Robustos: Partagas Vs. Hoyo
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- I had fun doing a comparative cigar tasting in Las Vegas a few months back at the Rhumbar at the Mirage with a Partagas Serie D No. 4 and a Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure No. 2 -- both Cubans. These are the most popular Robustos made on the island. The Partagas is made at the Partagas factory and the Hoyo comes from the La Corona fabrica. I really thought the Serie D would slaughter the Hoyo. But it didn't. That's a big surprise for me, and probably it's a surprise for you too, if you love Cuban cigars.
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To those who are just shitting anything out of their mouths regarding this review, I say 1) smoking 2 cigars at the same time is one right way to compare 2 cigars specially when comparing flavors 2) this is James Suckling who has been smoking and reviewing cigar since ur mom and dad were dating.
Ibrahim Zeinelabdin yeah but cigars without weed sucks
Lol
James Suckling, Cigar expert, world renowned journalist and very likeable intelligent man. He knows what he is doing!
If that's how he savors good sticks I don't want to know who this guy is...
I enjoy stronger spicy cigars towards the end of the day after my palate has been used for eating and stuff all day. If I where to light the Series D up at the beginning/earlier in the day its a little too strong to enjoy the sutler flavors. The lighter, more mild cigars are better earlier in the day. In addition, I think drink parings are important too. If you have a strong drink, like the vodka in his drink, it may blunt the flavor of the Epicure No. 2 due to being very strong on the palate. The pepper/leather taste in cigars usually comes out no matter what you do but the sutler flavors are a little more difficult to taste. I'm not bashing on the video, this guy is a great reporter and has done some cool work. I am just posting for any beginning aficionados.
Just purchased a box of Partagas D4’s and one of the few Cubans that I can smoke immediately without any aging. Believe they’re a true bargain with notes of cedar, nuts, and leather with a great burn to boot. The Hoyo Epicure is a great example of a mild but very flavorful cigar that I can appreciate during the morning hours or whenever my palate is shot after a long day. Nice review but prefer smoking one cigar at a time with some sort of beverage to compliment my cigar.
Well said!
I have had both, the series d is one heavy weight cigar, if you don't smoke regularly don't do it Both are fantastic but I am a Hoyo fan and the epicure 2 us my fave!
Just had one today for the first time and I had to say it completely changed my view of cigars It literally left me wanting more and to try and see what’s out there
People are forgetting, this is not the first time he's smoked each cigar. This is a good way to compare two cigars that you have already smoked previously
Exactly, he's smoked most Havanas and many of them a great number of times. He just looks a little bit drunk.
You picked the wrong battle
OkAy where can I get one of these lighters?
James glad i found this great review of your's my friend 👌😚💨 when those two robustos are smoking well, it's a bit like sophie's choice for me 🤣
Love them both Hoyo is perfect ❤
What serious cigar smoker smokes two cigars at the same time, smoke one then the other, both great robustos but when this was filmed the sd4s were very inconsistent from memory
So here comes world expert James Suckling. Probably the top cuban cigar expert in the world. He puts up a free review for us.
Then the goofball trolls show their gratitude by insulting him through their A-holes.
No wonder he does so few of these.
Noko top cuban expert IN THE WORLD???..are you kidding man? this guy make a review smoking 2 cigars in the same time,it is really to blame.He is not an expert he is just a rich bored gentleman that like a dolce vita,nothing else ;-)
@@enricomemmoli7399 You could not compete with this man's palate if your life depended on it.
hdm is very creamy, buttery, short breadish with a few years on them. great cigars!
Really? Why this guy smokes two cigarettes at the same time, when the flavors are changing depending on the cigar thirds when consumed? Why does a deep cut? Only have to cut the top of the head of the cigar, and why burn with butane lighter when it hurts the taste? Nobody expert in my country does these atrocities to these incredible cigars.
sure,he is smoke in the eyes for yankees supporters
the hoyo is my favourite
I also go for the epicure No2, I proffer the creamier Cuban blends and it delivers it in bucket loads, the D4 is a bit too spicy and peppery for my tastes, good review.
James is good, very good, and I really appreciate his refined palate and his experience as a critic. But top cuban cigar expert in the WORLD? I dont think he'd even agree with you. But all said and done, I agree with you. James needs to stop listening to fools who don't appreciate his experience and do more cigar reviews. And wine too!
I want to see Partagas D4 vs Epicure 2 vs Cohiba Robusto vs. Trinidad Esmeralda vs. Upmann Mag52 vs. Montecristo2 vs. Vegueros Centrofinos in an all out smokefest grudgematch. Do it!
Great review!
great review!
Wonderful review(s)! Let’s see more of these please! Thanks James!
Good video James Thank you
life is good!!
Loved it James!
Do the test again and (likely) get a different conclusion. It is not like 25 cigars in a box taste the same. As you already know James!
I remember watching James Sucking make his appearance in the movie/documentary Blood Into Wine. Featuring Maynard J. Keenan. Amazing film.
Great review.
I rated the Hoyo with very high marks also
great review! i love the Series D! They are a great cigar - I'll have to try a Hoyo some day.
This guy wrote for Cigar Aficionado.
Living the dream
How is he an expert I do not know
THANKS FOR THE INFO +jamessucklingtv ......
Well theyre completely different profiles, whats the point of this?
I feel like you would have no clue which cigar you're smoking, you never cleansed your pallet in between cigars, and it did appear that the tobacco was scorched.
what is this ligter
Partagas
Strange that you were getting so much pepper/spice with the D4s. I've got a box of them and they've all been rather smooth/creamy. Could be a difference in age of the cigars.
It's a fake, that's how!
How can you bring a Cuban into America?
I thought the embargo prohibited it.
Que es cocho ?
Serie D no.4 is no longer what it once was it is simply garbage now , the Serie P no.2 is defiantly at the top of the portages portfolio now . And the Epi no.2 is simply just a solid go to cigar.
It might be mushy cuz he's sucking the hell out of it. is he smoking each robusto in 6 min
That is a badass lighter! Is it soft
he cut the cigar the wrong way!!....that's why he is taking little pieces of Tabaco out of his mouth!!! and then he burned it!!!
@Nokomisclub so wht ???
Soft flame or torch?
solo a los gringos se les ocurre probar dos habanos al mismo tiempo, no sabe ni que onda y se creen grandes conocedores...
Partagas!!!!
@Dimelo23 thats utter bs. Most native Cubans dont have enough money to smoke the cigars the rest of the world gets to smoke so they're forced to smoke other brands.
Cuban cigars in Cuba cost jack shit mate
Want to try that answer again 10 years later?😀
pffffff....yeah!!whats the best!in las vegas...
they are simply different.
hizo un suaje(corte) muy grande....mal hecho
Esta es la evidencia de que los gringos no tiene una auténtica cultura. ¿Prender dos habanos para compararlos en sabor? ¿Quien le da el derecho a este señor de escoger cual es el mejor? El habano se escoge por preferencia del cliente en sabor, aromas en frío y tonalidades en aumento del primer tercio hasta el tercer tercio. Esto es una falta de respeto para el magnificente placer de fumar habanos y puros y presumir que tuvo acceso a ellos. En México si podemos comprarlos sin problema.
another "great expert" is Mr Lawrence of Sauttern cigar a big cigar shop in London he tasted 4 robusto in the same time,he smoke as a chimney 10 puff every 10 seconds!he is just a seller not a cigar lovers,but people is so ignorant and clapclap every bullshits they did.They lack of cigar culture,but they got good money.
The hell you're doing man.
How could you bring Cuban cigars in the USA? You risked a lot. Of course I don't agree with the embargo but here we are talking about the USA the least free place on earth lol. Be careful
😂😂
James, cigar is not your thing, stick with wines !!!
Good Lord...what did I just watch? Must be one of the most horrible videos I have ever watched.
Why?
The Partagas is a fake. The way he describes it : loose, harsh, light weight. Definitely a fake.
Or just typical garbage Cuban quality control. Currently have a D4 in my humidor which is the most spongy cigar I've ever had.
Dude , he is James sucking he was handed these from the fucking factory in Cuba , which he filmed while he was there on a government sponsored trip. Look him up. This guy invented wine spectator and was a top critic at cigar aficionado.
I thought this guy was smart. After this he has no credibility for me.
You know .... shit about cigars 🤣🤣🤣, painful to watch you smoke both
Wow, way to slaughter pronunciations. If you're as well versed in cigars as everyone here claims, you should probably learn to appropriately say their names.