NEW Yaesu FTdx10 Hybrid SDR Ham Radio Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2020
- Today we take a look at the interesting freatures on the Yaesu FTdx-10 and I give you my review. Also, I explain why the FTdx-10 is a Hybrid Software Defined Radio.
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Array, Array, Array. Sorry, miffed that accronym. FPGA: Field Programable Gate Array :D
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You beat me to it. "Array" hip hip "Array" lol.
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It made it to spot 3 on Sherwood. This is one of the best receivers available.
Pretty 'dog-gone dog if you ask me.
Well, thank you. Possibly the best Radio review I’ve ever watched. I appreciate you taking time over the filtering capabilities and teaching me things along the way. Great video Josh. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Owned one for 2 weeks now, and I'm still finding cool features! Receiver is hot as hell, Tx. audio processing and EQ are great additions.
Ordered the optional digital wiring harness, hooked up my Easy Digi, loaded Fldigi, and was making QSO's within 30 min.
Great engineering,Yaesu!
FT-DX10 is a amazing feature packed radio. I don't even use my IC-7300 anymore. Going to sell it.
Thank you for actually getting to know the radio before posting a review. Nice job of presenting things we want to know!
Thanks for watching!
I would like to hear the cw, I haven't seen any reviews on listening to the cw yet. Can you do one ?
Field Programmable Gate ARRAY !! Oops😮
Been off air for 18 years and I'm buying this with my stimulus money. A couple of my ham friends are happy that we will be hanging out on the air again like back in the day.
This review was fantastic! Thanks Josh! I just received my FTDX-10 today and I’m playing your video again while I play around with the settings. Awesome stuff!
Glad I could help!
This rig has a lot of good wins going for it. The hybrid front end is awesome in strong signal conditions, you get the SDR/DSP benefits with the benefits of a superhet front end.
The rig (if the manual is correct) allows for 0-4kHz transmit width, and 3 band parametric EQ as well as three ways to feed audio, mic jack, RTTY/Data line level and USB for digital path. These are all great features for people who like to work on their audio.
The EQ has two settings per mode, so AM and SSB can have two separate audio setups each, you can set up one way for quiet conditions and another for DX/noisy conditions...easily toggled.
The receive audio appears to be good and wide as well, another big bonus for those who like ESSB.
The receiver itself seems to measure up very close to the 101 series which is very impressive at the price point. If Flex hadn't doped the evaluation with Sherwood, this would be the #2 rig on the list right now. Incredible value for the price.
The external monitor display connection is another differentiator for the price. Yaesu did a great job with this one.
Nice coverage Josh! I really like the contour and notch graphic representation so you can see where in the passband you are effecting the sound.
Great job. Best overview of the ftdx10 that i have found !
Number 3 Sherwood baby! I sold my K3 and got this and am very happy. That’s high praise. The 7300 is great but can’t handle the signals this can. :)
Excellent review Josh thank you, looks like a good rig.
This is the best demo of the 3DSS that I have seen anywhere on the interwebs. You make it look actually appealing.
Really nice rig, with a lot of functions for that cost. My first HF rig was a preowned ft-991. Love it. Connected to an SDRPlay and controlled via Omnirig. I was considering the IC-7300, but got the ft-991 for $700 with box everything. Too good to pass up.
And wow...5 or 6 on the DNR. I rarely ever go above 4, mainly set to 3
The main problem with going straight from antenna to A/D conversion (Analog to Digital) is ALIASING. Suppose the sample rate is 1 million samples per second, and coming down the wire is a 1.1 megahertz signal. It's waves *almost* synchronize with the sample rate of the A/D converter, such that at each sampling, we are a bit farther along in the cycle of the signal. To the A/D converter, it is a 100 kilohertz signal absolutely indistinguishable from a real 100 kilohertz signal.
It is similar to a double-balanced mixer in a conventional receiver, but instead of sum and difference frequencies, you get only difference.
So you MUST have some sort of filter in front of the A/D converter to prevent aliasing. Because of potential for strong signal overload it helps to have bandpass filters, not just a lowpass filter. This is particularly true for high powered possibly nearby AM broadcast stations. To have them hit the A/D converter would be ungood for your desired signal.
Love my 101MP. I ran a 7300 for a year or so and it is a great bang-for-the-buck radio. But after using the 101 for a couple of months, I am a big believer in the hybrid approach, at least how it is implemented in the 101. If the 10 is anywhere near the same performance, it'll be my backup/portable choice for a 100W radio, ymmv. The audio on the 101 is non-fatiguing (contour control FTW) and the stock mic gets great audio reports. Agree that most modern radios are very good, but there are differences in both operating ergonomics and rx/tx performance.
FT710 out August 2022, that'd be 3wks time or so
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I use a K3S in my shack, have been not active for 4 years nw, I was looking for radio to use in my camper, It will be a Ftdx10!
Thanks for the video. Good stuff here. I just got my hands on the FTdx10 today. So far I relly like it and found it fairly easy so far but I need to de a deep dive on the menus. I started my HF adventure with a Kenwood TS590SG which is a great radio but I wanted something with a scope and this is what I decided I wanted. Love it.
Thank you, nice job. I like it, it has a nice quality to the audio. I run a 991A and a 6600 currently. It's been almost 2 years and the hybrids are still out there apparently :)
I’m new to all things Ham and studying for my Tech exam. I can truly say I didn’t understand much of this review! 😁
Better buy a Pro510 buddy.... Ill be on Ch 21..........
3d spectrum: I can now admire my abysmal QTH noise in the time domain
somehow reminds me of TRON
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Yeah but you can give it a haircut when you get too much of it!
Still getting LOLz from that 1 year+ later! HIHI de K9SPY
I remember my dad taking a chance and buying a hybrid radio, and it was probably one of the best selling radios of all times. Yes it was another Yaesu radio in which I still have. I am talking about the Yaesu FT 101 series, which I have the E model. LOL I just actually bought the FTX 10, I am waiting for it to come in.
Josh! Thank you for the “Alien/Nostromo” reference! I just bought one of these - my first HF radio - very excited to ‘reach out’
Thsnks for the tip on using the attenuator in combination with a preamp on 40m BTW. That's something I never thought of trying on my FT-891. Fun times tonight when the QRM noise floor climbs, seeing if various things help me to hear people. I'll definitely try this.
Nice review Josh. That tuning thing was a bit weird! Read the manual is great advice. In these modern radios there are often 'easter eggs' we miss!
It’s OK Josh… We all make mistakes. You did a good job here. It will be interesting to see what the actual bench test numbers are for this radio. Happy new year.
The Icom IC-7300 and the Yaesu FTDX10 are not in the same category. Several people sold Their IC-7300 here in Europe. On a very busy band, the IC-7300 suffers from front-end overloading. So for heavy dxing and contesting, the radio is no good. QRM fighting is the solution. That's why the hybrid technology is used in those new Yaesu radio's
All i can say is i love my Ftdx10. Its brought anew dimension to the hobby for me. Afterall i nearlly quit ham radio. But with Ft 1200 and Ftdx 10 am back with a bang. Cheers for videos. 73s
Very nice. Glad you’re back in!
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Cheers for reply.
As always a great review. Considering a IC-7300 or this FTdx10 as a new radio. I am an ICOM fan but might go Yaesu this time. BTW had G90 troubles at Field Day. Froze on FT8 on 40m band and although it was still working, no controls would work. Factory reset and cool down fixed it. K5FIT
Oh man...just got this radio today. I have to admit, it is remarkably better than the 991. Dont get me wrong, love the 991, and it is in my lineup...but the noise reduction ability of the dx10 is unbelievable. My wife is not easily impressed, and she was blown away. She was impressed with the Heil PRAS on the 991, but the dx10 literally took a signal from white noise to nothing but the tx. Really impressive
Hi, do you recommend the dx10 over the 991 for my first rig? I like that the 991 has VHF and UHF, but not sure if I want an all in one that's good, or a radio that does HF very good. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated!
@@markgutierrez9295 ….really depends on what you do with your radios. If you spend any significant portion on HF, then the dx10 is definitely a better setup, by far. If you want a good all around radio that is very versatile, then it’s tough to beat the 991. I actually only use my 991 for 2m 70cm. Which is really a shame in a way, but I already had it before the dx10 and I like having an hf backup. Both are great radios, so I would just consider what you want out of it.
I'm with you on the VFO knob, Josh. In my youth as an SWL I bought a used, consignment Kenwood R-1000 receiver (which to this day I wish I'd kept instead of selling it when I upgraded to an R-5000) and I loved the flywheel effect of its VFO. Give it a fast spin and let go and it would keep on spinning for two or three seconds. It was a great way to jump from the bottom to the top of a band in a hurry. 73.
Great video as usual!!! For new owners that need or want a really great tutorial on the FTDX10 try the series that N4HNH has on RUclips. Once again, great video.
Looks quite nice, thanks for the review...better check the linear output that keys the the amp though. I have an FT-991A I bought a year ago and the amp keying output was shorted to ground right out of the box. Did not know it until I recently purchased an amp. Factory says 5 weeks turn around on the repair after they receive the rig. I do love the FT-991 though. Nice radio.
HI,good video, well explained, it seems to be a top notch radio, thanks from Rotterdam.
Hi Josh, I was at HRO Anaheim last Saturday (field day weekend) and Rob did head to head for me with the 7300, FtDX-10, and FTDX 101D. All sounded great but yes the 101D did work great. Think the FTDX-10 would work for me but think going to save money and when Christmas comes around get 101D.
Working on upgrading my antenna system in the meantime; been using 757GX2 for 30 years.
Thanks for reviews.
Watch out for Rob. He’ll get you 🤣
This is a beautiful radio. It will be my next radio. Greetings from Ontario , Canada VE3NCV
Hi nice, video review, radio looks awesome and looks easy to use.
I wonder what your top 20 radio list is?
Two years into ownership of this rig (thanks to Josh and N4HNH) and I couldn't be more pleased. Best radio money I've ever spent.
Could you please help me with something. I have been searching everywhere to see if the ftdx 10 has the VC tuner in it like ftdx 101D has. It is the VC-tuner that makes the 101D so fabulous and everybody wants it. They say the little brother 10 edition it’s also good at tuning in a station I cannot find any picture that shows the VC-tuner on the ftdx 10 Version. Do you know anything about this could you help me please
One antenna out - no problem, most/many of us use antenna switches already.
Sometime in the last few days I saw a pdf on the ARRL ranking of receiver performance and they also rank the Yaesu FTDX101 top place - (wish I had downloaded it, can't find it now) so I assume it will be like the 7300/7610 thing with the DX10 being very much along the DX101 performance ranking.
For those that diss the hybrid SDR concept, please note that the upcoming Elecraft K4 in its highest form will use the same idea for highest performance, and this FTDX10 is dramatically less expensive.
Thanks for the great overview, much more real useful info than those I have seen up to this time!
My next rig was going to be a Flex 6400, but this may replace that idea.
How did i miss this??
Watching replay now!
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I like what you did with turning the waterfall white :) I cant wait to play with one!!!
I would buy it too,it's for my backup /standby radio as a third radio in the shack.
Great video upload !! Good information !! Very soon i go work with this beautifull Transciver !!
Thank you for share your information
Best 73's
What was the device that you put on the top of the transceiver when you were talking about the roofing filter. It has about three green lights on it. Is that some type of roofing filter itself
Just posted 3d on the Sherwood list!
when using this radio with an acom 1010 what settings do you have to enable on the radio or is it just plug and play?
@Ham radio crash course great content on the FT-10 great little radio
DNF adds a fair bit of distortion on mine. The NB also does. The DNR works pretty good up to setting 3 or 4.
K3 killer, that's for sure. And I have to give Yaesu credit for having the guts to give this radio a performance that is VERY close to the FTdx101!
Thank you for the review. I've had my ticket for a while, but just rekindled my interest in the hobby a year and a half ago and upgraded my ticket almost a year ago. I've eased into HF right after that, only using phone, no other modes.
I'm looking to drop some coin on a new HF rig and checking out the current race between the 7300 & FTDX10. My question is, does the radio have capability of being controlled by an actual computer, OR, is it just hooking a monitor and keyboard to the back of the radio? If control is capable of a computer, is it worth it? What's options are required?
Thanks again for posting the review/info!
I really enjoy your reviews, my question is what rigs(mobile, base and HT and with what antenna's.) do you run on a normal basis?
Thank you. You intro into explaining what a Hybrid SDR is bascially tells me that I would not want a Hybrid.
So just give me the Icom 7300.
Very nicely explained... good job. congratulations
That looks like a pretty sweet radio. Then again most do, compared to my IC718 🤣 great review!
The FT-DX10 is sort of a competitor to the IC-7300.
I like the 3D water fall. You can see the sample reflections over space.
How is it on CW? How loud, if any, does the relay sound in QSK mode?
Great review, thanks!
I presume the usb can also be used to connect to a computer for FT8 and other digital modes?
Pull the knob off, drill holes in its backside, glue in lead fishing weights. It should then spin longer as a function of its momentum.
For one of your future vids, how about a test? Which is better, SWR power meter or RF ammeter (tune for max smoke)??? cheers, Keith
Can't wait!!!
Do you have to use that display, or can you switch to the typical waterfall like the Icom's Kenwood etc .....
You didn’t watch the video did you?
I am putting together my shopping list, which includes this radio. I would like to put Anderson powerpole connectors on the end of the included power cord. Do you know what gauge wire this is? I want to make sure I order the right receiving barrels. Thanks.
Great idea, get the 30 amp power poles and a proper crimper.
Hi Josh, FPGA is Field Programmable Gate Array. I'd be interested if someone can find a photo of the circuitry from the DX10. I know definitely that the Icom 705 uses a Texas Instruments TMS320C55 Digital Signal Processor and most of the other Icom radios do too. Be interesting to know what Yeasu are using? Excellent review. Still prefer the interface on Icoms.
Hello Josh awesome looking radio wow what's next for the future love this video I'm sharing sharing sharing 🖐️🇺🇸💖👍
Thanks for the video. To reduce flicker, you might try a neutral density filter on the camera lens to increase exposure time.
this one is interesting. I have the Icom 7300 I wonder is there is a difference. I also have a kenwood 590 but when I first started I a 45o yaesu
Thank you for the Alien reference. Now I have to buy this for my daughter Ripley's sake.
Great video very informative.
Thank you for info.
just pulled the trigger. after years of thinking about radio, i just now amazoned a baofeng uv5. i know nothign at the moment
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I have an off-center fed dipole 30 feet above ground.
My neighbor gave me 2 satellite dishes.
Can I use them in some fashion to add gain? KE8PMM
The dishes won’t do anything for your ocf dipole. Save the dishes for maybe doing Arden in the future though.
This has been very helpful, thank you. BTW... Number 3 on Sherwood. Wow! [33:52 Did you really say "Haitch Tee"??? :-)]
how much more effective is the DNR compared to the DNR in the Yaesu FT891 ?
i wanto switch on the preamplifier on 20m and then use the DNR to lower the noise level, to hear the weak DX signals, can the FTDX10 do that better than the FT891 ?
not that i spend like three times the price for a FT891 on a FTDX10 and then the DNR isnt significantly better.
The DNR is significantly better.
Bravo Zulu! Good vid. Thanks! es 73 de N5XS
I remember when a Hybrid Transceiver was a "solid state" transceiver that had "tube finals"..
Hahah. Yes.
Amazing review
Great review. Thank you very much. A lot to lole here but I dont care too much for their version of a waterfall.
Sherwood also has information on attenuator in the menu.
I am all for the front-end filtering. I’ve seen how good Yaesu did with the filters in the FT-847 after putting an SDR Play tap in it. There’s no reason for any receiver to have a huge amount of spectrum feeding it, unless you need the bandwidth for a particular mode or using multiple receivers/tuners, as you can do with the SDR software. But if I’m using the radio to work a 3KHz or narrower signal, I don’t need my front-end exposed to much more than that. I believe the 101 has a tuning variable front-end, but I might be wrong. Having the front-end filtered prevents desensitization, compression, intermod and the like when a strong signal shows up in its passband. That’s not desirable when you have a neighbor, or working field day! Despite the headroom on the SDR, just look what invoking the high-pass filter for blocking AM broadcast, or the stop band filter for FM does to the noise floor of your SDR. This is the same principle. I’m not so much worried about the loss in the filtering, but rather the induced noise. Yaesu knows what they are doing, and I’ll bet the specifications will show it to be very good.
I have my FT-847 set up remotely. The VHF/UHF antenna is 420’ above ground. I work people simplex every day 60+ miles from me with 25 watts out of the transmitter and no preamp on the receiver. In the Chicago suburbs, I get no Intermod on VHF at all, and only occasionally on UHF. Whenever I get out of the ham bands and into the general coverage wideband filtering, the intermod is terrible because of the broadness of the filter.
I’m sure impressed with this new rig, and bring a proud owner of an IC-7300, I can’t wait to get one of these! I love the interconnections, especially the external DVI monitor. Though, they should have made that HDMI, but I can convert! I’m also a fan of the 3D screen, it reminds me of the SETI project software!
Blocking AM and FM from getting to any sdr dongle makes a huge difference like day and night! Yaesu figured it right with ftdx10 and ftdx101
What is the current draw on TX at full power?
Josh in a conventional SDR radio the input to the a/d cannot handle all of the signals that it often sees simultaneously especially since some of those levels can be very high. This causes intermod and overload. Superhet prior to the input is desirable especially as the sunspot cycle improves and additionally large antennas can really cause too much signal level.
It is a proven fact that reducing unwanted energy to the input of any sdr is the desirable way. The best receiver in my Shack uses this scheme as well and is by far the most amazing. During a contest where bands are packed with hundreds of very adjacent high level signals one often hears splatter which we often blame on the "other guy" I can tell you that I have proven that more often then not, this splatter is caused by overload and subsequently intermod at the a/d receiver input.
The radio of preference in my Shack does have low mixer noise, high dynamic range mixer, then SDR and then consequently less chance of overload. I can tell you the difference is huge. The benchmark model I am referring to is the Rohde & Schwarz XK4100. In summary it is always better to have a Superhet scheme before the a/d. Please have a look at my antennas on qrz in order to understand what does not work well under my conditions. My flex and 7300 require constant attenuation, many other radios that you wouldn't expect as well have trouble during crowded bands at my site. Feel free to contact me directly, I look forward to hearing from you. 73 Howard VE2AED
Does the FTDX10 have the ability to define lower AND upper band edge limits? Thanks
Would you say this is a better radio than the ftdx 5000mp as maybe thinking of trading mine in for one of these?? Happy new year n thanks for all your hard work and help throughout 2020
Andy, I have the 5000MP and am currently awaiting delivery of the DX-101MP. But the 5000MP is not going anywhere. I am using an LP-Pan 2 pan adapter with the 5000 to give me on screen signals, waterfall and point and click functionality. If you don't need the 2nd receiver or the extra power, then maybe the DX-10 is for you. One thing I love about the 5000 is everything I need to do is right in front of me. No menus. I'm not counting the 1 time set it and forget it menus.
I don't see normal SSB AVG power even close with 100 watts :-( the same problem as in TS590s?
Surely no 100w transceiver will do 100w average the 100w rating is peak so should reach 100w on the peaks using a peak meter not average, cheers
Hello.well Thankyou for the how to on this radio. It explains Alot of questions I had. Once again thanks. Ron. Z. Pgh. Pa.
It's impossible to process DSP data fast enough at HF frequencies in real time in an SDR. While DSP processors have gotten faster, we're still not there yet. So direct sampling SDR's perform a down conversion to a lower frequency (data rate) in an FPGA in the digital domain. Analog devices did sell a dedicated device that performed this function. This is the equal to an analog mixer and local oscillator. Hybrid SDA's (narrow band width ) perform this down conversion in the analog domain. Depending on the actual sampling rate in the A/D conversion before the DSP processor, we may have several mixers and roofing filters (45mhz, 9mhz, 455khz) with possibly a stage of up conversion in the analog chain. So is a conventional superhet receiver with a final IF in the digital domain a hybrid SDR, or just a DSP filtered radio? I'd say that if the actual demodulation, is performed in the digital domain, along with bandwidth filtering, and possibly visual display of some of the spectrum above and below the received signal, then it is an SDR of some form.
i have a 7300 and just bought this yaesu ftdx 10 and to be honest i love it the receive is amazing compared to the 7300 mind you i would love to try the yaesu ftdx 101 just to see what its like 73
Great Video!! Thank you!!
Do you see yourself doing a direct comparison of the FT-DX10 and the IC-7300.
I'm very much on the fence about these two radios.
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Can’t compare a hi end receiver to a mid level Rx Robert. The 7300 is great low cost SDR but you won’t pull you contact away from a 1k spaced signal. This dx10 will separate those adjoining signal and give you ability to hear. Listen to the 7300 in a contest environment. You ll give up and move on or just won’t pull the signal out. Noise on 7300 in suburbs is s7 on this rig will be s3/4 on the same antenna. Imho 😉 KC3ONO
@@kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953 Thank you Kevin: With the bands getting crowded, being able to separate signals becomes imperative. My primary interest is to set up a Pactor/VaraFM station for Hurricane preparedness using WinLink.
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Hi, Please help me ... I will buy a new radio and I am in doubt which one to choose ??? Kenwood ts 890 or Icom 7610 ??? yaesu ftdx 101mp can you help me with the opinion on which one is best ??? thanks 73 mas 51
Carlos, it depends on what your preferred mode of operation is. Do you do mostly CW ? mostly SSB? mostly digital? You can waste a lot of money if you get a radio that has much more capability than you really need.
One of the best reviews on RUclips, excellent work, THANK YOU ! 👍
Greetings from France.
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Its cool, but is it worth $700 more than the Icom 7300 behind him?
Have you tried setting the Contour to a positive value instead of a negative or dip? The contour should operate like that on the FTDX3000, where setting it to a positive value raises the target signal out of the noise rather than suppressing it with a negative value. I'm wondering if the FTDX10D will be the direct replacement for the FTDX3000. Pricing is about the same. Just wish they put at least 2 antenna ports on this one. I love the 3 ports on my 3000. 73 and thank you for the thorough review. de W3KKO
Would this be good for on my boat. I want to cross the Atlantic and see if it would work well. Curious enough about your opinion
No. The salt in the air would wreck havoc on it. Use a marine radio please.
Likewise, I have a FTdx-101MP sitting right next to a near perfect, but almost 30 year old, FT-1000. I think the FTdx-10 might be for the person who would buy a 991A but is and wants a better HF receiver and doesn't mind not 2M and 70CM in the same box. That would describe me as I have an FT-897A (that's going to get sold) and have never used its 2M or 70cm capabilities. The FTdx10 and 991A are about the same size and I'm thinking of doing a POTA activation or 2 with it.
I've had this a week and didn't know about the friction control. Would help if i read the manual! Hi! - thanks, you got a sub
Awesome, thank you!
#3 on the Sherwood Report, Josh. This radio is the Real Deal.
The limitation is not signal loss prior to digitisation - the limitation (and the reason you don't have an ADC connected to the antenna) is the limited SFDR in a wideband, high samplerate ADC.
The amount of spurs would make for a bad system - that's one of the main reasons to still use an analog RF and IF. Moreover, for HF bands no more than a few 100kHz BW is needed if you wanted to digitise the entire band for spectrum monitoring.
is it okay to put a bandpass filter in front of the RF amp? how about noise level?
if you put a filter in front of an rf amp, the filter's insertion loss (say 2dB) will add directly to the noise figure of the front-end chain.
@@j.p.wagner6461 Yes. that is why I was surprised at such a circuit design in a modern transceiver. I am developing of LNA for the VHF UHF bands and therefore I care about every dB :D. Apparently on short waves it is not so important?
Looks like sherwood added it to their website. Looks solid to me, but I am an amateur!
How many hours have you used the radio....