Debunking Araki Forgot Extras 10

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
  • Taking a look at more Araki Forgot topics for the tenth installment in the Extras series.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:32 - Part 1
    2:26 - Part 2
    4:18 - Part 3
    5:39 - Part 4
    9:29 - Part 5
    13:55 - Part 6
    19:30 - Part 7
    23:26 - Part 8
    24:49 - Part 9
    26:53 - Outro
    28:32 - Patron Question
    Songs Used:
    Intro: Crazy My Beat - Coda
    Stardust Man Appears
    Mystic
    Higashikata House
    Peaceful Street Corner
    Puro
    Fire Shaman
    Purple Thorns
    Alba
    Tense
    Quirk
    Old Town
    Rocky Mountain Village
    Morioh Town
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  • @Hamon_Beat
    @Hamon_Beat  3 месяца назад +189

    Reply with your topics for a future Debunking Araki Forgot Extras video.
    Taking topics from Parts 1-8 and spin-offs like Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan.

    • @blaiseviola3318
      @blaiseviola3318 3 месяца назад +4

      (English is not my first language im Filipino)
      It is said that Tusk Act 2 can only shoot one bullet at a time but there was a time that this was inconsistent for example:During D4C Love Train part 11 when Johnny was shooting at Valentine in the Train it looks like Johnny was shooting multiple bullets at a time. I hope you include this in the next Debunking Araki Forgot.

    • @gremlinman9724
      @gremlinman9724 3 месяца назад +37

      how did gyro order a teddy bear in part 7 if the part takes place before the roosevelt presidency?

    • @damian4590
      @damian4590 3 месяца назад +5

      I might have missed something in part 3 or am just forgetting but why did dio need Joestar blood? If Johnathan's body was rejecting Dio wouldn't more Joestar blood cause more rejection of Dio

    • @exeacua
      @exeacua 3 месяца назад +8

      Since the people turning into snails thing from the Heavy Weather fight is a physical phenomena caused by a subliminal image in the light affecting the subconscious and not a stand ability itself, how can they return to normal after Weather Report is death? Or it is Implied that this has an effect only while continuously been affected by the subliminal lights?

    • @firstnamelastname8684
      @firstnamelastname8684 3 месяца назад +7

      jojolion chapter 46 shows an evolutionary tree where the rock humans are descended from primates, but in chapter 99 theyre described as a completely separate form of life

  • @normanmai7865
    @normanmai7865 3 месяца назад +1510

    I just realized that the insane Batman memes and Araki Forgot are the same type of meme. "Is there lore reason why Jotaro doesn't just punch Dio? Is he stupid?" "Is there lore reason why Man doesn't call the Justice League? Is he stupid?"

    • @donutguy804
      @donutguy804 3 месяца назад +1

      You mean "Man" memes from the "Man: Ham Aslume" games, right? Are you stupid?

    • @lppstudios3006
      @lppstudios3006 3 месяца назад +133

      Ohh shit I didn’t realize the similarities you bring up a good point which is hilarious does this mean Batman fans are JOJO fans? 🗿😭

    • @Chalepastel
      @Chalepastel 3 месяца назад

      oh please don't let the Man people in here

    • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
      @buzzlightyearpfp7641 3 месяца назад +157

      araki forgot is much funnier since theres no standard/format and its a shitload of stuff like assumptions, false memories, straight up incorrect information, or intentional lies

    • @criticaldrive97
      @criticaldrive97 3 месяца назад +19

      Okay but why doesn't he call the justice league

  • @poorlydrawnwizard
    @poorlydrawnwizard 3 месяца назад +727

    “Joseph couldn’t have a gun because he didn’t have one” is the worst argument I’ve ever seen

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 3 месяца назад +115

      ‘Joseph couldn’t have a gun because he was in New York, and they have very strict gun laws, I read it in the newspaper last week!’

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +85

      Joseph couldn't have a gun because Araki never said Tommy guns existed

    • @smartfella7914
      @smartfella7914 3 месяца назад +49

      Dude has ZERO object permanence💀

    • @theannilators7479
      @theannilators7479 3 месяца назад +92

      Joseph couldn't have a gun because he's a good guy who would never do something bad like use a gun or cheat on his wife

    • @chronic4632
      @chronic4632 3 месяца назад +55

      If any Jojo were to have a gun for no reason,its Joseph

  • @chickenlolipop7501
    @chickenlolipop7501 3 месяца назад +226

    "when will this series come to an end?"
    When people learn to fucking read 💀💀💀

    • @nomad6169
      @nomad6169 3 месяца назад +21

      Too much effort, Araki forgot

  • @thelastmlg2699
    @thelastmlg2699 3 месяца назад +447

    “I think the idea here is that keicho also doesn’t fully understand the mechanics of the arrow and just seeks random people to shoot”
    This is so funny out of context

    • @impboi6231
      @impboi6231 3 месяца назад +58

      its still pretty funny in context

    • @KansaswithaK
      @KansaswithaK 3 месяца назад +76

      He breaks into the cell of a wanted child rapist and serial killer just to give him a stand, essentially for shits and giggles

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 3 месяца назад +26

      It sounds like Keicho is some caveman who's learning what an arrow can do.

    • @roman108
      @roman108 3 месяца назад +28

      I mean, isn’t that what he was doing? Just randomly shooting arrows and hoping one of the victims can awaken a stand capable of healing/curing his father?

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 3 месяца назад +24

      @@roman108 he actually wanted to just find a stand to kill his father. And before you ask: The Hand's erasure isn't big or fast enough to completely erase Okuyasu's father before he can regenerate, although Killer Queen funnily enough could.

  • @risdio51
    @risdio51 3 месяца назад +611

    I love how you specify "as long as they haven't used the Stone Mask" as if there's any way that a frog could use the Stone Mask.

    • @shinyagumon7015
      @shinyagumon7015 3 месяца назад +159

      Maybe a tiny Stone Mask for Frogs?

    • @ScoobyFan0521
      @ScoobyFan0521 3 месяца назад +99

      ​@@shinyagumon7015 I need fanart of this immediately

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 3 месяца назад +114

      @@shinyagumon7015reminds me of that comic where kars wakes up ACDC to share his idea of vampire masks for horses

    • @eunhawannabe0304
      @eunhawannabe0304 3 месяца назад +22

      @@shinyagumon7015that’s sounds really cute

    • @Lazerlight1212
      @Lazerlight1212 3 месяца назад +46

      The vampire chariot horses from part 2 would like to have a word with you 😂

  • @manupm9161
    @manupm9161 3 месяца назад +162

    I like the idea of Keicho accidentally killing possible stand users by shooting them way too hard and causing lethal wounds that the newly awakened stand cant heal.
    It makes him look dumber than Okuyasu

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +26

      The only smart Nijimura is the one who doesn't exist in that universe.

    • @ThatOneCarrot_
      @ThatOneCarrot_ 3 месяца назад

      ​@@samlewis6487Born This Way user?

    • @frank8917
      @frank8917 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@samlewis6487 kei?

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +2

      @@frank8917 Yeah

    • @kalpanabajracharya8050
      @kalpanabajracharya8050 Месяц назад +5

      ​@samlewis6487 The fact that that's because she's not a nijimura is so funny

  • @Doom2isthebestW55
    @Doom2isthebestW55 3 месяца назад +479

    I can’t believe there’s been 10 EXTRAS

    • @JackedUpEntertainment
      @JackedUpEntertainment 3 месяца назад +87

      I think at this point people are just fucking with him

    • @ciccio7663
      @ciccio7663 3 месяца назад +8

      Lol ​@@JackedUpEntertainment

    • @riz_xx_nameless1603
      @riz_xx_nameless1603 3 месяца назад

      That just describe how dumb "Jojo fans" are

    • @reflex9238
      @reflex9238 3 месяца назад +27

      @@JackedUpEntertainmenteven then makes for good easy content for him.

    • @manobro358
      @manobro358 3 месяца назад +1

      🎉

  • @Chowder_T
    @Chowder_T 3 месяца назад +86

    2:34 That's not even a plot hole or an Araki forgot. That's just Joseph being a Looney Tune. Dude is constantly doing impossible feats of sleight of hand or pulling out new props from behind his back.

    • @gamefan14
      @gamefan14 3 месяца назад +10

      Now i can’t stop thinking of Joseph act like early daffy duck. 😸😄

    • @serenegenerally
      @serenegenerally 3 месяца назад +8

      @@gamefan14Caesar, I shlammed my peneeds in the car door

    • @yaujj65
      @yaujj65 18 дней назад +1

      Did they listen what Smokey said: “Where did he even get the Tommy Gun?!”
      The whole Tommy Gun is just a good joke

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 3 месяца назад +187

    As a side note related to Kars, I do like the idea that Kars was freed for like a brief moment during the universe reset only to be immediately sent back to his fate. Kars wouldn't be aware of it, of course, but it's still hilarious to think about.

    • @DargonVessle
      @DargonVessle 3 месяца назад +48

      one must imagine the ultimate life form happy

    • @calicobagels
      @calicobagels 3 месяца назад +7

      That actually is pretty funny

    • @limegirlx
      @limegirlx 3 месяца назад +7

      since the pillarmen can be in very mineral like states, and kars was frozen in this state for the past at least like 70 years until stone ocean, is it possible he was counted as a non organic lifeform and sped up to dust? or is he more like how santana could still absorb things after he was trapped by the swf, idk! what im saying is, how did kars get so much momentum to reach escape velocity? theres no way the volcano couldve launched him that fast even with strohiems hand thing. unless.. it was a bizarre volcano eruption..
      im biased for kars its hard for me to accept he was defeated by escape velocity

    • @atijohn8135
      @atijohn8135 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@limegirlx didn't joseph prop him up with hamon a little bit so he could escape

    • @mrcta
      @mrcta 3 месяца назад +6

      surely kars would be aware because it would take longer then 70 years for his thoughts to eventually stop. DIO lasted like a couple hundred years

  • @Zuxtron
    @Zuxtron 3 месяца назад +94

    Regarding why Dio didn't stop thinking in the coffin: the difference between him and Kars is that Kars let himself be consumed by the despair of his situation, numbing his mind and senses. Dio, meanwhile, spent that time constructively, meditating and thinking about the meaning of life (which I believe is how he came up with the Heaven plan). Another difference is that Kars might have lost all hope of ever returning to Earth, while Dio stayed optimistic about the possibility of him being found at some point in the future, giving him something to look forward to.
    The manga Dr. Stone has something similar in its premise: when all of humanity is turned to stone, most people stop thinking shortly afterwards. Those who do force themselves to keep their brains active are able to stay conscious.

  • @fugonee
    @fugonee 3 месяца назад +312

    Wouldn't the fact that Coco Jumbo is a cold-blooded creature add to the slowing of The Greateful Dead aging?

    • @willbill6942
      @willbill6942 3 месяца назад +69

      Coco Jumbo being cold blooded just means it doesn't age as quickly. Cold blooded creatures just don't generate body heat, they can still retain heat from their environment.

    • @fugonee
      @fugonee 3 месяца назад +100

      @willbill6942 yea, that's exactly my point. I'm saying it only adds to the slowing, not countering it completely. I'd say it has a similar effect on aging like the female bodies do due to being colder than male ones, only enhanced due to cold-bloodedness

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 3 месяца назад +74

      Imagine having a stand and it’s counter is *turtle*

    • @sebastianwillows
      @sebastianwillows 3 месяца назад +19

      ​@@thelastmlg2699 Notorious BIG.

    • @fugonee
      @fugonee 3 месяца назад +18

      @thelastmlg2699 Well Coco Jumbo is God incarnate, truly the most powerful being any timeline has ever witnessed, easily overpowering any being, so it would make sense it makes quick work of The Grateful Dead🙇‍♂️

  • @OtakuUnitedStudio
    @OtakuUnitedStudio 3 месяца назад +154

    "Frogs, assuming they haven't been awakened by the Stone Mask, are just normal creatures"
    That's a HELL of a sentence.
    Joseph surviving the knife in his throat is actually something that happens way more in real life than most people understand. The THROAT is not the thing that needs to be cut for a quick, fatal injury. It's damaging the carotid artery or jugular vein, the two largest blood vessels in the neck, since their large size would cause such a rapid loss of blood that it would starve the brain of oxygen. Getting stabbed in the larynx, or just below it like in the case of Joseph, would simply result in a hole in the trachea even if it ended up bleeding a lot. This is easily survivable and actually a common medical procedure called a tracheotomy, which allows individuals with obstructed airways to breath straight through that hole instead of through the mouth.
    While Coco Jumbo's exact species isn't known, he IS definitely a tortoise of some kind. Tortoises are defined as living primarily on land but are still a subset of turtles. The main physiological distinction is that tortoises have defined feet while most other turtles have flipper-like appendages.

    • @THEDeathWizard87
      @THEDeathWizard87 3 месяца назад +24

      The series even shows Giorno performing a tracheotomy on Narancia during part 5

    •  3 месяца назад +2

      And tortoises tend to have less smooth shells, right?

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio 3 месяца назад

      @ Depends. Most do, but some like in the African Spurred Tortoise have spikier shells.

  • @genericname2747
    @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +37

    Araki forgot that dinosaurs are not alive anymore, therefore Diego can't be one.
    Imagine if I was serious

  • @EmeraldSplasher
    @EmeraldSplasher 3 месяца назад +188

    I genuinely didn't believe people thought the delinquent who saved Josuke was actually Josuke.
    But no. I saw it. On Reddit. Of all places.

    • @nateohoh6974
      @nateohoh6974 3 месяца назад +27

      its the anime's fault, it has blue energy coming out of young joke's head

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +6

      I'm sorry

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 3 месяца назад +9

      ​@@nateohoh6974 yeah should've given him a different build and stuff

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +1

      @froggy2247 well. That'd certainly be an ending

    • @JustSomeDudeOnTheInternet838
      @JustSomeDudeOnTheInternet838 3 месяца назад +35

      People often like to over complicate things like with the "Kakyoin painting ability" or DIO having "Hermet Purple"

  • @DeccyBroski
    @DeccyBroski 3 месяца назад +121

    Hamon beat forgot how to end this series

    • @chickenlolipop7501
      @chickenlolipop7501 3 месяца назад +17

      It's because the average Jojo fans forgot how to pay attention 💀💀💀

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@chickenlolipop7501 And forgot that that's a bad thing

    • @trif3_599
      @trif3_599 3 месяца назад +11

      Because literacy is a gift

    • @chickenlolipop7501
      @chickenlolipop7501 3 месяца назад +3

      @@trif3_599 bros spittin 🔥

  • @theholyknight9490
    @theholyknight9490 3 месяца назад +109

    Note about the tommy gun it was one of the most common concealed weapons for mobsters at the same time part 2 takes place and while most commonly they would use violin cases but someone like joseph could 100% be able to fit a tommy gun in his coat (also he would store it without the mag but thats easy enough to do)

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 3 месяца назад +33

      I like to think it's Araki throwing a brick joke about Joseph having an unnatural ability to conceal and disguise, given that the Hermit tarot card IS partly about roguery, concealment, disguises, and camouflage, and we know Stand Users would see Hermit Purple already around him in Part 2 according to Araki.

    • @michaelmorbillionmorbius3596
      @michaelmorbillionmorbius3596 3 месяца назад +9

      It also helps that Joseph just had an altercation with a mobster like a few hours back

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, it's not hard to assume he just quickly inserted the mag off camera

    • @Rakor96ns
      @Rakor96ns 3 месяца назад

      Have you seen the guns kids sneak into US schools just i. Their jackets, pants or backpacks? Totally easy for this 2m bricked dude to hide on his back a tommy

  • @normanmai7865
    @normanmai7865 3 месяца назад +140

    "Frogs and other cold-blooded animals (assuming they haven't been awakened by the Stone Mask)" This implies the existence Froggo's Unique Exploits, and this is canon because Diavolo dies. Checkmate, Hamon Beat. (Araki has forgotten once again!)

    • @chronic4632
      @chronic4632 3 месяца назад

      Arakis Alzheimers Adventure:Dementia is Untreatable

  • @jacobmatthews7524
    @jacobmatthews7524 3 месяца назад +37

    araki forgot extras 11 is just going to be people trolling him with stupid questions

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 3 месяца назад +23

      Araki Forgot Extras 11 be like: Why did Jonathan not just kill Dio? Is he stupid?

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +19

      Stands don't exist in real life, so why does the series happen?

    • @heinzmonster
      @heinzmonster 3 месяца назад +8

      It's really hard to believe some of these aren't trolling already

    • @michaelmorbillionmorbius3596
      @michaelmorbillionmorbius3596 3 месяца назад +2

      @@heinzmonsteresp the gun part

    • @heinzmonster
      @heinzmonster 3 месяца назад +7

      @@michaelmorbillionmorbius3596 Next araki forgot "How does dio stop time when it's clear that stands aren't real"

  • @Fresh_Knight
    @Fresh_Knight 3 месяца назад +40

    my personal interpretation is that the arrow killing someone "unworthy" isn't 100% what's happening, it's awakens a stand in everyone but like shown in Holly's case, a stand can be extremely harmful or fatal to some people, so the arrow seeks out those who's spirits are worthy and strong enough to awaken a stand without dying. That's why Koichi originally was going to die by his wounds before being Josuke healed him, and why his stand started out as an egg. Echoes future hatching and growth is emblematic of him becoming spiritually strong and worth a stand's power.

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +16

      It's not that the arrow kills you for being unworthy, it's that the stand kills you for being too "weak" to handle it

    • @HuneeBruh
      @HuneeBruh 3 месяца назад

      I’m pretty sure the idea of the stand killing unworthy people is that the virus from the meteor the arrowheads are made of will kill people who don’t have the strength and grit to survive it, AKA people who are “unworthy”

    • @mariomurcia7509
      @mariomurcia7509 2 месяца назад

      most concise way of explaining the idea
      @@samlewis6487

    • @snuffysam
      @snuffysam 2 месяца назад

      And you see this in other ways too, like how if you try to insert Star Platinum’s stand disk, it’ll punch itself out if your willpower isn’t strong enough.
      The SBR canon has its own version of this - most characters who go into a devil’s palm just get a stand with no consequences, but weaker spirits like Daiya will lose something in exchange

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 3 месяца назад +50

    Your point about using your lips as a way to dispense Hamon is further supported by Caesar using his lips to brainwash that one woman to attack Joseph. He, of course, could have used his fingers to administer the Hamon, but you know he's a weirdo.
    Also, not only is Okuyashu's father clearly not a vampire, but I would also like to point out that there's actually a pretty big difference between literally having someone's cells implanted in you and just being their descendant. From my point of view, Giorno has 0% DIO cells in his body.
    I think a lot of people also forget that the Arrow carries some kind of alien pathogen that the person it is used on either adapts to by developing a Stand or dies, succumbing to the disease. I really love how there is also a purely scientific explanation for the Arrow "judging" people, since a major point of the series is how science and esoteric are often just two sides of the same coin, like gravity and fate being one and the same.

    • @jacobmatthews7524
      @jacobmatthews7524 3 месяца назад +6

      with the arrow, the thing that determines whether or not people die from the disease is not the disease or the arrow itself, but the spiritual power of the victim, which is why koichi was going to die from it and even when healed had such a weak stand at first (literally just an egg)

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +5

      The original commenter clearly doesn't realize that DNA and cells are not the same thing. It's fully possible that the effect of the vampire cells is created by some part of the cell outside of the DNA or even a part of the cell that normal human cells don't have at all.

  • @chrono9503
    @chrono9503 3 месяца назад +77

    Coco jumbo is a tortoise. Turtles have flippers and/or a flatter shell, and richer skin (usually). Tortoises have legs, domed shells, and desaturated skin.
    Coco Jumbo is a tortoise, but technically a turtle too because tortoises are a subclass of turtles. The more you know.

    • @jacobmatthews7524
      @jacobmatthews7524 3 месяца назад +2

      snakes are also a type of lizard

    • @chrono9503
      @chrono9503 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jacobmatthews7524 How old are you?

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад

      He was a turtle in the manga, it's an anime mistake that made him a tortoise

    • @DanielFerreira-ez8qd
      @DanielFerreira-ez8qd 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@samlewis6487 It's a tortoise, by its appearance in the manga it's definitely a tortoise.

    • @mariomurcia7509
      @mariomurcia7509 2 месяца назад +1

      on top of that, turtles will die or be serverely ill if they dont have constant access to water, and the gang never showed him in a tank of any sort so we can assume he doesnt need water to live, at least other than for consumption

  • @Jarethttorney
    @Jarethttorney 3 месяца назад +29

    Before being launched into space there was nothing stopping Kars from making a frog sized stone mask, so he could have made one if he really wanted to. Another thing that helps Joseph is while yes he took a knife to the throat it was not removed preventing some of the blood loss allowing him to survive longer.

  • @samlewis6487
    @samlewis6487 3 месяца назад +10

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your question starts with "this isn't really an Araki Forgot" then it isn't for this series. Glad you're introducing a series to actually answer those.

  • @kirbyofthestarsfan
    @kirbyofthestarsfan 3 месяца назад +15

    Lang Rangler being the least favorite of Part 6 at the end is very ironic to me, considering that was the fight that made me hooked completely into Stone Ocean during my first blind read of it

  • @boinqity4621
    @boinqity4621 15 дней назад +3

    the idea that keicho just didn't know how the arrow worked and may have accidentally murdered multiple people who could have helped his father with their stands is hilarious to me

  • @DamianQualshy
    @DamianQualshy 3 месяца назад +49

    This gives me an idea..
    If the Arrow has the mind of his own and Keicho was using the Bow instead, that means that the Arrow follows Fate/Gravity and the Bow is a tool that allows to bend the Arrow's movement to the will of the user. However we know that Justice always prevails.
    And that means that if Koichi didn't get the Stand then, he would later, a different one, or not at all and someone else would stop Kira, yada-yada.
    The Bow just gives me the King Crimson vibes in terms of bending the fate to your favor.

    • @emmychansuper
      @emmychansuper 3 месяца назад +1

      I think Koichi would still get the stand.

    • @DamianQualshy
      @DamianQualshy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@emmychansuper but would it be Echoes? Would it be separated by Acts which represent Koichi's growth? Kira would still be defeated for sure, but not under the same circumstances.

    • @emmychansuper
      @emmychansuper 3 месяца назад +6

      @@DamianQualshy I think he would still get Echoes.
      It's a nice thought to play around with AUs.

    • @DamianQualshy
      @DamianQualshy 3 месяца назад +3

      @@emmychansuper When you have a specific timeline that happens one way and when Fate is concerned can't happen any other way it is indeed very amusing to think "What if..?"

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 3 месяца назад +7

      @@emmychansuper If we take a wild guess based on DIO and Alternate Diego, and both Yoshikage Kiras and Rohan Kishibes, then people really ARE fated to always default to the same Stand (but allowed to have different takes on their ability) unless something hijacks their "natural Stand slot" (for lack of a better term) and shoves a "wrong" Stand into place (like Diego getting Ferdinand's Scary Monsters and that either overwriting or forcing THE WORLD dormant).

  • @dusty_curtains
    @dusty_curtains 3 месяца назад +83

    This series will never end lmao

    • @bill-bath9621
      @bill-bath9621 3 месяца назад +12

      That’s because Jojo fans can’t read

    • @Zuxtron
      @Zuxtron 3 месяца назад +11

      Two things are infinite: the universe, and JoJo fans' stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.

    • @TheRedMage01
      @TheRedMage01 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ZuxtronPucci wanted to find a universe with smart JoJo fans in Part 6.

    • @ashergad9278
      @ashergad9278 3 месяца назад +3

      @@bill-bath9621 i think anime fans in general just can't read (jojo fans, dbz fans, and one piece fans just as a few examples)

  • @Anthintendo
    @Anthintendo 3 месяца назад +7

    That first one really got to me, because I regularly spend ten to fifteen minutes a week sometimes thinking about when Zeppeli punches the frog.

  • @edmondmartinez9617
    @edmondmartinez9617 3 месяца назад +7

    I love that you have made such an engaging series entirely based upon actually reading and watching the material to answer questions from people who didnt. I'm a dub anime only and most of your questions you get i got answered by watching the show lol. Just glad you have been able to take this and make it something truly enjoyable.

  • @ethmanolboy6816
    @ethmanolboy6816 3 месяца назад +16

    Also, with cocojumbo, turtles/tortoises are cold blooded, and we've been shown that coldness reverses/stops Greatful Dead's ability.

    • @smartfella7914
      @smartfella7914 3 месяца назад +4

      Plus tortoises live to like 150 years old, some way older too. So increased aging probably wouldn’t affect him that badly

    • @ethmanolboy6816
      @ethmanolboy6816 3 месяца назад +4

      @@smartfella7914 yeah exactly, so either way, wouldn't affect cocojumbo

    • @thuannghia1212
      @thuannghia1212 3 месяца назад +1

      Cold blooded doesn't mean actually cold blood, but blood that heats up and cools down depend on the surrounding environment, instead of hot blood which has a constant temperature. Other points still stand tho.

  • @it6647
    @it6647 3 месяца назад +4

    0:32-Hamon on cold-blooded frogs
    1:34-Hamon doesn't pass through only hands or feet
    2:26-Joseph's Tommy Gun
    3:13-Why send Kars into the volcano?
    4:18-How did Joseph survive a knife to the throat?
    5:40-Why didn't Rohan not know about Josuke's hair complex?
    7:34-Why didn't Kira destroy the hand seen by Shigechi?
    8:02-Why not deactivate Bites The Dust once everyone's dead?
    9:28-Giorno and DIO's vampiric cells
    10:12-Why did the turtle not age?
    10:55-Stand arrow's judgment
    13:55-Versus' stand awakening time
    15:20-wHY did Versus not destroy the seats of the airplane?
    15:59-How can Emporio control Weather Report?
    16:27-Changes in Ireneverse
    17:34-How does Ireneverse's Weather Report exist?
    18:24-wHY did DIO not stop thinking?
    19:30-Hot Pant's horse
    20:08-Is D4C really Done Dirt Cheap?
    21:15-DIEGO's The World cooldown
    23:26-Kira, Holy, and Locacaca
    24:50-The JoJoLands and TSKR

  • @tristandaries1129
    @tristandaries1129 3 месяца назад +24

    Realistically, Kars shouldn’t have been able to survive the volcano since he can only use the powers as any living animal, and there are none which can survive magma, which Joseph probably knew. So it was a pretty smart move considering how little time Joseph had to think

    • @ThatOneCarrot_
      @ThatOneCarrot_ 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, I'm pretty sure the abilities get buffed due to the pillar powers.

    • @pizzastopstime
      @pizzastopstime 2 месяца назад

      This thing might be able to but I'm not sure ---> Scaly-foot gastropod

  • @veemon7773
    @veemon7773 Месяц назад +3

    Even if Joseph knew that he couldnt kill Kars he still had to try to do something.
    Related to this, sorta, is when the military shoot at a kaiju in a kaiju movie, they know they can´t hurt it, they still have to try.

  • @conmcg
    @conmcg 3 месяца назад +15

    this reminds me of my friend big dak, when he activates his stand. kids with guns

  • @AKWHiDeKi
    @AKWHiDeKi 3 месяца назад +11

    It's so nice of you to clear up misconceptions that both new and old JoJo fans may have. Keep up the great work!

  • @Aceken23
    @Aceken23 3 месяца назад +42

    Araki forgot that Diego is my husband

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 3 месяца назад +7

      Are you an old woman close to die with a lot of money he can inherit by killing you and making it look like an accident? If not then he is not your husband. Sorry to break the news

    • @Aceken23
      @Aceken23 3 месяца назад +8

      @@lordfreezer5631 :(. A man can dream

  • @skeepodoop5197
    @skeepodoop5197 3 месяца назад +4

    10:51
    On top of having a long life span, both turtles and tortoises are cold blooded, thus don't make body heat naturally, and get their body heat from the surrounding environment. Thus unless they are in an especially hot environment, Grateful Dead likely won't do anything.

  • @l3onardomgbr
    @l3onardomgbr Месяц назад +2

    im starting to realise a corcerning amount of forget moments are just:
    "why does this thing i made up/my insane lack of comprehention, create a plot hole??? explain that hamon boy!!"

  • @kaialone
    @kaialone 3 месяца назад +2

    The "Giorno should be a vampire cause his dad is one" also has me scratch my head, cause even in irl, there are vampire myths where the child of a vampire father and human mother (a dhampir) is in fact not like a vampire at all, and is more like a human with some enhanced skills, which is very much in line with what Giorno is like

  • @TheJeevo92
    @TheJeevo92 3 месяца назад +7

    This dude has never heard of a Tracheotomy... (dude who talked about Joseph being stabbed in the throat)

  • @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre
    @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre 3 месяца назад +7

    Some of these feel like people played the Roblox Jojo Fangames A Universal Time and Your Bizarre Adventure and thought that those were canon to the series and contradictions to them (things Araki has zero influence over) are contradictions of canon. I can’t be certain that’s what happened, but it sure does feel that way.

  • @alyendragon4209
    @alyendragon4209 18 дней назад +1

    Another point about the grateful dead aging the turtle is that the rate of aging is based on body heat, and because turtles are cold blooded the turtle might not have even been affected.

  • @metalsnake262
    @metalsnake262 3 месяца назад +7

    Thanks so much for these videos hamon beat❤

  • @ThiagoBv
    @ThiagoBv 3 месяца назад +4

    Another great Hamon Beat video never fails to make my day!

  • @Jokin_Jake
    @Jokin_Jake 3 месяца назад +8

    To all the viewers lemme ask you this: How many Hamon Beat Araki Forgot videos do y'all think we will get before Steel Ball Run Anime releases? I'll wager 6 episodes.

  • @SuikoRyos
    @SuikoRyos Месяц назад +1

    Another point about the Bites the Dust part: Kira himself states that he isn't aware of when Bites the Dust resets time. He even says to Hayato (paraphrasing): "who did you kill?" and "judging by your reaction, this must be at least the second time you looped". He doesn't know who Bites the Dust kills, when it kills or how many times it has killed. It is literally an autonomous Stand.

  • @Screw064
    @Screw064 3 месяца назад +1

    I watched pretty much every video related to this series in 1-2 days cuz it just felt so good to hear yap that I can keep up w. Just know that I appreciate the fact that this is still going but in words that I can’t even find fr. I love jojo. I love this.

  • @pieapplebomb
    @pieapplebomb 3 месяца назад +3

    11:00 LOOK GARY, THERE I AM!
    To be honest, i wasn't super familiar with the exact events of the flashback in part 5. I'm mostly anime only, and while I did read the part 5 manga, that was years ago, before the part 5 anime came out, with a poorly done translation, and i've also only watched all the way through the part 5 anime once. I didn't remember exactly how the alien virus killed people, and had never considered that it'd be possible for Josuke to heal Koichi and for him to potentially still die afterwards due to it.

  • @GoyBenius_0901
    @GoyBenius_0901 3 месяца назад +3

    Given that Hamon is channeled through your extremities there is a non-zero chance that Jonathan blew a hamon-charged load into Erina when they conceived George II.

  • @fiascothe63rd
    @fiascothe63rd 3 месяца назад +1

    These uploads always make my day. Thanks for making this series, man. It's always fun to see what new problem people have invented by not checking the source material before posting.

  • @aylmaoxdxddd5687
    @aylmaoxdxddd5687 3 месяца назад +1

    My heart and actions are utterly unclouded they are all those of happiness whenever i see you post another “Debunking Araki forgot extras”

  • @The_Wosh
    @The_Wosh 3 месяца назад +6

    2:01 so it is possible to project hamon from the d

  • @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307
    @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307 3 месяца назад +3

    that would be extremely funny if for some reason there was just a hard rule for D4C that it cant bring money between universes for no reason. Literally everything else, but holy corpses and loose change are a no go.

    • @jerichtandoc7789
      @jerichtandoc7789 3 месяца назад +1

      Inflation is a bitch, and D4C doesn't want to contribute to it

    • @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307
      @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307 3 месяца назад +2

      In true jojo fashion this would lead to them beating valentine by like, gluing some money to him and restricting his ability to hop dimensions

  • @giannadidino
    @giannadidino 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel so special because my comment was picked up! 🤩 I love this channel! Keep doing amazing videos ❤️

  • @convenient_username7357
    @convenient_username7357 3 месяца назад +2

    ive honestly learned and remembered more about jojo from hamon beat than ive learned anything in my entire academic life

  • @GalekC
    @GalekC 3 месяца назад +3

    lang rangler is one of my favorite fights of the series in general. both that & c-moon are the closest we've gotten to jojo battles in outer-space & i am all for that

  • @blueberryelf1150
    @blueberryelf1150 3 месяца назад +4

    In part 8, how could the doctor rock human group hack and listen through Josuke's phone at the end of the Dolomite fight without knowing who he was?

  • @MapleZer0
    @MapleZer0 3 месяца назад +1

    had food and couldn't find a video. went to my notifications and saw this. what a blessing

  • @Mcl_Blue
    @Mcl_Blue 3 месяца назад +1

    This new series really is long overdue. Excited to see what comes out of it.

  • @BittyDuster
    @BittyDuster 3 месяца назад +3

    Jolly good show!

  • @Ironwolf-pm7zs
    @Ironwolf-pm7zs 3 месяца назад +3

    Why didn't Josuke just use Crazy Diamond to fix the town's lackluster police system?

  • @theweedishchef420
    @theweedishchef420 3 месяца назад +2

    Definitely my favourite series of yours!

  • @tollutollu
    @tollutollu 3 месяца назад +1

    I always like these. It's nice having videos made by a damn expert and you try to be as even-headed and factual as possible (considering how many people will spread straight up misinformation).

  • @dutch_asocialite
    @dutch_asocialite 3 месяца назад +5

    11:02 Holy shit, that's an actually interesting question in Debunking Araki Forgot!

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 3 месяца назад +3

    You should go over why each Stand has the stats they do.

  • @Sylvie-hx7vs
    @Sylvie-hx7vs 2 месяца назад +2

    I personally think everyone injured by the arrow takes a stand. However, if you arent strong enough the stand will just overpower and kill you, like the electricity stand in part 5, or Hollys stand

  • @gianghuynh9570
    @gianghuynh9570 Месяц назад +1

    Coco Jumbo is also a cold-blooded reptile, which means his body temperature would be much cooler than a human body and as such unaffected by Graceful Death.

  • @roy-cyber
    @roy-cyber 3 месяца назад +8

    Ok but he definitely forgot about them tiny horses 💀

  • @user-vy4bx2il5w
    @user-vy4bx2il5w 3 месяца назад +3

    Whe need steel ball run anime announced 😢😭😭😭❤

  • @BiggyMalk
    @BiggyMalk Месяц назад +1

    About the aging turtle it was said in the show to be from heat turtles are cold blooded

  • @trollfack2966
    @trollfack2966 3 месяца назад +2

    You are my second favourite RUclipsr after the previous second died. Keep it up

  • @Chumimin444
    @Chumimin444 3 месяца назад +6

    In one of your Araki Forgots you said that Josuke couldn't restore Yoshikage Kira's button back to his outfit, but in Okuyasu and Josuke's fight scene against Shigechi, Josuke was able to bring the Pipes back to place, Harvest didnt broke the pipes, he Just Unscrewed it, It did not break

    • @SAGENT2
      @SAGENT2 3 месяца назад +8

      Went over that in a previous extras videos

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 3 месяца назад +3

      Already covered. The logic is that the screws are an integral part of the pipe's functioning and therefore it could be fixed back.
      Meanwhile, the lack of a button does not prevent the jacket from being a jacket.

    • @Chumimin444
      @Chumimin444 3 месяца назад

      Sorry for bad English

    • @Chumimin444
      @Chumimin444 3 месяца назад

      Another thing, When the Stardust Crusaders entered Dio's mansion it was daytime, when they left there during the fight against Dio it was already night, and at the end of the fight it was already dawn, how is that possible?

  • @DuranmanX
    @DuranmanX 3 месяца назад +3

    I almost feel like Stand Arrow works like eugenics by giving those worthy powers and allowing it to pass to their descendants

  • @carelessanonymous6570
    @carelessanonymous6570 2 месяца назад +1

    10:53
    Although Mista makes it fairly clear that Coco Jumbo isn't affected by The Grateful Dead because of the long life span of turtles, I think there is more to it. Giant tortoises and turtles have exceptionally long lives but smaller ones typically have life spans of about 20 years.
    Perhaps because reptiles are cold-blooded, Coco Jumbo may have a lower internal body temperature and age more slowly, as it is made clear during the fight that lower body temperature reduces the rate of aging.

  • @thedctr
    @thedctr 3 месяца назад

    Answering wiewers hypotheticals is a great idea!! I'm sure by now you have raised community that knows JoJo well enough and has a lot of intresting ideas I would love to hear your opinions on!

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 3 месяца назад +4

    My question is, why and how does Araki forget? Why can't he call back to literally everything in every part like it was one piece or better call saul?

  • @lampshade6579
    @lampshade6579 3 месяца назад +4

    I watched parts 1-6 though dubbed anime highlights on youtube and flipped through the pictures of parts 7-9. So if you're so smart, tell me why Dio never uses his bubble blast from part 2 again, during his fight with JoJo in part 3 where he could've gotten soap in his eyes to tell him if he was sleeping or not? Is he stupid? also I can't believe you glossed over how Araki forgot Dio is supposed to be a big oily Chad when he wrote part 4, and made him a skinny soyboy in a suit and retconned The World into a stupid cat with the name Murder Princess. Also why is Josuke's mom hot? I can't believe people actually like this garbage series. Beyblade Metal Fusion is way better.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад +4

      Beyblade is only good anime, because it has beyblades

    • @lampshade6579
      @lampshade6579 3 месяца назад +1

      @@genericname2747 That's what I'm saying.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад

      @@lampshade6579 solidarity

  • @colbytallau1540
    @colbytallau1540 2 месяца назад +1

    Also, for the Cocojumbo point, its cold blooded in a shaded area. So It's body temp should still be pritty low. (At least lower than a human's in that heat.) So that could also attribute to it's lack of aging. Atleast thats what I thought.

  • @mrreyes5004
    @mrreyes5004 3 месяца назад +2

    To add to the point about Time Stop having a cooldown, the actual physical states of the user might also have an effect. Jotaro had only just gotten his Time Stop back up to five seconds right after getting out of a coma and racing straight to the battle as a 40-year old man who hadn't been using Time Stop much in the years after Part 4. Meanwhile, Diego is a much younger man who has obviously been using his Stand more consistently (by comparison) through his life, and DIO was a superhuman vampire with Jonathan's body being one of the most hilariously fit.
    Considering that constant use/disuse of Time Stop and bodily health are already known to affect Time Stop's length, it's not hard to conclude that Diego and DIO could also have somewhat shorter cooldown times than Part 6 Jotaro. Both of them were closer to their "prime" states, and both of them had been using/training their Time Stop more than Part 6 Jotaro had at the time. So the two of them possibly having shorter cooldowns between Time Stops than Jotaro at that moment makes sense.

    • @pizzastopstime
      @pizzastopstime 2 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps it's somewhat like a muscle. Constant use will allow it to grow and stopping its use will cause the ability to atrophy.

  • @amazinggoob9108
    @amazinggoob9108 3 месяца назад +4

    I wonder how many of these are caused by poor translation into other languages. Stuff like the coldblooded thing really feels like that could be the cause.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 месяца назад

      People aren't dumb, the translation is dumb

  • @schlopusmodangle
    @schlopusmodangle 3 месяца назад +3

    Debunking Liberals Part 10

  • @MrEnKaye
    @MrEnKaye 3 месяца назад +2

    Man, these videos are a rolling funeral for reading comprehension

  • @YatogamiLuca
    @YatogamiLuca 3 месяца назад

    I love the videos where you answer questions

  • @lynx4082
    @lynx4082 3 месяца назад

    I have to say I'm very grateful for these videos clarifying a lot because I was someone who misunderstood the ending to Part 6 and dropped the series entirely because I thought part 1-5 had been undone and that Part 8 Josuke was the same Josuke from part 4.

  • @foranzo1582
    @foranzo1582 3 месяца назад +1

    Woooooo, episode 10 of silly questions!! 🎉 Bring out the champagne 🥂 I'll never get bored of these, even the plain dumb conclusions from Jareds, 19 😆

  • @jamescallanan2443
    @jamescallanan2443 3 месяца назад +1

    So happy my comment got in here! And the explanation makes total sense

  • @graysonwells551
    @graysonwells551 3 месяца назад +1

    7:36 I think this question is more asking why he didn't explode the hand during the countless opportunities he would have had trying to get it back. Though, the answer to that would be that Kira simply decided he wanted to retrieve it, regardless of the risk of getting caught. It's just a character decision

    • @ChaosAngel9151
      @ChaosAngel9151 3 месяца назад +2

      He still wanted to keep it for a while until he found a new victim

  • @luckiestmom9308
    @luckiestmom9308 3 месяца назад

    Hey ham on beat. I just want to say keep up the good work. I'm always happy when I see a new araki forgot video. On the topic however, have you ever seen a comment that did address something araki DID forget? If so could you make a video compiling stuff araki actually forgot.

  • @MaxonerousX
    @MaxonerousX 3 месяца назад +1

    About Coco Jumbo, it's more likely that it doesn't age because it is cold-blooded. If a tiny temperature difference between humans significantly lessens the effects of Grateful Dead, then a cold-blooded animal probably would be barely affected, if at all

  • @ibidysphoriaqueen
    @ibidysphoriaqueen 3 месяца назад +1

    also for the case of coco jumbo: turtles have a lower body temperature than humans so it wouldn't even be effected that much

  • @HankGlamorous
    @HankGlamorous Месяц назад +1

    i think part of the issue is people disagree with the choices araki makes, and the bizarreness of the whole show can make those choices seem arbitrary and open to peoples own head canons to make it make sense to them

  • @dude135791000
    @dude135791000 3 месяца назад

    hyped for the new series of videos

  • @SonicSpeedGaming759
    @SonicSpeedGaming759 3 месяца назад +1

    Coco Jumbo is also cold blooded and the stand ability goes away when someone gets cold so the fact that he was cold blooded might've also played a factor

  • @bananabanana484
    @bananabanana484 3 месяца назад +1

    What’s crazy about this series is that the topics get more interesting! Like, how?

  • @marleonka.
    @marleonka. 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel like Dio's coffin makes an appearance in every single video

  • @ramz7609
    @ramz7609 3 месяца назад +1

    how many universes do you think could be in jojo? if we count universe resets, kiras btd splitting timelines theory, and other universes in the sbr verse, and could the differences in the anime, manga, and ova adaptations be different universes? how many could we count? i had this thought a while ago but im not motivated enough to comb through all of jojo for it, i hope it makes for a fun video topic to disect though! :)

  • @enocescalona
    @enocescalona 3 месяца назад

    thanks a lot dude, i been wanting to see how would you answer/analyze how the time stop works for Diego. Thank you.

  • @challengeaccepted5613
    @challengeaccepted5613 3 месяца назад +2

    i have a small question concerning the main universe versions of parts 7, 8 and 9. you think that versions of the late part characters exist/ existed in the main universe as well? aside from character counterparts of course, like the zeppelis and the joestars.

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 3 месяца назад +3

      It's possible but not necessary

    • @challengeaccepted5613
      @challengeaccepted5613 3 месяца назад +2

      @lordfreezer5631 it's just a small curiosity of mine. Like,If funny valentine did exist in the main timeline, could we have the events of part 7 with a filler character instead of Johnny?

  • @ZAGOLDENRATIO
    @ZAGOLDENRATIO Месяц назад +2

    Yo hamon beat i have a question. During the secco and buccaratis fight. At one point secco throws a buck of mud spear thingy and they perice buccarati and he was in pain but few moments later he immune to the pain again

    • @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307
      @bravedanganronpacowardspar3307 Месяц назад +2

      I think its more like he's more reacting to/shocked at his body taking damage, which still is a concern for him. But im pretty sure he's still not feeling pain at this point considering he's underreacting to rock spears going through his neck and such and can keep on trucking afterwards without slowing down much.