Why US gun laws get looser after mass shootings
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- Congress has rarely acted. But gun laws have been changing.
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For decades, the US Congress failed to make meaningful movement on gun reform in the aftermath of mass shootings. But that weak federal response has obscured another story: that state gun laws change after mass shootings all the time. And a study found that, in Republican-controlled state legislatures, a mass shooting roughly doubles the number of laws loosening gun restrictions in the next year.
In this video we look at Texas, where decades of mass shootings in the US have been met with laws that expand gun access. We spoke with Flo Rice, a survivor of the 2018 Santa Fe High School shooting, where a gunman killed 10 people. Flo was shot six times. She and her husband, Scot, became advocates for gun safety, and tried to get tighter gun laws passed in Texas. Watch the piece above to see what happened, and what their story reveals about who has power when it comes to gun policy in the US.
SOURCES:
Here’s the 2020 study on gun laws we reference in the video: www.sciencedirect.com/science...
The Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence has lots of resources to understand gun laws in the US. We mention that the US has only had a few major federal laws enacted on guns. You can learn more about some of them here: giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-la...
The Texas Tribune has lots of information on the state’s gun laws. Here is one of James Barragán’s recent articles: www.texastribune.org/2022/05/...
The Texas Tribune also has this timeline that helped us develop ours:
apps.texastribune.org/feature...
The Texas Political Project tracks public opinion on gun laws every few months: texaspolitics.utexas.edu/poll...
The RAND Corporation has been tracking gun laws across the country in their database: www.rand.org/pubs/tools/TLA24...
OpenSecrets has lots of data and resources on lobbying and political contributions: www.opensecrets.org/news/2022...
Chapters:
The gun cycle: 00:00
The study: 1:41
Texas: 3:12
Gun laws across the US: 7:11
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I'm keeping my guns, snowflakes.
we need more guns in the country, people who want to use guns will always find a way to get them
Your gun control agenda is DOA!
PARTY!!!!!
Not surprised, but it is interesting to see Vox openly admit that they see your natural rights as "obstacles".
@@9mmshort254 you'll understand when you lose a loved one bcoz some rando kid was able to get firearms easily
...a country where people see guns as a right, but housing, healthcare, education, liveable wage, etc. as a privilege. Smh...
True, when you put it like that
True, when you put it like that
The privilege of living in a white country, you mean...
Say it again.
That's how it should be though. A right is something more on an ideological line; allowing people the right to protect oneself should be an explicitly stated right. Homes, healthcare, wages, etc are and have always been privileges. You're not entitled to those.
At this point, politicians should be made to wear a banner telling us which company is sponsoring them
Gun control does not work
Yeah that would show democrats as true crooks.
How would you even fit all the banners then?
@@enderjed2523 Smith&Wesson would certainly have one of the biggest, not to forget the auto lobby and the tobacco industry of course...
@@sergiofreitas9368 If you stitched all the banners together, they’d probably be large enough to make a circus tent out of, and still have enough cloth spare for patchwork later on.
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.
it isnt the guns that cause these shootings, its the people behind those guns. we can't control a person's mind!
It don’t tho
@@imanuelextreme6142 I’d guess that’s why you shouldn’t allow dangerous people to get easy access to guns. You don’t have to directly control a person, just their access to firearms.
@@Lenevor It do though. The US has a much higher murder rate than any other Western country to begin with (8 times that of Germany, 12-13 times that of Switzerland). And mass murder sprees make up a much larger proportion of those deaths than elsewhere.
Knife crimes and assaults still have gone up on the same curve more or less that gun crimes have outside the US. Weapons aren't the issue; people and culture and society is.
even growing up in a rural part of canada, *most* people around me realized guns are a weapon, or a tool, not some flashy toy. there was way more respect and responsibility shown for guns *most* of the time. people were/are very strict about how, why, where & when they're used, and pass that serious attitude onto the youth too, which is very, very important.
people have to take weekend long courses to get their gun license, and that includes a practicum portion w/ the instructor at the end. they also make it very clear that it's not 'funny' or 'a game' during the course. they'll kick you out/report you if they sense you aren't taking it seriously (happened to someone in my brother's course once) and so on.
you have to renew your license every 5 yrs (in most places), they background check you for life now when you apply and you have to register all you guns too - just basic things that should/need to be happening everywhere - if you let the public own firearms to begin with.
i'm VERY lucky i grew up in a community where most people had respect for guns, and in a country where the public can't conceal carry.
Gun control does not work
Now THIS is what gun regulation should be!
That same respect for the danger and seriousness of guns is held in the mountain west of the USA, and I would assume it would be the same for the majority of the rural USA as well.
USA culture is different from Canada when it comes to how we see the government. The laws here are foundationally meant to protect the individual from the state; whereas in Canada the law are more about keeping law and order. Gun restrictions take away individual's rights, but also make law and order easier if only the state has the guns.
@@blondie7240 How are guns going to protect you against tanks and fighter jets?
You know which other countries have strict Gun control? South America and look up their homicide and gun violence rate.
I swear, living through this feels like reading a dystopian novel and thinking this is too outlandish to be possible, then realizing it is actually the reality. It’s hard to believe.
Summarizing all of the gun problems in the U.S. in 1 sentence: The National Rifle Association bribes politicians to do nothing about gun control, & then those same politicians go on national media claiming there's nothing they can do about mass shootings while also encouraging more gun sales.
sadly, a lot of the thought leaders grew up reading dystopian stuff and thought 'hey, that looks like a future I want to have power in!'
Yeah. Hard to believe so many laws take away our abilities to defend ourselves.
It is in the USA. Anything that sounds dystopian and can make money, you can be rest assured the USA will try it first.
@@flipingboredcritic one key reason behind this : when you look at conservative ethics in the US, it is heavily rooted in 'who', not 'what', meaning the morality of an action is weighed by who is taking the action on who, not what the action is.
Thus, dystopian models are highly desirable since making money is 'good' (at least if you are WASP, otherwise you are evil and taking oppurtunity away from people who deserve it more), so if a dystopian configuration makes people wealthy, that means they are good people, and thus their actions are moral.
As someone who lives outside the US I always feel so awful to hear about mass shootings. But I don't know what to feel for the US anymore. I know there are so many kind and amazing people living in the US. Yet I feel so numb about all the bad news in the US nowadays. Healthcare, abortion, guns, racial inequality... Part of me think that what the US needs is a revolution from the people. But the people are so divided and I don't think that will solve the problems.
It's not, it's gonna break up like ussr.
The main issue is all the boomers that lead the country can’t except change
Every country has what it deserves, I'm fron Mexico so definitely not pointing fingers.
US is good with the Americans. It is actually great the way it is. I wish BR and ISR were the same
Hopefully they can find a proper solution..
I live outside of the USA in a country with very strict gun laws. I never thought it was a problem and never felt unsafe because of it. Actually I don't think a lot about guns.
But then I went to the USA as an exchange student. And I had to participate in "active shooter drills". My class mates told me how many of their families had guns at home. Guys talked about going shooting on the weekends. It seemed like there were guns everywhere. When I told my hosts parents that I was worried about all these kids in high school having access to their parents guns ... he looked at me and said "don't worry. I have a gun, maybe it would help you, if I give you your own gun".
I never touched a gun! But it seems for some people a gun problem can only be solved by more guns...
America moment 💀💀💀
Gun supporters: The right of owning guns is written in the constitution!
Well, I guess when constitution was established, nobody had ever thought of the probability of massive shooting? Maybe.
@Exculpatory Shōgun Not trusting your government is not a reason to arm citizens. Armed citizens wont stop the rising of a dictator or the government making weird laws any better than non armed citizens. Also i trust people who went under strict gun training and a psychological test (like police and army should) way more than a random citizen with a gun.
@@sepp3828 Why do you trust law enforcement to have the arms when law enforcement routinely abuse their authority? Defund the police.
What I don't understand about gun rights is, that people are allowed to have a gun to protect themselves. It must be very dangerous and violence to live in the US that you have to own a gun to feel safe. And ironically other people owning a gun also make them don't feel safe. Gun is use to ensure safety for people who own it but also a threat to people who don't own it.
As someone who doesn’t live in the US I’m lucky to know I can walk outside without fear of being shot. You guys are truly the “freest” country in the world.
But you walk with the fear of geting hit by a car
@@johnobama6629 So you'd rather get shot to death, that's great philosophy right there... I dare wonder which one's more lethal
@@johnobama6629 The US has a higher knife homicide rate. Didn't you know?
@@johnobama6629Knife crime is worse in the US than the UK.
The violence rate in the United States is 3/100, Europe is a mediocre continent and I, as an average American citizen, have a higher standard of living than 90% of other average citizens in the rest of the world
As a person who lives in a country that does not have a gun culture. I cannot fathom how "Guns" can become so ingrained in a society and become a part of the culture of a country
Is called history
Me neither
@@leothel10n96 you know, we've used guns too, the USA is not the only nation with Gunpowder.
“White” Americans and their freedom to lord over others.
Maybe because we like being able to defend ourselves, our families, and our property. Or maybe it is the fact that we like having the option to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government. But I forgot you are so free and so protected by your government you have nothing to worry about 😂😂😂
Why is it that me being a History teacher, I have to worry about getting potentially shot and killed in my own classroom? Why is it that I have to worry about my students safety against a potential shooter? A school should be an environment of learning and safety.
Hence online schooling.
Criminals don't respect your opinions. We should all be safe and worry free wherever we are. There are laws everywhere and there are always people who choose to disregard them. Passing a law is not going to dissuade those who are already breaking laws. The war on drugs is going great so you want a war on guns?
@@theAnthonyvk what a completely useless reply. I guess if you want to be in this country you shouldn't go to a church, school, restaurant, grocery store, mall, park, hospital, bar/club, parade,
Media fearmongering.
A little unrelated, but as someone with a history degree and goes back on forth on getting in teaching history (in the usa lol) do you feel exceptionally targetted by parents and stuff for having some "agenda" when you just are teaching Real Things That Happened like slavery or internment camps? I have a huge passion for history but don't know how I could handle threats from parents for teaching things that simply happened in the past. Ignore my question if its personal!!
Never let a good crisis go to waste
After moving to Australia last December, the difference in gun culture, ownership, laws and behaviour is night and day in comparison to the United States. I've asked more than several dozen Australians I've met here how they feel about gun ownership and I've yet to hear a single one of them say that they feel a gun would make their daily lives safer. Now, I'm not saying that crime does not happen here, as it happens everywhere humanity exists. What I AM saying is that the gun legislation adopted by parliament in 1996 in concert with the behaviour of the people saw a reduction in gun crime and not one single mass shooting (described as shooting 4 or more persons in a single instance) since 1996. And before anyone asks, there ARE guns here...a LOT of them!
Hope you've been enjoying your stay in Australia! This country is amazing and I'm glad that safety isn't a huge concern for me
I think one of the important things that people from the US forget is that if criminals have guns, they're most likely to use them on other criminals. On their peers (in a similar manner as a lot of school shootings are done by their own class mates). So yes, guns will be in a country, but 'regular folks' will be way less likely to encounter them.
Encountered any giant huntsman spiders yet?
@@whiterappersworstenemy5773 There was one near the door last night when my wife and I got home from dinner in Southbank, actually...
The Crime rate was falling before the ban.
I'd like to see a study conducted comparing the number of mass shootings in red states vs blue states and if the numbers are comparable, investigate how the shooters are getting the guns. If the guns are coming over state lines, then federal action is the only solution.
Good point
There actually is, and it turns out that gun violence overall isn't changed... Actually, a number of shootings have been stopped by people who were allowed to carry in churches or legally conceal carry in public... Something Vox purposely neglects to mention in their video, and also neglects to mention a majority of other states where the trend is the exact opposite... Also, Arizona is the most lax state for gun control and hasn't had nearly as many incidents (if any) worth the news coverage.
i've seen stuff in the past saying gun violence is higher in red states not sure about mass shootings tho
@@klerb342 It's technically true. In that a single act of gun violence in my town will be a higher percentage than most major cities. Easy to use statistics to make a point you want when population in alot of places in in the hundreds.
@@Quadrenaro that’s why you use stats based on per/1,000 people and find that red states are MUCH more dangerous.
Missouri has 2 of the 5 U.S. cities with highest murder per capita.
Even just one piece of bullet loss by a hunter is a big news here in Japan. Generally takes more than one year to get a license, not a gun.
Japan doesn’t have guns in their constitution.
And yet your former prime minister still got merked by a homemade gun
@@Codmonster999 I'd rather have someone being killed by 3D printed weapons, than thousands of people, and thousands of *children* being killed by easily accessible weapons, legally or otherwise.
Firearms were the number one cause of death for children ages 1-19 in the United States in 2020, taking the lives of 4,357 children. With the exception of Canada, in no other peer country were firearms among the top five leading causes of childhood deaths.
@@blankii333 guns would still be easily accessible for criminals even if they were completely due to the sheer number of them here, significantly outnumbering people. Most "peer countries" also don't have nearly as much of a gang culture as the US, which is responsible for 3/4 of murders using firearms. A peer country in this context would be mexico or brazil which have a ridiculous number of gun murders despite having extremely strict gun laws.
@@Codmonster999 speak on it!!
Clearly the problem is that there are too few guns for good guys to defend themselves...
Yep more guns that will fix it surely?
More gun safety/training, better education system, better parenting, better moral values, less egocentrism, better family structure...these are complex social issues that when broken, can lead someone to do horrible things, with a gun, or without one.
"Ban them all" is just as much of a non-solution as "hand them out to everyone".
@@KBoon so gun control? Universal health care? Universal education? Free higher education? Agreed
@@richhornie7000 How would the Government pay for all of that "Free" Stuff without taxing the people into poverty? Also, Gun Control Leads to Dictatorships.
@@TheAllAmericanHoneyBadger you literally have countless examples of poor and rich nations alike doing exactly that. The US spent 2 trillion dollars bombing Afghanistan alone. How could a country like this say it doesn't have enough money for healthcare.
Laws get more lax due to the fact that this is a country based on the individual not the collective.
And the individuals don't care how many other individuals get slaughtered.
@@ratofvengence Don't care? I suppose it has nothing to do with the curtailing of rights with proposed security.
@@1911GreaterThanALL 'Proposed' security? Lol, EVERY other 1st world nation is FAR safer; but you know this. Several of those nations outrank the US in EVERY freedom index; but you know this also.
You just don't care. Any excuse.
@@ratofvengencego play with your toy soldier
@@noahsawyer7155why would he play with you?
Like a driver's license, not everybody should have a gun. You should have to pass a test to show that you are properly trained to use and store guns and ammo, and prove that you are mentally stable enough to carry one. And in order to keep them, you should be required to take the test again every once in a while to renew your registration. While the second amendment is important and people should have the right to protect themselves and their families, there is clearly something we are doing wrong for so many mass shootings to be taking place, and more unrestricted access to guns does not seem like the solution.
Such an easy solution and yet here we are
While I do support licensing let’s be honest do you really think it’s gonna pass constitutional muster especially after bruen ?
@@keetlecorn Come and take it then.
@Tactical Kitten I'm much more concerned about 3d printing them, but I would think someone who is not permitted to have a gun due to mental or criminal reasons already would have someone to watch over them. Admittedly, this would not stop everyone due to how the country treats the mentally ill, the elderly, the impoverished, and ex-criminals, but having good gun control shouldn't disturb good healthy people from having the means to protect themselves and their loved ones.
The irony here is that you can buy a car without a license, just not legally drive it... So that hasn't stopped people from running over crowds of people and killing more there than any mass shooting to date...
America, where the only solution to violence
IS violence . . .
Reminder: Roughly 3 out of every 4 Domestic Terrorists that killed at least 4 people since 2016 have been Caucasian Conservative men.
"at least it's not communism🤪"
Sometimes that’s the only answer buddy
they just have to capitalise over every problem instead of solving it
@LOAN NGUYEN they think it's normal to live like a video game
It's the "people would find a way to buy guns anyways" mindset thats the problem.
In Anxiety therapy we call this "Avoidance".
It's not a problem, it's reality; and a totally inescapable one. A free and well-armed populace is the solution.
@@rcdrury1 being reality doesn't change the fact that it's a problem tho
@@rcdrury1 also no. The solution is a gun-free population all tothether. Police and hunters are another thing. As you can see in europe, no guns means significantly less shootings
@@baobei9231 no, then you just get people driving trucks through crowds, bombings, mass stabbings, chemical attacks, the difference is even defending yourself even while unarmed is seen as a crime in most of Europe.
@@baobei9231 Yes, less SHOOTINGS, but the same DEATHS. They jsut don't use guns to do it, the result is the same. Almost like the tool isn't the problem here.
How about some history. In the early 1980's gun violence exploded - as a result of the burgeoning drug trade and gang violence. By the late-80's laws like "3 Strikes" and more aggressive interdiction on the part of the Federal government saw a rise in incarceration. By the mid-90's - when the Brady Law was passed = gun violence was already declining as gang members were incarcerated and drug use began to drop.
Fast-Forward a few years. Post 9/11 the US Government all but abandoned drug interdiction instead focusing upon anti-terrorism. By 2005 the US saw a rise in illegal drug use as drug cartels - seeing little resistance as the government was more interested in terrorism = began to fill the void. Concurrently with an increase in the drug trade and widespread opiate addiction the US saw a corresponding rise in gun violence - just as happened in the 1980's. "Cause & Effect" folks. Much of the gun violence is secondary to drugs while by 2005 onwards people incarcerated previously were beginning to get out of prison and back onto the streets to fill the legion of new addicts. Want to reduce gun violence = address what drives it. This is a lot more than an access to firearms issue. Think about it.
we cant just blame guns
@@theannoynggamerlovestheusa2566 Guns don't shoot bullets, drugs do.
Is it just me or does America seems to be on a downward trajectory? EDITED/ addition (I recently made a video on how the world is a stupider place and realized its not just America it seems to be an overall trend.)
It has been progressively worse and I'm suffering
The feeling i mutually shared. It is a country that chooses to stick to a constitution that was written a long time ago by people who meant well but that was 200 years ago there is so much more to the world today.
@@LoreEclectic How are you suffering?
Changing World Order. Civilizations have an age of death.
dont forget your hat captain obvious
Wow, what a brave woman. Props to her to speaking out about the issue.
She slayed
@@catlvr-kg9ol what that means
Whats so brave about making an innocuous documentary? It's not like she was reporting from an active shooting.
@@CoryHatfield some people don't understand bravery.
There is nothing brave about infringing a constitution. Especially one that was based on native american ideology which I am proudly am. I know my people need guns and so even tho America 🇺🇸 has conquered my people i will not go against the country and our 1st and 2nd amendment
I live in NH. We have some of the most relaxed gun laws in the country and one of the lowest crime rates in the country. But not all rules work for all places.
Doesn't fit their narrative
New Hampshire is 93% white. That's why you have one of the lowest crime rates in the country. And that's the overwhelming correlation to gun crime that nobody wants to acknowledge: RACE.
So instead we get all the liberal smokescreens focusing on gun laws, so we won't focus on which demographics commit most of the gun crime in America.
My buddy lives in New Hampshire also near Dalton Mountain he always says the same thing an armed Society is a polite Society, and I really find that to be true up there
I have a question. I'm not from the US, I'm from south africa. In my country, if a law is passed, it applies to the entire country which is about 9 "states"/provinces. I've seen that different states in the US have different sets of rules/laws. Why? Is it because the US is so massive or is it more political (like an aftereffects of the Civil war)?
@Exculpatory Shōgun ok that's interesting. Thank you for your reply ❤
@@buhle7651 That was the uncompromising condition that the 13 original colonies agreed to so that they can to band together against the British or this country would not exist.
The short version is that the federal government has their own rules and laws that applies to the entire country. Sometimes, though, laws or rights don't happen to exist under the federal government, which is kind of a holdover back from when the Consitition was first being formed as a way to stop states from getting too uppity. This probably would had caused uh.... issues, and made the Consititution a bit too ironclad. As a response, a dude named John Adams wrote up 10 amendments as a way to ensure that the Consitituion was very mutable instead immutable.
Of importance in this case is the 9th and the 10th here. The 9th Amendment states that any rights, laws, or privallages that isn't covered by the federal government is undeniably a right guartneed by the people and by the state unless stated otherwise, and the 10th states that the Consitiution isn't a immutable document and that the 10th exists entirely so that more rights can be either given or taken constitionally, which is exactly why slavery except under imprisonment isn't illegal anymore and how the entirety of Prohibition happened.
TL;DR: The 9th Amendment makes it so that people can have whatever rights the feds don't cover unless the states decide to cover it, and the states can have whatever rights they want unless those rights are covered by the Feds.
basically theres federal laws that apply to all states, but states can create additional laws, as long as they dont conflict with any federal laws
Yeah, that is why people in the US care much more about which state a person came from than basically any other country.
the American dream: moving out of the US
@Narja first mistake: now you’re thousands of dollars in debt for school
(Luckily you get a d fancy new piece of paper 🥳)
This. This hit home.
The dilemma: Where to?
or not getting pregnant in high school........because the new abortion law
For someone who has served in the army for over 10 years and been to eight different countries I am glad to be in United States of America. Other countries that claim to be so great I’ve been to two of those let me tell you they are not so good at all whatsoever
So much respect for those people after having experienced such a traumatic thing. And so little respect to law makers to bowing down to gun lobbying as their citizens keep getting shot.
The specific problems is with the partisan politics. For one, we need to make it easier for those with the appropriate training to carry weapons, but for another, we need to make it harder for those who intend to harm themselves or others. Democrats focus on one half of the equation, and Republicans focus on the other half.
If you cry hard enough, you might hurt the guns feelings. lol
@@CoryHatfield dude can you teach me how to be so cool, please?
You act like there's not more mass shootings in Chicago (Democrat run) than schools nationwide, combined.
@@stijnvth i mean when someone wants to do you harm what are you going to do about it? Be defenseless or have a means to protect yourself?
What an inspiring story! Foreigners (such as our friends at Vice) will sadly never understand that, for Americans, loosening gun laws IS reform. Like the AR-15, it saves lives. 😊
IKR these left wing organizations probably funded by the deep state to brain wash 50% of America and the whole world that taking away our right to defend ourself is somehow going to stop children from being killed.
We need armed teachers.
@@jcxzit"Left wing organizations funded by the deep state".
- While literally defending the gun manufacturers' billionaire business.
-Using the "deep state" fallacy, advocated by propagandists whose speech is funded by actual corporations...
Such a common sense exercise.
No training required to openly carry a gun? That's worse than no training required to drive. At least a car isn't a killing machine by design.
It is extremely more difficult to operate a vehicle compared to operating a firearm.
@@1911GreaterThanALL That means there is no hardship to speak of to require training. Why not require it? Something as simple as keeping the gun unloaded, making sure there is no round in chamber and never pointing the gun at someone unless you intend to shoot. That sort of training is going to save lives.
but like... a car is a killing machine
@@happyblt624 A car is a machine "designed" for transportation, not for killing.
@@Hardwaregeekx It's not designed to be a killing machine, but it can be turned into a killing machine. Have you even seen a single news article of a car accident and what it can do to people? Now imagine that, but with full intention
I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
“Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivo lous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not in terpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35-36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.”
- Scalia, page 8 of DC v Heller opinion (2008)
Some nuclear warheads are small enough to be carried in a backpack. I approve of this decision, the only way to stop a criminal with a nuclear warhead is a good guy with a nuclear warhead.
the founding fathers intended for civilians to own the same kind of weaponry the government does to prevent tyranny and authoritarianism such as the kind found in Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and Germany. when the government owned muskets, people owned muskets. when the government owned warships and cannons, people owned cannons. your logic is highly fallacious.
Thank you I think this may be the funniest thing I've read in a long time
@@MichelleObamasBBC you really think even with citizens owning guns they could stop fighter gets and tanks
Why is all news from America disappointing
maybe because...
Fr 💀
It’s not disappointing it’s the truth
Wait, you’re telling me news from other parts of the world can be GOOD!?
Disappointing in what manner Theps?
If someone breaks into your home and it's easy to get guns, both of you probably have one.
If it's hard to gets guns, both of you probably don't have one.
I'd much rather be in a scenario with no guns.
If someone breaks into your home and it’s hard to get guns you don’t have one because you are a law abiding citizen but the person who is breaking in your home does because they don’t care about the law
@@duckman2480 I didn't say it's illegal, I said hard to get.
The person simply wouldn't be able to get one if they've had run-ins with the law before, which is likely for a burglar.
@@Aci_yt have you heard of a luty incase you havent its a 9mm smg that can be made at home I would google and tell you the exact tools needed but I dont think I should google something almost the same as "how to make a gun" also there is always going to be a way to illegally get guns whether it be to make 1, smuggle 1 in, or to buy 1 off someone who got it the other ways
@@flazerrazer2992 True, but the likelihood is way smaller.
same
Absolutely depressing to watch this after what happened in Nashville this week. But the only way to change the reality is to keep bringing it up, speaking up, and discussing it.
Texas's logic seems to be if your dish is too salty, just keep adding salt, eventually the amount will cancel out the saltiness.
So that explains the brain damage exhibited.
@@freshlymemed5680 I'm sure that Arthur's a good guy. No need to refer to him that way.
never try to make an analogy again
@@none11flop9 works somehow though
Or a better analogy would be adding pepper. Pepper being the law abiding gun owners. Now it equalized the dish.
me a european : what the duck they doing over there
lemme go get some popcorn
The problem is, why should responsible gun owners be made to give up their 2nd amendment?
@@Neil-Aspinall they shouldn’t. A law abiding citizen is precisely what’s encompassed in “the people” outlined by the second amendment
@@Neil-Aspinall guns are really unnecessary if nobody had them is the first place so many deaths and shootings could have been avoided and Americans wouldn’t be in this position
We're suffering
Wonder if Scott found his wife faster than the entire Uvalde PD took to take down their target? 🤔
3:37 but of course you would not have needed to protect yourself if the shooter didn’t have a gun himself.
It’s a deterrent. Like a nuclear weapon.
@@HappyGuy-cn9po But if no-one had a gun there would be nothing to deterr
@@algotkristoffersson15 That’s impossible. In Mexico, “nobody” has guns and yet there are cartels who get their guns via the black market.
Criminals will get guns illegally because that is literally what a criminal does. If you take away guns, you are only taking them away from citizens who already follow the law.
@@HappyGuy-cn9poThey get their black market guns from the US.
@@hobbso8508 Just about 70% of them. The other 30% originate in Mexican police stations and military warehouses.
My point in saying this even if the stats aren’t enough, is that you can’t stop weapons from being acquired on the black market. Criminals will always get what they want or be arrested or killed in the process. Disarming law-abiding citizens will only embolden the criminals as we see with the Cartels in Mexico.
Coming from an Australian, America is just as foreign to me as China or Russia. America’s ineffectual systems and depth of corruption is staggering.
The truth is that based on multiple studies, 90% of the population aka the working class, has negligible impact on what legislations get passed. Only the rich get a say in lawmaking.
Your nation started as penal colony has, less people than my state while imprisoning people that were sick with covid while suppressing Liberties and Freedoms
@@orbitalpotato9940 Yeah, other OECD nations still have functioning democracies. We can still effect change. That's why America is a horror story to Australians/Canadians, etc.
How you doing on climate change?....
@@jmlkinc I would not be so sure about that with regards to Canada and Australia. Both may be better than the US but still have massive issues with corruption.
Sounds like a vicious cycle at the expense of the vulnerable to me: nothing more American
then leave
@@DarrinSK If only it were so easy.
@@DarrinSK Is that a representation of your ideals, of the American spirit you wish to promote?.. "Don't fight for change, run away"
Clip up!! 🔥 with 🔥
If you’re so worried, why don’t you just leave? I’ve heard Venezuela is a great place to live.
Because America doesn’t learn
I feel for those people all of these disasters could've been avoided
Yeah they could have, arm the teachers and other staff, increase funding to police forces and enforce stricter laws on violent crime, most fatalities caused by firearms are suicides, most murders are between gang members.
If only they had a gun...
7:38
This graphic looks pretty but it's difficult to tell which hexagon represents which state.
@Vox
The truth is that based on multiple studies, 90% of the population aka the working class, has negligible impact on what legislations get passed. Only the rich get a say in lawmaking.
I'm genuinely curious. Can you link me to those studies, please?
Citation?
@@taintedlogicng6985 He is not wrong. Basically that's the way that democracy works when every dish on the menu is rotten and mouldy. When there is no public control over what government and institutions do, it ends up in a monopoly, where when you have money, you have direct or indirect power over legislation and regulations.
@@Yonggbaek Page, B., Gilens, M. (2014). Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens.
@@taintedlogicng6985 Page, B., Gilens, M. (2014). Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens.
Some people just never learn from their mistakes
Loosening gun laws after shootings is like removing the brakes in cars after an
accident.
It boggles the mind.
Don't give them ideas
Well I understand both sides of reason, unfortunately I don't know which policies are actually more effective at preventing such shootings.
Red laws intend to arm more people and encourage self defense.
Blue laws intend to restrict weapons to people and ensure only competent mentally sound receive guns.
Blue certainly sounds very nice as stopping the shooting initially is ideal, however as I've stated I'm not really certain which policies are the most effective.
@@heatedwafflez5475 Its a numbers game: In Europe there are close to no shootings and there are very few guns in private hands. If you dont have a gun, you cannot shoot someone, so the fewer guns you have in total, the lower is the risk of shootings.
@@mrmuffin3928 Alright, how would you go about removing 380 million guns from civilian ownership without causing a civil war?
If only politicians could agree on something
I hope one day they can all agree that you have an individual right to keep and bear arms, outside the context of a militia. Seems enough politicians still deny the opinion of DC v Heller
They can! Every politician agrees that the other side is wrong!
Politicians on both sides agree that Super PACs and lobby groups are good for the nation. The more money they spend, the better.
They all agree that the working-class public are a nuisance to be ignored
@@BambiTrout and that the military budget can always go up but there isn't a single penny for the people
Thank God i do not live in the US
Better not be a brit
I'm going to say it; We don't have a gun problem, we have a *LIVING IN A DEPRESSING BLEAK DYSTOPIA* problem.
Yes, there are some gun laws we should implement, particularly more intense screening and training.
But if you want to take gun violence (and violence in general), down a few notches, tackle the crisis that living in this country is.
Look, I live in the same depressing cost of living, unlivable wage, monopolistic corporation controlled, and ineptly governed world you do, and I don't take to the streets with a few pounds of iron... *BUT TAKING A LOOK OUTSIDE IT'S NOT FREAKING HARD TO SEE WHY SOMEONE WOULD*
TL;DR Violence will always be a problem when the future and present look as bleak as they do.
Violence is the underlying problem, but think of it this way
Climate Change is the underlying problem for increased flooding, but that doesn't mean you stop putting up sandbags.
You can combat the effects of the cause while also trying to combat the cause.
yes, we need more socialized healthcare and mental healthcare. Guns per family have been the same since the 70's, crime has risen since the 1990's. The widespread coverage of violence and the lack of mental help is what i believe is a cause of this. I'm very pro-gun and i want to see the end of this violence. but i think we need to address people side of it. We need to help those kids who feel the need to do thee crimes.
I've never seen a gun in my life, greetings from Europe 👋
Greetings from the US of A 🇺🇸
In 1774, 250 years ago, England banned guns/gunpowder in colonial America!! attempted gun confiscation by the English army in April 1775 started that 8-year war for American independence & England almost won that War!! Then England came back for the War of 1812-1815 burned Wash. D.C.
Scott just sitting there silently looking so fed up with all this!!!
I think he is a whole mood representing how gun abolitionists feel
Nah hes fed up with having to protest for anti gun laws like can they just tighten it already?
@@boxeswithfoxes IKR 😂😂
this video goes so indepth, I love it
Laughable if you really think that
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Not a difficult sentence to understand.
assault rifles didn’t exist when that amendment was written
@@fayfalc21 Neither did certain words but that doesn't mean it's illegal to say words like "Trans" now because the date of the First Amendment precedes that word. That's the beauty of the founding father's foresight. It protects our rights as US citizens thru the ages.
@@fayfalc21 So? Speech and Politics have changed Drastically since the Constitution was written, should the government start Arresting people for thinking the wrong way?
Come on.. The politicians DON'T CARE... why can't people just understand that? Not rocket science.
So other than saying that, what is your suggestion or insight? How do you make them care?
I feel like people resort to such statements too frequently, often when they have nothing more thoughtful to say...
True, It has been proven many times in history that they don’t server the people needs most of the time
@@adaptablerubenvideos3097 Exactly, and the democracy don't seem to work at all, so many are crying for stricter gun laws and then there's the republicans doing the complete opposite. Also seeing a big number of Americans leaving the US for Europe right now.
Well if one party is massively sponsored by the NRA, they aren’t allowed to care. Whatever the other party may try to oppose, it won’t work. The US is stuck!
thank you, vox, for covering tough subjects with great motion graphics without fail
Lies again? Law Order start with one bullet
What’s more effective at preventing a mass shooting?
1: a sign that says “No guns allowed” (and by extension, that everyone there is unarmed)
Or 2: a sign that says that the staff may be armed?
The objective answer, statistically, is the latter. Mass shooters have a proven statistical track record of targeting “gun free zones.”
Hey Esdeath, first I would like to clarify that I'm not an expert of the gun issue in America as this is coming from a Canadian perspective so this is based on my research on gun control in America. However I can say this argument is guilty of the false analogy fallacy, the false analogy fallacy is when an individual compares two different things together even though in reality they aren't similar. You compared gun control to a sign that says no guns are allowed but those two aren't similar, a sign is based on the hope that others will listen and can easily be bypassed while gun control is an umbrella term for limitation of gun ownership and are enforced so it is mandatory and not easily bypassed. You also said the sign in your analogy requires everyone to be unarmed which isn't true as contrary to popular belief, Gun control doesn't outright ban gun just limits how easily it can be obtained. Finally the statistic you provided is flawed as it only accounts for active shooter incidents rather than mass shooting and include locations like military bases. There also isn't any definite data on this subject as there isn't a definite terminology for gun free zones. I understand that I sound anti-gun but I'm actually neutral on the subject and just want to point out the flaws in this statement.
@@CassandraSanderson478 okay, you spoke to me very fairly and logically, so please let me try to simplify what I said and bring it down to a very simplistic level that could be understood on even an international level.
There will be stipulations in this argument that are irrefutable because they are facts about the reality of the United States.
Stipulation 1: There are more guns in the modern United States than there are human beings.
Stipulation 2: according to the FBI and other agencies, these guns are spread across at least 40% of US households.
Stipulation 3: It is believed there are at least 70 million KNOWN law-abiding gun owners in the USA.
Stipulation 4: there are even more guns in the USA, a very large number of them that are not in any way recorded or registered. Many of these are traded between criminals.
All of these stipulations are backed up by extensive ATF, FBI, and CDC studies, among other data, much of it coming from international studies.
That being said, do you think that the idea of firearm confiscation in the USA is even remotely practical in a real world setting?
Secondly: given this reality: that firearms are basically ubiquitous;
Do you think that “gun-free-zone” signs have any meaning in the USA? Would such a sign deter any criminal intent on nefarious action?
Let me make this even simpler so I am not misunderstood; only two basic questions.
Given the information I have shared:
1. Do you think gun confiscation is even possible in a country where there are more civilian owned guns than people?
2. In such a country, do you think that a “NO GUNS ALLOWED” sign is logically MORE or LESS likely to encourage a mass casualty event in that location?
@@CassandraSanderson478huh.. I keep hearing politicians say "ban this or ban that"
@@generalesdeath5836 You're assuming gun restrictions means taking all the guns. It doesn't. Requiring background checks for all gun sales and transfers is a no-brainer in almost every 1st world nation, except the US. Requiring secure storage of firearms also. Neither of those involve collecting everyone's guns.
Schools are gun free in almost every nation, but only a frequent target in the US. It isn't the 'gun free zone' sign that's the problem.
@@ratofvengence All schools are “gun free zones” ever since Obama. The spaces around the schools are also considered “gun free zones” out to a certain distance. This has done nothing to reduce school shootings.
Try going into any store in the USA and buying a gun without an FBI background check. It is illegal, and carries huge penalties.
Both of these statements are easily proven facts.
As a European, I cannot understand your country
@Exculpatory Shōgun Im sure you dont, theres quite a few countries here.
As an American, I can’t understand my country either
If this is how governments handle these things then we have no hope for stopping and reversing climate change. The problem is the U.S. is way too big. If each state were a country like before, it would probably lead to actions that follow what works. Costa Rica has pretty strict gun laws and there are no mass shootings here to my knowledge and the gun violence is 40% less here. 8 out of 100,000 vs 12 out of 100,000 in the U.S.
Wonder how many Costa Ricans have no sense of meaning or purpose with bad families and SSRIs
You can't control climate change. The weather isn't going to always be a 76 degrees. So relax.
I have an idea to fix climate change we go to nuclear power, but everyone hates me for that.
@@barrybenson5671 That would solve the "problem". How are politicians going to get elected if the "problem" is solved ? How are the rich going to make a profit without ruining our civilization?
@@barrybenson5671 it’s because oil and natural gas companies have spent a lot of money to make people think nuclear power means literal apocalypse
This country is on an ever downward trajectory
downward and leftward.
People always say that! Not really tho. Go outside speak with your neighbors. It's a few sick individuals that make it look bad for the rest of us. Then News outlets like these highlighting only the bad. Never the good!
@@DarrinSK Going Bad and Evolving Backwards
@@DarrinSK
"Progress is only good when in benefits me"
"Okay, what about universal healthcare?"
"REEEEEEEEE"
@@sovietunion5700 Democratic Socialism would benefit everyone eventually, if only there never was a red scare...
Tightening gun laws will only make violence worse. That is at least how it's going in Sweden...
The US needs to follow Switzerland's example. They have about as much guns as the average red state yet absolutely no gun violence.
Switzerland is 99% white dude.
@@ulthanesmorkums As are American spree shooters.
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs So you admit to only caring about an issue when it's sensationalized. Because gang shootings FAR outnumber the few isolated spree shooting instances shown in mass media.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs the American spree shooters the news channels tell you about ;)
America hurts itself in its confusion!
🤭 Ffffff
The alphabet ruined it all.
@@JM-qr8qz what’s the alphabet got to do with anything lol
Yep; this lady is demonstrating that confusion. Guns have NEVER been the problem.
@@josmos1182 Reference to the federal agents who were friends with almost every mass shooter before they attacked.
Criminals don't care about laws or your feelings.
And facts don't care about yours.
It's not the gun's fault it's the guy holding it
Then we need to stop giving guys guns
@@juckya9660 the government is also "guys" so maybe they can give up their guns too?
Oh wait, it only goes one way...I guess a uniform and a badge automatically qualifies someone as a marksman capable of protecting everyone else and being everywhere all the time.
@@KBoon Its almost like they're qualified to own a gun.
Also you don't need an assault rifle to defend yourself.
@@juckya9660 what makes them "qualified" exactly? What's their minimum training quota? No one asks these questions. Just assume that:
Uniform/badge + gun = good
Civilian + gun = bad
And, if you're just against "assault rifles" which isn't even a real term, but I'll assume you meant semi automatic rifles, are you angry at most other countries who don't let their citizen easily obtain single shot rifles/shotguns to even have at home for self defence? Most of these countries requiring a "valid reason" to own a gun, while their governments have them at all times.
@@KBoon the training protocols are well done for the most part.
I suggested those people against guns come to Brasil, we'd have a very strict gun laws and probably the highest rate of homicide by firearms, here you only have the option to be a victim! in 2017 over 67 thousand homicides, more than Mexico or Syria! There are no simple solutions for this issue!
I don't think you can compare the US to Brazil, the US has much more options to control these things.
Yes because of losser gun laws americans could import these guns to other criminals that what happens
@@notracefromraytraceinhisface limiting guns rights is not a option
@@garrettguerra7616 it's works in nearly every other highly industrialised country
@@notracefromraytraceinhisface yet Owning a Firearm is a Right here in America & not in another industrialized Nation, Clearly your not a American
Guns should be as easy as it is to get a car and a driving license. Both cars and guns are needed for survival and both are equally deadly so it shouldn't get in wrong hands.
They should be easier. Being able to own weapons is a right driving a car is not a right
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv true but I think cars are more common here. Hence why I want both very easy to own.
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv I feel like driving a car should be considered a right. People have the right to freedom of movement and in a car dependent country that means driving. If you tell someone they can't drive you are limiting their freedom of movement. It's like people who, through no fault of their own, wind up on a 'no fly' list. They want a mechanism by which to challenge that because it's not just an inconvenience, it's an infringement on their right to freedom of movement.
@@studentofsmith Freedom of movement means the state can't prevent you from leaving your home without a trial. Cars are not a right
I live in a country where no one is allowed to have guns. We had zero shootings in the past whatever years. And no one need guns to defend themselves because people have common sense.
I often joke that Conservatives can't read past the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but it turns out they can't even read halfway through the 2nd Amendment conveniently ignoring the "well-regulated militia" part.
@@jessetorres8738 militias were a thing of the 18th century, before the country had an army which means the 2nd amendment is an aberration today
CZ as in Czech Republic? Cause the Czechs own plenty of guns
@@DireAvenger001 like in Asia
@@DireAvenger001 I'm from Czechia and I don't know anyone who would own a gun
Obviously in a county that has a surplus of guns needs more guns to protect. The genie is out of the bottle long ago.
You can measure someone's true stance on firearm ownership by how much energy they devote to wanting to restrict guns in the US, while simultaneously not devoting any energy whatsoever in calling for the relaxing of gun laws in other countries where they are far too restricted.
It only goes one way, doesn't it?
Staggering isn’t it, makes you wonder what needs to happen.
GUN LAWS DON'T "PREVENT " ANYTHING, IT JUST MAKES WHATEVER IS AGAINST THE LAW. MURDER HAS BEEN AGAINST THE LAW FOR A "LONG TIME" AND HOW MANY MURDERS HAVE THAT PREVENTED?!!!!! SPEEDING IS AGAINST THE LAW DOES THAT PREVENT PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING?!!!!! 😨😲😤😢😧
So are you saying we should just make murder legal?
As someone from Central Texas, I'd like my state to have a Governor who could stand up to the N.R.A. & gun lobbyists, but sadly Governor Greg Abbott can't do that. Furthermore, I'd like to point out that our last 3 Governors were Greg Abbott, Rick Perry, & George W. Bush, whom have been the 3 Stooges of Republican state "leadership." Here's hoping that Beto O'Rourke wins the Governor's race against Abbott in November. And this is very likely given how close the margin between the 2 of them is with Abbott's approval rating continuing to fall after Uvalde.
You're delusional if you think Robert O'Rourke is going to win in the state of Texas. he will win in three or four counties and that's about it
I doubt that abbott is going to end up receiving substantial blame for uvalde up until the election. I actually thought he reacted ok to it for a republican. at first he did of course peddle the uvalde police's lies, but he was actually pretty quick to call them out as lies (a huge political taboo), faster than most news networks.
Thank you for saying that! Something HAS to change.
Hate on me all you want, but Robert Francis O’Rourke (a rich, privileged white guy pandering for Latino votes) will lose. It’s ironic how a guy who was arrested for burglary is threatening to take people’s property lol
You are so lucky to live in a state that helps to defend and restore your 2nd Amendment rights… overturning decades of racist and tyrannical gun control!
Why is it cheaper and easier to get an AR-15 rifle than it is to spend 2 days in the hospital for a broken leg? Why is it cheaper and easier to get an AR-15 than an education? Why is it cheaper and easier to get an AR-15 than access to hospitals which will take care of the bullet wounds caused by those AR-15s?
Because the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
@@UHOH3300 The right to Life and the Pursuit of Happiness is also not to be infringed but I guess that gets overshadowed by someone needing a lethal weapon capable of killing a person with a single shot
@@UHOH3300 The 2nd amendment is not more powerful than rights to health and safety.
Canada and Australia exists, move there
@@napoleonbonaparte9222 ah yes. "It's bad here, so let's run away" is always a good idea. It definitely solves the problems.
I always feel somewhat that i have to be aware in school. Im in the 6th grade
I still cannot understand how people think the solution to shootings is giving more access to guns,,,MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
Because, they think the Concept of the Nuclear Mutually Assured Destruction also works perfectly for normal Guns...
(Fun fact: it only works for nukes)
'cause Murica !!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Cause the people will have more access to Guns that they can use when someone tries to hurt them and their family.
You have to change the people. Laws won't change anything.
People are getting more depressed and anxious thats a statistic fact.
I dont think loosening gun control is a good idea with that in mind..
@@DekuSt0ner see. You gotta fix the depressed people. People in places like Switzerland are not depressed so they don't go around shooting
Stricter gun laws & giving people the help they need are both important.
Laws worked in Australia. They have seen a stark decline in gun deaths since 1996. Same thing in Japan. What makes the Shinzo Abe shooting so noteworthy is that not only was it an incredibly rare event for the country but the gunman had to make his own zip gun. Laws work. Though making the lives of our citizens is important too. That's why I refuse to vote Republican. They refuse to make our lives better and make it easier to get a hold of guns.
@@SkeinChug "gun deaths"...how about OVERALL deaths? Oh wait, those didn't change. Criminals just use guns a bit less than they used to. So, problem solved? No, because there's still the same rate of dead homicide victims at the end of the day.
However, Australia did make it easier for criminals/burglars to carry out their violent acts especially against elderly people and women, who are disproportionately weaker physically and cannot defend themselves because the government took their guns.
But it's okay for said government to have all the guns they want, surely their lives are worth protecting with guns, just not the common people of course.
Its ironic how worlds most powerful country is unable to protect its citizens especially innocent children ..
"protect" is a tough word here. you cannot have a police officer by your side at all times. But you can have a gun with you almost at all times. So the country allows you to protect yourself. No provocation just hoping for an interesting conversation
@@DerultimateKeks But wouldnt you agree that protection doesnt need to, and imo shouldnt be lethal, I mean you can always use selfdefence or pebberspray. Plus isnt it also really counterintuitive to arm teachers, teachers having a handgun doesnt really guarentee the shootings from stopping or protection anyone, because lets be honest, if the shooter really wants too, they can easily get a semi or fullautomatic weapon, which we only endanger the teacher more? Just my thoughts, feel free too share yours
@@DerultimateKeks If they make it easier for teachers, parents and school faculty to obtain guns, that would also mean that more potential school shooters would have the same access.
Other countries like Japan that have super strict gun laws prove that they work in preventing mass shootings and gun deaths. But with the current state of the US and their views on gun rights, I doubt any significant restrictions on guns will happen any time soon.
Because they value money above anything else
@@silversunset They don't make it easier for teachers to get guns.
All it does is remove the "gun-free zone" rule from schools. You know... because criminals don't follow "gun-free zone" rules.
We shouldn't have strong opinions without examining data. Data could show:
- Do red states have more or less mass shooting deaths per capita and why?
- Are some weapons excessive for self defense and if so, does this statistically lead to negative outcomes?
- What is statistically safer: open carry, concealed carry with/without permit, no carry? This would answer questions like: How many heroes have there been vs normally rational gun owners losing their temper? How effective is open carry at acting as a deterrent to would be criminals? Does permitting/registration make us more accountable as gun owners?
I'm pro-2A, and while I do support open carry, I do not recommend it. You don't want to let bad people know that you are armed, because you will almost always be at what's called an "initiative deficit."
New laws don’t equal less crime.
Why do we as americans treat guns like toys instead of weapons
I treat them like tools, personally. That’s what they are.
@@CoryHatfield only if you have an actual use for them
@@flyinggoose1456 have you never seen a gun commercial? or a gun-themed social media channel? or ted cruz frying bacon on a rifle barrel?
@@CoryHatfield killing tool…. Literally the sole reason they exist
Well there's more guns that people here and like 99.99% of people are never shot at so most of us are treating them pretty responsibly
That Princeton study said public opinion has a non significant, statistically near zero impact on whether or not a policy becomes law.
30% chance of becoming law either way. Only the top 10% of income earners effect that chance
Gun grabbers need all the help they can get. Stop putting down their efforts and bow your head and lick the boot.
thank you for spreading awareness
A troubled country. Not going to change soon since they literally laugh at the solution.
That’s because it’s not a solution
@@Tylerd838 you dont even know what solution i’m talking about…🥸
@@SneakySteevy then what is it
@@Tylerd838 American citizens are traumatized. Thinking process is not good, ego to the roof, many many biaises.
Citizens have to solve THEIR OWN problems before to try solving others problems.
@@SneakySteevy yeah, that is exactly why we laugh at it because you didn’t list a solution
I just can't believe that this is reality. It doesn't feel like this nightmare will ever be over.
If you get rid of guns that nightmare could lead to something much much worse as history has taught us.
@@TFin762.39 because all of europe is a dystopian hellscape, eh? Oh wait...
@@Arcanefungus London has a higher murder rate than New York but London has no guns. and what do you mean "Oh Wait" there are wars going on and thousands of people are expected to freeze to death in Europe this winter due to poor political decisions.
@@TFin762.39 I dont know where you get your news from, but at least where I live no one freezes to death. On the contrary, publicly funded warm rooms are put into place to help especially vulnerable people. And even If it were true, how exactly would guns help that situation? More people Shot means less people to keep warm? Besides, mothers over here arent facing the very real and rational fear of their kids being shot while in school
It’s because the efforts are foolishly focused on inanimate objects rather than on the criminal.
Rifles: 450 homicides a year
Knives: 1,700 homicides a year
Unarmed beatings: 650 homicides a year
Banning “assault weapons” is about political power, not safety.
Vast majority of the MILLIONS of semiauto rifles in circulation are used peacefully to protect family and freedom. Police are minutes away or don’t show up at all when seconds count.
Is the number 450number of homicides with all rifles(shotgun, grandpas hunting rifle and semi automatics) or just semi auto rifles?
yeah the pigs sure are useful, what with the 400 pigs hiding from one shooter in the more recent shooting.
@@alperakyuz9702 all rifles
This is plain weird, every American (from NY, MI, CA, PA, IL etc) I meet or know says they are in favour of stricter laws including banning all “assault rifles”, high capacity magazines, etc. Yet, year after year, all I see are more and more “mass killings” in schools, malls, churches, concerts etc. How come the people who all seem to want much stricter control can’t elect representatives that will implement their wish?
being from mi , i don't support baning assault rifle or high capacity. what your definition of "assault rifle".
Wrong. I know tons of people opposed to it
@@ej_22 to be honest I don’t know. I don’t know much about firearms or legislation. My conversations have been casual, mostly with my college classmates. I live in a country where the general populace feels quite safe even if no one owns a firearm. In fact where I live many in the law enforcement also do not carry firearms unless you include the wooden stick they carry as one.
I don’t have data, but if media is to be believed “mass killings” in schools, churches, malls, etc have steadily increased in the US and I would hope the American people do something about it much like they (MADD) did with Drinking and Driving.
So you met blue Americans from blue states and think they represent everyone? Well donen
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv I didn’t specifically look for blue or red Americans. It’s just one person’s experience. I was after all only visiting the United States. What I can say with some certainty is that many of us living outside the United States, haven’t yet understood the fascination some Americans have with guns and why it’s just a divisive topic in America. The little that I have read about these random shootings is that every year the numbers are increasing. One would think, the people would want to see these numbers reduce and expect / demand their representatives to come up with a solution.
Problem isn't the guns it's the people.
yeah, it is. i feel bad because the majority of gun owners don’t plan on hurting anyone besides self defense.
@@internet-gf see?? This kind of people is the problem. You really need gun for self defense?? The fact that your law allow killing others for self defense is considered as an act of justice is the problem.
It’s that or wait for the cops to come. You need to protect you love ones if need be from harm dude.
“If everyone had a gun no one would need a gun” -Bojack Horseman
Not true. As an American, I NEED all the guns.
@@newgoliard6059 HEY!
leave some for me man
I cant tell if this comment is pro gun or anti gun
I hate how people are able to own guns for security when it’s not needed but I can see why they want to keep it as a form of entertainment
@@IceKnight678 Because that's how america works
Reminds me of the south park episode where everyone gets a gun to feel "safe".
...and no one is shot.
“… shall not be infringed”
"well regulated militia..."
@@theeviloverlord7320 what are you inferring here?
The vast majority of firearms are never used in the commission of a killing.
But the ones that are, are doing lots of damage
@@razerpenguin1887 True about a lot of things I'm afraid
What most people don’t take in consideration is that for people who live in remote areas like me , it would take the police 25 - 30 minutes to get to my house so having guns is the only self defense
They aren’t talking about the country folk they are talking about the people who live in the middle of like phoenix or something and have 40 different guns and open carry a rifle like in a normal world like i live in I don’t have to be equipped like a MP everytime o go to the store yeah have a rifle at home locked up incase i need it but i would never need it outside my property
@@user-zj5rb3xo7das they should since Americans decided to go easy on thugs because most criminals have certain skin tone and democrats don’t want prisons to look to homogeneous cause that make them look bad…. The state decided not to handle criminals properly the people will.
Your right i should get my conceal carry and more firearms bc theyre really awesome
Is the area that unsafe? That’s a social problem then; people are less likely to commit crimes if they aren’t poor
Even with police right on the campus with innocent students the students aren't safe...
actually this video is entirely wrong, it's never been stricter. we nees to deregulate everything about firearms and weapons in general.
So, firearms in school?
I mean, rights are rights, but one should also consider rhe safety of the people.
@@ossigaming8413 what do you think keeping away from understanding safe firearm handling does to people when they grow up and are around guns?
whether or not theyll flip out and attack eachother is a whole different discussions seperate from guns.
@@ossigaming8413 Yes teachers should be trained and there should be more cops for sure.
Taking citizens guns away isnt helping anyone.
The guns being used are illegal and cannot be traced.
0:08 it's interesting to see Santa Fe. Everytime I went to softball in Santa Fe, there was a bench that honored a softball player that was killed at Santa Fe.
Chicago is a great example of how effective gun laws are! Im very certain they have no gun crimes at all!
LETS BAN GUNS! I mean, that's how we got people to stop doing drugs!
I know!!! Thank god they don’t have constitutional carry… I’m sure everyone carry guns in Chicago have the proper permits!!!
@@whatsamazing1531I’m almost certain it’s one of the safest, most god-fearing cities in the US!!!
Yeah, it's not like interstate gun traffickers take advantage of red states with constitutional carry laws to easily buy guns there in bulk and sell them to criminals in Chicago, right? And republicans and the NRA want to keep their mouths shut about that because they profit off of that?
@@Thatdude_Nik By the same logic, people could take advantage of Mexico's illegal gun ring and bring them here. We didn''t have all these problems with guns back when the government stayed away of our guns.
A lot of people here who are confused about how certain aspects came to be in American society, especially those who do not live in the US, should take some time to look at the events that led to the founding of the United States. For example, firearms are seen as a right to Americans because it IS a right in the Constitution of the United States. Largely, the purpose of the right to a firearm serves similar roles to the other amendments, in particular the original 10. That is to make sure that the federal government does not become tyrannical and to remind those in the federal government, and this holds for state and local government, that the government is by the people, for the people. And not any other way. Sadly, those in the federal government (in particular career politicians who do not know how the real world works) have forgotten this.
And yet, it seems to have had the opposite effect.
@@chiaraimpeduglia1308in 1774, 250 years ago, England banned guns/gunpowder in colonial America!! Attempted gun confiscation by the English army in April 1775 started that 8-year war for American independence & England almost won that war!! Then England came back for the War of 1812-1815 & burned down Washington D.C.!! FYI!!
I emigrated here from a developing nation and I went to college. I remember being weirded out having to run active shooter drills. I had never seen a gun before in my life!
How brave! Congratulations! You want a participation award?
That’s also a big problem for accidents people don’t know anything about we need to people to learn how to treat them
ppl really took engineer tf2's "use more gun" catchphrase seriously
You know gun free zone signs sure do seem to help a lot.
Just the other day, a would be mass shooter stopped at that 1,000 foot line since it is illegal to have a loaded gun within 1,000 feet of a school. Whew! So close. :)
Criminals just walk up to signs, see “no guns allowed”, and walk away. Smh
Just forbid civilians to own guns.
Just be smarter...
Owning a firearm is a Literal Right here in America
Read the 2nd Amendment foreigner
Thats a horrible idea
All this inaction abetting such wanton violence is symptomatic of a government and society in utter dysfunction. Greed and pride is poisoning minds for its own sake.
We just need police to be better. Uvalde was a complete fail. The fact that it is in a school makes it worse especially considering that children can’t conceal carry.
Unless you want like half of the population to be trained law enforcement personnel than that won’t work at all.
@@simondahl5437 I mean the response time isn’t fast enough and police officers are hesitant to stop a shooter. They can be trained, even a small improvement would save lives.
@@kojonesy6430. Yes but wouldn’t solve the problem.
@@simondahl5437 what are you suggesting?
@@kojonesy6430. I haven’t suggested anything, I’m just pointing out that that wouldn’t work. But if I were I’d suggest a total ban on firearms.
Historians will give the period of surging mass shootings in the US a name.
"the failure of gun legislation."