I really appreciate the slower clubhead speed examples. This makes the video much more relatable for a ton of golfers. Loving the new content coming online. Thank you!
Wonderful test. The ZX5 Mii did it for me. Sadly a bit late in the season. I went through Ping i230 ( too hard for me as a beginner ), Cobra DarkSpeed ( the height just dropped soooo much and also addressing the ball was a horrible moment ). The ZX5 is just perfect. The address, the top line, the feel, the height... My buddy says I'm nuts for going through 3 sets in one season but I've played over 70 rounds just this year. And I won't game something that is just not for me.
ACE!!!! Nice! I found the zx4 mkii to have a lower ball flight with slower swing speeds starting around the 7 iron with even modus 105 in regular. I've bent 2 sets 1* weaker and didn't have to change shafts for them. The cg on those are really touchy IMO for ball flight.
Great review. I’m a slower swing speed player with a low handicap and am in the market to replace my irons. This really helps understanding the differences. Considering blending a set. Thank you! It would be great to see similar reviews of other manufacturers like Titleist and mizuno. Ric
Great video! Was glad to watch the higher swing speed as I’m usually in the 93 mph with my 7 iron. I also play the Zx7 mk2. I debated between and the zx5 and zx7 as I was looking for the most “forgiving” club at my swing speed. I only picked the zx7 because my front to back dispersion was noticeably better while left to right remained about the same. I would catch the occasional flier with the zx5
I went from Mizuno JPX921 HM to Ping G425 to Miz Jpx923 HM pro. The Pings were like hitting a stone. I still fancy ZX4 MK2 but not sure about the stock KBS Taper Lite shaft 🤔
The roll out on the blade at 95mph was the furthest despite higher spin, i wouldn’t have expected that? It’s an academic question really since ZX5 looks more suited to me (though I am sticking with my JPX 921 Forged for now). I really like the dual speed testing.
That's only because a lot of them would have been pitching short of the green, and therefore bouncing on and rolling out, if it lands of the green then the software will show it stopping a lot quicker, hence why I was talking more about just the carry number, roll out on software is always going to be questionable so I just stick to talking about carry
Was fitted recently for Zx5 and didnt purchase as i was only recently fitted with Rogue St, i know they aint apple for apples but i was starting out last year and quickly dropping the HC. So ill revisted after this season.
Nice 1. I relate to the 75 swing speed....but guess nowhere near strike consistency! And really, that is my takeaway...most club performance will be similiar when strike is consistent. But, the extra 3-5 yards across 60-70 swings, prob have me lean to 5 if not 4.
I swing 7 iron around 93mph I went full zx5s the forgiveness in them is insane and they don’t look that big at all. I naturally hit the ball low so I liked having the help of hitting it higher when I needed.
Thanks Bret. Wouldn't look at total tbh that's basically just where the ball landed. The software simulates a green so if it lands on the green it stops a lot quicker but if it even lands 1 foot in front of the green it bounds on and rolls out. So the total will be unfair / inaccurate
Probably not too much difference in all honesty. Probably still see a touch more spin from the blade possibly but I'm not sure there would be a lot in it
Pretty sure they all had Modus 120 Stiff in them. They hadn't had our adapters glued into them when I filmed this and I think that's what came in them as stock
I did a fitting in Aug 2023 and the ZX4 mkii and ZX5 mk ii were both in the mix of irons I tested. I wanted to leave with the ZX4s but with a 70-72 mph 7i speed, the fitter said he wouldn't put me in them because of the low ball flight (well under 70') and land angle being under 40*. I found the same thing here. ZX5 did the best for me that day out of all of the irons. It was amongst the longest for me and had the highest flight and best descent angle. Only iron that got consistently over 70' high for me. I ended up buying them but unfortunately their blade size on the course kinda scared me off and sold them right away which I regretted. I just needed more time to acclimate to the smaller size than what I am used to playing (came from Ping G425 irons) which I went back to. Now playing Callaway Smoke HL irons which launch even higher and go further than the ZX5's and have a little bit bigger head profile which I like
Main thing with irons is always loft. I know there's lots of talk about tech in irons but loft will always be the biggest influencer. So only being 2* between the ZX5 and the Z Forged I would only expect to see around 5 yards of difference in carry
I'm not a massive fan of going into the stronger lofted irons in the longer irons purely as the launch conditions become worse and even though the marketing would lead you to believe the ZX5 is less forgiving than the ZX4 that just isn't the case. So get fitted into the set that suits you the best and stick with them all the way through the set 👍
Thanks Peter. Well shaft only really has an impact on timing, strike, consistency, things like that, so even if I were using a different shaft the results and numbers at the end would have still been basically identical
Threse Srixon irons are just about to be sent away to have our own adapters fitted and we will have them back in a couple weeks, same with Ping, so as soon as we get them back we will have Srixon, Ping, Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, Taylormade, Proto Concept, Wishon 👍
@@JT2u829 when you're talking just iron heads alone, not medling with swingweight, shafts, length, lie etc, the dispersion is 99% down to me, nothing to do with the iron heads
I don't how using a heavy, stiff steel shaft at 75mph is showing how a club will perform in the "real world." If you want to test at 75mph, use a light weight, preferably graphite, shaft in a regular or senior flex. You just might see better launch and spin.
Shafts make a minute difference to launch and spin, in fact there's an older video on my channel where I test a very lightweight graphite shaft (50g) against a Modus 105 Stiff and a Dynamic Gold X100 and the graphite shaft launched the lowest and span the lowest out of all of them. So when it comes to shafts you can't assume anything. Best bet with shafts is play what feels the best to you and what you can strike the most consistently. Then the head is what generates the high majority of launch and spin. Possibly with weaker people a heavier shaft might slow them down a little which could influence peak height. But yeah generally speaking, they don't have a big impact on launch conditions.
The shaft really only influences golfers timing. For some good golfers it makes practically no difference as they adjust to shaft feel. And those it does make a difference, then better use feel (timing) you are comfortable with at all speeds for consistency
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I really appreciate the slower clubhead speed examples. This makes the video much more relatable for a ton of golfers. Loving the new content coming online. Thank you!
Thanks Dave, glad you like the content 👍👌
Recently discovered this golf channel. It is great!
So glad to see Srixon in your stable now. Massively underrated clubs... Would love to see a T200 vx ZX5 comparison.
Agreed! I haven't come across someone making that comparison video!
I was fitted recently into the ZX5 mk2 irons and I absolutely love them! Great review
I fitted ZX4 yesterday
You have definitely climbed the ranking in one of my favorite golf focused RUclipsrs keep it up
Thanks Dalton really appreciate that 🙌👍👍
Great review and very informative.
Another comprehensive video. Let me know once you have Srixon heads back and I will be down for iron fitting.
Wonderful test. The ZX5 Mii did it for me. Sadly a bit late in the season. I went through Ping i230 ( too hard for me as a beginner ), Cobra DarkSpeed ( the height just dropped soooo much and also addressing the ball was a horrible moment ). The ZX5 is just perfect. The address, the top line, the feel, the height... My buddy says I'm nuts for going through 3 sets in one season but I've played over 70 rounds just this year. And I won't game something that is just not for me.
Been playing the zx5 first gen. Not mk11 for about 6 months now and have played my best gold ever. Love the clubs.
ACE!!!! Nice! I found the zx4 mkii to have a lower ball flight with slower swing speeds starting around the 7 iron with even modus 105 in regular. I've bent 2 sets 1* weaker and didn't have to change shafts for them. The cg on those are really touchy IMO for ball flight.
I've got a blended zx5&7 set. Love them!
Great review. I’m a slower swing speed player with a low handicap and am in the market to replace my irons. This really helps understanding the differences. Considering blending a set. Thank you! It would be great to see similar reviews of other manufacturers like Titleist and mizuno. Ric
Great review, I find myself turning to you content more and more. Great channel and content thank you 👊👊👍
Thanks James appreciate that mate 🙌🙌👍👍
Great video! Was glad to watch the higher swing speed as I’m usually in the 93 mph with my 7 iron. I also play the Zx7 mk2. I debated between and the zx5 and zx7 as I was looking for the most “forgiving” club at my swing speed. I only picked the zx7 because my front to back dispersion was noticeably better while left to right remained about the same. I would catch the occasional flier with the zx5
I picked up the MkII ZX-5s and absolutely love them. They are easily the best irons I've hit.
and don't sleep on the mkII 5 wood, either. I took my 3 wood out of the bag when i got the 5.
Play the ZX5s and they are great. Enjoyed the test.😊
I went from Mizuno JPX921 HM to Ping G425 to Miz Jpx923 HM pro. The Pings were like hitting a stone. I still fancy ZX4 MK2 but not sure about the stock KBS Taper Lite shaft 🤔
The roll out on the blade at 95mph was the furthest despite higher spin, i wouldn’t have expected that? It’s an academic question really since ZX5 looks more suited to me (though I am sticking with my JPX 921 Forged for now). I really like the dual speed testing.
That's only because a lot of them would have been pitching short of the green, and therefore bouncing on and rolling out, if it lands of the green then the software will show it stopping a lot quicker, hence why I was talking more about just the carry number, roll out on software is always going to be questionable so I just stick to talking about carry
Awesome hole in one !!
I still game the Z965’s and just love them. Modus 120 S in there too…. I’ve always said that Srixon make some of the most forgiving blades
100% 🙌🙌
Was fitted recently for Zx5 and didnt purchase as i was only recently fitted with Rogue St, i know they aint apple for apples but i was starting out last year and quickly dropping the HC. So ill revisted after this season.
Nice 1. I relate to the 75 swing speed....but guess nowhere near strike consistency! And really, that is my takeaway...most club performance will be similiar when strike is consistent. But, the extra 3-5 yards across 60-70 swings, prob have me lean to 5 if not 4.
I swing 7 iron around 93mph I went full zx5s the forgiveness in them is insane and they don’t look that big at all. I naturally hit the ball low so I liked having the help of hitting it higher when I needed.
Do you have a performance test for 2024 Ping irons planned?
Good job. Why does the Z-forged blade roll out so much with the 95mph swing? Seems odd to have more spin and still roll out 13 yards.
Thanks Bret. Wouldn't look at total tbh that's basically just where the ball landed. The software simulates a green so if it lands on the green it stops a lot quicker but if it even lands 1 foot in front of the green it bounds on and rolls out. So the total will be unfair / inaccurate
Wish you had a zx4 8 iron for this test Same loft as blade. What would be the difference loft for loft
Probably not too much difference in all honesty. Probably still see a touch more spin from the blade possibly but I'm not sure there would be a lot in it
Zx5’s look a good fit!
Which shaft are being tested in details please...on both 75 and 95 mph.Thanks
Pretty sure they all had Modus 120 Stiff in them. They hadn't had our adapters glued into them when I filmed this and I think that's what came in them as stock
I did a fitting in Aug 2023 and the ZX4 mkii and ZX5 mk ii were both in the mix of irons I tested. I wanted to leave with the ZX4s but with a 70-72 mph 7i speed, the fitter said he wouldn't put me in them because of the low ball flight (well under 70') and land angle being under 40*. I found the same thing here. ZX5 did the best for me that day out of all of the irons. It was amongst the longest for me and had the highest flight and best descent angle. Only iron that got consistently over 70' high for me. I ended up buying them but unfortunately their blade size on the course kinda scared me off and sold them right away which I regretted. I just needed more time to acclimate to the smaller size than what I am used to playing (came from Ping G425 irons) which I went back to. Now playing Callaway Smoke HL irons which launch even higher and go further than the ZX5's and have a little bit bigger head profile which I like
Can't get over how the blade is 'keeping up' with the cavity backs
Main thing with irons is always loft. I know there's lots of talk about tech in irons but loft will always be the biggest influencer. So only being 2* between the ZX5 and the Z Forged I would only expect to see around 5 yards of difference in carry
Hole in one with the ZX4 ! hahaha..In the bag
Is the ZX4 4-6 and ZX5 7-aw a good mix for 18hcp? TY
I'm not a massive fan of going into the stronger lofted irons in the longer irons purely as the launch conditions become worse and even though the marketing would lead you to believe the ZX5 is less forgiving than the ZX4 that just isn't the case. So get fitted into the set that suits you the best and stick with them all the way through the set 👍
i don't get how you can do the slower swing speed without changing the shaft!
Pretty easy tbh 😂👍
How do they feel? Like mizuno?
Yeah as good imo
Who swinging that slow would play 120gram shafts. Anyway to do this with shafts that are relevant to the swing speed? Thank you for the videos
Thanks Peter. Well shaft only really has an impact on timing, strike, consistency, things like that, so even if I were using a different shaft the results and numbers at the end would have still been basically identical
Which brands are you now stocking for iron fittings? Thanks
Threse Srixon irons are just about to be sent away to have our own adapters fitted and we will have them back in a couple weeks, same with Ping, so as soon as we get them back we will have Srixon, Ping, Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, Taylormade, Proto Concept, Wishon 👍
@@epgolfstudios That’s a pretty comprehensive line up now! Will have to book in soon.
What about dispersion?
@@JT2u829 when you're talking just iron heads alone, not medling with swingweight, shafts, length, lie etc, the dispersion is 99% down to me, nothing to do with the iron heads
I don't how using a heavy, stiff steel shaft at 75mph is showing how a club will perform in the "real world." If you want to test at 75mph, use a light weight, preferably graphite, shaft in a regular or senior flex. You just might see better launch and spin.
Shafts make a minute difference to launch and spin, in fact there's an older video on my channel where I test a very lightweight graphite shaft (50g) against a Modus 105 Stiff and a Dynamic Gold X100 and the graphite shaft launched the lowest and span the lowest out of all of them. So when it comes to shafts you can't assume anything. Best bet with shafts is play what feels the best to you and what you can strike the most consistently. Then the head is what generates the high majority of launch and spin. Possibly with weaker people a heavier shaft might slow them down a little which could influence peak height. But yeah generally speaking, they don't have a big impact on launch conditions.
The shaft really only influences golfers timing. For some good golfers it makes practically no difference as they adjust to shaft feel. And those it does make a difference, then better use feel (timing) you are comfortable with at all speeds for consistency
LOL hole in 1
Well technically this was a par 4 👀😂😂😂