Why the Swiss Love Their Guns (more than Americans)
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- How Switzerland’s Obsession with Guns is Different
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Americans and Swiss citizens have some of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, but their gun cultures differ wildly. One country has seen over 500 mass shootings in 2023 alone, while the other has had less than a handful over the past twenty years. To understand why there’s such a stark difference between these two countries’ gun cultures, we traveled to Switzerland to see how each of these cultures started, and where they began to part ways.
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5:28 The Village Shooting Range
9:57 The Tale of William Tell
11:19 Target Practice
12:57 A Well Regulated Militia
18:47 Competition, Camaraderie, and Tradition
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Just found your channel today, watched your swiss bunkers & UFO/UAP video. Subscribed the moment the video ended haha love your work man
Basically guns went from a collective idea to fueling individual exceptionalism
@johnnyharris looking for any excuse to go to Switzerland these days XD
love your vids! keep it up
I would have come to meet you if i had known your here
One small aspect of the divergence is as follows: 1) We used to have shooting clubs and gun safety classes in schools. They got removed. I do remember teens having guns in a rifle rack in the back of the truck at school. 2) We used to promote Respect and Responsibility, now it is everyone for themselves. 3) We have politicians pushing agendas and causing divisions. Making it "Us vs Them" instead of genuinely trying to find common ground.
You are 100% correct....but don't let Johnny sugar coat Switzerland and their lack of mental illness issues, lack of knowledging their increasing drug issues, lack of knowledging treatment needed to counter this increasing problems...also Switzerland has an increasing problem with home, car and personal property crimes associated with all the above.... so Switzerland isn't and different than the United States! Johnny is just infatuated with Switzerland and ashamed of his freedoms protected by us legal abiding A2 citizens..... he is in denial
Totally agree
@@dannyeugenewaits9486 +1 👍
Truth
@@dannyeugenewaits9486 This video was based around guns in Switzerland. He isn't in denial, he is showing this narrative. Now he could go into mental health and all the others, but what does that show? The country has problems like any other?
It's a shame you didn't tell the audience the full story as to why the constitution says we have a right to bear arms. There is so much more to this story than you are telling.
Liberal propaganda.
100% gun control video!
@@crewdog2898speaking of Colion, he just did a video addressing this
@@Kennerd007 Yes he did, and it's fantastic, because Colion understands the 2nd Amendment, whereas Johnny here pretends.
@@Pavewy exactly
After my mother passed away I inherited her firearms, but I’d never been shooting before. I was afraid to go to gun ranges as a complete novice, but I found them to be very welcoming places. I’ve since bought firearms of my own and I love to shoot. The sense of zen, focus. It’s very relaxing. Much love from Texas
Great stay safe stay focused, remind yourself why the constitution protects you from government overreach.
It is a ton of fun to be a responsible gun owner.
Why don't you use a Bow than instead of a gun
@@KaraDasSyndikatGuns are more fun. Plus he didn't inherit a collection of bows and arrows.
@@davidparker9676 true but if u want tranquility and Zen feeling a bow would be better, a gun is a bad choice, loud AF where is the Zen feeling and tranquility when you must have earplugs to not get deaf 😂
As a Swiss person: I'm not sure you can call Switzerland of the past peaceful, when we were the guys who hired out to other countries to fight their wars and made a whole lot of money from it and (kinda) got us involved in the slave trade. Also, there were wars on Swiss territory between the different regions and cities (look up the Kappelerkrieg, Villmergerkrieg, etc.) as there was no country "Switzerland" rather independent regions and cities bound by loose treaties who sometimes didn't like each other.
Regarding the republic thing, I think that is just Berne (the city state), but it wasn't the only one in Europe. There are others like Venice.
Another small detail is that not man serves in our militia army, there's something called civil service (Zivildienst, Zivilschutz).
I also think if you're interested in the modern roots of Swiss gun culture the time around the Second World War is more enlightning.
But I get that this video was amed at an US-audience, that these details are not the point and it would spoil the story. Thanks for your work😊
Sounds like he overlooked a lot of facts from both sides. That's what happens when you're creating a piece of propaganda.
@@kirby.hofman That, and well formulated story to lead us there.
Never ask a communist to articulate hisotrical facts with honest intention.
They simply can not.
The asinine author of this article has no clue about the US Constitution.
He was being very deceptive. I hate this first and last time I'll view this channel.
I’ve been to Switzerland and I have participated in some of Americas Gun culture in my life. I was excited to see another perspective on Switzerland’s gun culture. I was disappointed to discover that this video overlooked all of the best parts of American gun culture and instead focused on negative stereotypes and trumped up statistics which were manipulated to appear worse and than reality. Further, Swiss traditions were held up as nearly perfect with little to no real investigation into possible down sides. The narrator appears to have gone to experience Swiss gun culture in a much deeper and more mature way than he has ever experienced his own. He could have done EVERYTHING in this video in America and spread positive ideas promoting training and safety. Instead he did what Anthropology calls “going native”. Upsettingly shallow and negative anti gun propaganda really disappointed this viewer. Travel your own country experiencing our actual gun culture and make another video please.
Maybe visit a rod and gun club that is a real cultural hub in the region. Take a hunter safety course or a concealed pistol course. Meet and interview the instructors who love their community members and their county. Something!
Right on the point!
I think you’re right about the biases but i’m gonna give him a bit of a pass because he stated it’s an individual focus culture when it comes to guns , not an obligatory or duty bound one. Makes sense that someone who’s been spoon fed news reports on gun deaths (1 is too many) and exposed to the worst owners of guns and criminals wouldn’t go anywhere near a gun in the US lol
@@Humble2AYou shouldn’t give him a pass. This video is pure propaganda. 0 journalism integrity.
To be fair, I'm not aware of any shooting ranges in the USA that allow shooters to fire at targets on the far side of a civilian roadway that sees regular use... And I'm ok with that. Doesn't feel like a necessary risk to enable, no matter the safeguards. But then, we have more than enough wide open spaces that it would provide no particular benefit either.
Read my response to this video and see if you agree and would like to have a debate occur between those two individuals.
A well regulated militia doesn't mean people required to join a militia or it being under government control.
It mean well organized so that a militia would actually be effective.
"Against a tyrannical government"... which we now have.
@@toddrodeo1349 Agreed. He never mentions that part, that's in the preamble, does he...
The 2nd Ammendment's main purpose is so we the people can form an effective militia against our OWN government, should it become tyrannical. Read the preamble. And he's pretending the Millitia Act was part of the constitution, it simply stated that the government could ask for help from the people's militia if needed - not that our right is dependent on that. Thus the founders enshrined this natural right so the government could never prevent the people from disposing of a tyrannical government.
Also, Japan leads the world in per capita suicides, and they have virtually no guns.
That’s what he said
@@waexplorer he did, then ignored that when making his point. he mentions it at 14:25 going over what well regulated meant and that it could be used to overthrow the government, and then that it was about arming the populace rather than a specific group (kinda glazes over this though).
Johnny, fellow exmormon here(cheers 🍻). I don't see a lot of difference between this Swiss gun range and the ranges here(Utah). Chill, organized, safe, fun. The shooting competitions here are great too. You should come out and shoot! Saying it sounds like a war zone is what newbies say, which is fine. Just glad to have newbies show up and learn. I still shoot trash in the woods at 42(I clean up after). Not sure why that is weird. Trash is a free target, and I like to shoot in the woods. So not a single Swiss person anywhere shoots trash in the woods? A great idea would be to go to a shooting competition here and do a video part II since you said you're not a gun person. Then you can experience both gun cultures, instead of just the Swiss one.
The difference isn't that much of a gun culture as culture in general.
USA is obsessed with it's freedom. It's freedom to do what ever, like shooting trash in forest because you can. Same with carrying in public etc etc. it's as if states need to prove to themselves and the world, that their freedom works.
In Switzerland they're much more comfortable with their freedom. Lots of people have guns at home, but they don't parade them around just to prove they can. If law is made, they stick to it as if their life depends on it, where in states it's met with - they're taking away my freedom.
It's just different mindset completely. Hence far less issues with gun control, far less issues with gun crime and deaths involving firearms.
@@karliszelinskis5908 Didn't the one guy explain that it's normal for him to leave the range with the rifle strapped on his back and get on the metro and it's not a big deal? I mean, I wouldn't call that parading it around, but I also don't see folks caring a rifle in the States without having cops called on them. So I assume you're talking about folks parading around a hand gun on their hips, maybe? And even then, most gun enthusiasts and legal gun owners state that you should keep it concealed so you're not a target and so, again, I wouldn't call that parading it around.
So maybe I am misunderstanding your other point about how guns are paraded around in the US?
@@jonathananderson2406He's carrying it with him for the specific purpose of going to a shooting range, not for the purpose of protecting himself, that's the biggest difference. Also almost certain he is not allowed to have any ammunition with him when doing that. This video is quite shallow and makes it seem like the only difference between the US and Switzerland is a difference in mentality, when in reality the difference in legislation and rules is a much bigger factor (imo)
Ex-Mormon. I knew there was a reason I liked him so much!
As a Swiss citizen, I completed my basic military training with an infantry elite unit, the Grenadiers. Subsequently, I was allowed to take my semi-automatic rifle home. Afterwards, I fulfilled my duty by participating in annual mandatory shooting exercises at the shooting range in my village. In my experience, firearm handling in Switzerland is very responsibly managed. The ammunition we receive with our firearm is sealed and must not be opened; violations are penalized. Compared internationally, incidents of accidents or criminal actions involving firearms are very rare in Switzerland. Today, I am retired and have voluntarily returned my firearm to the military. My duty and contribution to my homeland are fulfilled.
Switzerland and the United States have very different societies. The problem in the US isn’t a gun issue it’s a very complex societal issue.
Too many mixed races and cultures is Americas problem.
@@blue03r6 I do not think that is the problem. However I understand why you came up with that. Order out of chaos. There is a framework they use to guide thoughts and actions that lead to the synthetic solution. They divide us creating chaos that leads to their predetermined outcome where they come in with a solution that results in them with more power and us with less liberty.
Every time we fight for or defend against an ideology we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels’ grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the working class. The Hegelian solution to all these conflicts can’t be introduced unless we all take a side that will advance the agenda. The Marxist’s global agenda is moving forward and the only way to completely stop the privacy invasions, expanding domestic police powers, land grabs, insane wars against inanimate objects, covert actions, and outright assaults on individual liberty, is to step outside the dialectic. This releases us from the limitations of controlled and guided thought.
The issue in America is one of social values, destruction of the family, and lack of good role models.
The true real problem in the us is one and one only, but we are too afraid to say it. Starts with b.
Yup. Switzerland is a homogenous society that has had the same culture and customs for centuries. Corruption is minimal and they don't have off the wall social issues.
The United States is a melting pot, an empire, deals with corruption, has incomparable racial divides, ethnic, and economic divides all within the same borders.
Our country was not simply founded with a goal to protect us from external enemies, but to preserve the liberties of the people from those internally who would threaten them as well.
Nice myth you have there. The 2nd amendment is about Southern states having militias to recapture escaped slaves.
Yes; and why we aren't taking up arms against the present government is testament to how apathetic we've become; and how we've allowed the spirit of 2a to become diluted into nothingness.
exactly
that's exactly what a well regulated militia does, genius.
Correct we have the right to fight back against if the tyrannical government aspect part of the clause takes affect. Making it plausible for the American citizens to be able to fight back if the government turns bad, just like the colonies did against the British.
1965 age 14 with an SMLE.303. on loan from the Army, 10 shot magazine and bolt locked, slung, wearing full Army uniform walking to school. Obviously we were instructed to keep the bolt in your pocket but not a "legal" requirement. 60 years later if you did this you'd be jailed here in Australia. Good luck even owning a rifle at all these days.
May the Aussies come to their senses soon. Amen
Wow, I truly had high hopes for this video. It seems that he went so far out of his way to explore an issue and then in the last second completely failed to see the big picture. As someone who considers himself part of the American "gun culture," I found the Swiss view on firearms to be virtually identical to what I have experienced here in the states. The problem that I see here in the US is that we have a incredibly large anti-gun culture that ultimately sabotages any efforts to be more like the Swiss. We have politicians, criminals, media personalities, and Hollywood types that love to hype gun misuse, yet aren't interested in learning anything about firearms. It is that profound ignorance that drives the laws and government initiatives in the US that make the problems worse.
Exactly! Well said.
Yeah when the libs are like "wEll wE dOnT hAvE a miItiA" it's like... okay. Make one then. Seriously, twist my arm into government subsidized and regular firearm training. You want more firearm and safety education and experience for the population, broadly? Okay- count me in
Swiss gun culture includes not owning ammo.
@@dingdangshine861like owning a screwdriver and hammer, but not allowed to own the screws and nails. Sound stupid? Because it is.
@dingdangshine861 no, Army ammunition is simply kept at centralized supply sites. Ammo is expensive.
You forgot the part where the founding fathers also wanted to protect us from our own government.
And they were oh so right.
He didn’t forget. He did it on purpose because he’s a clown and pushing a narrative.
@@interiorattack8331 This is nothing more than a thinly veiled pro-gun control documentary.
He's a journalist that doesn't really like guns, what else do u expect? It is only obvious to leave out this most important part of what made America,....america. I'm not an American an even I'm aware of that part of its history. It's shameful honestly. To think that there are so many persons living free not realizing, that this one right keep the government from overreach, knowing if the people are pissed off at the amount of strong arming anything could happen if the people themselves decide they want them out. This was spitefully left out and delivered to tell persons that that constitutional right was to protect the government lol
were they? I mean they were land and slave owners which wanted to protect their own interests with those laws. Not very different from European nobility.
Never forget that the Bill of Rights doesn’t spell out what rights the government is granting the people. It spells out the rights that are recognized as inalienable human rights that the government is prohibited from infringing upon. We don’t have a right to bear arms because the Constitution says so. The government isn’t allowed to infringe upon that right, because the Constitution says so.
Thank you
Exactly. How come every dictator in history banned guns for the people but not their soldiers? Colion Noir debunked this evil govt tyranny fueled propaganda. Govt= worlds biggest murderer. Johnny is in bed with dictatorial viewpoints.
God given right inherent in natural law!
well said
Even if the Constitution didn't say it, you still have that right. Everyone on this planet has the God-given natural right to defend themselves with the most effective tools possible.
My guy, you can find that exact same "wholesomeness" at your local gun club in America any given Saturday morning.
He is just another coastal leftist that hates the USA.
No lol not really. It’s different here
@@ibbyseed Really solid addition to the dialogue there. I imagine you must have a lot of knowledge on the subject... Or at least, that is all I can do since you haven't actually said anything at all.
You mean those gun ranges where they allow fathers to give guns to their children without any training?
that's what I was thinking, I consider myself more anti-gun, I'm not involved in the gun culture here in the US, and I don't know what that environment is like, but even I can tell the framing is silly. "Friendly", "wholesome", "young kids keeping score", you KNOW if this was in the US, the kids keeping score wouldn't be described as wholesome at all. We'd call it concerning and indoctrination into a cult of violence, like, "Oh, how heartbreaking it is to see these kids raised in an environment like that" lol
I love how the Swiss come together as a community as one group of countrymen and women, the fact they shot over the highway is kinda of crazy but cool at the same time. And the shooting ranges are unbelievable amazing They are so well structured for someone to feel at easy while shooting and the camera target system is topnotch. Pretty cool.
My assumption is the politicians are far-less likely to be dickheads over there like American politicians. That may account for the sense of community. In America we blame each other for their voting habits instead of coming together to blame the politicians for the problems they create.
Yeah these exist in America lol
This is a clear example of researching one side, failing to research the other and mixing personal beliefs with media assumptions as a conclusion
This is the most clear and accurate assessment I've seen in the comments. It describes his documentary perfectly.
TRUE DAT!
He was researching Switzerland/Swiss culture/rules. How is that 'one side'? There are 'sides' in the US, but not in Switzerland.
Spot on!
@@xxwookey Because he compared it to the United States... Had he not compared it, it would have been a complete video and not a complete propaganda piece.
As an American who enjoys the same things that the Swiss enjoy about their gun culture, I struggled with your take on the difference between the cultures. First, not all Americans feel the way you depict us when it comes to firearms. Protecting self and family are a big portion of our lives, but family for most of us expands to community as well. If the Swiss had a large segment of their government wanting to villainize guns and gun owners, they too would have the fears that Americans do about protecting themselves and communities. You have statistics about gun violence, which show accurate numbers. However, while I would love to end suicide, it is not violence in the same way as shooting someone. This is a different problem. Suicide is not a gun problem. It is a mental health or social problem. A few years ago, the media and medical professionals started calling some suicides by medical device "Death with Dignity. " So why is it violence when someone injects a piece of lead into them but not violence when they inject a poison? You seemed to have a very romantic view of Swiss gun culture and are willing to see all of their perspectives but only view American gun culture as violence. I would challenge you to join a gun club or shooting range in the states and you may find that there are normal, peace loving people that enjoy the culture in the same way that you describe the Swiss as. I would also suggest you take a look at the number of lives saved by guns in America. Sadly, the government stopped gathering those statistics when they went against the goals of politicians. Millions of lives each year are saved by guns. Not bullets, guns. Shots do not need to be fired to thwart evil or wrongdoing. It is awesome that you decided to explore a gun culture even though you had no interest in guns before. Do the same thing here in the States. You will find some people that match your stereotype that you depict. But you will also find a lot of others who peacefully and respectfully enjoy our rights and are willing to protect our America.
That's because this is an obviously dishonest "documentary", made by a woke serving to political agenda.
Excellent reply Brian! 👍 Totally agree.
I couldn't have said it better myself
He has no interest in that, it would counter his preconceived notions and his obvious agenda to misrepresent American gun ownership.
Beautifully worded. Calling out what's wrong and fishy in this video but with a level of respect and insight that really deserves a response by the documentary's author, Johnny Harris.
You should do a mini-doc on the lack of proper punishment of criminals for violating our existing laws. In the U.S., there are literally thousands of city, county, state, and federal gun laws in place, that cover just about any situation you can think of.
Respectfully, if I may, I don't think it's a question of laws, I think it's rather a cultural question. You have to change your relationship to guns, which at the moment, judging from the horror stories we hear from your side, is not the most healthy.
@@harveyrichard2007 I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean "judging from the horror stories we hear from your side, is not the most healthy." Perhaps you are being judgmental about something you don't fully understand. That said, America does have more criminal activity in general compared to the entire continent of Europe and it's definitely an aspect worth exploring.
@harveyrichard2007: are these the horror stories you hear in the media? Are you talking about the anti-gun propaganda you hear? Our media is sensationalistic and anything but objective, fair or balanced journalism.
I love the fact that they don’t ask you if you would like to shoot instead, they tell you it’s your turn to shoot as it’s not an option. 😂Gotta love the Swiss they take their national protection very seriously as they should.❤
You know, at 26:24 he is describing exactly how it is in a massive number of small towns in America. He spends a lot of time comparing Swiss vs America... without having any real understanding of the American gun culture outside of big cities.
Because he's a typical Lib...
You're 100% right.
That's the way it was when I was a kid - families up shooting together on a Saturday. Shooting competitions between families, etc. There was a lot of trust and camaraderie
Boys with guns in the grocery store at the sporting goods counter getting ammo before they went shooting was not seen as scary. People would look at a boy riding his bike toward the foothills with his gun and his dog as an idyllic scene.
The US got hardened with the violence and the mistrust between different groups. And now with these mass shootings by psychiatric drugged children who are simply raised completely differently than we were.
We could still bring guns to show and tell when I was in elementary in the 80s and we could still bring guns to school in our cars to go shooting after school until the early 90s.
Literally 2 years after I graduated it was a mandatory 1 year suspension for even bringing a shotgun in locked trunk with duck decoys etc.
Clinton had been elected and the school shootings that were part of the cultural change that brought he and the witch to power became evident.
Modern America came rushing in.
It's kind of embarrassing having another American put so much time and effort into understanding another gun culture without ever trying to understand their own 😕
You don't have a militia, your government is tyrannical, you rely on political violence to get rights and freedoms, your communities are insular and relegated to small towns instead of bringing the whole nation together.
No no, I think we got the picture allright.
It's clear to me this guy hasn't actually ever hung out with firearm enthusiasts in the US, we're the same as the swiss. Very fun, safe and respectful. I wish we could remove the stigma of firearms here.
big agreed. He is clearly not friends with any common firearms owners and gets his entire perception if US gun culture from the news.
Exactly, nothing has changed when it comes to guns in America since the founding of America except the liberal perception of guns has changed. That's it. His perceptions are what he thinks is real.
He knows nothing but is just spreading the narrative of those who would turn us all into subjects.
It sounds like to me he has never sacrificed anything for his country of the United States. He goes to another country and falls in love with it. Good, denounce your American citizenship and stay with the Swiss.
My prediction is that when the murder and suicide rates by firearms in the US is lowered to those seen in Switzerland then that stigma will be lifted.
Crazy because as an American, this is how I grew up shooting. Heavy instruction and for sport. Sporting clays and long range 22. Cal. Target practice with iron sights. It's what made me fall in love with guns. And as I grew up I developed the same love for archery. It's the joy of execution, prosision, and marksmanship. Not the joy of the gun or the damage it can cause.
Thanks for the explanation of the Swiss culture and how it is not a gun-issue, but a society/culture situation that makes a difference.
In many parts of the US guns are not feared. Guns are a way of life for clubs, hunting, social. It would be awesome for someone to do a documentary on the many different ways guns are treated within the locale, of the different societies, within the US. Guns within a city, and guns in rural areas are not treated the same or used in the same way.
Don't take his word as gospel. Most of the historical "facts" in this video are either invented or wrong.
The US has an educational system failure when it comes to firearms. I was tought firearm safety by my parents, grandparents and uncles. This needs to happen more. Hell, i was seven years old, my first two rifles I ever shot were an M-1 Garand and an AR-15. I love the gun culture in America because I was raised the right way. I continue to teach my son this culture and anyone around me whom will listen
A true American! God bless you and yours.
@@brenttesterman3171 Thank you. Merry Christmas
This! I was taught gun safety when I was around 8, starting with air rifles and working my way up, always being taught the proper safety techniques and why we use guns. I lived on a farm and every now and then a predator would get in a barn and I’d get the ar-15 and take care of them real quick. People now a days aren’t taught gun safety enough and aren’t shown why we still need guns. Like you said I too will certainly pass this culture to my son as well
@@nic9458 Thank you Merry Christmas! Good point with the air rifles, I didn't include them in my comment. I used them a lot when I was a kid. To be honest I had an incident when I were younger with a BB gun. It tought me a very important lesson of firearm safety. Treat all guns as if they are loaded, never point a gun at something that you are not willing to destroy
That's the way the freedom of America coming out. Each parent learning their children how to shoot and how to learn gun safety. Your Uncle's your Grandpa's. That's howdialer by the time I was seven I was shit at twenty two of the time, I was nine I killed my first dear
Everyone should watch this whole video ... then go watch Colion Noir's video. Colion is a lawyer and gun law expert. He points out everything that Johnny got wrong (which is a fair amount)
This
Johnny got a lot wrong on this issue. They really dumbed down what shooting is in the US.
This vid is not comparing gun enjoyers and how they use guns, but how normies in both countries do it
@@antonikudlicki1100lol no. It’s about how gun obsession differs between countries.
It’s in the vid description
Yeah johnny didn't get the lessons he was taught.
After reading through the comments there is one thing that I have not seen mentioned yet, that is the homogenous nature of Switzerland vs the US and the difference in population sizes. There are 2 gun cultures in America. One of them is the gang gun culture which is where you see most of the shootings and other criminal acts coming from. The other one is the gun enthusiasts which are going to look a lot like what you see in Switzerland. Since I don't know about it I would be curious to see what organized crime is like in Switzerland. Organized crime is one of the biggest reason why citizens in the US feel the need to protect themselves with firearms.
This is a VERY important point you make here. We can talk about "gun culture", and that's reasonable enough, but the culture in general is what counts the most. Comparing one country with another is always a sketchy proposition. There are many regions in the U.S. that you could compare with small countries like Switzerland equitably, Utah for example. Others, not.
Being a large nation, the U.S. does unfortunately have gang culture, pockets of violent narcotics traffic conflict, and communities with high rates of non-intact family units.
This doesn't mean there is no crime in Switzerland, but as you said the homogenous, and by that I mean generally law abiding, nature of Swiss society simply cannot be compared with U.S urban life.
Culture matters. Mogadishu vs. Salt Lake City.
Where does mass school shooters fall in American gun culture
Switzerland is not homogenous, there’s four languages spoken and the largest foreign population in all europe (26% of Swiss population are foreigners).
You can go to a canton Vaud village and then go 5 km away to a canton Valais village and the people are different, the don’t have the same culture, the sane accent etc. What we all have in common is the will to stay united despite our differences.
@mikebrown1881 comparing the differences in Switzerland and the differences in America is like saying that the difference between one cent and five cents is comparable to the difference between one cent and one thousand dollars. Yes, differences exist, but comparatively, they don't exist, and Switzerland is much more homogeneous than the US. There are somewhere between 350 and 430 different languages spoken in the US. Our culture is all over the place, with each state having its own culture with many subcultures that run through each state.
I don't think people are into guns because of organized crime. they are into them because orgs. like the NRA are pushing it so much. This ain't the 1930's. I went grocery shopping today and I didn't need a gun. Where do you live where you are scared about organized crime?
Hey Johnny, I'm Swiss, I was 25 years in the Swiss army, did you see the wooden stock rifles, they are mainly the model 31( 1931) and still perfectly precise! The ammunition used is the GP11,( Gewehr Patrone 1911)! It's also used in the next mode Stg 57, we called our ammo shortly "GP11"
Very gun knowledgeable
One more detail, Johnny, it's called "GP 11" becouse it has been used, created in 1911, the rifle was the long 1911 gun, similar to the 1931 but longer! Frankly I loved to shoot wit my AR 57 with this cartridge, GP11- 7.5 mm!
@@Pax.RUclips Just a detail, I made my "boot camp" 17 weeks, in 69, by the elite troops "Grenadier", I've been instructed as flamethrower and explosive specialist, the Swiss army instructed us so good, that after the 17 weeks we knew everything about combat and was ready to go to war! The survival time in ear time, was for the Grenadier 30 seconds!We was feared by every other corps when we had our "repetition" courses! Our motto is the same as the USMC, Semper Fidelis!
@@antonyg.952 Wow, this is mind blowing! 🔥 😯
As a Veteran, I purchased my first gun after leaving service, I felt like I was required to do so, and because it was my right to do so. Lack of education, drugs, and mental illness are the cause of chaos in America. More gun laws are just going to push us away from each other, forcing us to choose a side. Its clear that Switzerland has a great gun educational system and lots of pride in their Nation. Our government has caused too much division. . .
Switzerland has a higher class of citizens than we do. The people are the difference. Gun violence is virtually nonexistent in our good neighborhoods. I dare say that Switzerland doesn’t let people come into their country illegally either.
So you think laws will push us away from each other? I never thought of it like that but it's an interesting idea I can't say you're wrong on. I just don't see any other way to bring some order to that chaos. I remember stating once on a similar topic comments section once about gun laws that in order to drive a car legally that you would need to have a license, and the crazies were immediately upset with me throwing out that idea because, "Driving a car is a privilege and owning a gun is a right." Like, I get what they're saying here but I also agree that innocent folks have the right to live without people showing up to a club and shooting up the place because their ex is in there with someone new. It's just bonkers to me that we can't try something.
@@charliekealoha... Laws are good for putting ideas and traditions down for clarity.
But the actual order comes from the individuals and their culture ... Chaotic people with a tonne of laws would still lead to chaos ... While orderly people with no laws will still be organized.
So from this video I can surmise that the tradition and culture surrounding guns lead to different behaviors in each country ... And even if they swapped laws the people themselves would likely not change.
@@charliekealoha if It was entirely free ,maybe it would gain some traction but the govt will put a price on it just as they do with driving; pay to get your license, pay to register vehicle, expiration dates, etc etc, This is why I think it get immediately stepped on to have licenses which I am not for because of such. It's also just a straight up deterrent to law abiding people of fuck that I dont want to do through all that red tape and infringes on what is a right.
"Our government has caused too much division..." It's by design. If the govt can keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves, we have very little time to pay attention to what they're up to.
I'm Swiss and you do make a great point on one part of the issue (one that I always knew), but there are a lot more factors than this. I wish you would at least mentioned the other things that make a difference, and that America does have well behaved shooting communities like the Swiss ones.
WOW looky here Johnny....even one of the Swiss just commented your video is WAY off and missed the point
The guy already has a narrative he wants to say, and he will ignore anything that will go against it.
Most of the problem lies in the fact that individuals are not held responsible for their actions. The criminal doesn't get punished for his actions, everyone else get punished.
Yeah when you have the same demographics and economics you will be a lot less smug which is going to happen as you import all of Northern Africa
@@cornballmcgoo7174 I'm not smug, I agree with you 100%. My point was that he's only focusing on one aspect, this issue is multi faceted.
Johnny, I would love to see you do something like this in small-town USA. I think you'll find that the average gun owner is a law abiding citizen who practices proper gun safety. But that's not the narrative the Media pushes because they seem to think guns are the problem. If guns were the problem we would get taken out by our firearms lol. People are the problem, but it goes deeper than that in the USA. Look at how many people in the USA are on psychiatric medication. We have become a decidedly unhappy and even depressed nation. Combine that with the anti-social lives we lead, living through Social Media instead of the real world, and you can see why half the country shares nothing in common with the other half. Poor mental health and a general lack of morality have probably contributed to any gun problems in America much more than anything else.
good points
I agree with you on these points.
Question… How can you repeatedly compare shooting culture in Switzerland to the USA when you’ve never explored a shooting range in the US.
We keep reiterating “protected right” which is 100% the end of the conversation. That whole part where it shall not be infringed is key. I’ll follow gun laws because I’m not a criminal but when we have millions of guns in the hands of criminals who do not and have never abided by firearms laws, I am staunchly apposed to gun control.
Every living citizen has the “right”. You or the government should not get to decide who can or cannot own firearms. There should be no restrictions on which guns we can or cannot own full auto, suppressed, grenades etc.
@@18rollinhard grenades aren't arms sweetie
@@Robert-hy3vv grenades actually remove arms so they are anti constitutional
@@Robert-hy3vv Ummm... Explosives = Arms. Nice try though. ("sweetie" Pathetic way to gaslight btw little one.)
you just dont get it! If we make guns illegal then criminals cant use them! They will just get teleported into a jail cell the moment they touch a gun!11!11!111!1
If a person uses a gun to commit a crime it is called "gun violence". If a person uses a vehicle while they are impaired it's called "drunk driving". Why do we blame the gun, but not the car?
Spoons don't make people fat. Pencils don't make writing errors but then again those things don't represent freedom and self reliance so of course we need to blame guns for violence otherwise how would you convince people to trust and depend on the government for everything?
It. Just like this video is political. Nothing more.
The Swiss guns are a privilege not a right like in the United States this punk Johnny Harris can kick rocks and become a Swiss citizen. This documentary is full of lies and debunked by the Great Colin Noir
because theyre not trying to ban cars, yet.
Well there was all that cars fault for letting that drunk driver get it
Wow I would be at the range every day. It is the coaching assistance that is invaluable I feel. This is why the Swiss has perfected this. Everyone gets top professional assistance and this helps the feeling of belonging.
this isnt really something that happens often outside of events and clubs.
I grew up in rural Missouri, we have manned gun ranges and use at your own type ranges at conservation areas. I grew up doing meat shoots at VFW halls. We shot clay pigeons in the fields around farms. We had much community firearms events. Their is also 4h clubs that do shooting. Maybe it comes from the heavy German background of many in the area, I cannot say as for other states. But the community is here. It's just not plastered on the evening news 24/7
I've never been to a gun range. Would have to drive 2 hours to get to one where I live.
I grew up in the USA with grandparents, parents, and close relatives who each owned numerous guns for hunting and competitive shooting. The rule was drilled into me from childhood: "Every gun is a loaded gun" and I was trained to handle even my toy guns accordingly. My six children have been raised the same way. In four generations, from 1898 to 2023, there has not been one "gun accident". Not because our guns were locked in a safe or unloaded, but because of the understanding of how to respectfully and safely handle a firearm as the deadly tool that it is. Simple rules. Teach your children to handle toy guns with those same rules and they will carry through as muscle memory to adulthood. Safe gun handling must be a mentality, not an afterthought. If the NRA Hunter Safety Course was a required class for all 13-year-olds, you would see the gun accident statistics plummet. Ignorance is fatal. I think that Johnny's selected/colored facts, analysis, and conclusions paint the picture of the issues brought up in this video simplistically and somewhat inaccurately. However, that's my point of view and I do appreciate the comparison of the USA to the Swiss. However, many other factors cause the differences that he pointed out that need to be considered. At the end of the day, gun safety still boils down to treating every gun as if it were loaded. Just ask Alec Baldwin...
@valleytiller42, what you said is all true.
Personally i think it also has a lot to do with what i call the taboo effect. When one is raised with respect for and familiarity with tools, (guns or other tools) the taboo effect does not exist. For example, if a parent never allows their kids in their woodworking shop because the power tools are dangerous, the kids will likely have a curiosity and desire to explore the forbidden workshop when the parents aren't around. This can obviously lead to accidents as the kids have no idea how to safely operate said tools. They'll wander wide-eyed around the shop like Johnny in Switzerland.
But if the kids are properly trained and familiarized with said tools, the taboo effect disappears and there is no desire to sneak around and mess with them when adults aren't around.
My 2c.
Bingo. One of the issues Johnny chose to ignore - that the gun shop owner hinted at - is that anti-gun activists have worked very hard t eliminate gun use and safety training in the US. The result is a higher level of accidents.
There was a whole seriouse of see a gun run and go get an adult. Of course, we ignore that that creates an interest in discovery and kids will pick them up and play with them. I made sure that my children understood loaded and clearing guns by the time they were 5 and that anytime they were interested, I would get them out for them to look at, and work with them and get comfortable with them. I would make an exagerated effort to always check and clear them when getting them and before giving it to them to hold, and insist they went through the process.
Training makes a huge difference in changing attitudes.
Correct. My father bought me my first gun in 1965 at 12 years old, and expected me to learn gun safety and responsibility. There were many sources of gun safety training. I can remember taking classes in 4-H and other organizations. We never had accidents or violence. I can remember shooting competitions and resulting camaraderie much like what is shown in this video.
Agreed. In addition to that, the Biden administration has redefined "Mass Shootings" as 3 or more including the shooter. In the govt. statistics, they do not break down the numbers. Accidental shootings including those by police are not taken out and neither are suicides. It's like the C numbers.... fantasy.
"One of the issues Johnny chose to ignore - that the gun shop owner hinted at - is that anti-gun activists have worked very hard t eliminate gun use and safety training in the US. The result is a higher level of accidents."
Same thing goes with police in the USA. Police tried to make a giant training ground and what happened? It was attacked multiple times by 'protestors' trying to stop it from being built and opened. The media played it off like it wasn't a dangerous attack and that the training building wasn't even necessary in the first place. So many catch 22's in how things are reported. @@RichardChappell1
Funny how I'm not American nor a Swiss. But i like firearms in general and what you've described as Swiss gun culture is exactly the same as what i have learned about American gun culture. The difference is the Swiss doesn't have a major ghetto culture that is being promoted and unpunished in the name of reparations and diversity
Very WELL said!!
Thank-You! ( From A 59 Yr Old US Citizen who spent time in Law Enforcement).
You really described things Very Well!
Thank you!
The US has a mental health issue disguised as a gun issue.
Yes. Just imagine if those suicides weren't counted in the" Gun violence" statistics. Or if we didn't count the inner city crime committed with illegally owned guns. America would be one of the safest places in the world. It's crazy how people can be brainwashed just by the manipulation of statistics. I appreciate people who actually do their own research.
Bingo
This needs a part 2. You can't ask Swiss people about American gun culture without also experiencing gun culture here. It's not always how the media portrays it, and it's very similar to how you described the Swiss.
he is american
Just wanted to add a few more thoughts...
What does it mean to "train"? One kind of training is to shoot a fixed target only from a prone position. That is one type of shooting. But not all shooting is in a prone target and not all targets are stationary. That is not to say that that type of training isn't valuable. But, just looking at a hunter, for example, they don't always get the chance to take a shot while laying prone. If the grass or brush is too high, then prone won't work. You need to practice different positions to shoot so that you are competent in shooting regardless of the physical posture you need to take when taking a shot. Also, there is CQB training. Not saying that I'd ever want to be in a CQB situation but that is a thing and it may be necessary in a skirmish. I'd certainly rather be taking sniper shots at an unsuspecting enemy than going head to head against them.
So, when they guy and Johnny mock "running through the forest, shooting everything up," personally, this sounds like a 3-gun competition or any other running and gunning competition which, in my mind, is another good form of training. It forces you to have good muzzle discipline and trains you to have good target acquisition and reloading skill while on the move.
And one last thing... Johnny marvels at the camaraderie of the Swiss gun culture but it doesn't seem like he has given a chance to see the camaraderie in the US gun culture by going to a competition to see how families participate in competitions.
I've never seen families in competition in the mountain West.
I think Colion Noir said it best when he said “Johnny is reaching deep into his bullshit bag on this one!” Our 2A isn’t just about being able to protect ourselves but mainly about being able to stand up against a tyrannical government. That is the entire point of the 2A. They wrote it so the people couldn’t be disarmed by a tyrannical government because they had just fought for our country’s freedom from a tyrannical government! This documentary is nothing more than a gun control advertisement in disguise.
Yup. As he tries to say NRA politicized guns and scaring America and Americans. He's doing just that. A teethless wolf in sheep's clothing.
Yep
100%!
Yep. This video is a stab at our gun rights, while attempting to disguise that.
Isnt that how it started in Switzerland ? With William Tell standing up against his ruler / government . He also said because everyone has trained to use a firearm and has one Switzerland was able to stay neutral . Also isn’t that why Japan did not want to invade us in WWII , because of our guns in citizens hands , plus , I believe , we the people would use said firearms to defend our country if we were invaded by a foreign country . He also did not ask the Swiss people if they would use their firearms to defend themselves against an attacker
I think that Colin Noir does a terrific job debunking a lot of big misconceptions presented by this vid
You mean Colion Noir? 🤔
I assume by 'misconceptions" you mean "Johnny's deceptions"
@@padraics yeah, misconceptions = bold face lies. oh sorry, "misinformation" is what the kids call it these days right?
@@shirothehero0609calm down
and you can bet that dishonest Harris won't post another video about Colion Noir's corrections, in the same way that he posted a new video when people called him out on his other video about rewriting history
Props to the guy coaching gun safety at the start
Some people are afraid of an armed citezenry. The NRA is no longer a representative of gun owners, friends of mine and myself have quit that organization long ago. They are interested in enrichening themselves and keeping the "us vs them" fued going. The way to solve this problem is to reinstitute the univesal draft with no excuses exept for religous reasons, but you would still have to have weapons training. I am a veteran and we are all bound by that service. We could recreate the Swiss model of a militia. But it could never be done if it is left up to the politicians who are afraid of anyone with a gun.
I like how he says, "its a shooting competition... for teenagers, and they have been doing it for hundreds of years" like its the strangest thing he's ever heard of because nothing like that happens in the US ever, yet up until like the 80s most highschools had gun clubs and shooting competitions.
I was on the air rifle team in my HS in the early 2000’s. Also drove all over the south east competing in NRA highpower (AR-15’s) and a bit of idpa and trap with my dad. The USA probably has a much bigger competitive shooting culture than the Swiss. This guy is just telling lies for clicks and an agenda - probably a big chunk of ignorance and stupidity as well….
Well, these teenagers must be pretty old now. It will also have required lots of ammo. Are they still using blunderbusses and muskets X'D
We still had shooting comps in my mid city, high-school in the 90s. And that was even with all the gang violence shootings outside the school.
We should have classes that promote the safe use of firearms and civics and marksmanship in every school in the USA
He totally got it wrong when he said that the second amendment was to protect the government against the people, it is for the people to protect themselves against the government and any enemy foreign or DOMESTIC, the second amendment is a means to protect ourselves from any type of tyranny
Never forget the one part he keeps glossing over, the 2nd ammendment was written AFTER Americans fought off their OWN tyrannical government. Its in the bill of rights, to perserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness from all forms of tyranny including our own gov. Also this "community" he somehow found in Switzerland, je could easily find at thousands of gun ranges and courses in the US.
The real difference then is in how the community is shaped.
In Switzerland, under the flag of the nation, to protect the nation and community.
In the USA, for fun and to protect just your own family.
Really says a lot about your communities and your country.
And also about your government.
I think in my country, the Netherlands, it's already better than in yours, but has been going downhill with open borders and other policies that has slowly been increasing the distance between people and government, much in an American fashion, by trying to do everything on a larger scale, rather than smaller (including the EU).
I really hope we can reverse in a Swiss direction, so we can have small scale government close to the people again.
@@faramund9865 See, in America we don't have to hope. We are ready. That's why we can just sit back and have fun and we will be able to protect our families AND our country if the need arises. The only difference is, it's not mandated under the flag of our nation. We do it because most of us will sacrifice everything to protect this nation, without being forced to do so. We also have open borders, which in my opinion is a collusion of government entities to destabilize us and dilute our readiness and effectiveness should they decide to cross the line (some could argue they crossed it long ago and we are just good people who will do whatever it takes to keep the peace). I believe this is collusion on a global scale, as this is happening only to western nations in Europe and the United States. We continuously turn the other cheek to blatant illegal acts by our government, the last thing we want is violence.
when you said usa gun laws are for fun you lost all credibility @@faramund9865
"AFTER Americans fought off their OWN tyrannical government"- how did the British Government, a govt that is miles away and for whom America is not considered part of their own nation but as a Prinincipality- foreign colony, and when Americans did not have British Citizenship rights be their "Own Government"?
"Its in the bill of rights, to perserve life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness from all forms of tyranny including our own gov"- sure bud. That is why the founders intended this right to be exercised to form militias, and not some obese dude in his basement with 17 guns.
"Also this "community" he somehow found in Switzerland, je could easily find at thousands of gun ranges and courses in the US'- The only difference is that, in Switzerland it is required. In the United States, it is not only the trained, disciplined owner who frequents the gun range that gets to keep their guns- but also the 18 year old with a history of violence and mental health issues, who can then use to shoot down a school, murder 14 kids and a teacher and then commit suicide. A Right without Responsibilities attached isn't a Right, it's a Privilege[and privileges are for monarchies, not a Republic].
@@Prasanth-ro4nd Go look at the Colion Noir response and learn something.
"Collective rights theorists argue that addition of the subordinate clause qualifies the rest of the amendment by placing a limitation on the people's right to bear arms. However, if the amendment truly meant what collective rights advocates propose, then the text would read "[a] well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the States to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." However, that is not what the framers of the amendment drafted. The plain language of the amendment, without attenuate inferences therefrom, shows that the function of the subordinate clause was not to qualify the right, but instead to show why it must be protected. The right exists independent of the existence of the militia. If this right were not protected, the existence of the militia, and consequently the security of the state, would be jeopardized." (U.S. v. Emerson, 46 F.Supp.2d 598 (N.D.Tex. 1999))
This just scratches the surface ... it needs a part 2 to go deeper in why its really so different
Everything he liked or enjoyed about the "gun community" in Switzerland he could experience in America, he just chooses not to.
I was watching Colion Noir's critique on this video. On it, Colion Noir highlighted Johnny Harris saying that visiting these gun ranges in Switzerland really changed his opinion on how guns are not scary. I feel the safest at gun ranges in America and didn't even have to fly to Switzerland to learn that!
This dude needs forced off the internet. Anyone spewing misinformation. And especially whilst "earning" income from it.
@@AstanaxKnight Ya, anyone in the US "gun community" will see the favoritism in the video. The US has a healthy gun culture and an unhealthy society.
@@jamesbondo13 Nah, this video is okay. You're going to get different messages from it depending on which side of the aisle you're on. If you're pro-gun, it's going to rustle your jimmies because it paints the 2A as the reason why gun crimes exist. If you're anti-gun, it's going to rustle your jimmies because it goes against the foundation of every narrative and ideology you champion. The 2A is already painted as such, no skin off my back there, but the butthurt it brings to the anti-gun community is amusing.
Look at how he kept bringing up gun deaths in the USA, but never accounted for our population size OR life preservations. He outright lied about more being murdered than saved by guns, because he is pushing a narrative rather than doing research. An American that is scared of guns would never see that fear of guns is the true problem with American gun culture. Classic American tourist: ashamed of their own nation, obsessed with all others. I was hoping he would notice his errors as his vacation vlog continued.
A phrase was used near the beginning, "Learn about guns." More than that I wanted to learn about "people's" attitudes about guns. THAT is the obvious difference between Switzerland and gun grabbing governments.
Over and over it was demonstrated that Switzerland wants it's people responsible for preventing guns from causing negative outcomes.
Gun grabbing people want to make the guns (the objects) responsible for the harmful outcomes caused by people with guns.
Wise governments want to promote responsibility of it's people. Unwise governments want to bully it's people.
Blaming guns for mass murders is like blaming forks for obesity.
I'm 70 years old. I was in Army JROTC in high school. We had a marksmanship class in that curriculum that included shooting in the on campus gun range. No one got all wide-eyed when a neighbor pulled out fire arms, or put a shotgun in their truck. Our culture has grown to fear guns only in the last 30-40 years from my perspective. Therefore, it is not too late to turn that back around. Teach our children (and untrained adults) how use, care for, and respect guns. I recall hearing a historian say that one reason Japan chose not to attack mainland America in WWII was they knew our citizenry was well armed. It is one thing to confront a powerful military, but it is quite intimidating when the entire citizenry is also a potential assailant. Let's restore the requirement for fighting age youth to be trained for the militia.
You know we have shooting clubs and competitions here in the US too. I’ve found the long range community in particular to be very supportive and friendly.
I have one on my back porch.
he doesnt want people to know that. he wants people to think that everywhere else has great gun control, but we dont.
He didn't mention alot of things tells partial truths so his narrative can be pushed. Propaganda master
@@KAG1776every single video!
@@KAG1776 This is literally a CIA channel lmao, don't expect to see truth here, this guy glows.
Cool video. Great editing. It just sucks you had to omit facts about the 2A in order to drive your narrative.
Exactly you missed quite a bit
@@nycbike73 he* missed quite a bit. I understand the point of the constitution pretty well
@@nycbike73nope, the op is spot on. Johnny deliberate twists the meaning in order to push the narrative. The 2A isn’t to protect the country from outsiders, it’s specifically meant to protect the citizens from the government. That’s the part Johnny very obviously suppresses.
A Billionaire-backed cabal, a very nefarious Deep State, and ideological globalist neocons and neoliberals are a power axis in the US that has worked in unison to undermine US national culture with insidious cultural Marxism.
And naturally they are extremely hostile to an armed citizenry as that is an eventual manner of opposition that impedes the total totalitarian take over that they desire to achieve.
He also is wrong about the Swiss in many parts. His "swiss partner" is also not really representative or full of knowledge. I am sure he is a Socialist.
I was born at the foot of Mt. Pilatus, which you have hiked during the intro of this video. By now, I mostly live abroad for work reasons. Switzerland still is a rather mystical place, where people live together happily. The fact is though, that this reality is in danger. By now, most Swiss have a foreign background, Swiss culture and values are gradually lost, and like everywhere else, problems are increasing. Switzerland also faces a lot of pressure from the EU, and sacred factors for peace, like our neutrality are in danger. The sad reality of life is that one's secutity, comfort and privilege are in danger very quickly, if you don't stand in for them. Also, Switzerlane receives too many people who just come for economic reasons and do not respect our culture and traditions.
In the 70s, every high school in my area had competitive rifle shooting teams. We had no school shootings back then.
A lot of bomb scares on days of a lot of exams, though.
It's like he doesn't know about these contests in America. Many of them in idyllic locations. He just loves Switzerland
Yes, I didn't see him shoot one round in USA yet had quite a bit to say about it. Switzerland is a small homogonous and wealthy culture. He is comparing apples to oranges.
I'm a liberal American competitive shooter. I have to say that the Swiss gun range seems a lot like the ranges I've been to in the US. I'm watching this with a strong suspicion that Johnny has never been to a gun range before, and that he wrote the script before visiting.
I'm not too familiar with this guy, but considering it seems like he was basically taught how to use a gun in this vid, I think it's pretty safe to say he didn't attempt to learn American gun culture before learning about Swiss gun culture.
But you see, you can tell he knows everything about this subject because he speaks softly and hikes with a pretty nature background.
Tired of this over educated pretentious political preachers.
A Belgian shooting friend of mine (a former Monk I met while in Germany) sent this to me asking my thoughts. Germany was very restrictive in the manner and ability to sports shooting, but I don't know what competitive shooting has to do with your inalienable right to self defense. Especially when major cities are abandoning good police practices, and letting the cities become run by gangs. If anything we all need to be armed as part of the militia full time if our leaders have abandoned civic policing.
As a non-American I'm confident Johnny learned all he knows about 'American gun culture' from watching CNN and MSNBC.
I think hes probably being paid by a certain interest group.
Thank you for clearing this up. I always wondered what the differences were.
I love the fact that their ranges make it so you're able to retrieve your spent casings without having to call a seize fire or to be cleared and behind firing line
You didn't have to travel to Switzerland when shoots like this are happening all the time all across America. Club competitions, and shows are a monthly occurrence.
He didn't want to highlight actual gun culture in America. You're absolutely right, but his bias on this subject means he wanted to cast American gun ownership in a negative light.
Im super pro 2nd amendment, yes what you say is true. But Biden and his idiots are coming after our guns at a time we may need them the most to protect ourselves.
@@MolonFrikenLabe A large amount of states in the US need more gun control that's a fact I don't know what else it could mean I am close to halfway mark in the video currently, Some of the things various Reddit posts Twitter posts and youtube channels various postings of what they find during magnet fishing i'm surprised currently there are no policies in some of the states I have seen that have done anything about the guns that people find in rather unsuspecting places or at least by my understanding I just don't understand how you find guns in certain places. But as a foreigner my main bone of contestion is the fact that Too many psychopaths and people with anger issues can easily have access to guns I know precautions vary by state but I just wish it was more widespread that better precautions and policies were taken so that the blank people don't own guns because the healthy argument to have is that there needs to be better gun control I Met into two American citizens and I did ask them about some of my curiosities and when I mentioned the gun culture interestingly enough they said Guns don't kill people people kill people and well I made it a point to them to ask about things like forks and knives that people could use to stab others well I could outmaneuver or outrun somebody attending to stab me potentially outrun them if I'm lucky because I cannot outrun a bullet even by sheer luck I can end up dodging it but that luck in reality is quite slim but otherwise the video is interesting so far
@@skystreem4860 by more gun control we all know u meant to say less as in no gun control. After all a gun is an inanimate object, if anything we need to teach people how to use them again like the old days. We have a people problem not a gun problem that's a fact that us really a fact unlike urs.
@@skystreem4860 ok, I see where your logic has lead you astray here. If a man wants to commit mass murder he can use guns sure. But he can also use a red suv (Waukesha Wisconsin), a moving van (Toronto, Canada), a semi (Nice, France), fireworks and pressure cookers (Boston marathon), so on and so on. Getting rid of guns will stop Mass shootings, but it will not stop Mass murderer.
Johnny, I greatly enjoyed this video, as I do much of your work. But I really wish you would have done more research on the equally good aspects of gun culture in America ( which are also extremely prevalent in the US) that you seem to imply are only found in Switzerland.
Our own country has all of the things you found in Switzerland and more. Shooting competitions, communities with high levels of respect for firearms and firearm safety, those who value training, and family, and camaraderie.
While I don't blame you for wanting to travel to Switzerland, you don't have to travel halfway around the globe to find many great examples of healthy, responsible gun culture right here in our own country. And I really wish you would have represented that here.
Moreover, you missed a huge opportunity to suggest that we expand upon what's already great about specific pockets of the gun culture in America.
To leave that out of the conversation is to put out a message that intentionally or not, is misleading, particularly to foreign audiences, or those within our own country who are relying on you to communicate about parts of the USA they've never directly experience.
Well written response. Thank you. I wish I had been more polite in mine. I was really enjoying the tour of Swiss shooting ranges when the tone turned sour. It was surprising and I let it upset me. I hope the creators can still take my comment as constructive criticism as it was meant.
I think there's more than enough in the video to conclude that the misleading parts we very intentional.
If I understood Switzerland gun policy is that they don't take them home. Their guns are " home on the range". Ours is @ home with deranged sometimes and that's unfortunate. There must be more to safety in Switzerland if they can not worry about being robbed and murdered in their homes?
@@Billy-cs4cc they do take them home. It shows that in the video. After you are conscripted for a short duration, you are required by law to take your rifle home with you.
@@Billy-cs4cc Until recently, Switzerland was a homogenous society, meaning everyone was Swiss, except for tourists. Now, all countries in Europe except Poland and Hungary are being invaded by illegal aliens from Africa and the Middle East. The USA has also been invaded through decades of border-neglect, and the recent ridiculous and catastrophic open borders betrayal from Biden. Now, we have MS-13, drug cartels, BLM and Antifa and prisoners set free and told to run across the border, mental patients set free and told to run across the border.....We have Iranians, Jordanians, Syrians, Africans...just everyone in their millions, unvetted and mostly fighting-aged males. It is only a matter of time before what used to be the melting-pot of America becomes the Powder Keg of a Purge, all over Western civilization.
One of my biggest problems with the documentary is the suggestion that by your government granting you guns you have a duty to defend them no mater what. When your duty should be to the people within your country weather or not you have firearms. And as a result the right to own firearms ought to be seen as a natural right in order to fulfill that duty.
Also side tangent I actually quite like the Swiss Idea of a militia as opposed to a standing army as it ensures the people ultimately have power over the government. It also ensures that no wars are waged for some stupid cause that benefits no one, and instead incentivizes isolationism.
Funny to see Joi the first seconds of the video in a multi million subscriber channel, haha... Good lad at the Brünig Indoor Shooting Range.
It struck me too, after watching Johnny's video, that he was comparing the "reality" of gun culture in Switzerland with a *narrative* about gun culture in America. I was annoyed that he hadn't visited any gun ranges in America before making his comparisons, which sounded more like pushing an agenda than furthering our understanding of the real world.
All that video production ain't cheap. And we all know who the sponsors are.
This is a propaganda film disguised as a documentary, nothing more.
yeah and the message is "be safe and responsible when you own a firearm and maybe the greater culture can change for the better." How dare the video say something so terrible 🙄@@rennkafer13
@@apeksblue except he completely ignores that the exact thing he's showing in Switzerland happens here in the US too, we have the same sort of competitions, with a similar "culture". I don't believe that was an accident. We won't even get into the misleading parts of the "documentary" regarding the 2nd Amendment,
What exactly about the documentary was misleading regarding the 2nd amendment? @@rennkafer13
I am American and I do not compromise. The second amendment is not a restriction for us. It is a restriction for the Government. Shall not be infringed.
Especially now, since that government and its military have grown to become the most powerful entities in the world. Do not bend to them.
@@paleoph6168 my brother in christ, you citizens are the nation, you made that happen
@@illama5330my brother in christ our votes mean nothing and our leaders pass funding acts without our input.
In my case im 17 and not even old enough to vote yet, we didnt ask for this yet we have to live with it.
@@illama5330 My brother in Christ, it was once voted on that slavery was a moral right in this country. Does that mean it was immoral to oppose it?
@@illama5330 Citizens of the nation have the duty to defend their nation from domestic tyrants.
You started out in a great way. Thank you. American politics pits groups against each other. Democrat against republican, black against white, poor against rich, trans against hetero, Coca Cola against Pepsi. We fight each other on everything in this country. We are told we need to change those "other" people so we can have peace. I do not see this with the Swiss people. What you show with Switzerland shooting is what I grew up with and strive for. The problem is not laws, but people. In the US we have "LAW ENFOREMENT" to drive revenue, not protect and serve. We have privatized incarceration. It's a business. Bring people together like Switzerland and crime will reduce. No matter what "object" is outlawed or restricted, crime, murder, mass killings, abuse, mayhem will ensue in a populace at war with it's self. Because you put the blame on an object (firearm) and not on the root cause (people), I'm giving you a thumbs down.
My heart sank when he passed you a riffle, and he didn't clear it and knew you didn't know how. Very,very responsible and respectful m
The problem is not the gun, it's the society around them
Yeah, guns don't shoot by themselves, unless they malfunction lol
failed integration of the black community into wider society has lead to such insane amounts of guncrime and mass shootings in the usa
wow just wow
@@ridingweeb4801 Dude... don't be racist. Just ban all guns, knives and pointy objects and homicides will drop hard.
why dyou need a gun then? they have a specific purpose...
The Swiss remind me of how Rural Americans (like myself) treat weapons, which is as tools to protect or hunt with and as a hobby to enjoy with friends and family. I've lived around firearms my entire life (hell, my folks even sold them for 25 years) but the politicization of them just ruined the purpose I was always told they were intended for and thus the culture that surrounds them.
Protect from wildlife you mean? If you mean protect from people then you are part of the problem :D
Doesn't it kind of bother you that he's misrepresenting us based on misinformation he likely garnered from Hollywood and the internationalist media cabal?
I donated $5 a month through Patrion to The Bloke on the Range years ago and cannot log into Patrion to edit or cancel. I'm in the mountains of NW of the USA. Dandahermit.
Perhaps the difference is also linked to the mutual trust between the government and citizens. Politics in Switzerland is also a militia affair. Parliamentarians in Switzerland, for the most part, have a full-time job. The link between population and politics is close. And referendum rights contribute to this mutual trust. In Switzerland, the weapon is more linked to the idea of defending the homeland and the population than defending oneself. And for shooting enthusiasts, it's more of a sporting, competitive spirit. It’s truly a military-sports culture.
Wait… so Switzerland became its own country because a rebellion got rid of a terrible ruler, then stood up a militia of its own citizens for defense? Wild, I feel like I’ve heard a story just like that before. Maybe another country, I think they like guns too actually
it's more complicated than that, but it for sure is a pretty interesting story.
And one of the ways they maintain their neutrality as a country is to have everyone do mandatory military service for 2-3 years after the age of 18. THEN, they get to keep their service rifles and MUST maintain profficiency with them.
@@mikeford963 good thing we care about rights then. It's not a right if you have to earn it. lol
@@iDeagles Maybe not, but that doesn't mean rights don't come without responsibility either.
Wait.... so you mean, Switzerland which regulates gun ownership, is much muuucch safer than that of the American system?
I'm shocked!!!
A lot of American “gun culture” is very similar. A very relaxed sport. Media portrayals are vastly different than the way I grew up with guns. The USA is an extremely diverse country in contrast to Switzerland so anything we do, there will be a wider variety of culture around that activity and the most extreme is what gets portrayed.
Switzerland has 4 official languages and 4 different cultures. They are more diverse than us.
You are stuck on the land mass and population size.
@@tecumseh4095You don't know what you're talking about - "4 different cultures?!"
America has literally hundreds of cultures here- and that's not even mentioning ALL of the recent immigrants... Then you're talking about thousands of different cultures
@@tecumseh4095 we have more than 4 distinct cultures in my hometown of about 30,000 people.
I'm pretty sure that America is more diverse than Switzerland. But people often underestimate the diversity of Switzerland because of its small size. Switzerland does not have just 4 cultures, each valley is different. I would claim we are more diverse than Russia. But we are not more diverse than America.
you are totally correct
30:28 As a Swiss person I have to disagree. People rarely see military service as a "duty" and more as a strenuous chore that takes you away from your private life (studies, job responsibilities, family). That's the main flaw of the army; conscripts are not motivated to do anything and hate every second that's taken away from their civilian life.
I dont normally comment on these videos. I did enjoy it, untill the end. There are those of us who own firearms that are still very similar to the Swiss culture. We practice in a safe diciplined manner. We have community and mutual respect for one another. I am sorry your experience differs.
we used to have the DCM ( Dept. Of Civilian Marksmanship) This dept would provide FREE ammo and rifles to Us citizens, I know this because my Dad was a DCM instructor and had pallets of ammo , targets and Winchester 52's sent to our house in the 1980's. Our country needs to start doing this again to teach gun safety.
Today, the DCM is known as the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP).
@CMPInstructor Unfortunately, they charge for everything.
@@kjh1227I stared competing back in the DCM era. One still had to pay match fees to local clubs; and I did send a check to buy my DCM M-1 Garand along with the paperwork. The prices have inflated but CMP does the same today.
As a 72-year-old that has been a law-abiding gun owner for 62 years. Yes, I got my first rifle on my tenth birthday. The only time that I did not live in this country was during my time in the Army. Fortunate for me I didn't have to serve in Veit Nam, I was stationed overseas in Hanau, Germany. I have made it thru my entire life so far without killing a single person or any animals. I have killed animals with vehicles, never a gun. I enjoy shooting, but I am not an avid shooter. Most of what I have are for fun, recreation and security. I do own an AR-15, never really thought about buying one until some stupid individual in the government (Obama) said that I should not be allowed to own an AR-15. In 1971 I was drafted into the military and was given an M-16 Army rifle, trained to kill with it or to die with it, if needs be but now, I should NOT BE ALLOWED. Now I have large amounts of government individuals telling me I can't and shouldn't be allowed to own any guns. JOHNNY HARRIS (who admitted on video that he has a therapist problem because he has voices in his head) is a lying POS about this video and what it means to own a gun in America. I drove 18 wheelers for 10 years across America, and because the government CANNOT PROTECT their citizens from crime, it was left up to me to protect myself. 5 times in a 10-year period I had to use a weapon to PROTECT myself. The results were as follows: 0 times I was assaulted, 0 times I was robbed, 0 times I was beaten, 0 times I was stabbed with a knife. Every time I had a weapon, and every time the assailants turned and left, leaving me safe and sound. Nobody died and nobody went to jail. Was that because I was saved by the police, our government or God? NO, it was because I was armed and not afraid to defend myself. JOHNNY HARRIS, if you want to do some good videos, how about you go and expose the crime and corruption going on in our government, THAT IS, IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO BAD MOUTH THE GOVERNMENT LIKE YOU HAVE TO BAD MOUTH THIS COUNTRY. Until then, you are just another RUclipsr talking shit to make MONEY. Total bullshit.
bad mouth Switzerland at what timestamp?
You are right in what you said
Thank you for your service. :D
Hey buddy, ever hear of paragraphs? and what the fuck is "Veit Nam"?
I agree with everything you stated 100% !
It is also important that the bigges percentage of people in switzerland who have a gun are trained somders who had a lot of safty training.
Very good video
Much love from bern.
My grandfather and father belonged to shooting clubs. When we were little we used to go on drives and go watch competitions and go shooting. We always knew where the guns were, but never touched them unless with dad. It just wasn’t a big deal, my grandfather was retired army and he always had guns, knives, swords, even old emptied out hand grenades on his walls. He always had a new gun, they were just fun and collectible for him.
I am a part of a gun community that is all about training & safety. It’s a culture very much like what you depicted from Switzerland. It does exist here, but much like in Switzerland it’s quiet.
Agreed, it is unfortunate that more positive media visibility is not afforded to safety and education conscious communities here in the U.S.. People, they do exist.
That's because half the Swiss population aren't actively lobbying, and attempting to take the guns from the other half of the population. This same culture that Mr Harris admires ABSOLUTELY exists right here in the once United States. I've been a part of it for most of my life. You're just told that it doesn't and can't happen in heavy rotation by the anti gun media and populace. And he may be on board with blaming the NRA for , whatever,...but they are one of the only organizations that's actively worked to keep your Right to bear arms. while they have many faults as all organization do,... this Life member thanks God for them. @@monstafloppa871
@@monstafloppa871it just sucks that they get drowned out by the screaming ultra-right…my god just look at all the toxic comments here that focus on talking trash to someone who gave facts. I don’t think most commentators even watched what this guy made or actually listened to what he said.
Instead of going to Switzerland, he should have done his research in his own country instead. It is a shame that people here in the United States take the word of the media instead of doing their own research.
My grandfather was a former Navy shooting instructor,, so I grew up know how to handle firearms from the age of 5.
Most U.S. high schools that were built early in the last century had ROTC programs that taught the proper use of weapons. My high school had an armory and a shooting range in the basement. We tried to revive the shooting sports in our school and had the Marines come in to teach those that had not had experience with rifles. We even had a shooting competition (I scored the highest). They tried to recruit me for sniper school! Even though we had a teacher as a sponsor, the school decided to shut the shooting range down and they turned it into a study hall. It was obviously too dangerous and too high of liability to teach proper respect and proper handling of weapons to young men who were just a couple of years away from being old enough to fight for our country.
They didn't if offended their ego.@@scottyagreen
Beyond the fact that what you traveled to Switzerland to find happens at gun ranges in every state here in the US, what you really proved is that when things like guns and alcohol are educated about from a young age, the taboo disappears and the shock and awe value is removed.
But does the US citizen have duties like the Swiss citizen?
@@zeki1 yes
@@elijahedwards6571 I'm curious... which duties the US citizen are required to own guns in the US?
@@zeki1 I guess just background checks and permits... Technically it is our duty to be in a militia, but no one enforces that. So, I guess we don't have duties like the Swiss :/
That's a great idea. Why don't we have this as a requirement in the USA?
Not only is this good training, but it teaches discipline, respect for your country and unity. The people who abuse guns have none of those values.
I enjoy reading the comment sections in many of the u tube videos that are available. Because many well informed people speak their mind, and these comments show another side of the story. A story similar to the Swiss, but in rural America, not in high crime urban areas. Thanks for the respectful comments to Mr. Harris, he needs to visit the other 1/2 of America.
The difference I see is that the Swiss government is not trying to destroy the identity of the country, community, and family but instead embrace it and their traditions as Swiss. The government represents the people therefor they don’t have a mistrust and don’t feel the need to defend themselves.
I think they are probably having a point of view shift. Gang violence and gun-related homicides have been rising for the last few years.
The whole purpose for that "tradition" is that Swiss men are prepared for their military service.
Don't be mistaken. RIGHT NOW IT IS
take a look at the swiss neighbour country germany and then u know why they love their guns...
germans are normally not allowed to have guns.. even knifes are forbidden. But strangely since 2014 crime rates go up into the sky...
especially gang r*p*s and knife k*llin*s ... our nice new guests really give a damn about any laws.
and without weapons, germans are mostly helpless against the invaders.
@@user-zq5zm5ff3m And what ethnicity and culture are the Swiss? I did not see tons of Africans, Latinos, Arabs, etc. in this video. Maybe because Switzerland tries to keep out as many outsiders as possible at least those not compatible or capable of creating a European First World society.
The problem in the U.S. is people are losing the respect for life. It isn't a problem with guns, it is a problem with people.
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Kinda like how 50 years ago gun were WAY easier to obtain, yet there was far less gun violence. What changed? The guns or the people...
Morals were removed. There is no morality filter in anyone's head. It is all base emotions running off instantaneous feelings in the immediate moment.
Not necessarily. Other than the last couple years during Covid gun homicides and other crimes have decreased almost every year and in total since the 80s. That’s with population increasing and number of guns in the country increasing as well.
Ah, but media coverage and slant make violence more obvious and talked about.@@magillicutyify
We are different because their government does not try to divide the people by racial, economic, and political lines. Our government, helped by very rich people, divides our nation using racial, economic, and political pressures, which makes our intention of enjoying the guns for sport and, in the case of defending the nation soberness, as a militia, very difficult to maintain without strong arguments, and sometimes violence. Tell me if Switzerland lets criminals walk out of the courts, and the Law-abiding citizens go to jail or their lives destroyed because they are of the opposite political party?
If you go to the right places in America, you'll find the exact same wholesome environment.
I have taken 3 liberal Senior citizen women out to my range on my farm that had never held a gun in their lives. I taught them some safety and then how to shoot a target. The noise and recoil scared them but once they relaxed and started hitting the target they had a great time. They will probably never shoot again but they came away with a much better understanding of guns and gun safety.
Don't know if it is possible for you but beginners in my experience do great with suppressed .22 rifles and pistols.
This should be a goal of every shooter: introduce non-shooters to firearms. Ear protection (plugs plus over-the-ear) are helpful, also starting with .22 so recoil and blow back does not shock them (my first pistol experience was a .357 Mag, not recommended as a "first".) People better understand guns when they have been shooting and had proper instruction, and that removes fear of the unknown that abounds from the Democrats intent on disarming everyone; because that's worked so well in Germany, China, Cuba, etc. to assure the people were "safe". Safe for the government to subjugate.
Did this... we shot a few handguns and an AR at 10 yards. Handgun barely hit silhouette, AR hit center mass with 3-4inches. ... I said which would you rather have? Gun debate over.
I'm an old guy and I grew up shooting with my family. Guns were not political. The issue has been exploited on both sides and a huge, stubborn divide has been created. I still am a gun owner and love to shoot but I hate the politics. In fact, I lean left of center but am also a 2A advocate. Somehow we need to come together and find some common ground.
Still! If you have not served or received official training in a similar way you should NEVER be allowed to handle a firearm.
Wait, it is apparent that Mr. Harris has never been to a shooting range or club here in the U.S. because he would find that American gun culture is very similar to the Swiss, with an emphasis on safety, sport, camaraderie, community and family. The difference; we are a VOLUNTARY militia with a constitutional right, and duty, to protect our American liberties from tyranny, including our own government. Switzerland is a COMPULSORY militia, enforced by the government. Doesn’t sound quite as warm and fuzzy now, does it?
US gun culture doesn't seem even remotely so well behaved as the Swiss gun culture.
If that's true, then why does the US has a lot more gun deaths than Switzerland?
@@user-zq5zm5ff3m, you're saying you haven't been to a well-managed Firearms facility. There are plenty. And, the culture around them, is quite different than what you might think.
Eh, all the Americans I’ve met that own guns treat them like toys. Now they themselves may not SAY that, but that’s very much what their actions show. American gun culture is based on fear and paranoia that rights will be taken away, yet when rights actually ARE taken away (Roe v. Wade, for instance) all those that proclaim they’d give their lives to protect the sanctity of individual choice are mysteriously quiet. I have zero respect for American gun culture, because 95% of those that take part in it only care about their own freedoms, not the concept as a whole. At least with this whole Swiss thing they aren’t foaming at the mouth like most gun owning Americans are. The lack of mass shootings is pretty telling too
@user-zq5zm5ff3m that's because a lot of the gun culture is gang culture where they could give 2 shyts about safety and law. And the left continues to look the other way. Creating laws they won't enforce on criminals doesn't help.
I'm a Canadian who hated guns while living in the states. But you've missed stuff from the American perspective. There are several gun cultures in the states. Generally speaking, those who like and collect guns are those that are more likely to have joined the military and exhibit the duty culture you mention. This culture can go extreme with the self-defense and care about the right more than using it responsibly. But they account for a small percentage of murders. The murders are more from the gang culture that doesn't care about rights, duty or responsibility. I don't this is as prevalent in Switzerland. So how do we go about changing or getting rid of this cultural aspect?
When considering the Founding Fathers intentions for the 2nd amendment I would take a look at the Declaration Of Independence when speaking on protecting the rights of the people -
"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,
and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its
powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness... "
The intention was not to protect the Government, but for the people to protect themselves, not only from foreign oppression and invasion, but from an out of control Government that no longer served the will of the people. "Shall not be infringed" is a strong statement.
I got into about minute 3 and just want to know why you only show the bad part of the gun community in the USA? Hey for Switzerland you show a gun shop and one event. But for USA you show bad head lines. Why not go to a community range in the USA? You’ll find it’s very similar. Still an interesting documentary. Growing up around guns and being taught actual safety. That’s the difference. In America sadly most of that is gone while in Switzerland it’s mandatory. Which I love.
He seems like a super biased liberal.
usa should have stayed like switzerland instead of fighting crazy wars in the whole world all the time. thanks for beating hitler though
I don’t think you are comprehending. Swiss gun culture is mostly restricted to gun ranges, whereas guns in America are absolutely everywhere. You have people just allowed to walk down the street with loaded weapons.
Damn dude. After watching this and seeing a fundamental misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the 2nd amendment and gun owners in the US, I have to rethink your videos I've seen
he totally exposed himself to be a sneak lol, epic failed
I got the same vibe on the other videos of his that I have unfortunately watched...
I thought the same thing. Like if he is willing to misinterpret this so badly, what else has he been feeding us that is utter bull crap?
Thank goodness we have people like Colion Nori that can combat Johnnys lopsided view.
@@Johnny-jr2lq - RIGHT ON!
*People who fear guns never had to face someone evil and stronger than them.*
I was brought up in Africa. I was a city kid, but dad was not a city kid. He was brought up hunting and he taught us gun safety and hunting ethics just as he had been taught by his father. When my dad was a boy and he went out hunting, my grandfather gave him two rounds. He was expected to return with game for the pot and one round. The second round was to correct a mistake--a poor shot.
My dad taught us that if we killed anything, bird, mamal or fish--we had to clean it and cook it and eat it. (This was a bit of a chore when we returned with twenty small fish with tough leathery skin that had to be individually skinned--but we did not question this).
I have lived in the State of Maine for forty years now. I've talked to young Mainers who were brought up with the same ethics.
But something has gone wrong.
In deer season you often hear the rat-a -tat-tat of someone shooting a semi-auto at a running deer. Once, someone who did that would be shamed by his family and everyone he knew.
A couple of weeks ago I stopped at a whim by a small gunshop on the highway that had a sign that said 'Sporting Firearms'. It appeared to be a Mom and Pop operation. There were no handguns or imitation assault rifles on display. I listened in on a fascinating conversation between the woman behind the counter and a customer. They were both highly knowledgeable about hunting rifles of all sorts. It was a nice friendly informative chat. I liked that store. It had a good feel.
Later that day I drove by another, very different gunshop that had a depiction of an semi auto pistol on the sign. I dont remember the name if the store--other than that it made it clear that it was the antithesis of the previous gunshop. It was not primarily about traditional Maine hunting culture.
A few years ago, I frequented a local range where I did indoor archery. (I was making by own bows back then. Replicas of Native American bows and Neolithic European bows). They had a huge selection of used firearms, some fascinating antiques. They did firearm safety training and hunter education. They had a youth .22 league. There was a kitchen making hamburgers and hotdogs. They had a rifle range and a truly wonderful 3d archery course that was constantly changed and traditional archery meets. The owner was very busy in hunting season, so his mother took his son out hunting on the first day of deer season. A place with a good friendly atmosphere and part of true Maine sporting culture
That range was sold. The atmosphere changed. There were some pretty sketchy characters there. I saw someone come in to pick up a sawn-off pump shotgun ina shoulder holster. I've seen these sold a couple of times. You can get legal permission for this. This is not right. Anyone who wants such a thing has violent fantasies. He may never act on them. But he has them.
Something is going wrong with American gun culture.
I'm a artist and paint outdoors from life. Once I and a woman friend when to paint at a location that had old locomotives and train cars. There were people hanging around carrying assault style rifles. One guy was creeping around corners and hiding behind the rolling stock. He looked to be mentally unbalanced. We were accosted by a man with serious anger management issues. He claimed to be the commandant of 'The Maine Militia'. After a bit of a rant about lesbian liberals trying to take away his rights, he calmed down somewhat. We left.
This is not good. That this sort of thing should be happening in a sensible, friendly, rural State like Maine is very disturbing.
American gun culture is broken and getting worse. There was a couple in the area who patrolled their property every evening, dressed in camo and carrying AR15's. Maybe they still are.
There are still a majority of sensible, safe, respectful gun owners here. But the other aspect is growing.
We had a mass shooting recently. No-one thought it could happen here.
I don't know how this trend can be reversed.
Oh dear, I had a feeling something was wrong about this video but didn’t quite understand the details. People should go watch Colion Noir’s debunking after watching this, he clearly explains why this is all misleading 😐
Agreed
Agreed, this entire video is completely inaccurate. It’s a shame that people will still believe it.
The gun communities in Switzerland look exactly like every gun community I’ve seen in America. I think everything he knows about guns in America is what he watches on TV in the media. Did he speak to anyone at shooting ranges in America?
No he is just basing his opinion of what he has heard in left leaning media outlets mixed with (maybe) a few experiences he has had. It hardly speaks for the majority of american gun culture and really is just a way to take a dig at the second amendment.
No, absolutely not. He’s used his extremely limited experience with firearms as the basis for what he believes all guns in America are, and media depictions of guns in America hasn’t helped teach him what most gun-owning Americans are like. Dude investigated a whole half of the story for this video, and acts like he’s an expert.
Agreed. He looked deep into Switzerland but knows nothing about US gun ownership.
Imagine how great and patriotic America would be if RUclipsrs would put this kind of effort into American topics. Instead everyone just wants to shit on it. So many Americans live here act like it’s this terrible place then travel to other countries and say how wonderful their traditions are..it’s like hating your parents because you grew up with them and they made you do chores but all your friends are like “dude you have awesome parents, I wish they were mine” and you just don’t get it.
Of course not, because allowing them to speak would debunk his entire agenda.
Growing up as the son of a gunsmith in a rural area and using firearms since early childhood brings a very different perspective than what people typically think of about Americas. In my community firearms were for competition and hunting. Firearms were tools and as a child the idea that anyone other than soldiers, police or criminals would use a firearm for anything else was unthinkable. In contrast I think many Americans just see them as something to use against other people if needed and a power struggle between themselves and their government. Rather than trying to make them increasingly taboo and restricted it would make more sense to teach basic information on firearm types, calibers, safe handling and proper storage and use so that they are seen as something other than implements of human death.
There are ways to improve American culture around guns, and I think those things were pointed out in the video -- Competition, Camraderie, and Tradition. How? By investing in the gun clubs in the US. By investing in marksmanship competitions. And, by investing in gun safety training. If the US government was investing in these things, in a similar way that the Swiss government was, the culture in the US would shift. The perception would shift.
What laws should be enacted? Budgets should include allocations for instruction on firearms safety. When I was 12, I had gun safety training. As part of that, students brought their rifle to school in the evening for after-school training on the safe handling of firearms. With the right comes duty and responsibility, and in order to understand the rights, duties, and responsibilities associated with the 2nd amendment, there should be funding earmarked for training and education.
Bring back the "duty" part of the 2nd amendment. The Right part cannot be eliminated, nor should it. But, if the duty part receives greater emphasis, then it will provide greater direction to the culture in the US.
Right now, many in the US are a bit lost, and a lot of that has to do with tradition and duty. By reemphasizing those principles, the US will have a much safer society. The banning of semi-auto rifles is not needed -- that we can see from the Swiss. There are plenty of Americans who already participate in gun clubs throughout the US, but many are not aware of these clubs, how they work, or how rewarding it can be to get involved. A number of gun stores have ranges, but that's not the same as being parto of a gun club -- paying for instruction at a gun store is not the same as being mentored and trained by someone who is a fellow club member. Clubs provide a means to build community and create lasting friendships in a way that gun stores and for-profit gun ranges cannot.