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What’s the story of that sponsorship? How come a law firm focusing on personal injury contacted a rpdr review channel? Is that totally random or because of the US situation? Just curious, we don’t have law firm ads in my country.
@@Octobris while I do understand and agreed that this was the case with Camden as well; she still spoke English. I meant more of the Spanish speaking contestants on the show here in the United States that get casted.
Exactly. A lot of Raja's runway looks wasn't just drag, it was high fashion. Not only that, the way she presented her looks on the main stage by walking as if she was a super model is what helped and pushed her to the top. And my goodness, when she came back to All Stars she solidified her status as a fashion queen even more so. What she presented on All Stars wasn't just high fashion, they were very editorial looks. There maybe other DragRace queens who are considered as fashion queens but none of them can top Raja in that category. When it comes to DragRace, Raja hands down is the queen of fashion queens.
Yeah, i remember watching season 3 and never really being wow'ed by Manilla, except for her lip sync. Raja wow,ed me all the time. Her personality also felt more endearing
I feel like it’s worth mentioning that Peppermint basically had no chance going into the finale, because they eliminated her during the last challenge but filmed a take where all 4 make it and she thought she wasn’t going until the season was airing
I think something else that went into the Season 14 decision was that Willow is not an all stars candidate. She basically said on the season that this was her last hurrah before her body really gives up on her and she can't do what she wants to do anymore. Which is not to say that Willow doesn't deserve it, because she definitely does... but that they had to consider the future opportunities for the two as well.
honestly i know it was still super early in the show but season 3 truly should’ve been a double win, that top three alone of alexis, raja and manila was supreme
Yup when I watched Season 3, I could honestly say to myself “I would be happy if any of these queens won the crown.” And I really cannot think of any other Season that I felt that way.
@@aq2241984 I think it was anybody’s game besides Kameron. Aquaria is very fashion forward and has put her platform to good use. Asia would have been a great winner too.
If the only switch for the finale of Season 10 was a Top 3 of Asia, Aquaria, and Eureka, it definitely would have been very tight. Those butterflies man. >_< Maybe that's why Asia hasn't accepted invitations to All Stars. She may not feel ready to move on from the incident. Kind of like Shea dealing with being knocked out by rose petals.
What makes Yvie's and Willow's win so important is that they had a winner with a chronic disease. Something that made some things harder for them (Yvie not being able to dance, Willow sometimes having troubles grasping things like in this Amazon challenge). Also, maybe some are not "low energy", but more like introverts and not as loud as others. I do get that they are worried that they can't keep up with shows and interviews, but I'm here for introvert queens.
I think their chronic illnesses also definitely played a part in them getting crowned (not that they didn't deserve it anyway) because unlike their competitors, all stars may not have been an option for them. You could really see the difference between Yvie's performances in S12 and AS7, even though she was no less a fierce competitor.
As someone with chronic pain I found both of them so relatable and their specific brands of humor to be something that feels so specific to chronically I’ll people. I think people see these performers as invincible characters but in reality I think it’s so important that more light is shed on the reality that their performance quality is reliant on their health. Realism is so important with coping with illnesses and I think the humor and grace they both handled their issues with really helped me.
Bebe also was this international queen who used her drag to draw light on social issues. She came off a bit more elegant and classy which is nice to have as the first representation of a drag super star. I think it was more than her drag was just more palatable
Agree accept with season 8. I don’t think it was close. Bob crushed everyone that whole season it would have seemed rigged if he didn’t win. Same with Bianca.
Bob was the clear talent. But they loved Kim’s runways. I might be way outta pocket here but I think they did want to give it to Kim but they didn’t because Kim wasn’t out to her mom yet. Do you remember at the finale Ru offered to go with Kim and come out to her mom? And Kim said no. I can’t help but think that the show won’t crown anyone who hasn’t come out to their fam. But idk, what do I know.
@@stefanibaez9578yeah no. She’s already on the show being broadcasted all over. So no, it wouldn’t make a difference if they crowned her. Bob was just ahead and crushed the competition
The thing that really kept Kandy Muse from winning, in my mind, is that she had already effectively been eliminated that season (by Symone, no less). Double saves are one thing, but the Symone-Kandy result wasn't just that they said Symone's name first, so she won the lip-sync; Kandy was actually told to sashay away. After that, I sort of resented her presence for the rest of the season and she just wasn't in the running to win for me.
My other thing is that I feel she started to overstay her welcome in the fashion department, she basically got the same edit as vanjie on allstars where she should've gone earlier but was good for TV so they let her linger. Kandys runways just couldn't handle the competition and by the end u could tell she had no chance of winning because none of her runway package she brought with her could compete with the other finalists.
Also, there is no such thing as a "fillet" queen. Every queen has their art and is not lesser than anybody else on the show just because they fumbled in some challenges
i dont think its the production casting '' filler asian queens'' all of the time, sometimes yea, but also ru and michelle does not appreciate the asian queens most of the time if they are representing asian culture, they just dont get it. ru and michelle are old yall, they like what they like and they are obviously biased towards some types of drag so yea, they will always see the asian queens as the fillers, the runner ups, etc
I think I've posted this on another of your videos, but I'd love to see you do a breakdown of how Bianca was able to escape the "professional edit" on her season
Maybe because she was more "mean" and "funny" and "shady". Like Chad helped everyone else in the show, but it never was a big deal, the queens just appreciated it and valued her for that. In comparison Bianca always had funny back and forth's with the judges during deliberations, "had make up issues" with her strong eyeliner, and was "mean", more like straight to the point and tough love, to others, but had also a kind heart and helped people she liked, which made her wholesome in the end.
Honestly I don’t envy anyone who had to go up against Bob or Bianca. They’re both such charismatic, clever, talented, huge personalities that, and I remember this, people were calling it from the second either of them walked into the werk room, they were going to win.
Bob was absolutely a force and I like her a lot but in that season I was rooting for Kim. Seeing someone soft spoken and shy holding her own in a season with such HUGE personalities was so compelling. Her fashion was like nothing I had ever seen before. Don't get me wrong I think Bob absolutely earned her crown but I think Kim told a better story
I do personally think trixie won because of the after season media circuit. She's proven she's a great talking head and great in interviews where as Kennedy not as much
This and Kennedy was just UNLIKABLE on both of her seasons. First season she was a part of the old lady brigade, which the audience saw as bullies. And then she didn't redeem herself in all stars with her being petty, as well as having a "debbie downer/defeated" attitude. The audience would have burned WOW studio. Only reason she even had a chance at the crown is because they felt pity on her financial situation, Shangela burned too many bridges, and no one wanted Bebe to have another crown lol.
Interesting video! The only thing I’ll disagree with is Season One. As some one who watched it live, Bebe wasn’t seen as palatable AT ALL. Picking your first winner to be someone who didn’t grow up in America and was an immigrant got loads of complaints and was actually quite risky, loads of people said she wasn’t really American and shouldn’t be crowned. Bebe didn’t come to the states till she was an adult and people didn’t like that. Also, season 1 audience was very different, it was people who were used to drag and had been around it. None of us saw people like Ongina and Nina as breaking the box as we actually went to drag shows. I don’t think Nina lost because they weren’t worried she was too Avant Garde, if that was the case, she just wouldn’t have been casted It’s interesting to retrospectively view Bebe’s drag as very traditional but she was wearing big African inspired hair at a time where Black Drag Queens didn’t and wore wigs more like RuPaul.
I will say also that up until Symone's win (on one of the longest seasons ever lmao), no queen who was in the bottom more than once ever won - it was a kind of unspoken disqualification from being crowned.
SO GLAD you mentioned Yvie winning against Brooke in the lip sync. Anybody can say what they want about that entire season, but right there in that moment, Yvie 100% FOUGHT for that win
Honestly, Ginger not winning season 7 is the most bizarre one, like it was a glitch in the matrix Mandela effect kinda style. The season was 80% about acting or comedy or singing and she excelled in every single one of these… but then the fashion queen wins? It was weird, Violet deserved it but I felt like the season wasn’t designed for her to win.
Iirc didnt michelle pretty much outright say they wanted to crown a fashion queen for season 7 from the beginning because they wanted something different then up to that point? Pretty sure thats why miss fame was kept around the competition as long as she was too.
Violet and Jaida were the only ones who won by 100% pure talent, bc the clearly werent the favs from the producers or had the season designed for them to win.
I remember watching the end of season 8 and feeling so uncomfortable when Ru and the judges started pressuring Kim Chi into coming out to her parents. I think that was the key factor over improvement - Ru and wow wanted an emmy moment, and if Kim Chi went did something intensely personal and possibly dangerous (before she was ready) to give them one, the crown would have absolutely been hers. Her performances didn't improve the way Bobs runways did, but she gave a good enough show to have justified a win.
I came here to talk about the same thing but from a different perspective: even for a show that has been known to throw some queens to the fan base with a bad edit or shenanigans and let the queen take all the heat … can you imagine anyone hearing that Kim was not out to her parents and thinking “Let’s make her a global superstar and she can just deal with the potential of that being how her parents find out.” I can’t. A horrible thing to subject her to when she wasn’t ready. To say nothing of any pushback they might have envisioned from crowning a “closeted” person, from the fans or the wider LGBTQIA+ community or dog help us, the national media. So many ways for that to go sideways. Versus Bob who was getting arrested at marriage-equality demonstrations in NYC and has all that quick wit and “light up a room” personality. Kim is a powerhouse and a legend but it wasn’t her time.
Eek that makes me nervous. To improve in the way Kim had to improve is asking a lot … much more than runway usually would. Part of me still wants Kim recognised like a winner cause she’s as great a drag queen as Bob, though in a different way.
@@grampafitness9732 I think you put more thought into the emotional and PR damage than the production team did! It would have been a bit of a disaster - especially since Kim Chi wouldn't actually know she'd won until the rest of the world did. But honestly, I can imagine the show going through with something like that. They've put queens in danger (the amount of queens who had to either bow out or dance through horrible injuries is way too high) and some of the villain edits reached a point where I genuinely worried some of the queens might lose their life. Like, the Vixen got a horrible edit and lots of publicity around it during a time when an outspoken black drag queen would have ticked pretty much every box on some racist gun nuts target list. Afaik production didnt really do anything about the death threats she did get. And they seemed to weather their bad PR pretty well. Bob is one of my favourite winners and I think the s8 decision was the right one, but I'm still giving a heavy sideye to the production companies until they prove they care about the queens who make their show.
I honestly believe that Kim Chi's finale interview cost her the win. I was watching it and I remember thinking "she just lost the crown". You can kinda sense the crowd going "oh no she didn't" and RuPaul just stiffening her smile.
@@godzilla4005i might be wrong and confusing things so i accept responsibility if it's false but i think it had something to do with coming out to her mother which Run offers and Kim declined
While I don't think it plays a HUGE part in the crowning, I think it's also important to think how production compares potential winners to past winners. I think this mentality starts back in season 7. If we compare, say, Ginger Minj to both Bianca and Jinkx, all three are more comedy focused, classically styled drag queens, whereas Violet is an up and coming fashion queen. I think production wants to keep things different and changing between the seasons, and wants to avoid crowning similar queens. Season 8, Bob is nothing like Violet. Season 9 is an outlier, with the changes to the finale format, but if they were able to crown Shea like they wanted to, she would have been nothing like Bob. Aquaria as the winner for season 10 kind of falls back into place, as a queen who is newer with an eye for fashion, and as the 10th season, as a sort of "call back" of sorts, she has a relationship with a past winner. Yvie Oddly is very much the odd goofball who is nothing like Aquaria. I think Crystal could have won season 12, but would production have thought she was too much like Yvie. I think after season 12, this theory falls off, because Jaida and Symone are both fashion queens with comedy and performance chops, and Willow is a mixed bag as well. Of course, I say all of this not to discount the hard work of the winners, they obviously worked very hard to win their respective seasons. It's just a tinfoil hat theory haha
The theories definitely hold up, for sure. But I do think Jaida and Symone were different enough to warrant their wins, production-wise. Jaida had a much stronger pageantry aesthetic (and she made her own drag on top of that) while Symone had a very distinct LA style. BLM was also very much prominent during both their seasons--of course, I don't want to chalk it up to that, but I'm also really glad they both won, if only as a subtle show of support from Drag Race.
i love when queens reach that point of success where it'd be pulling them away from too much to compete again, ultimately i feel like that's what the show should be doing for its queens.
I still believe that Willow and Lady Camden should've been a double win (the whole season of keeping everyone and saying "everyone's a winner" felt like it was setting up a double win, and they had the money!)
While I can see your point, I feel like willow won the finale quite clearly. Also, candem is an amazing all star option while willow couldn't do another season.
Season 4's win *was* a cultural reset, despite the cringe that the winner has created since, and even though I adore Chad and Jaremi's work. Appreciate you pointing that out.
Looking at Season 15, where ANETRA was the runner-up to Sasha Colby, here’s my takeaway: It’d be easy to say Sasha won because she’s Sasha Colby, a famous name in the drag scene who’d done just about everything except win Drag Race by the time she was cast. But I think there’s more to it. Sasha came in with a strong statement about standing up for transgender rights and activism, was a congenial figure to everyone (who probably would’ve won Miss Congeniality too if finalists were even eligible for that), and in general had paid her dues with all the work she’d done up to that point. Plus, she did exceptionally in every challenge except one, so it seemingly made the most sense to give her the win. ANETRA, on the other hand; I think RuPaul may have thought needed more time to grow as a DA before she could represent the Drag Race brand. I think it was the same situation as Kameron Michaels, where she was a phenomenal performer on stage and is one of the best lip-syncers the show has ever seen (let’s be real, she won that three way lip-sync during the LaLaPaRuZa. I think she was kept because she was the only person who could’ve knocked JAX out in the end). But in the Work Room and in front of the cameras, she came off more quiet and reserved. And unlike Sasha, I don’t think ANETRA was as vocal and active about certain issues and could’ve stood for much in the community if she were to have won. So that’s my theory.
This is exactly how I feel. I went into the finale wanting Anetra to win, but knowing full well it was going to be Sasha. She is Sasha Colby and everything that comes with it, including her activism. She also was super easy to like and came off as kind and humble despite how huge she was in the drag world. She was also funny and goofy and didn't mind sacrificing looking pretty. Anetra was an incredible performer, but she didn't have the same confidence that Sasha had. I am just waiting for an All Stars to see Anetra again.
I think Brooklyns story going into the finale was that her and Yvie needed to have a rematch and there was this "whose going to come out on top" type of thing... They were ALWAYS going to have the two of them as the final lip synch after they saw the "sorry not sorry" finale
Watching Tyra’s season I never disliked her, she did super well and it didn’t seem like she intentionally fucked over anyone of those girls. Rewatch it. Also no Raven should not have won. I don’t get that narrative
When I think about Raven on her season I think about how she told Tatiana that she never said she was shit and then it proceeds to cut to her saying everything she did was shit 😭
Doing this with allstar seasons would be amazing considering how much more produced/staged those seasons are. Also, thumbs up for videos with your face in them ☺️
People who should have won: AS1: Raven. Lots of Chad+Shannel wins were undeserved. The last challenge was Rujubee's but they prefered old drag. Also, Yarlexis won the challenge where they had to earn points while on the street (they got the most points) but the win was for Chad+Shannel. AS2: Alaska. No other could have won it. AS3: Shangela. AS4: Manila or Trinity. If they wanted a double crown, why not Trinity and Monique? Monique did it better than Monet lol. AS5: Miz Cracker. She had the best track record and Shea only won because she lost to Sasha. AS6: Ra'Jah. No idea how Kylie won that season other than Rupaul cleaning his image of transphobia. AS7: Monet. Yes Jinkx demolished all season but the final lipsync's was Monet. Also, Shea should have won against Jinkx and Trinity against Monet but well.
4:45 completely disagree. Bebe Zahara was very much outside of the box. A black, dark skinned Queen, from Cameroon who reimagined drag from an African context. Bebe is the complete opposite of Rupaul, Bebe is unapologetically proud of her African roots!
With Raven losing it's also worth noting that Tyra's track record is still one of the BEST - no bottoms and so many wins. Her runways were also better and very innovative of the time so she earned that officially.
She deserved a bottom placement though, just got saved because the early seasons had an immunity clause. She won a challenge and did terrible the next week. Definitely would've ended up in the bottom.
@@Shane3125 everyone brings the immunity thing up as a counter point to Tyra's track record, but honestly if you look at the episodes and the people who were in the bottom 2 when she had immunity: Ep4 Snatch Game: Beyonce was not anywhere near the bottom 2 like Morgan and Sonique. Ep6 Rocker Chicks: Jujubee was blitzed on alcohol and Sahara wasn't entertaining, at least Ru loved Tyra's backbend even if Tyra couldn't sing well live And she was never really close to the bottom out of those episodes either.
I totally agree, like raven didn't deserve to win like I've seen so many people say. Tyra did the best, was she my favourite? No, but she was very clearly the winner!!
On Season 8: I think Naomi lost because she got the Pearl Low-Energy Look Queen edit. Kim Chi didn't win because she wasn't outspoken like Bob - she wasn't even out to her family! Bob has more 'star' quality, whereas Kim Chi doesn't even perform that much.
I think RuPaul had her heart tugged by Tyra’s story of being a single dad. Not that Tyra didn’t do well-she did. But RuPaul seemed to have a personal connection to her that was obvious to all of us watching at the time.
I wish you’d done a fun little speculative look at Season 15. Like “for each queen from Season 15, if they dont get the crown, here’s the reason it wouldn’t have been given to them.”
Doing this for AS seasons would be so different cuz it seems like a lot of those winners are based on “vindication” - not that any of them didn’t earn the crown persay, but there’s a lot more external factors behind the winner selection of AS
Courtney Act I think they wanted to shove into that villain box due to the success of seasons 4 and 5 but weren’t really able to since Courtney is just not that gal. She didn’t have any animosity towards Bianca or Adore and without a hero, you don’t really have a villain either. So instead they defaulted to Darianne’s weird edit to fill in that gap but instead of being a villain, she just comes off as oddly spiteful for no reason. That’s probably also why they cut Darianne before the finale (apparently they filmed different versions where all four go to the finale), she was supposed to be their villain but didn’t really end up filling that role and the person they pitched as her opposing hero in Dela was already out of the game by that point. I would love to see a version of Season 6 where the production of it all doesn’t get in the way of the actual events that transpired. The edits of Darianne and Courtney drag down the season for me a bit, they just don’t add anything to the show and kind of waste the viewer’s time.
Camden also has All Stars potential. I think (hope...!) production had already seen with Yvie the struggles a queen with a chronic illness goes through and knew there was a much higher chance of Camden being in fighting form again on a future season. (Not that Willow didn't 100% earn her win, but as someone with a chronically ill partner I was both overjoyed for her win AND relieved, for her health.) Would love to see you do the All Stars seasons!!
That’s a good point you made with Cameron. If your personality is chill you might as well not even apply for the show. You could be genuinely the best of the season in all categories and not win because your a relaxed chill kind of queen and they push you to change your personality to a louder bigger one the whole time your there. Then when you can’t do that because that’s fake and unrealistic to maintain as a chill person you don’t get the crown in the end.
Jaida did not crush the finale. She was the absolute worst in the second part of the finale. She did a boring dance while Gigi and Crystal did extremely creative videos. That's why instead of eliminating a girl at that stage, as promised, all three went to the lip sync finale instead. Gigi won the first part, Crystal the second, and Jaida the third.
Sorry but I have to disagree with the season 8 part when you say "kim chi and bob were very close to each other". At the time I was a kim chi stan (and I still am) but like as soon as Bob entered in the photoshoot with the past winner it was like "she is winning" and every episode this impression grew stronger and stronger. So I believe that kim chi and naomi and violet were like "let's overdress the best for the Bob the Drag Queen Coronation Episode"
I think Season 14 could’ve been the first regular double win, both queens devoured the season and kinda surprised the audience Willow was deemed a flop for like the first 15 minutes of episode 1, but Camden took a bit to get going. But after that warm up, Camden also killed the rest of the season
let's be clear : lady camden did NOT lost the final lipsync. i think that her crown falling with her hair was a great node to her freddy mercury runway. but that doesn't mean that she won it, willow and her were playing with each other, it could've been the most legitimate double crowning
Watching Season 3 I was (and still am) a full on Manila stan, was rooting for her from the start. My take is that the finale was really the determining factor- Raja's finale look, her "why should you win" speech, etc. really pushed her over the edge compared to Manila. Raja's finale performances felt more tailored to herself and what she brings to the table, while Manila's felt a bit more generic (but still amazing)
i don't know i just think production decided as soon as raja said she'd go on the show that she would be the winner. Manilla could have shot fire out of her eyeballs while raja just sat on a chair during that lip sync and i think they still would have crowned raja
I dont know if you watched the show at the time, but as a huge Violet stan since her meet the queens, I can easily say that the audience was NOT on her side, she receveid the same amount of likes and support in social media that Ginger received. The audience were heavy on Team Pearl. But I do agree with that Pearl lost bc of things thay you pointed out.
I hadn’t the feeling Ginger was portayed as a villan. That was kennedys edit unfortunately. I was surprised violet won because she wasn’t really relatable. As with season 8, it was very clear bob would win
LOVE seeing that vinyl of The Slow Rush in the background! Tame Impala are such a phenomenal act, I’ve seen them live. And The Slow Rush is one of my favorites by them!
I think you're wrong about Ginger. I never saw her as the villain in that way - it was a less clearcut storyline that that. I saw her and Kennedy as being overshadowed by annoying girls who didn't respect their elders. With Phi phi or roxxxy, we had no chance to doubt their villainous status.
PLEASE DO THIS FOR INTERNATIONAL AND ALL STARS!! I would looove to see the breakdown for the UK seasons (i will always have an essay for the top four of uk2😭)
With Season 16, and why Sapphira lost, I think there are a few factors. For one, Nymphia has a more unique brand and defined character, especially for the show and the winners it’s had in the past. Sapphira has a strong character and brand, but Nymphia’s is more iconic and unique to her. I think Sapphira, as was mentioned in the Rigged video, gives a very “mother” sort of character. One thing that hindered her too was Sasha Colby, someone who gave the same vibe, winning the season right before. They probably didn’t want to crown the same type winner twice in a row. One other thing about Sapphira is she doesn’t seem as good at flexibility and coming up with new and unique ideas on the spot when her initial ideas don’t pan out. During the makeover, her first dress idea didn’t work, and what she came up with as a backup wasn’t up to par. And then during the final lip-sync, she ran into problems with her intended gag, so all she presented was fragments of what that idea was with nothing to tie it together. Those are just my theories at least.
I really want to see this episode with international seasons, I would love to know some detail to know why Pythia lost to Icesis for example, because for me those two were both winners of CDR2
Icesis and Pythia are one of the strongest top twos from the entire franchise (sorry Kendall). To me Icesis felt like the main character of the whole season, even in episodes where she was in the bottom she dominated the narrative of the episode. Honestly I did think Pythia would win cause she had a stronger track record and we hadn't yet gotten a Quebecois winner (I mean it was still S2), but I think Icesis' prescence in the narrative and her great performance in the last 2 episodes (compared with Pythia doing ok) was what pushed her ahead.
Icesis was just more well rounded. and we all know how much Brooke values lip syncing as a skill a queen should have. and Pythia wasn't the best at lip syncing
@@skyco5395 that's true, but she actually did pretty good in the finale lip sync, she had a really good character for it with her being a statue coming to life (fitting with her outfit) I understand why Icesis one, but I would still like to see Drag Detective talk about it also, Icesis only wins were design challenges, so yeah she was well rounded, but honestly, Pythia was even more so in my opinion with her wins being in Rusical and the makeover, she was also high for Snatch Game and the ball, so her only strike was she wasn't the best lip syncer
I came from your recent all stars video. This video was more fan reception and story/edit based which I appreciated. Looking at season 15, Sasha was going to take that crown, no doubt. Anetra did very well, but I felt that she had room for improvement, so like your explanation for season 6, I feel that Sasha was peak-Sasha while Anetra still had room for growth. Season 16, my heart said Nymphia would win because based on past winners, Ru doesn’t crown the same “type” of queen twice. Sasha was seen as the polished mother figure and so was Sapphira, so I figured right there that the crown was Sapphira’s to lose. Nymphia was also easily marketable and had already established her brand. And if there’s one thing I’ve been hearing a bunch over the past year or so of the seasons of Drag Race I’ve watched, is that a queen having a point of view in their drag is what sets them apart from the rest (because the market is saturated now or whatever that person said). I look forward to seeing how season 17 turns out!
This is a great video and I agree with your comments. I would also like to add : 1. Willow Pill and Ivie had this chronic illness that won the hearts of many. It’s satisfying to see them win. 2. Kandy and Peppermint were never in the running for the top. S9 were Shea and Trinity, S13 were Rose and Gottmik. So in any case it’s hard to crown Peppermint and Kandy. 3. Eureka was a queen that had v negative image on S10 and Aquaria was just too good.
Gigi not caring about politics when the season was only excepting a specific political perspective is crazy. No wonder why civility is gone and people think those who don’t agree 100% with whatever narrative are evil. Just sad. Glad Jaida won :)
I thought a major reason behind Sharon’s win was the announcement of All Stars 1 From what I remember, a few weeks before the season 4 finale they (WOW/Logo) posted a poll to vote for a season 4 queen to be cast in AS1 (the winner of the poll would be cast), and that caused a bunch of people to really rally behind Sharon. But so many people rallied behind her, she ended up winning season 4. Again, that’s just what I remember hearing since I wasn’t really following the show then.
i wouldnt call it a major reason, its probably just a part of it. Have you rewatched season 4? sharon is obviously the standout, the first unique, freak and she did it all well. She had the charisma, yea also the fans behind her but it was obvious it was her moment, chad is good but she is just ''boring '' for the narrative its simple
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Yees.. it'd be fun to see you do this with international seasons. The us show has ton's of content and videos like this surrounding each season, but the international seasons don't get the same amount of attention.
For season 10 going in I think it was clear the show was only willing to crown Asia or Aquaria. They definitely had the most support from the queens and the audience. Asia reasonably could’ve won if not for the butterfly issue. Eureka’s story during the season didn’t feel like it was leading to be a winner. It felt like Eureka was kind of a villain and that her main storyline was to prove she had recovered .
No, I like Bob and they should be the winner, but the majority of those runways were awful, and they got a pass because of how funny they were. Look at the roller girl runway. 🫤
I think that Symone won too because of the simililarity with Rupaul, like some of the others, that rupaul saw something of her in then, like Willow and Yvie, and Jaida
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What’s the story of that sponsorship? How come a law firm focusing on personal injury contacted a rpdr review channel? Is that totally random or because of the US situation? Just curious, we don’t have law firm ads in my country.
@@JinMeowsoon i'm curious too like it's so random i've never seen it before 😂
@@JinMeowsoon maybe yo advertise as insurance to drag queens?
c'mon Morgan & Morgan!!!
@@apatouros7572 is she gonna claim from there ?
Let’s just accept that production will never allow a queen with a “language barrier” to be crowned.
The way it applies to Camden omg
@@Octobris while I do understand and agreed that this was the case with Camden as well; she still spoke English. I meant more of the Spanish speaking contestants on the show here in the United States that get casted.
And Kim Chi too!
Gisele won in Canada though! And what about the original winner Bebe?
@@marekvojtko1846on Canada’s drag race I don’t think it would count as a language barrier because French is also the national language of Canada lol
I think Raja’s high fashion aesthetic also helped give her the edge since the show was initially modeled similar to project runway / ANTM
Exactly. A lot of Raja's runway looks wasn't just drag, it was high fashion. Not only that, the way she presented her looks on the main stage by walking as if she was a super model is what helped and pushed her to the top. And my goodness, when she came back to All Stars she solidified her status as a fashion queen even more so. What she presented on All Stars wasn't just high fashion, they were very editorial looks. There maybe other DragRace queens who are considered as fashion queens but none of them can top Raja in that category. When it comes to DragRace, Raja hands down is the queen of fashion queens.
Yeah, i remember watching season 3 and never really being wow'ed by Manilla, except for her lip sync. Raja wow,ed me all the time. Her personality also felt more endearing
@@jermainecornelius7193 Ugh dont you just love her?? what an icon.
I feel like it’s worth mentioning that Peppermint basically had no chance going into the finale, because they eliminated her during the last challenge but filmed a take where all 4 make it and she thought she wasn’t going until the season was airing
I think something else that went into the Season 14 decision was that Willow is not an all stars candidate. She basically said on the season that this was her last hurrah before her body really gives up on her and she can't do what she wants to do anymore. Which is not to say that Willow doesn't deserve it, because she definitely does... but that they had to consider the future opportunities for the two as well.
Willow about to die so Ru wanted her to be happy
I knew Kim Chi wasn't going to win but her artistry was nothing short of amazing. Kim Chi was dealing with confidence issues
honestly i know it was still super early in the show but season 3 truly should’ve been a double win, that top three alone of alexis, raja and manila was supreme
Yup when I watched Season 3, I could honestly say to myself “I would be happy if any of these queens won the crown.” And I really cannot think of any other Season that I felt that way.
But how odd is that there are still no other winners from that season besides Raja?? Shangela, Manila, Alexis or Yara without crowns feels wrong.
@@marekvojtko1846 they were all snubbed REALLY hard
@@marekvojtko1846 shangela won all stars 3 tho so TWO of em have a crown
@@tovi3280 this is my fantasy
In my opinion, Madame Laqueer lost All Winners 2 over Yuhua Hamasaki because we needed our first Bootleg Superstar winner.
Huh? What did I miss?
@@ninaxwings a whole god dams season
I wanna see this universe
@@ninaxwingsyou missed the diy galaxy promo and the kleeky onkle 💔💔💔
What level of the iceberg is this?
Asia’s self sabotaged lip sync is still the craziest thing I’ve seen on a reality show. I really thought she was going to win the whole thing! 🦋
Pour one out for the butterflies 🫗
I legit think she would have won if she made the final round
That season belonged to Eureka or Asia. Crowning Aquaria was complete nonsense.
@@aq2241984 I think it was anybody’s game besides Kameron. Aquaria is very fashion forward and has put her platform to good use. Asia would have been a great winner too.
If the only switch for the finale of Season 10 was a Top 3 of Asia, Aquaria, and Eureka, it definitely would have been very tight. Those butterflies man. >_< Maybe that's why Asia hasn't accepted invitations to All Stars. She may not feel ready to move on from the incident. Kind of like Shea dealing with being knocked out by rose petals.
I feel like we should have a show of just runner-ups!!
I was thinking that too a few days ago! A lot of the runner ups/top 3 queens were stellar. I’d like to see a show where they battle it out.
And Raven would be 2nd 😭😭
Drag race uses them often, it's not necesary. A 1st out season would be 100% better and I would actually watch it
@@idkdc2615 YES!!! But what about Shangela and Vangie?
I want an all villains season!
What makes Yvie's and Willow's win so important is that they had a winner with a chronic disease. Something that made some things harder for them (Yvie not being able to dance, Willow sometimes having troubles grasping things like in this Amazon challenge).
Also, maybe some are not "low energy", but more like introverts and not as loud as others. I do get that they are worried that they can't keep up with shows and interviews, but I'm here for introvert queens.
I think their chronic illnesses also definitely played a part in them getting crowned (not that they didn't deserve it anyway) because unlike their competitors, all stars may not have been an option for them. You could really see the difference between Yvie's performances in S12 and AS7, even though she was no less a fierce competitor.
As someone with chronic pain I found both of them so relatable and their specific brands of humor to be something that feels so specific to chronically I’ll people. I think people see these performers as invincible characters but in reality I think it’s so important that more light is shed on the reality that their performance quality is reliant on their health. Realism is so important with coping with illnesses and I think the humor and grace they both handled their issues with really helped me.
Bebe also was this international queen who used her drag to draw light on social issues. She came off a bit more elegant and classy which is nice to have as the first representation of a drag super star. I think it was more than her drag was just more palatable
you just explained exactly what it was that made bebe palatable
@@sophlou2367 saying your drag is ‘palatable’ absolutely undermines the package that Bebe brought compared to nina
Camerooooooooooon!
Her finale gown lives in my head rent free.
Agree accept with season 8. I don’t think it was close. Bob crushed everyone that whole season it would have seemed rigged if he didn’t win. Same with Bianca.
‼️ I love Kim chi and Naomi !! But Bob made season 10
Imo Raja too was a clear winner
Bob was the clear talent. But they loved Kim’s runways. I might be way outta pocket here but I think they did want to give it to Kim but they didn’t because Kim wasn’t out to her mom yet. Do you remember at the finale Ru offered to go with Kim and come out to her mom? And Kim said no. I can’t help but think that the show won’t crown anyone who hasn’t come out to their fam. But idk, what do I know.
i feel as though that kim chi did well!! bob was amazing but kim chi was well up there yk
@@stefanibaez9578yeah no. She’s already on the show being broadcasted all over. So no, it wouldn’t make a difference if they crowned her. Bob was just ahead and crushed the competition
The thing that really kept Kandy Muse from winning, in my mind, is that she had already effectively been eliminated that season (by Symone, no less). Double saves are one thing, but the Symone-Kandy result wasn't just that they said Symone's name first, so she won the lip-sync; Kandy was actually told to sashay away. After that, I sort of resented her presence for the rest of the season and she just wasn't in the running to win for me.
My other thing is that I feel she started to overstay her welcome in the fashion department, she basically got the same edit as vanjie on allstars where she should've gone earlier but was good for TV so they let her linger. Kandys runways just couldn't handle the competition and by the end u could tell she had no chance of winning because none of her runway package she brought with her could compete with the other finalists.
still insane to me she made it that far
Drag detective needs to investigate why there hasn’t been an Asian winner since S3 and why production keeps casting early out / filler Asian queens
So, give the crown to an Asian queen even if they don't deserve it? Can't think of a single queen who deserved to win after season 3.
Also, there is no such thing as a "fillet" queen. Every queen has their art and is not lesser than anybody else on the show just because they fumbled in some challenges
@@Shane3125 no shit that’s literally what I SAID that production keeps casting filler Asian queens
@@Shane3125 funny how the affirmative action measures are always employed for black queens though
i dont think its the production casting '' filler asian queens'' all of the time, sometimes yea, but also ru and michelle does not appreciate the asian queens most of the time if they are representing asian culture, they just dont get it. ru and michelle are old yall, they like what they like and they are obviously biased towards some types of drag so yea, they will always see the asian queens as the fillers, the runner ups, etc
I think I've posted this on another of your videos, but I'd love to see you do a breakdown of how Bianca was able to escape the "professional edit" on her season
I'd love to see this!!
what’s the professional edit?
@@yourgirljuls he exaplains it when he’s talking about Chad in season 4
@@macias9 got it! i wasn’t that far in the vid when i commented 😹😹
Maybe because she was more "mean" and "funny" and "shady". Like Chad helped everyone else in the show, but it never was a big deal, the queens just appreciated it and valued her for that. In comparison Bianca always had funny back and forth's with the judges during deliberations, "had make up issues" with her strong eyeliner, and was "mean", more like straight to the point and tough love, to others, but had also a kind heart and helped people she liked, which made her wholesome in the end.
Honestly I don’t envy anyone who had to go up against Bob or Bianca. They’re both such charismatic, clever, talented, huge personalities that, and I remember this, people were calling it from the second either of them walked into the werk room, they were going to win.
Bob was absolutely a force and I like her a lot but in that season I was rooting for Kim. Seeing someone soft spoken and shy holding her own in a season with such HUGE personalities was so compelling. Her fashion was like nothing I had ever seen before. Don't get me wrong I think Bob absolutely earned her crown but I think Kim told a better story
I do personally think trixie won because of the after season media circuit. She's proven she's a great talking head and great in interviews where as Kennedy not as much
Kennedy winning the season over Trixie, Shangela, Bebe and Dela wouldn't have made absolutely no sense
@@RNCHFND shangela bebe and dela, sure but kennedy absolutely could’ve won over trixie and it make sense
@@fruitloops64 eh. Not really due to what the original comment said.
@S S Sorry, this isn't my first language
This and Kennedy was just UNLIKABLE on both of her seasons. First season she was a part of the old lady brigade, which the audience saw as bullies. And then she didn't redeem herself in all stars with her being petty, as well as having a "debbie downer/defeated" attitude. The audience would have burned WOW studio.
Only reason she even had a chance at the crown is because they felt pity on her financial situation, Shangela burned too many bridges, and no one wanted Bebe to have another crown lol.
Interesting video! The only thing I’ll disagree with is Season One. As some one who watched it live, Bebe wasn’t seen as palatable AT ALL. Picking your first winner to be someone who didn’t grow up in America and was an immigrant got loads of complaints and was actually quite risky, loads of people said she wasn’t really American and shouldn’t be crowned. Bebe didn’t come to the states till she was an adult and people didn’t like that. Also, season 1 audience was very different, it was people who were used to drag and had been around it. None of us saw people like Ongina and Nina as breaking the box as we actually went to drag shows. I don’t think Nina lost because they weren’t worried she was too Avant Garde, if that was the case, she just wouldn’t have been casted
It’s interesting to retrospectively view Bebe’s drag as very traditional but she was wearing big African inspired hair at a time where Black Drag Queens didn’t and wore wigs more like RuPaul.
This isn’t a critique btw, just adding context!
Very this is very true. I think it’s a real misunderstand of what society was like in 2009 to think of Bebe as ‘palatable’ lol
Tyra was much more what Black Drag looked like, Bebe was very different
I will say also that up until Symone's win (on one of the longest seasons ever lmao), no queen who was in the bottom more than once ever won - it was a kind of unspoken disqualification from being crowned.
SO GLAD you mentioned Yvie winning against Brooke in the lip sync. Anybody can say what they want about that entire season, but right there in that moment, Yvie 100% FOUGHT for that win
Nah. Brooke fought for that win too much to the point that it looked desperate. Yvie was just chilling and looking majestic
WHY HER MIRRORS WERE DIRTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@@Nutelaa13 maybe cuzz she performing
Lol like Brooke didnt kill that too. You all sound so dumb only giving one side credit.
@dyannthaphannthom8811 this just sounds completely idiotic. "Fought too much." Shut the hell up.
Honestly, Ginger not winning season 7 is the most bizarre one, like it was a glitch in the matrix Mandela effect kinda style. The season was 80% about acting or comedy or singing and she excelled in every single one of these… but then the fashion queen wins? It was weird, Violet deserved it but I felt like the season wasn’t designed for her to win.
And that’s why she won. She exceeded expectations in a season not made for her
he got the villain edit that is why she did not win
it's worth checking out their video essay on this season, because it's interesting to see the new school vs old storyline in more depth :)
Iirc didnt michelle pretty much outright say they wanted to crown a fashion queen for season 7 from the beginning because they wanted something different then up to that point? Pretty sure thats why miss fame was kept around the competition as long as she was too.
Violet and Jaida were the only ones who won by 100% pure talent, bc the clearly werent the favs from the producers or had the season designed for them to win.
I remember watching the end of season 8 and feeling so uncomfortable when Ru and the judges started pressuring Kim Chi into coming out to her parents. I think that was the key factor over improvement - Ru and wow wanted an emmy moment, and if Kim Chi went did something intensely personal and possibly dangerous (before she was ready) to give them one, the crown would have absolutely been hers. Her performances didn't improve the way Bobs runways did, but she gave a good enough show to have justified a win.
I came here to talk about the same thing but from a different perspective: even for a show that has been known to throw some queens to the fan base with a bad edit or shenanigans and let the queen take all the heat … can you imagine anyone hearing that Kim was not out to her parents and thinking “Let’s make her a global superstar and she can just deal with the potential of that being how her parents find out.” I can’t. A horrible thing to subject her to when she wasn’t ready.
To say nothing of any pushback they might have envisioned from crowning a “closeted” person, from the fans or the wider LGBTQIA+ community or dog help us, the national media. So many ways for that to go sideways. Versus Bob who was getting arrested at marriage-equality demonstrations in NYC and has all that quick wit and “light up a room” personality.
Kim is a powerhouse and a legend but it wasn’t her time.
Eek that makes me nervous. To improve in the way Kim had to improve is asking a lot … much more than runway usually would.
Part of me still wants Kim recognised like a winner cause she’s as great a drag queen as Bob, though in a different way.
@@grampafitness9732 I think you put more thought into the emotional and PR damage than the production team did! It would have been a bit of a disaster - especially since Kim Chi wouldn't actually know she'd won until the rest of the world did.
But honestly, I can imagine the show going through with something like that. They've put queens in danger (the amount of queens who had to either bow out or dance through horrible injuries is way too high) and some of the villain edits reached a point where I genuinely worried some of the queens might lose their life. Like, the Vixen got a horrible edit and lots of publicity around it during a time when an outspoken black drag queen would have ticked pretty much every box on some racist gun nuts target list. Afaik production didnt really do anything about the death threats she did get. And they seemed to weather their bad PR pretty well.
Bob is one of my favourite winners and I think the s8 decision was the right one, but I'm still giving a heavy sideye to the production companies until they prove they care about the queens who make their show.
@@shawnbay2211 She's a booked and busy businesswoman so she's won in her own way - and on her own terms!
I believe 100% there was no way Bob was not getting that crown.
I honestly believe that Kim Chi's finale interview cost her the win. I was watching it and I remember thinking "she just lost the crown". You can kinda sense the crowd going "oh no she didn't" and RuPaul just stiffening her smile.
Why? What did she do/say?
Honestly, avoiding such a exploitative moment was the right choice in every timeline
@@godzilla4005i might be wrong and confusing things so i accept responsibility if it's false but i think it had something to do with coming out to her mother which Run offers and Kim declined
While I don't think it plays a HUGE part in the crowning, I think it's also important to think how production compares potential winners to past winners. I think this mentality starts back in season 7. If we compare, say, Ginger Minj to both Bianca and Jinkx, all three are more comedy focused, classically styled drag queens, whereas Violet is an up and coming fashion queen. I think production wants to keep things different and changing between the seasons, and wants to avoid crowning similar queens. Season 8, Bob is nothing like Violet. Season 9 is an outlier, with the changes to the finale format, but if they were able to crown Shea like they wanted to, she would have been nothing like Bob. Aquaria as the winner for season 10 kind of falls back into place, as a queen who is newer with an eye for fashion, and as the 10th season, as a sort of "call back" of sorts, she has a relationship with a past winner. Yvie Oddly is very much the odd goofball who is nothing like Aquaria. I think Crystal could have won season 12, but would production have thought she was too much like Yvie. I think after season 12, this theory falls off, because Jaida and Symone are both fashion queens with comedy and performance chops, and Willow is a mixed bag as well. Of course, I say all of this not to discount the hard work of the winners, they obviously worked very hard to win their respective seasons. It's just a tinfoil hat theory haha
The theories definitely hold up, for sure. But I do think Jaida and Symone were different enough to warrant their wins, production-wise. Jaida had a much stronger pageantry aesthetic (and she made her own drag on top of that) while Symone had a very distinct LA style. BLM was also very much prominent during both their seasons--of course, I don't want to chalk it up to that, but I'm also really glad they both won, if only as a subtle show of support from Drag Race.
Look at Kim Chi now with her successful self. That shows you that you don't always need to win to be successful in life.
i love when queens reach that point of success where it'd be pulling them away from too much to compete again, ultimately i feel like that's what the show should be doing for its queens.
Even Bianca said in an interview that they edited Courtney to seem like a bitch but she was truly a sweet lady.
I still believe that Willow and Lady Camden should've been a double win (the whole season of keeping everyone and saying "everyone's a winner" felt like it was setting up a double win, and they had the money!)
While I can see your point, I feel like willow won the finale quite clearly. Also, candem is an amazing all star option while willow couldn't do another season.
Season 4's win *was* a cultural reset, despite the cringe that the winner has created since, and even though I adore Chad and Jaremi's work. Appreciate you pointing that out.
Appreciate the face to the videos too :3 more on camera please
Drag Detective: “Race…” (4:58)
Peppermint: “RACE?!”
OH SO ITS A RACE WAR
STOP 😆
But is it fashion?
boss makes a dollar, i make a dime, that’s why i watch drag detective videos on company time (i clicked so fast)
Somewhere in a parallel universe, honey mahogany and vivienne pinay both won season 5
i dont buy that not even in a million alternate universes
😂
Matching Kaftan gowns done by Marco Marco
Looking at Season 15, where ANETRA was the runner-up to Sasha Colby, here’s my takeaway:
It’d be easy to say Sasha won because she’s Sasha Colby, a famous name in the drag scene who’d done just about everything except win Drag Race by the time she was cast. But I think there’s more to it. Sasha came in with a strong statement about standing up for transgender rights and activism, was a congenial figure to everyone (who probably would’ve won Miss Congeniality too if finalists were even eligible for that), and in general had paid her dues with all the work she’d done up to that point. Plus, she did exceptionally in every challenge except one, so it seemingly made the most sense to give her the win.
ANETRA, on the other hand; I think RuPaul may have thought needed more time to grow as a DA before she could represent the Drag Race brand. I think it was the same situation as Kameron Michaels, where she was a phenomenal performer on stage and is one of the best lip-syncers the show has ever seen (let’s be real, she won that three way lip-sync during the LaLaPaRuZa. I think she was kept because she was the only person who could’ve knocked JAX out in the end). But in the Work Room and in front of the cameras, she came off more quiet and reserved. And unlike Sasha, I don’t think ANETRA was as vocal and active about certain issues and could’ve stood for much in the community if she were to have won. So that’s my theory.
This is exactly how I feel. I went into the finale wanting Anetra to win, but knowing full well it was going to be Sasha. She is Sasha Colby and everything that comes with it, including her activism. She also was super easy to like and came off as kind and humble despite how huge she was in the drag world. She was also funny and goofy and didn't mind sacrificing looking pretty. Anetra was an incredible performer, but she didn't have the same confidence that Sasha had. I am just waiting for an All Stars to see Anetra again.
i wanted a double win so bad
Tyra might be a problematic Queen but she deserved that s2 win based on track record.
Not that I disagree, but they've made track records meaningless when Yvie and Willow win.
@@Shane3125 yeah cuz its all about lipsyncs now. I liked the old format better
Agree I actually loved trya in that season
I think Brooklyns story going into the finale was that her and Yvie needed to have a rematch and there was this "whose going to come out on top" type of thing... They were ALWAYS going to have the two of them as the final lip synch after they saw the "sorry not sorry" finale
Watching Tyra’s season I never disliked her, she did super well and it didn’t seem like she intentionally fucked over anyone of those girls. Rewatch it. Also no Raven should not have won. I don’t get that narrative
I will always defend King Trya's winning season 2.
All of this! He had one episode where he annoyed everyone and got into with ppl and they act like it was every episode.
When I think about Raven on her season I think about how she told Tatiana that she never said she was shit and then it proceeds to cut to her saying everything she did was shit 😭
@@Sharkyyo_o not gonna lie that was iconic editing by the producers and they deserved their flowers for it 😂
@@anthonysothern-avery3531 we stan the shading editors. We need more of those editors.
Doing this with allstar seasons would be amazing considering how much more produced/staged those seasons are.
Also, thumbs up for videos with your face in them ☺️
People who should have won:
AS1: Raven. Lots of Chad+Shannel wins were undeserved. The last challenge was Rujubee's but they prefered old drag. Also, Yarlexis won the challenge where they had to earn points while on the street (they got the most points) but the win was for Chad+Shannel.
AS2: Alaska. No other could have won it.
AS3: Shangela.
AS4: Manila or Trinity. If they wanted a double crown, why not Trinity and Monique? Monique did it better than Monet lol.
AS5: Miz Cracker. She had the best track record and Shea only won because she lost to Sasha.
AS6: Ra'Jah. No idea how Kylie won that season other than Rupaul cleaning his image of transphobia.
AS7: Monet. Yes Jinkx demolished all season but the final lipsync's was Monet. Also, Shea should have won against Jinkx and Trinity against Monet but well.
@@Koshrocreations yesss to all of this!!!!
4:45 completely disagree. Bebe Zahara was very much outside of the box. A black, dark skinned Queen, from Cameroon who reimagined drag from an African context. Bebe is the complete opposite of Rupaul, Bebe is unapologetically proud of her African roots!
I would love a version of this with the international seasons because I want to hear your thoughts on Elektra Bionic 💀
With Raven losing it's also worth noting that Tyra's track record is still one of the BEST - no bottoms and so many wins. Her runways were also better and very innovative of the time so she earned that officially.
She deserved a bottom placement though, just got saved because the early seasons had an immunity clause. She won a challenge and did terrible the next week. Definitely would've ended up in the bottom.
@@Shane3125 Perhaps so BUT we can't speculate on maybes
@@Shane3125 everyone brings the immunity thing up as a counter point to Tyra's track record, but honestly if you look at the episodes and the people who were in the bottom 2 when she had immunity:
Ep4 Snatch Game: Beyonce was not anywhere near the bottom 2 like Morgan and Sonique.
Ep6 Rocker Chicks: Jujubee was blitzed on alcohol and Sahara wasn't entertaining, at least Ru loved Tyra's backbend even if Tyra couldn't sing well live
And she was never really close to the bottom out of those episodes either.
I totally agree, like raven didn't deserve to win like I've seen so many people say. Tyra did the best, was she my favourite? No, but she was very clearly the winner!!
On Season 8: I think Naomi lost because she got the Pearl Low-Energy Look Queen edit. Kim Chi didn't win because she wasn't outspoken like Bob - she wasn't even out to her family! Bob has more 'star' quality, whereas Kim Chi doesn't even perform that much.
I think RuPaul had her heart tugged by Tyra’s story of being a single dad. Not that Tyra didn’t do well-she did. But RuPaul seemed to have a personal connection to her that was obvious to all of us watching at the time.
But Ru had an actual relationship with Raven
@@Smielyb2000I think that was after the season was aired though
@@stinameaner it was before the show
I wish you’d done a fun little speculative look at Season 15. Like “for each queen from Season 15, if they dont get the crown, here’s the reason it wouldn’t have been given to them.”
I think it might be between Anetra and Sasha if we're going based off of these recurrent edit trends, but we'll see! :D
Well guess what mimi
“I hate people” is why Willow got that crown. Still my favorite drag race performance by far.
When people are annoying me it pops into my head and stays stuck for hours lol
I love that she didn’t made an obvious reference to her journey in the show. She created this new song and sold it to me
It was the outfit too for me. All of her heads looked beautiful.
Doing this for AS seasons would be so different cuz it seems like a lot of those winners are based on “vindication” - not that any of them didn’t earn the crown persay, but there’s a lot more external factors behind the winner selection of AS
Courtney Act I think they wanted to shove into that villain box due to the success of seasons 4 and 5 but weren’t really able to since Courtney is just not that gal. She didn’t have any animosity towards Bianca or Adore and without a hero, you don’t really have a villain either. So instead they defaulted to Darianne’s weird edit to fill in that gap but instead of being a villain, she just comes off as oddly spiteful for no reason. That’s probably also why they cut Darianne before the finale (apparently they filmed different versions where all four go to the finale), she was supposed to be their villain but didn’t really end up filling that role and the person they pitched as her opposing hero in Dela was already out of the game by that point. I would love to see a version of Season 6 where the production of it all doesn’t get in the way of the actual events that transpired. The edits of Darianne and Courtney drag down the season for me a bit, they just don’t add anything to the show and kind of waste the viewer’s time.
season 6 narrative is extremely forced, i agree.
I think bianca was the villain of season 6. They showed her as that older snob professional. Yet they crowned her and we love that.
I think it’s all about fan reception. It’s been so obvious who will win. Gigi is the only one who fumbled it.
please do this with all stars and international this was so entertaining ❤️❤️
Camden also has All Stars potential. I think (hope...!) production had already seen with Yvie the struggles a queen with a chronic illness goes through and knew there was a much higher chance of Camden being in fighting form again on a future season. (Not that Willow didn't 100% earn her win, but as someone with a chronically ill partner I was both overjoyed for her win AND relieved, for her health.)
Would love to see you do the All Stars seasons!!
That’s a good point you made with Cameron. If your personality is chill you might as well not even apply for the show. You could be genuinely the best of the season in all categories and not win because your a relaxed chill kind of queen and they push you to change your personality to a louder bigger one the whole time your there. Then when you can’t do that because that’s fake and unrealistic to maintain as a chill person you don’t get the crown in the end.
100 agree. Introverts are done dirty on that show if I was a drag queen I would never apply purley for that reason
you should totally do a video discussing how you think they decide the lineup for queens entering the workroom
Jaida did not crush the finale. She was the absolute worst in the second part of the finale. She did a boring dance while Gigi and Crystal did extremely creative videos. That's why instead of eliminating a girl at that stage, as promised, all three went to the lip sync finale instead. Gigi won the first part, Crystal the second, and Jaida the third.
Sorry but I have to disagree with the season 8 part when you say "kim chi and bob were very close to each other". At the time I was a kim chi stan (and I still am) but like as soon as Bob entered in the photoshoot with the past winner it was like "she is winning" and every episode this impression grew stronger and stronger. So I believe that kim chi and naomi and violet were like "let's overdress the best for the Bob the Drag Queen Coronation Episode"
I have said it a bunch of times if season 1 took place around season 10 time Nina would have won.
I love her and her music. It’s always good to get on the treadmill to
Would love to see this with Canada & UK’s runner ups! (And any international seasons really)
I think Season 14 could’ve been the first regular double win, both queens devoured the season and kinda surprised the audience
Willow was deemed a flop for like the first 15 minutes of episode 1, but Camden took a bit to get going. But after that warm up, Camden also killed the rest of the season
If I had judged this season both of them would have been tied with a 3.8(3) PPE score so I have agree❤
Season 3 deserves Double Win 😊
Omg, Derick! Can we talk how astonishing you look? I looooooved your outfit! I’ll surely try something like this
awh thank you!!
let's be clear : lady camden did NOT lost the final lipsync. i think that her crown falling with her hair was a great node to her freddy mercury runway. but that doesn't mean that she won it, willow and her were playing with each other, it could've been the most legitimate double crowning
It’s so good to see you speaking! I’ve been listening to you for a long time, but seeing your face takes your good content to another level 👏🏻
Bob was also involved in almost every storyline/drama so it has to be narratively wise
Watching Season 3 I was (and still am) a full on Manila stan, was rooting for her from the start. My take is that the finale was really the determining factor- Raja's finale look, her "why should you win" speech, etc. really pushed her over the edge compared to Manila. Raja's finale performances felt more tailored to herself and what she brings to the table, while Manila's felt a bit more generic (but still amazing)
i don't know i just think production decided as soon as raja said she'd go on the show that she would be the winner. Manilla could have shot fire out of her eyeballs while raja just sat on a chair during that lip sync and i think they still would have crowned raja
Raja was winning the minute she walked through the door.
It's midnight, but I spend time to watch this rather than sleeping 😂😂😂 Now the runners-up are very intriguing to be covered. Great content as always😊
Tyra winning fair and square lol and literally leaving no point of doubt, Iconic. To all of the messy “fans” who say she didn’t deserve it, cope. Xo 💋
preech!
PREACH
Period. While she fumbled in the Singing challenge, she earned her win. No one should discredit her.
I dont know if you watched the show at the time, but as a huge Violet stan since her meet the queens, I can easily say that the audience was NOT on her side, she receveid the same amount of likes and support in social media that Ginger received. The audience were heavy on Team Pearl. But I do agree with that Pearl lost bc of things thay you pointed out.
The drama with RuPaul also didn't help her out.
I hadn’t the feeling Ginger was portayed as a villan. That was kennedys edit unfortunately. I was surprised violet won because she wasn’t really relatable. As with season 8, it was very clear bob would win
LOVE seeing that vinyl of The Slow Rush in the background! Tame Impala are such a phenomenal act, I’ve seen them live. And The Slow Rush is one of my favorites by them!
You know that Tame Impala is just one guy right?
i can’t believe i watched the whole thing like i usually can’t stand Drag race youtubers but this was GOOD 😭😭
I think you're wrong about Ginger. I never saw her as the villain in that way - it was a less clearcut storyline that that. I saw her and Kennedy as being overshadowed by annoying girls who didn't respect their elders. With Phi phi or roxxxy, we had no chance to doubt their villainous status.
It’s not necessarily about how you feel as a single person though, this is about the fan base’s perception overall
"annoying girls who didn't respect their elders" more like old queens who are bitter about younger queens overshadowing them
Spot on analysis. 😊 I would enjoy seeing this done for other seasons and franchises, yes, yes.
For some reason I fully thought Ms. Fame made the finale of s7 and not pearl. Just fully retconned the last few episodes internally.
Im gonna be honest, i never saw Ginger as a villian, i saw her more like a comedy queen. I saw more Bianca in her than i did Roxxxy.
PLEASE DO THIS FOR INTERNATIONAL AND ALL STARS!! I would looove to see the breakdown for the UK seasons (i will always have an essay for the top four of uk2😭)
PLEASE TELL ME WE ARE GETTING AN ALL STARS VERSION TOO
I absolutely loved all stars with jaida I’m so happy she got her real moment. I love her so much she’s so cute
With Season 16, and why Sapphira lost, I think there are a few factors.
For one, Nymphia has a more unique brand and defined character, especially for the show and the winners it’s had in the past. Sapphira has a strong character and brand, but Nymphia’s is more iconic and unique to her.
I think Sapphira, as was mentioned in the Rigged video, gives a very “mother” sort of character. One thing that hindered her too was Sasha Colby, someone who gave the same vibe, winning the season right before. They probably didn’t want to crown the same type winner twice in a row.
One other thing about Sapphira is she doesn’t seem as good at flexibility and coming up with new and unique ideas on the spot when her initial ideas don’t pan out. During the makeover, her first dress idea didn’t work, and what she came up with as a backup wasn’t up to par. And then during the final lip-sync, she ran into problems with her intended gag, so all she presented was fragments of what that idea was with nothing to tie it together.
Those are just my theories at least.
This content is terrific! Props to you mama!
Side note: Your shirt is my FAVORITE movie of all time!!! You are my new favorite youtuber! 😁
I really want to see this episode with international seasons, I would love to know some detail to know why Pythia lost to Icesis for example, because for me those two were both winners of CDR2
Agreed! Tbh Pythia is my favorite Canada's Drag Race queen so far
Icesis and Pythia are one of the strongest top twos from the entire franchise (sorry Kendall). To me Icesis felt like the main character of the whole season, even in episodes where she was in the bottom she dominated the narrative of the episode. Honestly I did think Pythia would win cause she had a stronger track record and we hadn't yet gotten a Quebecois winner (I mean it was still S2), but I think Icesis' prescence in the narrative and her great performance in the last 2 episodes (compared with Pythia doing ok) was what pushed her ahead.
Icesis was just more well rounded. and we all know how much Brooke values lip syncing as a skill a queen should have. and Pythia wasn't the best at lip syncing
@@skyco5395 that's true, but she actually did pretty good in the finale lip sync, she had a really good character for it with her being a statue coming to life (fitting with her outfit)
I understand why Icesis one, but I would still like to see Drag Detective talk about it
also, Icesis only wins were design challenges, so yeah she was well rounded, but honestly, Pythia was even more so in my opinion with her wins being in Rusical and the makeover, she was also high for Snatch Game and the ball, so her only strike was she wasn't the best lip syncer
Like Cheddar Gorgeous and Danny Beard 👀👀👀👀
I came from your recent all stars video. This video was more fan reception and story/edit based which I appreciated. Looking at season 15, Sasha was going to take that crown, no doubt. Anetra did very well, but I felt that she had room for improvement, so like your explanation for season 6, I feel that Sasha was peak-Sasha while Anetra still had room for growth. Season 16, my heart said Nymphia would win because based on past winners, Ru doesn’t crown the same “type” of queen twice. Sasha was seen as the polished mother figure and so was Sapphira, so I figured right there that the crown was Sapphira’s to lose. Nymphia was also easily marketable and had already established her brand. And if there’s one thing I’ve been hearing a bunch over the past year or so of the seasons of Drag Race I’ve watched, is that a queen having a point of view in their drag is what sets them apart from the rest (because the market is saturated now or whatever that person said).
I look forward to seeing how season 17 turns out!
i thought shannel from season 1 was the first to get that professional polished edit.
I’m loving seeing your face while you talk! It lets me connect more with you and the content
This is a great video and I agree with your comments. I would also like to add :
1. Willow Pill and Ivie had this chronic illness that won the hearts of many. It’s satisfying to see them win.
2. Kandy and Peppermint were never in the running for the top. S9 were Shea and Trinity, S13 were Rose and Gottmik. So in any case it’s hard to crown Peppermint and Kandy.
3. Eureka was a queen that had v negative image on S10 and Aquaria was just too good.
1. It wasn't really satisfying to win when Brooke and Lady Camden were more deserving, especially Camden.
Gigi not caring about politics when the season was only excepting a specific political perspective is crazy. No wonder why civility is gone and people think those who don’t agree 100% with whatever narrative are evil. Just sad.
Glad Jaida won :)
I thought a major reason behind Sharon’s win was the announcement of All Stars 1
From what I remember, a few weeks before the season 4 finale they (WOW/Logo) posted a poll to vote for a season 4 queen to be cast in AS1 (the winner of the poll would be cast), and that caused a bunch of people to really rally behind Sharon. But so many people rallied behind her, she ended up winning season 4. Again, that’s just what I remember hearing since I wasn’t really following the show then.
i wouldnt call it a major reason, its probably just a part of it. Have you rewatched season 4? sharon is obviously the standout, the first unique, freak and she did it all well. She had the charisma, yea also the fans behind her but it was obvious it was her moment, chad is good but she is just ''boring '' for the narrative its simple
Wow, this is really well-written and well-thought out! I had to subscribe after watching this video. Sorry if I sound like a bot. I promise I'm real haha
Yees.. it'd be fun to see you do this with international seasons. The us show has ton's of content and videos like this surrounding each season, but the international seasons don't get the same amount of attention.
Dude, you're good..! You have each of the seasons analysed down to a T. Great job! Great video!
The way you refuse to name Sharon Needles is killing me a bit 💀
So enjoyable. One of the smartest Drag Race analysis I've seen. Great job!
I`d love to see the videos about international seasons! There is a lot to discuss
Loved the video! Please do it with international seasons and AS !!
For season 10 going in I think it was clear the show was only willing to crown Asia or Aquaria. They definitely had the most support from the queens and the audience. Asia reasonably could’ve won if not for the butterfly issue. Eureka’s story during the season didn’t feel like it was leading to be a winner. It felt like Eureka was kind of a villain and that her main storyline was to prove she had recovered .
Yaaas please do your take on the runner ups for AS and International seasons 🙌
Love to see you on camera 🥳
Bob is the most deserving winner of all time.
No, I like Bob and they should be the winner, but the majority of those runways were awful, and they got a pass because of how funny they were. Look at the roller girl runway. 🫤
@@greyblake761 excuse me, that robot look was the most high fashion runway to ever grace the main stage of RuPaul’s Drag Race.
@@greyblake761 well that time it was an acting challenge
the thing about season 10 is that i think they really wanted asia in that final lipsync, but the butterfly incident was too absurd to overlook
I think that Symone won too because of the simililarity with Rupaul, like some of the others, that rupaul saw something of her in then, like Willow and Yvie, and Jaida
Symone gave me a little RuPaul Jr. with a twist. I think for Ru it was like seeing a younger version of herself.
Like both the new filming setup and the on camera appearances!
YES MORE MORE MORE!!!!!
I really liked the concept of this video! I would love to hear more about international queens!
This was an interesting video!! I'd love to see an All-Stars version :)
yes, please do an all stars version! I wanna know what you think :)
and noo face on camera is wonderful!! loved the videooo