I have a 2.3L automatic and absolutely love it. Peppy, smooth and refined, and I'm averaging 21.5 mpg in city driving. I also achieved 30 mph on a highway trip keeping speed around 65 mph
Mark those are some really great points that you share and I should look forward to and Everglades with a 2.3 l because with the price of gas where it is now and where I could go I will benefit from having a 2.3 l instead of a 2.7. Thank you for taking the time to watch and to share your excellent Intel. Have a great Family Day mark
Ya, if you are crawling, there's no question, that's the most capable setup. For crawling, you really don't need any more power than what the 2.3 brings to the table with that ratio.
Great if... before going hard make sure the engine and tranny are warmed up, before shut down let it idle if you were hard on the pedal. secondly use Ford recommended oil filter and top quality oil. Personally I'd do oil every 5000 miles. I hope this helped and if so consider joining the community if not already done. We have some very knowledge and experienced subscribers who often leave great comments.
With Badlands trin, both are 17mpg EPA and 4 cylinder. manual is 16 city / 18 uwy. I am waiting for plug in hybrid supposed to be out end of 2024. I have Wrangler 4xe and as much as I like the Jeep hybrid, I want the Brobco for its better, larger interior and much nicer road handling. I love the 4xe hybrid power train and having battery o ly on trip under 21 to 24 miles (most of my driving is on the electric motor saving me to s on gas!l) I believe Bronco PHEV will be just as capable off road and better on road and confort
Actually, the ratios are really close when you compare all the different options with the notable exception of the 3.73 equipped cars on 32's. The 4.27 on 32's, 4.46 on 33's, and the 4.7 on 35's are all nearly the same rpm in gear at the same MPH. So most of the MPG difference is down to the areo from frontal area due to changes in tire width and height. So naturally, the 2.3 will only have a small advantage because the cruise HP requirements are similar and the displacement difference is relatively small (15%) and 150-170 lb weight penalty depending on the transmission choice. Which means that mileage will probably deviate by less than 0.5 mpg at cruise between the two engines.
@@djntqd I was referring to tire size and axle ratio, not manual vs automatic. There is little mechanical difference between a 32" and a 4.27 axle vs a 35" and a 4.7 axle.
Wally your comment still makes me laugh and is partially true. Depends on all the factors I've mentioned in my videos. Thanks for the comment and the laugh
My configuration is a 4 doors Badland with hitch. 2.7l. I wanted the hard top but end of May I switched to a soft top. I did not add any packages. I can live without heated seats.
Everyone does know you can slap a aftermarket turbo on it or just a really great tune and maybe e85 and there goes that extra bit of power the 4 banger lacks. Js
Turn off the music man! Cant even hear you. Maybe its the echo, IDK, your audio is off and I'm losing attention but you have a lot of great information
Thank you. It was at the very beginning of my youtube video making journey. It got better a few months later and I have about 200 Bronco videos. Thank you for the feedback
Definitely not changing my mind on the configuration that I went with. I am staying with my 2.7 liter 2 Door Carbonized Gray Outer Banks Edition Bronco Lux package and Tow package with the Roast interior. Pretty pleased that it kept the weight in the lower end of the spectrum at 4558 pounds (some of the 4 doors are over 5100 lbs). 500 lbs makes a big difference both on and off road under some circumstances.
@@AbdoZaInsert if the adaptive cruise control is not a big deal, then you have chosen well. It's about the only difference worth paying for. Hopefully you got a VIN number already!
@@mpeugeot Haha, I wish man. But sadly I live in Arabia and it will cost me too much to import one abroad from the USA by pre ordering it. So I gotta stick with the local Ford car dealer. Wish you a good times with your Bronco ;)
If your a out door enthusiasts. The East Coast is not the place to live. There is very little public land. And there are too many people. It's just a bad combination. It makes for lots of rules. I chose New mexico for my retirement. It's a different lifestyle out here. We have a lot of public land . It gives you a sense of elbow room and freedom. Very little rules. Like, you can't stay in any place for more than two weeks. Pack out what you pack in. That includes your shell casing . Yes, guns are part of the culture. It's like time stood still in some places down here.
Great question. So with the advanced 4x4 you get a 94.75:1 crawl ratio with you.set.up if it is manuel. If you have an automatic you will be at 67.8:1. The main benefit of the higher crawl gear ratio is for rock crawling as it gives you all sorts of low end or slow moving power. It also helps keep everything under control and helps you to not roll away when descending. While the 2.7l is now longer to get its lower crawl ratio will be assisted by the incredible low end torque of the engine. Both engines will make great rock crawlers. As for figuring out the crawl ratio it is the outcome of multiplying 3 factors together but it is easier to check it out on the Bronco spec sheet pg 2. Have I answered well enough your question? I hope so as my goal is to be helpful. Also I've got to earn people hitting that subscribe icon.
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews thank you so much for explaining this! And yea, forgot to mention, I'm going with the 2.7 automatic. Unfortunately I never learned how to drive stick lol. Thats what happens when you're 28
@@veinbanger9381 No worries, almost no one learns how to drive stick these days (except Europeans), but if the government wants people to stop texting and driving they just have to make stick shift mandatory like they did other safety features. 😉
Sorry I added it in the description of the video but didn't discuss it. Here it is...fuel capacity is at 16.9 gallons for the 2 door and 20.8 gallons for the 4 door
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews that's the one thing that annoys me about the 2 door, because there's no reason they could not have made room for the 20 gallon tank in the 2 door.
What's the gas mileage difference between a Bronco with the 2.7L with 4.7 Locking Rear Axle Final Drive Ratio, and a 2.7L with 4.27 Locking Rear Axle Final Drive Ratio? Is this even important?
Very true. I prefer the 2.7l as it has both direct ans port injection. The 2.3l being only direct injection worries me in regards to long term wear on the timing chain when carbon builds up
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews I'm talking about the Rav 4 Hybrid..,.Best technology out of all the companies....But I'm still buying a custom Bronco cause of the cool factor
@@MRSTEEL15why is this even a comparison against a rav4 hybrid? Idk anyone who wants a bronco willing to cross reference a rav4 hybrid while shopping. The only other vehicle that should be compared in this category of vehicles in any way would be a Jeep Wrangler…
I have a 2.3L automatic and absolutely love it. Peppy, smooth and refined, and I'm averaging 21.5 mpg in city driving. I also achieved 30 mph on a highway trip keeping speed around 65 mph
Mark those are some really great points that you share and I should look forward to and Everglades with a 2.3 l because with the price of gas where it is now and where I could go I will benefit from having a 2.3 l instead of a 2.7. Thank you for taking the time to watch and to share your excellent Intel. Have a great Family Day mark
21.5 is utter garbage.
We had those kind of fuel consumption in the 1980's 😂
@@benoitbricet8885 you drive a Tesla
I would like a 2.7 v6, but will have to go for the 2.3L because 6 spd +crawl manual transmission feature trumps everything on the list of requirements
Yeah I can understand that and I am happy that I'm not the only one that sees the manuel with 4a and a 94.5:1 crawl ratio as simply...amazing
Ya, if you are crawling, there's no question, that's the most capable setup. For crawling, you really don't need any more power than what the 2.3 brings to the table with that ratio.
2.7s are dropping valves. Screw that
I’m thinking the same thing plus how rare will the manual units be in 10-15 years
I'm just mad I can't get the 3.0l without having to purchase the Raptor version! I would love to buy a base model with a 3.0l option..
Getting 22mph on my new 2024 big bend 2.3l manual. That includes long trips at 70mph and light towing.
Wow. Thank you for the feedback. That is excellent considering the machine and it's capabilities
Excellent! I can break 19 mpg in my 2.7 but only downhill cruise control at 65.
How's the longevity of these two engines? I've never owned a Ford. I bought my Bronco going into retirement, so I'm hoping it will last long term.
Great if... before going hard make sure the engine and tranny are warmed up, before shut down let it idle if you were hard on the pedal. secondly use Ford recommended oil filter and top quality oil. Personally I'd do oil every 5000 miles. I hope this helped and if so consider joining the community if not already done. We have some very knowledge and experienced subscribers who often leave great comments.
Longevity should ne quite bad. Knowing Ford, they are probably filling the car with plastic junk to make it very cheap to produce.
With Badlands trin, both are 17mpg EPA and 4 cylinder. manual is 16 city / 18 uwy. I am waiting for plug in hybrid supposed to be out end of 2024. I have Wrangler 4xe and as much as I like the Jeep hybrid, I want the Brobco for its better, larger interior and much nicer road handling. I love the 4xe hybrid power train and having battery o ly on trip under 21 to 24 miles (most of my driving is on the electric motor saving me to s on gas!l) I believe Bronco PHEV will be just as capable off road and better on road and confort
I feel the same way. Love the 4xe but got a Brinco in the meantime for the same reasons but certainly look forward to having a plug in Bronco
Actually, the ratios are really close when you compare all the different options with the notable exception of the 3.73 equipped cars on 32's. The 4.27 on 32's, 4.46 on 33's, and the 4.7 on 35's are all nearly the same rpm in gear at the same MPH. So most of the MPG difference is down to the areo from frontal area due to changes in tire width and height.
So naturally, the 2.3 will only have a small advantage because the cruise HP requirements are similar and the displacement difference is relatively small (15%) and 150-170 lb weight penalty depending on the transmission choice. Which means that mileage will probably deviate by less than 0.5 mpg at cruise between the two engines.
94.5:1 and 67:1 are not really close ratios.
@@djntqd I was referring to tire size and axle ratio, not manual vs automatic. There is little mechanical difference between a 32" and a 4.27 axle vs a 35" and a 4.7 axle.
Lol by time you get these they will already be classics.
Lol. Not a bad joke
Wally your comment still makes me laugh and is partially true. Depends on all the factors I've mentioned in my videos. Thanks for the comment and the laugh
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews 👍
I am already seeing them at the dealerships, so looks like these jokes will soon be classics. 😉
@@TalkingHands308 only took how long ? The ones people are getting are 2015’s. Lmfao
Can you tell me your Bronco configuration and way ?
My configuration is a 4 doors Badland with hitch. 2.7l. I wanted the hard top but end of May I switched to a soft top. I did not add any packages. I can live without heated seats.
Everyone does know you can slap a aftermarket turbo on it or just a really great tune and maybe e85 and there goes that extra bit of power the 4 banger lacks. Js
Great point! I agree. The 2.3l is very good and a tune makes it great
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews appreciate that. I mean if your spending over 20k whats a tune right lol 😆
You buy a bronco for power ?
And do you buy horses to travel on the ocean ?
Turn off the music man! Cant even hear you. Maybe its the echo, IDK, your audio is off and I'm losing attention but you have a lot of great information
Thank you. It was at the very beginning of my youtube video making journey. It got better a few months later and I have about 200 Bronco videos. Thank you for the feedback
Definitely not changing my mind on the configuration that I went with. I am staying with my 2.7 liter 2 Door Carbonized Gray Outer Banks Edition Bronco Lux package and Tow package with the Roast interior.
Pretty pleased that it kept the weight in the lower end of the spectrum at 4558 pounds (some of the 4 doors are over 5100 lbs). 500 lbs makes a big difference both on and off road under some circumstances.
wtf... I almost have the same config & color. Only difference is I'll get the High package
@@AbdoZaInsert if the adaptive cruise control is not a big deal, then you have chosen well. It's about the only difference worth paying for. Hopefully you got a VIN number already!
@@mpeugeot Haha, I wish man. But sadly I live in Arabia and it will cost me too much to import one abroad from the USA by pre ordering it.
So I gotta stick with the local Ford car dealer. Wish you a good times with your Bronco ;)
Roast interior is the best. Thank you for the informative post and for all the help and support.
If your a out door enthusiasts. The East Coast is not the place to live. There is very little public land. And there are too many people. It's just a bad combination. It makes for lots of rules. I chose New mexico for my retirement. It's a different lifestyle out here. We have a lot of public land . It gives you a sense of elbow room and freedom. Very little rules. Like, you can't stay in any place for more than two weeks. Pack out what you pack in. That includes your shell casing . Yes, guns are part of the culture. It's like time stood still in some places down here.
Sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing unclebilly
Can someone dumb it down for me about gear ratios?
I'm choosing the Black Diamond with Satstsqautch with mid package
Great question. So with the advanced 4x4 you get a 94.75:1 crawl ratio with you.set.up if it is manuel. If you have an automatic you will be at 67.8:1. The main benefit of the higher crawl gear ratio is for rock crawling as it gives you all sorts of low end or slow moving power. It also helps keep everything under control and helps you to not roll away when descending. While the 2.7l is now longer to get its lower crawl ratio will be assisted by the incredible low end torque of the engine. Both engines will make great rock crawlers. As for figuring out the crawl ratio it is the outcome of multiplying 3 factors together but it is easier to check it out on the Bronco spec sheet pg 2. Have I answered well enough your question? I hope so as my goal is to be helpful. Also I've got to earn people hitting that subscribe icon.
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews thank you so much for explaining this! And yea, forgot to mention, I'm going with the 2.7 automatic. Unfortunately I never learned how to drive stick lol. Thats what happens when you're 28
@@veinbanger9381 No worries, almost no one learns how to drive stick these days (except Europeans), but if the government wants people to stop texting and driving they just have to make stick shift mandatory like they did other safety features. 😉
So what's the fuel tank capacity??
Sorry I added it in the description of the video but didn't discuss it. Here it is...fuel capacity is at 16.9 gallons for the 2 door and 20.8 gallons for the 4 door
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews that's the one thing that annoys me about the 2 door, because there's no reason they could not have made room for the 20 gallon tank in the 2 door.
@@mpeugeot Even so, with 17 mpg for the 4 door with 2.7l and 35 tires , the range seems to be 300 milles 🤦♂️ Something went wrong .
Ford needs to manufacture the tops themselves or commission another company that's capable of mass production
Howdy Ryan. Thank you for watching. The good news is now they are now building the hard tops in reasonable numbers but do have a lot of catch up to do
What's the gas mileage difference between a Bronco with the 2.7L with 4.7 Locking Rear Axle Final Drive Ratio, and a 2.7L with 4.27 Locking Rear Axle Final Drive Ratio? Is this even important?
Great technical question! I would refer you to CNET.com/roadshow/news/2021-ford-bronco-fuel-economy
Also for the offroader that needs the 4.7 locking rear axle final drive ratio the difference will not be important.
who cares about gas mileage on a performance vehicle
What engine should you choose- the engine in the 4.0 Toyota Runner- it’s bulletproof!!!
Very true. I prefer the 2.7l as it has both direct ans port injection. The 2.3l being only direct injection worries me in regards to long term wear on the timing chain when carbon builds up
Good video. Please stop saying wifey.
Got it.
I really wish you'd say rodeo normally!!!
Agreed. I've got it now. Sorry for the annoyance
No excuse for this pathetic Gas mileage....That's why folks love Toyota and Honda
Yeah it's not great but neither is the gas mileage on a Tacoma or Tundra
@@Johnnyscarcarereviews I'm talking about the Rav 4 Hybrid..,.Best technology out of all the companies....But I'm still buying a custom Bronco cause of the cool factor
@@MRSTEEL15why is this even a comparison against a rav4 hybrid? Idk anyone who wants a bronco willing to cross reference a rav4 hybrid while shopping. The only other vehicle that should be compared in this category of vehicles in any way would be a Jeep Wrangler…