@@johnhuanvu It's all improvising to connect with our folks. I did our very first livestream multicast in March of 2020 with my iPhone going to FB and my Laptop's front facing camera going to RUclips. I got on the phone and ordered a Mevo Plus right away. That helped a lot.
Great video as we have 1 PTZ camera that isn't NDI and have on order a 30x NDI PTZ camera and was wondering how other Catholic Church's have their cameras placed. You are the 1st Catholic Church I've found on RUclips and bonus, you also showed camera placement. Thank you so much. We have been livestreaming since the shutdown and did the crash course on how to do so, probably similar to your experience. Perhaps I'll do a video on our setup to compare. Thanks again and God bless.
Hey great video learned alot! Dumb question: my church has very poor internet so we connect the computer to a phone to tether (to use the data as it is much faster). Could I connect all 3 cameras to the network switcher and have the output of that switcher go to our computer? Thanks!
I'm not that tech savy .and been looking for a esay setup that I could understand how to work at our new church .would like to know what you all have and what it cost
We bought threaded conduit from Home Depot, painted it white. We got an exterior junction box with a threaded nipple and mounted that above the ceiling tiles to a soffit. The pole mount camera bracket has a threaded nipple welded to it so it's pretty easy to install. Vibrates once in a while when the HVAC kicks in, but rarely when we stream the last 4 years. Pole mount: ptzoptics.com/pole-mounts/ Gang box: www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-1-Gang-Metallic-Weatherproof-Box-with-3-1-in-Holes-Gray-WSB3100G/300845457
Thanks for the video Greg. I was considering PTZ cameras for my church but reports of poor video quality and camera shakes during use has led me to consider other options such as mirrorless cameras. Could you please add some footage from your PTZ cameras so I could see the quality for myself?
You can see our shots on our livestream page... stphilipfranklin.com/live-stream/ watch one of the Sunday 8:30am Masses when we do multi-camera. Don’t get any shaking. PTZ optics is very smooth, but it’s easy to pan/zoom too far. Best multi-camera practice with these is to set your next shot on a camera off program and then switch. With just 1 Camera, it’s a bit trickier, but you can pre-program scenes and switch pretty quick using an iPad as a remote or the optional controller. On our stream you’ll see a black blink once in a while. That’s an issue with our software, Livestream Studio, and NVidia GPU. Waiting on a patch. Doesn’t happen in VMix or OBS.
Right. That’s it. The Ethernet cable needs to be plugged into a POE (Power Over Ethernet) switcher. The camera sends the feed to the network and the switcher sends power to the camera. Eliminates the need for a power supply. You only have to pull Ethernet to the camera location.
I feel stupid. What is simulcast license? I setup our Church with older Canon camera with good Cmos sensor and pump video to PC with OBS software and out to RUclips livestream. We have CCLI but I have not seen anything about livestream license. Are you sure it's needed?
You don’t need a license to simulcast. What I meant is that our software, Livestream Studio, comes with a Vimeo Premium license. With this level of service, Vimeo can be set up to simulcast as a recurring event to Facebook, RUclips and specific RTMP destinations. This reduces the bandwidth on our upload because we’re only streaming to one destination, Vimeo. We have the recurring Vimeo event window embedded on our website, so all our streams show up there without having to make any backend changes for our regular worship. LS Studio remembers all our camera and destination settings, so when it is launched, all our volunteers have to do is make sure the program window is on the altar and hit “Go Live.” We stream daily, and have volunteers with varying levels of tech savvy. So that helps a lot. OBS is great, btw. Especially for churches on a tight budget and / or stream once a week with a solid team. You must have some really great experience. I’ve worked with it as well as VMix. LS Studio has its share of quirks. We have the budget to handle Premium and do 10 steams a week: 2 in Spanish and 8 in English.
Hi there Greg. Thanks for the video, it's very useful. I have a question and it may be a silly one since I have little to none understanding of live stream set up, it's all new to me. I saw that you have a controller for the PTZ cam. The question is, do I still need an Atem Mini (of something like it) in order to be able to stream? Is it enough to have the PTZ cam and the controller? God bless
You just need the camera and the IP controller. Most production software will connect to NDI cams, so it eliminates the need for a video switcher. You program each camera’s IP address into the controller. Cam 1, 10.20.0.21; Cam 2, 10.20.0.22, etc. When you select the camera button on the IP controller, you can then program presets into the camera and recall the presets. You use your software to switch program inputs.
$23K. We ran fiber into the sanctuary and added a network switch, so that includes network hardware, computer, cameras, switcher, software, and labor: installing equipment, running cable, IT company, etc.
Those white cameras are Polycom HDX MPTZ Eagle Eye series conference webcam,yes they are quite expensive,their build quality cuts no corners these cameras are built like a tank.
What type of footage would you like to actually see? During an actual service is difficult. We’re in an open part of the sanctuary next to the choir and all of our technicians are busy. I could demo what we do running our production software when nothing is happening…
Hey there. God bless you man Just a question please, I found some PTZ cameras called "SMTAV" with the same specs of the PTZOptics cameras, but for a much less price (800-900$).. is the PTZOptics worth it or it's just overpriced ? thank you
Never heard of SMTAV. Not available when we got ours in 2020. Looks like they came out Spring of 2021. On one review I saw from April, it looked exactly like a PTZOptics down to the case, packaging and remote. Could be a knock off. I’ve been really pleased with PTZOptics tech support.
@@GregWaltonMusic As you mentionned it's all depends on the support, SMTAV is a chinese brand, there some videos about them on youtube but i don't think they have any support whatsoever. Thanks Greg for the reply. and Thank you for your videos.
I'm looking at AVKANS NDI Cameras for upgrade. I've read they are exact copies of PTZoptics and have good support. Will find out when I save up enough. Around $550 for 20x NDI and $800+ for 30x NDI with motion tracking.
Hi Greg thank you for sharing your set up. May God bless all your team
Thanks! Blessing back at ya
Thank you for sharing this awesome video Greg!
Well thanks!
Learned so much Greg. Thanks for sharing. Plus, it was so cool to see inside your church!
Thanks John! Are you involved with your church’s tech?
@@GregWaltonMusic , nope. Our priest is just using fancy zoom and laptop camera.
@@johnhuanvu It's all improvising to connect with our folks. I did our very first livestream multicast in March of 2020 with my iPhone going to FB and my Laptop's front facing camera going to RUclips. I got on the phone and ordered a Mevo Plus right away. That helped a lot.
@@GregWaltonMusic , how impressive!
Wow is great your idea !! How mucho this ptz ?? Ando yoj can streaming with obs studio??
Thanks for sharing, really helpful video.
super super informative , but you didn't talk about the audio . I have a Behringer X32 and looking for help with sound from band to go to live stream
I love your video so much
Great video as we have 1 PTZ camera that isn't NDI and have on order a 30x NDI PTZ camera and was wondering how other Catholic Church's have their cameras placed. You are the 1st Catholic Church I've found on RUclips and bonus, you also showed camera placement. Thank you so much. We have been livestreaming since the shutdown and did the crash course on how to do so, probably similar to your experience. Perhaps I'll do a video on our setup to compare. Thanks again and God bless.
Cool beans!
How effective is the use of 30X NDI PTZ CAMERA? looking forward to your sharing
@@ADKDIO-Camera the 30x NDI camera really helps to make our videos sharp and bright. Will be converting the 20x to NDI soon.
@@donbasta2475 Thx,Maybe you can try ADKIDO NDI PTZ Camera,will definitely surprise you
Hey great video learned alot! Dumb question: my church has very poor internet so we connect the computer to a phone to tether (to use the data as it is much faster). Could I connect all 3 cameras to the network switcher and have the output of that switcher go to our computer? Thanks!
I'm not that tech savy .and been looking for a esay setup that I could understand how to work at our new church .would like to know what you all have and what it cost
Where can I buy those poles running from the ceiling?
We bought threaded conduit from Home Depot, painted it white. We got an exterior junction box with a threaded nipple and mounted that above the ceiling tiles to a soffit. The pole mount camera bracket has a threaded nipple welded to it so it's pretty easy to install. Vibrates once in a while when the HVAC kicks in, but rarely when we stream the last 4 years. Pole mount: ptzoptics.com/pole-mounts/ Gang box: www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-1-Gang-Metallic-Weatherproof-Box-with-3-1-in-Holes-Gray-WSB3100G/300845457
Can I just go straight to my tv with hdmi or do I need a program or software in my computer??
Sorry for the late response. You mean you’re not live streaming? You just want to go straight to a TV, like in a cry room?
Thanks for the video Greg. I was considering PTZ cameras for my church but reports of poor video quality and camera shakes during use has led me to consider other options such as mirrorless cameras. Could you please add some footage from your PTZ cameras so I could see the quality for myself?
You can see our shots on our livestream page... stphilipfranklin.com/live-stream/ watch one of the Sunday 8:30am Masses when we do multi-camera. Don’t get any shaking. PTZ optics is very smooth, but it’s easy to pan/zoom too far. Best multi-camera practice with these is to set your next shot on a camera off program and then switch. With just 1 Camera, it’s a bit trickier, but you can pre-program scenes and switch pretty quick using an iPad as a remote or the optional controller. On our stream you’ll see a black blink once in a while. That’s an issue with our software, Livestream Studio, and NVidia GPU. Waiting on a patch. Doesn’t happen in VMix or OBS.
Also, we’re shooting at 720p. Edit: we recently upped to 1080p the last few months (7/29/21).
@@GregWaltonMusic Thanks for your reply, Greg. Why are you shooting at 720p? Is your Internet speed limiting you?
@@GregWaltonMusicyour video feed looks good. How far away is the center camera?
@@dgreene3209 about 75ft. It has a 30X optical zoom.
Does the camera you showed only require the 1 network cable, then the network cable must also provide the video to the computer for streaming.
Right. That’s it. The Ethernet cable needs to be plugged into a POE (Power Over Ethernet) switcher. The camera sends the feed to the network and the switcher sends power to the camera. Eliminates the need for a power supply. You only have to pull Ethernet to the camera location.
I feel stupid. What is simulcast license? I setup our Church with older Canon camera with good Cmos sensor and pump video to PC with OBS software and out to RUclips livestream. We have CCLI but I have not seen anything about livestream license. Are you sure it's needed?
You don’t need a license to simulcast. What I meant is that our software, Livestream Studio, comes with a Vimeo Premium license. With this level of service, Vimeo can be set up to simulcast as a recurring event to Facebook, RUclips and specific RTMP destinations. This reduces the bandwidth on our upload because we’re only streaming to one destination, Vimeo. We have the recurring Vimeo event window embedded on our website, so all our streams show up there without having to make any backend changes for our regular worship. LS Studio remembers all our camera and destination settings, so when it is launched, all our volunteers have to do is make sure the program window is on the altar and hit “Go Live.” We stream daily, and have volunteers with varying levels of tech savvy. So that helps a lot. OBS is great, btw. Especially for churches on a tight budget and / or stream once a week with a solid team. You must have some really great experience. I’ve worked with it as well as VMix. LS Studio has its share of quirks. We have the budget to handle Premium and do 10 steams a week: 2 in Spanish and 8 in English.
How bout connecting sound ?
I need to get cracking on that, Moses. Thanks for the reminder.
Hi there Greg. Thanks for the video, it's very useful.
I have a question and it may be a silly one since I have little to none understanding of live stream set up, it's all new to me. I saw that you have a controller for the PTZ cam. The question is, do I still need an Atem Mini (of something like it) in order to be able to stream? Is it enough to have the PTZ cam and the controller? God bless
Of course, internet connection.
You just need the camera and the IP controller. Most production software will connect to NDI cams, so it eliminates the need for a video switcher. You program each camera’s IP address into the controller. Cam 1, 10.20.0.21; Cam 2, 10.20.0.22, etc. When you select the camera button on the IP controller, you can then program presets into the camera and recall the presets. You use your software to switch program inputs.
@@GregWaltonMusic Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply. It has really helped. I appreciate that. Gob bless.
Please tell me the name of this product ?
PTZ Optics NDI. The one on the stand is a 12x. On the walls are the 30X
@@GregWaltonMusic Manufacturers Name ?
@@hai70928 the manufacturer is PTZ Optics, ptzoptics.com
what was the budget for this ?
$23K. We ran fiber into the sanctuary and added a network switch, so that includes network hardware, computer, cameras, switcher, software, and labor: installing equipment, running cable, IT company, etc.
Hey Greg can you reach out to me to help setup for my church
Hey Mitchell. Happy to help if I can.
Those white cameras are Polycom HDX MPTZ Eagle Eye series conference webcam,yes they are quite expensive,their build quality cuts no corners these cameras are built like a tank.
Church footage Please!!!! Why no one shows the cameras actually working during a service!?
What type of footage would you like to actually see? During an actual service is difficult. We’re in an open part of the sanctuary next to the choir and all of our technicians are busy. I could demo what we do running our production software when nothing is happening…
Hey there. God bless you man
Just a question please, I found some PTZ cameras called "SMTAV" with the same specs of the PTZOptics cameras, but for a much less price (800-900$).. is the PTZOptics worth it or it's just overpriced ? thank you
Are they NDI? Part of the price point with NDI is the license for the firmware. Also, what is the optical zoom for the SMTAV?
@@GregWaltonMusic yes they are 30x optical zoom NDI
Never heard of SMTAV. Not available when we got ours in 2020. Looks like they came out Spring of 2021. On one review I saw from April, it looked exactly like a PTZOptics down to the case, packaging and remote. Could be a knock off. I’ve been really pleased with PTZOptics tech support.
@@GregWaltonMusic As you mentionned it's all depends on the support, SMTAV is a chinese brand, there some videos about them on youtube but i don't think they have any support whatsoever. Thanks Greg for the reply. and Thank you for your videos.
I'm looking at AVKANS NDI Cameras for upgrade. I've read they are exact copies of PTZoptics and have good support. Will find out when I save up enough. Around $550 for 20x NDI and $800+ for 30x NDI with motion tracking.