I'm not in this category of club. I play the 718 AP1s and that's where I belong. Regardless, I watched this video from start to finish simply because I appreciate the knowledge you share with us. Keep the videos coming fellas. You all are the best on the net and gear heads like myself truly appreciate what you do.
I went out on a limb and ordered these 785's without ever hitting or seeing Srixon irons in person before. I watched your guys first review of them and ordered them right away in a shaft I like. Needless to say I LOVE them. Played the p770's last year and these are bar none the nicest irons I've ever played. Ordered the 585 in my 4-5 iron and man are they sweet as well. Sounds like a fire cracker goes off when you hit them. Makes your good strikes feel extra powerful. I highly recommend Srixon iron to anyone looking at a new forged players set of irons. I'm a 6 Handicap and they are perfect for me
Your explanation of sole width and turf interaction explains a lot as to why I always felt I hit my old Titleist Tour blades better than AP2s. Even with the higher lofts in the blades. I wish more fitters recognized this. I may have to take a look at the new Srixon.
Agreed. I've hit AP1 and AP3 before. They were ok for me, but for some reason I hit them thin or a little low in the face, almost all the time. I went to an old Titleist 735.cm combo set with CB 3i-7i and blade short irons and hit them further and cleaner, loft for loft. I am shallow and my miss on the ball is front to back - mainly hitting fat. I can't flush a wide sole such is my inconsistent ball striking. Even though I am far from elite, I somehow hit these heavy stiff shafted thin forged irons better than anything I've tried before.
I got fitted for these 2 weeks ago. They beat out Muira CB, Taylormade P760's, Callaway Apex Pro, Titleist CB, and Mizuno MP-18 SC's in feel and performance for me. Absolutely love these!
I hit the 919 Tour, P760, AP1, 919 Forged, Apex Pro and the MP18 SC/MMC. The SC/MMC ended up performing the best for me, but Mizuno stopped taking special orders for the MMC as I was fit into the DGX100 120G with Mizuno's shaft optimizer. I had previously bought 790's, but saw it was hard to hold greens with that type of shaft. My fitter picked out the 785's for the last part of my fitting, and they by far felt better and performed better then all of the clubs noted above. I can't wait for them to come in. Only regret is, I wish I would've hit the 585's for potentially having them as my 4 and 5 iron.
I game a set of z785 with modus 120s. 5-PW. Love them. Great turf interaction, ball speed and feel. I think they are one of the best feeling forged irons. Tick ever box. Previously played mp 32 and 18 Apex MB.
I have had both these irons and would definitely say the 785 is a improvement especially in turf interaction think I will be keeping 785 for a good while Another good video
I have a set of 765's being delivered today, bought online as no fitting available within a 100 miles, fingers crossed they perform as good as they look.
Was waiting for your review on new Srixon'sI have combo set ZU65 3 / Z565 4-6 / Z765 7-AW. Really like the look of new irons, but I think as play in usually softer turf conditions in Scotland, and in mid 50's,the slightly wider sole in 765 series will fair me better.Once again excellent review
I like how Srixon and Mizuno have really intentionally made blended sets. I have a Mizuno blended set of MP-18s. Love them and 2nd choice was a blended Srixon set.
I have the 745 irons. I was so excited to try the 765s, then so disappointed at the size of the head as it was bigger around the toe. Srixon seem to have returned to the smaller 745 size head with the 785s. I have tried so many irons, but so far I haven't found anything to replace my 745s, but the look of the 2019 Z Forged blade......WOW!!!
Funny I never go into golf shops but happened to go into one yesterday to get my putter adjusted and looked at these while I was waiting and absolutely loved the look and that sole shape.
Just grabbed Z585/Z785 combo and the things you described I'm seeing....the feel is BRILLIANT and I've had gen one pxg 0311Ts..... I'm beyond content with Z785 !
Great comparison. This is exactly what I'd be interested in when trying to decide if I was going to replace the older model with the newer model. Ditto on other comment to compare 565 and 585.It would be interesting to hear if Al sees/feels a difference between them.
Great content. Tried out Srixon during a fitting a couple years ago, but was put in Titleist 716 AP2s which seem to work and be popular. Keep up the great work, really enjoying the channel!
I have the 565-765 combo set and absolutely love them. I think its gonna take years and something amazing to get me to change. They're pretty much the perfect iron imo
Agree on the comments about 919. Have tried all 3 - Hot Metal took me a while to get used to but is impressive, Forged is the straightest iron I have ever hit but biggest surprise was the Tour. I am not the quality of player it is aimed at (sadly) but it is so easy to hit. Very difficult to find Srixon stockists here in the UK
Boy oh boy those 785s look almost identical to my current MP-53s! Ive been looking for new irons and these might perfectly fit the bill! Would love to see a comparison of old vs new here. Thanks guys!
Just ordered the 585’s currently play off 12, was hoping for the 785’s but the fitter recommended I went with the 585’s. Time will tell but looking forward to getting them
Another awesome video! I would like to see a comparison with the Z785 and the Z965 blades. During my fitting I tried the 965’s, 765’s, 545’s and the Mizuno MP18 range and surprisingly got the best results with the Z965 blades. Would like to see some numbers to maybe show why this was the case for me!
765's are great, I'll upgrade them when they're worn out, 785's look great too, they are just slightly more refined but I won't put new ones in the bag until I have a good reason too
Very interesting. I just switched from a Z765 / Z965 combo to a Z785 4 - P set, and I find the new Z785’s softer at impact, smaller blade like look, more forgiving and easier to hit high shots with. I think Srixon took the best of both Worlds, and created a fusion of 765 forgiving, with a look, feel and shot shape ability of the 965...
For me the Srixon Z785 were in the mix for my new irons but with the Miazaki and the Recoil 785 both in stiff the flight was very high. I have to go to new irons because graphite is better for my joints but the Z785 head didn’t work well for me with the two graphite shafts that were available . But the Z785 was a very good looking iron, supersoft feeling and very very very easy to hit... a pity that here in the Netherlands there isn’t a fitting facility like yours with 50-50 graphite-steel iron shafts because with the right shaft the Z785 would have been a great new iron. Now MP18 with recoil 95 F4 or Project X LZ tour graphite 6.0
Looks like a set of lefty 765s with Modus 120TX shafts are going to be for sale in the GTA. Thanks for another great video. Would love to see a side by side review by Matt of the 785 and the soon to be released "forged" blade model (formerly the 9xx series)!
As a Z765 #5 - PW user, I have no urgency to go out and get a set a new set, stayed with ZU65 #3 and #4, as I couldn't see the price to upgrade a big change to my golf game....
Yes I am interested in the Z585’s also please do a comparison with the 565’s I hit the 585’s best Club I have it want to see if it is worth the difference now with the 565’s so inexpensive now thanks.
Great video! I would love to see Z545 vs Z585 because most of us steep players didn’t switch at the Z565 because they were so similar. As you both talk about shallow swings on the 785 benefiting you both think about if the 585 will benefit us 545 players want to switch because we waited a few years (4)but is it worth the switch?
As a 2-3 handicap with strengths in iron play I can't recommend 785's enough! It was a little leap of faith coming from the P770 but I'm getting more reliable distance and I can actually consistently fade the ball to target when I need to with the Z785's (naturally a slight draw player). However, I would highly recommend testing the long irons. My 5i-4i gap tightened just a little bit when I switched from the P770. Unfortunately I'm a lefty so there's never a full set to test anywhere. But if you're a righty, give the 585 long irons a try! I'm probably going to buy a 585 4i soon just to see what happens.... #lefthandedgolfdiaries
Fellas, would love to see a vid of the Z785s vs P760s vs some older player CB such as Miura 202's, etc. Basically modern player CB vs "technology" packed player CB vs old school zero tech CB. Needless to say, great video as always.
Curious about the spin numbers in the video for a six iron. Most fitting education I’ve received is to strive for the 1,000 equivalent to the iron (eg 6,000 rpm for six iron). Granted this slightly changes based on modern lofts, but I’m curious what spin numbers we should be striving for in a fitting given loft, launch, ball speed, decent angle, etc. Any chart I’ve seen online is either outdated (re Trackman) or incomplete. Keep up the great work fellas. Top notch content!
Agree the spin seems a little low and it has done in other tests I've watched with the Srixons. The peak height and descent mean it will stop but I'd worry about flier lies. Is it just the shaft you've got in there dragging in down?
I have the same irons & do find them to be quite low spin. I believe they're a hair stronger than traditional lofts which maybe nudges the spin down slightly
Great info again guys! Just bought the 785’s and am excited for spring to arrive. I’m curious to know how to find the aggregate bounce on Srixon’s V sole irons?
It would be good seeing Al test the 585 . I recently got a set with Modus 105. They are the best feeling iron I tried. Turf interaction is great and the ball flight is high. Night and day difference compared to my AP2’s
Great Review. If it's not too much trouble could you please do a comparison between the Srixon 585s and the Mizuno JPX 919 Forged. I've been looking at both irons and would like to hear your thoughts.
The heel section of the z785 sole looks more narrow. I own the 765's and love them, but they have a tendency to go left ( right handed player). I've noticed this is some of the reviews, and with friends that also play these irons. Even offsetting this tendency with lower lie angel, it still loves turning over (my path hovers near zero). Whats your thoughts on this sole refinement around the hosel, did you see some of these tendencies in the older z765? Almost like the heel grabs a bit and wants to shut the face down.
I was not completely happy with my 765's.. They went left compared to my Bridgestone j40's. I'm wondering if these have less offset?🤔 I like the idea they are less bulky, which would be more similar to the j40's.
The look reminds me of mizuno which is a good enough reason for me to give em a try. Cleveland still owns Srixon don’t they? Do you know if they’re forged in Japan?
Good review but "Turf Interaction" when your club head speed with a 6 iron is around 100 MPH on indoor turf makes that a bit hard to comprehend. Do you think hitting off mats or indoor turf affects spin compared to grass?
Hi guys! love the videos, so glad i found this channel! Been playing for just over one year now and got the HC to 12 using a borrowed set of mizuno JPX800 with stiff steel shafts. I've just decided to invest in a fitting in Scotland up at Archerfield performance center. My question is what i should be asking my fitter to get me hitting higher spin and apex shots. My irons at the moment have a low piercing trajectory which make it difficult for me to hold greens from distance on my home course in Spain. Numbers with 5 iron, 85mph, 165 carry, 5100rpm, with a 55ft apex. I do have a pretty steep angle of attack a -5 degree due to a little bit of forward sway. Any help would be appreciated! Subscribed and recommended to a few golfer friends!
I have tried a few Srixon irons, but not loving the feel from it. I like the feel of Mizuno hot metal the most of all irons. (except for TM P series, have not try them yet) Oh how I wish you could test out Japanese irons like Honma TW, Bridgestone, Fourteen. It would be great to hear your thoughts on them. Great videos.
I am a little confused by the turf interaction comments. As I understand (from another one of your guys' great videos) it you don't really enter the turf until 3-4" after hitting the ball and the ball is only in contact with the club face for milliseconds. That being said, could you explain how the width of the sole and turf interaction has anything to do with shallow -vs- steep and contact?
I can see that on an outright chunk but I don’t think you’d maintain that kind of ball speed on that strike. Also, Matty (I think we can cal him that) mentioned that he felt the wider sole may have cause him to turn it over more, which adds more confusion to this topic. I’m thinking it’s more to do with weight distribution heel to toe. Good chance to use the new tech and map this iron head!! It would be cool to see high speed camera setup in conjunction with everything else.
I gamed a set of Z765. Really no comparison to Mizuno's equivalent. Not as soft and no longer. Went back to Mizuno for the feel. Wish you guys did more Mizuno iron videos!
Would love to win a custom fit set of the 785s. Would go nicely with my g400 max I was recently fit for. Have you guys made the draw for the set of srixon/Clevelands yet?
I am in the market for new irons this year. Lots of great options out there, almost too many. Did Ian say that these irons would be comparable to the Mizuno 919 forged? These look more "Player like" than the 919 in my opinion, so I'm kind of surprised to hear that. If they play similarly I will definitely put these on the list to try, I love the look of these!
Nice review. So is Matt getting new irons? Subtle difference with respect to numbers, but more noticeable in terms of feel and contact. Nice insight of impact of sole width and turf interaction depending on whether your swing is shallow or steep.
Keep us updated. Would be nice if you could do a video on the more subtle influences on golf club selection from a fitters perspective e.g feel, quality of contact, tightness of dispersion, height, spin, predictability, etc.
Love the comparison guys 👍 I am considerinf upgrading from the Z545 to the Z785 as my swing has improved a lot since before I put the Z545 in my bag Do you think this could be a good decision? (I would be getting fit for them before any purchase) Thanks for the good info as always
So interesting how a good player like myself who isn't a great iron player, good but not great, would assume I need thicker bottom iron. However I am always shallow or thin & barely nick the turf. Could benefit with thinner bottom. Wish you guys had made it to Halifax a year ago like was showing promise. I'll try to make it when visiting back in Toronto visiting friends if possible
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I'm not in this category of club. I play the 718 AP1s and that's where I belong. Regardless, I watched this video from start to finish simply because I appreciate the knowledge you share with us. Keep the videos coming fellas. You all are the best on the net and gear heads like myself truly appreciate what you do.
I went out on a limb and ordered these 785's without ever hitting or seeing Srixon irons in person before. I watched your guys first review of them and ordered them right away in a shaft I like. Needless to say I LOVE them. Played the p770's last year and these are bar none the nicest irons I've ever played.
Ordered the 585 in my 4-5 iron and man are they sweet as well. Sounds like a fire cracker goes off when you hit them. Makes your good strikes feel extra powerful.
I highly recommend Srixon iron to anyone looking at a new forged players set of irons. I'm a 6 Handicap and they are perfect for me
Your explanation of sole width and turf interaction explains a lot as to why I always felt I hit my old Titleist Tour blades better than AP2s. Even with the higher lofts in the blades. I wish more fitters recognized this. I may have to take a look at the new Srixon.
Agreed. I've hit AP1 and AP3 before. They were ok for me, but for some reason I hit them thin or a little low in the face, almost all the time.
I went to an old Titleist 735.cm combo set with CB 3i-7i and blade short irons and hit them further and cleaner, loft for loft. I am shallow and my miss on the ball is front to back - mainly hitting fat. I can't flush a wide sole such is my inconsistent ball striking. Even though I am far from elite, I somehow hit these heavy stiff shafted thin forged irons better than anything I've tried before.
I got fitted for these 2 weeks ago. They beat out Muira CB, Taylormade P760's, Callaway Apex Pro, Titleist CB, and Mizuno MP-18 SC's in feel and performance for me.
Absolutely love these!
I hit the 919 Tour, P760, AP1, 919 Forged, Apex Pro and the MP18 SC/MMC. The SC/MMC ended up performing the best for me, but Mizuno stopped taking special orders for the MMC as I was fit into the DGX100 120G with Mizuno's shaft optimizer. I had previously bought 790's, but saw it was hard to hold greens with that type of shaft. My fitter picked out the 785's for the last part of my fitting, and they by far felt better and performed better then all of the clubs noted above. I can't wait for them to come in. Only regret is, I wish I would've hit the 585's for potentially having them as my 4 and 5 iron.
This is very relevant to me. Like Matt I just moved into Z765s and seeing the differences is great.
Been playing 745's since Srixon released them. Love these irons, and looking forward to trying the 785's. Fantastic video's. Keep them coming!
I game a set of z785 with modus 120s. 5-PW. Love them. Great turf interaction, ball speed and feel. I think they are one of the best feeling forged irons. Tick ever box. Previously played mp 32 and 18 Apex MB.
Love Al's new nickname "Captain shallow", I think that's a keeper. Hope Guys are enjoying Orlando!
I have had both these irons and would definitely say the 785 is a improvement especially in turf interaction think I will be keeping 785 for a good while
Another good video
Such a great swing Matt, and great info from Ian.
I have a set of 765's being delivered today, bought online as no fitting available within a 100 miles, fingers crossed they perform as good as they look.
Z785 is an absolute contender for me in 2020! Time to hang up the Titleist 990's that have been in play since 2001.
Was waiting for your review on new Srixon'sI have combo set ZU65 3 / Z565 4-6 / Z765 7-AW. Really like the look of new irons, but I think as play in usually softer turf conditions in Scotland, and in mid 50's,the slightly wider sole in 765 series will fair me better.Once again excellent review
I like how Srixon and Mizuno have really intentionally made blended sets. I have a Mizuno blended set of MP-18s. Love them and 2nd choice was a blended Srixon set.
I have the 745 irons. I was so excited to try the 765s, then so disappointed at the size of the head as it was bigger around the toe. Srixon seem to have returned to the smaller 745 size head with the 785s. I have tried so many irons, but so far I haven't found anything to replace my 745s, but the look of the 2019 Z Forged blade......WOW!!!
Funny I never go into golf shops but happened to go into one yesterday to get my putter adjusted and looked at these while I was waiting and absolutely loved the look and that sole shape.
Just grabbed Z585/Z785 combo and the things you described I'm seeing....the feel is BRILLIANT and I've had gen one pxg 0311Ts.....
I'm beyond content with Z785 !
Great comparison. This is exactly what I'd be interested in when trying to decide if I was going to replace the older model with the newer model. Ditto on other comment to compare 565 and 585.It would be interesting to hear if Al sees/feels a difference between them.
Great content. Tried out Srixon during a fitting a couple years ago, but was put in Titleist 716 AP2s which seem to work and be popular. Keep up the great work, really enjoying the channel!
765 7-P, 585 3-6, rtx 4 wedges, zstar ball......Absolute game changer for me!
I got my new set. Now I'm waiting for the winter to end in Philly area. Thanks for great info
I have the 565-765 combo set and absolutely love them. I think its gonna take years and something amazing to get me to change. They're pretty much the perfect iron imo
Agree on the comments about 919. Have tried all 3 - Hot Metal took me a while to get used to but is impressive, Forged is the straightest iron I have ever hit but biggest surprise was the Tour. I am not the quality of player it is aimed at (sadly) but it is so easy to hit. Very difficult to find Srixon stockists here in the UK
Boy oh boy those 785s look almost identical to my current MP-53s! Ive been looking for new irons and these might perfectly fit the bill! Would love to see a comparison of old vs new here. Thanks guys!
I always learn something new about club design with every video you make
Just ordered the 585’s currently play off 12, was hoping for the 785’s but the fitter recommended I went with the 585’s. Time will tell but looking forward to getting them
Love the new Srixon range. Those irons look beautiful. Shane Lowry is doing really well with his Sirxons too.
Another awesome video!
I would like to see a comparison with the Z785 and the Z965 blades. During my fitting I tried the 965’s, 765’s, 545’s and the Mizuno MP18 range and surprisingly got the best results with the Z965 blades. Would like to see some numbers to maybe show why this was the case for me!
Great job guys! I would love to see a comparison for us 8-15 handicappers between the Callaway CF19's and the Srixon Z585's, thanks!
A mixed set of Z585/785 are really tempting me this year! Looking forward to a Srixon iron fitting video starring Big Al
765's are great, I'll upgrade them when they're worn out, 785's look great too, they are just slightly more refined but I won't put new ones in the bag until I have a good reason too
I see a new set of Srixons for Mattie boy. Have to say they look really nice irons. Great swing as always Matt.
Havent tried them but look forward to it later this year.
Enjoyed the video. What about a video with the z785 and the 919 tour?
Keep up the good work
Brad Holomek played both for around a year each and the 919 are considerably less forgiving.
Can’t wait to try the new blades from Srixon!
Please do this with the 565s and 585s!!
l second this l want to see this also
Agee. Would love to see srixon 585 tested and talked about
I currently game the 565sd would be interested in the 585 comparisons as well. Looking forward to watching it!!!
Can't wait to hit these new ones. Look amazing. Another great video guys. Can't wait for footage from the PGA show next week
Very interesting. I just switched from a Z765 / Z965 combo to a Z785 4 - P set, and I find the new Z785’s softer at impact, smaller blade like look, more forgiving and easier to hit high shots with. I think Srixon took the best of both Worlds, and created a fusion of 765 forgiving, with a look, feel and shot shape ability of the 965...
For me the Srixon Z785 were in the mix for my new irons but with the Miazaki and the Recoil 785 both in stiff the flight was very high. I have to go to new irons because graphite is better for my joints but the Z785 head didn’t work well for me with the two graphite shafts that were available . But the Z785 was a very good looking iron, supersoft feeling and very very very easy to hit... a pity that here in the Netherlands there isn’t a fitting facility like yours with 50-50 graphite-steel iron shafts because with the right shaft the Z785 would have been a great new iron. Now MP18 with recoil 95 F4 or Project X LZ tour graphite 6.0
Life is short Matt!. Get the irons! Seriously.....and enjoy!!
Nothing subtle about a TXG video always something to learn, thanks for the upload.
Great video, love to see the comparison between the rest of the range. And maybe the mizuno range, standout products at the moment ( my opinion).
Looking forward to this 1
Wanted to love the 785s but Bridgestone JGR hf2s were clearly better. Feel so good. Give them a shot when testing.
Looks like a set of lefty 765s with Modus 120TX shafts are going to be for sale in the GTA.
Thanks for another great video. Would love to see a side by side review by Matt of the 785 and the soon to be released "forged" blade model (formerly the 9xx series)!
great video. really enjoy all of your content!
As a Z765 #5 - PW user, I have no urgency to go out and get a set a new set, stayed with ZU65 #3 and #4, as I couldn't see the price to upgrade a big change to my golf game....
Yes I am interested in the Z585’s also please do a comparison with the 565’s I hit the 585’s best Club I have it want to see if it is worth the difference now with the 565’s so inexpensive now thanks.
Was waiting for this review as I have 765's Thank you
Great video! I would love to see Z545 vs Z585 because most of us steep players didn’t switch at the Z565 because they were so similar. As you both talk about shallow swings on the 785 benefiting you both think about if the 585 will benefit us 545 players want to switch because we waited a few years (4)but is it worth the switch?
As a 2-3 handicap with strengths in iron play I can't recommend 785's enough! It was a little leap of faith coming from the P770 but I'm getting more reliable distance and I can actually consistently fade the ball to target when I need to with the Z785's (naturally a slight draw player).
However, I would highly recommend testing the long irons. My 5i-4i gap tightened just a little bit when I switched from the P770. Unfortunately I'm a lefty so there's never a full set to test anywhere. But if you're a righty, give the 585 long irons a try! I'm probably going to buy a 585 4i soon just to see what happens....
#lefthandedgolfdiaries
Fellas, would love to see a vid of the Z785s vs P760s vs some older player CB such as Miura 202's, etc. Basically modern player CB vs "technology" packed player CB vs old school zero tech CB. Needless to say, great video as always.
Curious about the spin numbers in the video for a six iron. Most fitting education I’ve received is to strive for the 1,000 equivalent to the iron (eg 6,000 rpm for six iron). Granted this slightly changes based on modern lofts, but I’m curious what spin numbers we should be striving for in a fitting given loft, launch, ball speed, decent angle, etc. Any chart I’ve seen online is either outdated (re Trackman) or incomplete. Keep up the great work fellas. Top notch content!
Agree the spin seems a little low and it has done in other tests I've watched with the Srixons. The peak height and descent mean it will stop but I'd worry about flier lies. Is it just the shaft you've got in there dragging in down?
I have the same irons & do find them to be quite low spin. I believe they're a hair stronger than traditional lofts which maybe nudges the spin down slightly
Too good for me but was fun to watch!! Maybe I can handle the Z585’s!!! Great video!
Great info again guys! Just bought the 785’s and am excited for spring to arrive.
I’m curious to know how to find the aggregate bounce on Srixon’s V sole irons?
Replaced my p790 with z765 . Night and day . 1st time for srixon and doubt i would every buy anything else in irons
I also compared the 785’s to my 765’s and noticed better ball speed(different shafts tho)
Can you do a video on handcrafted hzrdus shafts verses retail hzrdus shafts?
Great information. Srixon is really making a waves these days. It's funny how just putting out a good product helps =0
Just when I think you guys have touched on all the minuté details of the golf world, you introduce this sole information. 🤯
Would enjoy Al testing 585 vs 785 (heck even against the 919s). I’m close to his ss, and also shallow so curious for selfish reasons
It would be good seeing Al test the 585 . I recently got a set with Modus 105. They are the best feeling iron I tried. Turf interaction is great and the ball flight is high. Night and day difference compared to my AP2’s
Great Review. If it's not too much trouble could you please do a comparison between the Srixon 585s and the Mizuno JPX 919 Forged. I've been looking at both irons and would like to hear your thoughts.
The heel section of the z785 sole looks more narrow. I own the 765's and love them, but they have a tendency to go left ( right handed player). I've noticed this is some of the reviews, and with friends that also play these irons. Even offsetting this tendency with lower lie angel, it still loves turning over (my path hovers near zero). Whats your thoughts on this sole refinement around the hosel, did you see some of these tendencies in the older z765? Almost like the heel grabs a bit and wants to shut the face down.
@txg curious to see the z785 vs Z-Forged review
I was not completely happy with my 765's.. They went left compared to my Bridgestone j40's. I'm wondering if these have less offset?🤔
I like the idea they are less bulky, which would be more similar to the j40's.
The look reminds me of mizuno which is a good enough reason for me to give em a try. Cleveland still owns Srixon don’t they? Do you know if they’re forged in Japan?
Good review but "Turf Interaction" when your club head speed with a 6 iron is around 100 MPH on indoor turf makes that a bit hard to comprehend. Do you think hitting off mats or indoor turf affects spin compared to grass?
I currently play z745, in your opinion is it worth the upgrade to z785? so far i have loved my z745. I am considering the move.
745 better than 65, even 85 ... no doubt
Hi guys! love the videos, so glad i found this channel! Been playing for just over one year now and got the HC to 12 using a borrowed set of mizuno JPX800 with stiff steel shafts. I've just decided to invest in a fitting in Scotland up at Archerfield performance center. My question is what i should be asking my fitter to get me hitting higher spin and apex shots. My irons at the moment have a low piercing trajectory which make it difficult for me to hold greens from distance on my home course in Spain. Numbers with 5 iron, 85mph, 165 carry, 5100rpm, with a 55ft apex. I do have a pretty steep angle of attack a -5 degree due to a little bit of forward sway. Any help would be appreciated! Subscribed and recommended to a few golfer friends!
What is considered steep v flat for trying to find best sole design for my swing?
I have tried a few Srixon irons, but not loving the feel from it. I like the feel of Mizuno hot metal the most of all irons. (except for TM P series, have not try them yet)
Oh how I wish you could test out Japanese irons like Honma TW, Bridgestone, Fourteen. It would be great to hear your thoughts on them. Great videos.
They are all forged at the same plant ENDO in Japan, Hiroshima
I am a little confused by the turf interaction comments. As I understand (from another one of your guys' great videos) it you don't really enter the turf until 3-4" after hitting the ball and the ball is only in contact with the club face for milliseconds. That being said, could you explain how the width of the sole and turf interaction has anything to do with shallow -vs- steep and contact?
I think it's on fat strikes
I can see that on an outright chunk but I don’t think you’d maintain that kind of ball speed on that strike.
Also, Matty (I think we can cal him that) mentioned that he felt the wider sole may have cause him to turn it over more, which adds more confusion to this topic. I’m thinking it’s more to do with weight distribution heel to toe. Good chance to use the new tech and map this iron head!!
It would be cool to see high speed camera setup in conjunction with everything else.
Yah and less pronounced through real grass...I had a set of 765s that felt basically perfect through turf
Does that shaft adapter have an impact on the weight and feel of the club....it's quite prominent isn't it
the heads are modified to compensate for the added weight of the adapter
I gamed a set of Z765. Really no comparison to Mizuno's equivalent. Not as soft and no longer. Went back to Mizuno for the feel. Wish you guys did more Mizuno iron videos!
Do you guys see even high handicappers using these gorgeous irons? (14 - 20 handicaps?)
Possible, depends if the player is a good ball striker but struggles with other part of the game making their handicap higher
Would love to win a custom fit set of the 785s. Would go nicely with my g400 max I was recently fit for. Have you guys made the draw for the set of srixon/Clevelands yet?
I am in the market for new irons this year. Lots of great options out there, almost too many. Did Ian say that these irons would be comparable to the Mizuno 919 forged? These look more "Player like" than the 919 in my opinion, so I'm kind of surprised to hear that. If they play similarly I will definitely put these on the list to try, I love the look of these!
Yes they would be fairly similar to 919 forged
Have you had success bending these weak to up the spin or does the V sole grind get a bit weird?
Yes as long as it's not bent by more than a degree or two
Great content.
Ian, i hope your giving Matty mates rates lol...good luck with the new bats, get them bought!!!
Would the sole designs on srixon irons be bad for someone who picks the ball and takes very small divots if any?
Not necessarily, that type of sole design is quite good for a shallow angle of attack
Nice review. So is Matt getting new irons? Subtle difference with respect to numbers, but more noticeable in terms of feel and contact. Nice insight of impact of sole width and turf interaction depending on whether your swing is shallow or steep.
Might be!
Keep us updated. Would be nice if you could do a video on the more subtle influences on golf club selection from a fitters perspective e.g feel, quality of contact, tightness of dispersion, height, spin, predictability, etc.
What makes one pick a "players iron" like the 785 vs the 585?
Less offset, lower ball flight, aesthetic preferences
Love the comparison guys 👍
I am considerinf upgrading from the Z545 to the Z785 as my swing has improved a lot since before I put the Z545 in my bag
Do you think this could be a good decision? (I would be getting fit for them before any purchase)
Thanks for the good info as always
Certainly could be Glenn, go for a fitting with an open mind and see how they perform for you!
So interesting how a good player like myself who isn't a great iron player, good but not great, would assume I need thicker bottom iron. However I am always shallow or thin & barely nick the turf. Could benefit with thinner bottom. Wish you guys had made it to Halifax a year ago like was showing promise. I'll try to make it when visiting back in Toronto visiting friends if possible
I better win that 25k Srixon giveaway i could use the upgrade from my Z745s to the Z785s!
Not gonna lie. Little hungover this morning. Hope you guys are enjoying the show
765s with PXi was hard to beat...
Shallow Al 😆
When are you gonna do the 585s for us old farts who need help. Good video guys.
Soon Randy!
both good looking clubs but the zee was a disappointment 🙄
hit a fade lol