Lenovo Slim (Yoga) Pro 7 Review: Don't Buy the WRONG Configuration
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00:00 Introduction
00:54 Configurations
01:29 Performance
04:28 Graphics Performance
05:03 Heat and Fan Noise
05:48 Battery Life
06:17 Look & Feel
06:36 Display
07:48 Keyboard
08:01 Trackpad
08:10 Sound
08:48 Ports
09:14 Portability
09:43 Webcam
09:50 Pricing & Conclusion
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Video Updates:
1) The conclusion of this video is 100% accurate and was re-shot to factor in Lenovo's updated sales pricing
2) The reason we did not test the Zen 4 model is because we focus on reviewing Best Buy configurations as that is our primary market. However, we need to improve. In future, if there is a noticeably better config, we will buy it ourselves to include in the review.
3) During the making of this video Lenovo dropped their pricing on the Zen 4 model by close to $400. As mentioned we reshot the conclusion to factor that in. All manufacturers can drop their pricing significantly and it would make their products more competitive. We need to compare this product to other products that are in the full price range, which in this case is $1k to $1.5K USD. In that price range, for many viewers there are better products.
4) Lenovo offers a 4000 series graphics version of this laptop internationally. Yes, that would make this laptop significantly more competitive.
5) The Macbook Pro 14 was included as a comparison in this video in the speakers section. That may seem like a more expensive laptop. However, you can buy the older Macbook Pro 14 M1 significantly discounted to a similar price point as this laptop, and it has the same speakers.
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I think that the review you have done is great and not too much justification is needed.
You got an expensive version of this laptop at bestbuy with subpar configuration, other people could have got the same laptop at the same price !
On the one hand, although shocking, I see the context of the review and I believe the essence of this machine has been tied together nicely towards the end of the video. Great professional integrity and due diligence as always. Kudos to you and your team for the fantastic effort!
On the other hand, in my humble opinion, not reviewing the 'RIGHT configuration' is a big missed opportunity! There are over a dozen reviews of the Zen 3 model but absolutely zero reviews of the Zen 4 model, particularly in North America. The Zen 3 model came out in H1 2023 and the Zen 4 model came out less than 10 weeks ago in the USA. I'd wager that Zen 3 model likely exists due to AMD's supply chain woes. All things considered, it'd be great if you can bless us with a comparison between the Zen 3 and Zen 4 models. Heck! given the similarities in everything else, it'll also be the perfect opportunity to perhaps do a 7735HS vs 7840HS video.
Outside the purview of this specific laptop, I'd like to bring to your attention the following as I'd like someone of your caliber to call out Lenovo at some point if what I'm saying makes sense:
- There is a drastic lack of customization options for this laptop even with 7840HS in the USA compared to everywhere else ranging from impactful features such as 4050 dGPU option, 3K screen, RAM flexibility etc all the way down to tidal teal colour options.
-More importantly, Lenovo has taken a bunch of really capable 7840U laptops and smacked shoddy 45%NTSC panels on them. This is the case for most non-gaming laptops affecting several Yoga 7 as well as Thinkpad models of 2023, rendering them unbuyable. In this fashion, Slim Pro 7 is lucky to have the 100%SRGB panel although it's a downgrade by every other metric.
-The Yoga Slim 7 (the perfect laptop for the most regular users) is available anywhere in the world except in North America
@sreeee I haven't read your full comment as I'm filming but... Lenovo only sent out Zen 3 units. That's why reviewers reviewed only that model. I have bought my own Zen 4 model to review
@@JustJoshTechThank you for your reply. I'm excited to watch it when that review comes out. You'll be the first of the A-listers to review it and I'm confident it'll be fantastic. I bought the Zen 4 model for under $900 and I'd not recommend anyone buying any Lenovo Laptop at MSRP.
As for Lenovo sending out Zen 3 machines only, it's very odd to say the least. They're holding off Zen 4 Slim Pro 7 while sending out Slim 7 out to American reviewers although the model isn't available here. Heck, they did not even notify M Moniz that the model will not be made available in the USA. Not sure why Lenovo appears to be severely underplaying their 2023 non-gaming AMD machines in North America.
Not only would the Zen 4 model have been better. But the Yoga Slim 7 (gen 8 AMD) would have been better too. It has no dGPU but is lighter (1.3kg), brighter OLED screen.
Thnx for listening to feedback and reviewing this laptop. While I would prefer if you reviewed the 7840HS + 32GB variant, as you correctly mentioned, it still comes with the mediocre screen and speakers. The Radeon 780M is pretty powerful as well (as an IGPU), especially when compared to the Intel Iris Xe G7 with 96EUs, which is grave need of an upgrade :)
All said and done, Lenovo's prices vary wildly with frequent sales, and the model with the newer architecture CPU seems cheaper than the reviewed model from what I could see in the video. That's the model whose performance most people curious enough to watch this video would want to know about.
I purchased the 7840HS version .R23 single-core/multi-core score is 1753/16166 . The weight is only 1470g, and the 32GB + 1TB configuration is priced at just $980. I think you should review this model instead of 7735HS version.
Are you in the US?
Yes, it seems like all his points are valid but he’s chosen the laptop based on original price and not currently available prices. His point about it not meeting ‘Pro’ standards is fair but at the price a lot of us have got the better version, it is still a good all-rounder, in my opinion.
myth price
@@MoChuang343 no,I'm in taiwan
@@nikm8476 it definitely is a very good value still. This review seemed kinda unfair
You should review the new yoga slim 7 gen 8, there's literally no non-sponsored review in youtube
Would you say is better to buy lat-year's Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X?
outside the US you can’t find the Asus g14 or zenbook 14x for under $1000 so what would you recommend over the 7840hs model that’s for $980
The 7735HS CPU (Ideapad pro 5 16") was the only one available from Lenovo in my region (Australia). It's nice to see that the Zen 4 7840U/HS has a nice generational uplift especially on that Framework 13. That said these 7735HS and 3050Ti combos are definitely getting creamed by the newest and latest from AMD, Intel and Apple, but because of that you tend to find them at relatively aggressive discounts. Hopefully all of these Zen 3 models sell out so Lenovo starts selling the much more efficient and performant Zen 4 models, optionally paired with Nvidia 40XX gpus.
Your findings with the screen brightness matched closely with my experience. I thought 350nits would be enough but in a semi-cloudy Australian day its basically impossibe to read even indoors. 400nits+ at the bare minimum for any productivity laptop. Thankfully my workflow doesn't use the trackpad or speakers very often so those are non-issues for me, but they should really just spend the tiny bit more and greatly improve the user experience.
Could you test the PD charging functionality? It claims to support PD 3.0 charging, but I'm unable to charge it with my 65W GAN charger.
So watching this video, what laptop for 4k video editing and rendering? Not a Mac, but a windows laptop??
What to do if you get black screen on this laptop? That’s what has happened to me and I’ve tried e writhing but nothing makes it work. Keyboard backlights shows tho.
Hey Josh, the right hinge on my 2 year old IdeaPad Pro 5 16 just tore the plastic frame inside the screen apart while opening the laptop screen normally. I've always been very secure with my laptop. I've been researching this issue, and it seems that all IdeaPad and Yoga and some Legion laptops from Lenovo with a two hinge design suffer from this, with literally hundreds of people online experiencing this problem. Unfortunately, with the majority of these cases Lenovo does not even provide warranty!
I don't know if you're aware of this, but please know if you recommend a laptop from them that it'll most likely only last for 2 years, while for many this occurs even faster.
Is this hinge issue only with the 360 foldable laptops? Is there any issues with the hinges of a 180°?
I just bought this machine and I am very impressed with it after years of disappointment from other manufacturers and some thinkpads. However, after opening it up I realized the display hinge is screwed into a plastic part of the upper case. This plastic part is molded into the metal frame and is non repairable. If that plastic breaks (which it likely will after some time) it would be a very expensive repair if you can even find the palmrest part of the chassis for sale. Also, there is no rubber gasket or buffer to prevent the glass display from touching the metal when closed. This could be the Surface laptop 3 all over again with cracked displays. Stupid design choices ruin an otherwise excellent machine.
I'm confused, you praised the 7730u on the zenbook 14 2023 over it's 2024 one which uses Intel ultra 7 155 but say it's not as good in this device. Am I missing anything else?
What do you think about the Dell Inspiron 14 plus i7-13700h and rtx 3050 ?
What about if it was 930$ with 7840HS, 32GB RAM and AMD Radeon 780M? Would you recommend it for that money?
Honestly , a lot of these cons can be avoided if you just spec the laptop right. I personally bought this laptop with 7840HS, 3k display %100 DCI-p3 400 nits, rtx-3050 6gb (I don't need very high graphical power for the purpose of this laptop). I'm not sure if the speakers will be different but it seems like the reviewed laptop is an older version rather than the refreshed new one. The 7735hs was sold as a seperate different laptop rather than a differently specd one for me so maybe the speakers are also different. However, looking at the prices in the comment section makes me jealous, I had to buy it at 1350 euros, but any other alternative mentioned is close to 1.6k - 2k in the Netherlands and similarily priced laptops aren't nearly as good in terms of screen, build and processor with a dedicated GPU. Not a bad review, but I don't think the critique is that justified considering it isn't the 2023 refresh laptop people were asking for and it's probably an older version.
Completely agree
would you say its worth it with the 7735hs and rtx 3050 at £780?
rtx-3050 is the same with the review model. Agree that some specs in the review model are not the late 2023 model but more like the early 2023 model. But the newer one as well has that same 350 nits screen and probably same speakers and trackpad, as does the rtx-3050 which is same. The big difference in the newer model is the CPU.
Why in the world would you bash the 7735HS version when there is a 7840HS version for a lower price? Just get the latter version and then do the review! Very disappointing!
There are many other things about this laptop that aren't great. The display, the sound, the webcam, and the low end graphics for example
I really respect Josh (I am a subscriber after all) so I’m sure he had a good reason but my view is:
*the tidal teal colour looks nice (he commented on the appearance of the grey one being unspectacular)
*Lenovo were offering cheap upgrades to 32GB
*zen 4 version is likely better at a lot of the metrics (even if only a little)
*integrated graphics on 7840HS is good enough for most and comes with non-touch. Both of these up the battery life vs what he tested
My (non-professional) verdict is, he’s right that the ‘Pro’ marketing is pushing it but if you don’t need discrete graphics, you can get a lighter, longer lasting and cheaper laptop that is for all-rounders. Especially students who can get 15% off directly with Lenovo.
how 7840 has a lower price?
@@randy89555 It's literally in the video as on sale cheaper.
@@ParadigmSh1ft_BestBuy has the 7735HS model for $899.
@JustJoshTech can you review the Legion Slim 7 AMD 16"? I think you already looked at the Slim 7i but seems like the 7840HS chip would be quite a game changer for this laptop.
I would as so many others be way more interested in the 7840HS version, especially one with the 4050 rtx.
As a student I found it here in Germany for 1128 € and to me it seems like a standalone in this price range.
And the Display in said model is a 3K, 400 nits, 120 Hz Panel, which also sounds way better then the one you reviewed.
To me it seems to kind of solve all the problems you mentioned with your version… all that at a lower price point!
As an engineering student I need a portable laptop with dedicated graphics for under 1200 € and I really couldn’t find anything else.
So please think about making a follow up video where you review the 7840HS version with the 4050.
this configuration sounds amazing The only thing I'm missing is that Lenovo doesn't combine that with a 16" variant.
There is an alternate, the lenovo yoga slim 7 (14" AMD) gen 8 with up to 32gb ram and a ryzen 7 7840S
@@fitsuit1555 that one is even more perfect with OLED and six speakers. But also no 16" and the breaker there for me is no second M.2 slot or support up to 2TB.
Hey as a fellow student in germany, where did you find that one for that price?
@@thedarknightnichtIt was a special offer in the Lenovo Edustore, I ordered it about one and a half weeks ago… Lenovo has special offers pretty frequently, so you just have to keep an eye on the model you are interested in… oh, and I forgot to mention, there is no windows preinstalled, which also makes it about 100 € cheaper…
Review also the "Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 (14" AMD) gen 8)
Can you please review the Asus Vivobook Pro 15(2022 version)
I'm very curious to how it performs as I respect your genuity when it comes to these reviews.
You should check out the 2023 HP Pavilion Plus 14, it's the same great laptop from before, but with a Ryzen 7 7840U processor making it the best in both performance and display!
Thanks for your opinion of this laptop, and for pointing out better options.
what does brightness ahve to do with the amount of content on screen
But what about Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Pro X with intel CPU inside it???
The one I am looking at is equipped with 7840S..
I don't know what old unit you fished out at best buy bargain bin.
did you get to test the intel variant (Yoga Slim7 ProX Intel Evo i7 12700H) Please let me know if the intel performs better as I plan to buy this.. My use is browsing with a million tabs.. So a regular thin and light (like the spectre x360 that I own now) starts to cough.. That's why I'm looking for something with a dedicated graphic card (as my older Huawei Matebook with a rudimentary NVidia GPU performs better)
That's very light use. The 12700H with 16g of rmemory should be fine
would you say its now worth it I can pick it up for £675 ($835)
Hi Josh, there is an Intel variant, the Yoga Pro 7i, which has Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4060 and 32GB of ram. Can you do a review on that? Thanks!
Can somebody tell me why they put it under the Yoga name when it doesn't fold backwards?
Thank you for this because i saw this on best buy and was wondering why it was still listed on the website for 1199 when it had a 3050 and was wondering if it was any good
4:39 Am I missing something? The Yoga Pro 7 14 RTX 3050 is going for £1100 right now but the Slim Pro 9i 14 4050 is listed as £1500. Completely different price brackets, no wonder there's a gap in performance
This video was recorded at a very different time period. Definitely interpret it with your updated prices. Also, I did a second follow up video on this laptop byw
I believe the hype is mostly about the non-pro yoga slim 7 gen 8 which is a 13.9mm thick 1.35kg 14.5" notebook with a 3k 90Hz 400nits OLED, a ryzen 7840S, 32gb ddr5, 1tb nvme, (soon) linux drivers and amazing battery life for 1k USD (in europe with student discount). The "tidal teal" version also looks pretty nice and the keyboard is as good as the one on the X1. If you don't need a dedicated GPU it's quite literally the best laptop you can get right now in that price range.
Just so ya know, you can actually find the slim pro 7 for around $899 every now and then. I think at that price it's actually a decent laptop, especially if you can benefit from nvidia graphics and your work load isn't THAT intense. Also I would love to know you're opinion on the slim 5 14.5". It just came out and looks pretty cool, especially with that OLED screen and pretty decent price.
I like the Legion Slim 5 14.5 . I am reviewing it now
@@JustJoshTech looking forward to that review, that looks like a great machine
You're opinion? 😂😂😂
Just for some clarity, would you consider $1588 AUD ($1022usd) for Yoga Pro 7 with
AMD Ryzen™ 7 8845HS Processor
14.5" 3K (3072 x 1920), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 120Hz screen
1tb ssd
16 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
Would this be considered good value and worth getting or just priced right/over priced.
Finding it a little hard gauge Lenovo laptop value.
That seems to be a very good price to me. Especially considering you're in my home country and we get charged way too much for laptops
Hey Josh, in India this laptop is available with an i7-13700H processor and RTX 4050. Do you think this will be a better choice compared to the Asus G14?
I like the g14 better
Thanks @@JustJoshTech . I had doubts on buying the g14 because I heard some reviews saying it has QC issues and overheating. Have you faced any such issues? Also which one would you choose between the g14 and legion slim 7. Please reply
I am currently thinking of between zenbook 14x i7 13700 with yoga ryzen 7 7840U, will that change a lot? or is the best laptop still the zenbook
14X is a better buy, it will go on sale for Black Friday for $750, so for $1050 you're basically paying $300 for the RTX graphics card which is too much money. I think if they had offered a lower priced model, example $899 with Zen 4 + integrated 780M it would make it a better buy since Radeon integrated graphics are better than Iris XE and Zen 4 has a better thermal profile, but at this point I would say 14X has the better deal if you can wait for the sale which should start a week from now.
The new version 2024 with intel 155h seems to have a better 3k display with 400 nits. Dont now if there are other changes.
Does it have plastic or metal bezels?
Hi josh, I really love your videos. I'm from Pakistan and am studying computer science in A-levels and hope to pursue the subject as a major in University as well. I recently had a relative of mine buy a new laptop for me for classes from Best buy in the US. I got a Lenovo LOQ 15 with the AMD Ryzen 7840HS paired with an Nvidia RTX 4050 and 8GB DDR5 5600Mhz ram for about $800 USD. It also has a 144Hz display. Can you do a video on it to check if it's good for computer science students or not. Maybe even check it if is good for any other productivity tasks or not.
But what if you would get this for 499 vat inccluded at this momemt? Would be fair for this price, would it not be?
Love your new background and lighting. Love your video. Looking fresh ...
Can you review the yoga slim 7 with 7840s cpu please ,is it better than MacBook Air M2?
Yes we just had ours arrive 2 days ago. It will be in our big end of year videos
I actually returned this laptop (for many other reasons) because I kept turning it off whenever I held it on the sides. Yes, you can disable this in Windows but then what's the point off having a power button then? It turns out the Pro 9i has the power button further in the back so there isn't any risk when holding it with both hands on the side.
Wow. I'll have to mention that in the follow up
@@JustJoshTechyou can change this setting/button in the Lenovo software.
I am looking to purchase the Lenovo - slim pro 7 14” 7735HS with the RTX 3050 FROM Best Buy as it is on sale for $899. It will have 16gb memory and 512gb storage. Am I getting a really good device for that price or is there something else worth getting ?
Yes good price
Should have tested the Yoga Slim 7 Gen 8 instead. It's the one with the 7840S cpu (yes S, not HS or U) and no discrete gpu. It's lighter, with a brighter oled screen, and a Zen 4 CPU.
And yes I realize it's easy to confuse that with what Josh just tested. Terrible naming.
I'm confused.. don't you also have a video claiming this to be the best windows laptop?
I just bought a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro 14ACH5 with Ryzen 9 5900HX .. it will arrive in the next few days. Is it going to be a dud? Or is it a different model you're reviewing?
Up until now it's still working fine?
Here in Germany, G14 with 7735hs costs 1700€ while you can get Slim pro 7 with 7735hs with 900€. G14 with 7940hs starts at 2500€ while you can get Slim pro 7 with 7840hs/32GB RAM for 1200€. The Cinebench R23 score for Slim Pro 7 with 7840hs is 16k while that for MBP 14 with M2 Pro is 14k and its price starts at 2000€. None of the mentioned laptops cost less than 1500€ here in Germany. Comparing 7735hs which is nonofficialy 6800hs with new processors doesn't seem a good idea at least price-wise.
This!
The elitebook 10 should be one of the produkt you compare it too. Maybe also the idea pad 5 pro or a thinkpad L but not these mentioned here in the video at least not for europe.
Which thin and light Windows laptops would you say can compare to the Macbooks in terms of speakers?
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Hey Josh, what do you think about Asus Vivobook S16 OLED 125H @₹95000 or $1150?
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Hi all....great review by the way...QUESTION : I am a 58 year old senior thats not that techy..I am looking for a Laptop for watching...movies / utube / streaming / social media and emails / shopping on Amazon / etc...would prefer something with a 14 inch or bigger screen that has an awesome picture and good amount of memory and storage...I really do not know where to start as this will be my first Laptop ( i've had a few desktops over the years ) so i welcome any suggestions sent my way....i don't want big overkill nor something that will just get me by.....in the middle works...lol.....thx in advance...cheers from Canada
I've been looking screen for hours, I've found a version which has 1TB storage and 32 GB ram with 4gb rtx 3050 for 800 euros. What do you think about it based on the price? I need a computer to do lots of different things like gaming, coding or surfing.
Like where for that price
@@davetts2958 I've bought it for 720 euros in Nederlands with student discount on black friday.
What about regular lenovo slim 7i?
Could you please do a review on the Intel version? 2023 model please.
Thank you so much for this review!
Don't think this is a fair comparison, of course the Slim Pro **9** is going to be better. As a student I really like the look of the Slim Pro 7. It might not be the best laptop, but it works for whatever I want to use it for.
Can you do a review on the 7 pro with intel i7 13700h please
I just went through a rabbit hole of finding a new laptop, and ended up with the Lenovo Yoga Pro with Ryzen 7 7840, RTX 4050 and the higher resolution screen (that is also brighter and much better calibrated). In Holland, I really couldn't find anything else that matches its spec in such a compact form and at its price. USA might be different of course.
I have the IdeaPad Pro 5 16” from last year with 6800HS and RTX 3050. It’s basically the same laptop as this just bigger. But same specs all around. I got it for $1100 at launch about 1.5 yrs ago. It has its pros and cons but I feel like this Slim 7 Pro is almost the exact same laptop but at the same price with the same chips over an entire tech cycle later…honestly just look for last years model on sale bc that’s what this is. Maybe the Zen 4 model will be better value but idk.
Good comment
Is this worth a buy if it costs $750? I am confused between Asus ROG G14 and this one, although Asus costs $1,099
Please review HP Pavilion Plus(amd 7840u)
What about Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD 780m 1T SSD? :)
I feel that people who praised that laptop were not talking about the Zen 3+ configuration. Having said that, I agree with you that the framework 13 with 7840U is much better, I myself also prefer not having dedicated graphics due to battery, heat and noise.
How is it compared to the Asus Zephyrus G15?
Asus G15 is larger, and gets warmer to the touch, but if you can handle that heat and increased size, overall it is better
The 7735HS with the rtx 3050 at 999 is a good deal? with 400 nits and 120Hz screen.
Its ok, I think Pavilion Plus 14 with OLED screen and Ryzen Zen 4 U processor is better UNLESS you need the 3050 graphics.
@@JustJoshTech Thank you very much!! Great content!
I am getting the Yoga Pro 7 13700H/4050/3k display at approx 1370$
G14 7735HS/4050/QHD at approx 1470$ (Yeah taxes in India are crazy. Thick laptops are cheaper, but I want a thin laptop with good battery and these are the only options)
G14 has much more control over power limits, fans, battery, mux switch, and a better display, but it has those "gaming" looks which I don't like much.
I don't need super high performance, they both have 3yr warranty, 120hz, and can do casual gaming which is enough for me.
Which one should I pick? I am avoiding macbook air (16/256) as it is bad even in casual gaming, also they aren't upgradeable/serviceable (can't afford apple care+). But I might wait for M3 I guess
Hi! these models are exactly what I've been considering to buy. I'm leaning towards the yoga pro 7 with 13700H/4050. Mind telling a little about your experience with it if you did end up getting it?
@@Archi831 Sorry, I didn't buy any laptop yet due to some personal reasons. But I might be waiting for 2024 G14 to launch in India, that looks like the perfect portability and performance combo.
I think you should have tested the i7 Evo version of it, it has also ARC intel evo graphics, it's waaay more powerful than the AMD version
You don't actually have that particular laptop there, do you?
This video is a perfect example why you should do your own research. In the EU this laptop with the 7840HS, rtx4050, a 400nits 3k 120Hz display only costs 1100€. For comparison the zenbook 14x basemodel costs 1999€ 👎
Edit: the yoga 9i starts at 2100€ which is nearly 2x the price
That's good to hear. And yes you should. Unfortunately, in the USA we don't have that model. It would be nice if Lenovo had common models like Apple do
@@JustJoshTechLenovo is strangely lacking a lot of Zen4 options compared to Europe. On r/AMDlaptops all these Europeans talking about all these Zen4 IdeaPad Pro and Slim Pro laptops just makes me wonder why Lenovo doesn’t sell them here. Especially the ones without a dGPU that would have better thermals and battery life. Casual gamers and creators that look at these laptops are totally fine with AMD’s outstanding 780M.
I wonder if Lenovo has some standing contract with Nvidia in the US market or some stupid business politics thing like that…
in my country amd is more expensive than intel. the choice is easy
I bought one in excellent open box at BB for $620. Feels like a true deal for that price. Same price I bought my Yogo 600 series back in 2016/17 before prices for these things went up. Edit: also no issues with the speakers, better than any laptop I've had to this point.
Yes 100%. Amazing price
Hi Josh can you make more episodes about Think Pads?
And the reviews are perfectly in detail as expected
The speaker section specially, thats just horrendous.
But your ending note is also fit myself and multiple other users as well i think. I don't need something that does 1 specific thing too well. I simply need it to do multiple things just good enough (i'm on a 6th gen intel so maybe there is some bias when i say "just good enough") specially if the 7840 version can be found below $1000.
But damnnn seriously after seeing the cooling on the G14, i really wish Lenovo put in effort on quality on the cooling and upgradability part, 16GB just doesn't seem future proof for the next 4-5 years
Overall really awesome and informative video as always
The only thing that can change my mind now is if the Pro 9i is at around ~$1300-1400 on sales
If you find the Pro 9i for $1.3K to 1.4k for sure buy it
I don't think this guy put the GPU in the Nvidia dedicated mode and only had it in the auto or in the integrated mode. That's one pro and con about this laptop is that it can't be used like this.
In the UK only the 7735HS is available with the RTX 3050 which i got for 50% off for Black Friday for about £600 from £1200 (for $750 from $1450)
im seeing this same deal as well, im getting 3 years warranty with it so its coming upto £783 for me
@@shroomjak200is there any point in the warranty
I read lots of reviews on trust pilot about Lenovo, most of them say they have warranty and the CS was garbage
@@timothyandrews5975 honestly, I was thibking of getting warranty on my next laptop as I just had my dell xps 13 break down on me for the second time this year and the repair would cost me couple hundred, same as it did earlier this year. If i had the warranty then obviously that wouldnt be an issue so im just trying to avoid stuff like that happening again tbh
There isnt really anything bad with this laptop considering you can get the 7840HS model for $1000
The slim 7 pro x will go into sleep mode “black screen and not wake up” Lenovo knows about the issue but will not tell customers that it’s a hardware manufacturer issue…instead they will tell you You’re just outside of your warranty
The things is, I need a dedicated RTX/RX graphics card (Doesn't have to be the latest or the most powerful, just powerful enough, a premiumish build and portable form factor at around the $1000 mark. This automatically eliminated the macbooks, The G14 isn't too bad, but cannot be found at that price. The Zenbook pro 14x looks like the more compelling option, but in the UK, Asus has no variant (that has a graphics card) with a core i7, just the i9 thus driving the cost up. I genuinely still cant find a better deal on paper at this price, for me other than the lenovo.
i think he was too tough on the laptop on this review.
Watching this video now (8 months later) I'm having a hard time squaring up the competing laptops recommended instead. All of them are at least $200-$300 more expensive (16-25% more). Maybe the price on this one dropped to put it more in line with it's performance compared to the others, because it doesn't really feel fair to call them the same price range.
I actually bought the Yoga Pro 7 14 with a 7 7840HS and RTX 4050 graphics, plus 1TB of storage and DDR6 ram, for 1200€. It even has the 3K 120hz screen, which looks amazing. Overall I'm very satisfied with the laptop and it's probably the best choice for me. Imo still unbeatable for value
How’s the battery life, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@justanotherrandomdisneyfan3717 Obviously depends on the workload, but with light office work I get around 5 hours and 20-30% battery left
@@justanotherrandomdisneyfan3717 I have yoga pro 7i with i7 13700h and rtx 4050, from my experience for light workloads the battery life pretty good. but i think using amd cpu will perform a bit better
I have same spec and disappointed with the battery life. You have to remember to switch on power saver in Windows and the Vantage software to get anything over 6 hours. If you forget then it drains the battery fast. Other than that it is a good laptop. Would be interested how the OP is getting on with the battery.
@@johncanter9575 Thanks!
But I missed a second hand one Slim Pro X with 6800HS + 32 GB + 1TB + 3K IPS for 448$.
i dont understand this video this laptop costs 900 dollars and youre comparing it with 2000 laptops
Making me regret buying this laptop but I did buy it at only 800 all new should I return or not
In conclusion, I said under $1k is good. You are well under $1k
@@JustJoshTech cool thx for reply
If anyone is wondering about benchmarks for the 7840hs variant, I own one, and have done the tests. Geekbench single core is 2,402, multi core score is 11,654. Cinebench r23 single core is 1,691, multi core score is 15,075. Both tests were done on extreme performance mode while plugged, not overclocked. As for the fan noise while running games, I found that on extreme performance mode it is around 48dB, and on intelligent cooling it is around 42dB. the bottom of the laptop still gets very hot, but the cpu and gpu are effectively cooled and don’t thermal throttle. There are still some things which are pretty bad, like the speakers, camera, and hinge, but for me personally, at only $1200 CAD, I think this is a pretty great deal, and I have been enjoying using this laptop so far. Feel free to ask any more questions if you’d like.
Hey, could you email us at info@justjosh.tech . We are still waiting on our model and I'd love to incorporate your results in an upcoming video in the meantime
Yoga Air 14s ! aka Yoga Slim 7 Gen 8 --- amazing machine with custom chip 7840S 780M - not sure if you can get your hands on one to review but would love to see what you think. It's my favorite machine this year with thin and light and amazing display --- and believe it better than the mac!
+1 . that's the one Josh would probably like better. Not available in US tho
The base model is now $899. Would you say it's worth money now?
100%
The 7 is kind of a hit or miss number with Lenovo
I remember my Yoga 7, it was a great convertible, no major flaw. I then switched to a Surface Pro, great 2 in 1, the best Windows experience I've had at the time
And when it was time to get a laptop, I went for another Yoga 7, easy choice
What a mistake... It was all but what I remember about my first Yoga : ran hot, poor battery life, awful audio.
The 9 range of laptop is the better choice in my opinion
I bought the intel model i7 13700h with rtx4050 for $1400 battery is decent for almost 9 hours, the screen much better with 400 nits 3k res and 100% p3, the speaker above average in same price point when dolby is on and surprisingly it never get hot the cpu never above 85 and the gpu never above 65. I didnt buy pro 9i because at the same specs you pay $500 which is insane
Zen 3 is 2 years old. You really should have got the 7840 version of the laptop for these tests. That 7735 cpu was getting smacked even by 12th gen intel. It's no contest vs the latest CPUs
I‘m a bit confused and at the same time find this review to be a bit harsh or even unfair.
Here in Europe this is - in my opinion - by far the best deal at the moment with the 7840 CPU and the 780 iGPU (I don’t need a dedicated graphics card). You get 32 GB of RAM! Price is around 1100€ including VAT.
There is NO competition in this price range. Except you want to go with cheap Acer crap or have an even worse display in the HP Elitebook.
But I wonder why you find the touch pad so bad … had the old slim 7 pro X for 1 month and the touch pad was phenomenal.
And maybe the 90Hz screen is a plus for some people because it doesn’t drain the battery so quick(?)
Hi Patrick, let me give you a little color. This channel is not a laptop review channel. It is a channel to help your dollars go as far as possible. Find you the best device for the money you have. That means , in most of our videos, we heavily weight where the laptop is priced. While this video was created the price of this laptop was about 35% more than what it is today. This put the laptop more in a higher price category, with tougher competition. Around the day we launched the video Lenovo massively dropped the price. This meant it was now targeting a different set of people, and yes, is more competitive. That being said, it is absolutely not a Pro laptop, and for use cases like yours I would strongly recommend checking out the Zenbook 14X. It has a better keyboard, better screen, and costs less. There are benefits of this over that, but I would check both.
Josh
@@JustJoshTech okay, thanks!
But I won’t go with the Zenbook 14X because it’s 400€ more in my country ;)
Please make a video on lenovo yoga pro 7i laptop
People were asking for the slim pro 7 of 7840HS. The newer version of the slim pro 7.
What you reviewed was an older version of that product, which people didn't ask for.
Also comparison chart would be more useful of there were laptops with similar CPU and GPU power, you can't just have an HS-series AMD compete with U-series AMD or P-series of Intel.
If you were to compare slim pro 7 (AMD) with slim pro 7i (intel) it would be much better rather than slim pro 9i.
It's also noteworthy that slim pro 7 7840HS does have 4050 but that version probably isn't in the US
I understand your frustration. However, the 7840HS would not solve the display or sound issue. Nor the low-end graphics. There are better 7840HS laptops for around the same price.
@@JustJoshTechthe problem is Lenovo doesn't release the higher end AMD models in North America in proper time. In a lot of Asian Countries, the Slim 7 is available with 7840HS, a 60W 4050 and a better and brighter 3K display. What I read on some Korean and Indian sites, that model actually has better cooling as well. And regarding the price, the one you reviewed, regularly goes on sale at BestBiy at 999 USD which is actually cheaper than all the alternatives.
@@JustJoshTech That is true, I agree. I don't think that slim pro 7 is that of a big deal.
But comparing a laptop with another laptop that would be much more expensive and much better in every way (in this case slim pro 9i) is not really useful since the more expensive one is obviously going to win.
Don't take this as a hate but rather as a feedback. I really do love you content and honesty, and people do make mistakes from time to time.
@@JustJoshTech The refresh (at least Slim 7) also has much better screen and sound, and seems generally like a much better laptop.
@@JustJoshTech I owned both the 7840HS is better. The other thing to keep in mind is Lenovo marks up their laptops you shouldn't pay retail as they have sales. I got the 7840HS with 16GB RAM for $850 new, in September 2023.At that price it changed the price to value. You should disclose that Lenovo and pricing vs on sale price. The value is form factor. Plus if you have external devices connected it negates bad speakers or camera. I sell enterprise software and haven't used a built in laptop camera as most are not good.
I got the AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS with Radeon 780M Graphics for a good price, it's pretty good but Pro 9 has a better chassis
what better chassis means?
Damn man should've made the video earlier, I just bought this laptop. The 3K 100% DCIP3 120Hz display version though with a 6gb 3050(probably won't even need graphics card for HEAVY heavy usage anyways) and for $1050. So I think its pretty alright. Haven't gotten it yet, but I really don't think I made a mistake or anything because,
Can't buy a framework 14 where I'm from, yoga 9i was too expensive, M2 expensive for 16gb 1tb version + Want a windows laptop right now and Asus distributers aren't trustworthy where I'm at
smart add, especially with comparisons with MacBook all the time😉
Sad that does not have 120 hz screen.
All of your other options don't replace this one..... The macs are way more she you can't game on them. The G14 doesn't have a touch screen and costs more. This is the only one that has a little of everything. I use mind 7840hs to game while I'm out because my Legion Slim 5 is anything but slim. Yeah you can't crank the shit out of everything but it works fine, I don't need a separate power brick which is super nice. It's kind of it's own thing.
AMD Framework 13.5 with the 61Wh battery looking solid (almost) all-around 👍
Does 3k 3072x1920 resolution solve the display issue?
same question man did you get the answer?It's critical for me as I would be mostly working with tables
@@yashj8238 I never found out, unfortunately.
It's frustration. I hope new Yoga Slim Gen8 with OLED screen would be better.