2005 Dodge Magnum with an HHO generator installed, now i'm getting 30 MPG, not 16MPG...MOV
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I installed a 5 plate generator that i made myself, for my 2005 Dodge Magnum, before this instalation i was getting about 16 MPG, now with this generator installed, i just took a 100 mile trip, went to the gas station and filled it up, it took only 3.2 gallans of gas, i don't have an amp guage or anything else, the generator does not run hot, and i made no modifycations to the car, it looks like i could go almost double the miles with this unit installed, thats like paying $1.50 per gallon of gas, i'm gonna try to imrpove this unit, but i'm very happy with it, just the way it is...
I made a 19 plate dry cell. Installed it on my 93 f-150. I did get 3 to 4 mpg better at first then it went down to lower than normal. That was ducting right into the air box. After seeing how you did yours I tried that. Now consistently getting 4 to 4.5 mpg better. I don't believe my 302 has the map sensor, at least I cant find one. Still learning like everyone else on here. Keep posting and don't worry about trolls. If they have time to write negative comments they are just lazy bastards.
All these HHO generators look fascinating. The fuel economy reports are almost unbelievable. I know a guy who put one in his car and it worked for a short time until the O2 sensors made the fuel mix go rich and the guy lost all that economy. How do you make it work in spite of the factory-programmed fuel mixture?
You need an EFIE (Electronic Fuel Injector Enhancer)...look it up on Google, you need to wire it into your O2 sensors and trick the computer into a rich mixture, so the computer will lean out the fuel. Its not hard to install, plenty of videos on how to install a EFIE.
Joe Mumbach there are also O2 stand-offs that back the sensor out of the exhaust just a little bit so that it doesn't read the excess air/oxygen.
Or you just buy a system that separates the oxygen and the hydrogen and only inject the hydrogen into your car. When you buy those kits you don't have to worry about the auction sensors picking up extra oxygen in the exhaust and making your car run rich instead the car will actually run a smidge leaner giving you better fuel mileage even further
its not only the O2 sensor, but the catalytic convertor as well, it gets hot glowing when running on lean AFR due to O2 excess in exhaust.
That sensor on the intake hose is the IAT Intake Air Temperature sensor. It tells the computer the temp of the air flowing through the intake and it adjusts the fuel trim (ie. Richer for colder temps and leaner for hotter temps).
Well done sir! I’m honored to be part of the HHO Family.
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That setup only lasts for a limited time. Running fuel, in your intake, will confuse the computer. You get great mileage for a time. Then your mileage will decrease about 10ish mpg. A little later, it will go down further until eventually it's close to what your vehicle can do without supplemental fuel. Oh, and your check engine light will illuminate. Unless your vehicle is tuned for the supplemental fuel, that is added to the intake, it will not be able to run correctly. The only way you can achieve better mileage is running the supplemental fuel into the fuel injection system as a duel fuel setup.
I'd love to see details of the build tooo... or link to plans. great job.
Great stuff. Have you done updates? I'm so glad to see people doing what's right and good despite the opposition of the ignorant
Did you wire it up to the alternator, could you please do a little video about the wiring and whether you use a pulse regulator to prevent the unit from heating up etcetera. thank you
so many comments, the sensors are not the problems it is the epa software program that mandates the computer to have 14.5 part air to 1 part fuel. When the HHO goes into the engine it burns 1000 times faster than gas and 1200 times faster than diesel . So you will not have the normal 60% FUEL IN YOUR TAILPIPE/CAT-CONVERTER TO BURN. BASED ON 18 TO 24% EFF. AND 15% HEAT LOSS. yOU WILL HAVE OXYGEN AND LITTLE TO NO FUEL IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF HHO. So your sensors tell the computer to dump fuel in to get the 14.5 to 1 ratio.
Effies just adjust the sensors signal to the computer so it does not dump as much fuel.
Map is 10 to 15 % down then the computer thinks it is in the Rocky Mtns and leans out the fuel.
Iatc you add 4 to 8 volts and it will move closer to top dead center and it rid of the knock and give you about 10% or more savings.
could tell you hours more. But .... I have 14 lt semies saving 35%
5.9 cummings going from 19mpg to 29 ( over 85 so far)
Most get around 35 to 80% if done right.
There are mechanics with a full tuner geting up to 80% better mpg. But the tuner is 200 bucks.
His generator is not eff. because he has current leakage around the plates. I build one that is 185% eff. and can run a semi on 22amps. When my new part is made and out of China will be able to do a 14 lt on 13 amps 225% eff.Have fun if you can find me I have the good stuff
I'd believe this post more "if" you shared more details on your HHO system that you have installed that is capable of essentially doubling the highway mileage advertised for the car. Otherwise this seems total cow dung. Modern electronics on the Magnum will defeat any HHO system installed unless you have the EFIE installed. This video didn't show that.
Just drive normal, everything adjusts itself, this is very easy and simple to do...
Do you have a PDF of your build? Looks clean
My oxygen is now set at 1.95 volts,can't go over 2.10 volts will trip the check engine light.My map enhancer is now set to 1.3 ohms(was at 1.8,1st test) on the lean side.My tire pressure set to 36 lbs in all 4.I did my 1st 100 test on a windy(not cool)day,drove into a 35 mile NW(for 58 miles)head,at the half point I notice that 1 cell was(20 amps)on,flip the 2nd on and finish my return trip.117 miles round trip,took on 3.894 gallons at 30.046 miles per gallon
Hi there, thank you for sharing your mpg. I did something similar for my 2001 gmc jimmy. But now I have found a better way to make more bubbles than what i was getting. I will try it later today but I wanted you to know about it. go to PROTOTYPE9000 channel on RUclips. His videos are years old but what caught my eye is two stainless steel pipe clamps he used in tap water. No electrolyte. Compared to my machine if I got 20 bubbles per second, his would be about 2000. Its awesome I can't wait to try it. The one i did only gave me 1 mpg more. Thanks again for sharing.
"Experts", Please read this:
If you bother to study at all you will notice that the question of energy balance, between Hydrogen energy and energy from the battery, is one very big misconception. The energy does not come from the Hydrogen and does not come from the battery or the alternator! The energy comes from the gasoline when an on board hho generator is installed.
That's what NASA, the U.S. Patent Office and the U.S. Department of Transportation have known for decades:
A SMALL amount of supplemental Hydrogen will cause the regular fuel, be it diesel or gasoline, to burn more completely. The extra energy is derived from the more complete combustion process. Less waste = extra energy.
It's not "free energy".
But adding HHO gas to a combustion engine gives the extra mileage from LESS WASTE. It's not an opinion, it is the scientific viewpoint.
So you are saying the HHO just makes your engine more efficient? why don't all car manufacturers do this?
why dont u directly run it fully on hho generator.?
No, can;t, i'd need a bigger alternator...and bigger wires...
Save som real money by buying a car with a smaller engine
How's about an update? Mpg condition of vehicles?
it realizes? Efies change the information that the ECU receives from the o2 sensors so it runs at its normal states even with hydrogen added. IT does not notice that a HHO ssytem is under the hood and say HEY! no improved fuel economy for you MR.
I lost two batteries because of HHO generators drawing electricity from battery. 2nd problem is air/fuel mixture ratio. If we increase inflow fuel, then engine needs more air to run lean. Unless we install an automatic adjustment of air/fuel ratio with computer software or flashing BCM to 1/17 ratio; otherwise we can only improve about 0-22% on highway AIR depending on car's cpu.
Look at CNG gas conversion kit.
Battery isolator, wire, switch, HHO canister, steel plates, corn air filter, throttle body adapter, air/fuel ratio device; etc plus time and effort cost not much better than an octane buster can but get same result. Is that make sense to you all.
I was just trying to say the same thing .
come on dude, that is a 3.5L engine which definitely gets more than 16 mpg. it will get 21 mpg in the city all day long, and high 20's easily on the interstate
I Have 3.6 l Jeep Cherokee Laredo I get 7.7 mph ....wtf
He claims to get 31.25.. thats a huge improvement over 16, or 21.
Actually he has the 2.7L V6.
2005 Dodge Magnum
Mid-size car
4.5/5 · Kelley Blue Book
Curb weight: 3,847 to 4,393 lbs
Transmission: 4 & 5-speed automatic
MPG: Up to 21 city / 28 highway
Horsepower: 190 to 340 hp
Wheel size: 17-18″ diameter, 7-7.5″ width
Engine: 2.7 L V6, 3.5 L V6, 5.7 L V8
I need to install one in my car.
Go ahead and let us know how it works out for you
That's awesome!! Why aren't the three US automakers using this technology??? Hey I see moisture in the line shouldn't you use a inline water filter / separator ??
They killed a man who invented this years ago and tried to sell it. They do not want people to know, nor does the oil companies
One of the cleanest installs I’ve seen online
Well done. Could you please answer some of my following queries:
1. For how many months have you been using it?
2. Did you make it yourself or bought it ?
3. What the saving percentage in terms of fuel consumption?
4. Any maintenance issue?
5. R you using tap water ?
Well, I'm will waiting any answer with you. Thanks to guru or owner this clip in advance for response this comment.
i have the same exact magnum besides the color. Same engine and I get 21 mpg without hho ...
He claims to get 31.25.. thats a huge improvement over 16, or 21.
Ok, I am a skeptic here but please prove me wrong. I understand your HHO installation however I do not understand how you are getting 30 mpg. You did add a new system but you have not technically changed anything in the car for example: how the fuel is being injected into the engine. I am assuming this is a stock car and you have not physically manipulated anything but rather just put add a HHO generator on it. Great video but I would like some explanation.
I want one.
how much can does it cost for the material, If I pay you will you send it to
me and talk me threw installing it. I'm on SSDI due to Parkinson. This will help probably could figure out all the parts and half way figure out how to install it, just not that 100% secure in my auto repair work. I have worked on my over the past few years. I had to because I have no money for car repair. Also, I have a old Gas farm tractor that I use on the Farm. will this work on it.
Why the HELL do people buy big FUGLY cars that suck fuel.. And then try to improve the fuel milage???
+Mad Benco And you're doing here what?
+luka nuic Was that English?
I don't, I'm gonna do this to my civic to get 60mpg
+Ramana Maharshi anything smaller than a HUGE POS.
This is 100% polyunsaturated b.s......SERIOUSLY MAN YOU ARE THE REASON THAT PEOPLE THINK THESE ARE WORTHLESS. THEY CAN BE CALIBRATED AND OPTIMIZED WITH THE ENGINE TO SAVE MONEY. THIS ISNT THE WAY......HE IS LYING.
the best way to connect the HOO system direct to the PCV valve inlet in the intake manifold with a T connector to connect back the PCV pipe in it again mixing with HOO it will work more than the air intake hole before the MAF sensor. Do not install HOO kit in the AIR INTAKE it is more way better install it in PCV VALVE inlet in the intake manifold where the by removing the pipe from the intake manifold and install it with a T connector
Urea has a lower breakdown voltage which would result in more hho generation. Update video?
So your cars computer didn’t mind? I’m wonder about my 2012 ford if it will just make the fuel mix more rich because it will be confused.
what a judgments were made to the ECU, Im told that controls fuel intake and air, also that If I wanted to run HHO only, i'd have to remove the ECU....
Its hard to take anyone too seriously that drives a Dodge, they have never made a vehicle worth buying and would be out of business if it werent for inbreeding. I forgot these magnums existed, like the neon after 3 years you'd see them paint peeling primer exposed and sounding sick.
Hi, Good stuff !
Did you use stainless steel plates ? or wire coiled ?
Tx. Good Luck with the others !
Did you not get problems with your DME thinking your engine was running too lean? with the extra oxygen in the exhaust?
Think about the volume of air in the combusting chamber with and without hho gas. Without hho, its normal working condition. With hho, the amount of air will be lesser, it means running too rich, too much fuel, not too lean which is too much air. Its just a theory, im not sure lol. Hydrogen lighter than all of the gases.
I'd like to send you a better picture of a dry cell system HHO USA and get a dry cell kit produces more hydrogen it came with everything I needed to hook it up relays and everything the wiring and everything it needed and her dry cells and they put two bars of pressure out instead of that instead of a half a bar of that right there that produces less hydrogen then a dry cell would I've already done all the research I actually made a dry cell and a wet cell in my ex-brother-in-law stolej and sold it for scrap metal
HI there !
Just wanted to thank you for a grate video. Jus wanted to ask you if you can do another video to show how did you assemble the HHo on Dodge 55. I have a classic car running on dual webber which i would like to add the HHO .Thanx
I makig my 1.3 16 valve hho workes!!! Im from hungary
Awesome, the author did not respond to one comment in 2 years ???
no need to insert into carburator , just make a hole in air filter pipe and insert the gas line into it....
You know using dry cells you would have a lot better electrolysis a lot more efficient more hydrogen production in oxygen production in a wet cell you lose a lot of electricity in a wet cell I've done both and prefer the dry cell and the production is higher and the dry cell
Do you have to make any upgrades to the sensors?
Great video blog, most people say that it only works on carburetor type engines. Could you make a follow up video showing the amount of water consumed by the hho generator while you make a road trip and showing gas consumption. Thank you. By the way, you have a new suscriber!
I was thinking of using pvc pipe , I will for sure now, im installing on a lexus rx300
Hay friend. Am sei ande México DF hao mach esquiusmi for may inglés
can you tell us a long term update, did you continue using the hho, what was the long term outcome?
why 20 amp fuse in particular?
great job, I also insert in at the intake, just above the throttle body. the sensor might be the MAV . Manifold Area Vacume. I went in just past it, but above the throttle body. I have a 2007 F150 crew cab. A 5.4 liter engine. Used 2 6 plate dry cells. Produces about 3.5 liter a min. Fuel miliage was 16 mpg on hwy. Now 28 mpg ! Yes you will save money. HHO has not done anything bad to motor!!! It just saves you money
i have a jeep liberty, i ran the output hho hose before the air filter , does it make a difference to place like in thi video, just before de airintake valve ? didnt want to puncture the hose.
@@jarochodamanmilo does it improve your mpg?
I wish to do this but I’m worried the computer will add fuel, I have an impala with a v6
Boa tarde gostei da informação 👍.
Anybody still using hho generators in 2022?
I have a 2005 dodge magnum sxt 3.5 liter . stock I get around 25 mpg . I think there is something wrong with your car.
r ramsey clearly you're talking about highway miles... stock mpg is 17-21 city.
Any updates available ?
Scam, i did with bmw e38 740i and lost 5% of mpg.
Best to not make videos about it..just do it..as the gov will take it away and make it illegal
My trip to KY yesterday, i was getting 42 MPG...
Tony, are you still using this on your car? How are the long term affects ?
If what you say is true about the 16 miles per gallon then American cars do about half the gas milage that the same models do in UK. I think it is the PCV valve you are required to have that messes up the efficiency of the engine, because here we don't have that valve and we get twice as much milage per gallon.
2005 Dodge Magnum
Mid-size car
Curb weight: 4,393 lbs
Transmission: 4 & 5-speed automatic
MPG: Up to 21 city / 28 highway (not far from 30mpg)
Horsepower: 340 hp
Wheel size: 17-18″ diameter, 7-7.5″ width
Engine: 5.7 L V8
Details instructions please on next video
that engine is going to overheat unless you reinstall all the sheet metal that was originally attached to the engine. The wheel with paddles on the top is a fan and uses the sheetmetal to direct a volume of air arround the walls and head of the cylender. that is what is called aircooled. what you did is like removing the radiator from a water cooled engine,
I tried to build One Years Ago but Was Unsuccessful. I'm gonna try to give it another shot. But, Would love to see How You built Yours though.... ??
Can you put this in a diesel.......?
What gauge wire are you using? For both- and+
+DUMBASS I'm using 6 ga wire...
@@todziu7 For a second I thought you insulted him. Thanks for sharing.
My car is working! HHO
Do you have to refill water tank which produces the gas?
+Joygreg No. As HHO is produced and rises up and through the bubbler, water from the fill tank gravity feeds into the HHO generator. When you fill with gas - check the water level of the fill tank.
I'm ganna save some aswell.
Your car ran 6,5 km on 1 liter of fuel? Why is america still driving these cars.. My dad has a mini cooper clubman, it drives 26 km on 1 liter of diesel.
I don't understand that either... What the hell is going on over there?!
right? At least we are trying to reduce our pollution..
atiseru The EPA restrictions are killing us is what I'm told..if we didn't have that, we'd be running more diesels instead of just in our large trucks. Even in our large trucks, if we take off the emissions equipment, 30mpg is not out of the question.
This technology was discovered in the 70's I believe. Big oil silenced the idea due to the value of the us currency. Even today, that value depends mostly on oil trade. If we developed hho vehicles, a shit load of folks would be out of work and what the fuck would the Bush family do???? And halibertion??? OMFG
We do it because we're Americans, and a lot of us like our cars to have HP. And as long as we can afford the gas/fuel we're going to keep doing it. I know this sounds a bit cocky but I really don't mean for it to. It's just the truth. Now we have a bunch of liberals that say they think this is wrong but then they drive big black suvs with 4 or 5 other suvs around them for safety that get like 15 miles to the gallon. And say the rest of us are wrong for what we drive. But anyway a lot of us as well as myself like to be able to go as fast as possible when ever we want to, it's called freedom.....
Hi, How about today? I'm intersting to safe fuel for good earth. If It's still use as well, I will follow you.
What is the power source
put your money where your mouth is. put a video up and show me all i know its good for for ridding carbon build up that's about it. and why buy these cars if your worried about gas milage get a hybrid lmao a hho bmw now that's a joke.
The people I know who buy these cars don't have gas mileage as their primary concerns. But why not have the car AND the low gas mileage too with a 'fairly simple' install that may run you maybe $1000 or so if you're not mechanically inclined.
He used to get 16mpg now he gest about 32 (100/3.2) so at $3/gal after 700-800 miles he gets his money back.
Or you can look at it this way. he only pays $1.5 a gallon.....
But yes the hybrids are a joke. Here in europe people almost compeet to show who cna drive (or wear) the smalles car... I like a bit of comfort and thus want to buy a bigger car while keeping the gas consumption low...
? Do I have to use a flashback or not
nice
like that , in CZECH that made some old man on opel vectra ( 3.8l- 5l / 100km) but is that "UNIT" safety ? (me prefer 1.9 47 Kw Diesel engine) but its only for fun and work... on small VW pickup that take 4-5 L / 100km on custom chassis you can take it under 3.6 L (cca one gallon per 100km)
hi sir,good job,but sir i dont know abt a thing dat,while car stoped in nutral gear and while its on motor way,how to regolate the hho gas?i mean if i stop on a red signal will it remain accelerated 2000 or 3000 rounds or what?cos the hho generator produce the gas.sorry for my poor eng,hope u got it...thanx for replay
Just look on the internet, Type in HHO Generator, or just make one yourself like i did...
That is a mass air flow sensor
So that's roughly 6.25 gallons per 100 miles or 25 liters per 100 a definate improvement. Have you heard of firestorm spark plugs Or Coates rotary valve heads?
Hello.I added HHO to(almost a year ago)my truck an 89 Chevy with 164k on it.When you fill the tank up all the way,were you can see the gas about to run out of the tank.Then do your test and come back to the same station and same pump.When you put nozzle in and lift the handle to the 1st click so the gas flows slowly in.When you did your test,how for do you put the nozzle in?Did you stop at the 1st click of the pump when the gas stop?
I don't believe you, and why would you want to take a chance on burning down a piston running your car Lean? I have an 05 that gets 25-26 miles a gallon on the highway and always has.
The lead-acid battery was invented in 1859 by French physicist Gaston Planté it was found that over charging produced hydrogen and oxygen, these hydrogen devices are basically the same thing - the acid. nothing new here.
teach me how to..
@ David R, can you upload a video of your installation, I installed a HHO dry cell in my f150 2005 5.4 ,I must done something wrong because I'm getting 1 1/2 mpg less than without the cell, I'm using a Volo chip.
From the way I understand you have to have some kind of controller like an EFIE in order to help lean out the fuel otherwise the computer will add more fuel from the oxygen being added from the HHO?? If you are getting these Gaines without a controller you would probably get even better results with a controller.
He's getting approximately 31.25 miles per gallon
I just got 28.6 mpg with my hemi Dodge Magnum without HHO. I just drove 465 miles on cruise control at 65 mph. Do not fill up till it overflows! You will screw up the EVAP system.
You mentioned a '50 dodge. Did I get that right? If so, are still running a carb or have you switched it out for FI? Will you HHO gen work with a carb?
There are some aH that claim that hho generators can't work for cars. Tell them man.
Are you still running this thing? I want to put one on my Gas truck and my diesel suv.. Thanks
You should really think about putting a flash back arrestor on this if you haven't. They are really easy to make if you don't want to spend the $50 on a good one. Hopefully you haven't burned this car up yet.
If you connect hydrogen hose to intake manifold how you control the speed of you dodge confusing you explaination
Nice how did u keep the terminals from getting hot....and kind of container....
this is wired to my fuse box, it's connected to a fuse that comes on when you turn on the ignition key...
Nice how did u keep the terminals from getting hot....and kind of container....
I would like to see what you did on the 1950s truck. Please explain in detail how you inserted it into the carburator. I'm hoping to get better gas milage soon.
Thanks!!
Im using 8 gauge straid wire on 3 vessels with 13 plates each. So far the mileage have improved 25% and theres a sufficient notice in horsepower. Im planning on upgrading to 4gauge wire as I am melting my 100 amp fuse holder. Also each vessel will have its own fuse of 40 amps, which means ill have to install at least a 150 amp alternator
If it's melting the fuse holder I've seen this before your fuse isn't making good contact what I would suggest to fix this is run your wire to a fuse block and use the round glass fuses as they'll make better contact and not melt the fuse holder. I converted my 04 GMC to electric fans and thought I caught something on fire but it was just a melted fuse block
@@fishing_with_chaz
I was using those large round glass fuse holders.
I'm happy to hear that you were successful with that hydrogen generator! Save money, and keep our planet cleaner!
Installing a better HHO genny would weild even better results, the key to these is better electrolyzers like potassium hydroxide and more surface area, stainless steel helps to resist corrosion too.
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Would one have to reset the computer on car to let it calibrate it with the new fuel added and you would have to have a constant regulated supply or the engine will still burn same gas or this would probably hurt gas milage,
Just wondering how amps are you running?I'm now at 25 amps with two cells.When I 1st started,I add a EFIE to my oxygen(1.8 volts)sensor with one wire.Did all kinds of test from last August of 2012(got about 1 or 2 miles more per gallon)until just a month ago that my truck did have a Map sensor,this whole time the computer was killing my gains.Got a Map Enhancer form my HHO club & that was preset to 1.8 ohms,there work with a station that works on tuning up motors.