnus493 5 лет назад +61

      "Your next line is 'Joseph Joestar! you have the 27th weakest Stand that I know of!'"

    • @CoronaMacGuinness
      @CoronaMacGuinness 5 лет назад +43

      "Joseph Joestar! you have the 27th weakest Stand that I know of- WHAAAAAAT?!"

    • @typeouetco1626
      @typeouetco1626 5 лет назад +14

      still, it's mainly because it's the weakest stand out of the crusaders

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 5 лет назад +1

      "...baka!"

    • @lesscringeymapperdude
      @lesscringeymapperdude 5 лет назад +1

      @@typeouetco1626 the lovers is the weakest

  • @brasteen1
    @brasteen1 2 года назад +236

    As someone who just completed the part 6 anime, I never understood all the confusion around this part. I thought Made in Heaven was thoroughly explained and made sense. The ending was great and super cathartic even if bittersweet. "My name....is Emporio" 😢

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Год назад +29

      People hate reading, lmao. And to be fair the manga is a bit wordier than the anime, so i kinda get it. But really ppl just skim the fuck out of the part manga

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio Год назад +15

      A lot of people just speed-read Stone Ocean so they can skip to Steel Ball Run as soon as possible, because other Jojo fans tell them to do so. Much like "Citizen Kane is the best movie of all time," people believe "Stone Ocean is the worst Jojo part" because they've been told so and lack either the motivation or critical thinking to decide for themselves.
      None of this even gets into the superiority complex some Jojo fans have, thinking that because they read Jojo that somehow proves how smart and exceptional they are. Yet they can barely follow the basic narrative half the time, much less keep track of Stand abilities, character motivations, or basic linear time.

    • @Hugh_mann77
      @Hugh_mann77 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@OtakuUnitedStudio SBR is a Bi*h to read. I'm not dyslexic but I'd have better luck Turning vanilla ice against Dio and Making Joseph Not run away at everything

  • @shinobix4925
    @shinobix4925 5 лет назад +478

    "Some people have asked why F.F. didn't heal Hermes, in spite that being exactly what happened" You can really tell that these complaints are probably the closest anything has gotten to genuinely triggering Hamon Beat.

    • @mattizap2988
      @mattizap2988 5 лет назад +7

      if only you knew how bad things really are

    • @mrebicproductions1955
      @mrebicproductions1955 5 лет назад +80

      "why didn't she do the thing that she did?"

    • @boianko
      @boianko 5 лет назад +8

      I guess the question would be - if Hermes was healed, why did she need so much time to recover? It seemed like FF's healing was nearly instant and it could heal severely damaged or destroyed organs like Jolyne's eye or FF's jaw, so why did Hermes need so much recovery time all of a sudden?

    • @Xfighter000
      @Xfighter000 5 лет назад +25

      @@boianko Not set in stone but I assume because her head was split, that includes her brain and brain matter as well. Brain matter being more complex than a jaw muscle and bone or an eye, it probably takes FF more to heal.

    • @azirul9311
      @azirul9311 5 лет назад

      @@Xfighter000 ^^^

  • @morganus1360
    @morganus1360 4 года назад +1111

    "Part 6 is one of the most hated parts."
    Me, who just finished reading it and consider it one of my favorite parts: What!

    • @winnerpeener
      @winnerpeener 4 года назад +59

      Same dude

    • @thiswasem
      @thiswasem 4 года назад +83

      Same bruh I dont understand the hate

    • @miguelpina2006
      @miguelpina2006 3 года назад +50

      Same, i Finished reading about a week ago, and I think its just amazing.

    • @pankakotakismegalomavropou3355
      @pankakotakismegalomavropou3355 3 года назад +50

      The feels at the end. Makes caesar's death the 2nd most emotional scene for me

    • @phenotakuosani2884
      @phenotakuosani2884 3 года назад +7

      I dont hate the whole part only the mfking ending ENDING UP THAT EMPORIO IS THE REAL PROTAGONIST LOL

  • @Hyparbeem526
    @Hyparbeem526 4 года назад +801

    Imagine how boring JBA would be if every plot/stand mechanic worked exactly the way everyone expected it to

    • @Bob-lx8xu
      @Bob-lx8xu 4 года назад +53

      No? That's why every stand have interesting ability. Hell even in Startdust crusader where the stand is just simple sword, fire, puncy boi Is still interesting.

    • @Bob-lx8xu
      @Bob-lx8xu 4 года назад +3

      @@requiempose7171 Dude I didnot act like anything, English is just not my first language that's why my grammar is awful

    • @Bob-lx8xu
      @Bob-lx8xu 4 года назад +24

      @@requiempose7171 ah thank you soo much, It's rare to get a compliment here. You made my day much better.

    • @grimmisascorchmain9486
      @grimmisascorchmain9486 4 года назад

      JJBA*

    • @D4n1-VA
      @D4n1-VA 4 года назад +3

      Working the way you expect, and being bullshit are not the same thing. I understand WHY they work that way, but that doesn't mean it's not still bad writing

  • @giornogiovanna3299
    @giornogiovanna3299 2 года назад +776

    Araki forgot ❌
    Viewers forgot ✅

  • @diegoc.8759
    @diegoc.8759 4 года назад +1079

    The worst one I've seen yet is "WhY Didn'T tHeY JuSt eScApE pRiSon WiTh ThEir StAnDs?"

    • @tachconnor4485
      @tachconnor4485 4 года назад +183

      Oh no my braincells their rawtening

    • @ragedaniel5475
      @ragedaniel5475 4 года назад +55

      Well, they do it

    • @_cripticon8004
      @_cripticon8004 4 года назад +394

      Oh no, it’s not like there’s a specific stand that makes you lose your memories if you try to leave the prison

    • @someboi875
      @someboi875 4 года назад +21

      Brain cells out the window

    • @joshuagraham5750
      @joshuagraham5750 4 года назад +88

      H.Harold yeah! It’s not like it’s one of the most terrifying stand abilities?

  • @iskraiskra_9007
    @iskraiskra_9007 5 лет назад +740

    "Debunking Araki Forgot: Part 6 - Stone Ocean" also known as "Hamon Beat goes absolutely off on people who can't read"

    • @Lavamario1
      @Lavamario1 5 лет назад +46

      well it's true, the, the brains of those so called ''fans'' are beginning to rot cause of all the araki forgot jokes.

    • @somerandomguy6767
      @somerandomguy6767 5 лет назад +37

      Looking at you Shuck and Meti

    • @Double400
      @Double400 5 лет назад +12

      Don't mess with us JoJo fans we can't read

    • @shoobzy3431
      @shoobzy3431 5 лет назад +31

      It's true though, if you're going to skim read through something like jjba and then question every single thing it's your own damn fault. I get why he gets pissed off.

    • @makzionut7096
      @makzionut7096 4 года назад +3

      @@somerandomguy6767 meti actually debunked some Araki forgot moments and haves good content.

  • @thesuntitan
    @thesuntitan 4 года назад +454

    People speedreading badly translated unofficial scans to get to Part 7: "wow, Part 6 sucks"

    • @ibavider
      @ibavider 4 года назад +48

      People who think part skippers are worse than mass murderers speedreading Part 6 to get to Part 7 because they think the part skipper rule doesnt apply to them: "PaRt 6 BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    • @awkwardcultism
      @awkwardcultism 3 года назад +2

      To be fair, the official translations suck too.

    • @kmann7253
      @kmann7253 3 года назад +21

      @@awkwardcultism unless you’re referring to the official translations of parts 1-4, there is no official translation of parts 5-8 yet, though I believe 5 is going to get an official English release this summer

    • @AzureKite
      @AzureKite 3 года назад +3

      @@0_toast_045 The last few chapters of part 6 had sooo many spelling errors

    • @merritt2014
      @merritt2014 3 года назад

      Which is weird cause there's super easy access to unofficial translations of Part 6 now that are super good.

  • @bughouse1521
    @bughouse1521 2 года назад +86

    I love how Hamon Beat put up a map to show people that Italy and Florida aren’t even close 😂😂😂

  • @reywindu1088
    @reywindu1088 4 года назад +1401

    Watch how part 6 haters see part 6 get animated and they gonna be like “Oh my god this is the best part!” I swear it’s the same people who thought part 5 was trash before it was animated.

    • @ZenjaminG
      @ZenjaminG 4 года назад +132

      That’s exactly what will happen

    • @cactus_juice3217
      @cactus_juice3217 4 года назад +197

      Considering how people found part 5 the worst due to confusion regarding the manga that was cleared in the anime, this is probably going to be very much true.

    • @elpoyo8062
      @elpoyo8062 4 года назад +204

      Too be fair, the Western fanbase was justified in hating Vento Aureo unlike with Stone Ocean. The original part 5 manga translations were dogshit and still taint the reputation of the part to this day. With part 6 there's literally no excuse. They clearly just shut off their peabrains and skimmed through the part. Stone Ocean's anime adaptation better pull a Vento Aureo and redeem the fanbase's stupid opinion.

    • @TriToneTiefling
      @TriToneTiefling 4 года назад +19

      I Still think part 5 is bad and I never once used it's poor translation as an excuse, following the plot wasn't hard, it was just painful to sit through when I was already 5 steps ahead of the character waiting for them to catch up. It's badly paced and a lot of it's big plot moments don't feel well thought out at all. Diavolo was the best part of it by far and he is my favorite villain with my favorite stand but he is the ONE good thing I will give part 5. I hated everything else.

    • @Daydy377
      @Daydy377 4 года назад +11

      Except that part 5 is actually bad

  • @elr6212
    @elr6212 4 года назад +899

    I loved Pucci’s death, he is taken down and then brutally beaten to death by his brother’s stand, which he tried to weaken and take away. And in the end, he was erased from the new timeline while Jolyne and her friends were allowed to live happy lives, apart from Emporio :(

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 3 года назад +127

      Actually, emporio can live a happy life, he's just sad that his friends dont know him anymore

    • @victory7302
      @victory7302 3 года назад +101

      @@averonisgaming9023 that would be a gross oversimplification of Emporio’s feelings

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 3 года назад +34

      @@victory7302 sorry if it seemed that way, I didn't mean to make it sound harsh

    • @Misanthropolis
      @Misanthropolis 3 года назад +72

      @@averonisgaming9023 Must be horrible to remember everything yet everyone else has no clue.

    • @saucevc8353
      @saucevc8353 3 года назад +18

      @@averonisgaming9023 They aren't really his friends, they never met him in the new universe and might as well be different people, his old friends died along with the original universe.

  • @gayzer1020
    @gayzer1020 4 года назад +652

    Now we understand why people hate part 6 : they don't read.

    • @gayzer1020
      @gayzer1020 4 года назад +7

      @@sandvichnavy2682 they are the worst

    • @_cripticon8004
      @_cripticon8004 4 года назад +30

      Fr stone ocean is one of the better parts. Peoples brains just deactivate when they read part 6

    • @gayzer1020
      @gayzer1020 4 года назад +11

      @@_cripticon8004 they speed read it to get to SBR as soon as possible I mean its the best imo but stone ocean is top 4 for me
      1 SBR
      2 GOLDEN WİND
      3 DİU
      4 STONE OCEAN
      5 BATTLE TENDENCY
      6 STARDUST CRUSADERS
      7 PHANTOM BLOOD
      havent finished jojolion and stardust is a bit overrated

    • @_cripticon8004
      @_cripticon8004 4 года назад +2

      Aiden I agree mostly
      I would say 7 > 6/8 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 3/1

    • @_cripticon8004
      @_cripticon8004 4 года назад +1

      Sandvich Collector #TF2 for life yeah I just prefer the pillar men but other than that they’re very close

  • @it6647
    @it6647 2 года назад +187

    0:35-Why didn't Jolyne get her stand from Jonathan?
    1:12-Emporio's bone
    2:01-Acid attack slow and forgotten
    3:07-White Snake's disc
    3:23-Manhattan Transfer fight
    3:38-Flashback color issue
    4:11-Limp Bizkit can revive people?
    4:31-Hermes forgotten
    5:19-Weakest stand
    5:46-Why was Pucci not in part 3?
    6:15-DIO resurrection or Heaven?
    6:40-Anasui's gender
    7:27-Diver Down's abilities
    8:27- DIO has changed
    9:14-Speedup is inconsistent
    10:21-Birthmarks
    11:44-Underworld's pen
    12:19-DIO's foot fixing fetish
    12:26-Disc and coma
    12:46-Incest, race and KKK
    14:36-White Snake Requiem
    15:24-Heavy weather
    16:46-Stand-Human interaction
    17:20-Notorious BIG locking on to Pucci
    18:26-WHY DIDN'T JOTARO USE STAR FINGER TO FIND A CURE FOR CANCER?!
    20:01-Giorno's return?
    21:17-Finale fight
    21:56-2 stands per user using stand disc
    22:32-Ending clarified

  • @DarthJoshReturns
    @DarthJoshReturns 5 лет назад +578

    "Why doesn't Jotaro just use Star Finger" has to be the JoJo fandom's version of "Why didn't they just use the Time Turner?" or "Why didn't they just fly the eagles to Mordor?"

    • @-cams.
      @-cams. 5 лет назад +82

      or the good old "Why don't they use the Dragon Balls to end this problem?"

    • @dangerwarg9682
      @dangerwarg9682 5 лет назад +37

      "Why don't they just use the force?"

    • @samphillips4289
      @samphillips4289 5 лет назад +14

      The best part is that all three have legitimate answers.

    • @DarthJoshReturns
      @DarthJoshReturns 5 лет назад +46

      @@samphillips4289 That's the point. They're only plot holes if you weren't paying attention.

    • @azirul9311
      @azirul9311 5 лет назад +12

      @@DarthJoshReturns goddamnit Shuck,I get it,it started out as "meme" but do you realized just how much this has impact the JoJo community?Sorry for straying off topic btw,need to get this out somewhere

  • @kungfukeralite
    @kungfukeralite 4 года назад +464

    When DPo decide to animate this, watch it become EVERYONE'S favorite JoJo part. If they pull off the final fight as perfectly as the manga, it'll genuinely be one of the all time anime scenes.

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 4 года назад +70

      I feel a lot of Stone Ocean's problems are pacing-based (not all but a good amount), so a good adaptation might alleviate things

    • @Asphy_
      @Asphy_ 4 года назад +15

      The last battle was so cool even "exited" can't express how "exited" I was
      LMAO HOW DID I SAY THAT MY SPEECH IS JUST

    • @chriswentz5197
      @chriswentz5197 4 года назад +8

      or a mini ova which is a Alternate dnding._.

    • @tophatgeo
      @tophatgeo 4 года назад +23

      04. Adwaith P Most fights with Stone Free, Weather Report/Heavy Weather and the C-Moon/Made in Heaven fights are gonna be epic as hell

    • @skipiot1724
      @skipiot1724 4 года назад +25

      My favourite Jojo part is part 6, I say before being animated

  • @RiverdudeCovers
    @RiverdudeCovers 5 лет назад +2806

    I have been waiting for this one. Finally, we can shut up the people who say Part 6 makes no sense when they barely read the manga and are just hopping on the Stone Ocean Haters bandwagon.

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 5 лет назад +107

      Who knows? Maybe the anime will make the Survivor fight fun to watch

    • @awesomecatskater7155
      @awesomecatskater7155 5 лет назад +209

      *cough cough shuckmeister cough cough

    • @ryan-yh7vo
      @ryan-yh7vo 5 лет назад +57

      *Stone Ocean Haters Speedwagon

    • @krmdagger1126
      @krmdagger1126 5 лет назад +12

      Small idea: you and ascrubforhire music collaboration

    • @tracythomas4700
      @tracythomas4700 5 лет назад +130

      I hope the anime clears up the confusion like how part 5 cleared up some assumed discrepancies. I hope people come around to Stone Ocean. Or at least criticize it with actual faults in the story.

  • @computermariobross
    @computermariobross 2 года назад +362

    Memes tricked me this entire time making me think that Part 6 had a bad ending

    • @Samstar369
      @Samstar369 2 года назад +61

      Honestly. I think memes are like misinformation propaganda-like weapons lol. People can make a meme but transform the meme to something far from its original source or altered to becoming a different meme. Or, if something fun, even if inaccurate, happens, then it can blow up and become a meme and people will think the meme is correct. (Like "I am a stegosaurus" from ASDFmovie)

    • @Marina-kb9hi
      @Marina-kb9hi 2 года назад +38

      honestly I am glad in someway, because I've always thought I had the ending spoiled by the memes, but it turns out there was so much more that I didn't know that make it a way better ending that I was lead to believe prior

    • @TenInches_
      @TenInches_ 2 года назад +1

      it is bad

    • @omgdin
      @omgdin 2 года назад +27

      @@TenInches_ lmfao no, part 6 had a happy ending, they ended the dio curse and fate is finally on the side of the joestars

    • @TenInches_
      @TenInches_ 2 года назад

      @@omgdin that was not a happy ending. they just rewrote the entire storyline past part 2 and destroyed the whole kujo family. it’s not like the characters we knew are free of the curse. no it’s a whole new universe with different characters that never had the curse to begin with.

  • @tobigrantlbart
    @tobigrantlbart 3 года назад +891

    Ahh the perfect deus ex machina, Notorious B.I.G coming out of nowwhere and killing Pucci, what spectacular storytelling.
    And also Giorno shows up along side B.I.G

    • @MunchaBuncha
      @MunchaBuncha 2 года назад +53

      i think people forgot that B.I.G is actually stuck in the sea

    • @worthyedge9307
      @worthyedge9307 2 года назад +91

      and then everybody clapped and cheered

    • @suckerman7gm
      @suckerman7gm 2 года назад +90

      @@worthyedge9307 Truly the anime of all time

    • @worthyedge9307
      @worthyedge9307 2 года назад +54

      @@suckerman7gm out of all of the plot points, this was certainly one of them

    • @changsiah2
      @changsiah2 2 года назад +25

      Giorno was actually be cool but I think he's too busy somewhere
      Notorious B.I.G will be quite funny will but anti-climactic

  • @Ludro45
    @Ludro45 5 лет назад +389

    While Stone Ocean is not one of my favourite JoJo parts, calling it full of plot holes is incredibly dishonest. Thank you for this video.

    • @mailman636break3
      @mailman636break3 5 лет назад +17

      Hooked On A Feeling The biggest pothole is why wasn't there a stand named pizza time

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +9

      90% Of the Araki forgots on part 6 are just fans bullshit or lack of attention

    • @evangelion8793
      @evangelion8793 4 года назад +4

      T o b b y Q bc they all skimming to get to part 7 which is annoying as hell, I understand it’s one of the harder parts to read but your lack of comprehension does not mean it’s bad smh those fans get on my nerves

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +2

      @@evangelion8793 Exactly
      I mean,WHERE PUCCI SAID THAT HE WILL REVIVE DIO

  • @blues4509
    @blues4509 5 лет назад +474

    Why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to investigate Giorno instead of Koichi? He was in range!

    • @jotarokujo7644
      @jotarokujo7644 5 лет назад +14

      Cause Giorno isn't my son.

    • @simonj6801
      @simonj6801 5 лет назад +13

      @@jotarokujo7644 Understandable have a good day

    • @ginnakv4929
      @ginnakv4929 5 лет назад +3

      I Know How King Crimson Works HOW DOES IT WORK??? *profused sweating*

    • @prestongarvey2599
      @prestongarvey2599 5 лет назад +8

      OI JOSUKE, I USED [ Z A H A N D O ] TO TAKE STAR PLATINUM'S HAND, NOW I CAN USE [ S T A R H A N D O ], ain't that crazy?

    • @simonj6801
      @simonj6801 5 лет назад +5

      @@ginnakv4929 king crimson can delete any action taken while keeping the result of said action, this is what is called erased time. Only Diavolo can remember what happened during the erased time and Diavolo cannot be hurt during the erased time. Also Epitaph can see 10 seconds into the future.

  • @oedsバロン
    @oedsバロン 2 года назад +243

    I have to say i liked part 7 more but saying part 6 sucked is just mind boggling. It was so fun reading it.

  • @blindbeholder9713
    @blindbeholder9713 3 года назад +1195

    An extra note about "Why didn't FF just heal her?"
    Josuke could heal be restoring people's bodies to a previous state. This is very fast and perfectly repairs.
    Giorno could heal by creating perfect surrogates for any section of lost body parts, and speeding up the natural repair process. This can save people from other wise critical injuries but is impractical to use during battle.
    FF heals by placing pieces of herself (The plankton) into open wounds, sealing them and preventing infection. This is effectively an advanced form of bandage, and is even slower than Giorno's healing method.
    When someone's head is split open in front of Josuke, he can fix it as if it never happened, and they are instantly in perfect condition. When Giorno is in the same situation, he can replace any lost parts and close the wound, skipping most of the natural healing process but potentially leaving them with a scar that is still more vulnerable than they previously were. When FF is in that situation, she can fill in the wound, preventing them from bleeding out, but they are still injured and need time to heal. Jolyne can "heal" in a similar manner, by "stitching" the wounds closed, but the string she uses is made out of her own body so she is weakened by every active "stitch."

    • @kaydage6814
      @kaydage6814 3 года назад +126

      this is a great explanation but sadly the people who you wrote this for dont know how to read, otherwise they would have already understood your point the first time they "read" (skimmed) part 6

    • @dinidusamaranayake3266
      @dinidusamaranayake3266 3 года назад +9

      @@kaydage6814 sad

    • @KaijuofSteel
      @KaijuofSteel 3 года назад +23

      Basically Josuke is one of the best healers in all of media lol, but sadly can't use that ability on himself.

    • @lordpvt
      @lordpvt 3 года назад +5

      @@dinidusamaranayake3266 yeah

    • @n00bplayer72
      @n00bplayer72 3 года назад +24

      Yeah, we got spoiled with OP healers in Part 4 and 5, and now that we have a balanced healer in Part 6 and injuries now need time to heal, people throw a fit when a character needs a somewhat realistic amount of time to recover.

  • @gionnis
    @gionnis 4 года назад +393

    Why didn't Jotaro just use star finger to tell gappy who he is? He was in range!!!

    • @besttrex2485
      @besttrex2485 4 года назад +10

      Gappy!?

    • @chara3469
      @chara3469 4 года назад +21

      @@besttrex2485 That's the way community refers to part 8 Josuke.

    • @besttrex2485
      @besttrex2485 4 года назад +5

      @Chiara Hirose ik that it’s just where does gappy come in all this

    • @gionnis
      @gionnis 4 года назад +15

      @@besttrex2485 if your question was why do we call him gappy, it's cause he has a gap in his teeth. If not, idk.

    • @トーキ-g8v
      @トーキ-g8v 4 года назад +6

      Gappy is always in range due to being made of 2 Jotaros

  • @JosephJoeseph
    @JosephJoeseph 4 года назад +504

    why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to cross time and dimensional borders and murder DIO, the pillar men, Yoshikage Kira, Diavolo, Pucci and Funny Valentine simaltaneously? Seriously, Araki has the mind of a goldfish, smh my head...

    • @You-topia
      @You-topia 4 года назад +33

      Araki is a disabled DOG for not having Jotaro cross realities to make us a part 6 anime smh my life

    • @ziadtarek952
      @ziadtarek952 4 года назад +10

      Seriously, i would love to see an animation about this🤣

    • @icromch9429
      @icromch9429 3 года назад +5

      Honestly! He even forgot the villain he JUST MADE how did he forget to use star finger on tooru

    • @raccoon.9698
      @raccoon.9698 3 года назад +2

      @@icromch9429 yeah ik and he should have used it on Diego

    • @Gon-hx4df
      @Gon-hx4df 3 года назад +1

      @@You-topia HE DID IT

  • @AvidAnimeWatcher
    @AvidAnimeWatcher 2 года назад +165

    3:34 JOTARO LITERALLY STATES, WHEN FIGHTING JOHNGALI A. IN THE ANIME, "NO, THIS IS REALITY!" IT COULDNT BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS THAN THAT!

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Год назад

      Well when this came out the anime hadnt. Anyway its still pretty obvious lmao

    • @hizketmar8188
      @hizketmar8188 Год назад +5

      @@leaffinite2001 he still says it as far as I remember

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Год назад

      @@hizketmar8188 in the manga? Ill take your word for it its been years since i read it. Tho i dont remember being confused about it either

    • @hizketmar8188
      @hizketmar8188 Год назад +2

      @@leaffinite2001 wait I misunderstood, I don't know about the manga

  • @blitzkriegdragon013
    @blitzkriegdragon013 4 года назад +1087

    *universe spinning around Giorno*
    Giorno: "Requiem is this an attack?"
    Requiem: "What? Nah fam, we good."

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +104

      lmao
      But I mean,is not a direct attack

    • @mouthwide0pen
      @mouthwide0pen 4 года назад +19

      I mean, morning man came out intact

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 4 года назад +119

      Technically, it really isn't an attack. Literally all it is was just Pucci resetting the universe, going off the logic Pucci and his Stand use Giorno and his friends would've been just fine after the unverse reset and then after Pucci died and the universe was brought back to normal again, nobody died as a result as Hamon Beat explained.

    • @dislikebot1526
      @dislikebot1526 4 года назад +36

      @@mrreyes5004 yeah, also it wouldn't have affected giorno as GER is above the concept of time, so it was not a threat at all.

    • @schlafenkirsche
      @schlafenkirsche 4 года назад +31

      It's not even an attack, it doesn't damage Giorno

  • @mooganify
    @mooganify 3 года назад +1213

    "Bro why didn't Giorno stop Made in Heaven while he was in Italy" lmao so now they're saying Giorno can save the day while he has no idea what's going on, good lord.

    • @kenjisxsad5404
      @kenjisxsad5404 3 года назад +80

      I mean Giorno was hinted at so that must’ve brought peoples expectations up. Giorno couldn’t have came around because as you said he had no idea what was happening and well he’s a busy guy after he became a Mafia boss. Giorno would’ve ruined the part if he was in it.

    • @davidreljac1707
      @davidreljac1707 3 года назад +128

      @@kenjisxsad5404 Wasn't the "hint" that Giorno was in Florida added on by the english translations and not actually Araki wrote in?

    • @odd-eyes6363
      @odd-eyes6363 3 года назад +37

      Yes we expect Giorno to save the day while he has no idea what's going on, that's literally what happened at the end of Part 5.
      GER itself told us so, Giorno had no idea what it was actually doing while Diavolo activated his stand

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 3 года назад +92

      Even if he did know what was going on he GER can’t exactly stop it because it the universe reset isn’t targeting Giorno it’s just accelerating what would have already happened. Saying GER would stop made in heaven is like saying GER would stop ageing. Now if Pucci attempted to attack Giorno that’s a different story

    • @suckerman7gm
      @suckerman7gm 3 года назад +56

      @@datboy038 Yeah, IF Pucci attacked Giorno, maybe that would work.
      Because GER activates when Giorno is attacked, not affected by other things. If the stand would be activated by anything, then GER would be activated as soon as King Crimson activated ıt's ability. (Or when Giorno's eyes were blinded by Diavolo's blood)

  • @mrbigrig171
    @mrbigrig171 3 года назад +2907

    Love how people expect Jotaro to remember a move he used 20 years ago, in the span of 5 seconds while hyped up on adrenaline and emotion.

    • @godslayer699
      @godslayer699 3 года назад +205

      22 years ago*

    • @ThadriousGoldenstone
      @ThadriousGoldenstone 3 года назад +235

      Even if he did, its a bad move and wouldn't work

    • @khalilnevels8926
      @khalilnevels8926 3 года назад +60

      @@ThadriousGoldenstone like, its literally a last resort

    • @justasentientmclarenp1879
      @justasentientmclarenp1879 3 года назад +109

      @@khalilnevels8926 a last resort that’s only useful in specific situations

    • @khalilnevels8926
      @khalilnevels8926 3 года назад +56

      @@justasentientmclarenp1879 and in this situation, it would be useless. you probably thought i was defending the star finger argument but i knew it wouldn't work, sorry for confusion

  • @AliluluMillion
    @AliluluMillion Год назад +42

    I had a friend that watched this and went “DIO acted so fucking crazy during his fight with Jotaro” without realizing that DIO was just popping off cause he was confident he'd win and achieve heaven.
    I said that and they just called me an Araki Meatrider

  • @travisbewley7084
    @travisbewley7084 3 года назад +813

    I'm noticing a trend in Jojo endings where it's not so much about the hero getting what they want but it's about the villian getting exactly the opposite of what they want. Like in part 6 the resolution is so completely the opposite of what the villian wanted. Not only to all the character literally not know of their real past or future but even the reader doesn't.

    • @pablopereyra7126
      @pablopereyra7126 3 года назад +172

      Part 1: Dio wants to end the Joestar bloodline, fails
      Part 2: Kars wants to rule the Earth, gets frozen in space
      Part 3: Dio wants to kill Jotaro, gets killed by Jotaro
      Part 4: Kira wants to live a quiet life, gets in a lot of stressful situations, dies, and goes to hell
      Part 5: Diavolo wants to be inmortal, gets put in an infinite death loop
      Part 6: Pucci wants everyone to know their fate, completely rewrites it and dies

    • @Thepre-fixfordeath
      @Thepre-fixfordeath 3 года назад +19

      @@pablopereyra7126 dead man's questions

    • @pablopereyra7126
      @pablopereyra7126 3 года назад +7

      @@Thepre-fixfordeath Is that canon tho?

    • @Thepre-fixfordeath
      @Thepre-fixfordeath 3 года назад +4

      @@pablopereyra7126 I think so

    • @skyla9998
      @skyla9998 3 года назад +3

      @@pablopereyra7126 This is just wrong in so many ways. Talk about not paying attention to the story..

  • @JB-bc2ry
    @JB-bc2ry 5 лет назад +485

    Now, an *actual* Araki Forgot that barely anyone mentions is how Planet Waves was originally named Earth Wind and Fire, when Araki already made Mikitaka's Stand by that name

    • @lCore17
      @lCore17 5 лет назад +121

      True, I can excuse that one because sometimes remembering a minor character after 5+ years of work can be hard.

    • @MrCed122
      @MrCed122 5 лет назад +85

      I mean... Mikitaka's Stand didn't even have a name in the manga if I remember correctly, it came later, so that's pretty forgivable

    • @hugohepworth5633
      @hugohepworth5633 5 лет назад +81

      MrCed122 Because he didn't have a stand because HE WAS AN ALIEN 👀

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 5 лет назад +25

      And there's how Part 3 was to take place at 1987-88 but then it changed to '88-89 shortly afterward. That or he made a typo and went "Meh, it's not like anyone will notice."

    • @bardisaythen4392
      @bardisaythen4392 5 лет назад +23

      @@hugohepworth5633 Mikitaka is a throwaway character. The whole joke is "is he a stand user or an alien?" so he was given an ability name. It's still called a stand name but that's not truly what it is, just written.

  • @ems6706
    @ems6706 3 года назад +964

    So I think some of the discussion around Araki forgetting doesn't take into account what his schedule was like writing JoJos. So I'm gonna into it: Part 1, Jojo's ran for 42 weeks or 299 days (January 1, 1987- October 26,1987) and he wrote and drew 44 chapter before going immediately into Part 2 which had 69 chapters and ran for 69 weeks (November 2, 1987 - March 20, 1989,) He had almost 4 weeks off between 2 and 3 began
    In part 3, he did 152 chaptsrs in 159 weeks (March 27, 1989 - April 14, 1992) which means in 3 years he roughly had two weeks off weeks a year and the rest was a strict deadline week in week out drawing and writing Jojo's. He had a week off before starting Part 4, and Part 4 ran for 172 chapters for 186 Weeks (April 21, 1992 - November 13, 1995) or 3.5 years which means he got four weeks off per year which is what Jump gives their big sellers I guess. Careful with all that free time.
    Araki went directly into Part 5 without a break and it ran 155 chapters in 176 weeks (November 20, 1995 - April 5, 1999) which translates to roughly 5 weeks off a year which is still 47 weeks of strict deadlines he met. He got a very well deserved break from the end of Part 5 to Part 6 starting of 8 months which is really nice hopefully he got some sleep.
    Part 6 ran for 176 weeks for 158 chapters (December 7, 1999, to April 21, 2003) for 3 years so he got roughly 6 weeks off each year. Part 7 started as a weekly series as well before shifting to monthly, so the break between part 6 and 7 was 9 and a half months (i wanna add as well these "breaks" were the time he spent planning the story, designing characters etc).
    The last of Araki's time writing weekly manga before switching over to monthly was 38 weeks though Part 6 I can't seem to find whether he took breaks or not.
    That's a hectic 16 years of nearly consistent work and by the time he was done writing weekly he'd had around 2 years and some change of free time where he wasn't turning in weekly manga on a deadline that's caused other mangaka health issues. The fact Jojo is as consistent as it is despite near constant work during each Part is incredible and I just try to give Araki a break.

    • @oedsバロン
      @oedsバロン 2 года назад +26

      This needs more likes

    • @Zekiraeth
      @Zekiraeth 2 года назад +88

      Holy shit. I knew mangaka had tight work schedules, but that's absolutely insane. How the fuck did he go thru all that without succumbing to stress or even getting any grey hair and wrinkles? Somehow my already immense respect for Araki has increased significantly.

    • @Nhan6241
      @Nhan6241 2 года назад +92

      @@Zekiraeth He is just like Rohan fr

    • @arciantum
      @arciantum 2 года назад +37

      @@Zekiraeth It kinda seems like drawing manga makes his body age slower. Drawing manga is hamon at this point.

    • @StripedJacket
      @StripedJacket 2 года назад +19

      It’s crazy AMAZING how they can make these stories and they flow well and then draw them ON A WEEKLY BASIS
      I’m here struggling to even outline 30 chapters in a year 😂

  • @tomboywarrior3229
    @tomboywarrior3229 Год назад +114

    About Anusui, I like your theory better. People often jump to say he is trans, but I think he just being in a female form to stalk Jolyne more easily, fits him perfectly and is completely in character.

    • @superbrainz2357
      @superbrainz2357 Год назад +23

      I think the obsession over trans Anusui is just overeactive western fans who view everything in a sexual light while the real awnser is just that Araki deciding to change his mind later.
      I still see the regurgitated arguments about Araki's editors forcing him to change it to prevent Anusui from being trans and that Jolyne was meant to be a lesbian despite the fact that its been debunked so many times and Araki is very open about his works and the decisions he made during them.
      It goes from a near meme at points to simple disinformation like the people who take the "pucci is DIO's gay boyfriend" joke too far and actually think its canon.
      Yet again showing the truth to terminally online people is impossible.

    • @dermanater
      @dermanater Год назад +26

      @@superbrainz2357while Pucci is definitely not gay (in fact he can’t have any sexual or romantic relationships because he’s a priest) Araki did state that DIO was bisexual in a 2007 interview and intentionally drew them as being intimate

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio Год назад +7

      @@dermanater There's actually a bit of a misconception about that - Deacons, the lowest ranked members of the Catholic clergy, actually are allowed to have relationships but they are barred from advancement unless the marriage is annulled or the deacon becomes widowed.
      But besides that, just because he's not _supposed_ to doesn't mean he won't still have the emotions or physical attraction if he had them. Nor would it necessarily stop him from acting on them, as the many, MANY scandals of priests acting inappropriately can attest.

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams Год назад +10

      ​@@superbrainz2357
      I like the headcanon that Anusui _was_ a girl, but after realizing Jolyne was straight, changed her body into a man's body so they could be together. I wouldn't even call it "transitioning" since it's just something else entirely via use of magic psychic powers, done for entirely different reasons.
      I do agree with you tho, people trying to claim characters are gay/trans/etc as if it's literal canon is annoying. 100% okay to have a headcanon or ship for a character you like, but to try and say it was the author's intent is disrespectful.

    • @superbrainz2357
      @superbrainz2357 Год назад +2

      ​@@dermanaterEh its not that priests can't ever be secretlty involved in relationships. Its just that people take the headcanon to far too the point of actually getting offended when you point out its not real.
      I just take pucci's statement about loving DIO the same way people love God which is for many beliefs but especially sects of christianity is mainly a blend of admiration and fear out of respect.

  • @theamazingspiral
    @theamazingspiral 4 года назад +2430

    "Don't mess with us Part 6 haters, we never read Part 6"

    • @pissmonkey7340
      @pissmonkey7340 4 года назад +253

      But reading the wikipedia page is the same thing right?????

    • @joshuagraham5750
      @joshuagraham5750 4 года назад +25

      Hahaha yeah lmao

    • @D4n1-VA
      @D4n1-VA 4 года назад +18

      I read part 6, and I understand it all. It's just not written well.

    • @IndigoGrey
      @IndigoGrey 4 года назад +229

      @@D4n1-VA Translation of your comment: Because part 6 ended in a way that I didn't like, I'm gonna bitch about it and say it's badly written.

    • @pissmonkey7340
      @pissmonkey7340 4 года назад +60

      I think it’s fine to just not like something but people try to use FACTS and LOGIC to point out “plotholes” that are completely invalid

  • @americanus_ursus
    @americanus_ursus 3 года назад +1867

    Now that the anime is out, the error of Dio being out in daytime was fixed, thank DP

    • @psycho_dog33
      @psycho_dog33 2 года назад +42

      Still haven't watched the Part 6 anime, so that's good to know.

    • @fancymustache3793
      @fancymustache3793 2 года назад +10

      ​@@psycho_dog33 idk if im right but im pretty sure not all of it is out yet (tho idk if the dio scene was shown in the anime yet)

    • @psycho_dog33
      @psycho_dog33 2 года назад +21

      @@fancymustache3793 You are right, the rest of Part 6 isn't out yet. The third and last batch of episodes did get announced fairly recently, though. They're being released on the 1st of December.

    • @maccamachine
      @maccamachine 2 года назад +2

      @@psycho_dog33 hell yeah can’t wait to see how this second half gets animated it’s full of all the crazy shit

    • @striker389unknown2
      @striker389unknown2 2 года назад

      @@fancymustache3793 ruclips.net/video/ndTXrwHYSXs/видео.html It was shown already

  • @ner0987
    @ner0987 5 лет назад +216

    You guys remeber when in elementary when you had to read and then answer the questions after the test?
    These people were the ones who failed those test

    • @neoxus30
      @neoxus30 5 лет назад +1

      @Hope Bagel No, he means those that you have to read a page, and then after a predetermined time, you flip the paper and answer the questions without being able to go back to read)

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 5 лет назад +2

      It's called a "reading comprehension test"

    • @Lavamario1
      @Lavamario1 5 лет назад

      oh yeah, i failed the test, and learned from it.

  • @pommes4947
    @pommes4947 2 года назад +25

    My man Araki really decided to namedrop Rohan, getting my hopes up for no reason, and made it a haha funny. I love it lol

  • @NotoriousMohamed
    @NotoriousMohamed 5 лет назад +215

    Everyone skimmed part 6 to get to part 7 and then said part 6 was bad. Someone reads that 'part 6 is bad' and then skims through part 6 to get to part 7, then they say part 6 is bad. That's bizzare.

    • @owo4288
      @owo4288 4 года назад +7

      So in a way, part 6 suck because of part 7

    • @hektorelm4361
      @hektorelm4361 4 года назад +2

      Shiretoko In my opinion, the story Part 6 was trying to tell was better than most of the others, but it was bogged down by ridiculously and unnecessarily complicated stands. Dragon’s Dream, Sky High, and (least egregiously but still bad in my opinion) Jail House Lock all slow the pace of the part down with powers that require multiple pages or fights that are largely uninteresting. Because of them, you’re always dreading the next encounter in the fear that you’ll have to learn about a new cryptid or martial arts style. It’s hard to get invested when you’re trying to cement a concept and then just like that the stand is done with. That’s my main gripe, anyway.

    • @lukeduran12
      @lukeduran12 4 года назад +1

      Imma just say it, part 7 is one of my least favorite parts. Except for D4C Love train, Spring Mountain, Mandom, and pretty much all of Johnny and Gyro's talks it was kinda boring or just not good.

    • @NotoriousMohamed
      @NotoriousMohamed 4 года назад

      @@lukeduran12 my fav parts are 2, and 4, and 5

    • @lukeduran12
      @lukeduran12 4 года назад +1

      @@NotoriousMohamed Hell they are great, the stands just got so unique in a boom and part 2 had that quirky yet grounded taste

  • @oldkid820
    @oldkid820 5 лет назад +492

    Hohoho good luck on the D4C introduction

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 5 лет назад +7

      Xforts explained it here
      ruclips.net/video/X30YXFzq5Ys/видео.html

    • @nikolajelenkovic8887
      @nikolajelenkovic8887 5 лет назад +3

      @@slysamuel5902 ruclips.net/video/ve8eLJmBsm8/видео.html enjoy

    • @altimateguyz1016
      @altimateguyz1016 5 лет назад +5

      When I actually read it, it's not that hard to figure out what happened.

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 5 лет назад

      @@averonisgaming9023 Xforts did as well

    • @alexh2947
      @alexh2947 5 лет назад

      @@averonisgaming9023 I think he's talking about the multiple d4cs

  • @nutoothealmighty2126
    @nutoothealmighty2126 4 года назад +2320

    I seriously don't get why part 6 is so hated. Its honestly one of my favorite parts.

    • @luccabritto2566
      @luccabritto2566 4 года назад +181

      Parts 5 and 6 are my favorites, both are overhated in my opinion

    • @lukayaroslav9914
      @lukayaroslav9914 4 года назад +155

      @@luccabritto2566 Part 5 is overhated? really? I thought everyone love it

    • @luccabritto2566
      @luccabritto2566 4 года назад +190

      @@lukayaroslav9914 it's like one of the least popular on the west
      (Here on brazil it seems like ppl fucking hate it, wich is unsurprising with such a retarded population)
      Huh seems times have changed for the best

    • @meh563
      @meh563 4 года назад +207

      I feel like once part 6 get animated it will be one of the most beloved parts.

    • @yarnhatter1632
      @yarnhatter1632 4 года назад +46

      Lucca Britto Part 5 is one of my least favorite parts. The protagonist is kinda meh for me, and not that many memorable fights in my opinion. It does have Narancia and Diavolo, which are two of my favorite JoJo’s characters.

  • @linkfiedproductions2246
    @linkfiedproductions2246 2 года назад +56

    Part 6’s ending is one of the best in manga history. If you want an explanation, (I know this is stupid) but type in “JoJo’s part 6 ending with Wonderful World” and you’ll find a comment under the video that explains the flipping beauty of it’s ending. It’s so good

    • @KCaldwellBlue
      @KCaldwellBlue 2 года назад +1

      You weren’t lying my friend. Almost brought a tear to my eye

    • @gustavosanches3454
      @gustavosanches3454 Год назад

      @@KCaldwellBlue Which video is it? Which comment?

  • @hezitation4868
    @hezitation4868 4 года назад +839

    So basically Jojo fans forgot how to read when they got to part 6

    • @axellea1592
      @axellea1592 4 года назад +155

      Pucci took off their ability to read.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 4 года назад +9

      Tell me about it.

    • @mr_doomspire2813
      @mr_doomspire2813 4 года назад +12

      Made my day. Thank you

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад +80

      They got affected by Jail House Lock

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 4 года назад +28

      Killer Queen already touched their brains.

  • @AnEveryManJack
    @AnEveryManJack 4 года назад +1544

    Literally just finished Part 6 an hour ago and thought it was great. I'm not sure what the hell these haters are on.

    • @Mal0taroKujo
      @Mal0taroKujo 4 года назад +236

      They only wanted to get to part 7 fast

    • @Knuts_n
      @Knuts_n 4 года назад +29

      I'm a heathen because I caught up on part 8 before I even started reading 6 or 7

    • @mistake1197
      @mistake1197 4 года назад +21

      It's really that part 6 is so depressing that's why I hate it like even steel ball run isn't this depressing.

    • @hrevo6490
      @hrevo6490 4 года назад +108

      Mistake 119 that’s what makes it good. It would have been retarded of Made in Heaven lost in an open ocean. Weather Report is probably one of the only stands that could stop it and only because it was in an enclosed area and being off guard

    • @ewa1680
      @ewa1680 4 года назад +65

      ye, part 6 was incredible, prolly one of the best parts so far

  • @CvBurgundy
    @CvBurgundy 3 года назад +517

    Made in Heaven's ability is interesting, because it's actually still an advancement upon his Disk Theme. In order to create his new universe, he speeds up time and reaches the singularity point and loops time around back to when he kicked it off, which would lock fate in place and force everyone to accept their fated path, to achieve heaven.
    This is very similar to burning a CD of a movie and then playing it, all the actions are recorded and play out exactly how they did on the first go around. DIO and Pucci's idea of Heaven was a Movie where the audience held the script, a movie he's already seen.
    A CD in a cosmic video player, which played the same movie forever and ever til the end of time. With the only downside being that he didn't finish burning it, so it never got inserted in the first place and we only got a preview of what it would look like.

    • @CvBurgundy
      @CvBurgundy 3 года назад +85

      From this perspective one could backpedal and see that Whitesnake always perceived one's life and attributes as a movie or part of a movie of some sort, and each disk was like an outtake of certain scenes and plot points, such as how the ability to see could affect one's eventual plot. It could dissolve people in a hallucinogenic acid, which played events similar to a movie to distract them all the while. Perhaps Pucci's entire theme has always been movies and their composition, with his Made In Heaven stand being sorta like the ultimate culmination of movie-fanaticism, wherein he materialized a movie out of fate itself.

    • @blobofmeatwhoexist8460
      @blobofmeatwhoexist8460 3 года назад +36

      @@CvBurgundy Holy crap you get big brain and araki hot bigger brain because i don't even notices that even though i'm in part 8

    • @TheSilentsama
      @TheSilentsama 3 года назад +24

      Aka pucci trying to make a Pirate copy of LIFE but was stop by the police lol

    • @marcstrang6018
      @marcstrang6018 3 года назад +4

      Great way to think about it, chief

    • @qualudetribunal2347
      @qualudetribunal2347 2 года назад +1

      Genius

  • @jettisonantics
    @jettisonantics 2 года назад +67

    People really just REFUSE to give part 6 the time of day, huh?

  • @BoolioTM
    @BoolioTM 4 года назад +557

    All I learned from this video is apparently no one likes Part 6 because literally non of them read the part

    • @Aias2276
      @Aias2276 4 года назад +58

      they hear that part 7 is better and speed read it and then when they dont understand what is happening and insult part 6

    • @joemamajoestar8141
      @joemamajoestar8141 4 года назад +50

      I’m taking my time reading it after finishing part 5 anime, and it’s such a good fucking part, the haters are wack.

    • @rodanandme
      @rodanandme 4 года назад +28

      @@joemamajoestar8141 same, i really loved part 6 starting at the baseball catch game, like all parts it kinda starts a lil slow and messy, but after that point when ff is introduced, its like peak jojos for me

    • @kindadumb916
      @kindadumb916 4 года назад +16

      You know the things is..I speed read part 6 to get to part 7 and I still loved it, the characters seemed interesting, the plot was amazing and yeah it was fun to read. It was so fun that I read it twice and it was more fun the second time around. Part 6 haters are missing out.

    • @ElMango14
      @ElMango14 4 года назад +4

      @@joemamajoestar8141 I didn't read part 6 and just read part 7 and almost finished part 8. The only reason I did was because I knew what happened at the end and I tought the anime would come out but Covid happened and I was wrong that it was coming out earlier lol

  • @ViolenceCity
    @ViolenceCity 4 года назад +274

    I feel like people just read the wiki and was like "a'ight cool".

    • @blackraptor1154
      @blackraptor1154 4 года назад +2

      Violence City Just like Araki while making his stands

  • @jen1447
    @jen1447 5 лет назад +769

    Clearly Jolyne spoiling Sixth Sense is the biggest plothole of Stone Ocean and no one is talking about it

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 5 лет назад +112

      Jolyne did spoil The Sixth Sense to the people reading the manga. The volume which featured the spoiler was released shortly after the movie came out.

    • @bancon666
      @bancon666 5 лет назад +97

      Jolyne spoiled the sixth sense to the entirety of Japan.
      And people say that Araki wouldn't approve spoilers

    • @GrizonII
      @GrizonII 5 лет назад +71

      Glacier Wolf People say that a lot but it’s not really true AFAIK. The Sixth Sense came out on October 30th, 1999 in Japan, and the magazine release of “Jail House Lock! Part 4” was first in stores on December 28th, 2001, over two years later.

    • @zeroclimberchannel
      @zeroclimberchannel 5 лет назад +9

      @@bancon666 who tf is Arabi?

    • @huytungnguyen119
      @huytungnguyen119 5 лет назад +92

      @@zeroclimberchannel Araki's Muslim far cousin

  • @Sebberboi
    @Sebberboi 2 года назад +15

    Thank you for clarifying these misconceptions! I really enjoyed that you went through the ending, as I got a bit confused when I first read part 6.
    I initially thought that with Pucci resetting the timeline, he had killed off the main cast, and when Emporio killed him the timeline reverted to something akin to an alternate universe.
    But when you said that upon Pucci's defeat, the main cast was still alive and turned into better versions of themselves, it made so much more sense, and I felt I got a way clearer message for what Araki was actually going for with Part 6's ending.
    Keep on making them great videos ✊

  • @Gabriel19671969
    @Gabriel19671969 5 лет назад +315

    This videos is very necessary, part 6 is my favorite part and people seem to read it with their asses, thank you so much

    • @GalekC
      @GalekC 5 лет назад +13

      Damn, so true

    • @FieryMeltman
      @FieryMeltman 5 лет назад +19

      It definitely has my favorite ending of all parts.

    • @domecity
      @domecity 5 лет назад +32

      It has the unfortunate fate of existing between Parts 4 and 7, which are widely praised by western audiences. Part 5 was super polarizing until it got an anime adaptation, hopefully part 6 receives a similar re-branding if it ever gets picked up by DP

    • @Cream12345Ice
      @Cream12345Ice 5 лет назад +10

      Part 6 is amazing and it's sad how people fail to realise that

    • @highscoretube
      @highscoretube 5 лет назад +14

      best stands desings , best girl, best boy Anasui, best climax, Diver Down, Disney, Part 6 is a masterpiece

  • @raiseasato
    @raiseasato 4 года назад +809

    A big thing about Part 6's ending is Jolyne's name changing to Irene. She's no longer a JoJo, showing that the Joestar curse is longer following her and she will no longer experience a "Bizarre Adventure."
    A lot of people think that Jolyne, Jotaro and the others don't exist in the fixed Emporior universe but they do. They're literally the same people, just unaffected by Pucci and the events of Part 6.

    • @mediocreswiss7609
      @mediocreswiss7609 3 года назад +13

      Thats not how that works at all. Its the joestar blood not some naming convention

    • @mdahsanhussain8629
      @mdahsanhussain8629 3 года назад +218

      @@mediocreswiss7609 Dude that's just some symbolism

    • @alexs4890
      @alexs4890 3 года назад +9

      I think that even Jotaro and Jonathan are unaffected by DIO at the end of part 6 because the soul of DIO is dead in the MIN universe

    • @melon5691
      @melon5691 3 года назад +3

      @@mediocreswiss7609 what about both all 3 George joestars, both hollys, shizuka and part 8 Kira?

    • @sheeshkebab3170
      @sheeshkebab3170 3 года назад +3

      wait so in the new universe, are you saying that Jotaro and the others are still there as the exact same people

  • @Te_n_shi
    @Te_n_shi 4 года назад +659

    Why didn’t Star platinum used his secret ability and copied the ability of Made in heaven

    • @tboss9053
      @tboss9053 4 года назад +40

      Kira Yoshikage aren’t you supposed to be dead?

    • @CloutmasterPhluphyy
      @CloutmasterPhluphyy 4 года назад +62

      @@tboss9053 nah he's a ghost detective

    • @CloutmasterPhluphyy
      @CloutmasterPhluphyy 4 года назад +9

      Idk. I guess bc made in heaven didn't look like a guy who could be copied

    • @lloydink-moon4097
      @lloydink-moon4097 4 года назад +9

      I believe Jotoro is only able to 'copy' the abilities of The World as they are meant to be the same(-ish) stands.

    • @Corwart
      @Corwart 4 года назад +1

      @Jojoltaik I mean he did it to dio over heaven

  • @doubt2022
    @doubt2022 Год назад +21

    You see, White Snake's [D in Speed] refers to Deez Nuts, likely a reference to his goo ability. So we can say for certain it wasn't his actual speed.

  • @irabeck
    @irabeck 4 года назад +410

    Jotaro erased any possibility for antagonists by naming “Jolyne” “Irene” in the “What a Wonderful World” universe since there were no JoJos to fight them

    • @sezunemizuhana3870
      @sezunemizuhana3870 4 года назад +5

      Um... Then who is gonna fight the villains instead? Giorno and Josuke?

    • @irabeck
      @irabeck 4 года назад +72

      @@sezunemizuhana3870 there are no new joestars to fight the antagonists so there can be no antagonists

    • @jo2399
      @jo2399 4 года назад +10

      Whelp, the star mark is there so maybe another Joestar down the line, her kid or grandkid.

    • @S20171
      @S20171 3 года назад +1

      @@jo2399 actually, Araki rebooted the series after finishing part 6.

    • @jo2399
      @jo2399 3 года назад +4

      @@S20171 I am aware. I'm talking about it in general. No more Jojos doesn't necessarily mean no more Joestars.

  • @HiImDaisy
    @HiImDaisy 3 года назад +1526

    Araki literally making diagrams to explain stand abilities and people skip it. Lol.

    • @MlGHTY1
      @MlGHTY1 2 года назад +35

      the diagrams made sense till part 4, after that they went snowballing. How can White snake keep winning fist fights against super strong stands like Stone Ocean and Star Platinum

    • @HiImDaisy
      @HiImDaisy 2 года назад +137

      @@MlGHTY1 Oh, I wasn’t talking about the stand stats. I was talking about the diagrams that explain specific powers like Made In Heaven.

    • @hype5456
      @hype5456 2 года назад +74

      Don't mess with JoJo fans, we don't read

    • @Drakon_games12
      @Drakon_games12 2 года назад +26

      @@MlGHTY1t didn’t what scene were you watching? the first time whitesnake finds jotaro he immediately removes his stand and star platinum was already busy with protecting jolyne from getting shot by Johngallia A and when whitesnake is fighting stone free pucci clearly states he is being overpowered by stone free

    • @Gne
      @Gne 2 года назад +12

      @@Drakon_games12 the same happened against Weather, he had to be sneaky because he was completely outmatched in close quarters (and at the same time anasui was explaining this very concept for the reader's benefit)

  • @SeuSav
    @SeuSav 4 года назад +375

    Why didn't Jotaro didn't used Star Finger to go back in time and give the green baby to Spw foundation so this would never happen

    • @lauriemulsman9267
      @lauriemulsman9267 4 года назад +3

      69th like and 1st reply

    • @masarusenpai1952
      @masarusenpai1952 4 года назад +6

      I need answers

    • @SeuSav
      @SeuSav 4 года назад

      @Bonstrangleme Frost 2nd best girl

    • @jorgecorrea2762
      @jorgecorrea2762 4 года назад +1

      But Santana would fuse with the Green Baby...
      What? Do you think the SPW Foundation have something else stored?