hey lucky. i'd like to touch on the transmog system in wow. if they implement a mog system like eso, where players can mog the slot the gear goes in, not the gear itself. this would reduce the amount of trips to the mog vendor because your gear will stay mogged no matter what piece is in the slot! let's get it noticed!
I dislike subs. Graphics are always the same with its usual monotonic atmospheric color selection for the area/region. WoW never wanted to adopt the play-for-free system like Gw2 and I do not classify playing for free to lvl 20 being anything close to 'PFF.' I started playing this game roughly 8 months before BC was coming out. I love the old content. But after cat and the lunatic dev burning everything down and vilifying Sylvanas, the game was really harmed and many left over it. Many of us have strong memories to its early days and many left for good wile others come to try new expansion only to leave it once again. There are many great things about WoW hands down.. GW2 and WoW both have incorporated many similar new game play like the new flying system, bears as characters, etc. I finished at Dragonflight and have not purchased the new expansions since I decided to play GW2. Less toxic. There are pros and cons to any game and WoW will always be special to me. But with friends all gone long ago, and the meeting o0f my76 f9iance at the time for 8 years from the game and now gone as well, it is just too lonely and feels like drudgery to play.
@@Armadan7 if its objectively better (lol, lmao) then why is it objectively less succesful in any way shape and form 😂😂also not even the most avid gw2 fan thinks the gryphon is better, its the opposite
@@johnaldjensen4617 GW2 and WoW have different scope because they intend to occupy different niche markets. And yes, the griffon is WAY better than dragon riding, while it's more limited, it's not janky, it actually fits in the level design, the mount system in general makes it a better experience and still requires a bit of a journey to unlock (I see this as a nice thing).
@@johnaldjensen4617 if anyone likes wow more than gw2 or vice versa so be it but comparing wow mounts to gw2 lol dont even try :D gryphon is hard to control sure but still by far the most fun to ride in any game
"...they might go back and clear some of the old content for cosmetics and mounts." I tried WoW Classic Season of Discovery a few months ago hoping to reignite that flame of adventure and discovery that I had when I was in middle school during WotLK. All I was met with was this type of mindset, doing stuff just to have stuff, people bitterly doing the same stuff over and over to get the stuff needed for the next stuff. I wish people would go back and 'clear old content' because the stories and places were magical and whisked you away from life's troubles. Not for cosmetics and mounts.
I was actually trying to research how a new player (myself) would start to go through the game. It seems like it's "lvl to max and funnel into the newest expac." Not really exploring and having fun progressing through zones and old content. (I'm a FF14 player and dabble in GW2 where old content is ALWAYS relevant.)
@@SpartanTAP A brand-new player would get funneled into the latest expansion, yes. As a veteran, I enjoy taking breaks from The Current Expansion by making a new character and doing a deep-dive into an old expansion to revisit all the stories and lore. That new character might get deleted once its immersive journey is complete (at level 50 they're saved permanently if you want to un-delete them later) but it's a fun way to explore a different continent without being overpowered. I also avoid the "heirloom gear" that levels up with you and is fairly powerful; mindlessly three-shotting mobs isn't my idea of fun 😅 I believe some MMOs, like GW2, were designed to allow all expansions to stay relevant as new ones were added. WoW wasn't built that way, and I don't foresee Blizzard going backward and trying to add the systems necessary to do that retroactively.
There were grumpy "veteran" players when WotLK dropped. It's an issue you wouldn't normally run into because these people don't have lives outside the game except on Reddit.
@@MiaogisTeas The grumpy veteran player shouldn't just be dismissed. There are probably legitimate reasons. Being passive aggressive is 12 year old maturity at best. Trolls are not grumpy veterans, just as much as presupposition is not fact. Give people a chance. The video here itself is just word salad anyways. If you don't want to read why, then don't be judgemental and dismissive. The reason why you don't normally "run into" it is because people have lives, and go do something else and not whine like woke children who make up reasons why people are not having a great time.
Here's a con: Coming from WoW classic, Retail lacks the feeling of a greater community that realms used to give. For example, coming across the same person multiple times in the game world even though we're doing different things.
Yeah and damn i miss the days of the groups that ran "For Azaroth" or "for the Horde" invading the cities for the bear mount....for to much fun trying to get a counter group up and figure out when to pounce and what to do when we get our ass kicked. Good times long gone
It's not just that. I really want to get in to retail but I finally got to my first dungeon and it was over in 15 minutes...Nobody spoke to eachother, if was just a mindless speed run. I was so let down by that. I remember doing a dungeon used to be an experience where people would chat to eachother about how to do things, now a dungeon is finished in the blink of an eye.
Yes because classic wow is the only true MMORPG that encourages grouping and joining a guild to do raids. Every other MMO has a queue button to just send you to a dungeon instantaneously but in classic wow you have to walk or mount up to the dungeon, or be summoned.
Long time FFXIV player starting in WoW last Friday. Im having a blast honestly. Last time i sat down to play WoW was in 2009. BFA is a slog but after that its pretty good. Currently transmog hunting. Edit. They updated Dragonflight as the leveling expansion for new players. Much much better than BFA. Also one you hit Lvl 50 and are exaulted with you corresponding faction Alliance or Horde you get Heritage armor for the race you are currently playing as as transmog account wide. The orc set is amazing.
The negativity is hard to escape in the comments sections, but I've really enjoyed this expansion so far. I like the tone and the world building for this. I know it's early days to say anything definitely about whether it is good or not, but at least it's a bit more time actually playing it than people who haven't tried it at all discouraging others from playing.
@@nzwj I agree. It's hard to escape negativity. People hate on anything nowadays. Especially the people who puff on the Blizzard hate gas 24/7. Yeah we get it they aren't how they were in the early 2000's. Move on.
would you say it's worth to get back into. been debating as well for some time to get back into WoW after playing FF14 for so long. my only prob is i'm worried about the story content since that's one thing i enjoy most for games. other is that idk what i would want to come back and play as. one nice thing about FF14 was that you could have all the jobs/classes on one character.
I'm a current ff14 player and I've really been thinking of trying out WoW. I haven't played it in many years. Good to see a fellow ff14 player trying it out.
@@Cordaran As an altoholic, I HATED that about FF14, haha. I enjoy having alts of varying races and capabilities; WoW's new Warband feature also took away my persistent "Should I play as Horde, or Alliance?" conundrum...now all my characters are on one list, regardless of server, so I play them equally. Manually swapping realms (which took maybe 7 seconds) was too hard 😂
As somebody who’s always wanted to play WoW but never wanted to go back and play the old expansions, this made me buy and try it. So far level 72 frost mage and having a good time. Playing only new content with others also makes me feel good. I can finally say I enjoy WoW.
If you are already blown away then you'd probably jump out of the window if you kept playing all the shit expansions that came after TBC/WOTLK and witnessed the entire shit show called Blizzard and it's psycho devs/staff just to end up being some psycho illuminati reptillian riding a dragon. There are literally not enough cow teets on this entire planet to compare to how much Blizzard has been milking this game throughout the years.
I feel WoW has become so much about transmog, decking out your character and them focusing on that. Same as alot of games nowadays with skins. What happened to simple gaming lol
@@Wft-bu5zc it was pretty fun back in the day recognizing how powerful a character was just by how their gear looked. weak characters looked weak, because their armor was weak. it's just different now when characters with absolutely terrible stats can look just as strong as a max geared character. personally, I prefer the former. looking bad was part of the reason I wanted to gear up
Transmog was a mistake, they should bring back systems that actually matter, like reforging. Instead of cosmetic junk, a big part of looking cool should be because you EARNED the cool gear. If you want to look like a badass, do badass things, not farm old content that be done by a cat walking over the key board.
I have a Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne in my heart....whatever they do they will never be able to make me stop loving this world... it's my home... even if I haven't been there for decades
I think your comment of 'i miss the journey' is what will stop me from returning. I used to love wandering and exploring, finding the scenes and stories hidden away off the beaten track and the excitement of moving on to a new zone. Now it just seems like a race to instanced content.
No, the class set restriction is not removed as of 11.0. it may be removed for the first patch but it is not removed yet because I was running night hold last night. Got the death knight class set drops on my warrior and got the warrior class set drops on my death knght. Always always always. The armor type is no longer restricted but the class sets still are.
I wish that there was possibility to start journey (even solo) to play expansions as they were released, one by one, so new players could catch with the entire lore, and also allow players to experience all the content that the expansions had to offer, including raids. As person who never played World of Warcraft, I can imagine that old content raids/dungeons can be unavailable or not playable due to lack of people doing it, because it is old content. The lowered versions of the raid could be perfect for new players wanting to just test raids, so they can even complete it solo (with NPC as companions). There could be no loot at all, just to check what were mechanics of the bosses and what was in the raids. (if there is something like this in game already, please correct me in the comment). I often think that if i started to play WoW right now, I would not fit to the current playerbase, because I'm 20 years late to the party, have lack of the game knowledge, and I do not know if I would fit to the game by being a noob and noone would want to do new content with me. Could you please tell me as a potential new player, where could I start my journey to hop in World of Warcraft? And my next question is, how does the end content look like?
I believe when you first choose your character you can choose your expansion for your 1 to 60 levelling experience. I think they might have removed some of the really boring/tedious quests but essentially you keep all the core gameplay and cool quests whilst understanding the lore of that expansion. Then from level 60 you jump to the latest expansion. In theory you could create new characters and level them up in each of the old expansions that have been streamlined so that when you finish them your level 60.
Its honestly deeply upsetting to see a game that I started to play at 6 years old (im 25 now) completely change and become something unrecognizalbe. The only thing that I can say as a positive is that Im glad Azeroth is now a home for others. I moved out, but I'll never forget.
It's the opposite for me, the game I played 14 years ago became unreconizable and I left 6 years ago. Now, even if it's not close to the experiences I had during these days, the game reignited a lot of feels I had during Wotlk.
The best thing WoW did is give us a mute button for those that were 6 years old. 😅Even gave them their own channel that we could just turn off. 😂I didn’t allow my nephew to join my guild, and he was older than you. He was too immature, and acted out like I predicted, like guild hopping. Guilds stopped letting him in, and he came back to me. Nope! You are too young. There are plenty of appropriate games for your age. The newer WoW is very dumbed down. We had to have full time instance/dungeon management planners. It was very coordinated, and we had to practice. That is what kept players in your guild, because we were fulfilling their reasoning for joining us. We gave them access. 6 year olds don’t belong, and I can’t imagine you’re able to properly play WOW. But it gets boring, so come and play later about 5-6 years ago, and joined the darkside aka the Horde, because they had less silly 6 year olds ruining the game. You are just too young or not mature enough for this game. What were your parents thinking? They were thinking anything to keep you distracted and doing something else instead of annoying the F out of them everyday.
WoW just feels like a single player game that has speedrun dungeons. it really has lost its entire identity. its hardly worth calling it an mmo anymore
i used to love wow but the reason i stopped playing was simply displayed in an episode of South Park. I've spent hours on hours on hours leveling up and trying to get the best gear possible to finally actually establish myself in the game so i can actually finally play and enjoy the game and once i reach that point i say to myself "now what?" and realize it was all for nothing.
Nah this isn’t an issue with WoW - there’s endless things you can go on to do; challenges, mounts, transmog gear, fall in love with PvP, up your farming/profession game to make bank (some people play wow just for the economic side of it lol), list goes on. Plus you can start another class/race and fall in love all over. Hell, I can’t count how many times I’ve done that, and my 2nd or 3rd character became my new main because I fell in love with, for example, a warlock after only playing healer or something. WoW is dope.
Similiar to rust I used to think the same and in a sense , it is all pointless we should be achieving real life achievements and bettering ourselves but at the same time I look back and im glad i experienced it,met so much cool people , had fun and i guess i learned something at the end.
What's the community and pvp like? I haven't played WoW in forever, but never played GW2, just GW1. Recently stopped playing XIV and that was my goto for the past 14 years, now looking for something different.
I wanna like gw2 but there’s just something about wow that pulls me in ever so slowly after years of not being there. The only thing that irks me about wow is the pricing. At least 50 dollars for an expansion AND a subscription?! I already have a max lvl character in gw2 but idk why but something feels like it’s not letting me actually enjoy it and I always have wow in the back of my mind… Any gw2 advice is welcome
@@MechaGodAnri I stopped playing wow after legion and picked up gw2. The community is far better in every way compared to wow. Guilds are actually helpful and very active daily. You can join 6 guilds at once. I have a guild for pvp and wow, one for raiding, one for open world and friends and one I made. You won't regret it trust me.
@@MechaGodAnri GW2 is great for casual player. You can get on and off without losing anything. The only thing you have to understand is that there is no carrot to chase, 98% of the endgame gear for 1 character 1 spec you can get in under a week, hell in one day you can get 80% there. So most of the stuff is for doing em casually, setting challenges and goals for youself, the game won't do it for you. Personally I got bored after couple months because I finished all endgame content and there was no incentive for me to replay it, I don't care about cosmetics, nor replaying the same content on different class. The game has the best community out of all MMOs I've played, I didn't encounter a single toxic player that wouldn't help me getting better or more out of the game.
I've been playing WoW since 2005, and it's better than ever. I'm not stuck on nostalgia, I like my life and moving forward. New content is always fun and exciting, raiding is always good with friends and open world and solo content is better now than in the early expansions and it's not debatable, it's not even close.
Been playing since classic and… nope. Before I get called out saying get gud. I’ve ran all 20+ keys (or 10 in S4) and what are my thoughts? Nope. I slowly have been finding myself not enjoying priority rotations for combat. The 15 priority queue order is just not fun. I don’t want 3 buttons, but also pressing 15 is starting to just not be enjoyable. Them adding in hero talents adds more complexity towards an already overly complex system.
stupid old me got in debt and had very little funds while progressing through Legion, learning about goldmaking and being able to buy my gametime with that was a blessing. I'm definitely not saying it's all great but aside from making it easier for me to play it also added a whole new layer to WoW through learning the economy.
I've been playing pretty consistently since Wrath, and WW may be my favorite expansion. (I realize it's early and Blizz can still wreck it in the next year or so.) Solo-friendly, account-wide rep and currencies, a nice amount of weekly stuff to do on my main character without feeling overwhelmed or burned out. NO DAILIES. I'm so glad Blizzard got away from daily quests. Perhaps there's daily CDs on profession stuff still, I don't know because I'm ignoring those. When retail starts to feel repetitive, I can hop onto my Vanilla-Classic characters and experience Ye Olde Hardmode. Slow down and smell the peacebloom. Feel scared if I have to pull two mobs at once. That's still pretty fun too; it's clearly the same game, but the obligatory slower pace and clunkier systems makes it feel very different. I absolutely love Follower Dungeons (with bot NPCs as your group) and hope they are eventually added to every older expansion as well. I was in queue for a BfA dungeon recently for two solid hours, and it never popped. Obviously most people are playing War Within, I don't blame them for not leveling another alt through BfA to see the storylines again...but it would've been nice to complete all the dungeon quests as I reached them. I do still mail items between characters, because my Warbank is stuffed to the brim 😅 I understand the issues with the addition of the WoW Token (essentially buying gold with $$, or buying game-time with gold) but since its addition, I haven't paid for a single month of WoW with real money, and am grateful I can do that. I have more time than cash, and can now pay for my playtime with...time!
My original experience with wow (using every free trial i saved up for a good 3 months playtime) I made a dwarven hunter, and i enjoyed the unique starting areas and questlines, but as soon as it threw me to the big city, i started to lose track of the storyline but made a career has a hunter and leatherworker, ended up making a contact that paid me top gold for my resources and crafts
I watched at least four different videos before this one and you knocked it out of the park. You answered every question a returning/veteran player might have in fantastic detail. Wish there was something better than a like button; keep up the great work!
2:15 - wow, took me back. Thinking about when I last played/enjoyed the game in Cataclysm feels like a few years ago, holy shit there's been so many trash xpacs come and gone since then that nobody bats an eyelid at. I would LOVE to LOVE WoW again, and have tried to return so many times. I get to the loading screen and hear the music and realise, nah - not interested. So the message is I enjoy dropping a load of money for a game I have never actually played. Other games on the market (outside of the genre included) have just left this game dead in the dust. I could never understand why they charged a subscription fee for such a product, F2P indie games have ten times the content updates and service production of WoW which does blow my mind. Thankfully I am one of those that deleted and uninstalled many many many years ago, I struggle to fathom why people continue to play a game they don't enjoy - in some cases HATE. Still hope the game does well and people enjoy it, there's a lot of fond memories had (looking at you WOTLK)! Never to be lived again.
Personally for me you nailed it about the button bloat - just too much going on, feeling like i need 20 addons to play the game. I currently am playing the classic version & enjoying the grind, journey, simplicity of the game. I feel rewarded when i level and get new gear as i can feel the change as i progress. I am truly a classic andy LOL
I haven't played in almost 17 years and wanted to jump on. I'm 50/50 on the War Within. Way too much going on. Can't keep up with the story. Maybe it's because I'm older now. IDK. But I miss the OG game I stood in line for in 2004ish
@@AmberxCamp Hey! So i've played War Within since release.. and I have 2 level 80s and working on my 3rd alt.. i honestly do enjoy this style of gameplay as yes it is completely different than classic where mobs are a lot more difficult. There is more buttons/spells for retail. But I do recommend as they have added a ton of just new things to keep us WoW players busy, and to enjoy the process of whatever style of gameplay you want. Leveling, questing, RPG, Exploration, dungeons, pvp and much more. Hope you jump back on & enjoy the story and whatever features you like !
I'm really enjoying the classic. Maybe once I get my bearings back maybe I'll jump back and try War Within. Right now I'm just fan girling over all the old memories. It's been a great outlet from reality...and really good for days when I don't nail a PR in the gym!
But imagine being a mage and farming old raids on a weekly lock out and a demon hunter set drops and you don't even have a demon hunter. Appart from that i love your content man keep it up 😊😊
imo the only way to fix the problem for new players is to make two alternate epilogues at the beginning of new storylines that converge at a certain point and continue as one story, and you play one or the other depending on if you're new or returning, and then probably just always throw people into the new expansion unless they don't own it
All the hesitation to start wow again as a casual questing dungeon player is gone now. Being able to just focus on the new content/cosmetics makes new player experience a lot better!
Its too late they already design the game around endgame and nothing else which is why I found my home in LoTRO and feel in love with the landscape difficulty settings. Not to mention LoTRO is an amazing MMO in its own right.
I never knew you can get the sub with this token. Outside north america the game gets expensive because the dollar is very expensive so I never tried the game because on top of buying the game, I still would have to pay monthly, and it's not cheap. Ima look into it and try it out. Great video.
Man how I miss the days of Wrath of the Lich King....some of the best times, best folks and best content. The build up to ICC and the 1st lich kill....never can get that again. I played for from beta till Cataclysm then left till Pandaria then left....started Draneor for a week and left until BFA. Went all the way throught that then left yet again until dragonflight...made it till the 1st raid release and of course left. Just never could find that interest, that feel again but been dying to get back in so will of course get the new expansion and run for a bit. Hopefully this one will have that pull that wrath had....man those were the days
Left wow in shadowlands, played ffxiv for a few years, andI actually really like FFXIV from a gameplay perspective, but... good God's it's so far up it's ass about it's MSQ. It's unbearably boring, a it d will take a new player well over 100 hours to get halfway through. If that. At least with WoW i can CHOOSE to go back if i want to, if I'm personally interested. I played them as they released, so i dont need to, but new players, if curious, have a world of content to explore. Or, just play with their friends. I do think that FFXIV's raid fights are leagues ahead of wow, but wowdoes a lot that i like, too. I want a combination of the two. They are both good in their own ways, i just like how wow feels more my pace at the moment. I will say that wow still has a toxicity issue when it comes to dungeons. You can use npcs now for the basic dungeons which is nice and let's be explore the dungeons at my pace which is a fantastic edition. I really appreciate that
regarding timewalking.. think it will depend on the type of player you are.. if you mainly want end game or pvp, then yah, no timewalking.. however, if you want to experience all the lore, then probably will do the expansions.. and honestly they are fun to do at least once per faction. also, i really hope they add back in archaeology to the game to encourage folks to explore the lore of the past in a fresh way on retail.
I love WoW and I haven’t started this new expansion yet. I’ve been farming for gear and armor sets in MoP. So far I heard my class is doing good in this new expansion. I might push mythics with my guild but they play with members that have rep.
Great video! This expansion brought me back to WoW after having not played since shortly after Cataclysm launched. I am so out of touch with the story, but I have been absolutely loving my time in the Dragon Isles leveling up before starting TWW.
if you asked me in 2004 what i thought the game would be like in 20 years, compared to what it ended up being, i would have looked so foolish. I really thought this game would grow with me with all the billions it was making. But here we are.. why did i actually expect this game to actually evolve.
I never really raided or played arena. I just level my character, played battlegrounds and dungeons. I loved it. But that was back in TBC. Haven't really played much since. Having little time to play these days, the major things keeping me from playing again is keybinds and addons. I just can't be arsed spending hours on setting it all up. Or not to bother now just to relearn stuff later down the line. But I guess that's a me problem.
These things have all been streamlined and are doable without mods. I do the raiding thing at a high level with 4-5 hours of game time per week on average. The game has been heavily modernized
I mean games like gw2, eso, and to an extent ff14 already solved the issue of old content being unused and dead. How those games scale and implement content keeps a lot of evergreen content around. Why WoW has no good solution is strange.
i really hate the subscription price of wow, it is insane how developed countries at minimum wage earn enough money for subscribtion in 1-2 hours but many not so developed countries get similar prices with much lower minimum wage meaning it would take us 4-6 hours to earn enough for it the purchasing power is simply not the same
I think thats a fair concern, and we'll find out, but I know a lot of people who love to raid. Especially since they need to raid to unlock vault rewards for that track, and any other cosmetics or mounts tucked into that content. But if happens that more people are having more fun delving, is it bad they aren't forced to raid? I'd have to think about it
ArgentDawn known as ArgumentDawn or ArgentYawn are the realm in EU known for pushing out the most players with their toxicity. There are a few other realms in EU with notoriety but ArgentDawn is undeniably the worst.
15 years ago I played because it was fun. 10 years ago I played for nostalgia. 5 years ago I played for the time and money I had spent. 1 year ago I stopped playing. What made me turn off WoW is the fact that, right after launching an expansion, the old one becomes completely useless... with that the fun ends, the nostalgia doesn't come, the time doesn't last and the money isn't worth it.
As someone who has played every expansion from age 14 to 33, my answer right now is a strong No. Retail WoW is a stitched together Frankenstein fan project by people who inherited a game they did not create and did not respect the lore . It feels like hitting flashing buttons a casino slot machine that is devoid of mystery or rich world-building, and when I play the war within I feel like I am being tricked into a dopamine collection trap like Diablo Immortal. It’s time to let go
You messed up at 3:15 The cosmetic gear has always been more difficult to obtain AFTER those raids and dungeons were difficult to complete, as the drop rate goes from 1% to 0.1% in the following expansion.
I logged into my lvl 70 priest (still without expansion to check what changed and considering upgrading to TWW) and did an Ulduar run cuz I used to do it every week for mounts, but had hard time dealing with leviathan at lvl 70. Is there some scaling changes I’m not aware of?
So if you start a brand new character now, you basically have access to everything you've accomplished on all your other character? Ie, crafting levels, gathering etc?
Not the profession stuff. Nothing that will impact the player economy. However, the Warband bank does give access to mats gathered on one character to use in another characters crafting. They even have a filtering system with it to make it easier.
basically only generic stuff like achievements and a shared vault. Professions would be nice but WoW wants to keep you limited to 2 still i believe. you know....for nostalgia purposes, definitely not because their game can't handle it.
I love this world and combat, but it often feels like combat is the only thing in this world. A dye system, meaningful player housing and more involved professions would go a long way in fleshing out the experience.
u trying Janthir Wilds? Seen a few wow creators turnup in it all of a sudden. Im bias, 20ish hours into it, its miles beta than SoTo, more back to their routes, but doesnt beat the pre-EoD expansions. Sad War within is same week, I play both and this is gonna be knackering!
Yeah, this feels very much like a Swan song than a rebirth. They might eek out the full trilogy but honestly i'm hopng the trilogy is the end and they can either reboot a Warcraft MMO without spaghetti code and an upgraded engine or start a new one.
From reading through a lot of the comments. It doesn't actually seem like most of you don't like WoW. It more so seems like you don't like mmorpg's and you're just blaming it on WoW.
Last expansion i purchased was BFA and I didn't finish it as it was a slog fest. Dragon flight did not appeal as I could imagine getting stuck a lot and not knowing what to do from there. And you are right the whole chromie era must have had new players wondering what was this mess? So it is good to hear that they listened especially considering the bad press Blizzard has been getting in the last couple of years +. I think I will try this expansion as it is new and fresh and if I never saw any old content again I would be so happy. Plus the single player experience for end game content sounds appealing as I haven't enjoyed WOW groups since the mid 2000's. If they listen to their fans and give the people what they want at the very high standards they are capable of and lets face it in the world of MMORPG's I really don't think anyone actually makes you go WOW! As much as Blizzard does their art work is incredible as are the little touches that mean so much. They deserve to keep being successful year after year. Imagine playing the game for the first time and finding just how much optional content there is to do even when you finish the current expansion. It would knock your socks off.
Thinking about getting into WoW, mostly for the story content. However, I'm old and slow.. As a new player you don't start at the beginning of the story? Is that correct?
i wish they would turn the pandemonium experience into lvl 10 to 60 experience that way experience the zones in a classic+ feel and earn bronze to get more mounts and transmogs. to me pandemonium was fun in a myths of pandaria + sort of way
I tried wow and i just was very confused about the lore and all, the chromi thing is extraordinary confusionary, completistionist and calm is not rewarded, all is focoused only on the last exspansion, the rest of the world is in a timeless blackhole. Then i tried final fantasy 14. A lot better, more understable, more lore, just better in all.
And is pretty sad, because I would have liked enjoy it, but I felt it very unwelcoming to new player, all the game was telling me "why you are wasting time questing and doing classic profession?" Just go to chromie fast level, and start the exspansion. With final fantasy instead I can do all with calm and no pressure.
@@leeroyjenkins3209 personally I am liking it more than the wow one, i think are personal preference. But is even true that if in wow you play an healer you will have a terrible solo exsperience, while in ff14 you can main 2 class at same time (during the main story i am taking e classes at the same time)
@@LEssena00 Definitely personal preference. I prefer WoW's combat but I've also played XIV since 2010 (recently quit) and had grudges with its combat system. I mained DRK and SGE though, and all the tanks/healers are basically just copy/paste with little differences. DPS is a bit more varied between each other, but still could use work...
Depends what gamer you are. I honestly think the competition is super lackluster. I like OSRS, and WoW... and that's pretty much it. I cannot for the life of me get into ESO or GW2 despite being big games within this genre... And pretty much every other game is either heavily p2w or dead. Doesn't help that GW2 and ESO don't have servers for my region. I'll pick away at this genre a bit more, but honestly it's tired, and WoW still to this day offers the best experience.
@@readifdumb heard of xiv? like completely fine if it's not a game you like but it's literally the best selling MMO, has been for years, to not even mention it in your "competitors"...?
@@-rakoo-amv454 Yes, I played FFXIV for awhile actually, several 100 hours. I got to Shadowbringers and just couldn't bring myself to play any longer. All the side content just got watered down into boring daily and weekly challenge log grinds. The story, while good, is heavily padded out and a slog to get through. If someone told me it would take me 1k hours before I reached the new expansion end game content, I probably would of never played to begin with. The game is strong in certain areas, but all the loading screens and quest design, pvp, it's all really bland. It's strongest elements are story, dungeons, raids, which boils down to either doing MSQ which is actively not playing with people, and sitting in Limsa or another major city spamming duty finder. It has pretty much the same problems people don't like about modern WoW, but it has less stuff to do or get excited about, being practically the same game every expansion. It's a good game, but it's mainly because the MMORPG genre is so weak that it stands out. I seriously think that FFXIV, OSRS, and WoW, are basically the only proper competition, while everything else just feels super lacking. I've played probably over 50 MMOs, some longer than others, and I can't say I'm impressed. It was a life long dream of mine to escape to another reality like Sword Art Online, or to chase after my RuneScape nostalgia, but man this genre is tired. Looking at War Within, idk what I expected, but it doesn't excite me at all. These games are huge time wasters ultimately, and I can find my time better spent somewhere else. Who knows, maybe I'll come back to WoW again and eat my words, but I seriously am so burnt out trying to care about MMOs just to constantly feel underwhelmed.
I don't think I have been this happy with wow since....wraith. Solo content...finally haha...been waiting years and honestly I had given up hope it would ever happen. I have played wow since day 1 and I own everything to do with wow including the books. That being said I have never done a mythic dungeon, simply because I could never find anyone to teach me wtf they were. Even the people I did find, were way to high up to do a lvl 1 with me. So I just said f it and did everything else from pvp to raids. Now I can finally do what I want without the need to find a group. Now if only there was a hardcore option for a new character haha...doubt it. Anyways I am very happy with the new changes, its refreshing. Also guild wars seems a little dumb to me. Just the concept I don't like. The option to be anything defeats the purpose of your character. No tanks, no support etc. Where is your role? Thats why I never messed with it, even though its free to play. I have played all the other mmorpgs though. Just not guild wars.
recently started playing Guild Wars 2, and I have to say, it seems like GW2 is much better with the expansions compared to WoW. I'm definitely in the mood to play through all the expansions in a row because it's so much fun, and the world never feels empty. There's always something happening somewhere, and I find it really good and relaxing. When I tried WoW, I only got to almost level 20, but I felt so alone. The world was really nice, but I felt isolated. Not the experience I was hoping for an online rpg. What do you think?
GW2 is a different beast. WoW focuses on high end group content and your goal is to earn gear to clear content, to have better gear to clear more content, the questlines and world can be very secondary depending on the extension. GW2 focuses on the main quest and large explorable areas, the goal is to earn all the smaller goals the world has to offer, the high end content is often an after thought. Benefits of WoW : Every players focus on one expac so new players and vets experience the same fresh things. Downsides of WoW : The rest of the 20 years worth of content is close to dead. Once you burn through the content, you will restart everything next year. Benefits of GW2 : The population is easy to encounter on every maps, new players have 12 years worth of alive content. Lots of long term goals. Downsides of GW2 : Content can get stale pretty quicly for vets. Interactions between players is limited.
@@LuckyGhostMorgan Day confirmed it's true in an interview. Was not an inteded decision, it just required more work due to the backend code?tech? Somethin like that
Is the action combat mode in the settings only for the newest expansion? I'm currently playing in the dragon flight, I don't recall seeing that setting anywhere.
If it's all chromie from 10-60, then we could just as easily have lvled 10-60 in DF, and leave the old content more optional. Much of it feels dated to the newest expacs.
I've been playing wow almost a month now and I truly like it! But so far the only thing that annoys me is how the transmog system works, I mean that everytime I change gear I gotta transmog it again! I've played ESO over 3500 hours and I absolutely LOVE that I can style my character to look just the way I want ONCE! So even if I change gear it'll stay! Sure it's just a minor thing to many but that truly grinds my gears. 😂
its so funny you mention this. I had this in the video and took it out because it was getting long. But I really wish transmog bound to the slot, and not the item. Its so unecessary to have to re-mog every time i get a minor upgrade. completely agree with you
Grump old players like myself don’t realize that they’re missing a period of time and it has very little to do with the game. The game is objectively way better in every way now than it was in 2005 but your life is probably not as flexible
I personally can't justify spending $20 CAD per month and then another $100 or so on the expansions. I think if they went completely free to play and just charged for the expansions, or had the sub fee but made the expansions free, I could see that being worth it. As a mostly casual player, that's just a ridiculous amount of money every year for something I'm only playing a few hours every week.
yeah it definitely depends on your financial situation, and the way you consume games. If its saving you from needing to spend 60-70 dollars multiple times on other releases throughout the year, you quickly come out ahead. MMOs are cheap compared to keeping up with all the new AAA games as they come out
@@LuckyGhost It's sad that people say the alternative is spending 60-70 multiple times on a single game. There are less and less games that you pay for, and get your full game out of.
TL;DR: Yes it's worth it if the game looks interesting try it out it's only 15$ until you get to the expansion part then you have to pay for it but by then you will have probably made up your mind if you like it or not. Good for casual and hardcore players if you're casual you can still clear quite a bit of content source my mom who only plays a couple hours a day has cleared quite a bit of content. If you're scared of toxic players don't be first of all it's a random asshole who will never know you in real life fuck them and second of all it's a game nothing you do matters or will benefit your life in any way getting emotionally attached to a game can be incredibly unhealthy so just try not to. Personally I think World of Warcraft is absolutely worth it there are a few things to keep in mind though. It is not a story driven game meaning it focuses on getting you to running end game content ASAP and there's no level scaling so some zones may be dead or with few players in them while levelling. Not to say there aren't any you can still run dungeons and shit just not as many. Also because it's not story driven the story is generally kinda dog shit especially now according to a lot of people personally I don't pay attention to it I like story games but World of Warcraft is my turn my brain off and kill some big bad guys game not one I'm super lore invested in. It does have lots of lore if you're into that but it's not a main focus. End game content it is a loot treadmill you will constantly get upgrades each season they are decently long so you got time. Now let's talk casual player friendliness I am a 18yr old male with no job who does online schooling so naturally I have absolutely no life and no irl friends so I'm not necessarily casual but I do play lots of games so I kinda am wow is def one of my main focus games but it's not all I play all day. My mom who does have a job and works her ass off does play this game too very casually despite that she's done raids, dungeons, mount collection, mythic+, and PvP she just does whatever she finds fun and will only play for a few hours at most a day. So I would say for both casual and hardcore audiences it's a good game. It can be toxic but fuck them they're pry some fat ass 40 year old man in their parents basement don't let toxic players discourage you from tanking or even engaging in things you enjoy such as raids. I used to let that stop me and I hated it but I got over it so can you.
I started playing a week ago, the game almost lost me when i created a base character, and after the tutorial it just throws you in a very confusing story, tried battle for azeroth and it got boring really fast. Tried creating a Dracthyr, and it got its own storyline, apart from the mess of the main events, and it was a lot more compelling to just play as a class and race I could easily jump into, and just dive into Dragonflight.
@@gabrielandrade2566 retail isnt time consuming . Unless you want to bet top 1% in pvp or pve. Otherwise after finishing campaign and gear a bit in pvp and pvp, you can play easily only 5-6 hours a week and be done with it. They rly improved on this aspect. I agree, the start may take more hours, first week, but thats in any mmo, even GW2 Anyway , wish you all the best🤗🤗
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Honestly gw2 is amazing... left wow after legion to play gw2 and never looked back.😊
@@jasonb2916 gw2 feels like a game in a good way instead of a choir :)
hey lucky. i'd like to touch on the transmog system in wow. if they implement a mog system like eso, where players can mog the slot the gear goes in, not the gear itself. this would reduce the amount of trips to the mog vendor because your gear will stay mogged no matter what piece is in the slot! let's get it noticed!
I dislike subs. Graphics are always the same with its usual monotonic atmospheric color selection for the area/region. WoW never wanted to adopt the play-for-free system like Gw2 and I do not classify playing for free to lvl 20 being anything close to 'PFF.' I started playing this game roughly 8 months before BC was coming out. I love the old content. But after cat and the lunatic dev burning everything down and vilifying Sylvanas, the game was really harmed and many left over it. Many of us have strong memories to its early days and many left for good wile others come to try new expansion only to leave it once again. There are many great things about WoW hands down.. GW2 and WoW both have incorporated many similar new game play like the new flying system, bears as characters, etc. I finished at Dragonflight and have not purchased the new expansions since I decided to play GW2. Less toxic. There are pros and cons to any game and WoW will always be special to me. But with friends all gone long ago, and the meeting o0f my76 f9iance at the time for 8 years from the game and now gone as well, it is just too lonely and feels like drudgery to play.
GW2 sponsoring a WoW vid is ballsy lol.
It is, and I respect it.
It's an objectively better game. And the gryphon flying is way better feeling than the dragon riding lol
@@Armadan7 if its objectively better (lol, lmao) then why is it objectively less succesful in any way shape and form 😂😂also not even the most avid gw2 fan thinks the gryphon is better, its the opposite
@@johnaldjensen4617 GW2 and WoW have different scope because they intend to occupy different niche markets. And yes, the griffon is WAY better than dragon riding, while it's more limited, it's not janky, it actually fits in the level design, the mount system in general makes it a better experience and still requires a bit of a journey to unlock (I see this as a nice thing).
@@johnaldjensen4617 if anyone likes wow more than gw2 or vice versa so be it but comparing wow mounts to gw2 lol dont even try :D gryphon is hard to control sure but still by far the most fun to ride in any game
"...they might go back and clear some of the old content for cosmetics and mounts." I tried WoW Classic Season of Discovery a few months ago hoping to reignite that flame of adventure and discovery that I had when I was in middle school during WotLK. All I was met with was this type of mindset, doing stuff just to have stuff, people bitterly doing the same stuff over and over to get the stuff needed for the next stuff. I wish people would go back and 'clear old content' because the stories and places were magical and whisked you away from life's troubles. Not for cosmetics and mounts.
I was actually trying to research how a new player (myself) would start to go through the game. It seems like it's "lvl to max and funnel into the newest expac." Not really exploring and having fun progressing through zones and old content. (I'm a FF14 player and dabble in GW2 where old content is ALWAYS relevant.)
@@SpartanTAP A brand-new player would get funneled into the latest expansion, yes. As a veteran, I enjoy taking breaks from The Current Expansion by making a new character and doing a deep-dive into an old expansion to revisit all the stories and lore. That new character might get deleted once its immersive journey is complete (at level 50 they're saved permanently if you want to un-delete them later) but it's a fun way to explore a different continent without being overpowered. I also avoid the "heirloom gear" that levels up with you and is fairly powerful; mindlessly three-shotting mobs isn't my idea of fun 😅
I believe some MMOs, like GW2, were designed to allow all expansions to stay relevant as new ones were added. WoW wasn't built that way, and I don't foresee Blizzard going backward and trying to add the systems necessary to do that retroactively.
I'm a WoW veteran, and I loved your polite chide of grumpy veteran players.
There were grumpy "veteran" players when WotLK dropped. It's an issue you wouldn't normally run into because these people don't have lives outside the game except on Reddit.
@@MiaogisTeas The grumpy veteran player shouldn't just be dismissed. There are probably legitimate reasons. Being passive aggressive is 12 year old maturity at best. Trolls are not grumpy veterans, just as much as presupposition is not fact. Give people a chance. The video here itself is just word salad anyways. If you don't want to read why, then don't be judgemental and dismissive. The reason why you don't normally "run into" it is because people have lives, and go do something else and not whine like woke children who make up reasons why people are not having a great time.
Here's a con: Coming from WoW classic, Retail lacks the feeling of a greater community that realms used to give. For example, coming across the same person multiple times in the game world even though we're doing different things.
Yeah and damn i miss the days of the groups that ran "For Azaroth" or "for the Horde" invading the cities for the bear mount....for to much fun trying to get a counter group up and figure out when to pounce and what to do when we get our ass kicked. Good times long gone
It's not just that. I really want to get in to retail but I finally got to my first dungeon and it was over in 15 minutes...Nobody spoke to eachother, if was just a mindless speed run.
I was so let down by that. I remember doing a dungeon used to be an experience where people would chat to eachother about how to do things, now a dungeon is finished in the blink of an eye.
@@uh-ohspaghettio7826 But raids and such still give that experience no?
@@questionsayer Wouldn't know, haven't done one yet
Yes because classic wow is the only true MMORPG that encourages grouping and joining a guild to do raids. Every other MMO has a queue button to just send you to a dungeon instantaneously but in classic wow you have to walk or mount up to the dungeon, or be summoned.
Long time FFXIV player starting in WoW last Friday. Im having a blast honestly. Last time i sat down to play WoW was in 2009. BFA is a slog but after that its pretty good. Currently transmog hunting.
Edit. They updated Dragonflight as the leveling expansion for new players. Much much better than BFA.
Also one you hit Lvl 50 and are exaulted with you corresponding faction Alliance or Horde you get Heritage armor for the race you are currently playing as as transmog account wide. The orc set is amazing.
The negativity is hard to escape in the comments sections, but I've really enjoyed this expansion so far. I like the tone and the world building for this. I know it's early days to say anything definitely about whether it is good or not, but at least it's a bit more time actually playing it than people who haven't tried it at all discouraging others from playing.
@@nzwj I agree. It's hard to escape negativity. People hate on anything nowadays. Especially the people who puff on the Blizzard hate gas 24/7. Yeah we get it they aren't how they were in the early 2000's. Move on.
would you say it's worth to get back into. been debating as well for some time to get back into WoW after playing FF14 for so long. my only prob is i'm worried about the story content since that's one thing i enjoy most for games. other is that idk what i would want to come back and play as. one nice thing about FF14 was that you could have all the jobs/classes on one character.
I'm a current ff14 player and I've really been thinking of trying out WoW. I haven't played it in many years. Good to see a fellow ff14 player trying it out.
@@Cordaran As an altoholic, I HATED that about FF14, haha. I enjoy having alts of varying races and capabilities; WoW's new Warband feature also took away my persistent "Should I play as Horde, or Alliance?" conundrum...now all my characters are on one list, regardless of server, so I play them equally. Manually swapping realms (which took maybe 7 seconds) was too hard 😂
As somebody who’s always wanted to play WoW but never wanted to go back and play the old expansions, this made me buy and try it. So far level 72 frost mage and having a good time. Playing only new content with others also makes me feel good. I can finally say I enjoy WoW.
As someone who hasn’t played since Burning Crusade, I’m blown away by how much better WoW feels now, and I’m having a blast so far
Wow, I also haven’t played since TBC, but thinking now might actually be the time to pull the trigger again😃
If you are already blown away then you'd probably jump out of the window if you kept playing all the shit expansions that came after TBC/WOTLK and witnessed the entire shit show called Blizzard and it's psycho devs/staff just to end up being some psycho illuminati reptillian riding a dragon. There are literally not enough cow teets on this entire planet to compare to how much Blizzard has been milking this game throughout the years.
I just got back on, I agree it feels good. Just a little sad that the new players won't get the same old WoW we grew up with.
Same here, last I played was Cata. Yesterday I downloaded it and it feels great to be back
I feel WoW has become so much about transmog, decking out your character and them focusing on that. Same as alot of games nowadays with skins. What happened to simple gaming lol
Agreed transmog is so lame
@@justinnieves2520 How is it lame? Would you rather your character look awful and ridiculous?
@@justinnieves2520 ???
@@Wft-bu5zc it was pretty fun back in the day recognizing how powerful a character was just by how their gear looked. weak characters looked weak, because their armor was weak. it's just different now when characters with absolutely terrible stats can look just as strong as a max geared character. personally, I prefer the former. looking bad was part of the reason I wanted to gear up
Transmog was a mistake, they should bring back systems that actually matter, like reforging. Instead of cosmetic junk, a big part of looking cool should be because you EARNED the cool gear. If you want to look like a badass, do badass things, not farm old content that be done by a cat walking over the key board.
I have a Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne in my heart....whatever they do they will never be able to make me stop loving this world... it's my home... even if I haven't been there for decades
best rts ever made
They don't add dyes because that's basically their cosmetic progression system... mythic raid items are just recolor of the same lfr items.
I think your comment of 'i miss the journey' is what will stop me from returning. I used to love wandering and exploring, finding the scenes and stories hidden away off the beaten track and the excitement of moving on to a new zone.
Now it just seems like a race to instanced content.
"Is WoW worth.... "PLAY GUILD WARS 2 NOW"... Playing in 2024?"
The Class set restriction for collexting transmogs will be removed when TWW launches by the way.
I thought they said it would be in 11.1? (First TWW patch)
No, the class set restriction is not removed as of 11.0. it may be removed for the first patch but it is not removed yet because I was running night hold last night. Got the death knight class set drops on my warrior and got the warrior class set drops on my death knght. Always always always. The armor type is no longer restricted but the class sets still are.
I wish that there was possibility to start journey (even solo) to play expansions as they were released, one by one, so new players could catch with the entire lore, and also allow players to experience all the content that the expansions had to offer, including raids.
As person who never played World of Warcraft, I can imagine that old content raids/dungeons can be unavailable or not playable due to lack of people doing it, because it is old content. The lowered versions of the raid could be perfect for new players wanting to just test raids, so they can even complete it solo (with NPC as companions). There could be no loot at all, just to check what were mechanics of the bosses and what was in the raids. (if there is something like this in game already, please correct me in the comment).
I often think that if i started to play WoW right now, I would not fit to the current playerbase, because I'm 20 years late to the party, have lack of the game knowledge, and I do not know if I would fit to the game by being a noob and noone would want to do new content with me.
Could you please tell me as a potential new player, where could I start my journey to hop in World of Warcraft? And my next question is, how does the end content look like?
I believe when you first choose your character you can choose your expansion for your 1 to 60 levelling experience. I think they might have removed some of the really boring/tedious quests but essentially you keep all the core gameplay and cool quests whilst understanding the lore of that expansion. Then from level 60 you jump to the latest expansion. In theory you could create new characters and level them up in each of the old expansions that have been streamlined so that when you finish them your level 60.
Its honestly deeply upsetting to see a game that I started to play at 6 years old (im 25 now) completely change and become something unrecognizalbe. The only thing that I can say as a positive is that Im glad Azeroth is now a home for others. I moved out, but I'll never forget.
the nostalgia things are different man is sad.
Thats why many of us are playing classic and sod.
There should be a real classic plus soon too, so plenty to do.
It's the opposite for me, the game I played 14 years ago became unreconizable and I left 6 years ago. Now, even if it's not close to the experiences I had during these days, the game reignited a lot of feels I had during Wotlk.
The best thing WoW did is give us a mute button for those that were 6 years old. 😅Even gave them their own channel that we could just turn off. 😂I didn’t allow my nephew to join my guild, and he was older than you. He was too immature, and acted out like I predicted, like guild hopping. Guilds stopped letting him in, and he came back to me. Nope! You are too young. There are plenty of appropriate games for your age. The newer WoW is very dumbed down. We had to have full time instance/dungeon management planners. It was very coordinated, and we had to practice. That is what kept players in your guild, because we were fulfilling their reasoning for joining us. We gave them access. 6 year olds don’t belong, and I can’t imagine you’re able to properly play WOW.
But it gets boring, so come and play later about 5-6 years ago, and joined the darkside aka the Horde, because they had less silly 6 year olds ruining the game. You are just too young or not mature enough for this game. What were your parents thinking? They were thinking anything to keep you distracted and doing something else instead of annoying the F out of them everyday.
@@aquariuscomfort Agreed sod playing with kids. Even kids in there 20s in questionable. They are just as bad as the younglins =]
I have been playing since 2004 but I always take a couple of months break every few years to keep the game feel fresh
Lucky Ghost, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!
You deserve more views. This was really concise & well thought out. Thanks.
WoW just feels like a single player game that has speedrun dungeons. it really has lost its entire identity. its hardly worth calling it an mmo anymore
i used to love wow but the reason i stopped playing was simply displayed in an episode of South Park. I've spent hours on hours on hours leveling up and trying to get the best gear possible to finally actually establish myself in the game so i can actually finally play and enjoy the game and once i reach that point i say to myself "now what?" and realize it was all for nothing.
Well i mean yeah... But every single game in the world have that "now what?" feeling in the end. I mean for me it's like every time i play a game XD.
@@Cotton603 it wasn't for nothing, it was for entertainment. It's a game after all.
Nah this isn’t an issue with WoW - there’s endless things you can go on to do; challenges, mounts, transmog gear, fall in love with PvP, up your farming/profession game to make bank (some people play wow just for the economic side of it lol), list goes on.
Plus you can start another class/race and fall in love all over. Hell, I can’t count how many times I’ve done that, and my 2nd or 3rd character became my new main because I fell in love with, for example, a warlock after only playing healer or something.
WoW is dope.
Similiar to rust I used to think the same and in a sense , it is all pointless we should be achieving real life achievements and bettering ourselves but at the same time I look back and im glad i experienced it,met so much cool people , had fun and i guess i learned something at the end.
If the leveling itself wasn't enjoyable to you then MMOs might not be your genre
I like GW2 better, no subscription fee and everything old (gear etc) has just as high value now as it had from the beginning.
What's the community and pvp like? I haven't played WoW in forever, but never played GW2, just GW1. Recently stopped playing XIV and that was my goto for the past 14 years, now looking for something different.
Thoughts on gw2 new expansion?
I wanna like gw2 but there’s just something about wow that pulls me in ever so slowly after years of not being there.
The only thing that irks me about wow is the pricing. At least 50 dollars for an expansion AND a subscription?!
I already have a max lvl character in gw2 but idk why but something feels like it’s not letting me actually enjoy it and I always have wow in the back of my mind…
Any gw2 advice is welcome
@@MechaGodAnri I stopped playing wow after legion and picked up gw2. The community is far better in every way compared to wow. Guilds are actually helpful and very active daily. You can join 6 guilds at once. I have a guild for pvp and wow, one for raiding, one for open world and friends and one I made. You won't regret it trust me.
@@MechaGodAnri GW2 is great for casual player. You can get on and off without losing anything. The only thing you have to understand is that there is no carrot to chase, 98% of the endgame gear for 1 character 1 spec you can get in under a week, hell in one day you can get 80% there. So most of the stuff is for doing em casually, setting challenges and goals for youself, the game won't do it for you. Personally I got bored after couple months because I finished all endgame content and there was no incentive for me to replay it, I don't care about cosmetics, nor replaying the same content on different class.
The game has the best community out of all MMOs I've played, I didn't encounter a single toxic player that wouldn't help me getting better or more out of the game.
I feel like I missed on so much to return back now
same
You can still play the old starting zones....just saying. You don't just have to do exile's reach.
Long answer, Yes it's worth playing (according to the actual video, not the random comment)
eh, i dont know if its worth playing as a vet, but its certainly more accessible for new players.
I've been playing WoW since 2005, and it's better than ever. I'm not stuck on nostalgia, I like my life and moving forward. New content is always fun and exciting, raiding is always good with friends and open world and solo content is better now than in the early expansions and it's not debatable, it's not even close.
I totally agree ! Been playing off & on since 2007 myself
Been playing since classic and… nope. Before I get called out saying get gud. I’ve ran all 20+ keys (or 10 in S4) and what are my thoughts?
Nope. I slowly have been finding myself not enjoying priority rotations for combat. The 15 priority queue order is just not fun.
I don’t want 3 buttons, but also pressing 15 is starting to just not be enjoyable. Them adding in hero talents adds more complexity towards an already overly complex system.
Also story sucks since legion and I haven’t cared about it since DEI activists have thrown their garbage here.
Honestly if older expansions had mythic plus I would play them too. Played cata for a month but having to raid for better gear just sucks
@@Mduffy-yo6rb ah there it is, his real reason for ranting, "DEI", hes one of those people. lol
A GW2 ad during a video about WoW is some seriously hilarious shit lmao.
Long term OSRS, casual GW2, FF14 and ESO player. I picked it up during the end of dragonflight and I've been having a blast ever since.
Osrs here, do you play both or just wow now
@@Cosmosis462 I don't have time for both, so I'm playing wow at the moment. But one does not simple give up OSRS, I'll be back for sailing
@@Cosmosis462 Just wow, I'll go back to OSRS once sailing happens
stupid old me got in debt and had very little funds while progressing through Legion, learning about goldmaking and being able to buy my gametime with that was a blessing. I'm definitely not saying it's all great but aside from making it easier for me to play it also added a whole new layer to WoW through learning the economy.
I've been playing pretty consistently since Wrath, and WW may be my favorite expansion. (I realize it's early and Blizz can still wreck it in the next year or so.) Solo-friendly, account-wide rep and currencies, a nice amount of weekly stuff to do on my main character without feeling overwhelmed or burned out. NO DAILIES. I'm so glad Blizzard got away from daily quests. Perhaps there's daily CDs on profession stuff still, I don't know because I'm ignoring those.
When retail starts to feel repetitive, I can hop onto my Vanilla-Classic characters and experience Ye Olde Hardmode. Slow down and smell the peacebloom. Feel scared if I have to pull two mobs at once. That's still pretty fun too; it's clearly the same game, but the obligatory slower pace and clunkier systems makes it feel very different.
I absolutely love Follower Dungeons (with bot NPCs as your group) and hope they are eventually added to every older expansion as well. I was in queue for a BfA dungeon recently for two solid hours, and it never popped. Obviously most people are playing War Within, I don't blame them for not leveling another alt through BfA to see the storylines again...but it would've been nice to complete all the dungeon quests as I reached them.
I do still mail items between characters, because my Warbank is stuffed to the brim 😅 I understand the issues with the addition of the WoW Token (essentially buying gold with $$, or buying game-time with gold) but since its addition, I haven't paid for a single month of WoW with real money, and am grateful I can do that. I have more time than cash, and can now pay for my playtime with...time!
My original experience with wow (using every free trial i saved up for a good 3 months playtime) I made a dwarven hunter, and i enjoyed the unique starting areas and questlines, but as soon as it threw me to the big city, i started to lose track of the storyline but made a career has a hunter and leatherworker, ended up making a contact that paid me top gold for my resources and crafts
Now that I'm not a broke teenage I'm coming back to try it out, last time I played had the giant doom dragon
I watched at least four different videos before this one and you knocked it out of the park. You answered every question a returning/veteran player might have in fantastic detail. Wish there was something better than a like button; keep up the great work!
Wow, thanks! glad you enjoyed it :D
2:15 - wow, took me back. Thinking about when I last played/enjoyed the game in Cataclysm feels like a few years ago, holy shit there's been so many trash xpacs come and gone since then that nobody bats an eyelid at. I would LOVE to LOVE WoW again, and have tried to return so many times. I get to the loading screen and hear the music and realise, nah - not interested. So the message is I enjoy dropping a load of money for a game I have never actually played. Other games on the market (outside of the genre included) have just left this game dead in the dust. I could never understand why they charged a subscription fee for such a product, F2P indie games have ten times the content updates and service production of WoW which does blow my mind. Thankfully I am one of those that deleted and uninstalled many many many years ago, I struggle to fathom why people continue to play a game they don't enjoy - in some cases HATE. Still hope the game does well and people enjoy it, there's a lot of fond memories had (looking at you WOTLK)! Never to be lived again.
Played non-stop from beta up until about 6 years ago, end game raiding the whole time. Watching this video makes it tempting to come back.
Personally for me you nailed it about the button bloat - just too much going on, feeling like i need 20 addons to play the game. I currently am playing the classic version & enjoying the grind, journey, simplicity of the game. I feel rewarded when i level and get new gear as i can feel the change as i progress. I am truly a classic andy LOL
I haven't played in almost 17 years and wanted to jump on. I'm 50/50 on the War Within. Way too much going on. Can't keep up with the story. Maybe it's because I'm older now. IDK. But I miss the OG game I stood in line for in 2004ish
@@AmberxCamp Hey! So i've played War Within since release.. and I have 2 level 80s and working on my 3rd alt.. i honestly do enjoy this style of gameplay as yes it is completely different than classic where mobs are a lot more difficult. There is more buttons/spells for retail. But I do recommend as they have added a ton of just new things to keep us WoW players busy, and to enjoy the process of whatever style of gameplay you want. Leveling, questing, RPG, Exploration, dungeons, pvp and much more. Hope you jump back on & enjoy the story and whatever features you like !
I'm really enjoying the classic. Maybe once I get my bearings back maybe I'll jump back and try War Within. Right now I'm just fan girling over all the old memories. It's been a great outlet from reality...and really good for days when I don't nail a PR in the gym!
Wow video sponsored by Guild wars 2 is hilarious!😂
I think I just don't have enough time to bother with it anymore and have fallen into just playing single player games.
But imagine being a mage and farming old raids on a weekly lock out and a demon hunter set drops and you don't even have a demon hunter. Appart from that i love your content man keep it up 😊😊
You can get the appereance regardless of the class it drops on now
imo the only way to fix the problem for new players is to make two alternate epilogues at the beginning of new storylines that converge at a certain point and continue as one story, and you play one or the other depending on if you're new or returning, and then probably just always throw people into the new expansion unless they don't own it
All the hesitation to start wow again as a casual questing dungeon player is gone now. Being able to just focus on the new content/cosmetics makes new player experience a lot better!
Warcraft is a jumbled mess. It's over, let it die. Needs a sequel game without a tangled storyline and horrible pacing.
Exacly.
I came here after an alliance mate from Star Trek Fleet Command recommended WOW to me. Not so sure I want to start playing it now.
Its too late they already design the game around endgame and nothing else which is why I found my home in LoTRO and feel in love with the landscape difficulty settings. Not to mention LoTRO is an amazing MMO in its own right.
@@Vandakaiunfortunately that games dying.
@@thehawk5141 ah its better than trek yu will be fine
That background music in the beginning brought a tear to my eye as someone who played vanilla 😢
I never knew you can get the sub with this token. Outside north america the game gets expensive because the dollar is very expensive so I never tried the game because on top of buying the game, I still would have to pay monthly, and it's not cheap. Ima look into it and try it out. Great video.
Man how I miss the days of Wrath of the Lich King....some of the best times, best folks and best content. The build up to ICC and the 1st lich kill....never can get that again. I played for from beta till Cataclysm then left till Pandaria then left....started Draneor for a week and left until BFA. Went all the way throught that then left yet again until dragonflight...made it till the 1st raid release and of course left. Just never could find that interest, that feel again but been dying to get back in so will of course get the new expansion and run for a bit. Hopefully this one will have that pull that wrath had....man those were the days
In 11.0.5 Oct 22nd any class will be able to get all class sets. Blizzard is listening.
Left wow in shadowlands, played ffxiv for a few years, andI actually really like FFXIV from a gameplay perspective, but... good God's it's so far up it's ass about it's MSQ. It's unbearably boring, a it d will take a new player well over 100 hours to get halfway through. If that. At least with WoW i can CHOOSE to go back if i want to, if I'm personally interested. I played them as they released, so i dont need to, but new players, if curious, have a world of content to explore. Or, just play with their friends.
I do think that FFXIV's raid fights are leagues ahead of wow, but wowdoes a lot that i like, too. I want a combination of the two. They are both good in their own ways, i just like how wow feels more my pace at the moment.
I will say that wow still has a toxicity issue when it comes to dungeons. You can use npcs now for the basic dungeons which is nice and let's be explore the dungeons at my pace which is a fantastic edition. I really appreciate that
regarding timewalking.. think it will depend on the type of player you are.. if you mainly want end game or pvp, then yah, no timewalking.. however, if you want to experience all the lore, then probably will do the expansions.. and honestly they are fun to do at least once per faction.
also, i really hope they add back in archaeology to the game to encourage folks to explore the lore of the past in a fresh way on retail.
I love WoW and I haven’t started this new expansion yet. I’ve been farming for gear and armor sets in MoP. So far I heard my class is doing good in this new expansion. I might push mythics with my guild but they play with members that have rep.
depends where you live. Some countries can't pay a sub specially if there are no regional prices.
Can’t just get bnet gift cards?
@@jeremyarnold677 I have not seen any gift cards around this area or in other city tbg, I'm pretty sure they don't sell those over here
Great video! This expansion brought me back to WoW after having not played since shortly after Cataclysm launched. I am so out of touch with the story, but I have been absolutely loving my time in the Dragon Isles leveling up before starting TWW.
if you asked me in 2004 what i thought the game would be like in 20 years, compared to what it ended up being, i would have looked so foolish. I really thought this game would grow with me with all the billions it was making. But here we are.. why did i actually expect this game to actually evolve.
I never really raided or played arena. I just level my character, played battlegrounds and dungeons. I loved it. But that was back in TBC. Haven't really played much since.
Having little time to play these days, the major things keeping me from playing again is keybinds and addons. I just can't be arsed spending hours on setting it all up. Or not to bother now just to relearn stuff later down the line.
But I guess that's a me problem.
These things have all been streamlined and are doable without mods. I do the raiding thing at a high level with 4-5 hours of game time per week on average. The game has been heavily modernized
At 15:43 , what's the mmorpg you talk about?
Its cool that even if you start on the second or third expansions of the, you can learn the dragon flying and focus on the new content.
I don’t see how people can play this it’s just idk
I mean games like gw2, eso, and to an extent ff14 already solved the issue of old content being unused and dead. How those games scale and implement content keeps a lot of evergreen content around. Why WoW has no good solution is strange.
Level scaling and horizontal progression comes with its own set of issues. There isn't a perfect solution, so it's definitely pick your poison atm
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i really hate the subscription price of wow, it is insane how developed countries at minimum wage earn enough money for subscribtion in 1-2 hours but many not so developed countries get similar prices with much lower minimum wage meaning it would take us 4-6 hours to earn enough for it
the purchasing power is simply not the same
Does this 10-60 leveling in Dragonflight work now? Or do I have to wait until The War Within launches?
it works right now!
I mean delves sound cool but goodbye raiding! How many people are going to be raiding when you can get heroic raid gear by yourself?
I think thats a fair concern, and we'll find out, but I know a lot of people who love to raid. Especially since they need to raid to unlock vault rewards for that track, and any other cosmetics or mounts tucked into that content. But if happens that more people are having more fun delving, is it bad they aren't forced to raid? I'd have to think about it
ArgentDawn known as ArgumentDawn or ArgentYawn are the realm in EU known for pushing out the most players with their toxicity. There are a few other realms in EU with notoriety but ArgentDawn is undeniably the worst.
15 years ago I played because it was fun.
10 years ago I played for nostalgia.
5 years ago I played for the time and money I had spent.
1 year ago I stopped playing.
What made me turn off WoW is the fact that, right after launching an expansion, the old one becomes completely useless... with that the fun ends, the nostalgia doesn't come, the time doesn't last and the money isn't worth it.
the war band thing sounds cool, i hope in the future they implement the option to use Alts as followers or npc like for solo dungeons ;)
As someone who has played every expansion from age 14 to 33, my answer right now is a strong No. Retail WoW is a stitched together Frankenstein fan project by people who inherited a game they did not create and did not respect the lore . It feels like hitting flashing buttons a casino slot machine that is devoid of mystery or rich world-building, and when I play the war within I feel like I am being tricked into a dopamine collection trap like Diablo Immortal. It’s time to let go
You messed up at 3:15
The cosmetic gear has always been more difficult to obtain AFTER those raids and dungeons were difficult to complete, as the drop rate goes from 1% to 0.1% in the following expansion.
I logged into my lvl 70 priest (still without expansion to check what changed and considering upgrading to TWW) and did an Ulduar run cuz I used to do it every week for mounts, but had hard time dealing with leviathan at lvl 70. Is there some scaling changes I’m not aware of?
i think this review caters to the casual gamer, but wow is definitely made for the absolute sweaty pumper on the whole
So if you start a brand new character now, you basically have access to everything you've accomplished on all your other character? Ie, crafting levels, gathering etc?
Not the profession stuff. Nothing that will impact the player economy. However, the Warband bank does give access to mats gathered on one character to use in another characters crafting. They even have a filtering system with it to make it easier.
basically only generic stuff like achievements and a shared vault. Professions would be nice but WoW wants to keep you limited to 2 still i believe. you know....for nostalgia purposes, definitely not because their game can't handle it.
@@raxiddenistrae1208 How would shared professions impact player economy?
Well timed video! I haven't played since Shadowlands and was interested in getting back into it! Thanks for the info. :)
does GW2 still require you pay premium currency to access the previous patched story content? i stopped logging in because of that.
WoW not making WoW2 is a big loss, GW did it with GW2 and look how that went, amazing.
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some played it for two decades and hate everything it has become
i just started wow, and its def worth playing in 2024!
I love this world and combat, but it often feels like combat is the only thing in this world. A dye system, meaningful player housing and more involved professions would go a long way in fleshing out the experience.
u trying Janthir Wilds? Seen a few wow creators turnup in it all of a sudden. Im bias, 20ish hours into it, its miles beta than SoTo, more back to their routes, but doesnt beat the pre-EoD expansions. Sad War within is same week, I play both and this is gonna be knackering!
I cant return to this game. Its just so done. Staying at LOTRO and FFXIV for now
Yeah, this feels very much like a Swan song than a rebirth. They might eek out the full trilogy but honestly i'm hopng the trilogy is the end and they can either reboot a Warcraft MMO without spaghetti code and an upgraded engine or start a new one.
two objectively worse mmo's
Come play Old school RuneScape like a man already
From reading through a lot of the comments. It doesn't actually seem like most of you don't like WoW. It more so seems like you don't like mmorpg's and you're just blaming it on WoW.
Last expansion i purchased was BFA and I didn't finish it as it was a slog fest.
Dragon flight did not appeal as I could imagine getting stuck a lot and not knowing what to do from there.
And you are right the whole chromie era must have had new players wondering what was this mess?
So it is good to hear that they listened especially considering the bad press Blizzard has been getting in the last couple of years +.
I think I will try this expansion as it is new and fresh and if I never saw any old content again I would be so happy.
Plus the single player experience for end game content sounds appealing as I haven't enjoyed WOW groups since the mid 2000's.
If they listen to their fans and give the people what they want at the very high standards they are capable of and lets face it in the world of MMORPG's I really don't think anyone actually makes you go WOW! As much as Blizzard does their art work is incredible as are the little touches that mean so much.
They deserve to keep being successful year after year.
Imagine playing the game for the first time and finding just how much optional content there is to do even when you finish the current expansion. It would knock your socks off.
Thinking about getting into WoW, mostly for the story content. However, I'm old and slow.. As a new player you don't start at the beginning of the story? Is that correct?
you can play wow classic, and then the next 3 classics are the first 3 expansions x
@@remixtheterm thx!
AND you can play it on a potato. It runs on some really old or cheap hardware.
i wish they would turn the pandemonium experience into lvl 10 to 60 experience that way experience the zones in a classic+ feel and earn bronze to get more mounts and transmogs. to me pandemonium was fun in a myths of pandaria + sort of way
This was such a good video :O and I have never played WoW, think imma give it a try!
I tried wow and i just was very confused about the lore and all, the chromi thing is extraordinary confusionary, completistionist and calm is not rewarded, all is focoused only on the last exspansion, the rest of the world is in a timeless blackhole.
Then i tried final fantasy 14.
A lot better, more understable, more lore, just better in all.
And is pretty sad, because I would have liked enjoy it, but I felt it very unwelcoming to new player, all the game was telling me "why you are wasting time questing and doing classic profession?" Just go to chromie fast level, and start the exspansion.
With final fantasy instead I can do all with calm and no pressure.
U didn't mention that the combat of FF 14 is awful
@@leeroyjenkins3209 personally I am liking it more than the wow one, i think are personal preference.
But is even true that if in wow you play an healer you will have a terrible solo exsperience, while in ff14 you can main 2 class at same time (during the main story i am taking e classes at the same time)
The lore in WoW has been destroyed and lobotomized. Not worth paying attention to honestly. Hasn't been since MoP.
@@LEssena00 Definitely personal preference. I prefer WoW's combat but I've also played XIV since 2010 (recently quit) and had grudges with its combat system. I mained DRK and SGE though, and all the tanks/healers are basically just copy/paste with little differences. DPS is a bit more varied between each other, but still could use work...
Stay away from wow it will dispoint you ....
Depends what gamer you are. I honestly think the competition is super lackluster. I like OSRS, and WoW... and that's pretty much it. I cannot for the life of me get into ESO or GW2 despite being big games within this genre... And pretty much every other game is either heavily p2w or dead. Doesn't help that GW2 and ESO don't have servers for my region. I'll pick away at this genre a bit more, but honestly it's tired, and WoW still to this day offers the best experience.
@@readifdumb heard of xiv? like completely fine if it's not a game you like but it's literally the best selling MMO, has been for years, to not even mention it in your "competitors"...?
@@-rakoo-amv454 WoW is the best selling MMO of all time.
@@-rakoo-amv454 Yes, I played FFXIV for awhile actually, several 100 hours. I got to Shadowbringers and just couldn't bring myself to play any longer. All the side content just got watered down into boring daily and weekly challenge log grinds. The story, while good, is heavily padded out and a slog to get through. If someone told me it would take me 1k hours before I reached the new expansion end game content, I probably would of never played to begin with. The game is strong in certain areas, but all the loading screens and quest design, pvp, it's all really bland. It's strongest elements are story, dungeons, raids, which boils down to either doing MSQ which is actively not playing with people, and sitting in Limsa or another major city spamming duty finder. It has pretty much the same problems people don't like about modern WoW, but it has less stuff to do or get excited about, being practically the same game every expansion.
It's a good game, but it's mainly because the MMORPG genre is so weak that it stands out. I seriously think that FFXIV, OSRS, and WoW, are basically the only proper competition, while everything else just feels super lacking. I've played probably over 50 MMOs, some longer than others, and I can't say I'm impressed. It was a life long dream of mine to escape to another reality like Sword Art Online, or to chase after my RuneScape nostalgia, but man this genre is tired.
Looking at War Within, idk what I expected, but it doesn't excite me at all. These games are huge time wasters ultimately, and I can find my time better spent somewhere else. Who knows, maybe I'll come back to WoW again and eat my words, but I seriously am so burnt out trying to care about MMOs just to constantly feel underwhelmed.
it'll take your wallet and time.
I don't think I have been this happy with wow since....wraith. Solo content...finally haha...been waiting years and honestly I had given up hope it would ever happen. I have played wow since day 1 and I own everything to do with wow including the books. That being said I have never done a mythic dungeon, simply because I could never find anyone to teach me wtf they were. Even the people I did find, were way to high up to do a lvl 1 with me. So I just said f it and did everything else from pvp to raids. Now I can finally do what I want without the need to find a group. Now if only there was a hardcore option for a new character haha...doubt it. Anyways I am very happy with the new changes, its refreshing. Also guild wars seems a little dumb to me. Just the concept I don't like. The option to be anything defeats the purpose of your character. No tanks, no support etc. Where is your role? Thats why I never messed with it, even though its free to play. I have played all the other mmorpgs though. Just not guild wars.
I like your ashes of creation break and your description of old grumpy mmo players.
If you can't be bothered to run old content on those alts for xmog, then you probably don't need that transmog anyway.
looks like they agreed with me, they just changed it so you get all mogs on any class :D
recently started playing Guild Wars 2, and I have to say, it seems like GW2 is much better with the expansions compared to WoW. I'm definitely in the mood to play through all the expansions in a row because it's so much fun, and the world never feels empty. There's always something happening somewhere, and I find it really good and relaxing. When I tried WoW, I only got to almost level 20, but I felt so alone. The world was really nice, but I felt isolated. Not the experience I was hoping for an online rpg. What do you think?
I agree. I really enjoy ArenaNet's take on old content always being viable.
GW2 is a different beast. WoW focuses on high end group content and your goal is to earn gear to clear content, to have better gear to clear more content, the questlines and world can be very secondary depending on the extension. GW2 focuses on the main quest and large explorable areas, the goal is to earn all the smaller goals the world has to offer, the high end content is often an after thought.
Benefits of WoW : Every players focus on one expac so new players and vets experience the same fresh things.
Downsides of WoW : The rest of the 20 years worth of content is close to dead. Once you burn through the content, you will restart everything next year.
Benefits of GW2 : The population is easy to encounter on every maps, new players have 12 years worth of alive content. Lots of long term goals.
Downsides of GW2 : Content can get stale pretty quicly for vets. Interactions between players is limited.
they changed the transmog not unlocking for classes, coming 11.0.5
Huge if true!
Only because of giant backlash.
@@LuckyGhostMorgan Day confirmed it's true in an interview. Was not an inteded decision, it just required more work due to the backend code?tech? Somethin like that
Is the action combat mode in the settings only for the newest expansion? I'm currently playing in the dragon flight, I don't recall seeing that setting anywhere.
If it's all chromie from 10-60, then we could just as easily have lvled 10-60 in DF, and leave the old content more optional. Much of it feels dated to the newest expacs.
I've been playing wow almost a month now and I truly like it! But so far the only thing that annoys me is how the transmog system works, I mean that everytime I change gear I gotta transmog it again! I've played ESO over 3500 hours and I absolutely LOVE that I can style my character to look just the way I want ONCE! So even if I change gear it'll stay! Sure it's just a minor thing to many but that truly grinds my gears. 😂
its so funny you mention this. I had this in the video and took it out because it was getting long. But I really wish transmog bound to the slot, and not the item. Its so unecessary to have to re-mog every time i get a minor upgrade. completely agree with you
At least there's a toy now to summon a transmogrifier right next to you
The Class mogs thing is so true. I'm 100% sure that they did that on purpose. So it can be a "new feature" down the line.
When TWW launches you can collect any transmog regardless of class restriction.
@@Cmelacicek is this confirmed?
Grump old players like myself don’t realize that they’re missing a period of time and it has very little to do with the game. The game is objectively way better in every way now than it was in 2005 but your life is probably not as flexible
I personally can't justify spending $20 CAD per month and then another $100 or so on the expansions. I think if they went completely free to play and just charged for the expansions, or had the sub fee but made the expansions free, I could see that being worth it. As a mostly casual player, that's just a ridiculous amount of money every year for something I'm only playing a few hours every week.
yeah it definitely depends on your financial situation, and the way you consume games. If its saving you from needing to spend 60-70 dollars multiple times on other releases throughout the year, you quickly come out ahead. MMOs are cheap compared to keeping up with all the new AAA games as they come out
True if you it that way! @@LuckyGhost
@@LuckyGhost It's sad that people say the alternative is spending 60-70 multiple times on a single game. There are less and less games that you pay for, and get your full game out of.
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Paying for entertainment/hobbies shouldn't even be a conversation, nothing worthwhile is free.
TL;DR: Yes it's worth it if the game looks interesting try it out it's only 15$ until you get to the expansion part then you have to pay for it but by then you will have probably made up your mind if you like it or not. Good for casual and hardcore players if you're casual you can still clear quite a bit of content source my mom who only plays a couple hours a day has cleared quite a bit of content. If you're scared of toxic players don't be first of all it's a random asshole who will never know you in real life fuck them and second of all it's a game nothing you do matters or will benefit your life in any way getting emotionally attached to a game can be incredibly unhealthy so just try not to.
Personally I think World of Warcraft is absolutely worth it there are a few things to keep in mind though. It is not a story driven game meaning it focuses on getting you to running end game content ASAP and there's no level scaling so some zones may be dead or with few players in them while levelling. Not to say there aren't any you can still run dungeons and shit just not as many. Also because it's not story driven the story is generally kinda dog shit especially now according to a lot of people personally I don't pay attention to it I like story games but World of Warcraft is my turn my brain off and kill some big bad guys game not one I'm super lore invested in. It does have lots of lore if you're into that but it's not a main focus. End game content it is a loot treadmill you will constantly get upgrades each season they are decently long so you got time. Now let's talk casual player friendliness I am a 18yr old male with no job who does online schooling so naturally I have absolutely no life and no irl friends so I'm not necessarily casual but I do play lots of games so I kinda am wow is def one of my main focus games but it's not all I play all day. My mom who does have a job and works her ass off does play this game too very casually despite that she's done raids, dungeons, mount collection, mythic+, and PvP she just does whatever she finds fun and will only play for a few hours at most a day. So I would say for both casual and hardcore audiences it's a good game. It can be toxic but fuck them they're pry some fat ass 40 year old man in their parents basement don't let toxic players discourage you from tanking or even engaging in things you enjoy such as raids. I used to let that stop me and I hated it but I got over it so can you.
where are you getting this from? That wow has the most players than any other mmo?
But did they fix solo shuffle queue times? And making it a focal point of the game
*Logs into GW2*
Great video. Totally agree on your viewpoints.
I started playing a week ago, the game almost lost me when i created a base character, and after the tutorial it just throws you in a very confusing story, tried battle for azeroth and it got boring really fast.
Tried creating a Dracthyr, and it got its own storyline, apart from the mess of the main events, and it was a lot more compelling to just play as a class and race I could easily jump into, and just dive into Dragonflight.
Same thing if you start reading a trilogy book with nr 3😊
@@andreichetan4694 I can understand the logic, but WoW is like in the eighty second book, Lot more time and dedication that i am able to give
@@gabrielandrade2566 retail isnt time consuming . Unless you want to bet top 1% in pvp or pve. Otherwise after finishing campaign and gear a bit in pvp and pvp, you can play easily only 5-6 hours a week and be done with it.
They rly improved on this aspect.
I agree, the start may take more hours, first week, but thats in any mmo, even GW2
Anyway , wish you all the best🤗🤗