LM. 03 [ANALYSE/REACTION] Epica : Facade of Reality (with English subtitles)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- [French with English subtitles] Analyse et réaction spontanée
à la chanson 'Facade of Reality' du groupe Epica.
== Vidéo originale : • EPICA - Facade of Reality
Cette vidéo fait partie d'une série 'Lectio Musica' commencée en avril 2020.
Réactions et analyses du franciscain et bibliste Guylain Prince
sur des pièces musicales/chansons qui lui sont soumises.
== Présentation de la série (français et sous-titres anglais) :
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The recording was made for a Dutch TV program called the 2 meter sessions (the length of presenter of the show). The idea behind the program was that they would invite established bands arrange a studio and give them the freedom to records songs in a way that a commercial studios would not allow them to. So it was more like how would you record the song if there was no studio interference. The only exception they ever made was Epica. They had just released their debut album a couple months earlier. The studio send a copy of the album the presenter (Jan Douwe Kroeske) as is normal in the business. He thought he would give a try and was totally blown away by the album. So much so that he took the record to the producer and said "You have to listen to this". When the episode aired the audience respons was so enthusiastic that they released a cd/dvd box called "We will take you with us". A great song from this album is "Feint" a song about a assassination of politician and the after effects on society. ruclips.net/video/FNTaIz5cABY/видео.html
WOW ! That is GREAT background info ! One thing you can be sure : Epica caught my attention. What was mind blowing, for me, it was the fact that on their first album, there was musical maturity/direction. And they were very young ! I finally add : many reaction videos from me will be done. I loved my first experience. And, anyway. I don't have the choice, really, I was flooded with Epica suggestions ! I must have ten songs to do !!! :-) This is the kind of message I LOVE to receive. Thank you so much!
Their songs are really mindblowing. The Holographic Principle is one of my favorite. Greetings from Brazil! 🤘
Thanks. Epica is next. Beginning in two weeks ! Don't miss it!
I listen to a lot of Epica , Simone was 19 here..just 19 , man how time flies , I was so young when I first heard this. Looking at all the grey hair on my head in the mirror listening to this ,again, powerfull moment
Well, needless to say that they were all very young, it was their first album and they did that ?!?! Lots of talent in the band, as the years had confirmed clearly.
@@GuylainPrince yes it was there first album, 17 years ago. 17 years, my mind still hasn't adjusted to the fact that 2003 was 17 years ago. My opinion is that at the moment they are the best metal band to hear live, alongside Nightwish. And as far as lyrics go , they are one of the most complex and diverse bands out there aswell, in terms of composition too. For me, the only downside to Epica is that most other music in the genere seems shallow and simplistic by comparison . And that they haven't put out a new album in 4 years, they have something coming out this autumn if I remember it correctly , and I only hope they will find a vaccine for this virus soon so I can go see them once again
Well, a great fan of Epica meets a great fan of Nightwish, here. And, I feel pretty much the same when I compare to other bands. So you caught my attention, with your comment. I will certainly give more time to Epica. What would be your suggestion of reaction, in the more recent stuff?
@@GuylainPrinceThe holographic principle and essence of silence. And kingdom of heaven, I said before, not that recent but a masterpiece I believe not just in metal but in all music generes , . And I have been a Nightwish fan since 1998. :) Being an atheist is a pretty important part of my identity, but I have related well with religious persons over the bridge of art in general, music in particular. Metal is inclusive by design
Pfffooooo ha ha ha ! Yes, I am a religious person, but being in contact with scientists, philosophers, researchers of all fields, and friends who are atheists, I get along with pretty much all open minded people. Great talk ! And, sure, I will look closer to Epica. No doubt in my mind.
Several observations...
- The band's DVD for which this "live in studio" performance was recorded, is called "We Will Take You with Us". And for many years I thought this related to how EPICA intend to enrapture their listeners and bring them into their world! Silly me, after finally paying attention to whole lyrics!.. It's a small consolation that the title COULD have that second meaning to it, but the phrase is used here in a dark context indeed.
- You would do a great service to us viewers and to yourself by uncovering the acoustic version of EPICA song "Feint" off the same DVD... It is worthy for sheer emotional impact, but also the message, capturing the songwriters' reaction (again) to a real event, is a complement to that of the current song. And it will make you fall for Simone's voice, if you haven't already. ;)
- EPICA is one of the bands in the genre that is never timid about taking a social or political stance. Some fans of music do not like being "preached" to, however Mark, Simone (who writes a lot of the lyrics) and the guys were never ones to mince words if they are hard, and with time this kind of upright position on whatever topic has kind of come to be expected of the band. :)
- The blonde support vocalist, who kept smiling along with the grim message, is American singer Amanda Somerville (part of numerous musical projects in Europe, and symptomatically better known here than at home), who at that time was Simone's vocal coach, and is on extremely good terms with them all. She was very supportive of her young protégé, as can be easily noticed throughout the recording.
- On a light note, this is probably the only Metal song to feature the esteemed vocals of one Tony Blair. No need to doubt, he delivered his lines with panache. \m/
Thank you so much for for generous comment ! This song was my introduction to Epica. There is not a single doubt in my mind that I will go more into their repertoire. Thanks. Note taken for 'Feint' !
Wow! I just found your channel and I'm amazed by it. You're the first reactor I've seen to put so much thought into Epica's lyrics and it's so awesome because their songs have such deep ideas and concepts. I love the analysis! Please keep it up! It's so cool to see. I'm subscribing!
Thanks ! And I love doing this! Few hours a week very well spent!
I used to learn french a decade ago. I wasnt very good at it. Still baffling I understand most of of what youre saying! So a quest of watching Epica reactions, led me to your channel, which led me to go back to learning french. If music doesnt unite people, what else does!
A new video just came out, 5 minutes ago, on my channel. I will start a journey into 10 songs of Epica in two weeks. Enjoy the ride!
Je viens d'arriver sur cette vidéo je ne sais par comment, mais j'adore ton analyse
I love how you do this, epica and nightwish are my two favorite bands. And you show so much wisdom, i am honored to watch.
Well, it seems that you will enjoy the next three months. In two weeks, I will begin a series of 10 songs of Epica, and 10 songs of that past albums of Nightwish. I plan to go into Rush and other bands after that. Peace to you !
@@GuylainPrince i do indeed so far too! nightwish and epica are my favorite bands
Nice analysis of another one of my favorite bands. It didn't see this mentioned or hear it, but Façade of Reality is actually the fourth part of a series "The Embrace That Smothers", consisting of nine songs spread out on three albums. The first three songs are found on the After Forever album Prison of Desire, which Mark Jansen was of part of prior to Epica.
WOW ! First class info, here ! Thanks.
@@GuylainPrince I just happened to listen to this at work, and it hit me that I didn't tell you who the singer on that After Forever album is: The one and only Floor Jansen.
Mark is right!!!!
Oh man. I love you reactions. Do more metal - Epica, Nightwish, After Forever and more... One more - please react After Forever - Forlorn Hope. This song has simmilar meaning to Fasade and is fantastic.
Thanks for the comment. To be frank, I did not know Floor, 2 years ago, and I listened MANY things from her since. I have to admit, though, that I did not explore her After Forever period. Not much. You might be the reason I will do it ! Be aware that I already have a truck load of suggestions. Your turn will come ! Keep asking.
@@GuylainPrince Notice also Epica - "Kingdom of Heaven"- this song is heavy but love it. I am kind of agnostic or pantheist what makes me openminded as I think. Then love Epica and After Forever for thoughtful lyrics.
Impressionnant ton analyse. J’adore Epica et j’avais déjà cherché la traduction de cette chanson, mais je t’avoue que ton analyse est incroyable. Merci beaucoup pour la vidéo!
Saludos desde México, me gustan mucho las canciones de Epica..
¡Yo también! ¡Tanto! ¿Notaste que hice una serie completa en EPICA (11 canciones)?
Moi aussi! Tellement! As-tu remarqué que j'ai fait toute une série sur EPICA (11 chansons) ?
I don’t understand French but the music... incredible!
For another song of this series from a later album - please react to -
Epica - Fools of Damnation
I tell you sincerely: I really LOVED this song, and I truly want to dig into Epica a bit more. I will let you know when the subtitles are ready. Like I said in French: everything in this song is well though. The words are really meaningful.
You might be interested to know: I added English subtitles to this video.
Guylain Prince Thank you for this! Really like the analysis and interpretation. Keep up!
Epica is an amazing band. I discovered them only 2 years ago and got hooked by their work. The lyrics, the composition and the professionalism of the individuals and the band as a whole are all top class.
More recommendations, one from each album in chronologic order -
Epica 2003 - Feint
Epica 2005 - Consign to Oblivion (live at the Zenith)
Epica 2007 - Chasing the Dragon
Epica 2009 - Design Your Universe (Retrospect live, full orchestra and choir)
Epica 2012 - Serenade of Self-Destruction (Retrospect live)
Epica 2014 - Unchain Utopia (official video)
Epica 2016 - The Holographic Principal
Note taken ! Good idea, trying an historical perspective !
Wow, another great reaction / analysis... and a good way to enter the world of Epica! I really think Heavy metal has a marketing issue. These songs are really well constructed and intelligent, and it's incredible that people just ignore them because they are labelled as "satanic music" because of the growls which to me are just another instrument in the composition. Why are we always getting pop and rap music in the radio and we just don't have the opportunity to know this other side of music? This is something I'll never understand.
It seems that the marketing issue is mainly north-American. In Europe, in Netherlands or Finland (or other countries), they are on the waves. Not only the lyrics are well constructed, the music is beautiful and the videos are, very often, first-class (see my next reaction : "Kingdom of Heaven". They have their followers all across the globe. Thanks to internet, they can reach them easily!
@@GuylainPrince Well, I'm in Switzerland and I can say that here marketing is definitely an issue for metal. Even in the Netherlands, homeland of Floor, Sharon and Simone, people don't know them because their music isn't promoted and played in local radio station. Remember beste Zangers? That show is responsible for current Floor's popularity in the country. Never mind she already sold 9 millions of records worldwide. Of course she's the best living ad for the genre, but it's nevertheless a shame that people around me know K-POP and PSY (gagnam style!) and have never heard about Nighwish!!
Love listen to your french. Such a beautiful language! Thanks for adding English subtitles. I already know English and I am looking forward to study a third language. Maybe french now haha!
Ha ha ha! I'm glad you like it! Good luck! - Ha ha ha ! Je suis content que vous appriéciez! Bon courage!
Wahooo, j'ai jamais réussi à trouver ce qu'il se dit en latin, but you did!!! Bravo et merci
Et laisse-moi te dire que ce n'était pas facile à traduire en latin. Car c'est un texte moderne écrit en vieux mots. Il faut travailler fort!
Bonjour Guylain, je viens t'entendre cette vidéo et j'en suis très heureux, tant par tes commentaires que par l'excellence de la musique et chants. Grand merci !!
Excellent !
Tranquille? vous faites référence au fait que je publie plusieurs vidéos, ces temps-ci ? En fait, c'est un peu trompeur, car je les faites il y a 3 semaines, mais elles viennent d'être débloquées. En fait, le seul contenu original de cette semaine sont les réactions à Nightwish et le commentaire de Pâques. Content que vous aimiez.
Hi Guylain. Thanks for the great review. You know of course that Mark Jansen is the brother of Floor Jansen? They were both in After Forever. And they have a sister, Irene, also a fantastic rocksinger. Quite a family!
What?!?! I did not know. In fact, on Wikipedia, they specifically wrote (not related). Mistake of Wikipedia?
You are correct! I was mistaken. Mark is not related to Floor. Still a great family. She has a sister, Irene, who sings great too. Of course they are all on the Ayreon records you will love very soon. Just like Simone from Epica, Sharon from Within Temptation and Anneke van Giersbergen from The Gathering. The last one has inspired Floor to sing metal. Mark is used for the ‘gruntparts’ if necessary.
Simone is best friends with Floor Jansen and was her vocalstudent..
Really?!? What a nice thing to know. Thanks.
I can follow your French somewhat , I just speak Romanian English , I understand Italian and some german , and I had some French classes in highschhol. Lovely language.
DO us an Epica : Kingdom of Heaven. A cursory look at your channel makes me think you are a Christian or at least interested in religion. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on that
thank you
our desire to die is stonger than your desire to live , or something to this effect , literally what an Al QUaeda leader said
Yup. This song was done few weeks back, but got blocked by YT; that is why it just came out. Your request is on the list and it will be done. With English subtitles. Don't worry! We have wonderful Romanian celebrities in Québec; French and Romanian are not that far, sometimes !
@@GuylainPrince Thank you! And technically French and Romanian aren't that far , but despite classes in school, I could only really start understanding French after I learned English, and I think my understanding of English is more relevant to my understanding of French than my native Romanian. Linguistics is interesting. And now that I think about it ,if you ever feel like reading/watching something reguarding linguistics , if you haven't already , try Noam Chomsky, look for his stuff on languages not on politics , though his view on both topics is worth watching in my opinion. That was me goingon a tangent , anyway , good reactions , have my view and subscription
@@GuylainPrince now I wanna hear you analyze ' sancta terra' by epica ft floor jansen. most people seem to think it s a cheerfully happy song.
trais bonne vidéo encore ,je ne connaisse pas epica et je trouve que c'est plutôt pas mal , la chanteuse a une voix magnifique , par contre j'ai un petit problème avec le growling c'est pas assez mélodieux pour moi et sa me sort un peux de la chanson qui pourtant est génial , merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo qui ma donné envie de me penché sur ce groupe =)
Prenez le temps d'écouter attentivement. Certain groupes utilisent le growling comme unique manière de chanter. Ce n'est pas le cas d'EPICA. Il y a toujours un sens, chaque fois, à tout cela.
@@GuylainPrince oui =) j'ai écouté d'autre chanson du groupe et j'aime beaucoup ,Nightwish sera toujours mon groupe préféré et il a une grosse place dans mon chœur pour plusieurs raison mais je ne suis pas fermé a la découvert d'autre groupe et d'autre musique fantastique , et je c'est que je vais bien apprécié Epica , merci beaucoup pour la découvert et la video *O*
Bonjour Guylain, je viens de découvrir votre chaîne et je dois dire que vos analyses sont un régal à écouter. Pourriez-vous analyser Kingdom of Heaven d'Epica également ? La chanson traite de spiritualité et de la condition humaine. C'est, à mon sens, un chef d'oeuvre tant dans l'écriture musicale que dans les paroles. Merci pour votre travail !
SUPER. C'est sur ma liste. Je crois que j'irai vers Épica après cette série sur Nightwish. Un fan de ce band m'a fait une belle list de 7-8 chants, ce qu'il considère les 'chefs-d'oeuvre' du groupe. Kingdom of Heaven en fait partie. Donc, oui. Il te suffit seulement d'être un peu patient!
@@GuylainPrince Super ! J'ai hâte ! Nightwish et Epica font partie de mes groupes préférés alors les écouter et les décrypter à travers vos connaissances et votre vécu de prêtre est un plaisir :)
Voilà une réaction intéressante et surtout intelligente! Merci beaucoup. J'ai vraiment bien aimé. Je vais passer aux réactions de Nightwish par après, Epica et Nightwish étant deux de mes nombreux groupes préférés. En outre, j'ai une propostion: MaYaN, groupe aussi formé par Mark Jansen. Arie, le batteur d'Epica est aussi membre du groupe. Ce qui peut surprendre, ils on 5 chanteurs et chanteuses. Pour rester dans le thème, je propose une chanson: "Saints don't die" ruclips.net/video/qTB8hM5T4sk/видео.html
Merci beaucoup ! En fait, j'aime le hard rock, le prog et le métal, mais je suis amateur d'autres genres musicaux dont le classique (époque romantique). Je suis donc parfaitement à la maison avec Nightwish. Je soupçonne, après cette première écoute, que je vais beaucoup aimer Epica. Les fans m'ont fait une liste de 10 chants d'Épica, que je vais soigneusement lire et écouter, dans l'ordre de parution. Quand je proposerai cette liste aux auditeurs, n'hésitez pas à me faire connaître votre opinion.
Keep in mind that all religious people are not like this. Jesus Christ in The Bible even said that The Pharisees were False Prophets and were not real Christians. They did things like pray in public just so that others would see how holy they were and to get people to revere them more and they even had a hand in the Crucifixion of Jesus.
Yup. I know that very well. I thought it was obvious in the video... Thanks!
La chanson sauf erreur ne semble parler que des kamikazes. Les paroles sont très sévères. A part quelques exceptions, les kamikazes sont autant victimes que les personnes qu'ils ont tuées, ils ont crus être dans le vrai, le juste . D'autres ont profité de leur état de faiblesse psychologique, financière, affective,... De leur illettrisme, de leur méconnaissance de la religion pour les manipuler et leur faire commettre l'irréparable. Ces autres ont pris prétexte de la foi uniquement dans leur intérêt matériel.
Epica ont l'air très mâture, je suppose qu'ils savent faire la part des choses entre la vraie foi qui œuvre pour l'amour inconditionnel, le pardon et ces faux prophètes ou des prétendus croyants qui sèment mort et souffrance.
Comme je ferai un beau parcours à travers l'oeuvre d'Épica (commençant dans deux semaines), je pourrai nuancer cela. Et, de toute façon, je comprendrais une réaction de ce genre après de tels événements. Nous étions tous sous le choc.
@@GuylainPrince oui à l'époque de la chanson effectivement, on était sous le choc. Vraiment j'ai hâte d'avoir votre analyse de leur chansons car elles ont une grande profondeur mais j'ai des lacunes.
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