Legion Gaming Laptops just got MUCH Faster!
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 represents a quantum leap forward for gaming performance and in this video we compare it to Legion 7i Gen 7 and Gen 6 gaming laptops from 2022 and 2021. Is the new Pro 7i from 2023 worth it for an upgrade over older laptops in the same high end category?
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0:00 - Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 vs Gen 7 vs Gen 6
1:17 - The Spec Wars Continue
1:54 - AI+ Engine Theory Explained
2:24 - CPU & GPU Power to the MAX
3:09 - That Upgraded Cooling System
3:32 - Gen 8 vs Gen 7 vs Gen 6 (Real-World Tests)
4:04 - Gen 8 vs Gen 7 vs Gen 6 (Gaming Performance)
4:38 - A Thicker Chassis for a Reason
5:02 - Legion Pro 7i Design & Build Quality Differences
6:52 - 140W PD Charging!
8:47 - The Little Details
9:10 - A Smaller Power Adapter!
9:44 - Still the Best Keyboard?
10:37 - A Fast Display!
11:23 - 2023 Battery Life Strikes Again
11:41 - Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 Upgrade Options
12:15 - A Big Jump Forward
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Legion owners: Did you do it? (Refresh the Legions with RTX 4000 GPUs?)
Lenovo: Yes.
Legion customers: What did it cost?
Lenovo: Everything...
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thanks so much for this! just about to order a gen 7 model so this was so handy!!
Great review, just two comments on the specs. The 13900HX has 24 cores, 32 threads, not 24 threads as indicated here. The 24 threads is for the 13900H not used on the Gen 8. Also, I believe Windows Hello is not possible on the Gen 8 as it has no IR sensor which is unfortunate, but not something that will bother me too much. I prefer no frills and loads of power. As far as I can tell it offers the best value proposition. With the excellent cooling it outperforms many other 4080 laptop offerings coming close to some of the 4090s available on the market now. After a week of researching all that is out there I've placed my order for the pro 7i.
I know you’re being paid for this, but every single aspect of this laptop is inferior to last gen’s, except for performance.
I’m so upset at the sound quality of the legion line… the Y510p had SUCH A solid build but they only went downhill from there
And he talks about having one of the best screens🤣🤣 the legion pro 7 has the worst screen of all 2023 gaming laptops lmao
I was surprised and glad that he was honest about that. It's crazy that Lenovo would actually send out previous models, knowing it downgraded the new machine's build quality.
@@xruud24 no it doesn’t. Short of mini-LED screens nothing gets close to 500nits
Performance is better, cooling is better. If you care about fingerprint readers and glass touchpads buy a workstation laptop
Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the 2021 models to become somewhat affordable..
you might aswell get the 2023 models
Just got a new 2021 model with 5900hx 3080 32G 1T about 1600 USD, I think it's a good deal
@@me-hk4ic not everyone wants to pay double for an extra 30fps when you're already over 60fps. Really depends on personal preference and budget.
@@shanx5844you mean this legion?
@@rkymtnchi503 yeah but the 2021 model is 4k while the 4080 model is 2600
This review made me want to buy the gen 7 model.
I agree.
Don't , bad cooling
Got this recently, very happy with it 🔥
HC Not looking for gaming Laptop any time soon.Although I have family members who are big into gaming. I’m came to see how far they have come.And of course the Review which never disappoints and look forward to watching many more.Great work as always.✌️💯
is it possible if you could do a 1 month of use review to see if it holds up temp wise? i know alot of laptops when on constant charge and playing high end games 8 hours a day can start running really hot
I don't understand why people complain about the size/weight of the power adapters.
Are you mouse or men.
If carrying a laptop and power adapter in your back pack is too much for you,then you need to start going to the gym and put some muscle on.
How small do you want a power adapter to be..a tiny 330 watt power adapter will over heat quickly and not last long.
1:23 I guess the 13900HX's thread should be 32 instead of 24
Correct me if I'm wrong
Still love my gaming 3i, it really handles most anything at a decent frame rate albeit usually with slightly tweeted settings but nothing that makes you feel like your missing out on quality. Lenovo has really had a solid run the last few years.
Did you benchmark the games with DLSS ON? Please clarify the results.
Honestly I get the feeling they're holding out for a Legion 9 model or something similar, or Lenovo is just trying to cut corners to adapt to the absurd price hikes from Nvidia. The touchpad is plastic instead of glass, the design is much more boring and looks cheaper (in my opinion) without the brushed aluminum chassis from last year, there's no more fingerprint reader, there are fewer Type-C ports (seriously, who needs 4 USB-A ports anymore), there's no icon illumination for the back ports, and the AMD model isn't even coming to the US. As much as the performance of the 4080 looks really tempting, I think I'll be much better off sticking with a good deal on a 3080Ti or RX6850M XT model from last year, even if they don't perform as well. Well, that or wait a bit for the inevitable Legion Slim gen 8, which should hopefully bring the AMD Phoenix processors once they're available next month.
I think you are the one whos tempted by the looks rather than performance .
@@vmafarah9473 a plastic trackpad on a £2500 laptop (starts at for the 4080) is pure cringe
I think more USB-A is better than more USB-C, but you are right, they are cutting corners to keep the price down. It is cheaper than last years model for that matter.
You’re right about everything except that 4 USB-A is likely more convenient to most people than 4 USB C. I think they should go with 3 of each next time. 2 USB-A like on last year’s model was too few for most people.
@@MerryBlind most (if not every) usb and keyboard with wireless dongle uses USB-A, you loose two ports just at the start.
very good review!
You laptop review is a step above from the other reviewers with great shots, lighting and enough numbers . I'm always waiting for your laptop reviews.
You need to include a desktop 4080 into your graphs. It is disingenuous and irresponsible to not include information that tells potential customers of the difference. If Nvidia wants to call this cut down chip a 4080 without a mx or max-q designation, it should be compared against the desktop equivalent. Without it, you are enabling and shilling for Nvidia’s scummy tactics.
I support the 4080 desktop benchmark inclusion
The new one apparently has a plastic trackpad instead of glass. If true, that's a significant downgrade. Also, I don't believe the new one has Windows Hello. Can you confirm?
It much cheaper than last gen.
No Hello confirmed, I just got the same model.
Rip glass trackpad :(
Since I always use laptop directly connect to a monitor and had an external keyboard and mice I will not be bothered by having a plastic trackpad.
@@bernardo9275 So why would you pay more for premium product if you dont interact with it. You can spend less and get the same performance :)
Would you recommend getting this over the 2023 Zephyrus m16? I'm not a hard-core gamer, so performance is not the priority.
Excellent, Thanks.
Do you review their Thinkpad P series? That is the workstation laptops!! Please.
watching this on a color accurate oled is an absolute treat
To be fair, watching anything on a professionally calibrated OLED is a delight 😆
Why would they get rid of the backlit io labels?! Always use those ports and never have to turn the laptop around see if it's the right spot
This was the only major downgrade for me honestly.
Such a nice little feature to skimp on.
I'm wanting to purchase for the amazing performance. I really hate that they've lost the little high end features though - led lights over ports, fewer usb-c, plastic trackpad, and the new design looks more clunky than last gen. I'll take the extra thickness for better performance. For the 4080 ti models, will they bring it all back?
I really think you should go for an ROG this year. Perhaps the Strix G16/18 or Strix Scar 16/18. I got the 7i Gen 7 a few months ago and been loving it only because at the time I didn't want to go for a Scar 17 with a 16:10 aspect ration, medium build quality and no Windows Hello
@@ilya9343 Strix Scar 16 has very annoying coil whine this year, so best to stay away, i returned mine
@@saintryu2how do you hear the coil whine over your high end noise canceling headset? If you can afford a $2500 laptop you can afford a $350 headset.
@@Cruor34 It is simple, because I don't like using headphones all the time
Performance is king !!!! Great Review!!!!
How does it compare to the Yoga 9i Pro? Thanks!
IMO too many corners were cut. Not worthy of the Pro designation. Why drop the lighted rear port markings? Why drop the 2nd TB4 port? Why drop the all round RGB lighting? Why use more plastics? And what's with dropping the 2.5 gbe ethernet to 1.0 gbe? Also you totally didn't mention this drop in the RJ45 port speed to 1 gbe. I stopped watching after the point you talked about the rear ports at around 9:16. Intersting how you quickly glossed over those short comings and your choice of words. I know its hard to be too critical esp when Lenovo provided you with all the units for review.
I've seen there are some Legion AMD 3000 series TI models. Have you tested any?
AmD Nvidia combo,best combo. Best of both worlds.
I don't think the Type-C port on this model supports the proper PD 3.1 standard as it requires 20V/7A instead of 28V/5A to get the full 140W capability.
Yes, you need a special power adapter for it rather than the standard spec
You cant use a PD charger? That sucks
It will be interesting to see speeds of GPU load at 37 - 43 dB noise.
Beautiful. All of these 2023 laptops....but for me nothing beats the Razer Blade (and the Asus Zenbook 13 OLED is also cool).
Razer is literally £1200 more for the same specs in the UK. It’s just not worth it. I prefer Lenovo’s keyboard and ports selection, so went with the 7i Pro myself
I'm looking forward to Helios 18/16, which is almost the same price as this Lenovo Pro 7i and spec, although Helios 18/16 can only go up to RTX 4080 with 175/165 W TGP. But Helios 18/16 have MiniLED that this Legion doesn't.
I was going to wait for that too, but I saw someone say in Europe the non-miniLED Helios 18 was €3300. Not sure how reliable that is but even if it was the miniLED one, that's still a decent amount more expensive than the Legion.
@@proXprocrastinator I don't think that price is applicable in america. The Rog Strix 18 everyone loves (best 4080 for $2500) is $3.7 dollars there. OMG, RIP Europe
Man I'm confused which way should I go 😫 I was planning to buy legion 5i pro i9 13900hx RTX 4070 32gb ram 1tb storage I'm going to be using it for my creative work, after effects, davinci, blender etc but I'm looking to have a color accurate screen as well for color grading purpose but some say it's overpriced for the specs and at the same time I'm looking for other options too but ended up getting more confused
Its interesting that you said "magnesium and aluminum finish"
I bet that, besides the lid and probably the back cover, its all made from plastic lol.
Sidez, we lost any kind of windowz hello unlock :'
Anyway, I ordered one legion w 4080 because of its price tag (less than 3k for a 4080 is a go).
It even, in some cases, surpasses the titan from MSI with literally can cost more than double
Gen 8 looks solid. I am curious how the non TB4 port is wired to display...is it direct to intel GPU OR the RTX? I'd assume TB4 port gets direct access to the RTX? How many 4K displays can you drive, 2 out of TB and 1 out of USBC via DP?
I see a lot of complaining , but yall want to pay 1k or more for a few extra quirks , all the power to you , i got my 4090 for 2,799 and im super fine with that.
13900hx has 32 threads not 24, and its rams are 5600mhz
Its 24 Cores and 32 threads. the efficiency cores (16) are single thread and the Performance Cores (8) have SMT
@@nebadon2025 are you a parrot?
While it is "backwards" in some design. Its an amazing laptop for what it can do and tbh I think one of the best performing laptops avalible (and cheapest if you have a Lenovo student account)
Plus 10% Rakuten cashback, 5% discount for code EXTRA5, 3% Lenovo rewards, and for me, 3% Credit Card rewards. Pretty good deal.
Question for ya. U mentioned installing more memory you will lose the 5600 speed? Is this a limitation of the laptop? I want to upgrade to 64gb and the 64gb kit will be rated at 5600hrz. The laptop won't handle that?
it's stays at 5200ghz can confirm
Lenovo 16" Legion Pro 5i is on sale now at USD1250 (RTX 4060, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 240 Hz QHD IPS Display). Is it a better buy over ROG Zephyrus G14 2023 (16GB RAM, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD) at the same price ?
Major designs regression on 2023 model, Lan port is upside down, LED port indicator removed, No fingerprint scanner on power button, 1Gbps lan port where 2022 model came with 2.5Gbps, plastic trackpad
Damn it. Everyone is cutting TB ports. I guess the market has spoken (or at least they think it has).
I need 2. I think the only one with 2 right now are the MSI Titan series but I don't need that much machine.
Also looks like AMD platforms are just going full "no TB/USB4" this year. Why they do this? :D
Is the memory speed on the gen8 5600 or 5200? Can't find the official info, even on Lenovo's website.
I've got one, it's 5600 and can be OC to 6000.
can't get over how cheap the case looks, looks like a $899 best buy special
It basically looks like the 5 pro. I have the 5 pro and it looks and feels really nice honestly.
You forgot to mention they removed finger print reader from gen 7.
Why is it so difficult to find these products in our local retailers here in Canada. It's so annoying that I have to just order these things online when I would rather just drive to my local retailer instead.
Could you say to us if the palm rest is metal like last year or plastic? In the legion we page says abs but I don't know if is only the track pad or all the chasis
The trackpad is plastic and the palm rest is also plastic. The top and bottom panel's are still metal but the vents are plastic. Kind of like Lenovo legion 5 pro from 2021 and 2022. I might be wrong but based on what I read online this seems to be the case.
Review the ROG SCAR 16 MINI LED and compare it's display with Scar 18 IPS panel
pls also people its possilbe for the laptop to have graphics crashes and the whole screen can black out
becareful when u buy these cos u pretty much have to undervolt the gpu to keep it stable (which depending on ur perspective it can be fine, but its not factory undervolted of course so you have to do it yourself)
I am confused between this and Legion pro 5i to buy this year? Which is more value for money?
Same here, I'm planning to buy legion pro 5i i9 13900hx RTX 4070
Does it come with the perimeter light?
I picked up a Legion Slim 7i return open box from BB after Christmas. I have been pleasantly surprised. My only complaint is how hot it gets.
Fun fact: The slim 7 has better battery life than any of the legions based on the benchmark, i think it's think because they limit the size of the fans?
@@exoticussatisfying6860 higher legions do not have airplane engine levels fans lol, fans barely take that much chunk of power than it's gonna change entire battery life, and fan size does not mean lower power, please research before you speak man. I came here so that other doofus bags won't believe ur comment.
Main reasoning slim 7 series is so good even on intel side of things is due to how lenovo optimised it, using efficient pheniox bios etc. Don't blabber dude. Ah how internet has become
@@pranavdupati9164 how about if I go with legion 5i pro 13900hx RTX 4070? But few said battery backup is terrible only lasts about 2 hrs and others I have heard saying it has low speed ram so I'm confused
@@Inc0gnit045 it's average but not at all 2h, expect around 4 to 6h
When is the Asus scar 16 review coming out?
This laptops so good compared to its competitors, but ips screen is the biggest set back
First link has Lowe's ad tracking... Please don't.
When will legion 5 pros release?
I have an 12700h + rtx 3070. But i am still jealous
Any info about Slim 7 for 2023?
A bit off topic maybe but I got an ROG Strix 15 about 2 years ago with liquid metal on the cpu and gpu. Do I have to or should I replace it after a while or should I only consider changing it when the temps are getting too high?
ye u'll need to change it after a few years . i don't have much knowledge about when exactly and how but i remember very well that u are supposed to apply new thermal paste after few years
@@keerthan7558 I have replaced thermal paste before but this is liquid metal, not paste
Damn, lots of cost cutting going on in this year's model, very disappointing to see
1:18 Hey some info isn’t accurate for the Pro 7. The i9 has 32 threads not 24. The DDR5 speed is 5600 MHz, not 5200.
Mayday mayday. I need immediate advice as I have to buy a laptop at earliest!
Options: ROG M16 vs Legion Pro 7i both configured with 4080.
Question: I like M16 personally but I want to run Microsoft flight simulator at max settings.
Can M16, 4080 run MSFS at max settings?
Yes he can
Oh man, as someone torn between the ROG Strix and Legion 5, this is NEXT LEVEL but the perfect compromise.
Thumbnail is fire 🔥
Eber doing the magic 🪄
-D.
Is this laptop fully compatible with Linux?
Hello! A little mistake, 13900 not 24 threads, its 24 cores 32 threads. Regards!
Can't wait to but this in 2024
Bro review also 5i pro 2023
honestly i dont mind the RGB being toned down to give the laptop a more minimalist feel. When you look at the laptops from Asus or MSI their RGB is all over the place, compare with something like Razer Blade which only has RGB on the keyboards, I think most would easily agree the Blade looks more elegant.
I think most people are more disappointed in the chassis aesthetic change than the RGB. Last year’s industrial look combined with high quality material and brushed aluminum finish gave it a unique and elegant look.
@@Smart_boy2001What does having a numpad or not have to do with elegance lol if anything not having a numpad is more “elegant” since it streamlines the deck of the laptop, gives more breathing room for the main keyboard, and does not offset the trackpad.
@@MerryBlind without a num pad the laptop looks like a toy
@@Smart_boy2001what do you need the number pad for? I don't think I've ever used the numpad on my keyboard, and I'm talking in 30 years. Maybe you should game on the gaming laptop? Just a thought.
@@Cruor34some of us run more than just games. Numpad is critical for using Blender. I personally wouldn’t buy a laptop without a numpad
Beautiful laptop. unbelievable performance.
I hope laptop companies start using solid state cooling...it's more efficient and way slimmer.
That tech is not yet ready for widespread production use. Maybe in 2-3 years…
Legion 7 was a good laptop already, currently it seems cost saving measures are starting to take place
No it's much cheaper. May be last time their expensive side backfired.
Well, yeah. For full price the 4080 legion is cheaper than most 3080ti's while destroying their performance. Either Lenovo cut some features to keep price down, or everyone complains that they're too expensive
@@kylerclarke2689 and 3080ti were 50% more expensive than 2021 models.
Overpriced vs overpriced.
I have just bought the 4080 pro 7 waiting for it to arrive today
Can u post any benchmarks with the temps showing? It would really help me decide
Yeah it doesn't seem like a massive upgrade at all but its still an amazing laptop. I'm happy with my 5i Pro for now🤗
Got mine as well today, how do you feel about the display?
@@TheMirrorYouDeserve love the display even if there are some games that not support 16:10 aspect ratio 😔
Perf wise the 4080 destroys the 3080ti
@@kylerclarke2689 I'm sure it is but I don't care if the difference is between 250 and 300fps
@@IronicSonic83 there's a huge difference between 45fps and 60.
In the spec wars bit of the video, you confused "threads" with "cores", not sure you noticed. :s
So it's 32 threads and 24 CORES.
How can I check the FPS difference between the new Gen 8 Pro 7I 4070 vs 4080 version?
There are comparison videos here on RUclips. Short answer: 4080 is significantly faster, well worth the cost difference.
I have this laptop with the 4080 and can confirm it's fantastic. I've never been a fan of the left of centre touchpads though, as much as I like the full size arrow keys - would rather they were squished in to fit it in the middle.
It's also by far the heaviest laptop I have owned - but the robust cooling system justifies it, I suppose.
Indeed, it’s actually not that heavy compared to the competition if you match the specs, and it has the best cooling, especially with the vapour chamber for the 4080 and 4090 models. I went with the 4080 model myself and it’s a superb all-rounder
i'm debating between legion 7i and msi 77hx..difficult choice
It was about time for a review.
As a RUclips Premium user, I pay RUclips to not see adverts. This entire video is an advert
Hey hardware canucks I have same laptop (same specs 4080)I was able to get 6:30 hours of battery life with eco (battery saver plus quite mode) and hybrid-integrated gpu only for normal use like web browsing, video playback on RUclips, ect… and emulating old console games on dolphin.
The price to performance of this laptop seems unbeatable
Same screen, but heavier, bigger, and less battery time. He's becoming the QVC shopping channel.
No TKL version?
does it still have the rainbow puke keyboard, when it boots up that's impossible to turn off? if so then it's a hard no.
I hate LGBTQ puke too.
just wished that legion laptops offered a 100 percent dcip3 color option for displays like Alienware. the difference is so apparent
Same. I'm probably going to be using an external monitor most of the time, though.
I am very disappointed that you jumped straight to conclude that the 140W PD charging here is part of the USB PD 3.1 EPR when it is likely not.
According to Lenovo own's User Manual, the specs for 140W charging is 20V 7A, which is out of any USB PD 3.1 140W specs, including EPR specs.
The 140W USB PD 3.1 EPR specs is at 28V 5A. No specs of the USB PD 3.1 allows any higher than 5A of current.
This implies that, again, only Lenovo proprietary GAN charger would be able to reach 140W Type C charging. Other aftermarket charger would likely only see maximum 100W charging.
What the speed at 64gb ram ?
9:30 That's just slightly, not "much more".
at least now we have something with standard design
So basically downgrade for regular/majority of people?
Great! Now I could get the older model for much cheaper in the next few months 👌🏼
This
True if you pay for looks and outsiude shell. For inside stuff such as CPU/GPU/RAM, performance and cooling, I don't see any 'downgrade'.
Nice, I've always wanted a space heater included for free in my laptop
You been under a rock? Any laptop the last 20 years can give you that
@@superkoopatrooper4879 and you have to sit right on top of a laptop and physically touch it and hear ever DB of the loud ass fans....
I just got my Pro 5i Gen 8
Hey boss, i want to know your opinion if it is worth upgrading a 5 year old laptop ( Acer Predator Helios 300, Gtx 1060, i7-8750H). Thank you
It sure took a great leap but backwards in design and aesthetics.
This definitely feels like it's sponsored
The 13900HX has 32 threads
I have a lenevo legion 5i pro gen 7 with a i7 12900H an rtx 3050 ti...and somehow I'm jealous
Rip....literally worst laptop cpu/gpu combo available 😂
You should have gone i7 12 then gen 3060 . Or 11thgen i7 3070 for the same price if you want more in games.
Sry, but the 3070 model may perform 2.2X times better.
I personally own the 4080 version of this laptop. It is slightly heavier than my older 3060 strix scar 15, but I've gotta say my Davinci Resolve exports are more than twice as fast and I can output straight to av1 instead of using handbrake after the fact.
The keyboard is quite nice, I found myself getting up to full typing speed pretty quickly. The only exception to the is the 10-key, I'm happy to have it but it does feel a bit cramped and is harder to get used to.
Overall I'm very happy with this laptop, I picked it over the Zephyrus M16 4080 due to the higher tier CPU in this model. Weight and portability weren't a real concern to me, I don't mind my laptop being heavier.
Edit: One small note, my cpu performance on battery is actually lower than I got with my two year old Asus laptop. I'm certain that's due to the better efficiency on the AMD cpu in that laptop. I am primarily plugged in wherever I go however so I wasn't bothered by that.
I also own the 4080 model too given that at launch it was the only SKU available. Love it, especially since the black finish gives it a very business like vibe to it. It feels like a beefier Lenovo ThinkPad as opposed to the GAMER(TM) designs on the other gaming laptops on the market.
I am also looking into getting one. But i am not sure about the color accuracy on the IPS display. I am also editing with Davinci Resolve but if everything i am editing there is later on completely off.... what is you'r experience there with the colors of the display @bashbromayhem?
Everyone talking about the competition but they forget the prize the gap between Lenovo and others is 500$ more or less so plz
I will buy it only if there is option for 360Hz
I likle how all the downgrades are smoothly brushed over because it's a sponsored review. Hope you got a nice check mate