Is "Warband" a step towards "Mandatory daily grinding with multyple character to have the chance to roll for a some kind of RNG" as in many MMOs full of macrotransactions making tons of money each day ?
Quit two months ago and returned to GW2. I haven't even bought the newest GW2 expansion yet because I have so much earlier content to catch up on. The WoW expansion is NOT worth the $50 box price plus $15 sub. Before quitting, I was only playing rated Blitz Brawl PvP. And as fun as that was, it's not worth paying a monthly sub just for that content.
@@Spooh it's crazy that he didn't know. As someone who has watched him for years... Like how? Any one who "loves them some wow pvp" would immediately realize this was bots. Not to mention people are usually expressing it in chat for those who don't know so that the win is ensured. I love Peon but this entire video is just.... So extra lol
@@illiberalautist2222 Thats why everyone that actually plays it says its good and clinically online wow haters keep coping about it being bad. Beyond delusions
Right? Felt weird especially his opinion about the questing. Part of questing is the story and he doesn't care about that which is okay but can't really criticize something you don't care about in general
@@RandomUser311 exactly, people need to learn to read and listen. He literally said he hasn't looked up or seen anything before the video, if someone assumes anything he says is 100% true that's just a them problem, go to school.
I’m usually a fan of these, but this video really missed the mark in terms of uninformed guessing and poor judgement. Delves aren’t solo, warband is account wide, judging the story as “bad” while skipping everything story related, and not even looking at the professions. Players that skip story and say it’s shit are the reason Blizzard doesn’t put any stock into their story. When they do and people say it’s shit, they tend to think nobody cares for story period.
@@X.D.T. Either that or he just really hates WoW from when he played himself. He sounds over it through the entire video, like he doesn't want to play it at all.
The story isn't impressive, it was a slog to go through on my main and now I am dungeon spamming on my alts to get them to max. Not going through TWW's leveling experience again when it comes to quests.
@@porthub3553 All your character can access the warband bank and share quest/reputation, not just the the 4 favorites on the character select screen. Don't chime in when you have no clue.
@@lucaleone4331 I've actually been wondering about that with youtubers who play and dedicate all their time to play games, don't they ever get tired of it?? Even if he gets sponsored and all he is still a hobby reviwer/tuber, I think? Also he is quite dedicated for MMOs and hates pay2win mechanics etc so, haha.. Doesn't look very promising for him anytime soon, yeah?
@@CatDad312 sure if you have less than 4 characters before this, but Like Peon and myself if you have played before you can instantly notice the difference on a brand new character. "Why do I have all these flight paths, and every other quest I accept says I have done it already" It's not like peon hasn't played WoW before. He played a long time ago, he played private servers, and he has now played modern WoW. This is simply an oversight on his part, a new player like oversight.
Love your videos Peon, but this is one I just simply have to disagree with. I get that you care about the end game stuff most, and that's fair, but to say that 1) The launch was dead when that seems to be 100% your server is a vast over generalization and 2) The the MSQ was boring is really selling it short. If you actually just slowed down and read/listened to what was going on in the story I think you would've enjoyed it. It is by far the most complete story Blizzard has told in YEARS.
yep, the only dissapoiting thing was this review, the hate of the delves , is mob have to much hp, that's a you are doing little dps/skill issue. and this is only lvl 3 from 12... he didn't even opened or learn any professions who are better then ever before. skipped the entire reading even freaking watching the cinematics.. like cmon.... Heroic dungeons are literally just to experience the content have not real challenge , cant judge the gameplay without mythics. the "hype is entirely a subjective thing" better having a smooth launch than lag and 10000 people taking your mobs , just old people thinking the game was good having lag in 2006... was a good thing. Also , about addons , the "edit UI" from blizz right now is better than ever before. and the cherry on top of "female are bad" .
The story was fine, but it was still a lot of kill 10 bears and melodrama. It's just more WoW story. Having finished it this morning, the actual ending was quite nice if predictable. Which is fine, the whole time I was hoping for the predictable thing, because I did want a good ending for those characters. But MMOs in general aren't about some single player story, it's kind of the worst medium to tell them in. No idea why they've been forcing you to do them for a few expansions now if some people just don't care. Saying "it's good but you didn't experience it correctly" is kind of nonsense.
The MSQ is bad. Not bad as in it gets bad reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, it was just a slog to get through and almost none of it was interesting. By the time you finish it/get to max level the experience just feels unsatisfying, like you went to see a movie that that people liked but you walk out rating it a C-.
It seems like you just try out the new WoW expacs because people expect you to, and you don't actually review them with any care or investment anymore. "Dungeon gear is worthless" when you ran a normal, not even a heroic. The heroics ship with launch, you can see them, they're just grayed out till you hit an ilvl appropiate. "Where are all the players?" In the PVP area with Warmode off. Not there, PVP players are usually in Warmode so you won't see them. I'd forgive a new player for not picking up on these things, but you're an experienced WoW and MMO player. These aren't new things/concepts.
Yea after this video I'll click on "don't recommend this channel". The amount of ignorance and just overall mood it feels like he never gave xpack the chance, idk I've enjoyed his content before but this is just sad
He does the same shit with the others. I play GW2 a lot and his GW2 video is exactly like this: no effort to actually understand the game, and then gets mad when something doesn't work.
@@Manhattan_Martythis isn't even a proper first impressions. Lol he skips reading anything at all. He didn't even read the things that explain the most basic devices. How can you have a first impression if you literally do nothing at all that is intended? First impressions would be do as the game directed you to do. This is a "I feel like I've played wow forever and can skip anything I want and still have a clue" . Not a first impressions.
Delves aren't exclusively solo content. You were just choosing to do them solo. You can do them with up to 5 ppl. Also the city probably seemed empty because most ppl are doing world events, farming rare mounts, or doing professions, all things you chose to skip over.
Do you get more loot with people or just for the social aspect? World events, farming rare mounts, and doing professions are the same stuff wow has done before and the cities still felt full of people.
The story is terrible, stop trying to make the expansion look good Blizzard employee/bot. It has the same terrible story every other expansion does with weird stilted delivery and le epic scene at the end where the bad guy talks smack, gets an artifact, destroyed, then curses you. No doubt we won't be able to finish them off until the last patch too.
@@Benisbucker People will learn this bit by bit, I did after diablo 4 and dragon's dogma 2. RUclipsrs can be sellouts af too etc. Just better to presume triple A games are bad until really proven otherwise with proper research of gameplay videos etc. In this case I think reading a few metacritic reviews will show the score of 3-4/10. If one neglect the one punch bots that gives score 10 etc.
Is this... Is this a joke? The whole video is so littered with mistakes it feels like he's not even trying. Some of the misinformation I can forgive as it may not be clear at first glance, but it seems like he isn't reading the 3 lines of explanation and then goes on to complain that he doesn't understand. 9th expansion? It's the 10th. Your Warband is your entire account, the favorite 4 are just the ones shown around the campfire on the character select screen. Delves aren't "solo", they CAN be played solo, so of course you're gonna feel more lonely if you decide to run them solo instead of with friends. I thnk hype/excitement around The War Within is a very subjective thing, like saying "none of my friends were talking about the launch" is valid and all, but as someone who played on both the early access launch and the "real" launch, there were plenty of people and plenty of excitement. Streamers returning, my friends list was full, guild was buzzing, and it was all good. But my experience is not everyone's, I recognize that. Not sure what was going on with him not seeing a lot of players, maybe it's a phasing+realm+time of day issue? Dornogal is quite full on my low-pop server anyway. But once again, that's very subjective and may vary greatly. I think this whole video can be summarized by looking at 18:06. The guy has queued for a Comp Stomp, an Arathi Basin vs NPCs. The one with like 99% winrate because the bots are stupid and somewhat undergeared. And he's talking about how he loves the one-sided Arathi Basin matches. I think that tells you all you need to know if you need to know. If you don't plan on reading everything, even what is literally right next to the button you're about to press, then you might not have as good of a time. What I am criticizing here isn't the whole "What's it like to play again in The War Within?" concept, I totally respect that not everyone plays WoW - and not everyone who returns will enjoy it. That's fair. But this is like watching this video and going "But who uploaded it? This was apparently made by a guy called Starforge Systems or something. Also, I am 7 minutes into the video and he hasn't told me if it's worth playing yet? 400 likes, seems like the least hyped video he has ever made." So take this whole video with a grain of salt. It's clearly not a "Is it worth playing TWW as a returning player?" - it's a "Do I, TheLazyPeon, like TWW so far?" There are some valid criticisms, but again, it's hard to take them seriously when the next shot is of a guy bragging about how he's dominating a BG, not realizing he's playing against bots.
Think 17:54 says it all, he obviously has no interest in the game, and just needs to tick it of the list for content, which I get, but do some basic fact checks at least...
@@decyl_8878 he is addicted to OSRS and had 0 interest in playing and reviewing this game, it shows, just made the review to pay his bills which is so dissapointing
You should make sure you're right before going so hard on misinformation. Delves ARE Solo. You CAN play with friends, but only via premade. That's not the same as what you're saying. It's also much more reasonable that he wasn't aware of that given they were marketed heavily as a solo experience, which they primarily are, going in with friends is the optional part. Also I don't know why people are getting hung up on any of this. Its a first impression, not a review and he clearly went in almost 100% blind which is entirely his choice. If anything is wrong its that the editor didn't put some clarifications up in post on anything said that was wrong.
Ban add-ons and improve the UI really means ban WA and DBM style add-ons and make the UI like ElvUi with bartender functionality etc... but if you do that you'll either have to nerf the hell out of the recent content or turn rating into even more of a niche. And good luck tracking modern numbers and complexity of cooldowns and debuffs in arena. Like it or not the game has been over-designed and calibrated for WA and DBM since Cata if not WotLK
@@Mike-ce2nk I didn't start using DBM until HFC. I stopped using WAs. With the UI integrating Bartender functionality, I don't use it anymore. I have a CD tracker for M+. I have addons for PvP. I use DBM and Details for raids. All other add-ons are my feel-good addons. And people are surprised at my UI lol. But I've gotten so used to them.
As someone who's jumping in after a long break after Shadowlands who never experienced Dragonflight + War Within, I'm quite enjoying it. Tons of quality of life stuff for new/returning players, solo options with delves, two flight styles now, alt friendly, it's not revolutionary but it's really solid MMORPG to jump into for just about anyone. I like it.
My primary game is Old School RuneScape but they announced the largest price increases ever to about $14/mo so I'm switching over to WoW now to try something new.
You haven't - really- played the expansion, have you? A lot of the things that you say/guess in the video are simply not true. How can you say that the story is bad when you don't read anything and skip everything? Atleast just say that you are not interested in the story
The story is fucking dogshit. It's the same crap as Dragonflight and not improved in anyway. You'd have to be a Blizzard employee or a legitimate bot to think the writing in TWW is in any shape or form good. It's contrived slop with terrible stilted voice acting on top of it.
Guess you're living up to the name Lazy. You could have done some basic research before making a video with unfounded assumptions and just totally wrong information.
@@dariciesglaciem3009 the game is for almost nobody, a very tiny amount of boomers who cannot let go of this pay2win garbage. 200k peak twitch viewers lmao.
@@Angelvanberghen it's weapon grade cope from addicted retail boomers who think wow has any relevancy left to the point of everyone just knowing how all works
@@TrepidFaceHugger He's not salty. I came back several months before the end of DF and I find TWW unsatisfying if not disappointing so far, nothing about this expansion outside of some QoL changes seem appealing. Gameplay-wise, the Hero Talents are a cool concept but for some classes are crap, the Dark Ranger tree for Hunters being an example.
People who still play retail are perfectly okay with the game being stagnant, lifeless, and unfriendly to new players. Hell, they even pay extra money on top of their box price and sub fee to experience the same shit early over and over. "This is the same criticism we've heard for 5 expansions, nothing surprising or new here." Yeah, exactly, that's the fucking problem.
@@porthub3553Why are you watching WoW content if you hate WoW? Retail is very popular right now. Solo content is great for the game because some people like avoid toxic players like yourself.
As a long time player, this really has been the best expansion in a while so far. The focus on narrative driven story and alt-friendlyness of leveling/gearing, its shaping up to be a really solid expansion, I just hope that raid and m+ tuning isn't super oppressive and the fight designs for raid are unique and fun.
Giving spoilers for Dalaran and Khadgar with no warning on a first impressions that a lot of people will watch to decide if they want to play, so won't have experienced yet was a REALLY shitty thing to do.
Seems to be his flaw, he doesn't really pay attention or care about story in any mmos generally (Hence all his skipping and lack of like on ff14) so i guess for some reason it just doesn't occur to him the importance of spoiler warnings or smt.
@@BogzySamaAre you sure ? Because when something popped with Information or the npc got more to say he just chose to skip ... What do you want? A big widow telling you when you enter the first delve: " YOU MORON, YOU CAN QUE WITH PEOPLE ON THIS ONE" instead of reading what bran has to say ?
@@fushisaky What are you even saying? A system should not be explained through npc exposition and realistically its very easy to clarify things with a simple UI icon over a popup so if you can miss anything by skipping dialogue thats 100% a blizzard problem. Delves were marketed as solo, its not unreasonable at all for him to not be aware you can join with a premade group. If anything what you're saying is wrong since it implies you can just queue with others like a dungeon which is not the case.
Stop dickriding. I’ve watched the lazy peon for 8+ years and this is by far the most disconnected video he has posted about WoW. No hate to him directly, but it just seems he doesn’t enjoy the game anymore which is okay, but he shouldn’t be spreading misinformation on features of the game to his viewers as it will cause them to not even try out the new expansion. Saying dragonflight was more encapsulating at the start of the xpac is the silliest thing he could have said. The game is much closer to its roots now and he clearly didn’t pay attention to any of the story as he didn’t mention it once in his video and skips all the dialogue screens.
I’ll have to completely and totally disagree on the leveling experience. I usually feel the same way and just rush to max level not caring for the story. This time it was different. I think if you gave the story the old college try, you’d be pleasantly surprised
I was listening to this in the background as I worked and I just found myself laughing so much! Especially during the spider zone. "Yeah, I'm sure I am welcome here. Welcome for dinner later on" Haha! Thanks for the laughs and the info.
I agree this is the least hype expac sofar, which is insane cause DF had like 0 hype. Sad they pulled this early access bs cause it just killed the hype for a kinda good expac
I've been really enjoying this expansion so far. Really nice to see Blizz stepping up their game story wise! The music and general atmosphere has been solid, and of course the gameplay just feels good. It's not the most mind blowing expansion, but generally speaking just feels like an improvement across the board. Hope they keep this up!
First met this guy during mop he was streaming on twitch to a small audience and hosting a duel tournament on his feral. Crazy to see how far he's come. Just shows the key to anything in life is consistency.
Quick instanced solo player content that rewards decent gear?.....Npc teammates in dungeons? ehhh. The slippery slope is literally undefeated in WoW. These are terrible changes for the game and will only make it worse down the line. Quick look at the forums and people are arguing that delves should give mythic raid level gear.....and the majority seems to agree. Yikes, no wonder they brought the older versions back.
i dont think Blizzard hyped it up much at all, which means it doesnt have to meet peoples super high expectations, its a great expansion and people are rating it highly
The takes on this video were some of the worst Peon takes ever. War within has been some of the most refreshing Wow content in years. Delves are an absolute blast.
because he is just lazy, addons are simple, and there is a whole manager system, and once you install an addon, all you gotta do is update it every so often with a click of the button. It's also not like you need 5000 addons to do high-end content, it's a few. This dude's content has gone down hill over the years. Living up to his name for sure.
The hate for addons is def unwarranted and taking away the freedom and user-control is the last thing we need in this day and age where its the norm for companies to micro-manage everything down to the basic graphical interface and not give the user any sort of control or flexibility in modifying it to their own personal likings. I started playing WoW in WoD and the idea of addons was never confusing, nor overwhelming for me at all and I doubt it's that for others aswell since modding in general isn't exactly a foreign concept to PC gamers. And in WoW its just super easy as-well with just a simple addon manager. And I even gone as far now to learn LUA scripting and try to "rice" my WoW UI to make it something cool and make the game display information in a way it makes the most sense for me, which definitely has become one of my side WoW-hobbies. Now I get the vast majority of players are not gonna be intressted in that and that too is perfectly fine. Even I myself for years pretty much never configured any of the addons I got and using their out of box settings and I still did all the mid-core content.
TWW is pretty mediocre. The story is better than in the previous expansion although it misses the epicness of pre-BfA stories. As a warlock I have to say, the class plays awful. There is no worse feeling than casting something below GCD. Also I have the feeling that my damage is so proc based that I have no control over it. Seems similar to other classes. Delves are just boring beyond the 1st clear. Needing a key for the big chest is just stupid. Some dungeons are a hit, some are a miss. So yeah, I regret having bought the expansion.
Hey, I'm going to Thailand soon for 6 months for work. I wanted to ask how it is with playing WoW on EU servers. Is it playable with a higher ping or how does it look like here?
This is a terrible video. It’s okay if he doesn’t like the game anymore or the expansion. But half the information was just factually and objectively wrong. I’ve been a huge fan of Craig for years now, but it’s clear he is burnt out on WoW and has a lot of negative biases towards it. I’ve quit WoW and came back multiple times over the years, so I’m well aware of the games faults. But if you’re making a video, as arguably the biggest MMO channel on RUclips, he should be doing more than 10 minutes of research on the game. This video is straight up spreading misinformation.
@@McC1oudv2 not really that unpopular, classic is right there. People just don't have time anymore. They go for RPGs for that experience, for group activities and the MMOrpg audience, who has time to wait/to dedicate themselves for months to kill a boss/raid?
Most fun I’ve had in wow since WoD. That said the dungeons and heroics have been snooze so far. The story and questing was great and a lot of nice updates. Just wish some of it wasn’t so watered down complexity wise.
I agree that addons that directly intervene in game mechanics were never really good for the game.. But I still loved how pure artistic GUIs could individualize each of your characters. Having an Arcane mage with an arcane themed GUI and when i skill to Fire it switches to fire was cool And don't ask what stupid GUIs i had for my druid... :-X
Major criticism for this video is: The season hasn't started and you aren't able to play the end-game content like raids and M+, where most of the gameplay loop revolves around and what most people play for. This review is at least 1 month too early
Responding to the angry crowd here - I actually did read each MSQ quest and took my time. Isle of Dorm was decent story wise. Ringing deeps was terrible. Hollowfall is aesthetically and lore wise the best zone and the story was decent. The final zone the story is not very good. The quality is very much all over the place. I’d rate the zones as Hollowfall, Isle of Dorn, Ringing Deeps, then Azhkahet. Delves are terrible and are a slightly more repeatable version of Torghast. The hero talents are fun. PvP seems like it’ll be great. The expansion doesn’t make me want to do PvE again after I quit in SL.
Addons is actually a big reason why I love WoW. Drives me nuts when I try other MMOs and they either have no addon support or no one making the addons. Each to their own I guess.
Blizz will never remove addons. That said they don't need to all they need to do is limit what the API can access. That would stop things like DBM being mandatory and limit how crazy weak auras can be which would also means they dont have to build mechanics around any of that and raids would be more fun.
and the 4 characters that appear are just the ones you have favorited whatever number of characters you may have are still part of your warband sharing everything among em
*proceeds to skip all the cutscenes and doesn't listen to the * "I wish they wouldn't do cutscenes and just send me to off kill things" "standard story" Dude, I don't know what to tell you.... you get what you put into it. Do you even know what the story was? Or is that just, like, your feelies? 🙄 "Launch failure" now means it wasn't hyped for you? I thought failed launches meant that servers crashed and there were endless bugs. Your name really comes into play here, because it feels like you just "zug zugged" through this thing like a Lazy Peon. There's definitely things to criticize the game for, but your perspective just feels like it's coming from that one friend you forced to play WoW and they really would just do something else. You spend more time putting care and attention to detail into a game that's nowhere near launching (Ashes of Creation). F minus
For any PvP enjoyers, there is now solo queue ranked battlegrounds in addition to the previously added ranked solo shuffle arena. This was what brought me back, I only play PvP games and this new expansion will hopefully drag me away from LoL for a while.
Yeah would be better for everyone if the addons were purged and things were just customizable in game similar to what they've done with the action bars.
a bit weird for the take in this video... For a first impressions video, it's strange how you skip over the fact the storytelling in this expansion is clearly better and the side quests are also better in general. There are small features like the "stay a while & listen" which you can select and the characters will keep talking expanding the story further. You could've also mentioned that apart from the making the game alt friendly this is the second expansion without systems meaning that blizzard was able to built on the already simpler game that was dragonflight. Also, first impressions video and no hero talents? w/e
"is it worth playing " ,all the vid is just skipping story and is not interested to go through so he can tell us how it was ! spolling story Didnt even do research before putting the vid together,(warbands info, delve info, etc.) if you are ignorant then why bother! just do what you love and stop making videos if your heart is not in it
Not gonna lie, if they included a decent native DPS/heals meter and proper functional raid UI that was healer friendly, I'd be over the moon about removing all addons as a blanket rule. I HATE the addon politics, and gatekeeping, and I would actually consider coming back to the game if they stopped that shite cold. And OOOOOH An arachnid expansion... LOVELY for arachnophobes!! 🤦
Some people need to understand that not every player will inform themselves about every new feature/detail about a game before buying. A lot of players just see the trailer then buy and play.
But he is a reviewer content creator, he need to know what he is talking about to not spread misinformation, leading viewers to taking wrong conclusions.
@@edivaldosantos8321 He's not just a reviewer, read the title, also first minute of the video said he didn't look anything up before playing, as how anyone should play new games/dlcs instead of looking up everything before even touching the game, that is just sad
eh.. after reading some of the comments it's pretty obvious that it's a bunch of sweaty wow fanbois downvoting the most surprising thing is that those still exist
To me the quality of life changes are the selling point. Sharing inventory and having a reagent bank helps with professions so much. I don't have to send all of my items through the mail to alts to create a self-sufficient profession chain. I can tell that content is gonna probably be the most fun of all.
LOL the retail andies all over the comments crying about a negative video of their precious game xD these fanboys live in fantasy world where no one is allowed to have a different opinion on their dying game. They only play wow so they think anything wow does is the best thing ever (they really need to try out other games) and they legit have no standards so they are fine paying $15 a month on subpar at best content Btw retail fanboys, you wanna try and explain why blizzard once again hasn't released any sales figure for TWW? Oof, guess it sold even worse than DF, barely made any traction on twitch and a few QoL improvements don't change how generic and formulaic all the content has become, barely any new features in an expansion, delves are reskinned scenarios/open-world dungeons that have already become stale, pvp is a disaster, story is even worse than DF, hero classes are boring, early access bs ruined the launch and on and on with the issues.
Nah bro you're missing the point here, see Blizzard is actually pulling a 500 IQ move by releasing less and less content year after year, alienating the playerbase that actually have any standards. By doing this, the only people that remain are these wow white-knights who not only eat up any garbage Blizzard releases, they actually pay extra to play it 3 days earlier while endlessly defending the game without any complaint. I bet (and quote me when it happens) after a while they'll get away with selling classic versions of modern day expansions at full price. Only difference likely gonna be, that now you can pay $50 extra to play a week earlier and $100 extra to have GPT-4.0 power the bots in your raid group instead of GPT-3.5
@@balazs787 lol ya I can see that happen, the ppl left playing retail literally have no standards at all and just eat up any and all the shit Blizzard shovel at them, then they go around defending blizzard and saying "omg retail is so gooooood!"
@@voidox Truly unfortunate what happened to retail too. They butchered the story, they killed off (both literally and figuratively) characters with DECADES of character development, haven't added anything meaningful to PvP or PVE for years. The art team was carrying them for a while, but since Shadowlands even that department feels uninspired to work anymore. Now they try to copy shit from PoE while doing absolutely zero research into why it was fun there... It would take a team of people who are ALL fully passionate about the game with realistic deadlines to turn this ship around, ...but now with Microsoft at the wheel, I really can't see that ever happening.
@@balazs787 yup, Danuser and co. ruined the story from BFA, even legion had a lot of messy writing and the final patch was a complete waste of story/characters that should've been an entire expansion like Azshara and Nz'oth. and even with Danuser gone, his writing team is still there and somehow the writing has gotten even worse. DF was as bad as SL and TWW is only slightly better, still awful. All the retcons and destruction of the Warcraft lore and IP people loved before BFA :/ then ya, from DF even the art team has gone down a lot in quality, disneyfying the visuals of the game and adding awful furry stuff like dragonkin and whatnot :/ As you say, they just copy-paste stuff now like look how uncreative and bad their take was on the actual emerald of dream zone... so bad. basically the game has declined into the same shit over and over each patch just in new zones that now are boring maps. Even expansions are just big patches with barely more content than the basics of 3-4 new zones, new dungeons, new raid, das it. It's so lacking and formulaic now.
@@voidox Completely agree. Yeah, "disneyfying" is such a perfect way to put it. I couldn't believe how un-thematic Revendreth was for example, with complete lack of shadows and contrast. Even Ardenweald had more of a "dark zone" feeling
Are they just bringing this game back? Or was it even still active for a while? I’m asking bc I played the absolute heck out of this game as a young kid played until teenage years. It’s been atleast 12 yrs maybe
Yeah, Dornogal is very populated on EU servers. Delves are awesome! 571 gear is also easy to obtain via delves and world quests, I haven't done any HC dungeons and I am ilvl 573 albeit I did upgrade my weapon to 593 Also, did you pay attention to the story at all? You didn't talk about it.
The modern WoW player base only cares about rushing as fast as possible to get to the end game crap and chooses to wholly ignore the importance of game design in terms of rewarding exploration, well integrated questing and, of course, actual leveling difficulty. Spamming 3 buttons in the same order against a scripted event boss at max level with bis gear is NOT fun (unless you also enjoy watching paint dry I suppose). The present Wow players only focus on reaching max level in a day, then complain further that the game is too hard 😅 No wonder Activision is like 'yea why bother, make leveling as unexciting and generic as possible noone cares anyway' 😂
"I think they should ban every UI except for the one that I like" So let's make sure that everyone has the same UI that he likes and ban everything else! What a stupid comment!
Yeah that comment actually pissed me off a bit. I haven't even played this game in so many years, but addons were a great addition that have only gotten better from what I've heard...
Natural counter reaction to years of toxic negativity. Tbh most youtubers i follow aren't toxically positive. Belullar are a good example, they seem very positive about the expansion so far, but it doesn't feel like naive or stupid ie. "Toxic positivity".
He didn't have a single point this's coming from a guy that hasn't played wow over 6 years, you can't make a review of a game for the sake of parroting thing and not doing a single basic research about the game...
Yeah man normally I love your vids but this one just... missed. There is a lot of hype around this expansion and a lot of people are just enjoying it. The storyline was good, the cutscenes were good and this expansion has some of the best level, music and class design in a very long time. Some of them, like Hallowfall, in the history of the game. End game has been fun, delves are great, the horizon seems solid at least for the next 6 months. I just feel ya had a bad take with this one. And that's fine! Just don't agree this time around on my end.
tbh even though it wasn't hyped I didn't care because I started playing few days later anyway, when it comes to gameplay I love new hero talents so leveling feels very good too and and it is very fun to play overall. lore was decent sometimes even compelling and much better than dragonflight in my opinion overall very good and decent wow expansion for wow enjoyers but nothing very new
I was a big fan of WoW, played the WotLK expansion over years but then they slowly started to run out of new, catchy ideas, and the graphics have remained the same (which was good until - lets say - 2010). The battlegrounds were so good and entertaining - even if you played the same BG over and over again, it never got boring. I really liked Cataclysm too but what came after that, couldn't keep my attention that much. I tried Dragonflight, I enjoyed the first few days but then I got bored. I couldn't find a suitable guild that I can call "home". Everybody was just so cold, and selfish, and always in a rush - wanted their gear asap - social relations didn't mean anything anymore. The game changed, just like people. Now I just prefer to play games with modern graphics like Throne and Liberty. Even if it gets boring after a month, and people are only tools, it's still gonna be much more enjoyable than this WoW expansion. I was frustrated and got a headache just by watching it. 😐
it feels like the gameplay of wow has really stayed the same since pandaria until now and blizzard are too scared of trying to change the gameplay of being focused around just dungeons, raids, and pvp as endgame progression, so wow will sadly never be the best mmorpg
I never seen any announcements or recommended videos for this expansion release. I had to look it up because how little hype there seems to be. Dragon flight was huge. What happened?
If you're making your decision based on what this guy said in the video, just read all the other comments. This video was one of the worst he has ever done.
Warbands made getting my alts up to gear cap ALOT easier and more time I can spend in raids with my closest friends I managed to get my favorites up quick Shaman (main) - resto Rogue - combat Mage - fire paladin -holy (OP as hell) The only add on I have installed is ElvUI lol
"If you are doing dungeons with NPCsand wipe, you are the problem and there is nobody else to blame" You underestimate the average MMORPG players ability to shift blame
My husband and I decided to come back for this one, we decided we'd "vanilla" it by doing every single side quest in each zone before moving on, we've been skipping most of the delves for now too. We hit 80 by the 3rd zone and we're enjoying playing together. I'll be honest though, I don't feel a pull to level up all the rest of my alts... we used to live in this game, but ever since Cata we've enjoyed and played each expansion less. Maybe 20 years is too long for one game. /shrug
I never comment on videos, but this one is a huge miss Peon. I have been a fan of your content for ages, and I still am. This is an entertaining video, but that is also a part of the issue. If I didn’t play the game right now myself, I wouldn’t play it based on your video. This would have meant I would have missed out on one of the most fun WoW experiences I’ve had in YEARS!!! Please, reassess the WoW expansion!
I think a lot of comments are a bit harsh, but it would be helpful to be more definitive in your conclusions. I've noticed the WoW community is the most toxic it's ever been in this expansion. The story was good, the cutscenes and "Stay Awhiles" were very good, you missed out if you skipped them, but I do agree it's just the same old formula Blizzard has been using for years. If you don't like grinding dungeons or crafting I don't think WoW is for you anymore. I finished the MSQ and I'm finding it hard to keep playing. Plus, let's not forget, people are still recovering from Shadowlands so the bar is REALLY low...
Usually love your videos but this one wasn't it. How can you do a "Is it Worth Playing" video and every other sentence is "I don't know I didn't really pay attention"
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Is "Warband" a step towards "Mandatory daily grinding with multyple character to have the chance to roll for a some kind of RNG" as in many MMOs full of macrotransactions making tons of money each day ?
@@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660 no. Not at all. It's literally just a way to say all of your things are shared account wide now.
Quit two months ago and returned to GW2. I haven't even bought the newest GW2 expansion yet because I have so much earlier content to catch up on.
The WoW expansion is NOT worth the $50 box price plus $15 sub. Before quitting, I was only playing rated Blitz Brawl PvP. And as fun as that was, it's not worth paying a monthly sub just for that content.
Your battleground footage was against bots, that brawl is vs fully honor geared bots
This is not a high enough upvoted comment. I laughed out loud when I saw this. No way he didn't know...
" I always enjoy some wow pvp"
" wow the horde are getting rinsed"
I think Peon needs to spend less time in front of the mirror and more time playing the MMOs that he reviews.
@@trimethicon2719 real degen speaking
@@Spooh it's crazy that he didn't know. As someone who has watched him for years... Like how? Any one who "loves them some wow pvp" would immediately realize this was bots. Not to mention people are usually expressing it in chat for those who don't know so that the win is ensured. I love Peon but this entire video is just.... So extra lol
i dont think you can really judge the story since you dont pay enough attention to it
"There's good spiders and bad spiders, brilliant." He says after skipping every dialogue and cutscene.
It's terrible, stop coping
@@illiberalautist2222 Thats why everyone that actually plays it says its good and clinically online wow haters keep coping about it being bad. Beyond delusions
Right? Felt weird especially his opinion about the questing. Part of questing is the story and he doesn't care about that which is okay but can't really criticize something you don't care about in general
@@illiberalautist2222not really stories been fine and pvp feels fine just most folks have the attention span of a monkey
So much uninformed guessing in this video. Ninth expansion, I guess. Warbands are not account wide, I guess. Delves are solo, I guess.
When things are so boring and souless, it's not very exciting or revolutionary.
It's not a review though, it's a first impressions video.
Man, it's like he disclaimed that within the first five minutes of the video, I guess.
@@RandomUser311 exactly, people need to learn to read and listen. He literally said he hasn't looked up or seen anything before the video, if someone assumes anything he says is 100% true that's just a them problem, go to school.
@@groovy7896 😭😭 fr
Warband is your entire account, not your 4 favorite characters.
People are still confused about this
THIS.
No it's not you fool.
Lol and he makes videos to tell people to play or not....(yea wow is 100% awesome tho)
Reviewers don't play the game.
I’m usually a fan of these, but this video really missed the mark in terms of uninformed guessing and poor judgement.
Delves aren’t solo, warband is account wide, judging the story as “bad” while skipping everything story related, and not even looking at the professions.
Players that skip story and say it’s shit are the reason Blizzard doesn’t put any stock into their story. When they do and people say it’s shit, they tend to think nobody cares for story period.
Makes you wonder if it is the same for all the games reviewed🤔
It's all copy and paste, low effort, DEI slop. Stop coping
@@X.D.T. Either that or he just really hates WoW from when he played himself. He sounds over it through the entire video, like he doesn't want to play it at all.
It's almost as if it's an actual "first impressions" instead of someone reading off info from wowhead
The story isn't impressive, it was a slog to go through on my main and now I am dungeon spamming on my alts to get them to max. Not going through TWW's leveling experience again when it comes to quests.
Aren't all of our alts in the Warband, despite there just being 4 in the log in screen?
yes. top 4 are just your favorites
No it's not dude. I don't even play and I know this.
@@porthub3553
@@porthub3553 All your character can access the warband bank and share quest/reputation, not just the the 4 favorites on the character select screen. Don't chime in when you have no clue.
@@porthub3553He correct. Warband is account-wide across all servers. Why comment if you don’t play? lol
Long time fan here Peon, and my dude, what is happening? quality has been sinking. At this point i'm thinking u only do videos for the ads.
Yeah Ive kind of felt that way for a while.
It does just seem like a job he has to get up and do, instead of an artistic passion.
@@lucaleone4331 I've actually been wondering about that with youtubers who play and dedicate all their time to play games, don't they ever get tired of it?? Even if he gets sponsored and all he is still a hobby reviwer/tuber, I think?
Also he is quite dedicated for MMOs and hates pay2win mechanics etc so, haha.. Doesn't look very promising for him anytime soon, yeah?
Yeah it's just embarrasing by now.
Who can blame him when when all games are so bad
@@bokelund9176 someone should play a game before saying that it is bad.
Your Warband is most certainly NOT just 4 characters. Even on the page you showed in the video it literally says "account-wide"
It’s reasonable to be confused by this considering it shows four characters paired together.
Then why group only 4 of them? Just for visually fit them into scene I guess
@@CatDad312 it says its your favorites and not "choose the four character that will be your warband".
@@hakanakdag9491 Exactly yeah, its only for that campfire aesthetic.
@@CatDad312 sure if you have less than 4 characters before this, but Like Peon and myself if you have played before you can instantly notice the difference on a brand new character. "Why do I have all these flight paths, and every other quest I accept says I have done it already" It's not like peon hasn't played WoW before. He played a long time ago, he played private servers, and he has now played modern WoW. This is simply an oversight on his part, a new player like oversight.
Love your videos Peon, but this is one I just simply have to disagree with. I get that you care about the end game stuff most, and that's fair, but to say that 1) The launch was dead when that seems to be 100% your server is a vast over generalization and 2) The the MSQ was boring is really selling it short. If you actually just slowed down and read/listened to what was going on in the story I think you would've enjoyed it. It is by far the most complete story Blizzard has told in YEARS.
yep, the only dissapoiting thing was this review, the hate of the delves , is mob have to much hp, that's a you are doing little dps/skill issue. and this is only lvl 3 from 12...
he didn't even opened or learn any professions who are better then ever before.
skipped the entire reading even freaking watching the cinematics.. like cmon....
Heroic dungeons are literally just to experience the content have not real challenge , cant judge the gameplay without mythics.
the "hype is entirely a subjective thing"
better having a smooth launch than lag and 10000 people taking your mobs , just old people thinking the game was good having lag in 2006... was a good thing.
Also , about addons , the "edit UI" from blizz right now is better than ever before.
and the cherry on top of "female are bad" .
The story was fine, but it was still a lot of kill 10 bears and melodrama. It's just more WoW story. Having finished it this morning, the actual ending was quite nice if predictable. Which is fine, the whole time I was hoping for the predictable thing, because I did want a good ending for those characters. But MMOs in general aren't about some single player story, it's kind of the worst medium to tell them in. No idea why they've been forcing you to do them for a few expansions now if some people just don't care. Saying "it's good but you didn't experience it correctly" is kind of nonsense.
Wow fans huffing copium out here in 2024
The MSQ is bad. Not bad as in it gets bad reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, it was just a slog to get through and almost none of it was interesting. By the time you finish it/get to max level the experience just feels unsatisfying, like you went to see a movie that that people liked but you walk out rating it a C-.
he did the same thing for the GW2 soto video and got flamed for it, clearly uninterested and providing uninformed takes
It seems like you just try out the new WoW expacs because people expect you to, and you don't actually review them with any care or investment anymore. "Dungeon gear is worthless" when you ran a normal, not even a heroic. The heroics ship with launch, you can see them, they're just grayed out till you hit an ilvl appropiate.
"Where are all the players?" In the PVP area with Warmode off. Not there, PVP players are usually in Warmode so you won't see them.
I'd forgive a new player for not picking up on these things, but you're an experienced WoW and MMO player. These aren't new things/concepts.
Yea after this video I'll click on "don't recommend this channel". The amount of ignorance and just overall mood it feels like he never gave xpack the chance, idk I've enjoyed his content before but this is just sad
He does this with every MMO. It's easy content for him. I doubt he genuinely cares about any of the games he plays.
Wow the Activision blizzard bots are getting more human like.
Doesn’t matter the game is just ez mode brainrot content. Waste of time enjoy your fashion simulator
@@Lil_vara im sure you have some Hall of Fame Titles to show of if i ask for them right? cuz game is brain rot ez fkn clown
As a long time fan, dude, stick with other MMOs. This was the single worst "is is worth playing" u did for a long time.
unfortunately agree here too
Is your opinion based on that he didn't "review" it correctly? as in miss-informing?
He does the same shit with the others.
I play GW2 a lot and his GW2 video is exactly like this: no effort to actually understand the game, and then gets mad when something doesn't work.
@@bladerunner2006 you guys have no idea what "first impressions" means, do you?
@@Manhattan_Martythis isn't even a proper first impressions. Lol he skips reading anything at all. He didn't even read the things that explain the most basic devices. How can you have a first impression if you literally do nothing at all that is intended? First impressions would be do as the game directed you to do. This is a "I feel like I've played wow forever and can skip anything I want and still have a clue" . Not a first impressions.
Delves aren't exclusively solo content. You were just choosing to do them solo. You can do them with up to 5 ppl. Also the city probably seemed empty because most ppl are doing world events, farming rare mounts, or doing professions, all things you chose to skip over.
it literally says in game you can do them with a group too, it's just wild how Lazy this peon is.
Its probably because he plays from thailand and the timezone is totally different. Whenever I play Dornagal is packed
Tbh I’m enjoying the expansion but Dornogal feels pretty empty to me too. I think it’s cause it’s so spread out
stilll ass either way
Do you get more loot with people or just for the social aspect? World events, farming rare mounts, and doing professions are the same stuff wow has done before and the cities still felt full of people.
Disagree with you here mate, this is the best content wow has had for a very long time... Story is fantastic and lots to keep everyone busy
Like what?
The story is terrible, stop trying to make the expansion look good Blizzard employee/bot. It has the same terrible story every other expansion does with weird stilted delivery and le epic scene at the end where the bad guy talks smack, gets an artifact, destroyed, then curses you. No doubt we won't be able to finish them off until the last patch too.
@@Benisbucker People will learn this bit by bit, I did after diablo 4 and dragon's dogma 2. RUclipsrs can be sellouts af too etc. Just better to presume triple A games are bad until really proven otherwise with proper research of gameplay videos etc. In this case I think reading a few metacritic reviews will show the score of 3-4/10. If one neglect the one punch bots that gives score 10 etc.
Tell me you only play one game without telling me u only play one game lol
Story is fantastic, LMAO. Your standards must be very high.
Is this... Is this a joke? The whole video is so littered with mistakes it feels like he's not even trying. Some of the misinformation I can forgive as it may not be clear at first glance, but it seems like he isn't reading the 3 lines of explanation and then goes on to complain that he doesn't understand. 9th expansion? It's the 10th. Your Warband is your entire account, the favorite 4 are just the ones shown around the campfire on the character select screen. Delves aren't "solo", they CAN be played solo, so of course you're gonna feel more lonely if you decide to run them solo instead of with friends. I thnk hype/excitement around The War Within is a very subjective thing, like saying "none of my friends were talking about the launch" is valid and all, but as someone who played on both the early access launch and the "real" launch, there were plenty of people and plenty of excitement. Streamers returning, my friends list was full, guild was buzzing, and it was all good. But my experience is not everyone's, I recognize that. Not sure what was going on with him not seeing a lot of players, maybe it's a phasing+realm+time of day issue? Dornogal is quite full on my low-pop server anyway. But once again, that's very subjective and may vary greatly.
I think this whole video can be summarized by looking at 18:06. The guy has queued for a Comp Stomp, an Arathi Basin vs NPCs. The one with like 99% winrate because the bots are stupid and somewhat undergeared. And he's talking about how he loves the one-sided Arathi Basin matches. I think that tells you all you need to know if you need to know. If you don't plan on reading everything, even what is literally right next to the button you're about to press, then you might not have as good of a time.
What I am criticizing here isn't the whole "What's it like to play again in The War Within?" concept, I totally respect that not everyone plays WoW - and not everyone who returns will enjoy it. That's fair. But this is like watching this video and going "But who uploaded it? This was apparently made by a guy called Starforge Systems or something. Also, I am 7 minutes into the video and he hasn't told me if it's worth playing yet? 400 likes, seems like the least hyped video he has ever made."
So take this whole video with a grain of salt. It's clearly not a "Is it worth playing TWW as a returning player?" - it's a "Do I, TheLazyPeon, like TWW so far?" There are some valid criticisms, but again, it's hard to take them seriously when the next shot is of a guy bragging about how he's dominating a BG, not realizing he's playing against bots.
Yea I agree. I think this video was a total miss in my opinion. Lack of effort and understanding was very clear.
Think 17:54 says it all, he obviously has no interest in the game, and just needs to tick it of the list for content, which I get, but do some basic fact checks at least...
totally agreed
@@decyl_8878 he is addicted to OSRS and had 0 interest in playing and reviewing this game, it shows, just made the review to pay his bills which is so dissapointing
You should make sure you're right before going so hard on misinformation. Delves ARE Solo. You CAN play with friends, but only via premade. That's not the same as what you're saying. It's also much more reasonable that he wasn't aware of that given they were marketed heavily as a solo experience, which they primarily are, going in with friends is the optional part.
Also I don't know why people are getting hung up on any of this. Its a first impression, not a review and he clearly went in almost 100% blind which is entirely his choice. If anything is wrong its that the editor didn't put some clarifications up in post on anything said that was wrong.
Did you get to see the crystal change colors though? It's absolutely beautiful
Ban add-ons and improve the UI really means ban WA and DBM style add-ons and make the UI like ElvUi with bartender functionality etc... but if you do that you'll either have to nerf the hell out of the recent content or turn rating into even more of a niche. And good luck tracking modern numbers and complexity of cooldowns and debuffs in arena. Like it or not the game has been over-designed and calibrated for WA and DBM since Cata if not WotLK
@@Mike-ce2nk I didn't start using DBM until HFC. I stopped using WAs. With the UI integrating Bartender functionality, I don't use it anymore. I have a CD tracker for M+. I have addons for PvP. I use DBM and Details for raids. All other add-ons are my feel-good addons. And people are surprised at my UI lol. But I've gotten so used to them.
As someone who's jumping in after a long break after Shadowlands who never experienced Dragonflight + War Within, I'm quite enjoying it. Tons of quality of life stuff for new/returning players, solo options with delves, two flight styles now, alt friendly, it's not revolutionary but it's really solid MMORPG to jump into for just about anyone. I like it.
My primary game is Old School RuneScape but they announced the largest price increases ever to about $14/mo so I'm switching over to WoW now to try something new.
Yeah he has no idea what he's talking about. Guy fell off.
@@ignskeletons If you bitch about 14 bucks a month, you shouldnt be playing video games but get a fucking job, bum xD
You haven't - really- played the expansion, have you? A lot of the things that you say/guess in the video are simply not true.
How can you say that the story is bad when you don't read anything and skip everything? Atleast just say that you are not interested in the story
It’s crap LMFAO
The story is fucking dogshit. It's the same crap as Dragonflight and not improved in anyway. You'd have to be a Blizzard employee or a legitimate bot to think the writing in TWW is in any shape or form good. It's contrived slop with terrible stilted voice acting on top of it.
Yeah that stuff bugs the hell out of me. If you don't play the content, you don't get to judge it, ffs.
@@RockerBoy20045 lmao he literally played it, u fuckin clown
@@RockerBoy20045 lol stay mad wow fanboy
Guess you're living up to the name Lazy. You could have done some basic research before making a video with unfounded assumptions and just totally wrong information.
Well the game just isn't for him basically...i doubt it is all that exciting for non-WoW addicts anyway
@@dariciesglaciem3009 the game is for almost nobody, a very tiny amount of boomers who cannot let go of this pay2win garbage. 200k peak twitch viewers lmao.
you could also just read the title and not assume everything he says is true, it's a first impression, learn what that means kids
@@Angelvanberghen it's weapon grade cope from addicted retail boomers who think wow has any relevancy left to the point of everyone just knowing how all works
@@Angelvanberghen you could also not defend him like your life depends on it
breaking: burned out wow player doesn't find new wow content exciting, more at 8
breaking: salty wow players in the comments
Thanks for saving me time
@@TrepidFaceHuggerit’s not salt, it’s just how it is.
@@TrepidFaceHugger He's not salty. I came back several months before the end of DF and I find TWW unsatisfying if not disappointing so far, nothing about this expansion outside of some QoL changes seem appealing. Gameplay-wise, the Hero Talents are a cool concept but for some classes are crap, the Dark Ranger tree for Hunters being an example.
People who still play retail are perfectly okay with the game being stagnant, lifeless, and unfriendly to new players. Hell, they even pay extra money on top of their box price and sub fee to experience the same shit early over and over.
"This is the same criticism we've heard for 5 expansions, nothing surprising or new here."
Yeah, exactly, that's the fucking problem.
Delves are good for solo players for the loot as an alternative to mythic plus dungeons
too bad they feel like any other repeatable daily quest
They do which I don't like
Delves are solo content because there aren't enough players in this god awful game with terrible graphics still playing for there to be group content.
@@porthub3553god awful graphics? Are we watching the same video?
@@porthub3553Why are you watching WoW content if you hate WoW? Retail is very popular right now.
Solo content is great for the game because some people like avoid toxic players like yourself.
As a long time player, this really has been the best expansion in a while so far. The focus on narrative driven story and alt-friendlyness of leveling/gearing, its shaping up to be a really solid expansion, I just hope that raid and m+ tuning isn't super oppressive and the fight designs for raid are unique and fun.
I totally share your opinion
Bro its been out like a week? How do you know what the expansion is like?
@@Real-Ruby-Red it's relative to this point in other expansions lmao
It is okay.
Shame that the new features (Delves and Hero Talents - as a warlock) are bad.
Warbands are good though.
@@Real-Ruby-Red Beta have been playing since a long time and looks good also i really want to see the 20 anniversary event, it will be great!
Gratz on destroying those bots in arathi basin, massive achievement
Giving spoilers for Dalaran and Khadgar with no warning on a first impressions that a lot of people will watch to decide if they want to play, so won't have experienced yet was a REALLY shitty thing to do.
Yeah wtf , not even a single warning before the massive spoiler. Peon fcked up so bad
@@blitzball9915 Yeah and he's been making stuff on RUclips long enough to know better. Really poor.
Seems to be his flaw, he doesn't really pay attention or care about story in any mmos generally (Hence all his skipping and lack of like on ff14) so i guess for some reason it just doesn't occur to him the importance of spoiler warnings or smt.
@@Digitalgems9000 this is a very funny peon alt account
@@Eviltwin1 I does seem that way, but having been a professional MMO RUclipsr for years, you'd think he'd know better.
If you can't make a video about WoW without getting over 80% of your information wrong, maybe just stop talking about the game.
He didnt get anything wrong based on the information that was presented to him ingame.
@@BogzySamaAre you sure ? Because when something popped with Information or the npc got more to say he just chose to skip ... What do you want? A big widow telling you when you enter the first delve: " YOU MORON, YOU CAN QUE WITH PEOPLE ON THIS ONE" instead of reading what bran has to say ?
LMAO
MALDING
@@fushisaky What are you even saying? A system should not be explained through npc exposition and realistically its very easy to clarify things with a simple UI icon over a popup so if you can miss anything by skipping dialogue thats 100% a blizzard problem. Delves were marketed as solo, its not unreasonable at all for him to not be aware you can join with a premade group. If anything what you're saying is wrong since it implies you can just queue with others like a dungeon which is not the case.
Stop dickriding.
I’ve watched the lazy peon for 8+ years and this is by far the most disconnected video he has posted about WoW.
No hate to him directly, but it just seems he doesn’t enjoy the game anymore which is okay, but he shouldn’t be spreading misinformation on features of the game to his viewers as it will cause them to not even try out the new expansion.
Saying dragonflight was more encapsulating at the start of the xpac is the silliest thing he could have said. The game is much closer to its roots now and he clearly didn’t pay attention to any of the story as he didn’t mention it once in his video and skips all the dialogue screens.
I’ll have to completely and totally disagree on the leveling experience. I usually feel the same way and just rush to max level not caring for the story. This time it was different. I think if you gave the story the old college try, you’d be pleasantly surprised
I was listening to this in the background as I worked and I just found myself laughing so much! Especially during the spider zone. "Yeah, I'm sure I am welcome here. Welcome for dinner later on" Haha! Thanks for the laughs and the info.
I agree this is the least hype expac sofar, which is insane cause DF had like 0 hype. Sad they pulled this early access bs cause it just killed the hype for a kinda good expac
I've been really enjoying this expansion so far. Really nice to see Blizz stepping up their game story wise! The music and general atmosphere has been solid, and of course the gameplay just feels good. It's not the most mind blowing expansion, but generally speaking just feels like an improvement across the board. Hope they keep this up!
Actually this time the hype was really big. Haven’t you paid enough attention then 😁
First met this guy during mop he was streaming on twitch to a small audience and hosting a duel tournament on his feral. Crazy to see how far he's come. Just shows the key to anything in life is consistency.
How did you mess up the recording day 1 for the 2nd time? lmao
Quick instanced solo player content that rewards decent gear?.....Npc teammates in dungeons? ehhh. The slippery slope is literally undefeated in WoW. These are terrible changes for the game and will only make it worse down the line. Quick look at the forums and people are arguing that delves should give mythic raid level gear.....and the majority seems to agree. Yikes, no wonder they brought the older versions back.
Crazy, this expansion seems to be most hype since legion IMO.
Lazypeon made a lazy review of the expansion, dont listen to him.
i dont think Blizzard hyped it up much at all, which means it doesnt have to meet peoples super high expectations, its a great expansion and people are rating it highly
I didn't even know it was already released, I didn't see any hype.
@@steve81937 Well you must live under a rock then. 🙄
😂
I clicked for the nostalgia of watching these videos. But I havent touches wow in a few years and honestly my life is better for it.
The takes on this video were some of the worst Peon takes ever. War within has been some of the most refreshing Wow content in years. Delves are an absolute blast.
Absolute blast? 😂
Talk about exaggerating 😂
For returning players or concurrent players yes. For new players? No
This entire game just seems "standard" now. Nothing new to be excited about.
(And what's the issue with addons? Weird thing to be bothered by.)
because he is just lazy, addons are simple, and there is a whole manager system, and once you install an addon, all you gotta do is update it every so often with a click of the button. It's also not like you need 5000 addons to do high-end content, it's a few. This dude's content has gone down hill over the years. Living up to his name for sure.
The hate for addons is def unwarranted and taking away the freedom and user-control is the last thing we need in this day and age where its the norm for companies to micro-manage everything down to the basic graphical interface and not give the user any sort of control or flexibility in modifying it to their own personal likings.
I started playing WoW in WoD and the idea of addons was never confusing, nor overwhelming for me at all and I doubt it's that for others aswell since modding in general isn't exactly a foreign concept to PC gamers. And in WoW its just super easy as-well with just a simple addon manager. And I even gone as far now to learn LUA scripting and try to "rice" my WoW UI to make it something cool and make the game display information in a way it makes the most sense for me, which definitely has become one of my side WoW-hobbies.
Now I get the vast majority of players are not gonna be intressted in that and that too is perfectly fine. Even I myself for years pretty much never configured any of the addons I got and using their out of box settings and I still did all the mid-core content.
People don’t understand what first impressions means and it shows.
warbands, delves, the maven? seems familiar
Nice video. Good overview of the actual experience
TWW is pretty mediocre. The story is better than in the previous expansion although it misses the epicness of pre-BfA stories.
As a warlock I have to say, the class plays awful. There is no worse feeling than casting something below GCD. Also I have the feeling that my damage is so proc based that I have no control over it. Seems similar to other classes.
Delves are just boring beyond the 1st clear. Needing a key for the big chest is just stupid.
Some dungeons are a hit, some are a miss.
So yeah, I regret having bought the expansion.
You know you can get highest item lvl gear in delves if the season starts, sure you need some mechanic to unlock the gear progression thru that….
Hey, I'm going to Thailand soon for 6 months for work. I wanted to ask how it is with playing WoW on EU servers.
Is it playable with a higher ping or how does it look like here?
Def disagree with many opinions here. 1) hype is just fine, 2) cities are plenty busy with ppl, 3) delves awesome, Loving them.
Try Guild Wars 2 and see cities full of players
Nice to see the solo dungeons! That will be for me if I pick up this expansion.
Good preview, glad you are not a WOW fanboi
This is a terrible video. It’s okay if he doesn’t like the game anymore or the expansion. But half the information was just factually and objectively wrong. I’ve been a huge fan of Craig for years now, but it’s clear he is burnt out on WoW and has a lot of negative biases towards it. I’ve quit WoW and came back multiple times over the years, so I’m well aware of the games faults. But if you’re making a video, as arguably the biggest MMO channel on RUclips, he should be doing more than 10 minutes of research on the game. This video is straight up spreading misinformation.
Good preview
Turn on warmode dude. Way more people phased in war mode than normal. At least in my experience.
Unpopular opinion "I miss the month long leveling adventure. There is no grandness in the adventure anymore."
@@McC1oudv2 not really that unpopular, classic is right there. People just don't have time anymore. They go for RPGs for that experience, for group activities and the MMOrpg audience, who has time to wait/to dedicate themselves for months to kill a boss/raid?
that close up on Craig saying "oops" was perfect @6:32
Most fun I’ve had in wow since WoD. That said the dungeons and heroics have been snooze so far. The story and questing was great and a lot of nice updates. Just wish some of it wasn’t so watered down complexity wise.
What did Brian ever do to you? Leave the guy alone.
I mean...I def wouldn't call Dawnbreaker brain dead. Pugging might make you wish you were brain dead though lol
yep but thats cuz raid and m+ isnt out!
I agree that addons that directly intervene in game mechanics were never really good for the game..
But I still loved how pure artistic GUIs could individualize each of your characters.
Having an Arcane mage with an arcane themed GUI and when i skill to Fire it switches to fire was cool
And don't ask what stupid GUIs i had for my druid... :-X
Major criticism for this video is: The season hasn't started and you aren't able to play the end-game content like raids and M+, where most of the gameplay loop revolves around and what most people play for. This review is at least 1 month too early
Heroics are the endgame content right now hehe
Responding to the angry crowd here - I actually did read each MSQ quest and took my time. Isle of Dorm was decent story wise. Ringing deeps was terrible. Hollowfall is aesthetically and lore wise the best zone and the story was decent. The final zone the story is not very good.
The quality is very much all over the place. I’d rate the zones as Hollowfall, Isle of Dorn, Ringing Deeps, then Azhkahet.
Delves are terrible and are a slightly more repeatable version of Torghast.
The hero talents are fun. PvP seems like it’ll be great.
The expansion doesn’t make me want to do PvE again after I quit in SL.
Huh? 😂
Peon you are looking absolutely sculpted
Salty WoW fanboys flooding the comments repeatedly pointing out the same, very nominal, two mistakes Peon made in the video 🥺
Addons is actually a big reason why I love WoW. Drives me nuts when I try other MMOs and they either have no addon support or no one making the addons. Each to their own I guess.
Lol, you the guy who plays games with "Auto-Play" features, because you are too dumb xD
Blizz will never remove addons. That said they don't need to all they need to do is limit what the API can access. That would stop things like DBM being mandatory and limit how crazy weak auras can be which would also means they dont have to build mechanics around any of that and raids would be more fun.
ITT: coping retail wow players on why their expansion with record low sales and record low views online is actually good.
and the 4 characters that appear are just the ones you have favorited whatever number of characters you may have are still part of your warband sharing everything among em
*proceeds to skip all the cutscenes and doesn't listen to the *
"I wish they wouldn't do cutscenes and just send me to off kill things"
"standard story"
Dude, I don't know what to tell you.... you get what you put into it. Do you even know what the story was? Or is that just, like, your feelies? 🙄
"Launch failure" now means it wasn't hyped for you? I thought failed launches meant that servers crashed and there were endless bugs.
Your name really comes into play here, because it feels like you just "zug zugged" through this thing like a Lazy Peon.
There's definitely things to criticize the game for, but your perspective just feels like it's coming from that one friend you forced to play WoW and they really would just do something else. You spend more time putting care and attention to detail into a game that's nowhere near launching (Ashes of Creation).
F minus
Yup he failed hard on this one, falled flat down on his face. Such a doomer review.
Couldn't agreed more, what a shit video
are you mad that the game didn't grab his attention?
@@smorkx1286 I'm disappointed that he reviews it like a smooth brain. :)
@@smorkx1286 Lazy review from LAZYPEON, nice try with the bait comment though🙄💀
I remember nolifing the launch of tbc having a lan party with my mate, that level of excitement is yet to be matched...
@@bokelund9176 who has the TIME for something like that now days. :(
The few WoW players left are really salty in the comment section lol.
For any PvP enjoyers, there is now solo queue ranked battlegrounds in addition to the previously added ranked solo shuffle arena. This was what brought me back, I only play PvP games and this new expansion will hopefully drag me away from LoL for a while.
Yeah would be better for everyone if the addons were purged and things were just customizable in game similar to what they've done with the action bars.
@@talickk467 The only players that cope about addons are the trash one being mad other players can see how trash they are and wont carry their sad ass
Can a current player help me out? Can we use normal flying mounts to fly in current content or are they with holding normal flight?
a bit weird for the take in this video...
For a first impressions video, it's strange how you skip over the fact the storytelling in this expansion is clearly better and the side quests are also better in general. There are small features like the "stay a while & listen" which you can select and the characters will keep talking expanding the story further.
You could've also mentioned that apart from the making the game alt friendly this is the second expansion without systems meaning that blizzard was able to built on the already simpler game that was dragonflight.
Also, first impressions video and no hero talents? w/e
Last time I played was in 2014 it looks like it had a graphics update is it any good then game ?
"is it worth playing " ,all the vid is just skipping story and is not interested to go through so he can tell us how it was !
spolling story
Didnt even do research before putting the vid together,(warbands info, delve info, etc.)
if you are ignorant then why bother! just do what you love and stop making videos if your heart is not in it
Not gonna lie, if they included a decent native DPS/heals meter and proper functional raid UI that was healer friendly, I'd be over the moon about removing all addons as a blanket rule. I HATE the addon politics, and gatekeeping, and I would actually consider coming back to the game if they stopped that shite cold.
And OOOOOH An arachnid expansion... LOVELY for arachnophobes!! 🤦
Some people need to understand that not every player will inform themselves about every new feature/detail about a game before buying. A lot of players just see the trailer then buy and play.
The video is called "Is it worth playing?" I feel like that implies some minor fact checking is to be expected from the content creator.
But he is a reviewer content creator, he need to know what he is talking about to not spread misinformation, leading viewers to taking wrong conclusions.
@@benitezart7746 listen to 1 minute of the video and you SHOULD understand that it's not all facts, it really is that simple.
@@benitezart7746 tbf it's s also called "first impressions"
@@edivaldosantos8321 He's not just a reviewer, read the title, also first minute of the video said he didn't look anything up before playing, as how anyone should play new games/dlcs instead of looking up everything before even touching the game, that is just sad
Miss when wow was in early days. Felt like it was a real adventure
It's called nostalgia, that cant be reproduced to 100%... 50% maybe.
eh.. after reading some of the comments it's pretty obvious that it's a bunch of sweaty wow fanbois downvoting
the most surprising thing is that those still exist
Content creator gets 90% of his facts wrong
LOL SWEATY WOW FANBOYS
bro, what's wrong with you, seriously?
@@RockerBoy20045 More than some, not as much as others /shrug
To me the quality of life changes are the selling point. Sharing inventory and having a reagent bank helps with professions so much. I don't have to send all of my items through the mail to alts to create a self-sufficient profession chain. I can tell that content is gonna probably be the most fun of all.
LOL the retail andies all over the comments crying about a negative video of their precious game xD these fanboys live in fantasy world where no one is allowed to have a different opinion on their dying game. They only play wow so they think anything wow does is the best thing ever (they really need to try out other games) and they legit have no standards so they are fine paying $15 a month on subpar at best content
Btw retail fanboys, you wanna try and explain why blizzard once again hasn't released any sales figure for TWW? Oof, guess it sold even worse than DF, barely made any traction on twitch and a few QoL improvements don't change how generic and formulaic all the content has become, barely any new features in an expansion, delves are reskinned scenarios/open-world dungeons that have already become stale, pvp is a disaster, story is even worse than DF, hero classes are boring, early access bs ruined the launch and on and on with the issues.
Nah bro you're missing the point here, see Blizzard is actually pulling a 500 IQ move by releasing less and less content year after year, alienating the playerbase that actually have any standards. By doing this, the only people that remain are these wow white-knights who not only eat up any garbage Blizzard releases, they actually pay extra to play it 3 days earlier while endlessly defending the game without any complaint.
I bet (and quote me when it happens) after a while they'll get away with selling classic versions of modern day expansions at full price. Only difference likely gonna be, that now you can pay $50 extra to play a week earlier and $100 extra to have GPT-4.0 power the bots in your raid group instead of GPT-3.5
@@balazs787 lol ya I can see that happen, the ppl left playing retail literally have no standards at all and just eat up any and all the shit Blizzard shovel at them, then they go around defending blizzard and saying "omg retail is so gooooood!"
@@voidox Truly unfortunate what happened to retail too. They butchered the story, they killed off (both literally and figuratively) characters with DECADES of character development, haven't added anything meaningful to PvP or PVE for years. The art team was carrying them for a while, but since Shadowlands even that department feels uninspired to work anymore. Now they try to copy shit from PoE while doing absolutely zero research into why it was fun there...
It would take a team of people who are ALL fully passionate about the game with realistic deadlines to turn this ship around, ...but now with Microsoft at the wheel, I really can't see that ever happening.
@@balazs787 yup, Danuser and co. ruined the story from BFA, even legion had a lot of messy writing and the final patch was a complete waste of story/characters that should've been an entire expansion like Azshara and Nz'oth.
and even with Danuser gone, his writing team is still there and somehow the writing has gotten even worse. DF was as bad as SL and TWW is only slightly better, still awful. All the retcons and destruction of the Warcraft lore and IP people loved before BFA :/
then ya, from DF even the art team has gone down a lot in quality, disneyfying the visuals of the game and adding awful furry stuff like dragonkin and whatnot :/ As you say, they just copy-paste stuff now like look how uncreative and bad their take was on the actual emerald of dream zone... so bad.
basically the game has declined into the same shit over and over each patch just in new zones that now are boring maps. Even expansions are just big patches with barely more content than the basics of 3-4 new zones, new dungeons, new raid, das it. It's so lacking and formulaic now.
@@voidox Completely agree. Yeah, "disneyfying" is such a perfect way to put it. I couldn't believe how un-thematic Revendreth was for example, with complete lack of shadows and contrast. Even Ardenweald had more of a "dark zone" feeling
Are they just bringing this game back? Or was it even still active for a while? I’m asking bc I played the absolute heck out of this game as a young kid played until teenage years. It’s been atleast 12 yrs maybe
Yeah, Dornogal is very populated on EU servers.
Delves are awesome!
571 gear is also easy to obtain via delves and world quests, I haven't done any HC dungeons and I am ilvl 573 albeit I did upgrade my weapon to 593
Also, did you pay attention to the story at all?
You didn't talk about it.
Peon is not a story kinda guy (at least with MMOs).
Just wondering, how do you feel about addons. It really wasn't clear based on the video. :P
"loves some pvp, was hard to gear up at first" *playing against bots* lol
The modern WoW player base only cares about rushing as fast as possible to get to the end game crap and chooses to wholly ignore the importance of game design in terms of rewarding exploration, well integrated questing and, of course, actual leveling difficulty. Spamming 3 buttons in the same order against a scripted event boss at max level with bis gear is NOT fun (unless you also enjoy watching paint dry I suppose). The present Wow players only focus on reaching max level in a day, then complain further that the game is too hard 😅 No wonder Activision is like 'yea why bother, make leveling as unexciting and generic as possible noone cares anyway' 😂
"I think they should ban every UI except for the one that I like" So let's make sure that everyone has the same UI that he likes and ban everything else! What a stupid comment!
Yeah that comment actually pissed me off a bit. I haven't even played this game in so many years, but addons were a great addition that have only gotten better from what I've heard...
Peon is a bit of an autist who struggles with considering perspectives outside of his own very narrow one.
Need me to sift through pig shit to find your car keys. That was awesome I couldn’t stop laughing.
Thank you for an actual honest opinion, The toxic positivity is very strong in the gaming community.
Natural counter reaction to years of toxic negativity. Tbh most youtubers i follow aren't toxically positive. Belullar are a good example, they seem very positive about the expansion so far, but it doesn't feel like naive or stupid ie. "Toxic positivity".
He didn't have a single point this's coming from a guy that hasn't played wow over 6 years, you can't make a review of a game for the sake of parroting thing and not doing a single basic research about the game...
warband is all your caracters, that means other servers too, so warbound gear and gold can be transferred across server
Yeah man normally I love your vids but this one just... missed. There is a lot of hype around this expansion and a lot of people are just enjoying it. The storyline was good, the cutscenes were good and this expansion has some of the best level, music and class design in a very long time. Some of them, like Hallowfall, in the history of the game. End game has been fun, delves are great, the horizon seems solid at least for the next 6 months. I just feel ya had a bad take with this one. And that's fine! Just don't agree this time around on my end.
tbh even though it wasn't hyped I didn't care because I started playing few days later anyway, when it comes to gameplay I love new hero talents so leveling feels very good too and and it is very fun to play overall. lore was decent sometimes even compelling and much better than dragonflight in my opinion overall very good and decent wow expansion for wow enjoyers but nothing very new
lol I must be completely checked out because I didn't even know there was a new expansion
I was a big fan of WoW, played the WotLK expansion over years but then they slowly started to run out of new, catchy ideas, and the graphics have remained the same (which was good until - lets say - 2010). The battlegrounds were so good and entertaining - even if you played the same BG over and over again, it never got boring. I really liked Cataclysm too but what came after that, couldn't keep my attention that much. I tried Dragonflight, I enjoyed the first few days but then I got bored. I couldn't find a suitable guild that I can call "home". Everybody was just so cold, and selfish, and always in a rush - wanted their gear asap - social relations didn't mean anything anymore. The game changed, just like people.
Now I just prefer to play games with modern graphics like Throne and Liberty. Even if it gets boring after a month, and people are only tools, it's still gonna be much more enjoyable than this WoW expansion. I was frustrated and got a headache just by watching it. 😐
I completely agree with the 'least hyped expansion ever'; I completely forgot the expansion was releasing...
Me too 😭 it’s like i woke up one day and i suddenly saw a launch trailer like WHAT THE HELL ! WHEN ?
Nothing but WoW players coping in the comments lmao, glossing over the positives he gave and hyper fixating on the negatives he experienced.
it feels like the gameplay of wow has really stayed the same since pandaria until now and blizzard are too scared of trying to change the gameplay of being focused around just dungeons, raids, and pvp as endgame progression, so wow will sadly never be the best mmorpg
I never seen any announcements or recommended videos for this expansion release. I had to look it up because how little hype there seems to be. Dragon flight was huge. What happened?
Finally an honest no bullshit review
As someone that “enjoys” having 50 addons, I can honestly agree that banning all add-ons for everyone would make the game better.
Peon sounded more bored than anything else. WoW has truly fallen. Gonna pass. TY for the review and for saving my time.
If you're making your decision based on what this guy said in the video, just read all the other comments. This video was one of the worst he has ever done.
@@Bruno_Logan yeah, I'm starting to see that. TY for the correction.
Warbands made getting my alts up to gear cap ALOT easier and more time I can spend in raids with my closest friends
I managed to get my favorites up quick
Shaman (main) - resto
Rogue - combat
Mage - fire
paladin -holy (OP as hell)
The only add on I have installed is ElvUI lol
"If you are doing dungeons with NPCsand wipe, you are the problem and there is nobody else to blame"
You underestimate the average MMORPG players ability to shift blame
haha true, would probably blame the class or lag next 🤣
It's impossible for this to happen unless you are looking for a wipe so no.
@@TheLazyPeon laziest review youve ever done
My husband and I decided to come back for this one, we decided we'd "vanilla" it by doing every single side quest in each zone before moving on, we've been skipping most of the delves for now too. We hit 80 by the 3rd zone and we're enjoying playing together. I'll be honest though, I don't feel a pull to level up all the rest of my alts... we used to live in this game, but ever since Cata we've enjoyed and played each expansion less. Maybe 20 years is too long for one game. /shrug
I never comment on videos, but this one is a huge miss Peon. I have been a fan of your content for ages, and I still am. This is an entertaining video, but that is also a part of the issue. If I didn’t play the game right now myself, I wouldn’t play it based on your video. This would have meant I would have missed out on one of the most fun WoW experiences I’ve had in YEARS!!! Please, reassess the WoW expansion!
I think a lot of comments are a bit harsh, but it would be helpful to be more definitive in your conclusions. I've noticed the WoW community is the most toxic it's ever been in this expansion. The story was good, the cutscenes and "Stay Awhiles" were very good, you missed out if you skipped them, but I do agree it's just the same old formula Blizzard has been using for years. If you don't like grinding dungeons or crafting I don't think WoW is for you anymore. I finished the MSQ and I'm finding it hard to keep playing.
Plus, let's not forget, people are still recovering from Shadowlands so the bar is REALLY low...
Usually love your videos but this one wasn't it. How can you do a "Is it Worth Playing" video and every other sentence is "I don't know I didn't really pay attention"