LM 104 [REACTION / ANALYSIS] NIGHTWISH - The Islander

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @grayish_friend
    @grayish_friend 2 года назад +8

    This is kind of a silly thought, but could the part of albatross be a reference to Junnu Vainio? He was a finnish songmaker, excellent storyteller who has a song by that title. That song is basically a story about a man who regrets not going to the sea with his friend and choosing an unfullfilling life instead. Lyrics are basically storyteller talking to their friend who left. The chorus goes, roughly translated, "the albatross, gliding freely, is your soul, sailor, who knows..".

  • @phillee2814
    @phillee2814 2 года назад +8

    I see this as a development of the theme "better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all".
    An old man, nearing the end of his own life, with memories of a past love.
    Now he has given up hope for himself, but gains his satisfaction by providing a guiding beacon to others.
    "Anchor to the water" is to me, a sea too deep to reach the seabed - nothing to hold on to.
    The song and its setting in a Celtic musical theme is from my understanding (and it might be wrong) originated by Marco, but that he struggled to finish, so brought it to Tuomas for help in completing it, and this is the result.
    The music video for this is the first time that Troy appeared in a Nightwish video - and it is right for him to be included even though he was not a member of Nightwish at that time, but his contribution to this song is huge, with his lifelong love of Celtic music and the instruments associated with it - in this case, he uses both the low and small whistles, and his voice is unmistakable.
    Whether he is playing the Irish bouzouki or simply rhythm guitar in that style I would leave to an expert in those instruments. He is well capable of both (and many more besides. And only he could be playing the uilleann pipes!
    The cut-down live version is amazing, and Marco's stage presence and personality really shine, along with his brilliance on guitar as well as his more usual bass.
    He manages to make a pretty decent-sized stadium feel intimate like everyone was sitting around him in a pub, or maybe a living room.
    The words in Finnish are when he invites the audience to sing along with him. At the start (which you missed) he introduces it by saying "it looks as if the other weasels have doubled back and left me on my own, so we have quite a situation here - 20 thousand people and change, but only one with a guitar, so I suppose I'd better come up with something".

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for this excellent comment. I keep many things from it! Any time, Phil!

  • @deed5811
    @deed5811 2 года назад

    "He sets the sails one last time saying farewell to the world"
    Perhaps this was his journy to the lighthouse island. Dropping anchor when he arrived.

  • @eviljeep
    @eviljeep 2 года назад +1

    Je suis tombé en amour avec Nightwish début 2021. J'étais vraiment sous l'emprise du band lorsque j'ai vu cette publication Facebook qui disait "Farewell Marko.." alors qu'il quittait le groupe. Cette magnifique performance accompagnait la publication. Je ne pourrais dire à quel point l'émotion m'a envahit, et elle ne m'a jamais quittée depuis. J'aurai toujours une larme pour cette solide performance 🌹 Merci Guylain! 🤟🖐️

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      Yup! C'est un artiste et un musicien exceptionnel. Il a dû affronter ses démons. Espérons qu'il s'en sortira grandi. Quand il reviendra - s'il revient - nous serons là.

  • @phoenixaki3458
    @phoenixaki3458 Год назад +1

    Bit of a late comment but regarding the comments of Marko's contribution to the songwriting, I HIGHLY recommend you check out his own band Tarot from a while back...they're sadly inactive and presumed to be done with now that he's stepped out of the music industry a bit and their drummer died in 2016, but the albums "Crows Fly Black" and "Gravity of Light" (especially the latter) contain some incredible songwriting from him. To pick out one song, "Gone" sums it up the best in my opinion.

  • @kaljami3061
    @kaljami3061 2 года назад +11

    Very nice analysis. The song "Last Of The Wilds" also has lyrics.
    In Finnish as "Erämaan Viimeinen".
    You can find the video on RUclips with English subtitles.

    • @IlkkaPrusi
      @IlkkaPrusi 2 года назад +1

      Yes. That is sung by Jonsu from Indica and it was released as a single.
      Link to a fan-made video with the song (lyrics included): ruclips.net/video/rA-XIXy5vw4/видео.html

    • @mantailuaa
      @mantailuaa 2 года назад +1

      Was coming to comment this same thing. The song is worth listening through.

    • @LastofAvari
      @LastofAvari 2 года назад +3

      Finnish version definitely could be a bonus in this series.

    • @Susirajantakaa
      @Susirajantakaa 2 года назад

      I was just rushing to tell the same. Totally worth listening!

  • @johnlanham9057
    @johnlanham9057 2 года назад +1

    Between the line "he sets the sail one last time saying farewell to the world" and "Anchor to the water, seabed far below" a time has passed. In any anchorage the seabed would not be "far below" in this sense. Some may be "deep" but "far below" is out at sea. Anchor to the water means he’s reach the destination he set. That destination being his death.
    To me, this is all about a life of duty well lived. A wife grown old and passed, children grown and out living their own lives. Not so much ability to visit or communicate. He has served his duty in life faithfully and is now at the end. And he faces his rest without fear.
    💙💙💙All Hail Floor !! 💙💙💙
    Infantryman-Nightwish Army. US Regiment. Kentucky Battalion
    RIP Ann Waychoff-Commanding General-Nightwish Army

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +2

      Excellent elements. Thank you so much!!!

  • @wmlye1
    @wmlye1 2 года назад +4

    The performance in Tampere is "Chef's Kiss". Troy's flute weaving in and out and around the vocals is superb. This performance is proof that Marco can rightly wear a t-shirt with the slogan "Floor Jansen is my backup singer!"

    • @brewswillis9783
      @brewswillis9783 2 года назад

      I concur, except that Troy is playing the Irish low whistle which is not a flute.

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      A wonderful one, yes! Excellent!

    • @wmlye1
      @wmlye1 2 года назад +1

      @@brewswillis9783 he plays so many wind instruments it's easy to lose track!

  • @nathaliecazenave8677
    @nathaliecazenave8677 2 года назад +1

    comment oublier une telle chanson, la belle voix de Marco et les instruments de Troy, les images de Nightwish avec Tarja ne sont pas des erreurs, la personne a très bien compris le sens des paroles.
    Un vieil homme solitaire qui a la nostalgie d'un temps fort lointain. Oui le Nightwish avec Tarja est tellement lointain , il appartient définitivement au passé. Sauf erreur, c'est à partir de cet album que Troy apparait dans l'univers de Nightwish. Cette chanson semble tellement autobiographique , du sentiment intérieur de Tuomas, après tous les reproches et injures reçus après le départ de Tarja, ce "farwell to the world" laisse penser qu'il a pu penser au suicide , cette idée on la retrouve dans "The Poet and the pandelum". Les chansons de cette album ressemble à une sorte de thérapie pour lui. Il vivait un conte de fée, il était adulé , peut-être était-il enfermé dans une tour d’ivoire comme cela arrive à beaucoup d’artistes puis il est devenu un invisible pour la plupart des anciens fans , ceux qui s'accrochent au premier Nighwish, car ce qu'il compose aujourd’hui ne les intéresse pas est puisque ce n’est pas Tarja qui chante, ce n'est pas le vrai Nigtwish , il est invisible à leurs yeux. Peut-être attendait-il un pardon de leur part pour se sentir mieux avec lui-même

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      Cet album est l'itinéraire de Tuomas et NW pour sortir et guérir de l'épisode de la séparation. Aucun doute là-dessus. Tout cela est une "mauvaise pièce", un passion commune qui a mal tournée, mais qui néanmoins trouvera une issue vers la guérison.

  • @jorgebrito2029
    @jorgebrito2029 2 года назад +2

    I´m watching from Portugal. Congratulations for yours great reviews.

  • @stasa-X
    @stasa-X 2 года назад +2

    Hi Guylain, the islander is one of my favorite ballads and not only by NW, I love the music video too with the members by the fire 🔥🔥 exactly how Tuomas imagined his band, before it changed direction after her voice change Tarja, more operatic, different from when she was in music school. I agree with your analysis, the old islander isolated in the wind and the waves is Tumas of course, he feels that way, he gives the light, lights the lighthouse, leads the people but he himself feels isolated, here maybe he means the band members and the his fans. He left his tears behind and continues to give hope and light to their hearts.
    There was a time when there was a princess in his life and joy, his life had given him everything, now it is a deep memory, there is still pain but he left the tears behind but there is light at the end of the world. Wonderful poetry, music and performance. A lot even today Troy is blamed for the change in the musical direction of NW, more folk I really like this era, yes it's different but diversity is something I like and it doesn't scare me and Troy is a strong musician , I also love the band he created with Tuomas and his wife Johanna called "Auri"i love their two albums as well. The last of the wilds is instrumental but there is a Finnish version of the song with lyrics, which was only released in Finland and called "Eramaan viimeinen" with the Finnish singer Jonnsu with violin insist pipes if i remember well.
    I will leave the link below 👇
    ruclips.net/video/rA-XIXy5vw4/видео.html
    Thank you for Tampere's version Guylain,i feel still pain when i see Marko's performance.
    Have a nice weekend.

    • @adriannicholson3365
      @adriannicholson3365 2 года назад +2

      From a pitch black centre the lighthouse turns on an ocean bliss. … (Auri: See).

    • @stasa-X
      @stasa-X 2 года назад +1

      Pearl diving (Auri)
      I have a boat which i've never sailed....i will not resist you, but i'll move slow and scared,alive anchor, away.
      I believe that Tuomas's poems have some connection between NW and Auri songs and certainly his love for the ocean, Oceanborn, ocean soul,devil and the deep dark ocean and many other references to ocean,sea,shells, mermaids etc.
      In my opinion,i understand that the ocean is deep, dark and big, like our feelings and our souls.
      Guylain helps me to connect the Islander with other songs from DPP, you help me to connect this song with Auri's repertoire, great thoughts 👍 thank you both!!!

  • @AGDinCA
    @AGDinCA 2 года назад

    It's always such a joy to listen to your musings. 😊

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      Musings? I did not know this word. Wonderful. I learned something this morning! And thanks for the nice comment!

  • @DeepeningTheListening
    @DeepeningTheListening 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for another great analysis, I always learn something from them.
    "Anchor to the water, seabed far below": The old man has reached his harbour: death. But an anchor is also a symbol for stability and hope, so "anchor to the water" means Tuomas is placing these into his (ocean) soul.
    This is a similar theme as in The Poet and the Pendulum: The old person dies, but there is hope and a rebirth (Meadows of Heaven).

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +2

      I love it! Excellent! I muche prefer your understanding than mine! Peace!

  • @maxvanamstel1821
    @maxvanamstel1821 2 года назад

    The quality here makes me so happy, both in the song and in your analisys. Thank you

  • @reeilona
    @reeilona 2 года назад +1

    It is going to be awesome Friday! The Islander premiere on my birthday, 38 times around the sun!! :) This life with Nightwish in it, a magical journey to feel truly being alive

    • @laudatosiadastra1218
      @laudatosiadastra1218 2 года назад +1

      In 10 minutes it will be 13879 days you have graced this planet dear Ree.

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      Aaaahhhh ! Tha will make it an even more enjoyable moment for me!

    • @reeilona
      @reeilona 2 года назад +1

      @@GuylainPrince Thank you so much for GENS DU PAYS (Ma tres chere Ree, c`est a ton tour...)

  • @glendawatson331
    @glendawatson331 2 года назад

    Thank you again for my Saturday morning breakfast date with you and those who participate in the live chat makes for a good start to the day always enjoy the new light shed on NW lyrics and different points that come from discussion
    Looking forward to next week
    I love the boys on stage together in Last of the Wilds I get such a different feeling from it with the interaction between them and just the music it’s different I think than in a song with lyrics
    See you all the same time next week from Australia

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад

      Thank you Glenda! So, Lasts of the Wilds is a song with Finnish Lyrics?!? Is that right?

    • @IlkkaPrusi
      @IlkkaPrusi 2 года назад

      @@GuylainPrince Yes, there is a version called Erämaan viimeinen with a different singer. It was released as a single in 2007.

    • @glendawatson331
      @glendawatson331 2 года назад

      @@GuylainPrince yes I have head it once because it was in Finnish ( I did not put the sub titles on) I did not relate to it but love the Instrumental version with the Boys in the band so much I have never bothered to try it again

  • @German_1
    @German_1 2 года назад +1

    As you probably know, watching your channel, almost all those son gs are played live with Floor. Annette did a musical video of the islander..well I won't badmouth it! you'll enjoy the live version at Tampere! God Bless you.

  • @Donna-C
    @Donna-C 2 года назад +1

    Watch the official video clip as well as the live performance at Tampere

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      By chance, that is the one I chose (Tempere). As for the videoclip, I always choose a lyrics video !

    • @AnuLitja
      @AnuLitja 2 года назад

      @@GuylainPrince
      That video is worth watching. It was filmed in Finnish Lapland, on a campfire, in the fog, in the middle of a "devil's field" (a stone "field" left by the melting of ice, after the Ice Age).

  • @IlkkaPrusi
    @IlkkaPrusi 2 года назад

    Personally, I interpret that the anchor is let loose and left behind to the bottom of the sea with no intention of returning as the old man leaves the shores. Maybe the old man is hopeful to see what is beyond or intends to make a last voyage before dying. I had a darker interpretation before like going to the bottom of the sea with the anchor, but connecting with other songs like you suggested makes me rethink that: I didn't notice the similarities before you pointed them out, thanks for this!

  • @Alicatt1
    @Alicatt1 2 года назад

    This was the first Nightwish track I heard, I was searching on RUclips for something by Evanescence and The Islander popped up, It was Marko's voice that hooked me, I got the album but it never really did much for me, I played it occasionally but not often, it was not until I heard the group with Floor as the lead vocalist that I got hooked on the whole group.
    Thank you for your excellent analysis.

  • @NickBR57
    @NickBR57 2 года назад +1

    Um, Donne says "NO man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent".
    Nice analysis even if I have other interpretations. It's always interesting to see another interpretation and one of Tuomas' great characteristics is the ability to write in a way that can be interpreted by everyone in their own way.
    Agree - this is much better live (as so often with Nightwish).

  • @davidy80
    @davidy80 2 года назад

    If you get your guitar out and play along, you'll notice that the live version is shifted up a key compared to the album version. From memory I think I had to go to drop b tuning for the album version.

  • @StergiosMekras
    @StergiosMekras 2 года назад +2

    A beautiful song by Marko and The Weasels!
    And while Floor makes for a great backup singer, the music video with Annette (and the reverse campfire) is also spectacular.

  • @German_1
    @German_1 2 года назад

    it's odd not seeing Annette since she sang it, I understand she told nightwish no photos of her.

    • @mantailuaa
      @mantailuaa 2 года назад

      The lyric video was fanmade, clearly not Anette fan.

  • @spencerbutterbaugh6104
    @spencerbutterbaugh6104 2 года назад

    This was with Anette Olzon after Tarja. Yes, not as good as this one from Tanpere 2015. Although I watched the official music video with Anette and it was good. Always love your reactions. Thank You!

  • @LastofAvari
    @LastofAvari 2 года назад +1

    I get the impression that all these Windows Movie Maker lyric video creators pay no attention to details and aren't willing to pour even a little bit of effort to make the video look good. Great song, though.

    • @GuylainPrince
      @GuylainPrince  2 года назад +1

      I get the exact same impression. Some are extremely ugly, yes. I chose those who presents with clarity the lyrics, but I have to admit, some are really not very good!

  • @tomdog7864
    @tomdog7864 2 года назад

    To be honest I skipped most of this. Marco and Floor makes me happy