@@johnlocke5167 yes and that is why they make adjustments to drivers Ed and make adjustments to cars and roads to make them safer and why they make laws like where I live a couple years ago they updated the phone laws to make them more strict.
King Of Finland More like the entire world, everyone is corrupt. Just like in your country Finland where your citizens were stripped of their basic right to defend themselves, making it possible for the government to control the citizens, therefore giving themselves the power to restrict or promote what you can and cannot buy.
So, companies that SELL guns to people who obviously support gun rights (evident in ones purchase) donates money to a gun rights organization ? Sounds rather American to me.
Its fairly recently an American past time. We used to have gun safety lessons in school & bring rifles to play with after we got out. No one ever got shot. If kids fought, they didn't even think to grab their guns, they duked it out. The media & music glorifies gangs, shooting each other & other illegal things.. until someone or a bunch of someones actually gets shot. Then they cry for gun control, when all mass shootings except for one took place in a gun free zone. Columbine happened during the Clinton era "assault" weapons ban with banned firearms in a school where guns were not allowed on the premises. You can draw whatever conclusion you'd like to about that
@@jpm2184 Come on, man. I got a similar ad, and I'm a very anti-gun guy. Just because someone got an ad for a certain thing, even with algorithms, does not make define their political views. I appreciate the rest of your comment, but don't label people based on the limiting information you have about them.
Greg Wilson “fully semi automatic” isn’t a thing a semi automatic just means pull the trigger fires a round just like a pistol an ar-15 is pull the trigger and fire one round
Greg Wilson there’s already way way way to many out there...Thousands and thousands of big fat people been using them for years..They just keep shoveling it in and won’t stop
Justin Peters - I love your willingness to defend our gun rights and take the time to explain things to these anti self defense folks BUT.... the comment you responded to was from one of our own who was joking and being silly. He was making fun of the other side and how they speak about the issue. Example: (tactical heat seeking bullets with a fully-semi-automatic high powered military clip) LOL 👍🏼
@@Void84276 yes you can that's by sharing your junk food with other people and then their gonna share it with others and then they are gonna share it with others
So if we can't draw a line between a spoon and an assault riffle, let's just erase the lane between bicycles and trucks, so every kid could drive a truck.
BrosephStalin gaming yes it is? The original ar 15/m16 is an assault rife In The fact that it is select fire and has full auto capabilities. But the civilian ar 15 isn’t an assault rifle cause it can’t fire full auto.
@@Max-ey9wl thanks for clarifying. Whatever you call it, her argument is that anything can be a weapon, purposefully disregarding classification of weapons. What I did was just bringing the same logic to a different issue. It's a simple way to debunk flawed arguments. If it's valid for weapons it should be valid for anything else.
I don’t know why gun enthusiasts get so caught up with assault rifles. They’re overrated and incredibly overpriced. Handguns and shotguns are more than enough for home defense and personal defense. And there numerous hunting rifles that are much much more practical for hunting than assault rifles. I owned an assault rifle when I was in the military (active duty). I felt I wasn’t shooting enough on the army’s dime so I bought an AR-15 to shoot on my own time, which was great. Once I shot on my own time, I scored expert 40/40 nearly everytime. Once I got out of the army, I sold my assault rifle to to a gun store a year later. I had no use for it anymore. I still buy guns but just handguns and shotguns. There just is no real reason for AR-15s to be a commercially sold firearm. It should be supplied to law enforcement and military only (well, not ARs but M-4s)
The reason is that European politicians were able to pass sensible gun laws and faced no opposition because they weren't being funded by gun lobbying groups. Wish that was the case here in America.
@@chadnguyen6332I haven't watched the video yet but that's completely false. They could do it in Europe because gun ownership was not WRITTEN in the very foundation it's countries.
@anguschandler4482 correct. However changing any of the amendments is incredibly difficult and changing of any of the original 10 amendments has never been done. It requires a super majority in Congress and 3/4 of the states and the president to all agree. It's basically impossible.
You can’t take guns from criminals - it would’ve been done already if you could. You can only take guns from people who legally own them. So, if you were to ban all guns, you would only be taking away innocent peoples ability to protect themselves. End of argument.
hahah beautiful ... the crux of the lefts argument "but i don't like it" ... further this dolt thinks the founders would want the 2A restricted ! blahahahhah they are so clueless lololol
The founders were very clear about what kinds of weapons were to be protected: The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. --Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
No they didnt make it broad. What do you not understand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? Shall not be infringed is very clear. The purpose of it was to make sure that the people are always more powerful than the govt, not hunting. Look up the founding father's quotes and documents if you want evidence. The liberal media tries to suppress history. The fact that we cant own the same weapons as the govt is already unconstitutional.
Ok so if everyone that can legally own a firearm owns and carries a firearm, who is the bad guy, who can't legally own a firearm, going to rob ? Like. Idk about you but if I'm wanting to rob someone I'm gonna go with the guy that's not carrying a .45.
And the reason the gun debate is so screwed is because each state is different in its gun laws. and the Las Vegas shooter legally bought two firearms while he was on a FBI watchlist the FBI said he was good to buy a gun while he was wanted And I do agree that money is a huge factor in the gun debate and tilts it a lot I don’t like the nra but please take these into consideration
If you really think some 60 something gambler just decided to start shooting people, and disregard the eye witness reports, im sorry to say, the programming is in full effect.
Landen Chaudion you are so wrong it’s incredible. this entire video is an explanation of all the times the NRA has systematically prevented gun safety laws from going into effect, despite support for them!!! and hey, maybe you would be right, but we have no idea because the NRA has blocked pretty much every study the government has ever tried to conduct on gun safety and gun violence!
I am incredibly mad. It's becoming more and more clear to me as I get older that people are far more interested in lining their pockets than coming up with solutions that help people. It makes me think that these damned rules are meant to be broken, and i bitterly weep that I've been too naive and cowardly to thumb my nose at money grubbing fools and break them myself.
@@bedebop3904 All the guns cannot sell in black market. If something becomes illegal, the prices will increase because of the cost of the risk of getting it into the market and when the prices increase and there's a risk of imprisonment for owning a gun, fewer people will buy it.
So u agree at least for mandatory proper training for gun use right? Because if the good guys with guns are improperly trained, they may hurt themselves or people other than the shooters?
A. Ho well an easy counter to your argument would be “a constitutional right should apply to every American citizen. Even if they are poor and can’t afford specialized training”
Oh no I'm not arguing against having guns. I'm arguing against the idea that guns offer concrete security without proper training. Thank you for your cordial reply! :)
Oh, so the nra getting millions from gun companies are bad, but democratic candidates getting BILLIONS from organizations should be overlooked? Explain that one vox
Dubilyoo falling back to the old and overused argument of guns kill people? Really? And also the ones you are referring to who sell the votes also want to take our freedoms so?🤔
I am in total agreement that news organizations need to stop validating the NRA. Naming it a lobbying group is completely accurate and the first time I’ve heard someone just come out and say it
NRA is a terrorist group. They are exactly like Taliban or IS - rely on age old laws, do not allow to change laws, make laws permanent and make human life horrible. Like Taliban or IS they create terror in public spaces and gatherings.
The NRA also has a history of promoting gun control to prevent black people from carrying firearms. They don't care about civil rights. They care about money. People need to understand that regardless of where they stand on the issue.
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
I think Vox is wrong to call the NRA a political lobbying group. $20M-$30M is pitifully small in the lobbying world. The power of the NRA is the volume of votes it can influence. It's more accurate to call the NRA a civil rights group because it's representing millions of voters who care about their 2nd amendment right. If the NRA didn't have the millions of voters who trust them then the politicians wouldn't care a bit about the $20M-$30M
Dark Shadow Storm yes discrimination based on age is a civil rights issue. Denying a constitutional right to 18-20 year old's based on the action of one 19 yr old is ridiculous. What next? Keep Muslims from buying rifles because san Bernardino of pulse nightclub shooting.
Stella Moreno the problem is that if you enjoy these kinds of videos, you must be somewhat leftist. That’s not a dig at you or anyone else, it’s a fact. Vox is extremely leftist in their views, so no one that disagrees with their views will enjoy the video. That’s just a fact and that’s the problem. “Too much hate” comes from people annoyed that vox almost never uses accurate, bipartisan facts and examples, instead, they demonize the right and idolize leftist views, representatives and companies.
Xplosives, Yeah, I dislike the fact that so few news outlets provide multiple sides to a story. Thats why I dislike so many large news cooperations, (in north america atleast.) Vox is bad, but atleast they research their stories and don’t blatently lie, or fabricate evidence to support their claims. Vox also reports about important issues such as climate change, while many other news outlets don’t mention it or even deny it, and exist purley to mock, and agrivate people on the left side of the political spectrum. No political leaning is “better” but I find that these days, religion, climate change, and even basic things like equal rights for LGBTQ people, is split between the right and the left. Climate change for example is an easy to explain, unbelievably important part of our world now days but it seems that only left leaning poloticians acknowledge it’s existance.
The NRA represents its millions of members. To ignore that and only focus on the companies is ridiculous sentiment. They're also the organization that brought background checks about they were also the organization that ended racist laws in the South not allowing black people to own firearms.
ChidzHustle. It’s still happening. I just read an article where they talk about misusing money for private vacations and secret tapes of the NRA discussing their legal troubles and financial misconduct from two days ago.
Bilal Baig because the media doesn't fully represent the ideas in this country. Trust me, there's a sizable group that doesn't want changes to gun laws, and aren't shown on television. It's kinda like (i think it was Nixon who said this) the silent majority complex, although how many there are i do not myself fully know.
Yea, think of it like this. You live in a small town and a roberry goes down with the gunman killing many people. Wouldn't you want to buy guns to now protect yourself from this new threat?
No it isn't a significant message at all. It is because a lot of people on the left openly say banning all firearms. Its scare buying. That's it. It isn't a bunch of people buying guns because they want to emulate mass shootings. Anyone who thinks that normal gun owners of America are okay with mass shootings lives in a fantasy world. But people will be damned if they try to take stuff away. Think of it like this, the right to bear arms is a civil right and a constitutional right. It's also one of the only rights that is constantly under assault and being further and further pushed back and infringed. Gun owners are sick of it and they want more rights to things they think are cool and interesting and tbh, they have a constitutional right to them. Unless that changes gun control will never stop and there will always be a side pushing for more rights.
It does, We the people will take arms, because what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance...
Gun control supporters and apologists refuse to look at the bigger picture: There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death: • 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons - gun violence • 3% are accidental discharge deaths So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation? • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years) So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause. This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1. Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals. But what about other deaths each year? • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose-THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT! • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide) Now it gets good: • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital! • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides......Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.: Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of the USA knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. Americans must preserve it at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is “control," not “gun." Here are some unbiased sources: ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/
30000 a year stills seems pretty big to me comparing it to something else doesn't mean that those 30000 people are insignificant. This is just another example of false equivalence. Yes I see that there are bigger problems like heart disease but it seems like a more natural way to die compared to dying from guns. Also I don't want a world where all my neighbors have guns because sure i will also have a gun to protect myself but intruders, robbers and other criminals can get guns by killing us. which may make us a target. These are the fears I have about guns based on statistics that I'm too lazy to re-locate and cite which state that owning a gun makes you more likely a victim of gun violence.
brandon chan Did you ignore the part about drug overdoses? Banning drugs doesn’t stop that so why would banning guns stop gun violence? Also, 25% of the nation’s gun crime happens in four of the cities with the strictest gun laws.
@@brandonchan5620 your neighbors already own guns. and its not the state that is dangerous, just avoid like 4 cities and your fine, and dont run in a gang. you will be just fine.
A century ago, the fledgling car industry created the term 'Jaywalker' to victim blame pedestrians.... See _Adam Ruins Everything_ or _99% Invisible_ if you're interested.
The whole point of the video can easily be disproven by pointing out that the biggest part of NRA's revenue comes from membership fees. 39.4% in 2022, to be exact.
Maybe it's because I grew up in a country with a long standing tradition of involving schools and students in politics, but after seeing your last video and this one - I am outraged by the disdain and neglect shown to these students. American democracy no longer exists for its voters, but for its oligarchs
Dixie Normas and how can that be? Are Americans just that much more violent then the rest of the world? Cause what you just described is not the case in other western countries, so I would like you to answer as to how come Americans are so eager to kill one another
Dixie Normas Out of 100 mass shooters maybe 10 could build a bomb. Out of the 10 maybe 1 could make a chemical weapon. When you factor in the fact that mass shootings are deadlier than bombs, which are deadlier than chemicals, I would rather there be 1 chemical attack with 2 deaths than 100 mass shootings with 20 deaths each. The point of law is to reduce, not completely prevent. No law is 100% effective. Coconuts kill more people than sharks each year, but do we tear down the shark nets at beaches? Not everyone can build a bomb or chemical weapon, but in the current state, anyone can very easily get a gun. The point of laws is to reduce that number. And if it doesn't completely prevent it? That's still good enough. Again, no law is 100% effective. Drug laws aren't 100% effective, we see overdoses all over the country, but we still have them. Because without them there would be even more. And less is good enough. Just because we can stop all deaths, doesn't mean we shouldn't stop the ones we can.
Dixie Normas jesus christ, nothing you said forms a coherent argument. "Less guns is not gonna solve anything because people will use bombs, or napalm or blabla" YOUR OPINION IS WRONG AND NOT FACTUAL. You're an idiot repeating faulty arguments at nauseum.
@@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005 That is the purpose of 2A, to protect yourself and the people from the tyranny of the govt. Or at least in the minds of only of conservatives.
Yeah, and the people who made that amendment are the same people who supported slavery, didn't give women, blacks, native Americans and non property owning males the right to vote. And also, Thomas Jefferson advocated that the Constitution should be changed every 19 years, because he believed that as America changes, the laws must adopt to the new changes of the country. And also fun fact: when the University of Virginia opened in 1824, it prohibited firearms to be used and bought into the campuses. And two founding fathers made that prohibition, now who were those founding fathers?, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. The authors of the Second Amendment
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 A minor point, but I believe the U of Virginia was established in 1819 and not 1824. Students were prohibited from having guns on campus but not guns in general. A student of that age could own a gun at that time, and the prohibition didn't ban guns on campus. It didn't allow students to have guns, but there was no prohibition of faculty and staff having guns on campus. Again, there was no law at the time preventing people that age from owning guns. A rule at a college is not law. The school I went to didn't allow us to chew gum on campus, but there was no law preventing us from chewing gum. The school could do nothing about our gum chewing away from campus.
Ok so the government isnt trying to take our guns... *turns on TV... Sees politican Beto ... " yes we are going to take your guns." Smh ... they admit to trying to take guns its not a lie ... and why send your kids to a school where theyre not protected
Sir Alfred Lawrence The video did not talk about both tobacco and guns being civil rights. It talked about how the NRA, which is funded by big gun companies, is similar to the tobacco companies who formed the tobacco Institute, as the two groups made up distractions and fake issues to evade the questions of the consumer.
Chase Messer yeah but if america want protect second amendment rather legalized AR-15 the gorvement should subsidized tank to affordable price rather a good guy with a gun we have good guy with a TANK!!!😄😄😄
so let's amend the constitution, giving everyone the right to bear tobacco, and we'll see how things go for you next time someone tries to invade your house.
@@orangecheese6773 since 2009 Usa has had 288 school shootings, vs Canada which has had 2. Thats a significant difference. I feel like politeness plays a small role in that.
@@orangecheese6773 also no kids were killed in either. In one instance the shooter himself asked the teachers to take the 53 students away and to safety before he started. He only killed one 43 year old and then killed himself
It's not about rights, or patortism, it's about money. Loobyist giving millions to key Republicans to not make gun restrictions no other. Change leadership and make laws to protect citizens. Vote out the Republicans stopping what 85% of Americans want change.
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 NRA doesn't Hijack anything. They showed up to the debate and members argue in place for them. The NRA wouldn't exist without their members.
1911GreaterThanALL They hijack debates because they lobby politicians to not have a debate. Like Mitch McConnell who received a $1,700,000 right before he blocked a gun legislation bill from even having vote on the senate floor
Really Vox, What a bunch of crap. Lets see anyone from Vox debate anyone from the the NRA. Ben Shapiro at his talks puts anyone with an opposing view up front during his Q&A segment. Never seen you do that!
"He who knows only his side of the case knows little of it." Jonathan Stuart Mills. One of my favorite quotes Michael. I constantly remind my facebook friends who I feel are drifting too far left or right of that fact. I just feel that Vox has gone,along with the major media, too far at demonizing the NRA after the Parkland event. I am an ex NRA member who dropped for numerous reasons but I never felt these people were only there to represent gun companies and didn't care about the horrible loss of life occurring at these shootings.
Why do we just focus on guns? Why not mental health? No law biding person and healthy minded person is going to shoot up a place! If someone purposely runs into someone we don’t say that the car killed the person, the person driving killed the person.
I live in Canada and we have a huge spike in gun violence due to the massive influx of illegal firearms from the US, do I need a bazooka to defend myself or a basic AR-15 will do the job? Thanks NRA!
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
Yes, we need more good guys with guns. Part of being good however is proper training then they MUST carry their gun safely wherever they go. This is so simple people.
Outlaw guns and ONLY outlaws will have guns... Caracas Venezuela has the highest murder rate in the world... Guns are also completely illegal there and gun free zones are everywhere... Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in europe... And 1 in 2 people there owns a gun... JUST SAYIN'
Venezuela also doesn't have free and fair elections, and their society is economically collapsing. Meanwhile, Switzerland is a socialist democracy with free and fair elections. Switzerland does have high gun ownership, but the ammunition is heavily regulated. You'll find many homes with guns, but very few with bullets. Moreover, The U.K. and Australia have also heavily restricted guns, and they haven't turned into NRA dystopias.
@@JakobNorthblood You forget the other reason for the right to bear arms. If we didn't have fire arms, a government take over could be even more problematic. Also there are cheaper ways to commit mass murder: cars, fireworks, fire, etc.
THINKING THAT PASSING GUN LAWS WILL PREVENT CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING GUNS MAKES EXACTLY AS MUCH SENSE AS THINKING THAT PASSING GUN LAWS WILL PREVENT CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING KNIVES!!!!!
@@handsometall28And who does the confiscation now that guns are completely banned? The police? With pepper spray and batons? Since at that point being banned, surely government agencies won’t be allowed to have any
My dad was a Sargent in charge of a gun squad in WW2 under Patton. He was an extreme marksman and fought from Normandy through the Hedge row country and all the way to Bastogne. I've never seen anyone more experienced with firearms . He was requested to train snipers and SWAT teams after he got back which he turned down. Dad wasn't fanatical about firearms ,but firearms seem to be everything he was interested in ,and his knowledge of firearms was as good as his shooting skills. Sad to say but he probably was a very good killer. When he was promoted to a Sargent he was given a Thompson, pretty much the same as the AK types or the Auto Killing guns . He turned it down. He had clearance to shoot at any police ranges with no reservations. His shooting skills astonished anyone around him and especially the police. He squirrel hunted with a revolver and I never saw him miss . One time leaving a police range an officer followed him out and asked him if he was joined up or with the NRA . Dad just replied "No". The officer said " Hank with your skills why wouldn't you join" Dad just dropped his head and "No I'm not interested in the NRA " ,and we walked away. I was only about 7 years old and I never questioned his opinions about firearms , but I wish I knew the answer or the reason why . I've never joined or will ever join the NRA , but what I know for myself I wouldn't and maybe I know his answer.
Currently in Guns politics, NRA is not favored by the modern gun enthusiast We support gun owners of America. That’s the new hip organization. NRA been found to have anti-gunners in the organization Or as I like to call them constitution traders
34% of their revenue comes from private companies, up from 27% in 2013 Meanwhile membership dues accounted for 39% of their revenue *down* from 50% in 2013 If the revenue from gun companies is growing, they're going to respect the interests of those companies. Not to mention 34% is still a huge part of their revenue and most of those 5 million members also support the interests of the companies
I can protect my family, a god given right guaranteed in our constitution. I'm a Army veteran and former deputy, I have taken the oath twice to uphold the constitution twice...NOBODY takes nor regulates my right away-period.
rights are subjective. defensive gun use is exceedingly rare, and they ultimately facilitate excess violence and death. when we assume human autonomy and free will, we assume human suffering, but our gun epidemic is causing SO much suffering. at some point, we have to figure out what we value, the lives of our children and police officers, or someones "right" to purchase an assault weapon without a background check. were not trying to take away *your* gun, but we are trying to put legislation in place to prevent mass shootings, death, and violence.
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
@ I have an AR-15 and I have no desire to kill innocent people. I didn't buy it to honor them either. I bought it because I like shooting and foxes, coyotes and disease-ridden raccoons are a problem where I live.
If by “figure” you mean the video itself and if by “sources” you mean a couple few-second-long clips of people talking about the NRA then yes, those “sources” are there. But I could care less about people’s opinions, I want to see the CONCRETE STATISTICAL DATA that they are basing their opinion on. If such statistical data is link somewhere in the description then please drop that link in a replay to this comment as, if it actually exists, I have obviously overlooked it. But, as far as I can tell no such data is linked. If you somehow found this data outside of this video please provide me with the link.
Here in Washington State, magazines with > 10 rounds are now illrgal. Since the Suprrme Court found these laws unconstitutional how do we fight this? Richard Kates
The real question is if the logic that just because the bad guy has a gun the good guy should have one as well then why does USA gets Disturbed when other countries get nuclear weapons...I mean they can also say that they r only protecting themselves
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Lemme put it this way: EVERY SINGLE issue in America stems from the fact that they call a bribery “donation” and corruption “lobbying”.
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Well don’t most places do that when there is corruption and bribery, but it’s just a lot worse in the us.
I mean hes got a point
A similar group to the NRA is Planned Parenthood
Would like to see the real data on mass killings with spoons.
@@jtr9346 *bruh*
What about butter knife?
@@jtr9346 b r u h
@@TesterBoy yes
What about a *spork*
Blaming gun violence on video games is like blaming car crashes on hot wheels
Blaming gun violence on guns is like blaming car crashes on cars
@@johnlocke5167 yes and that is why they make adjustments to drivers Ed and make adjustments to cars and roads to make them safer and why they make laws like where I live a couple years ago they updated the phone laws to make them more strict.
@@johnlocke5167 funny how one is called a weapon and the other a vehicle
@@johnlocke5167 never heard of a semi automatic car. I can keep going
@@johnlocke5167 you dont hear people robbing convenience stores with cars
"Those violent, viscous, video games..."
Me building a house in Minecraft: Maybe im a monster...
Well you were born yesterday
You're so dangerous 🤣🤣🤣.
Trying to make my city as happy and prosperous as I can in Skylines. Maybe I am a monster 👹
Me making thanksgiving dinner for my villagers in animal crossing: maybe I'm a monster
I play borderlands. I don’t see a problem with violent video-games. They are just pixels.
*confused european*
Same. It is sad to see that in the USA money is more important than human life :(
same here
@Bugler55 We have our problems but not as bad as USA.
King Of Finland More like the entire world, everyone is corrupt. Just like in your country Finland where your citizens were stripped of their basic right to defend themselves, making it possible for the government to control the citizens, therefore giving themselves the power to restrict or promote what you can and cannot buy.
@Bugler55 you nearly do have a monopoly on corrupt politicians and lobbyist.
So, companies that SELL guns to people who obviously support gun rights (evident in ones purchase) donates money to a gun rights organization ? Sounds rather American to me.
Its fairly recently an American past time. We used to have gun safety lessons in school & bring rifles to play with after we got out. No one ever got shot. If kids fought, they didn't even think to grab their guns, they duked it out. The media & music glorifies gangs, shooting each other & other illegal things.. until someone or a bunch of someones actually gets shot. Then they cry for gun control, when all mass shootings except for one took place in a gun free zone. Columbine happened during the Clinton era "assault" weapons ban with banned firearms in a school where guns were not allowed on the premises. You can draw whatever conclusion you'd like to about that
true is 100% American
Vox is an incredibly anti American platform. They stretch the boundaries of the first amendment
This is why America don't have "corruption", they have “donation”. Yep welcome to America
@@drewtruscott3683 AMEN to that, mate, you're spot on !
Got my AS-15 assault spoon today. I feel so safe now!
armaspoon 15? ar stands for armalite
Bruh it’s a joke
Armaspoon
😂😂😂😂 wow...
I would, especially if it was an ar-15
Squidward choked on a fork, one of the deadliest assault weapons.
what about homicidal samsung smart-fridges
@@flyingfish5054 Thats pretty scary😂
Stay strapped
A dresser fell on me the most dangerous weapon more dangerous then a nuke
Fork tasty
Litterally had a pro-gun ad play for this video.
Same
Good. It'll cancel out the bullshit you were about to hear.
@@jpm2184 Come on, man. I got a similar ad, and I'm a very anti-gun guy. Just because someone got an ad for a certain thing, even with algorithms, does not make define their political views. I appreciate the rest of your comment, but don't label people based on the limiting information you have about them.
They should put a trigger warning for their ads 😫
I got a survey about Medicare, 45's impeachment and other issues
I need a "high-capacity-fully-semi-automatic-spork"
Greg Wilson “fully semi automatic” isn’t a thing a semi automatic just means pull the trigger fires a round just like a pistol an ar-15 is pull the trigger and fire one round
r/woosh
Greg Wilson there’s already way way way to many out there...Thousands and thousands of big fat people been using them for years..They just keep shoveling it in and won’t stop
Justin Peters - I love your willingness to defend our gun rights and take the time to explain things to these anti self defense folks BUT.... the comment you responded to was from one of our own who was joking and being silly. He was making fun of the other side and how they speak about the issue. Example: (tactical heat seeking bullets with a fully-semi-automatic high powered military clip) LOL 👍🏼
Justin Peters thats the joke mate
I need a high capacity assault fully semi automatic potato
Your phone?
Potato double barreled extended magazine sawed of carbine pistol 😂😂😂
Get the newest model, the High-capacity fully semi-automatic bump stock hollow point assault potato
Nah I prefer that for a gun
I need a 9mm barrel extended potato
I blame obesity on spoons.
Facts
Can someone becoming obese make other people obese?
@@Void84276 yes you can that's by sharing your junk food with other people and then their gonna share it with others and then they are gonna share it with others
You can blame obesity on processed food, not spoons. It's an industry too, just like the killing devices or 'guns'.
Nah man. It's Forks not spoons. Check your facts.
I got a gun ad on this video
Avira Browser safety it works .
did you get one?
That’s bad why?
Good
@@joshualocicero6799 love sig Sauer
So if we can't draw a line between a spoon and an assault riffle, let's just erase the lane between bicycles and trucks, so every kid could drive a truck.
Assault rifle isn't a real word
@@destruction75723 🤔
BrosephStalin gaming yes it is? The original ar 15/m16 is an assault rife In The fact that it is select fire and has full auto capabilities. But the civilian ar 15 isn’t an assault rifle cause it can’t fire full auto.
@@Max-ey9wl thanks for clarifying. Whatever you call it, her argument is that anything can be a weapon, purposefully disregarding classification of weapons. What I did was just bringing the same logic to a different issue. It's a simple way to debunk flawed arguments. If it's valid for weapons it should be valid for anything else.
I don’t know why gun enthusiasts get so caught up with assault rifles. They’re overrated and incredibly overpriced. Handguns and shotguns are more than enough for home defense and personal defense. And there numerous hunting rifles that are much much more practical for hunting than assault rifles.
I owned an assault rifle when I was in the military (active duty). I felt I wasn’t shooting enough on the army’s dime so I bought an AR-15 to shoot on my own time, which was great. Once I shot on my own time, I scored expert 40/40 nearly everytime.
Once I got out of the army, I sold my assault rifle to to a gun store a year later. I had no use for it anymore. I still buy guns but just handguns and shotguns. There just is no real reason for AR-15s to be a commercially sold firearm. It should be supplied to law enforcement and military only (well, not ARs but M-4s)
Welp,
*grabs popcorn*
Time to read some comments
Someone give this man a check
Someone get this man a shield.
I’m Pro-Gun.
@@bobjoe2228 so am I but to a extent
@@bobjoe2228 As am I.
If a spoon can be as dangerous as guns, why don't we send our troops to war with spoons?
soldiers carry their own cutlery, you know?
@@isaacvazquez627 😂👍
Ahh yes that's a good idea.
Against the Geneva Convention, too deadly.
@@groverjuicy you're right
Fun fact. We have the same video games and movies over here in Europe. We don’t have that same level of gun violence. Stop using that non-argument.
The reason is that European politicians were able to pass sensible gun laws and faced no opposition because they weren't being funded by gun lobbying groups. Wish that was the case here in America.
@@chadnguyen6332I haven't watched the video yet but that's completely false. They could do it in Europe because gun ownership was not WRITTEN in the very foundation it's countries.
@anguschandler4482 correct. However changing any of the amendments is incredibly difficult and changing of any of the original 10 amendments has never been done. It requires a super majority in Congress and 3/4 of the states and the president to all agree. It's basically impossible.
The NRA couldn’t care less about innocent lives, they just want the money.
*is confused in canadian*
Hilarious and original
Crunchu lol
Why must we have a lot of gun lovers. WHyYYYYYYYyYyYyYy.
I feel your pain
sameeee im canadian and im afraid for americans
A majority of Americans seem fairly ignorant about the basics of firearms and the gun laws that already exists.
I agree. I think people should educate themselves on firearms before they try to ban or restrict them.
@@calebkline3392 right
Caleb Kline The people who use then maliciously dont know how they work, so does it matter?
You can’t take guns from criminals - it would’ve been done already if you could. You can only take guns from people who legally own them. So, if you were to ban all guns, you would only be taking away innocent peoples ability to protect themselves. End of argument.
Chris literally just obliterated their argument without mentioning how handguns account for more shootings than "assault weapons"
After the news that came out today and the fact this video came out 2 years ago, I’m convinced someone at Vox is time traveling.
What news came out today?
New York Attorney General wants the NRA dissolved because of misused funds.
@@haydenman1234 Ah, interesting. Had no idea this happened. Thanks for the information.
That would be an edge for vox they will know the outcome of a political issue before it even happens yet
I just purchased my AR -15 assault tactical spoon with a bump stock that makes it shoot 5 soups per second top grade military weapon
lol
Yep your bad self with that expensive ammo..
please show where the 2nd spells out the gun types and amount people can own.
If anything as our military firearms advance, so should those of civilians.
hahah beautiful ... the crux of the lefts argument "but i don't like it" ... further this dolt thinks the founders would want the 2A restricted ! blahahahhah they are so clueless lololol
dpadil01
The meaning of the 2nd amendment has already been decided by the Supreme Court. That is why it isn't debated.
The founders were very clear about what kinds of weapons were to be protected:
The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans.
--Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
No they didnt make it broad. What do you not understand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? Shall not be infringed is very clear. The purpose of it was to make sure that the people are always more powerful than the govt, not hunting. Look up the founding father's quotes and documents if you want evidence. The liberal media tries to suppress history. The fact that we cant own the same weapons as the govt is already unconstitutional.
*confused Asian*
*PROUD* Asian
@Ramen Lover Yes
I’m an Asian and not confused. I know that putting our head in the sand doesn’t stop any criminals.
Confused whole world
4:45 "If you have a problem use a gun, and if that don't work use more gun"
-the engineer, tf2
Ok so if everyone that can legally own a firearm owns and carries a firearm, who is the bad guy, who can't legally own a firearm, going to rob ? Like. Idk about you but if I'm wanting to rob someone I'm gonna go with the guy that's not carrying a .45.
@@DIMMER-mk1op can't talk in reason to these people.. Why the world is the way it is...
500,000 to 3,000,000 defensive gun uses a year. So, no.
And the reason the gun debate is so screwed is because each state is different in its gun laws.
and the Las Vegas shooter legally bought two firearms while he was on a FBI watchlist the FBI said he was good to buy a gun while he was wanted
And I do agree that money is a huge factor in the gun debate and tilts it a lot
I don’t like the nra but please take these into consideration
Blaming the nra for mass shootings is like blaming a car company for a crash. Stupidity at it's finest
If you really think some 60 something gambler just decided to start shooting people, and disregard the eye witness reports, im sorry to say, the programming is in full effect.
Landen Chaudion you are so wrong it’s incredible. this entire video is an explanation of all the times the NRA has systematically prevented gun safety laws from going into effect, despite support for them!!! and hey, maybe you would be right, but we have no idea because the NRA has blocked pretty much every study the government has ever tried to conduct on gun safety and gun violence!
@@TheKara33 You are so wrong.
If the law officials cannot keep the peace what are they stealing my money for?
I am incredibly mad. It's becoming more and more clear to me as I get older that people are far more interested in lining their pockets than coming up with solutions that help people.
It makes me think that these damned rules are meant to be broken, and i bitterly weep that I've been too naive and cowardly to thumb my nose at money grubbing fools and break them myself.
Educate yourself please
@@mikebalderston2723 No they are educated very well on this subjected
@@mikebalderston2723LaPierre is on trial for fraud.
to stop a bad guy with a gun just dont give him a gun.
banning guns will push all guns to the black market. still will be possible for criminals to get a gun
So he'll get it from someone else -_-
@@bedebop3904 All the guns cannot sell in black market. If something becomes illegal, the prices will increase because of the cost of the risk of getting it into the market and when the prices increase and there's a risk of imprisonment for owning a gun, fewer people will buy it.
𝙄𝙩'𝙨 𝙈𝙞𝙨𝙨𝙆𝙚𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙖 look at europe
KingintheMountain you do realize that a gun can be made, there are untraceable guns, etc. Math is illegal to make and sell yet look at it. 😂
When seconds count, just remember the cops are only minutes away
zachary melin or in Douglas’s case, hours
zachary melin That was very well said, and I mean that.
So u agree at least for mandatory proper training for gun use right? Because if the good guys with guns are improperly trained, they may hurt themselves or people other than the shooters?
A. Ho well an easy counter to your argument would be “a constitutional right should apply to every American citizen. Even if they are poor and can’t afford specialized training”
Oh no I'm not arguing against having guns. I'm arguing against the idea that guns offer concrete security without proper training. Thank you for your cordial reply! :)
Ryan Deitch: *visible confusion*
Me: finally another human being.
Same
Oh, so the nra getting millions from gun companies are bad, but democratic candidates getting BILLIONS from organizations should be overlooked? Explain that one vox
@whyputaname2 ha,ha,ha that's funny, terrorist organization. Lmao
whyputaname2 I didn’t know fighting for our freedoms equaled terrorism...
Nra is national rights/rifle association
Yeah, except one sells things that kill people. The other doesn’t sell anything besides votes.
Dubilyoo falling back to the old and overused argument of guns kill people? Really? And also the ones you are referring to who sell the votes also want to take our freedoms so?🤔
I am in total agreement that news organizations need to stop validating the NRA. Naming it a lobbying group is completely accurate and the first time I’ve heard someone just come out and say it
NRA is a terrorist group. They are exactly like Taliban or IS - rely on age old laws, do not allow to change laws, make laws permanent and make human life horrible. Like Taliban or IS they create terror in public spaces and gatherings.
The NRA also has a history of promoting gun control to prevent black people from carrying firearms. They don't care about civil rights. They care about money. People need to understand that regardless of where they stand on the issue.
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
Lol dude every aspect of the mainstream media is controlled by one or more lobbying groups, get real for a second.
@@topster888 What media do you suggest that can be trusted? It also makes a big difference what lobbying groups they are and how they do it.
Lol it’s funny. They cited there own website for evidence 😂
Their
That is what newspaper do.. They do their own research than report on it. What do you think journalists do? Just repeat what others say?
that there's some darn good journalisming.
@@VyreXP
Uh yeah...
@@godofchaos6988 uhhh no
I think Vox is wrong to call the NRA a political lobbying group. $20M-$30M is pitifully small in the lobbying world. The power of the NRA is the volume of votes it can influence. It's more accurate to call the NRA a civil rights group because it's representing millions of voters who care about their 2nd amendment right. If the NRA didn't have the millions of voters who trust them then the politicians wouldn't care a bit about the $20M-$30M
Dark Shadow Storm yes discrimination based on age is a civil rights issue. Denying a constitutional right to 18-20 year old's based on the action of one 19 yr old is ridiculous. What next? Keep Muslims from buying rifles because san Bernardino of pulse nightclub shooting.
Yet only 10 to 13% of register gun owner are members.
I enjoy many of these videos, but sometimes I click off literally just because of the comment section.
Glad I'm not the only one who does that
Stella Moreno the problem is that if you enjoy these kinds of videos, you must be somewhat leftist. That’s not a dig at you or anyone else, it’s a fact. Vox is extremely leftist in their views, so no one that disagrees with their views will enjoy the video. That’s just a fact and that’s the problem. “Too much hate” comes from people annoyed that vox almost never uses accurate, bipartisan facts and examples, instead, they demonize the right and idolize leftist views, representatives and companies.
Good don’t come back
Xplosives, Yeah, I dislike the fact that so few news outlets provide multiple sides to a story. Thats why I dislike so many large news cooperations, (in north america atleast.) Vox is bad, but atleast they research their stories and don’t blatently lie, or fabricate evidence to support their claims. Vox also reports about important issues such as climate change, while many other news outlets don’t mention it or even deny it, and exist purley to mock, and agrivate people on the left side of the political spectrum. No political leaning is “better” but I find that these days, religion, climate change, and even basic things like equal rights for LGBTQ people, is split between the right and the left. Climate change for example is an easy to explain, unbelievably important part of our world now days but it seems that only left leaning poloticians acknowledge it’s existance.
Oh no, diffrent opinions, how awful
The NRA represents its millions of members. To ignore that and only focus on the companies is ridiculous sentiment. They're also the organization that brought background checks about they were also the organization that ended racist laws in the South not allowing black people to own firearms.
Who’s here after the NY Attorney General is sueing the NRA?
That happened?
yea, that happened? Did it go well, or is it still underway
ChidzHustle. It’s still happening. I just read an article where they talk about misusing money for private vacations and secret tapes of the NRA discussing their legal troubles and financial misconduct from two days ago.
Everyone... Obviously
It happened long time ago. Nothing new happened to the NRA. I guess the NRA made sure they wont be taken down this time
I will never respect NRA after what they did to black panthers
That happened a long time ago bud.
What did they do?
Well that’s like saying you’ll never forgive the Democrats because they’re the ones who fought to retain the right to own slaves 🤷🏾♂️
Killer D nice try buddy but I hate dems also. Plus I’ll never forgive Bill Clinton for mass incarceration. And I’ll never forgive Biden either
@@justadummy8076 the parties have done a switch a roo :)
one fewer.
Two fewer.
3 fewer
great, I get likes for people who relate and comments from those who think vox is a great news source.
You watch vox regularly?
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE STILL DON'T REALIZE THAT ALL THAT GUN LAWS EVER DO IS MAKE IT HARDER FOR HONEST PEOPLE TO BE SAFE--- NOT CRIMINALS!!!
These comments are going to be toxic
Aaron Hamilton Any video based on political subjects will be toxic.
Aaron Hamilton yeah hahahahahha
If the majority of Americans agree about increasing gun control, why do these comments exist?
Bilal Baig because the Americans that are passionate about guns are very loud about it
Bilal Baig because the media doesn't fully represent the ideas in this country. Trust me, there's a sizable group that doesn't want changes to gun laws, and aren't shown on television. It's kinda like (i think it was Nixon who said this) the silent majority complex, although how many there are i do not myself fully know.
"Gun sales spiked after mass shootings" I think this should convey a significant message
Seel Of Apoorval because if some normal person heard of a shooting they would buy a gun to protect there loved ones
Ang badang lmao y’all stupid it’s because the wackos want to buy a ton of guns before the big evil government steals away your murder machines
Yea, think of it like this. You live in a small town and a roberry goes down with the gunman killing many people. Wouldn't you want to buy guns to now protect yourself from this new threat?
No it isn't a significant message at all. It is because a lot of people on the left openly say banning all firearms. Its scare buying. That's it. It isn't a bunch of people buying guns because they want to emulate mass shootings. Anyone who thinks that normal gun owners of America are okay with mass shootings lives in a fantasy world. But people will be damned if they try to take stuff away. Think of it like this, the right to bear arms is a civil right and a constitutional right. It's also one of the only rights that is constantly under assault and being further and further pushed back and infringed. Gun owners are sick of it and they want more rights to things they think are cool and interesting and tbh, they have a constitutional right to them. Unless that changes gun control will never stop and there will always be a side pushing for more rights.
It does,
We the people will take arms, because what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance...
Gun control supporters and apologists refuse to look at the bigger picture:
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
• 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons - gun violence
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose-THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)
Now it gets good:
• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!
• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides......Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!
So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
Taking away guns gives control to governments.
The founders of the USA knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. Americans must preserve it at all costs.
So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power."
Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is “control," not “gun."
Here are some unbiased sources:
ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf
www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/
30000 a year stills seems pretty big to me comparing it to something else doesn't mean that those 30000 people are insignificant. This is just another example of false equivalence. Yes I see that there are bigger problems like heart disease but it seems like a more natural way to die compared to dying from guns. Also I don't want a world where all my neighbors have guns because sure i will also have a gun to protect myself but intruders, robbers and other criminals can get guns by killing us. which may make us a target. These are the fears I have about guns based on statistics that I'm too lazy to re-locate and cite which state that owning a gun makes you more likely a victim of gun violence.
brandon chan Did you ignore the part about drug overdoses?
Banning drugs doesn’t stop that so why would banning guns stop gun violence?
Also, 25% of the nation’s gun crime happens in four of the cities with the strictest gun laws.
@@brandonchan5620 your neighbors already own guns. and its not the state that is dangerous, just avoid like 4 cities and your fine, and dont run in a gang. you will be just fine.
too much logic here...
ban assault burgers now!
Another way "stop a bad man with a gun" is to create a just, equitable, compassionate society that does not produce "bad men."
Yeah unfortunately no society has “no bad men”
You can wake up now.
I too like to live in dreamland.
there will always be bad man lol
@@clement6173 I'll give up my gun when I'm the last bad man with a gun :)
A century ago, the fledgling car industry created the term 'Jaywalker' to victim blame pedestrians....
See _Adam Ruins Everything_ or _99% Invisible_ if you're interested.
But what if I sexually identify as an ar-15?
You'd be an Ammosexual haha
lol
that needs to be on a t-shirt. lol
That would be non-binary, sir.
Its not the gun its the person, change my mind.
1967 Shelby - Nobody responded 😂😂
@@yodamaster757 except you
true, true.
It’s literally both. That’s how the physics of machines work.
The whole point of the video can easily be disproven by pointing out that the biggest part of NRA's revenue comes from membership fees. 39.4% in 2022, to be exact.
Maybe it's because I grew up in a country with a long standing tradition of involving schools and students in politics, but after seeing your last video and this one - I am outraged by the disdain and neglect shown to these students. American democracy no longer exists for its voters, but for its oligarchs
Dixie Normas and how can that be? Are Americans just that much more violent then the rest of the world? Cause what you just described is not the case in other western countries, so I would like you to answer as to how come Americans are so eager to kill one another
Dixie Normas
Out of 100 mass shooters maybe 10 could build a bomb. Out of the 10 maybe 1 could make a chemical weapon. When you factor in the fact that mass shootings are deadlier than bombs, which are deadlier than chemicals, I would rather there be 1 chemical attack with 2 deaths than 100 mass shootings with 20 deaths each.
The point of law is to reduce, not completely prevent. No law is 100% effective. Coconuts kill more people than sharks each year, but do we tear down the shark nets at beaches? Not everyone can build a bomb or chemical weapon, but in the current state, anyone can very easily get a gun. The point of laws is to reduce that number. And if it doesn't completely prevent it? That's still good enough. Again, no law is 100% effective. Drug laws aren't 100% effective, we see overdoses all over the country, but we still have them. Because without them there would be even more. And less is good enough.
Just because we can stop all deaths, doesn't mean we shouldn't stop the ones we can.
Dixie Normas lol
Dixie Normas jesus christ, nothing you said forms a coherent argument. "Less guns is not gonna solve anything because people will use bombs, or napalm or blabla" YOUR OPINION IS WRONG AND NOT FACTUAL. You're an idiot repeating faulty arguments at nauseum.
Dixie Normas "Getting rid of the tool is not going to help anyone or anything." Literally every single study into that subject disagrees with you.
NRA didn’t come to Kenneth Walker’s defense. Oh right, he’s black.
dont forget Philando Castile, also black
They always try to mitigate gun control, until it comes to minorities
The nra supported Reagan passing the strictest gun laws when the Black Panthers were rising as a powerful deterrent to police brutality and lynching
Too bad Kenneth walker tried to murder law enforcement officers
@@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005 That is the purpose of 2A, to protect yourself and the people from the tyranny of the govt. Or at least in the minds of only of conservatives.
"Shall not be infringed" is supposed to mean something. Stay away from our RIGHTS.
Yeah, and the people who made that amendment are the same people who supported slavery, didn't give women, blacks, native Americans and non property owning males the right to vote. And also, Thomas Jefferson advocated that the Constitution should be changed every 19 years, because he believed that as America changes, the laws must adopt to the new changes of the country.
And also fun fact: when the University of Virginia opened in 1824, it prohibited firearms to be used and bought into the campuses. And two founding fathers made that prohibition, now who were those founding fathers?, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. The authors of the Second Amendment
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 A minor point, but I believe the U of Virginia was established in 1819 and not 1824.
Students were prohibited from having guns on campus but not guns in general. A student of that age could own a gun at that time, and the prohibition didn't ban guns on campus. It didn't allow students to have guns, but there was no prohibition of faculty and staff having guns on campus.
Again, there was no law at the time preventing people that age from owning guns. A rule at a college is not law. The school I went to didn't allow us to chew gum on campus, but there was no law preventing us from chewing gum. The school could do nothing about our gum chewing away from campus.
Ok so the government isnt trying to take our guns... *turns on TV... Sees politican Beto ... " yes we are going to take your guns." Smh ... they admit to trying to take guns its not a lie ... and why send your kids to a school where theyre not protected
*Gets a pro-gun ad before this video*
Shredder McScumbag lol
Shredder McScumbag LMAO
you still get ads?
Same
Same. VOX just got played 😂
Brilliant comparison to big tobacco.
Sir Alfred Lawrence The video did not talk about both tobacco and guns being civil rights. It talked about how the NRA, which is funded by big gun companies, is similar to the tobacco companies who formed the tobacco Institute, as the two groups made up distractions and fake issues to evade the questions of the consumer.
A cigarette is not going to protect me
A a good guy with a guy will
Sir Alfred Lawrence Funny, because the NRA isn't actually a civil rights organization either.
Henry Stax i would too
Tobacco isn't in the Bill of Rights, and it's still legal to use for anyone over 18/21 so it's even less regulated than guns currently are.
i dont want gun, I WANT A TANK!!!!!!
You can actually buy a tank.
Chase Messer yeah but if america want protect second amendment rather legalized AR-15 the gorvement should subsidized tank to affordable price rather a good guy with a gun we have good guy with a TANK!!!😄😄😄
I want 2 TANKS!!!!!
I want both
Fine, im getting the F4 Phantom II
Comparing a gun to a spoon is like comparing a Volkswagen Beetle to a tank
There is no constitutional right to tobacco
so let's amend the constitution, giving everyone the right to bear tobacco, and we'll see how things go for you next time someone tries to invade your house.
@Asher JM Leask "find possibly the worst pro-gun argument there is"
What argument is that?
**Confused Canadian Noises Intensifies**
U use slingshots?
Or sky’s?
Nope, we talk to kids in schools politely
Yeah school shooting in Canada is not talking politely.
@@orangecheese6773 since 2009 Usa has had 288 school shootings, vs Canada which has had 2. Thats a significant difference. I feel like politeness plays a small role in that.
@@orangecheese6773 also no kids were killed in either. In one instance the shooter himself asked the teachers to take the 53 students away and to safety before he started. He only killed one 43 year old and then killed himself
What is vox?, is this suppose to be a parody lmao
It's not about rights, or patortism, it's about money. Loobyist giving millions to key Republicans to not make gun restrictions no other. Change leadership and make laws to protect citizens. Vote out the Republicans stopping what 85% of Americans want change.
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The dislike ratio just shows just how .... ugh.....
just shows?
@@countravid3768 Shows how wrong Vox is.
@@1911GreaterThanALL Because thats what tells if someone says the truth?
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 NRA doesn't Hijack anything. They showed up to the debate and members argue in place for them. The NRA wouldn't exist without their members.
1911GreaterThanALL They hijack debates because they lobby politicians to not have a debate. Like Mitch McConnell who received a $1,700,000 right before he blocked a gun legislation bill from even having vote on the senate floor
Every single thing in this video is ridiculous. Don't believe me? Check out Steven Crowder's debunking video.
Yea, like he's a credible guy...
Really Vox, What a bunch of crap. Lets see anyone from Vox debate anyone from the the NRA. Ben Shapiro at his talks puts anyone with an opposing view up front during his Q&A segment. Never seen you do that!
"He who knows only his side of the case knows little of it." Jonathan Stuart Mills. One of my favorite quotes Michael. I constantly remind my facebook friends who I feel are drifting too far left or right of that fact. I just feel that Vox has gone,along with the major media, too far at demonizing the NRA after the Parkland event. I am an ex NRA member who dropped for numerous reasons but I never felt these people were only there to represent gun companies and didn't care about the horrible loss of life occurring at these shootings.
Why do we just focus on guns? Why not mental health? No law biding person and healthy minded person is going to shoot up a place! If someone purposely runs into someone we don’t say that the car killed the person, the person driving killed the person.
Notice how much they edited the democratic congressman’s interview
Did he say something that is also relevant or contradicts the Point?
Have you heard of much politicians talk?
Nobody needs to hear all that
Lets see if vox has the balls to debate Crowder
I've been playing violent games for years and I have never felt violent and I have only experienced the opposite.
I live in Canada and we have a huge spike in gun violence due to the massive influx of illegal firearms from the US, do I need a bazooka to defend myself or a basic AR-15 will do the job? Thanks NRA!
Not America's fault, sorry.
I don’t like how the Florida guys quote was heavily edited . Seems like it was chopped and put together like that .
Toby James It wasn’t.
Do you feel that he was misquoted or taken out of context... or that it was done to tighten up the pacing, to retain viewers' interest?
Is that what you are worried about after watching this video!?
It’s because they edited out the pauses...
λ which were annoying in the first place
Finally, some sense into the debate. Right on point, Vox! Specially the undeniable analogy between the NRA with the Tobacco lobbying companies.
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
What's scary, is that these "gun control" people are serious.
They are also out of their ever-loving minds.
If spoons are just as dangerous as guns, why have a problem with gun control? You could just carry concealed spoons for self-defence
Ah yes love at first shot, sponsored by Smith & Wesson
i would like to think they give guns to love interests, and make them shoot eachother.
Is it normal that I got scared at 0:17
Jasmeet Singh yeah that woman is intense
Is it normal that I was slightly turned on..
@@jfthereaper927 you need help
@@Venicouseshe could definitely help me. You don't like beautiful women.?
@@jfthereaper927 no
Guns are bad 😔
But spoon ..... Spoons are worsts 😲😵
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Don't get near me...
I have a spoon.
Dont assault me you spooner!
They are assault weapons
Yes, we need more good guys with guns. Part of being good however is proper training then they MUST carry their gun safely wherever they go. This is so simple people.
This is why you support the GOA
Lolo Wood 0 comprise
I've been thinking about it
I'm pro 2nd, anti NRA. I care about citizens, not companies.
I love Vox's graphics. I appreciate stuff like this because I am in the learning industry. Your graphics support comprehension. 😍😍😍
It's unfortunate that their lies and misunderstanding of facts doesn't help comprehension.
I hope you don’t teach anyone anything. Because if you believed anything in this video then you prove yourself to be inept.
Debating SCHOOL SHOOTING SURVIVORS on how dangerous guns are is the dumbest idea I can think of.
Your being sarcastic right ...
A dumber idea would be to volunteer to make yourself weaker by not being armed.
Outlaw guns and ONLY outlaws will have guns...
Caracas Venezuela has the highest murder rate in the world...
Guns are also completely illegal there and gun free zones are everywhere...
Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in europe...
And 1 in 2 people there owns a gun...
JUST SAYIN'
I agree
Germany has almost no guns and its murder rate is just as low. Just sayin...
@@DerAua Keep in mind, most shootings in the US occur in gun free zones and the ones that don't have been stopped by another guy with a gun.
Venezuela also doesn't have free and fair elections, and their society is economically collapsing. Meanwhile, Switzerland is a socialist democracy with free and fair elections. Switzerland does have high gun ownership, but the ammunition is heavily regulated. You'll find many homes with guns, but very few with bullets.
Moreover, The U.K. and Australia have also heavily restricted guns, and they haven't turned into NRA dystopias.
@@JakobNorthblood You forget the other reason for the right to bear arms. If we didn't have fire arms, a government take over could be even more problematic. Also there are cheaper ways to commit mass murder: cars, fireworks, fire, etc.
More Vox propaganda
Laughs in British
Just don’t get stabbed
Or ran over
@@blakedavis2447 Or shot, yes they still have guns in Britain legal and illegal.
@@Cacowninja yea but Britain doesn’t have more guns than people
@@blakedavis2447 Doesn't matter, the criminals get guns anyway. Plus there might be more guns that people since there are illegal ones.
THINKING THAT PASSING GUN LAWS WILL PREVENT CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING GUNS MAKES EXACTLY AS MUCH SENSE AS THINKING THAT PASSING GUN LAWS WILL PREVENT CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING KNIVES!!!!!
NO, all guns should be banned, the rest should be confiscated; this silly gun law to ban only few types of guns won't work.
@@handsometall28And who does the confiscation now that guns are completely banned? The police? With pepper spray and batons? Since at that point being banned, surely government agencies won’t be allowed to have any
The answer to all of this: move to Canada.
@@MuchCow9000 or sneak into people house and replace their guns with nerf guns but painted realistically
@@MuchCow9000 plot twist : gets shot for trespassing first
@@itsakorgi5874 exactly
@@MuchCow9000 that's not gonna stop criminals from getting one though
But there I can't get a gun
My dad was a Sargent in charge of a gun squad in WW2 under Patton. He was an extreme marksman and fought from Normandy through the Hedge row country and all the way to Bastogne. I've never seen anyone more experienced with firearms . He was requested to train snipers and SWAT teams after he got back which he turned down. Dad wasn't fanatical about firearms ,but firearms seem to be everything he was interested in ,and his knowledge of firearms was as good as his shooting skills. Sad to say but he probably was a very good killer. When he was promoted to a Sargent he was given a Thompson, pretty much the same as the AK types or the Auto Killing guns . He turned it down. He had clearance to shoot at any police ranges with no reservations. His shooting skills astonished anyone around him and especially the police. He squirrel hunted with a revolver and I never saw him miss . One time leaving a police range an officer followed him out and asked him if he was joined up or with the NRA . Dad just replied "No". The officer said " Hank with your skills why wouldn't you join" Dad just dropped his head and "No I'm not interested in the NRA " ,and we walked away. I was only about 7 years old and I never questioned his opinions about firearms , but I wish I knew the answer or the reason why . I've never joined or will ever join the NRA , but what I know for myself I wouldn't and maybe I know his answer.
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Currently in Guns politics, NRA is not favored by the modern gun enthusiast
We support gun owners of America. That’s the new hip organization.
NRA been found to have anti-gunners in the organization
Or as I like to call them constitution traders
00:00 Well for a start, it isn't a picture
for a start, technically, everything you see is a picture. A motion picture in this case, but still a picture
Ya, last i heard there were still 5 million official nra members. Don't act like they only represent the industry.
34% of their revenue comes from private companies, up from 27% in 2013
Meanwhile membership dues accounted for 39% of their revenue *down* from 50% in 2013
If the revenue from gun companies is growing, they're going to respect the interests of those companies. Not to mention 34% is still a huge part of their revenue and most of those 5 million members also support the interests of the companies
"They will perish
In the political flames
Of their own fires"
Ok.....chill
lol like deadass relax😂
FYI I heard the one of the mass shooters constantly played a dancing video game. Not one that
has violance in it!
thats it we need to ban dancing all together. I am convinced this will stop all future mass shootings
I can protect my family, a god given right guaranteed in our constitution. I'm a Army veteran and former deputy, I have taken the oath twice to uphold the constitution twice...NOBODY takes nor regulates my right away-period.
rights are subjective. defensive gun use is exceedingly rare, and they ultimately facilitate excess violence and death. when we assume human autonomy and free will, we assume human suffering, but our gun epidemic is causing SO much suffering. at some point, we have to figure out what we value, the lives of our children and police officers, or someones "right" to purchase an assault weapon without a background check. were not trying to take away *your* gun, but we are trying to put legislation in place to prevent mass shootings, death, and violence.
NRA: Let's stop gun violence!
People: How???
NRA: BRUH buy more gun
Let's stop gun violence!
How?
BRUH ban gun so only criminals have gun, just like South America and mexico
Ulvade was planned by some sick evil whacko! Those lives were expendable to reach a goal, those kids and those teachers didn't matter. The police were in on the plan, the border patrol was not. Ask yourself what resulted from the murders at Ulvade, who benefited from the murders? Look at the big picture and use your common sense, look at the murderer and his circumstances. Why was Kyle Rittenhouse prosecuted? Why do the politiians want to disarm the folks who never broke a law, by passing a bill that allows the government to take away the arms of law abiding citizens and ignoring due process? Because the elites have plans for the country and you're not on the winning side of the changes they have in store for us. Be prepared, we are in for some tough times.
Do you guys ever get tired of the dislike ratio your video gets when you spread misinformation about guns?
Ha ha ha i was thinking about that
Why is it misinformation?
Thanks for the reminder to hit that thumbs down. :) (On them...not you)
Guns sell because people start talking about banning them.
guns definitely sell faster when people are concerned that their access to them may become limited in the near future.
true is 100% American
@ I have an AR-15 and I have no desire to kill innocent people. I didn't buy it to honor them either. I bought it because I like shooting and foxes, coyotes and disease-ridden raccoons are a problem where I live.
It would be great if they linked the studies that they referenced throughout the video
They can't because they don't exist
Erm what about just have a better look .. the sources are literally on the given figure itself
If by “figure” you mean the video itself and if by “sources” you mean a couple few-second-long clips of people talking about the NRA then yes, those “sources” are there. But I could care less about people’s opinions, I want to see the CONCRETE STATISTICAL DATA that they are basing their opinion on. If such statistical data is link somewhere in the description then please drop that link in a replay to this comment as, if it actually exists, I have obviously overlooked it. But, as far as I can tell no such data is linked. If you somehow found this data outside of this video please provide me with the link.
Adam Peck for every statistics they use as an argument they gave a source(paper title,university and year) on the figure itself
@M AK where?
Here in Washington State, magazines with > 10 rounds are now illrgal. Since the Suprrme Court found these laws unconstitutional how do we fight this?
Richard Kates
You forgot to mention about the millions of lifetime members that are law abiding citizens that contribute millions of dollars.
Life Member here.
Anybody think of south park with the episode of “they took our guns”
"They took our guns, let's stab them"
*Grabs knife*
Why is planned parenthood, which makes plenty of money, taken seriously in the debate on abortion control?
Planned parenthood is a non-profit.
@@keir3283 So is the NRA
Planned Parenthood is a health organization and actual has what's best for the people who use their services in mind
@@elyserice6581 The NRA has what's best for the people who support them.
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In your opinion....
The real question is if the logic that just because the bad guy has a gun the good guy should have one as well then why does USA gets Disturbed when other countries get nuclear weapons...I mean they can also say that they r only protecting themselves