They legitimately "accidentally" made Overwatch 1 the most fun shooter in the last decade, because the last 7 years have proved that they have no clue on how to keep the game balanced AND fun.
OW Dev team/Blizzard accept a mistake only when they can pin the blame on someone else. Be it Bobby or older devs or the players or 'nostalgia'. Anything but the current team.
Team 4 completely failed in their mission statement from before OW2's launch, said it was all part of the plan, then walked it back and said the new philosophy is "do what OW1 did". We have run in one giant circle. We are back at the very beginning.
Old blizzard: we want to make a great game and make it fun New blizzard:we are gonna try so hard to become greedier than EA and we want the game to be about buying skins and battlepass
I think the problem is Blizzard is just a very arrogant company in general. This is not just overwatch, but all of their properties as well, they do not respect their customers and think they always know better. What is funny is the fact that they really do not have the track record to back that arrogance up considering the complete trash fire that has been all of their games and their company reputation over the past decade. They cannot admit when they are wrong, when they make terrible decisions, when the communities of their games know better than they do etc. Just a general sense of arrogance and "we know better than you peasants" surrounds their philosophy and treatment of their games. If Overwatch is to survive, this needs to be called out. Because we and pretty much everyone else in the entire gaming community can see it plain as day. They are incompetent. And nothing will change until we just say it for what it is rather than trying to shill or be quiet about the whole thing. The overwatch content creator scene is pathetic, because all the people who originally had the balls to say anything have all left or given up trying. This entire culture of "play nice" has to go away. Blizzard does not care. And they have to be held accountable. "Playing nice" does not work with them and evidence shows this.
I agree with you but some of these content creators paycheck relies on playing this game… I am aware that when person is serious enough they will make a change. But just trying to see it from their perspective.
When you hear the word "philosophy" from a game dev, know that it's all napkin ideas with very short future. In world of warcraft for example (another blizz game), their philosophy changes every single expansion (every 2 years). It's a coping word to make everything sound fancy, when they don't have anything set and stone. Hope more people are aware of this. Armor packs were cool.
I think the biggest issue is honestly pride. They really don't want to have other people fix "their" game. On top of greedy execs wanting to push some of the most egregiously predatory monetization I've ever seen they just straight up can't bring themselves to admitting they made several mistakes and that the community knows what's right. This isn't the only dev team that's like that either. There's several teams across several live service games that seem to suffer from this debilitating hubris. It's wild
Goodob nerfing susu on shatter blizzard but i thing they forgot graviton surge, gravitic flux, dva bomb, orisa ult, Meteor Strike, high noon, dragons, dragon blade, overclock, pulse bomb, death blossom etc etc Great video btw
They want strategic hero switching but only know how to incentivize it through hard counters. If an OTP is playable in all situations, no need to swap. Part of their random the game is now competitive v. play the heros you like. Also allows them to "shake up" metas by shifting power levels. Its not complicated just very hard and poorly communicated. Also, more heros played probably leads to more skin purchases...
Blizzard: "we want strategic hero swapping" Also Blizzard: "Heroes hard counter each other with one-press buttons that require no aim. Isn't this what you all wanted? Isn't this sTrATegIc??"
This suggestion comes from the current creator patch and previous creator patches in the past that have been overall not a bad addition at all. Blizzard clearly can't/won't do it so somebody has to do it.
The difference in Gaming now and Gaming then, was these companies WERE small businesses filled with employees that not only worked well together and got along, but they created products that they LOVED. they didn’t mind putting in extra hours to make sure the game was perfect. How can someone make something so great when they don’t love or even like what they are making? The devs should be people that want to make overwatch 2 fun not only so they can make a paycheck, but so they can smile at their product…
I know it can be hard, but I think it's best to let the game die in peace, I stopped playing in the second season after more than 600 hours in overwatch 1, it was hard, but there's no point.
As long as people continue to stream and play the game they dont care about the state of it...they will likely see videos like this and only think, "hey at least they still play it". They dont care hiw fun it is.
Blizzard with any minor change: how can we monetize this to the maxxx Blizzard with the actual game itself: fuck monetization lets leave it a hellhole for 2 years cus pride and stuff
For me, the snowballing is more of an uphill battle now because I can't get a pick to stop the enemy teams momentum so it just looks even more one sided, which is crazy because snowballing was already a huge problem for ow2 and they basically just exacerbated it with all these hp and hit box changes. If they can lower the time to kill, it would enable skilled players to turn the tides of a match much more often. I don't know how we got here, it's absurd to say the least, but I'd love to revert back to the old hp and hit box changes and see what the game would look like in a lower time to kill environment, it feels like cave diving where you go so far down and then get stuck and you don't have enough room to turn around so you're just stuck, not a great feeling
Caveat being I go on widow who I have 600 hours on and get picks that way, but who wants to play widow when they made it easier for her to get headshots because of the hit box changes, crushed the gameplay loop on widow for me
Honestly I’m all here for the condescension at this point lol “we know at this point you’re not going to be the bigger person and own up to your failure so let’s meet in the middle and just let us do it for you”
The ability to talk about a subject and provide absolute no value to the conversation for 1h30 minutes amazes me How can Spilo endure this without screaming at Alec about what tf did he do?
Sounds like this one is on you for trying to understand the logic behind Blizzard's decisions. There is no logic and it's all random because Blizzard doesn't know what to do with this game. You asked for this, my man.
From back when I played hs I can’t recall what Alec’s role was. But if it was balance it was atrocious especially UiS Edit: he was lead game designer during united in stormwind. They guy is not to be trusted with balance
Well when it comes to balancing characters based on the shop, I have noticed that with other heroes. Rein was not the first to recieve favors when it comes to selling skins for said charactor. Thank you for the video. I really love the Street fighter 5 music as it fits the situation. Like when Capcom neglected the game in the beginning before turning things around with arcade addition. I hope Blizz does that with Overwatch 2.
As a support main, I am genuinely tired of dps supports getting pandered to. They just gut Ana into being just an Anti nade bot. Her stats are awful, shes no longer a main healer. And they have nerfed everything besides Anti, which is the actual problem. Instead of reworking anti or making it weaker vs tank, they made any tank that can shrug off anti just run her over due her stats being lower than Moira. Meanwhile, they buff pylon and only nerf Suzu to make Rein's weapon actually sell well. You know, the healing Cassidy and the character who was meta since the official release of OW2.
I have not uninstalled, but I certainly have stopped playing. It has been 3 months now since my last game. I can tell you I am happy now after I have stopped caring about how broken is the game. These days all I do is watch rant videos to get a laugh and continue to not care about the game. I feel sad for the players though. Ty for the content and wishing the best of luck to all those who are still playing through this painful experience.
Honestly idk why you don’t like forcing out 3 bubbles from a Zarya that is also melting u with a lazzer or dealing 2k dmg to a hog in one fight and he’s still sitting pretty at 400hp or trying to kill mauga while he has “e” up or when his “e” is on a squishy and they can now tank a pulse bomb because yeah fun immortality abilities shouldn’t be limited too the support role I guess... speaking of immortality can I introduce orisa she’s shit now but give it two more seasons as the devs are getting restless. They just want that golden 50% none mirrored tank win rate. Also I personally love getting into a god honest 1v1 with another dps.... just to have a kirko poof into existence and suzu the ground. SO FUN AND INTERACTIVE. MUCH COUNTER PLAY. JUST DONT TAKE A DUEL EVER. ITS THE OVERWATCH 1 I LOVE AND REMEMBER.
I’m deeply interested in how Blizzard feels with this widespread of videos that are just basically shitting on the poor management they’ve had on this game for years now. At one point can they stop ignoring this and address actual CORE issues this game has, especially with this 5v5 format.
Some of those burns were awesome lol. Also if they haven't changed from ow1 if some creators are to be believed then their behavior in ow2 solidifies that? Also armor packs on torb made him feel more active lol. Also level 3 turret was a menace
I never once believed that they where trying to remove hard counters, the original post was made when they announced heroes would be in the bp and this was their attempt at easing the fears that doing so would make the game P2W. (Bear in mind the first bp hero was kiriko, yes ow1 players got her for free but new players didnt) which means the first hero they released under the new, no hard counter philosophy was a character with an ability designed to hard counter heroes that inflict negative effects. Aka Ana, JQ, any hero with a cc. They failed this new philosophy at the first hurdle. And it came back to bite them when they dropped mauga on us and you had GM's leaving comp games to buy the BP so they could use him.
I have a suggestion people may or may not have already made, an Overwatch movement. Like what Team Fortress 2 has been doing twice now. We can set up preparations and start it whenever we see fit.
Honestly I think OW2 is still in a better state where it doesn't really need that kind of movement. Yeah we don't get all the changes we want but the game isn't obviously abandoned like TF2, there are still regular and frequent changes, and the devs are at least somewhat in touch with the community, though perhaps not the right parts of the community. I think if enough people's opinions can be changed then OW2 will start improving gradually, but as of now the average/lowest common denominator of players just have no idea what they are talking about which is why bad changes keep getting made.
@tau-5794 Like the bloody 5v5ers. We need to bring back 6v6, it's unnegotiable. Tell me, why are players so lost on how to keep a good game? And two, if that's the case, when are most people going to wake up? Because things need to change permanently soon because, for the first time, Overwatch is getting actual competition that will kill it with Marvel Rivals.
@Multi1 5v5 could work if, like I saw in a recent video, there were 5 roles that split up some of the heroes that don't fit well into roles like the tank or dps role. The 5 roles proposed were: Main tank, defense, dps, main support, and flex. Main tank was heroes like Rein, Orisa, and Winston, which would keep their large health pools and be focused around survivability and taking space. Defense would be a mix of tanks and dps like Hog, Dva, Bastion, and Reaper who would have the job of reinforcing the tank's offense and holding a position. DPS would be mostly the current dps heroes who get most of their value from their primary fire instead of cooldowns, like Soldier, Tracer, and Sojourn. Main supports would be generally AOE healing supports with middling damage and good survivability like Mercy, Brig, and Moira. Flex would be the more generalist supports with a focus on damage and high value abilities like Zen, Baptiste, and Kiriko. Instead of having 5 queues there would only be one, and then as soon as you got into a game you could pick one hero from a role then be locked into that role, like how custom/arcade modes can lock people into roles instead of being open queue.
@@tau-5794 Honestly, whoever idiots at Blizzard decided to do 5v5 made more work for themselves than ever. The single worst decision that was even made to Overwatch. I see it as counter-intuitive to continue with 5v5 because it will require so much work and still may not be as good as 6v6 and Overwatch 1. Like really, all of this overhauling fundamental aspects of the game because of 5v5 should have never happened. Microsoft should absolutely just revert back to 6v6. I feel like after the massive failure of OW2 they are going to reflect on the entire IP and see what went wrong. So no, I don't think that's the solution. PS: #Revive6v6, heroes will never die.
@tau-5794 Another thing, the dev team and or execs is clearly dumb as rocks and knows what they are doing is not working, but they keep trying the same methodology anyway. Which is what insanity is. It's partly the community's fault, but it's more so the devs and or the execs faults because they should know who to listen to. So I disagree that it's mostly the community's fault. They are the ones that pushed for 5v5 in the first place when nobody, community-wise, told them to do it. And now look where we are, I hear so many people complaining and even leaving Overwatch. I don't know if you realized this, but Overwatch could have been the next Fortnite, the next biggest mainstream game in the world.
Love the commentary and your voice, but i personally find the subtitles pretty distracting. Great video though, these videos and points need to keep being made so blizzard actually does something about their game.
its baffling to me how when they wrote the patch notes undoing the sigma ult change that was extremely cancer, they didn't say it was bad. They in fact said the opposite. this is a paraphrase of course but it was in essence "we will come back to this change when you all forget and stop complaining." the level of arrogance required to not only think that but to actually communicate it to the playerbase should just get you blacklisted from the industry as a whole. incompetence is the goal of team 4
The main issue I face in ranked and mostly for everyone is counter picking. Recently I’ve been playing Winston and everytime they see me play Winston they automatically switch to reaper bastion and orisa. And the amount of people who autolock or swap to mauga is insane. Mauga is literally unkillable most of the time especially if they have a mercy pocket, zen or have a bastion and when I try to counter with sigma or dva their dps just goes sym or reaper. And most of my dps want to be one tricks and don’t switch. The fact that blizzard still hasn’t touched mauga is insane even when they did it barely did anything. I want to know why they even decided to make mauga Edit: And kirko needs to be nerfed in my humble opinion I still think susu is broken it’s 20 abilities in one and it’s so annoying to deal with she can tp and make her team immortal basically I think u should get rid of the immortality and buff the healing maybe idk really know a better solution. I just think we have too many healers with a “get out of jail free card” like zen ult, lamp, susu and hot take but sometimes Moria ult the whole immortality thing is cool but if they keep making to where every character has it it’ll get annoying
Tbf Alec and Jared both just deflect problems into insults on people who try to talk about them and how they might be solved, and they have even wholesome CCs like Eskay joining in now (but on an even more extreme level) :(
I was wondering how this guy was able to roast Blizzard so hard oh he's a small RUclipsr of course. The big ones don't have the balls other than Samito
The community balance patch has made me so upset because of how good the changes are. Heroes that have seemed unbalancable dead OW 1 relics like Rien,Hanzo, and Mercy were made new and engaging in a single patch. Yes it wasn't perfect, like dumpstering Hog and Sym, making Torb overtuned ect. But the community patch is tne best Overwatch I have played since season 3 of OW 2. Even the que times were fixed with flex que forced 1 2 2 The fact that the content creators were able to make such an amazing patch with only one opportunity is embarrassing, and I can only hope that some of the changes may make it into the live game. It would be amazing if they went back to 6v6. Or made the 6v6 community balance custom game mode become a live arcade mode for a season.
You cant leave overtuned heroes in the game and then release new heroes who are balanced, because guess what? The balanced heroes wont be picked. Why would I play ana other than because I'm an ana main when I can play kiri and win? Why play junkrat when I can play phara and win? Why play rein when I can play mauga and win?
No, no and 100% no... I do not want the top streamers/youtubers to touch this game. The biggest ones are already bouncing on team 4's shaboinker. Give it to the pros to balance + Samito.
Imagine how great it would be if in season 12 they announced the custom game mode was coming to arcade. The work is already done. It can be as simple as CNTRL C, CNTRL V with some art overhauls to make it official
Blizz is only looking to make a profit now, they do not care about the game. If 5v5 keep turning a profit they will keep pushing this terrible game along
I just don't understand what they are doing theyve had years to work on the game. There's not really any new content so they're not working on that, the balance patches shouldn't take this long to work on so they arent working on that, they must just only be working on 30 dollar skins
I don’t know if you remember me but i told you to have the microphone closer before and you told me to check your new videos, the audio now is really excellent, thank you for improving it, i enjoy listening to you talking
It would help if you spoke as if you were talking to someone that doesn’t know the history. Speak like you’re teaching. Bc I play a lot of overwatch and I still have a hard time trying to follow you on this. Sometimes I just didn’t know what you were referring to. Vague comments etc
I am not a fan of Blizzard but let me get this straight - You're mad at Blizzard because they tried to do something different and they realised it didnt work so now they're changing back to what might work so people keep spending money on their game? If the real issue is that they didn't tell you specifically they were wrong and now they are changing back, I challenge you to name me 3 gaming companies, heck ANY 3 companies that do this.
you should show the actual clip instead of just hoping people trust your short summary of what was said, you didnt even link the video or state the section name, its a hour long video that you would need to watch to get full context because you didn't just show the clip. Also why would changing their minds about balance even be a issue? you want them to just keep doing what they were doing because 2 years ago they said something about their current balance philosophy, you even say they should change how they approach balance.
I bestow to this video the highest honor I can give it, I shall watch this while i eat my lunch!
I just watched eating my luch too lol
They legitimately "accidentally" made Overwatch 1 the most fun shooter in the last decade, because the last 7 years have proved that they have no clue on how to keep the game balanced AND fun.
OW Dev team/Blizzard accept a mistake only when they can pin the blame on someone else. Be it Bobby or older devs or the players or 'nostalgia'. Anything but the current team.
Overwatch feels like that one friend everyone thought would end up a billionaire and finding him in a gutter
Team 4 completely failed in their mission statement from before OW2's launch, said it was all part of the plan, then walked it back and said the new philosophy is "do what OW1 did". We have run in one giant circle. We are back at the very beginning.
No we are not at the beginning. The beginning was SO much better than what we have now. That’s an insult to the beginning of ow tbh.
@@ghoullyy Yeah. It's a Reversed Hero's Journey. We're back at the beginning but shittier.
@@thegrayyernaut ): yep 😔
Old blizzard: we want to make a great game and make it fun
New blizzard:we are gonna try so hard to become greedier than EA and we want the game to be about buying skins and battlepass
I think the problem is Blizzard is just a very arrogant company in general. This is not just overwatch, but all of their properties as well, they do not respect their customers and think they always know better. What is funny is the fact that they really do not have the track record to back that arrogance up considering the complete trash fire that has been all of their games and their company reputation over the past decade. They cannot admit when they are wrong, when they make terrible decisions, when the communities of their games know better than they do etc. Just a general sense of arrogance and "we know better than you peasants" surrounds their philosophy and treatment of their games. If Overwatch is to survive, this needs to be called out. Because we and pretty much everyone else in the entire gaming community can see it plain as day. They are incompetent. And nothing will change until we just say it for what it is rather than trying to shill or be quiet about the whole thing. The overwatch content creator scene is pathetic, because all the people who originally had the balls to say anything have all left or given up trying. This entire culture of "play nice" has to go away. Blizzard does not care. And they have to be held accountable. "Playing nice" does not work with them and evidence shows this.
I agree with you but some of these content creators paycheck relies on playing this game… I am aware that when person is serious enough they will make a change. But just trying to see it from their perspective.
When you hear the word "philosophy" from a game dev, know that it's all napkin ideas with very short future. In world of warcraft for example (another blizz game), their philosophy changes every single expansion (every 2 years). It's a coping word to make everything sound fancy, when they don't have anything set and stone. Hope more people are aware of this.
Armor packs were cool.
Gave torb something extra to do and the collecting scraps too. Forced him to move if he wanted extra stuff
And freedo has the GHAUL to call the 6v6ers goal post movers
The IMPUDENCE! The AUDACITY! The UNMITIGATED GALL!
Freedo is a massive thickass goalpost himself
Freedo is delulu. Always has been.
I have an idea we all need to uninstall the game, so they are forced to reevaluate their actions. 😮
If only people were willing to pull such a move,but it never happens in any game.They would rather play and complain i guess
Exactly
i did back in season 1-4 the devs will not learn about it, they're too stubborn
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad you need a substantial amount of people not a few
It's OK to give up on a dead-end of a game 🫡 that's genuinely and perfectly healthy.
Yes King! #bringbackarmourpacksfortorbjorn
Add to that #bringbackturretult
Somebody gets it!
Why? because they think we're too stupid to notice THEIR OWN contradictions.
I think the biggest issue is honestly pride. They really don't want to have other people fix "their" game. On top of greedy execs wanting to push some of the most egregiously predatory monetization I've ever seen they just straight up can't bring themselves to admitting they made several mistakes and that the community knows what's right. This isn't the only dev team that's like that either. There's several teams across several live service games that seem to suffer from this debilitating hubris. It's wild
Goodob nerfing susu on shatter blizzard but i thing they forgot graviton surge, gravitic flux, dva bomb, orisa ult, Meteor Strike, high noon, dragons, dragon blade, overclock, pulse bomb, death blossom etc etc
Great video btw
When those heroes get custom weapons they want to sell, they will consider nerfing
Busting out MGS theme in the background is OP. Your arguments in that section became at least 7x stronger.
Hey! Somebody gets it!!
They want strategic hero switching but only know how to incentivize it through hard counters. If an OTP is playable in all situations, no need to swap. Part of their random the game is now competitive v. play the heros you like. Also allows them to "shake up" metas by shifting power levels. Its not complicated just very hard and poorly communicated. Also, more heros played probably leads to more skin purchases...
Blizzard: "we want strategic hero swapping"
Also Blizzard: "Heroes hard counter each other with one-press buttons that require no aim. Isn't this what you all wanted? Isn't this sTrATegIc??"
Content creators do not need to be in charge of balance. Their bias is strong with the arcade mode
This suggestion comes from the current creator patch and previous creator patches in the past that have been overall not a bad addition at all. Blizzard clearly can't/won't do it so somebody has to do it.
I dig the SFV menu music 😊
😉
This game is so bad that the community makes their own patches..
Facts. Have you tried the 6v6 creator code yet? I'll be hosting 6v6 pug games on the weekends starting soon.
@@shadezOW I don’t play this game anymore. Maybe I’ll try with the code. If they reset this game back to Day 1: Release Overwatch, I’d play.
When you shattered that corner in the background footage, I could only think of how that was a Big Slam.
Look...........sometimes..........you know.......stuff. You know what I mean?
5:03 that rein went back to narnia with that sleep/pin combo hehehe
He got the lovely tank experience.
The difference in Gaming now and Gaming then, was these companies WERE small businesses filled with employees that not only worked well together and got along, but they created products that they LOVED. they didn’t mind putting in extra hours to make sure the game was perfect. How can someone make something so great when they don’t love or even like what they are making? The devs should be people that want to make overwatch 2 fun not only so they can make a paycheck, but so they can smile at their product…
I know it can be hard, but I think it's best to let the game die in peace, I stopped playing in the second season after more than 600 hours in overwatch 1, it was hard, but there's no point.
Unfortunately, before the game becomes great again it will have to fail. This is my new viewpoint of this game.
literally my exact feelings.
*sips tea*
the tea is exceptionally good today.
tf was goin down at the start gang
Aye listen........I have no response I was just there.
As long as people continue to stream and play the game they dont care about the state of it...they will likely see videos like this and only think, "hey at least they still play it". They dont care hiw fun it is.
Excellent video ♥ mmmm picking up that scrap 😊 , good times
Blizzard with any minor change: how can we monetize this to the maxxx
Blizzard with the actual game itself: fuck monetization lets leave it a hellhole for 2 years cus pride and stuff
sams finna watch this i bet. good vid lebronzo
Let me know if he does.
For me, the snowballing is more of an uphill battle now because I can't get a pick to stop the enemy teams momentum so it just looks even more one sided, which is crazy because snowballing was already a huge problem for ow2 and they basically just exacerbated it with all these hp and hit box changes. If they can lower the time to kill, it would enable skilled players to turn the tides of a match much more often. I don't know how we got here, it's absurd to say the least, but I'd love to revert back to the old hp and hit box changes and see what the game would look like in a lower time to kill environment, it feels like cave diving where you go so far down and then get stuck and you don't have enough room to turn around so you're just stuck, not a great feeling
Caveat being I go on widow who I have 600 hours on and get picks that way, but who wants to play widow when they made it easier for her to get headshots because of the hit box changes, crushed the gameplay loop on widow for me
Did that Ana Nod and accept her death 😂😂😂
Honestly I’m all here for the condescension at this point lol “we know at this point you’re not going to be the bigger person and own up to your failure so let’s meet in the middle and just let us do it for you”
I can't wait for you guys to move on from this game. Play other games until they fix the problems. Until then, OW2 will remain deleted.
I will most likely move onto Marvel Rivals if I do move on that is.
The ability to talk about a subject and provide absolute no value to the conversation for 1h30 minutes amazes me
How can Spilo endure this without screaming at Alec about what tf did he do?
No shade to Spilo what so ever but I absolutely agree
Sounds like this one is on you for trying to understand the logic behind Blizzard's decisions. There is no logic and it's all random because Blizzard doesn't know what to do with this game. You asked for this, my man.
Accountability is kryptonite on the internet, I know.
From back when I played hs I can’t recall what Alec’s role was. But if it was balance it was atrocious especially UiS
Edit: he was lead game designer during united in stormwind. They guy is not to be trusted with balance
Also good video
Well when it comes to balancing characters based on the shop, I have noticed that with other heroes.
Rein was not the first to recieve favors when it comes to selling skins for said charactor.
Thank you for the video.
I really love the Street fighter 5 music as it fits the situation. Like when Capcom neglected the game in the beginning before turning things around with arcade addition. I hope Blizz does that with Overwatch 2.
As a support main, I am genuinely tired of dps supports getting pandered to.
They just gut Ana into being just an Anti nade bot. Her stats are awful, shes no longer a main healer. And they have nerfed everything besides Anti, which is the actual problem. Instead of reworking anti or making it weaker vs tank, they made any tank that can shrug off anti just run her over due her stats being lower than Moira.
Meanwhile, they buff pylon and only nerf Suzu to make Rein's weapon actually sell well. You know, the healing Cassidy and the character who was meta since the official release of OW2.
dam does it ttake awhile to do the subtitles with the highlight effect?
No, not really. It did at first, but I won't be adding them for any of my future videos. Only in shorts now.
We need Armor Packs and Souls back!
I have not uninstalled, but I certainly have stopped playing. It has been 3 months now since my last game. I can tell you I am happy now after I have stopped caring about how broken is the game. These days all I do is watch rant videos to get a laugh and continue to not care about the game. I feel sad for the players though. Ty for the content and wishing the best of luck to all those who are still playing through this painful experience.
I like the way you talk even tho its a lil boring but i still like it way too much idk why 😂😂
😂😂 thank you? I’m trying to find a way to make my rants more entertaining. Any suggestions?
@@shadezOW idrk i like them this way
Ow2 is still a beta. It is not a finished game. No debate
Honestly idk why you don’t like forcing out 3 bubbles from a Zarya that is also melting u with a lazzer or dealing 2k dmg to a hog in one fight and he’s still sitting pretty at 400hp or trying to kill mauga while he has “e” up or when his “e” is on a squishy and they can now tank a pulse bomb because yeah fun immortality abilities shouldn’t be limited too the support role I guess... speaking of immortality can I introduce orisa she’s shit now but give it two more seasons as the devs are getting restless. They just want that golden 50% none mirrored tank win rate. Also I personally love getting into a god honest 1v1 with another dps.... just to have a kirko poof into existence and suzu the ground. SO FUN AND INTERACTIVE. MUCH COUNTER PLAY. JUST DONT TAKE A DUEL EVER. ITS THE OVERWATCH 1 I LOVE AND REMEMBER.
I’m deeply interested in how Blizzard feels with this widespread of videos that are just basically shitting on the poor management they’ve had on this game for years now. At one point can they stop ignoring this and address actual CORE issues this game has, especially with this 5v5 format.
Their balance team thinks that changing numbers in characters blueprints is good enough and that’s what “balance” means
A game will NEVER be balanced, but it can be fun
Isn't the Wayback machine made for stuff like this?
Some of those burns were awesome lol. Also if they haven't changed from ow1 if some creators are to be believed then their behavior in ow2 solidifies that? Also armor packs on torb made him feel more active lol. Also level 3 turret was a menace
I never once believed that they where trying to remove hard counters, the original post was made when they announced heroes would be in the bp and this was their attempt at easing the fears that doing so would make the game P2W. (Bear in mind the first bp hero was kiriko, yes ow1 players got her for free but new players didnt) which means the first hero they released under the new, no hard counter philosophy was a character with an ability designed to hard counter heroes that inflict negative effects. Aka Ana, JQ, any hero with a cc. They failed this new philosophy at the first hurdle. And it came back to bite them when they dropped mauga on us and you had GM's leaving comp games to buy the BP so they could use him.
I have a suggestion people may or may not have already made, an Overwatch movement. Like what Team Fortress 2 has been doing twice now. We can set up preparations and start it whenever we see fit.
Honestly I think OW2 is still in a better state where it doesn't really need that kind of movement. Yeah we don't get all the changes we want but the game isn't obviously abandoned like TF2, there are still regular and frequent changes, and the devs are at least somewhat in touch with the community, though perhaps not the right parts of the community. I think if enough people's opinions can be changed then OW2 will start improving gradually, but as of now the average/lowest common denominator of players just have no idea what they are talking about which is why bad changes keep getting made.
@tau-5794 Like the bloody 5v5ers. We need to bring back 6v6, it's unnegotiable. Tell me, why are players so lost on how to keep a good game? And two, if that's the case, when are most people going to wake up? Because things need to change permanently soon because, for the first time, Overwatch is getting actual competition that will kill it with Marvel Rivals.
@Multi1 5v5 could work if, like I saw in a recent video, there were 5 roles that split up some of the heroes that don't fit well into roles like the tank or dps role.
The 5 roles proposed were: Main tank, defense, dps, main support, and flex.
Main tank was heroes like Rein, Orisa, and Winston, which would keep their large health pools and be focused around survivability and taking space.
Defense would be a mix of tanks and dps like Hog, Dva, Bastion, and Reaper who would have the job of reinforcing the tank's offense and holding a position.
DPS would be mostly the current dps heroes who get most of their value from their primary fire instead of cooldowns, like Soldier, Tracer, and Sojourn.
Main supports would be generally AOE healing supports with middling damage and good survivability like Mercy, Brig, and Moira.
Flex would be the more generalist supports with a focus on damage and high value abilities like Zen, Baptiste, and Kiriko.
Instead of having 5 queues there would only be one, and then as soon as you got into a game you could pick one hero from a role then be locked into that role, like how custom/arcade modes can lock people into roles instead of being open queue.
@@tau-5794 Honestly, whoever idiots at Blizzard decided to do 5v5 made more work for themselves than ever. The single worst decision that was even made to Overwatch. I see it as counter-intuitive to continue with 5v5 because it will require so much work and still may not be as good as 6v6 and Overwatch 1. Like really, all of this overhauling fundamental aspects of the game because of 5v5 should have never happened. Microsoft should absolutely just revert back to 6v6. I feel like after the massive failure of OW2 they are going to reflect on the entire IP and see what went wrong. So no, I don't think that's the solution.
PS: #Revive6v6, heroes will never die.
@tau-5794 Another thing, the dev team and or execs is clearly dumb as rocks and knows what they are doing is not working, but they keep trying the same methodology anyway. Which is what insanity is. It's partly the community's fault, but it's more so the devs and or the execs faults because they should know who to listen to. So I disagree that it's mostly the community's fault. They are the ones that pushed for 5v5 in the first place when nobody, community-wise, told them to do it.
And now look where we are, I hear so many people complaining and even leaving Overwatch. I don't know if you realized this, but Overwatch could have been the next Fortnite, the next biggest mainstream game in the world.
They have to realize this is the least played season by far because everyone is just fed up. Competition is going to put this game in the grave
I love this rein gameplay! So damn solid 🙌
Thank you so much.
Love the commentary and your voice, but i personally find the subtitles pretty distracting. Great video though, these videos and points need to keep being made so blizzard actually does something about their game.
its baffling to me how when they wrote the patch notes undoing the sigma ult change that was extremely cancer, they didn't say it was bad. They in fact said the opposite. this is a paraphrase of course but it was in essence "we will come back to this change when you all forget and stop complaining." the level of arrogance required to not only think that but to actually communicate it to the playerbase should just get you blacklisted from the industry as a whole. incompetence is the goal of team 4
The main issue I face in ranked and mostly for everyone is counter picking. Recently I’ve been playing Winston and everytime they see me play Winston they automatically switch to reaper bastion and orisa. And the amount of people who autolock or swap to mauga is insane. Mauga is literally unkillable most of the time especially if they have a mercy pocket, zen or have a bastion and when I try to counter with sigma or dva their dps just goes sym or reaper. And most of my dps want to be one tricks and don’t switch. The fact that blizzard still hasn’t touched mauga is insane even when they did it barely did anything. I want to know why they even decided to make mauga
Edit: And kirko needs to be nerfed in my humble opinion I still think susu is broken it’s 20 abilities in one and it’s so annoying to deal with she can tp and make her team immortal basically I think u should get rid of the immortality and buff the healing maybe idk really know a better solution. I just think we have too many healers with a “get out of jail free card” like zen ult, lamp, susu and hot take but sometimes Moria ult the whole immortality thing is cool but if they keep making to where every character has it it’ll get annoying
Borderlands 3 available for free on PS Plus. Just play that instead of OW2 until next season.
Good looking out for everyone!
Tbf Alec and Jared both just deflect problems into insults on people who try to talk about them and how they might be solved, and they have even wholesome CCs like Eskay joining in now (but on an even more extreme level) :(
Man is it refreshing to see everyone calling out blizzard
We’ve been doing that for years. From content creators to pros to the gold players.
Blizzard. Does. Not. Listen.
I was wondering how this guy was able to roast Blizzard so hard oh he's a small RUclipsr of course. The big ones don't have the balls other than Samito
I won't change even as I grow. I'm not on their payroll. I want the game great again.
The streamers are likely making more money streaming Overwatch than the developers who are balancing it.
The community balance patch has made me so upset because of how good the changes are. Heroes that have seemed unbalancable dead OW 1 relics like Rien,Hanzo, and Mercy were made new and engaging in a single patch.
Yes it wasn't perfect, like dumpstering Hog and Sym, making Torb overtuned ect. But the community patch is tne best Overwatch I have played since season 3 of OW 2.
Even the que times were fixed with flex que forced 1 2 2
The fact that the content creators were able to make such an amazing patch with only one opportunity is embarrassing, and I can only hope that some of the changes may make it into the live game.
It would be amazing if they went back to 6v6. Or made the 6v6 community balance custom game mode become a live arcade mode for a season.
GUYS WTF WERE BLIZZARD THINKING WHEN THEY MADE MAUGA ?
You cant leave overtuned heroes in the game and then release new heroes who are balanced, because guess what? The balanced heroes wont be picked. Why would I play ana other than because I'm an ana main when I can play kiri and win? Why play junkrat when I can play phara and win? Why play rein when I can play mauga and win?
No, no and 100% no... I do not want the top streamers/youtubers to touch this game. The biggest ones are already bouncing on team 4's shaboinker. Give it to the pros to balance + Samito.
Imagine how great it would be if in season 12 they announced the custom game mode was coming to arcade. The work is already done. It can be as simple as CNTRL C, CNTRL V with some art overhauls to make it official
Blizz is only looking to make a profit now, they do not care about the game. If 5v5 keep turning a profit they will keep pushing this terrible game along
11:00 Is that sf5 ken background music?
So uhhhh how you feeling today?😂😂
I'm pissed
Good video man🎉
Thank you so much. I appreciate your kind words!
They wont ever chang . So what will happen is Marvel Rivals comes out and take all there playerbase thats it
What program do you use to do your subtitles?
I just don't understand what they are doing theyve had years to work on the game. There's not really any new content so they're not working on that, the balance patches shouldn't take this long to work on so they arent working on that, they must just only be working on 30 dollar skins
Better then the ow1 team but they still make stupid mistakes and sometimes the same mistakes
I don’t know if you remember me but i told you to have the microphone closer before and you told me to check your new videos, the audio now is really excellent, thank you for improving it, i enjoy listening to you talking
It would help if you spoke as if you were talking to someone that doesn’t know the history. Speak like you’re teaching.
Bc I play a lot of overwatch and I still have a hard time trying to follow you on this. Sometimes I just didn’t know what you were referring to. Vague comments etc
@@ConciseCabbage Thank you. I’ll do that going forward, speaking as if someone new is viewing.
I am not a fan of Blizzard but let me get this straight - You're mad at Blizzard because they tried to do something different and they realised it didnt work so now they're changing back to what might work so people keep spending money on their game?
If the real issue is that they didn't tell you specifically they were wrong and now they are changing back, I challenge you to name me 3 gaming companies, heck ANY 3 companies that do this.
Deleted the game and my life is so much better! 😃
Can you touch me
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you should show the actual clip instead of just hoping people trust your short summary of what was said, you didnt even link the video or state the section name, its a hour long video that you would need to watch to get full context because you didn't just show the clip. Also why would changing their minds about balance even be a issue? you want them to just keep doing what they were doing because 2 years ago they said something about their current balance philosophy, you even say they should change how they approach balance.
I updated the video info, the interviews are there now. Thank you for saying something! Cheers!
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Say! Can I ask how you do your subtitles? It looks really cool!
I do them per set of words. I stopped doing them on the vids but I do them on the shorts now.
@@shadezOW Ah, I see I see. I imagine it's a painful process. Thanks for the reply!