2013 MINI Cooper S vs. 2013 Fiat 500c Abarth
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I bought an Abarth Cabriolet thinking it would be a temporary, inexpensive, yet fun car to hold me over 'til my next sports car. Well, I have fallen in love with it. I have now tuned it to over 200hp with simple bolt-on's, lowered it some and let me tell you, the Abarth corners better than my previous car - a 2002 911 Turbo! A tuned Abarth is about as much fun in the canyons as any car I've driven. Lame review.
Bravo, only the ignorant don't get it.
Exactly, my Abarth is just as much fun as any of my Ferraris or Maseratis. I just order a bunch of stuff to tune it and give it the look it deserves.
Is the abarth reliable in higher milage ? Looking for one at 90k miles
@@jeff346 mine is at 90k and drives great!
@@jeff346 The 1.4T is an amazing bulletproof engine, its the rest of the car that tends to have issue, fit and finish mostly. Modern Fiats with an MT and the 1.4T are very reliable.
I've driven the 500 and the seating position is so comfortable that I could make long journeys without any problem.
same
I own the abarth and after 22k miles in a year, I love it just as much as I did when I first got it....
@@bootafromune1 same. I often just drive it for the heck of it since i live near interesting and curvy backroads. So fun..
I nap in my Abarth seat daily
Always wanted a Mini. Test drove the Mini Cooper twice, within 5-7 years. It rode low, hard and shitty, Meh, Just not fun. Years later, Had to rent a car for two weeks while my transmittion was being replaced in my v6 Honda Accord and it was a Fiat 500. It was so much fun to drive! Went online to find out about the turbo Abarth. I own a 2013 Fiat Abarth and its the best car Ive ever owned.
I have a 2013 Abarth and my friend has a Cooper S. We both love our cars and we respect the differences. I have more room in the Fiat, but you do sit higher. Both are more than fast enough, but the Cooper is half a second faster to 60....but with such a small difference, a good driver vs an average one can make that up easy. Inside materials are better quality on the Cooper...but almost nothing under 50K on the road sounds better than the Abarth. That car makes such sweet music! I smile every time I start it up! The Cooper cannot match it in the sound department. Overall, both are cool and take your pick! For me, I love the less refined, rough around the edges and always scrappy Fiat. You cannot have more fun for 23K.
Sorry Zeke...check the stats. Only in 2014 did the classic mini cooper have more interior room. They widened and lengthened the model in 2014. 2013 or earlier, the Fiat has more room. That is a fact...prejudices and made up adjectives do not count!
the sound I agree with. I belong to a Dart group which some of the Darts come with the 1.4t that came from the abarth. I unfortunately got into the market too late since all of the turbo manuals were gone in my area. But those friends that have them, that sound is just amazing!
I feel bad for you. Good luck with your next car purchase.
cut the muffler off the mini and it will sound just as good
You can get many many cars in a up to 20k$ price range.
People continue to compare the Abarth to various models of Mini. In this video, they compare the 500c Abarth rather than the hard top because it normally costs 4K more. That kind of gets it up into the price range of the Mini Cooper S. What they don't tell you is that you can currently purchase a new 2013 hard top Abarth with all the bells and whistles for around $7K under invoice... right around $21K. Show me a Mini Cooper S that you can buy, with all the options, for anywhere under $30. You can't. So when you listen to the reviews, understand that they are comparing two cars that have about a $10K price difference. If they are going to do that, which is completely unfair to the Fiat, why not compare the Mini Cooper S to an Audi A5? I'll take the Audi all day.
I had a 13 Cooper s coupe. And I’m black 😂 anyway don’t sleep on n54
Exactly! Thank you
This guy's are so boring, I didn't hear anything good from the cars, only the conclusion where they picked the mini for the gas economy. wtf
@James Stewart forgot about the cup holder bro
Sexist anti progressive sexists
I’ve owned both cars. Both are great fun! Both have lots of character and personality.. the Abarth has a bit more though, it sounds better, looks better ( in my opinion) and is overall more fun to drive ( also, just my opinion) with that being said, the mini is more refined and overall has better driving dynamics. To each their own
Owned my 14' Abarth since July of last year.
Had a Faulty Vac pump and upper jounce bumpers out of the gate- but 16K miles later no issues.
Installed 500 Madness ECU tuner with 3K on the clock- woke it up and would eat a Cooper like this (200Whp), 10K in, replace stock 16" AS tires with sticky 17" summer tires and replace rear torsion bar- made it handle MUCH better without hurting ride quality.
Recently did the track experience- and let me tell you- reviewers are too harsh on the way the car handles, it handles amazingly when pushed, you FEEL LIKE the car is losing traction and tipping over and they assume the car is, but in reality, its planted and far more capable than you think.
The car will push (all FWD cars will and do), but you can get it to turn more by using your brakes and steering much more aggressively (causes the rear to step out momentarily), and with a simple $130 torsion bar you unlock a lot more steering.
I have driven 200 miles in one go, and stepped out of the car with no aches and pains, and I'm 6'2, its very comfortable but still has a stiff suspension and chassis to let you know its a sports (or sporty) car.
The Cooper is a good mini-car, but its a phony- its a BMW pretending to be a Mini, the Fiat is designed by Fiat in Italy with a few tweaks from SRT, it has quirks and character and a evil sounding engine that separates it from the rest of the heard.
I would choose my Abarth over a "Cooper" any day, for $500 bucks it will out run it, for $150 it will out handle it and the tone of the exhaust is intoxicating, it is out of the box-more fun.
I was in the market for a BRZ, Cooper, Fiesta ST, Genesis coupe and Sonic RS, and I am 100% sure I made the right choice, and would choose it again if given the chance.
Doubt it costs the same, I got my car for 21K with a sunroof, seat warmers and other stuff, sticker was like 27K
I hardly even had to haggle.
Fiat is really good with dropping the prices on these as they are a niche car, it's not unheard of to get one well under 20K with no options.
Peak HP isn't the whole story though, the output a low RPM is awesome because of the multi-air design, you can punch it on the highway in 5th and take off like it's in passing gear.
Plus, I really hate the look of the brand new mini- they ruined it.
I'll agree the fiat has a odd look, you either love it or hate it. Looks like a demented smiling frog or a fisher price paddle car on steroids, nothing else looks like it, and the sound that comes from it makes it a real head turner.
I bought the car with a lifetime warranty and I bought it to drive it till the wheels fall off.
Where are you from? because over here in Illinois, I have only seen 2 abarths, I see more standard 500's and L/X's but they are still rare.Even during the Track experience only 17 showed, and 80% where from Michigan /Iowa.
+Wyvern
Who told you Illinois is the best place of the ABARTH ! !
The copper S I found to be number one everywhere, I mean everywhere almost as common as seeing a Mustang on the road; I wanted something new. Don't get me wrong great car, great looking etc; I didn't like the price, and the reliability record, so I looked at the Abarth. In Europe the Fiat has a stellar record and it was cheap and when I test drove the Abarth, it felt quicker..Did I say Quicker yep but its not.. the Abarth has many issues, sloppy gear shift, rear end bounce, an ECU that pushes an engine way under specs, but IN MY OPINION it has great looks. So Ive owned one NOW for over a year what do I think???, I love it I drive mine 100 miles to and from work everyday is a blast! Ive put about $4500 in upgrades in mine and it will SPAnk a copper S GP, this car is so easy to upgrade the after market for these things is so large. Also did I say the engine ECU didn't push it the way it should, these engines can be safely pushed to well over 230HP in Europe they have a production model that runs at 200HP no reliability issues. I have no regrets, and I love to see the face of more expensive "faster cars" get eaten alive by me on a twisty stretch of road. I must say the Copper GP is sexy but the reliability and the plastic feel of the interior were real killers for me and the price but when your shopping for a car sometimes you can for get that the competition cost $18000.00 more
! I have driven both and both are good little cars. my girlfriend has literally this week just bought a new abarth and it gives you that beaming smile when you are tear arsing around (well you seem like you are ) just like the original mini did, wear as the BMW mini has just bloated and became more of a statement or a fashion accessory!! In my humble opinion buy the fiat it's cheaper better looking and more importantly it will put a massive smile on you face :)
When buying my first car I either wanted a mini or a fiat. When test driving them i straight away fell in love with the mini instead of the fiat. I’ve now had my mini for a year and I’m so in love with how it looks and how it drives.
Everything is subjective but they said the Mini had a kidney jarring ride and the seats where not comfortable for anything but short drives. Where as the Abarth had a comfortable ride, seats that where great for both short trips and long distance and it had better rear seat room. They gave the average of there MPG for the test week on the Mini but not the Fiat. Then at the end they say they like the Mini better because it was more comfortable and had better gas mileage. The review seemed pretty biased sounding to me. The 500 is cheaper more roomy and more comfortable to drive seems like a no brainer. I do agree it would be nice to get a six speed if they could make it fit.
They also seemed to forget to mention the price of running costs. Such as when needing service you can take a Fiat to any Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram. Instead of the very sparse BMW/Mini dealers
Everything is functional on the car, no fake hood scoops, nasty plastic trim, huge head and tail lights ect.
Its goofy looking, but it doesn't look like a plasticity, gaudy, cookie cutter car.
And it sounds like a monster.
Yet the Fiat has more back seat leg room.
this whole video is just about roasting the fiat
youre right
Most of the roasting was about the convertible aspect. Abarth coupe is the way to go!
Because it's not as good.
These guys are totally bias toward the Mini. Hardly a review.
agree with you
ale mariani agreed
Maybe they're biased because the Mini is better? And they're doing a comparison and not a separate review?
Brad S agreed :P
Agreed. I've driven both. There are things I like and dislike in both...but I would never say that the Mini is better because that would be false. It's all about which you want to live with. Evenly matched just different in unique ways.
I drive an Abarth Yamaha. It drives like an Italian car should-putting a smile on my face and making you feel great. It drives wonderful, has the looks and the Monza exhaust. What a noise!!!
The Fiat loyal know, Abarth doesn't at all care about your comfort concerns
Wish we could hear more of the nutty exhaust notes that the reviewers raved about. The US Abarth is a basically straight pipe from the cats. It's so wrong that it's actually charming.
You buy the Fiat, for its magnificent sounding exhaust.
Its great fun to drive, and is ultra rare compared to the Mini, and it's Italian.
That's enough reason to buy one.
6'5" here and the Abarth is super comfy. I've never loved an inanimate object more than my 500c
Did you re mount the seat? I’m 6’5 and my head scrapes the roof in the hard top
nothing "raspy" about the Abarth. I think they used the wrong word
Anyone else find it funny how the short guy was the one driving the Abarth?
Regardless, this review is garbage. This is like asking the twerp at an O'Rielly's that drives a Honda Civic with a coffee can exhaust to give automotive advice.
Oh, and the Abarth has a 5-speed since a 6-speed literally won't fit. Go look at the mechanics of one.
Im just going to say it, mini coopers are overrated and the fiat Abarth is underrated.
Both cars are underrated
when we are considering a car of this nature we do not want something that looks mature, we want awesome and kick ass. lol fiat 500 abarth.
Those sunroofs on the mini look like they will trouble in a few years
*will be
I just bought a low-mileage 2013 Abarth cabrio and I was kind of somewhat expecting a Mini Cooper S-type handling experience. It's not that. I had bought a new '03 Mini Cooper S and owned it for 4 years and it was so fun to drive. Definitely "Go-Cart" like. Then, in 2007 I test-drove the 2nd gen MINI and was pretty disappointed. It felt softer, less responsive, a bit bigger etc. The salesman showed me the "sport" button so that I could have more "fun". Since then MINI, (in my mind), completely sold out to consumers wanting more space, softer ride, less responsive steering etc. Not to mention enlarging the car to ugly, gargantuan proportions, (IMO). They lost me when MINI stopped being mini and became maxi! Enter the FIAT 500. What a great re-creation of the original! And it hasn't grown bigger over the years. I appreciate that. Alot. It's been a long time since I've driven a MINI but it seems like the Abarth doesn't really ride as if it was "on rails" like my MINI did. But it's just as fun and grin-inducing for other reasons. I realize that I'm comparing a 2003 MINI to a 2013 Abarth so take it with a grain of salt.
Comparing a Cooper S Works to a standard Abarth 500 is ridiculous!!! Should have compared it to Abarth 595.
On the cars though…the Abarth has more style, sounds nicer, is funner to drive and is FAR less common than a Cooper. For these reasons, I bought an Abarth.
Far less common than the cooper? So you bought it to be a hipster?
Your first comment portrayed you as a faaily decent lad with common sense, but this one proves you're a delinquent. Enjoy driving your Cooper S with the other minions.
ThisIsBarcode Well driving a car just because it's less common makes no real sense, if that is a main reason to drive a car I think there's something to be said about the person.
Please see my original comment where I explained ALL my reasons for owning an Abarth. Also note where "how common each car is" on my list. Cheers.
Fuck all FIATS. They're built for FASCISTS. Only a douche that thinks a pea-sized car is an actual automobile. Pea-sized cars for pea-sized brains (except a Mini because it's made by a legit automaker like BMW, of course). The rest of them are quite literally symbols of 19th century European fascism.
I love the look of the Abarth. It is like a little pissed off bulldog waiting to pounce at your throat... then gets all cuddly and cute for a second before going for your balls.
No, it's like a stupid little Pomeranian about to fall down a step and break every bone in its weak little body.
blueonblack83 that's hilarious it does look like a bulldog 😂😂😂
those guys are just fiat haters
it's safe for it's size. duh. they are as cheaply made as any other car in that price range. if a car last or not, it depends a lot of how the owner take care of it.
@Green Flip who would think a fiat looks good fists are really ugly and cheap cars
They were built to be hated.
@@T1105. Who would think beauty Is objective
a hot hatch is suppose to be a crazy training shoe and thats why i will still take the Fiat no matter what
MINI has a "crazy training shoe", the JCW. Can even get the AWD ones.
Max Rathburn The Cooper Works is like a Royal Family member trying to act in a Fast & Furious movie. Abarth all day!!!
ThisIsBarcode I like the Cooper much more than the Fiat, having been in both while car shopping. The Mini just has more character in my own opinion and feels better at the wheel.
Fiat is far better than the mini and this is a comment from a British guy. You just gotta luv the sound from that little engine.🔥🔥🔥👍
I like tem both but ive had a thing for the Abarth since Clarkson drove one a few years back on top gear
Yep, that's when I fell in love with them!
i drove a 500 drop top a couple years ago, i get my smart serviced there, so i drive 500's while i wait. i choose only to afford a "pop", i make $40K, but my gambling/travel/drinking addictions add up to maybe $15K a year, scary, i just had to think about that for a minute, i blow a new car a year on junk. i'd prefer a fiat, better steering, shorter length and a little taller (mini's you're in a fish bowl EVERYONE can look into) i took pics of an "original mini", that was freaking small! my smart looked like a giant next to it!
love clarkson, best buffoon on wheels!
I drive older cars. I like stuff I can fix up and don't have a payment. I just bought a acura integra, Non Vtec but a solid car that has went u;ntouched. Ill make it a good handler and enjoy it
Some other things I forgot to mention when I was comparing the two cars back to back is that the five-speed in the Fiat is perfectly geared you don't miss having a six-speed one bit. The car is actually surprisingly amazing on the highway and driving at high speeds on the highway is very confident inspiring and the car is super quick and willing to down shift into 4 a pretty high speeds. Also very surprising is the compliance soft handling of the Fiat suspension even though it is a very simple suspension setup is very cushy but at the same time very firm and handles incredibly well stock . Some owners at office for rear sway bar to upgrade the Fiat its very inexpensive and very easy to install and really improve the handle and to the point where the car is almost perfect and in no way too harsh for normal street driving
thanks boss
As a recent first-timer owner of a Fiat 500 Sport, I must say it is easily one the most fun cars I have ever owned. Rip thru the gears in sport mode and I dare you not to grin ear to ear. I've never driven a Mini Cooper, but, truth be told, it sure is handsome. Of the 2 I'd have to say the Cooper is the more aesthetically pleasing, but one of the things that sold me on the 500 is how even though it's technically small, when you're inside, especially behind the wheel, it feels very roomy (you sit up nice and tall) and all of the controls are easy to reach and it's just fun, fun, fun. This is truly a driving enthusiast's car.
The mini is honestly the same feeling plenty of room for the driver and passenger
Great Review! The guy that did the Abarth is great.
Great test!
Some Abarth owners are touchy and get their feelings hurt easily it seems.
Hey... I'd buy an Abarth over the Cooper S myself.... but come on people, they don't kill the Abarth here. They have some nitpicky critiques of both cars. Not the end of the world. Just drive both and get what you want. Then don't worry what other people think.
Those guys are so full of it
ABARTH WILL GET YOU LAID FASTER! ....YO!
But ull be tasting my jcw pipes
+danny garcia
funny because your JCW would be eating my exhaust gases :-p Mine currently hits 0-60 in 6.2 seconds and 0-100 in 15.7 seconds, which is 1 second faster than a mk6 Golf GTi and Astra VXR, or the same as a Clio 200 Cup.
It is soon to have over 220 bhp & 250 lb/ft...all for a lot less than a Mini JCW or Copper S, and it looks so much better too imo. Hoping for and easy sub 6 second 0-60 after these mods.
I really wish that the people reviewing cars would consider the price much more. For example £16,000 compared with £24,000 isn't exactly comparing eggs with eggs. I will have spent around £17,000 in total to have a +220bhp Abarth; that's value for money in my eyes.
Also is certainly a big hit with the ladies...
I love everyone's passion for their cars but I have driven most Hot Hatches and wouldn't change my Abarth for anything below £30k, Just sayin' ;-]
Hence my next car: A45 AMG in yellow
*****
what part of "wouldn't change my Abarth for anything below £30k" didn't you read!?
...looks worse :-I ok
+technotim22
haha wtf
+danny garcia Abartholomew was right! I was a virgin until I got my Abarth! THANK YOU MR. ABARTH! ....YO!
this review is contradictory and full of lame cliches. first they say the fiat is "dull". lol! i dont see how anyone can say that about an abarth with top down, then they say it has a rebellious spirit. secondly, they go on to say that the ride on the mini is kidney jerker, but then go on to say it has the better ride of the two. i really don't put any credibility into what these jokers are saying. you can't see out the rear view mirror on a countach but that doesn't make it a bad car, it makes it Italian with its quirks. the mini, well it even british anymore.
They forgot to tell you a plastic clip breaks on the minis timing chain just after warranty and your engine is trash.
Why didn't you compare the hardtop to the hardtop? You picked the cabrio which added weight and cost. The Abarth hardtop, even with the optional sunroof, is over $3k less than the Mini, a huge consideration for people that want a soulful car with most of the features the BMW/Mini has. The Mini is a hard car to beat and your lining them up like this essentially kneecaps the Abarth.
Great point! Abarth is much cheaper to buy as a hardtop and faster/quicker too!
Me 1 month ago: I want a truck, I _need_ a truck
Me now: cooper or fiat? 🤔🤣 wtf man
You introduced the program stating that the Mini is a John Cooper but it is not a JCW, it is a Mini S.
+DavidElCid300 It has a JCW aero kit, wheels, and interior, but the drivetrain is just the S package.
No point in racing these 2 cars as the mini would eat the 500.
Cooper 1019 nah
Tons* and no Buddy, you're crazy
The cooper S is 1 millisecond faster 0-60 so how is the base model faster than an abarth. My girl smokes minis all day S and base.
After watching this review I will go with the 370z. Thanks for the bad reviews guys.
HAHAHAHA, funny
A Mini isn't bad, but yeah, stick with a Z. Better yet, look for an old '90s 300ZX with low mileage.
can't speak for the 370, but my 350z was an absolute blast to drive and to this day I still miss it. Now if only they put the 370 interior in the 350, that would've been the perfect combo.
Late in the day I know this thread is old but I have both the cooper s as my company car and my main is a 2017 370z nismo. The cooper s is quite decent I also love fiat for the sound and also the fact it looks very close to the original both I would say are good. The cooper for the slightly better feel in terms of larger car feel and turns are sharp. The fiat for the more interesting look sound and being more perhaps driver focused.
Then again the nismo for destruction cool factor and rare Ness in the UK.
that mini is nearly perfect..has the color , all the options I wanted and beautiful wheels..too bad I can't find that one or a similar one used
they have tons of coopers on carmax! im looking into getting one soon, you can get a good one for 10k easy
So whiny over trivial things about the Abarth. Wah I can't reach both power windows.
Here in Cape Town South Africa,the Mini is so expensive to maintain or if something breaks that it's cheaper to turn it into storage space like my one friend did
How is a Mini better fuel eco if it has a combined city/hwy of 28mpg while the Abarth is 31mpg? You also said that the Mini has a smaller/tighter rear passenger space than the Abarth, plus the Abarth sounds better than the Mini according to you. Too much bias towards the Mini. BTW, I don't have a preference towards any of them since I don't own one or the other.
the abarth is slow, but it makes you feel like you're flying and about to die and that is what this is about. I hate "sensible" or "smart" hot hatches, you can't help but feel ripped off
I own one (160hp) and it does pack a punch. When you are in it, you feel like you're the fastest man alive, almost feels scary fast, it is that much fun, however. My other car, a 207 GT (150hp) pulls harder but it feels slow, that's because the power delivery is very linear and there's almost no turbo lag. Now the 207 GT isn't exactly a "fast car", it does 0-60 in 8 seconds, that was respectable for 150 hp 8 years ago, now, it is pretty average. While the Abarth does have a quicker 0-60 time, in the real world they're pretty even, that's why I think the Abarth is slow and it is for a modern hot hatch but I love it.
A 5 speed is perfect for this car. Who needs to row thru close ratios with good torque.
For all you fan boys, note that Jay Leno who is a motor head, owns a Fiat Abarath, 2012 number #2 made. I guess if you like cars with no attitude no style and is something your mom would approve of, yes get the mini.
Lets do the review by driving two sporty hatchback slowly without any drag race... Lame... And the mini cost 4k more without being a convertible...
New 2015 Abarth 595 Comp (180 bhp) vs. Mini Cooper S would be a good test
Not really. Fiat just has a terrible track record
There are a lot of mistakes that these testers are saying in this video about the 2 cars, here are a few: - you don't like the Mini's 6 speed manual ? OK. Everybody who drove it liked it...Maybe you should drive the Kenworth's one.
- 5 speed on the Fiat? So what !? Does it work? Is it split correctly, without killing the engine? Yes.
- the Fiat is loud? It's a small sporty car, it supposed to be loud...
From a car fanatic's point of view this test is worse than Tope Gear's one. At least they know something about cars...
When you put "vs" in the tittle, maybe have some actual comparisons
Minis are a dime a dozen. Gimme a red Abarth 500 any day!
I own both of these cars, a 2012 MCS and a 2015 Abarth. I enjoy both cars for different reasons, but if I had to only choose one I would lean more towards the Mini Cooper S. The Abarth eats gas like you wouldn't believe, the MPG ratings are completely off especially if you drive it in sport mode in city driving, I'm getting around 16-17 MPG tops, the only upside to the Abarth is that the tank is so small it only take $20 to fill up. Both of my cars have piggyback tunes and the Mini pulls stronger and handles much better. The Fiat has Eibach Sportlines with Koni Yellows, and the Mini has H&R sport springs on stock shocks.
Wow 16-17mpg?????
I have a Unichip and a heavy foot, and only do city driving so that could be the reason. All I know is this thing eats gas, I'm going to start paying more attention and calculating the MPG at each fill up to get it exact, but I know I'm not getting the manufacture est. MPG.
Checked the MPG today using calculator after fill up and got 20 MPG with about 25 miles of highway miles, and the rest all city driving. The cars computer said I was getting 21.7 MPG. On average, a full tank of gas will get me about 145155 miles before the gas warning light comes on.
Wow, that sucks!
lol you must drive like an ass
I feel they are downplaying the cabrio abarth option ALOT in these reviews! That car in a convertible is ALOT of F-U-N!
AutoGuide.com was this filmed in Oakville, Ontario??
Drive them like you borrowed them!
good review, but honestly, all i got here for was to se a freakin drag race between the two or something... THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANTS!!!
Abarth is like no other car.
These dull comparisons really shouldn't decide what one to own.
I've tried both but I put my order in for a new Abarth tourismo 160.
I was driving the Abarth for neraly five years. I loved it, but the overall quality was so bad. Too many parts did failure too soon. It begun after two months when it was brand new. Fiat itself may know about the missing quality: They offer a two years warranty only which means they do not trust in their own product much. Even a Suzuki Alto for half that price offers a longer warranty by far less problems...
Typical Italian car...
i did sell my Mini S Auto. 2013 for 3 weeks ago !!LOVE : Land Rover and Chevy Camaro!
Skip the Abarth500's "Cabriolet" and you'd have saved about 7k compared to a JCW Cooper S and you'll likely fall in love with the Abarth!
i love the Abarth, it's great fun to drive and I would buy one - I'm now on my second Mini which just ticks all the boxes (when you get rid of the run flats for normal tyres), a major put off for me with the Abarth was the 5 speed manual - why!.....it burns fuel on the motorway
I think they struggled to fit a 6 speed under the bonnet, as far as im aware.
i don't understand all the people saying 5 speed is bad. A lot of cars still come with 5 speed and I still see some cars around with 4! Maybe I'm in the wrong tho.
Believe men 5 speed is enough. Ive Maxed My Abarth out at 205km and it was pretty scary in such a tiny car.
Just wait till the mini breaks down right after you take in home.
+Shane Eyanson Yeah, I have a Mini I bot used, but still under warranty. Took it to the dealier several times to fix the windshield wipers, the last time after it had fallen out of warranty but the dealer said they would still fix it. They fixed the wipers (OOW) and told me I had a leaking head gasket. I hadn't even driven it 100 miles since the previous In-Warranty visit. At 100k, it is literally falling apart. I had 200k on a VW, 150K on a BMW. Mini-never again. Oh yeah...they are expensive to fix
I test drove both cars back to back and I have to say the mini seems like a more solid build, and better and more sophisticated in every way but at the end of the day I purchased the Fiat because the driving experience with far more visceral the interior cloth seating way more comfortable and the joy of driving just so much more enthusiastic. The exhaust sound is intoxicating and then 1.4 liter turbocharged engine is fantastic and snappy at all levels of the powerband over 3000 rpm. Driving around town in 3rd gear is simply addictive with the cars instantaneous throttle response pumping and gurgling and neck snapping
I wanna see Acura MDX vs Infiniti QX60 vs Audi Q7. Make it happen !!!!!!
worst review ever
Team mini 💓
Sorry but my Abarth eats minis for breakfast lunch and dinner. Much more fun to drive and it gets looks wherever I go.
I've driven an Abarth and it was fun, but I like the R53 Cooper S better, that roots supercharger gives it instant power and tons of low end torque. A friend of mine has one, a few mods and it's quick. I don't like the boost lag from turbos, the power isn't as linear. I wish Mini still used the supercharger, I can live with lower mileage.
It attracted you!
Look for a used Abarth with
I would love to have 5 speed... I hate 6 speeds. 1st is so short. And this extra 6th gear that is not any longer that 5th would be... just too much shifting. Especially for Turbo engines.
Get over that you can't use the rear mirror , there are plenty of sports cars even super cars you can't see out the back.. it's called side mirrors..
Mini Cooper = washboard suspension, dated looking, did I mention super stiff ride. Don't forget to purchase your plastic mouth guard you'll need it while driving your new Mini Cooper...
Wow only $30k for a rolling telephone booth ! I think I'll wait for the dual supercharged 400hp Smartcar
If the mini has the jcw kit, doesnt it adds more hp? Acoording to me jcw has 208 hp.
the latest Fiat Abarth starts at 22 thousand USD the latest Mini Cooper starts at almost 24 thousand ($23,600 to be exact) the Fiat has 160 Hp and 170 Lb-Ft torque while the mini has 189Hp and the same 170 LB-ft torque the mini is bigger but the Fiat is definitely louder and the mini has a harder ride but you have more customization choices (from the dealer) with the mini I love both and would own ether but If I was told to go buy one I'd probably buy the mini because I want racing stripes lol
Also my 2008 Charger has only a 4 speed with a 2.7 V6. I'm saving up for a V8 Challenger.
see ya at the gas station. ;-)
why did u not use a John cooper works ?
5 speeds are sometimes preferred though...
5:21 whats wrong with a good reach around?
"Kidney jarring ride"??? Out of their minds. My mini s is so smooth
Where is the drag race?
I have a Fiat Abarth and I am WAY more unique than any Mini Cooper that I've seen. These guys were completely biased against Italian racing. (Side note: If a Ferrari and a Vespa had a baby, the Fiat would be their baby. Just sayin'.) The Cooper is neat - yes - but it's no Abarth. ;-)
Funny how expensive they are but you could pick up a old supercharged mini for about 3k and it will smash both them cars in speed and corners and acceleration
The Fiat Looks like a PC Mouse with wheels
And the Mini looks like a supermarket cart.
I actually like both cars the mini being the "prettier" of the two but I am biased since I own a mini.
NICE 2013 MINI Cooper S vs. 2013 Fiat 500c Abarth
Both cars are for people who want a 3rd or 4th car. Something to drive for shits & giggles. But I'd go with the Mini.
I may or may not have a 2006 as my main vehicle.... Lets just say I don't need to move much of anything, ever. I work on computers in the city and I wanted something small and sporty.
Every gen of mini was subject to unique set of "routine" repairs. Up to 2012. One I recalled needed wood chip smoke to loosen up part of the car..... Was it the engine?!!
The trouble is, the actual direct comparison would Fiat 500 Abarth v MINI JCW. Those are the brand leaders for both. In which case.... All the Fiat would see is nothing as the JCW rockets into the sunset. Winner - MINI.
Hermano, You Wrong. 28mpg for cooper vs 31mpg for 500 thats what you guys said at 2:30min at the end you said mini gets better fuel than 500. can you explain to us why the contradiction.
You in the Fiat. Get out of the gene pool.
That car is the last shred of what the auto industry is able to pump out good clean fun.
It's simple designed interior no spaceship controls like most cars. The entire front and rear have new fascia from the regular 500. And ya it has a 5 speed because #TRACKDAYBRO
Let alone you roll up to any car show/meet/cars and coffee and you're instantly everyone's attention because it is a fun/fast/quirky Italian rocket.
Mini's are everywhere and fade into the background with all the Camaro, Corvette, Camrys, Corollas, Hondas and Nissans. Get real Auto Guide.
Do a proper down to earth review.Instead of being like Motortrend and feeding off the sheep who will buy up anything you tell them.
The abarth sound a lot like an e46 m3 imo
As usual in comparisons, they always neglect to mention the reliability problems with all Minis. And just wait until you get that repair bill. Hope you are sitting down in your Mini when you get it!
Oh hell yeah my mother had a cooper S turbo broke to pieces needed full replacement engine troubles advert few months constantly getting repaired people tend to forget you buy a mini parts are going to be as expensive to replace/fix as a bmw since it uses bmw parts lmao
I know i shouldnt get the mini cooper its just ever time I take a look at it i am just left breathless something about the anterior just gets me oh and dont get me started on the convertible