Why US schools are at the center of trans rights
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- A civil rights battle with transgender kids caught in the middle.
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In recent years, state legislatures in the US have introduced hundreds of bills targeting the rights of LGBTQ Americans. Many of those laws are focused in particular on the rights of transgender school children in public schools: what types of bathrooms they can use, whether their pronouns will be used, and whether they can participate in school sports. These laws are increasingly common in Republican-controlled states. Also, they may be violations of federal law.
This puts public schools in these states in a strange position: do they follow state laws that, under the Biden administration, could open them up to a federal civil rights investigation? Or do they ignore state law, and risk the state cutting their funding? Amid all that uncertainty, those who suffer most are the trans children caught up in the fight.
This video focuses on how that battle is playing out in Tennessee, the state that has introduced more anti-LGBTQ laws in 2022 than almost any other state. We looked at two of the laws that target transgender public school kids: one about bathrooms and one about participation in school sports. Those two issues have very different legal contexts, which you can read more about in the links below.
For more on the legal background of trans and nonbinary rights and bathrooms, you can read about the case of Gavin Grimm:
www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/us...
For more on transgender athletes and school sports, you can read about how Title IX will play a role:
apnews.com/article/title-ix-t...
A note about the data on bullying and school attendance that compares trans, nonbinary, and cisgender students: the sample size of this study is low, covering 14 states that included a question about gender identity, and it’s difficult to ascertain how many transgender students were surveyed in it:
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/s...
However, surveys by the Trevor Project point to similar findings on bullying and mental health:
www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-c...
Here is more data on mental health and transgender students in US schools:
www.brookings.edu/blog/brown-...
EdWeek has a thorough breakdown of what’s behind the push to legislate school policies, and how anti-LGBTQ laws are used as a political strategy by Republicans:
www.edweek.org/leadership/wha...
For more on the implications for the Nashville school board’s decision to defy Tennessee law:
wpln.org/post/tennessee-will-...
Chapters
State law vs. federal law: 00:00
Tennessee’s anti-trans laws: 2:02
Who controls public schools?: 4:22
Legal limbo: 6:21
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@@horaciolyon judging by this one theyve spent $12.41 on production and research.
Please atleast be neutral when reporting present both sides with FACTS NOT FEELINGS. I'm very disappointed and losing trust in you vox. 😞
@@atulsodhi8985 What are you talking about?? Bot🙄🙄
@@atulsodhi8985 do you want "facts" or do you want "both sides" because one side has to be wrong and I feel like you're just upset that it's your side at the moment.
1:35 I know that this isn't what the video is about, but the fact that the amount of attempted suicides is at 10 % even if you remove trans/non-binary kids from the equation is messed up. To me it suggests that there's a bigger issue, elimination of which would send both of those numbers down.
social media is often mentioned as the problem here, honestly seems quite probable to me
@@jinjunliu2401 Yep.
A combination of social media and an increasingly difficult school system (whose results do not reflect the amount of work the students are forced to do) is making the US one of the hardest places for students.
Well of course, or the percentage of adults on anti-depressants in the U.S.
No recent wars, more privileged people, etc is the main problem
Ah, the US, as usual
@E
As usual?
degeneracy
HOW ABOUT both parties grow TF up & put security or better cameras etc for Children from Mass Shooters cause that seems pretty normal every 3 Months
can't spell usual without US
@Jasi Duy Nguyễn
Democrat and Republicans are not aspects of a federal system, they are political parties.
kids are caught up between adults' crossfires. To be honest by making this more serious and reachable to more audience the more the problem it is to solve
Are you trying to say that talking more about these issues makes it harder to solve them? How? Or did I misunderstand your comment?
A lot of school issues are talked about but the one thing people of all political views can agree on is schools are failing. Schools are failing to protect kids from bullying and failing to inspirre them and give them purpose, as a highschool student, whose been bullied I know how hard those situations can be on a student, when you combine that with constant streams of negative news and current events, things can seem hopeless, especially when schools are overpacked and underfunded. This means the few teachers who are genuinely still passionate and trying their best to help kids learn and grow are overworked and are bound to the curriculum which isn't inspiring and teaching kids or helping them push their boundaries. Really there is an issue with the entire school system which needs a complete systematic overhaul. This will likely never happen because politicians and political activists (now everyone and their mom) are too busy, pointing fingers and arguing about which bathrooms 2% of students use for them to take a second to address and try to solve any of the huge issues that face every child in the nation enrolled in public school. I mean this is the big problem every one is talking about when it only accounts for 0.004% of total attempted suicides. The sad thing is that politicians on both sides use arguments like these to shift blame and claim moral high ground, just to avoid the responsability to take action, and work together to actually solve problems, and it works. (I'm not saying these issues don't matter but they shouldn't be the priority especally because they're just specific examples of a greater issue not being seen by adults)
@@ebelborna I’m a little late, but I think they’re referring to the fact that they’re dragging kids into their mess. I don’t like how kids are now forced to pick a side, just let them be kids.
@@The_Radical_Car_Guy the attempted su***** rate is 56% right now. LOL
@@The_Radical_Car_GuyThey’re also failing to teach truth and virtue.
It’s wild that these laws are very new and the amplified hate too. One day your just living your life and then you suddenly become a wedge issue.
You're*
Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but these and laws and the public backlash against transgenderism happened in response to ballooning trans expression in society. It wasn't dug up by conservatives to find a scapegoat.
@@HiAdrian
A little bit of both. The GOP have found that they can get elected on this, and that's the main reason.
These anti-transgender youth sports laws? They usually seem to affect less than ten children, per state. In Utah, and Ohio, IIRC, it was one child per state. So, we're not talking some enormous threat, there.
@@grmpEqweer "The GOP have found that they can get elected on this" is a good thing. They are just representing the people who vote for them.
Also, the scale of the threat isn't decided by how few trans children are affected. The scale of the threat is how many teachers are expressing their own personal political views in classrooms to young children. You are totally misrepresenting the issue to downplay it's significance to our culture.
@@grmpEqweer Fair enough, it certainly has become a convenient topic to utilize by conservative politicians.
How is it legal for the state government to restrict funding based on a school district’s decision to assign bathrooms? Funding should ONLY be allocated based on the population of a school and/or the students needs.
Because republican state governments have become more and more power hungry in recent years and have been trampling over local governments. This funding allocation trick is a common tactic they use to get what they want. For example in Florida, almost every education decision is controlled by the state and local governments have almost no control.
If a school decides to discriminate against its students, then they shouldn't get funding.
Because in the united states the state law is king.
@@RaNdOmkiid100 100% agreed. They should cut funding to all the school boards who adopted this policy!
Biden is doing EXACTLY that.
America has developed and has been developing and increasingly extreme us vs them mentality, and the potential consequences of that, scare me. Please I encourage you, whatever your opinions might be, to just proceed calmly and treat others with kindness.
This is so true and it’s such a problem that both sides are facilitating it’s horrible and not what we should be.
I will treat them kindly when they leave my children alone
This is what i say
Upvote me because I say nice = good
I mean us vs them is a attitude that is almost apart of the US, parties themselves create that, and then of course our hyper tribalistic society.
Why don’t they take into account what the children actually going to these schools think? The only ones complaining about these issues are the ones who aren’t going through it! Newsflash, American kids and teens are becoming more accepting and caring than all previous generations! Kids aren’t coming home from school and complaining about a boy with nail polish, it’s the adults doing it and painting cruel pictures of them to their children! The more people discriminate, the more push back and in your face the opposite side is going to become!
I would say the parents are going through it too. Concerned about their children.
Students don't take surveys seriously, like at all. American high school students are already bombarded with plenty of stressful assignments and deadlines to meet. I graduated a few months ago and even the most thoughtful and wise students clearly rushed the survey, answering randomly, because it just didn't pertain to them and they had assignments they had to get done. Students are educated, however a lot of them really just don't care because it doesn't affect them. Also, kids don't come home and complain to their parents anymore, they come home and complain to their friends at school on social media, which tends to perpetuate more of a hostile environment even out of school.
That's a good point. If the school kids themselves don't care, then their (adult) environment shouldn't make such a ruckus, especially if it eats community resources that could be used for other things.
@@HiAdrian I should rephrase that, I'm not sure it's that they all don't care, (don't get me wrong, there are definitely some students who truly do not care) I think a lot of them understand what the ruckus is, however it is not nearly as high on their priority list compared to other things they might be dealing with at home, school, or even work. A lot of kids just want to graduate and get on with life.
@Grandpa Assembly idk what school YOU go to, but none around here are like that.
Leave our kids alone
i, should leave myself alone?
The kids are the subject of the video genius
@Ty Bussy Kids are subject of my comment genius
@@kreuner11Fellow teenagers, stop believing that you need to be trans. In fact, you need to be against it, because it's harmful to society.
Bullseye
Shootings and trans rights. Truly a melting pot of culture these schools are.
Somehow, these gun 'enthusiasts' think their firearms will stop a tyrannical governments tanks and jets
@Zaydan Naufal
School shootings aren't really the problem.
@@user-op8fg3ny3j But.. but how about assault weapons? so we can defend ourselves from the government KKonaW
@@geralt6530 I don't think RPG's and Javelins are protected under the second amendment.
Even the NRA has had to admit the limits of that right.
@@InCognito-vx8gi
What is that suppose to mean?
Vox never misses an opportunity to be debunked by a cartoon
lol, i just watched freedom toons,🤣
just watched it lol
Hahaha I just watched that too.
Yep
Yeah
in my school, if you tell a teacher your preferred name or pronouns, or even join A PRIDE CLUB. they tell your parents immediately. they don't do this with other clubs, just the pride one
Good
God that’s awful
@@emeraldchan7770 -🤓
@@Lazybuttery a yes, home of the free...
Could you imagine?
"We heard word that your child is attempting to join. . . the math appreciation club."
"NO, not our Timmy, we would never raise him like that!"
"Unfortunately, the evidence points to your little boy being on the philomath spectum, and, since I know you personally, I thought you should know about this, and how it could affect his future, and the future of his classmates."
"Don't worry, he will be fixed by tomorrow, I swear."
Whatever happened to just teaching kids how to treat 1 another equally rather than telling them exactly how they should treat each type of individual
you know you live in a 1st world country with no real problem when your only problem is wich "pronouns" to use
Thankfully kids are a lot smarter than most ignorant adults when it comes to the LGBTQ+ Community, hateful, spiteful people should stand aside and stop interfering.
"Whatever happened to just teaching kids how to treat 1 another equally" Well that was never happening, so I don't know ?
@@RafaelCabreraAzrael actually, we meet almost all the criteria of a third world country BECAUSE of how many rights are being taken away, especially from lgbtq. So no. Other countries do not have to deal with this.
@@d.h.4778 The criteria for being a third world nation is not alligning with either the US or Soviet Union during the Cold War, and the US definitely alligned with the US.
my school harassed trans students and had protests against lgbtq+ rights disrupting classes for days. I've personally have been harassed and there was even someone calling themselves a trans predator going into bathrooms and checking over stalls to see if "you're trans or not" and even though it was brought to the attention of the higher ups nothing was done. property was stolen and torn but it was ignored. death threats were common and many felt unsafe. i dont care if you dont agree with my existence but you never have the right to harass someone because of it.
chad school 👀
@@jawad.spam_ deadass
@@jawad.spam_ I too love tormenting people who did nothing to deserve this.
That’s awful hope you are ok and safe
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The best thing we could do is ask what students of schools want, not what some random board that none of us will ever hear about thinks. I’m sick of my education being directed by some far off entity with little to no direct interaction with us as a whole. I’m fed up with the schools acting like they own the students and not listening to their ideas, beliefs, aspirations, and dreams. The only power we get is student council, or should I call it “student party planner”. We have no choice of what we get to do, no ability to direct our future, and no influence in our own politics. So here’s what I’ve to say: “NO EDUCATION WITHOUT REFORMATION”.
A lot of school issues are talked about but the one thing people of all political views can agree on is schools are failing. Schools are failing to protect kids from bullying and failing to inspirre them and give them purpose, as a highschool student, whose been bullied I know how hard those situations can be on a student, when you combine that with constant streams of negative news and current events, things can seem hopeless, especially when schools are overpacked and underfunded. This means the few teachers who are genuinely still passionate and trying their best to help kids learn and grow are overworked and are bound to the curriculum which isn't inspiring and teaching kids or helping them push their boundaries. Really there is an issue with the entire school system which needs a complete systematic overhaul. This will likely never happen because politicians and political activists (now everyone and their mom) are too busy, pointing fingers and arguing about which bathrooms 2% of students use for them to take a second to address and try to solve any of the huge issues that face every child in the nation enrolled in public school. I mean this is the big problem every one is talking about when it only accounts for 0.004% of total attempted suicides. The sad thing is that politicians on both sides use arguments like these to shift blame and claim moral high ground, just to avoid the responsability to take action, and work together to actually solve problems, and it works. (I'm not saying these issues don't matter but they shouldn't be the priority especally because they're just specific examples of a greater issue not being seen by adults)
Finding interest is hard to do so I agree. however what if your belief and aspiration place fails and you end up in the same place again anyway?
especially because several children brain would rot to sport again and again. I think a mix of both could be good.
You can’t ask kids without the influence of their parents
@@Lemony123 Yeah, I agree. It's kinda needing a mix, but less state control, more funding and flexibility in my opinion. :D
@@moneppeli I mean giving student council and the school as a whole power instead of some state regulators. :D
Imagine being an adult in power and spending your day coming up with laws to specifically ENSURE that children are being ostracized and bullied.
imagine having a fundamental misconception of the nuances of democracy and oversimplifying the process of legislation to that extent
Yea, laws to protect children from medical procedures that can have life-lasting side effects. Once they're 18, they have the equal rights of any other person.
It's not that they don't _know_ they're causing harm, it's that they simply don't _care._ However, it usually only takes one family member to be discriminated against to make them suddenly experience something rarely encountered by a politician: empathy.
@Norepublicants Transition healthcare is the only care scientifically proven to improve dysphoria. The kind of "care" that you're proposing is scientifically proven to cause trauma
*making sure people still listen to basic science*
Groomers work in schools, who would've thought.
What groomers?
@@coconutdogg Adults who manipulate kids in yk bad ways
LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE
Vox should do a series of videos about public education.
The fact that the US funds schools mainly through property taxes is nothing short of barbaric.
I think more people should know where this came from and if there's any chance for change.
"The fact that the US funds schools mainly through property taxes is nothing short of barbaric" i have no idea what does this mean, can you please care to explain?
@@zumabbar It basically means that kids from rich families get to go to well funded schools, and kids from poor neighborhoods go to neglected schools. It's a terrible cycle.
Public education needs to be the great equalizer, but in the US it only perpetuates class disparity.
And like many things in American society, affluent homeowners have an incredibly outsized influence over how things are done and to make sure they don't change (lest property value is lost).
I first became aware of this issue by listening to Anand Giridharadas, whose talks in general I highly recommend.
@@KaritKtana thanks
It's not mainly through property taxes anymore though, that used to be the case. (The video also uses the past tense btw)
@@KaritKtana It’s like this in almost every country ?
Why can’t the US government just let people live peacefully….
Because peace isn't a priority to everyone, as obvious as it seems to be a priority to some people. The battle comes from different people's priorities.
You mean conservatives….
Because there’s no money to be made with that.
@@ShawnLH88 it’s not just conservatives, the whole structure of the current institutions in the US is framed to exploit anyone who isn’t rich or a white man or both
Because it’s greedy and loves money and power. Who doesn’t?
Hey get better sources next time!!! Wouldn't want to get outclassed by a cartoon!
Mega oof moment for Vox, trying to defend an untenable position, both morally, logically and societally untenable
The Debunkers sent me here
They deserve to be investigated. No kid deserves to be harassed like that, especially for just trying to use the bathroom. The chanting and harassment was more than definitely discriminatory. How are these things not investigated as hate crimes? Because it's socially acceptable to harass the trans person? We must pass the Equality Act.
kids will bully you for anything, also hurting feelings is not a hate crime
There apready is equality
People that don’t support LGBTQ has my respect
Socially? People get harassed all the time and you are just focusing on them?
@@asifishan1221 That's the great thing about context. We're on a video specific to trans youth, of course that's the focus. It's common sense that a lot of people experience harrassment, everyone is prone to that. That's why there are spaces for these kind of conversations. However, saying 'people get harrassed all the time" as a means to argue that trans youth's experiences are less than is just ignorant. Just because it happens doesn't mean it should, that's why it's important to tackle these issues so we can get to a point where no one is harrassed.
Parents shouldn't need to become experts in civil rights law just to support and affirm their child.
i don't think it is a smart choice to let a kid decide their rights at young age
@@johnluis821 🤦🏻♀️
@@johnluis821 lol too bad. kids have rights because they are human, not because a government or parent “gave” their rights to them. try again!
@@oscaraltman8122 Then why kids can't vote.
@@alaint Well frankly maybe Schools would be better, safer and more inclusive if school board members DID have to worry about the kid's votes.
It’s weird how our political leaders are so focused on stripping away basic human rights in the “land of the free” 😪
Tru
When was anything different. This country was built in slavery 😂
@@triple_gem_shining Well almost every country were build on some kind of slavery so...
@@Marman804 well that's what happens when you don't know history and try to be smarty pants. 🤣
@@Marman804 there is no point in your comment.
As you can see, America is a "free country"
I'm so proud of these mothers for fighting for their children...and wishing that they didn't have to.
Groomer
@@gdub8847 ?
@Bulletproof Lad A day in the Life
@@gdub8847 I encourage you to empathize with the people who are suffering as a result of our anti-trans policies. This is a battle parents of trans people wish they didn't have to fight and its sad they are getting so much blowback from simply wanting their kids to feel accepted in society
🤣🤣🤣🤣 you nailed it Sarah 👏
Bruh America is something else
I'm a lot less comfortable with the government in our kids' bathrooms than, like, the 2 or so trans kids in a given school.
Well I'd br a lot more concerned if I had a 14 year old daughter who had to share the bathroom with some 17-18 year old dude
@@diegode415 I agree, I would also be concerned if my trans daughter had to share a bathroom with a guy. (I don't have one, but I would be concerned if I did)
No need to be concerned, as most guys don't have a problem with transwomen or 'transdaughters' carrying on using the men's bathroom they've always been used to because they know they're biological men. The only concern lies solely in the one Diego raised.
@@darrenbradleytwin so you don’t think If someone like you has a kid and someone else has a trans kid you don’t think your son with be a bully ?
@@yhaswalker9151 Please translate into something literate.
If it's wrong, the USA will do it.
that's why men can compete in women sports
@@MrBruh-yb9qi that's why school shootings happen
@@MrBruh-yb9qi I don't think that's allowed? Women compete in women's sports... Could you further ellaborate?
@@strangejmaster men disguised as women are being allowed to compete in women sports
@@MrBruh-yb9qi yes, they are called transgender women, and you are part of the reason their lives are so difficult.
Im a dominican and the trans here aren't common
You’re lucky in that sense!
The laws or trans people?
We need to make decisions based on science not feelings.
Feelings are science
@@cabinfever5730 would u choose a society where you put feelings over science thus creating another dark age or a society where you chose science over feelings where society could thrive more
@@niky2574 Before I can answer your question you need to work on your english, I have absolutely no clue what you just said. Something about society and emotions and science.
@@cabinfever5730 sorry I missed typed a word
@@niky2574 it still doesn't make any sense
8:50 onwards, while just a small addendum right at the end, actually almost had me in tears. By God, I wish to be that kind of parent to my kid.
your not being a good parent for lying to your kid and affirming his/her delusions and confusions!, quite the opposite actually!, you'd be a terrible parent!
@@isakayyik966 Good thing not everyone on Earth is religious then 🙄
@@XY-Man Just wanted to remind anyone reading this comment that this ideology is a cancerous tumor on society and that this is precisely how you sow resentment in your children. This anonymous person exemplifies that very resentment, projecting their own insecurities with determination like it's valid in this discussion.
No, N, your parents failed you and that's what's sad. When you take a look around and wonder, "where is all this hate coming from?" Look inward. You're exactly the problem being discussed here. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and seek the education that you lack.
And if you read this and it made you angry, good. Reflect on that anger and grow. That's what smart people do. I mean, you ARE smart... right? 🙂
@@Bearolus that wasnt civil at all not gonna lie
@@Bearolus I wonder if you say the same about 'MAP' discrimination.
Just how it wasn’t about water fountains this isn’t about bathrooms and sports teams. It’s unfortunate that even with such advanced technology we as humans continue to repeat the exact same mistakes over and over and over again. Maybe this place truly is purgatory never truly advancing if it can’t benefit someone else. The pure need that some feel to make others seem inferior. Time moves on. But the same mistakes will seem to unfortunately continue to be made. But if you look back in the text books of history the oppressor never oppresses for long. But they must learn that the hard way of corse.
This place is purgatory once we believe theres such thing as opressors and opressed. All there is is continuated existance. Existance of body and mind. If body harms mind, we heal the body. If mind hurts body, what should we do?
Do not bring the genocide and Holocaust of America into this. Jim crow laws were remnants of a genocide that happened in this country. Trans people are not going through that at all. Thank you for attending my ted talk
I’m just gonna point out your name as to why I shouldn’t listen to anyone on the internet as a kid.
@@Hewitttrak Wdym they are right
Being trans isn't the same as being black. Don't equate the two. Trans people today have no idea the struggles that POC had and still have today
unlike what others would say
i say this isnt a good thing
I’m so glad that in Vancouver we don’t have this problem and everyone is a human
at what cost?
Yeah because Canada totally doesn’t have a history of mistreating indigenous First Nations people and dehumanizing them
@@willowboughs5111 The United States has the same issue. We just not only refuse to acknowledge it but are continuing to repeat it.
@@willowboughs5111 Well... no. Canada is still part of the British commonwealth.. and.. there you go. As a Brit, I'm not proud of that fact.. but iiwii
@@4777hamza No cost
vox deletes comments
The fact that this comment exists debunks your statement
@@haskeymorrisonDo you really think they read every comment?
Because “will somebody think of the children?” Has been a tactic used to fight minority rights since minority rights in the US exist?
Edit: Aw shucks, “the US’s complex law system favouring the rights of the complex and abstract concept of the state over the rights of the individuals was my second guess!”
-"Guys it's about the states rights! just like the civil war!!"
the states rights to do _what_ exactly during the civil war?
this problem is about the children, and using this excuse on a problem ABOUT children is just hypocrisy
While other countries are progressing United States is regressing
The US at this point of time is like Russia in the 1800s, far behind Europe and other western nations, while still being a powerful military force
You mean recessing, like in a recession...
Oh, wait.
Let's be real, most countries are regressing right now
Genuine question. If the schools that get federal fundings are beholden to not discriminate sexes, how is having men’s/women’s sport teams justified in the first place?
Really good question that you have proposed!
@@proxy3386 I’ve always felt that this is the uncomfortable question everybody keeps avoiding when discussing trans rights in sports.
It’s the same reason that boxing divided into weight classes, women get crushed under most athletic men
@@Milk-ew4pf just divide it into things like weight classes, then?
There's a very obvious disconnect between funding/viewership/appreciation of men's and women's sports, anyways; so it's not like there's only one reason to do so.
@@Milk-ew4pf This is incorrect. Women's sports were split out because women were *beating* men, and men got bent out of shape about it.
A lot of school issues are talked about but the one thing people of all political views can agree on is schools are failing. Schools are failing to protect kids from bullying and failing to inspirre them and give them purpose, as a highschool student, whose been bullied I know how hard those situations can be on a student, when you combine that with constant streams of negative news and current events, things can seem hopeless, especially when schools are overpacked and underfunded. This means the few teachers who are genuinely still passionate and trying their best to help kids learn and grow are overworked and are bound to the curriculum which isn't inspiring and teaching kids or helping them push their boundaries. Really there is an issue with the entire school system which needs a complete systematic overhaul. This will likely never happen because politicians and political activists (now everyone and their mom) are too busy, pointing fingers and arguing about which bathrooms 2% of students use for them to take a second to address and try to solve any of the huge issues that face every child in the nation enrolled in public school. I mean this is the big problem every one is talking about when it only accounts for 0.004% of total attempted suicides. The sad thing is that politicians on both sides use arguments like these to shift blame and claim moral high ground, just to avoid the responsability to take action, and work together to actually solve problems, and it works. (I'm not saying these issues don't matter but they shouldn't be the priority especally because they're just specific examples of a greater issue not being seen by adults)
I seriously don't get this movement.
Lower age of consent
trans rights are human rights
So trans rights shouldn’t exist because everyone is human
So no trans rights?
@@BoltCreations (To be clear, this a comparason, using someone awfull to show how this logic doesn't work, its not my actual position)
"Right and infrastructure for physical disabled people shouldn't exist cuz we are all human"
@@BoltCreations then why aren't trans people getting the human rights?
They have human rights. What they want is special rights and to step on other people's rights.
Bring it back to a local level!!!
Vox: “Let’s report on the biggest issues in the US!”
Vox: *reports on none of the actual issues and chooses the issues people cry the most about, but aren’t actually a big deal*
What are important issues in your opinion? Are "the issues people cry the most about" not the most important issues, especially when considering the fact that many Americans are still divided on them (e.g. abortion)?
@@5ynthet1c abortion and trans rights aren’t critical/crucial for the survival let alone existence of the nation and the longevity of the Union
they should be reporting on the economic issues, deadly drug pandemics, border crisis, international security issues that affect the US, the homeless crisis and the issue regarding climate change and lack of domestic industrialization making the nation reliant on foreign powers
@@5ynthet1c just because a bunch of twitter users let alone MSM can’t agree on it doesn’t make it important,
@@hornet370 Replied in 4 business days... The importance of abortion rights and trans rights is a subjective matter, and opinions may vary depending on individual beliefs and values. However, it is worth noting that these topics are significant and have been the subject of extensive debates and discussions in many countries. Both these topics are important to many Americans, not just "twitter users".
"they should be reporting on the economic issues, deadly drug pandemics, border crisis, international security issues that affect the US, the homeless crisis and the issue regarding climate change and lack of domestic industrialization making the nation reliant on foreign powers"
They've done videos on basically all these topics. These issues are important as well.
@@hornet370 they do report on those issues
I'm trans. That's the first time I've ever confessed that, for years I've been too scared yet now I'm finally doing it. It does get better guys.
proud of you lad, keep bein you
Seek help
Go seek help
@@Wangchung405 Just, stop
Ok cool
Props to the Nashville school board voting their morals and not just thinking about funding and politics! These people are gems among the turds of Tennessee!
Props to those who seek Truth instead of the evil destructive fads of our time. To hurt a child is always an evil act, even when it comes wraped in rainbow colors.
@@GustavoGarcia-hi4yq no one is hurting children xD
@@Hewitttrak well, I think in nearly every case, you will decide that actually, you kinda liked having those rights, and it's you actually would really like them please
@@GustavoGarcia-hi4yq Nice virtue signaling
@@GustavoGarcia-hi4yq Citation needed
We are going backward
how?
We're talking about who can share the same sink and mirror. Why are we having this debate again?
Because segregated bathrooms still exist and some people get really bothered by trans people existing at all.
Schools are societal scapegoats here in the states.
who is blaming schools?
Schools are just the same here in Canada
tbf the American education system is horribly flawed
They may be scapegoats, but they seem to be the place that genders matter too much. And there is little escape from a bad school situation.
@@somenameidk5278 and then proceed to do something clearly intentioned without thinking about said children
This country is so far gone. Beyond saving.
Leave the children alone
i agree, we should let trans kids live happily and figure themself out. we shouldn’t introduce these bogus laws when there’s real issues. like kids.. yknow, dying in school from gun violence.
@@JR-xy2jo why you care about kids getting killed in school and not care about abortion?
The us: we have freedom for anyone
Also the us: no one has freedom
Well as long as you're white enough looking and come from a successful family
why all of you hating federal if state is the one creating the laws
Well, there's a limit to what u can do otherwise you're either living in an anarchist or totalitarian state. U are entitled to those rights AND also obligated to respect people's rights.
@@bailbondsyesbailbonds gosh pls just stop
Why doesn’t the school add another neutral bathroom.
why doesn't the school allow them to use the right bathroom.
@@kekatte what’s the point of arguing. They are trans not biologically natural in what they identify. Regardless of plastic and artificial anything this is true. A neutral bathroom and neutral dress area is appropriate. If they aren’t comfortable with their biological nature and spaces for such then a neutral space makes logical sense. They might not identify as a man or women but they can’t be anything they wish. This is reality.
Trans have only recently asked for special privileges and been a hyper focus, sadly it’s mostly political and for health coverage of many plastic elective surgeries. Also lifelong medicines that produce artificial changes and have many health risks/adverse side effects.
Meanwhile those with life threatening diseases don’t even have that available and people are homeless and food/nutritionally deprived. There are many ways to solve this, like fund raising and private money being available.
Minors definitely shouldn’t be enabled by state guardianship or anything that over steps hard boundaries. The government has a set role and is failing to even meet that yet they divert attention of this by exploiting groups and other matters that are not within their realm or even Constitutional.
@@vintagevibes1974 - Wanting to use the bathroom you want to use without being harassed is not a "special privilege." That's just a basic right that everyone should have.
@@vintagevibes1974We tried that in the 60s, went as well as you’d expect. Single stall bathrooms are expensive to build and are often abused by people skipping class.
I personally could not care less about trans people. But I think that a parent phrased this best: "leave the kids alone".
"All in all you're just another brick in the wall"
@@aurin_komak schools be like:
Can’t wait to see people debate my right to exist
You'd get mad at me if I tried to be a black dude. C'mon.
@@thecoolannishatk. what
@@thecoolannishatk. this is related how?
@@slappels1266 A change in a fundamental part of the body.
@@thecoolannishatk. you're comparing apples to oranges buddy.
Cheating (at sports) is a fundamental human right. Everyone knows that.
I'm assuming all this is in American schools.
Here in the UK, if you say you don't support trans you are sent to the principles office.
My brother in law's brother had this happen at his school. The teacher asked everyone who supported trans and my brother in law's brother and his friend said no. Both sent to the principles office to be "educated" on how their opinion was wrong....
I'm sure you didn't make that up, and I'm sure UK schools have "principles".
@@ERobbins1234homeboy. Every school no matter where it is has a principle
top 10 things that did not happen
@@khalilabushahin418 UK school have headteachers.
That's a smart theory since the video is quite obviously about the usa
Adult trans folks have high mental health risks, too.
And they say its because folks listen to us, thats why we have those issues. Not the bullying, potential neglect, hearing yourself be used as a political football, potentially being kicked out or many other co issues like enviromental issues, disability rights issues, racism issues. Like. People do not think for a second its how trans folks are treated that often makes us suicidal. Not us being trans, but the fear mongering and hate against our community.
Identity politics always ensures one group is victimized. The community you speak of is hellbent on defending itself, which makes it a good target for right wing conservatives. The more you see yourself as a separate group, the more you Will be separated as a group.
@@confusotron
Keep blaming the victims, dude
You think I'm blaming victims? How so?
I wonder why you are disliked? hmmm, not a clue.
@@spitfirefan5545 Keep speaking in riddles, Senor Fogwall
Honestly America is a joke now.
Always has been
so where would you move to?
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 no , i am not going anywhere. I am going to try to make this hellplace a better place
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 If you want a long profile name try something like Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas A. Shilage instead (it's not even as long as the longest name ever).
Also what A K said.
@@LutraLovegood i never said it was the longest, never once
Because students are easy to indoctrinate and brainwash since they have a tendency to be adaptive with strange/new things
Vox should make a video about Joe Biden’s response about Taiwan, China, and the recession that is currently happening.
What recession?
@@ultrasuperkiller The GDP (Global Domestic Product) has declined in the last 2 quarters for the U.S. Which is the definition for recession. But the White House is currently denying that :/
@@bearylost6439 true, tho this ignore the fact that the gdp growth in the 4th quarter of 2021 was much bigger than the decline in the last 2 quarters so looking at the timeline it looks like the recession was cause by the supply chain problems from the ukraine war rather than covid or bidens presidency
It's way too early to make a video on such a complex topic.
@@ultrasuperkiller housing crisis, and something else i forgot
I miss going to school physically but sometimes I'm glad that my mom made me go online. I'd hate attending with people who knew me before I came out.
P.O.V: You grew up Fatherless
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234you haven’t had a good father so you think real fathers abuse
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 projection much?
The real answer is to create sides, so the people can't unite to adress the bigger problems, education wealth, health, problems that make them money...
You can worry about more than one issue
@@kevinsilva1109 you are missing the point
Yes, too much of this bull that's not important and only addresses so few people
@@vAscA187 No your blurrying the lines, unfortunately just like these politicians.
@@natenae8635 please elaborate
I sorta understand the sports debate but there isn’t enough research on it for me to make a set decision. Also whenever it comes to trans rights it’s always about trans women, how they are getting into women’s spaces, restrooms, and sports. So are trans men? What sane person is going to transition just to go into the women’s bathrooms, literally anyone can walk into a bathroom what’s stopping someone that’s man from going into the women’s bathroom? Nothing. Trans women just want to use the bathroom. Thankfully my school is pretty good about trans rights, we have gender neutral bathrooms and locker rooms and the teachers address the kids as their preferred pronouns. I have no clue how it is for the sports teams because I didn’t play any, but my trans friend in tennis never mentioned anything
_“Also whenever it comes to trans rights it’s always about trans women, how they are getting into women’s spaces, restrooms, and sports. So are trans men?”_
Because men have nothing to fear in terms of harassment or being outperformed.
_“(…) literally anyone can walk into a bathroom what’s stopping someone that’s man from going into the women’s bathroom?”_
The people around them, and the women inside. But now that's suddenly not so clear cut anymore. Is intervention justified, or are we looking at a hatecrime?
you say transition like it’s some long complicated process all i have to do is claim to be a woman and im transitioned
@@moggingyou Um, no? They're talking about medical transition here
@@HiAdrian Intervention in what? Kids going to the bathroom? That's a false dilemma, because the intervention is neither justified, nor a hatecrime. It's unnecessary and arbitrary.
@@moggingyou So do it. Claim to be one, go around live your life full time claiming that. You'll find out very quickly that if you want to survive you have to medically transition and socially transition.
Even Donald Trump doesn't lie as much as this video does.
Can’t wait to see what the Supreme Court has to say.
Not optimistic about that lot...
If they protect our constitutional rights they will do a decent job.
@@MrGert150 and which rights are you looking to have enforced? The right to "be" or the right to "choose"? Because to enforce this delusional right to identify nonsense is to deny people's right to refuse acknowledgement and thus void their own rights.
So which is it? Take your pick
@@MrGert150 yeah, they're not doing that anymore
It wouldn't surprise me if the current Supreme Court restored "separate but equal."
This is America.
I'm trans and in Utah and I've got to say, thank you Vox for showing people outside of the country that yes, it's so much worse here than they ever thought.
Ywnbaw
@@spinalrex anime profile picture
@@spinalrex what do you think about loli
@@spinalrex extremely based
As a trans person living in the UK I feel so bad for all of you :(
When one of the two available parties refuses to adhere to the gentleman's agreements that the government has been built upon, then democracy no longer functions.
A party that is anti democratic, tried to take power through a coup d'état and is willingly and knowingly breaking the law should not be allowed to exist.
This video did not really talk about how such laws are allowed to pass. It was a surface level analysis of the symptom, not the cause.
When you have a party that is this openly fashist, it is your duty as someone reporting on the impact of their actions to call that out.
You cannot have balanced reporting when one side does not operate on the same playingfield as the other.
Who is here after they got debunked
Schools should be at the centre of every step of our advance, from social progress to economic one. We need to invest in a good education that gives you the opportunity not only to show your ability to memorize numbers, rules and names, but also your creativity and your logic thought.
Yeah teaching children something based on an agenda to indoctrinate them certain beliefs that this thing they are inclined to believe is wrong, is probably not that right step to help promote creativity. How about no agenda republican or democrat
@@ebuslamentee5963 yeah, no agendas. Just teach them about basic respect of human rights and make them aware that other "strange people" exist and live normal lives just like you.
If school is an investment why does the government subsidize it? Should the government buy me stocks?
@@Iknowthismeme Well schools do that, and beyond. Go to any UNI and you will throw up at how radicalized they are lol
@@krulak292 what are your standards for "radicalized"?
Leave the kids alone
Why would people work so hard just to deny other people happiness? Just because they are different? Its so confusing.
Exactly it's very complicated in my country
It’s a sad reality we live. Especially here in the US 😪
What's so happy about pushing the support of under age manipulation of children to coerce them into taking medication that makes them sterile, impotent and weakens their bones?
That’s exactly what transgenders do. They’re so unhappy with what they initially have that they make it known everywhere. When they change themselves to be happy as they seem to be, they again make it known to others, working hard to deny the majority unwilling to witness all this and being too polite to say it out loud.
If you think it's as simple as that, you haven't even grasped the basics of this subject.
“Land of the free.”
They should leave the kids alone.
I live near Madison, so my schools are pretty progressive, but the lack of awareness of the staff when a student is trans is disturbing. A trans peer was followed into a bathroom by a teacher and questioned as to why they were in there lol
@@obperfected The teacher? Yup
@@obperfected Nah, they weren't
@@obperfected How do *you* know they were in the wrong bathroom?
@@obperfected
The comment was saying that the teacher was harassing them for no reason
@Osteo Striga
...to harass them?? Or maybe they were confused. Nobody knows so stop thinking about it, it won't get you anywhere
US is so lost
Okay Groomers
WE NEED TO STOP THIS NOW!!!
We don't have the power to do so it's the government who can do things yet they dont
@TerritoriesOfMan12 Everyone
@TerritoriesOfMan12we
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I agree and I'm young, we shouldn't be pushing topics like this into school or even getting children involved in this.
This was such a emotional video, i am not a trans person let alone a parent of a trans kid but it is heartbreaking that kids are being put through this at such a young age. Who in there right mind are they to judge anyone based on a choice to pursuit what truly makes them happy 😢
the answer: the right wingers
I know! Its heartbreaking that kids are getting put on hormone blockers and getting mutilated at such a young age 😢
Imagine having parents to teach one the difference between reality and fantasy. That would be nice.
Drugs makes some kid happy. Should ppl stop telling them to do drugs?
@@ToadTendo
Literally the group that has more sense.
The Debunkers humbled you very quickly
The federal government is at odds with conservative states. When have I heard that one before?
*cough* *cough* *civil war*
you mean like the one the south lost?
@@ToadTendo Except now the Conservatives have all the gun owners, Vets, AD, and cops.
No one is gonna go to war over a bunch of kids.
How is it legal to make a law that is federally illegal? Shouldn’t the people who made it and enforce it be jailed for breaking the law?
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Do not post (if you're not ready for the reply). Thanks (LOL)
It is for the same reason that weed is legal in California and Oregon, and CBD oil is legal in Indiana.
Despite the fact that it's illegal federally (even federal employees with permanent residence in those states cannot legally consume THC/CBD, due to the federal Controlled Substances Act (CSA)), it is legal for the ordinary citizen to do so.
This is because the federal government grants states rights in most cases, and does not interfere because they don't want to get into any unnecessary disputes with the state governments.
This is part of the federated, anti-unitary government of the United States.
@@petr_e yeah thats hilarious (do not reply)
Weed is illegal per federal law...or even heroin...
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This is horrible. This shouldn’t be happening in the modern world. We have trans rights pretty much nationwide here in Canada but I feel so bad for those in the us.
Canadians make me jealous 😭
Well the whole point of women sports is to level the playing field men are just stronger genetically and its unfair.
@@simplicityd8703 in that case why can’t trans men play in men’s sports?
@@Sstr23 they would be clobbered…
@@AlexGonzalez-ye9pc so what? They still play in those game and, what do you know, they win at rates so normal, its almots like hrt makes able to perform normally at the level of men.
Wonder if that aplies to transwomen.
Oh, whait, it does so well that the Olympics now test for hormones % in the bodies of athletes to determine their category, even finding out that most winning cid women in sport win to a unnaturally hight amont of T in their body, so much that they needed to go on hrt on compete agaist men, which some on lower levels then the Olympics themselves do and win?
are we supposed to tell are kids we don't love them because there different? thats what politicians don't understand. are kids are our kids. we love them no matter what, thats what makes them, them and gives them personality.
if the politicians that pass these laws have trans kids, they are going to do everything to cover it up. even though they are ok with it deep down because they can't say no to their kids about how they are.
Not only telling them we don't love them, but trying to get them bullied, harassed, attacked and perhaps killed
Less than 70 years ago (in 1954) it was legal for schools to be segregated by race. That’s painfully recent, within living memory. My hope is that laws will change fast enough that these anti-trans bills will also be merely a bad
memory.
Just 10 years ago there was only 2 simple to understand, healthy genders, I hope within living memory these lgtbq advocates will be gone declined , just like how the hippies, the vegans the radical feminists have all declined
Stop comparing this to race ITS NOT THE SAME FOH!!!
I was thinking the same. This is reminiscent of the civil rights movement in ending segregation. Public spaces being policed by all levels of government.
wow man, u think these two are the same 😬
@@mariceladaini9304 Well some public spaces are still clearly segregated (bathrooms).
Just make bathrooms for everyone. It’ll solve so many problems at once.
then people would yell no more taxes
I believe it is a matter that might need to be brought down to the local government level instead of the state.
Keep this out of our schools. These kids need help, not encouragement.
Pretty sure 'schools are at the center of trans rights' because that is where the children interact the most with people other than their parents. People who are perceived to have an ever growing desire to subvert the will of those parents.
I thought this was a place where all are created equal? I guess that was a BIG ol lie
always has been
Equal OPPORTUNITY is the aspiration not equal TREATMENT. If you create a delusion about what you are and then start forcing it on other people, then that was your own choice and you WILL be treated differently for it. Thinking otherwise is just self-pitying victim complex.
All (conservative, cishet, white, protestant, property owning) men are created equal.
@@Ljcoleslaw it's not a delusion though.
@@Ljcoleslaw Absolutely true!!!
As a European I don’t get this issue. Why these things only happen in USA?
what gun and trans laws y’all got over there?
Because the far right here is the main opposition and rather than attack themes like multiculturalism to the same degree, they go for more fringe social issues.
Some people do not get it. If you are a biological man, no matter who you identify as, you should not be allowed to compete with biological woman.
@@anonymousman9824 Compete? I didn't know toilets were a competition.
@@anonymousman9824 But biological women can compete with biological men? Wouldn't it be just as "wrong" if a trans man competed with other men and won? And speaking of trans men, if trans women can't compete with women, will trans men then be forced to compete with women instead of men? Or is that unfair too?
Haven't thought about that, have you?
Guys, run.
I'm a trans kid. In middle school, I was relentlessly bullied for being trans and teachers did nothing and actually victim blamed me because of my trans identity. When I got to highschool, they made a plan to prevent further bullying and things have slowly improved. So far, no one at my school knows I'm trans besides my teachers who have to respect my pronouns as part of the plan. I'm lucky to be in a blue state.
No one at your school knows apart from your teachers? That must be tricky for the teachers having to juggle pronouns around you when other pupils are present in your company. So how does that work out then?
Hey don't let all these idiotic republicans throwing a tantrum in the comments of this video get you down, there are tons of people like me out there who 100% support & love you for who you are
@@ToadTendo I'm not a Republican.
I think you'll find that many Democrats are also voicing their concerns over this. It's not as black & white as you think it is, there are a lot of nuances to consider and when I see comments like this, it's as though there's some kind of over-simplified, backward thinking that it's down to 'good vs evil' like it was some game or a plot to a film.
That’s great! Very happy you have good teachers who know what they’re doing.
Yikes feel bad for people with mental disorders
Everyone has a right to be who they want to be. Protect trans kids.
No
Everyone has the right to be who they truly are and shouldn't have to hide it.
You cannot choose what you are though, that's dilusional and in the end a lie.
Giving these people the hopes they really could become a woman is disgusting.
@Carrie Good Not in women's sports, but they have every right to use bathrooms as much as everybody else.
@Carrie Good This will shock you, but they're already there, you just don't know it.
@@feathersigil2048 Micheal Jordan identifying as a "woman" to destroy everyone in womans basketball 💀
Schools can just follow state laws and refuse the federal funding. It's not hard.
Or they can follow federal laws, refuse state funding, and get the majority of their funding from local governments, if the local governments agree with the feds.
And the federal government does not have the power to enforce civil rights laws with regards to intrastate activity. Including schools.
I thought it was the federal government makes laws and those are top and anything not specified goes to state laws?
Where the problem at?
It's not that hard to figure out what to do, do what's right and the rest will follow
Different people have different opinions on what is right though
It's actually difficult to figure out what's right. For example we've poured a fortune in trying to find ideal diets for humans and all we have is a mountain of contradictory evidence.
Now throw in limited ressources, limited time, varying tastes and restrictions, etc and how do you even decide on what food you should serve to school kids?
But in this video's case there is clearly an option that is better for the kids, and it's not withholding funds just to harm trans children.
@@gojira4036 The old way is old because it worked
@@roach_but_roachier The "old way"? Like when women were not people under the law? or when black people were property? The "old way" only worked for a certain subset of the population. The goal of any society should be progress towards ways that work for everyone.
@@gojira4036both cannot be right though. U can believe you're right and still be wrong, truth is what matters
Americans having too much comfort in their lives they just create new issues out of thin air.
this has always been an issue. its only became a political issue because (socially conservative) politicians saw a way to market that hatred to their benefit.