Sky is NOT Falling! Truth on 2024 Toyota Tacoma Transmission Failings

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • A new series of videos are spawning up on RUclips talking about the 2024 Toyota Tacoma Transmission failings that have occurred. Publisher Tim Esterdahl addresses the issue and provides clarity on the problem.
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Комментарии • 393

  • @Fadic4
    @Fadic4 3 месяца назад +49

    Why don’t automakers include a lifetime warranty with their lifetime fluids?

    • @joeschlepp
      @joeschlepp 3 месяца назад +13

      because there's no such thing as lifetime fluids. it's a marketing scam.

    • @Fadic4
      @Fadic4 3 месяца назад +7

      @@joeschleppI fully agree with you, they’re pushing lifetime fluids, and sealed transmissions/differentials, they should give us a lifetime warranty if they have that much faith.

    • @Gene1969
      @Gene1969 3 месяца назад +2

      Because they haven't defined what a Lifetime is in terms of the machinery using these fluids.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Fadic4 Toyota recommends changing the transmission fluid at 60k if you're using your truck like a truck. What lifetime situation are you referring to?

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 3 месяца назад +1

      Because the average owner doing it themselves screw up the tranny more often than helping it. Adding to much, adding the wrong fluid, using tranny flush, etc. If it was so bad, why are there fewer and fewer issues compared to cars 15-20 years ago?

  • @reloadnorth7722
    @reloadnorth7722 3 месяца назад +20

    I have a 2023 Tundra SR5 4x4 Crew MAX. In the 12 months of ownership, I have had absolutely no issues. What really floors me is all the hysteria over the Toyota issues, but people shrug off the 30 years of issues, or longer with GM/Chev, Dodge/Ram, and Ford. I am 60, and purchased my first new truck in 1984, and have owned the Big 3 North American brands until last year. I wanted a change and I am not the least bit disappointed.

    • @Xencer
      @Xencer 3 месяца назад +1

      Years of GM displacement on demand causing $8k repairs, engine lasts long enough to get out of warranty.

    • @stacksmasher
      @stacksmasher 3 месяца назад +1

      Wait until you need an engine replaced at 40K miles lol!!

    • @reloadnorth7722
      @reloadnorth7722 3 месяца назад +1

      @@stacksmasherI bet grade 3 was the hardest 13 years of your life

    • @stacksmasher
      @stacksmasher 3 месяца назад

      @@reloadnorth7722 Yes!

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA 3 месяца назад +54

    Anyone who purchases any of these trucks has to be ready for consequences! And people still buy them at these ridiculous prices! Thanks for the video

    • @JulietHotelFoxtrot
      @JulietHotelFoxtrot 3 месяца назад +14

      It's like you watched the video (maybe) but didn't really learn anything from it.

    • @waynespringer501
      @waynespringer501 3 месяца назад +7

      @@JulietHotelFoxtrot If you "learn" from someone paid to promote a corporations products, it may by you that isn't really learning anything.

    • @MarkA500
      @MarkA500 3 месяца назад +7

      ⁠@@waynespringer501 not everyone that disagrees with you is paid by corporations 😂

    • @whales302
      @whales302 3 месяца назад +9

      Most buyers aren't watching any of these type of videos. They go in blind, listen to dealer bs, and pay for over priced junk believing Toyota is a no brainer for quality..

    • @joeschlepp
      @joeschlepp 3 месяца назад +5

      there's a sucker born every minute--- PT Barnum.

  • @icare7151
    @icare7151 3 месяца назад +6

    With decades of quality control, testing and forensic failure engineering analysis experience, well stated Tim!

  • @williamsmiley16
    @williamsmiley16 3 месяца назад +28

    Great video. Finally someone speaking the truth on these videos. I keep seeing these videos with clickbait to get views but yours keep it real.

    • @drn13355
      @drn13355 3 месяца назад +7

      Exactly. Every video "car industry is ruined". "Toyotas fallen apart on the road!". yada yada yada. Hell there still aren't as many vehicles available for sale as there was pre pandemic, but "the lots are overrun with vehicles".

    • @-insert-
      @-insert- 3 месяца назад +2

      How soon we forget that virtually all of the original vids discussing failed Tundra engines were accused of being clickbait as well and look where we are today. It's too soon to declare no issues with the Taco transmission. Wait a year before stating that there's no inherent issue because as of today you know nothing.

    • @c1aytonbigsby
      @c1aytonbigsby 3 месяца назад +1

      @@-insert-it’s too soon to declare there ARE issues with the transmission too. It goes both ways. Every single video I see is of how these new trucks are terrible in every single way when that’s not true at all. If you buy a first year vehicle you deserve the issues that come along with it.

  • @nordlandak6853
    @nordlandak6853 3 месяца назад +50

    Nissan says thank you Toyota…

    • @Fireballsocal
      @Fireballsocal 3 месяца назад +13

      Nissan Frontier: 2023 has 1 recall. Absolutely horrible owners satisfaction and predicted reliability on consumers reports. Pick your poison.

    • @jimmyjohnson6232
      @jimmyjohnson6232 3 месяца назад +4

      What new trucks are reliable and a good deal?

    • @cwqrpportable
      @cwqrpportable 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jimmyjohnson6232 Sigh

    • @Fireballsocal
      @Fireballsocal 3 месяца назад

      @@jimmyjohnson6232 No such thing right now in my opinion. Inflation has been causing prices to rise so fast and so far that until your pay catches up or prices come down, it's better to wait it out. Used prices are starting to come down but have a long way to go. I imagine that once manufacturers start offering true base models on the lot, that it may be a better time to buy.

    • @treborheminway3814
      @treborheminway3814 3 месяца назад

      What's it for? ​@@Fireballsocal

  • @Gadget0343
    @Gadget0343 3 месяца назад +3

    Actually, the rust issue was more on the C channel frames. The real issues is that they would rivet doublers inside the C channel and water would sit between the doubler and frame and accelerate corrosion. The later years of the Tacoma had a bead of sealant on the top edge of the doubler to help keep water from getting in between the two where the earlier ones did not.

  • @Frontier2022
    @Frontier2022 3 месяца назад +2

    2024 Toyota Tacoma has the greatest ground clearance of any pickup when you count the tow truck underneath it!😎

  • @84Prerunner
    @84Prerunner 3 месяца назад +4

    Look back at the 2000 model year 4.7 tundra transmission issues. I own one that had a transmission replaced at the dealer. Aisin transmission with a thrust bearing issue. The replacement transmission has successfully gone almost 300k miles.

  • @hellkitty1014
    @hellkitty1014 3 месяца назад +10

    The Tacoma TRD Pro could be the best truck in the world...if not for its nearly $70K price tag...BEFORE dealer markup. $10-12K more than a Ranger Raptor is insanity.

    • @donjuan2105
      @donjuan2105 3 месяца назад +3

      Lol what? The new Ranger Raptor is the best mid size truck followed by the Frontier. The new Tacoma might rank 5th

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 3 месяца назад +2

      @@donjuan2105 i was speaking in facetious terms on the Tacoma. It is woefully inferior to the Ranger Raptor BUT $12K more. And before the Toyota fanboys come for me on resale and reliability, well...Toyota is having some rough waters at the moment. Plus Ford Raptor products hold value very well.

    • @harolddenton6031
      @harolddenton6031 3 месяца назад

      ​@@donjuan2105that neqb4 grand ranger raptiebis nir worth payungbgreedy dealers a 10 grand market adjustment charges. Making the truck be 69 grand plus sales taxes. Then you endup paying 75 to 76 grand to drive that ranger raptor truck.

    • @donjuan2105
      @donjuan2105 3 месяца назад

      @harolddenton6031 I can go get a Ranger Raptor from several dealerships here In NJ for msrp. Not every dealer is marking them up. And if you want to go that route the TRD would be marked up over $80k

  • @chrisdemas8246
    @chrisdemas8246 3 месяца назад +4

    Similar things were said early on about Tundra engines, just a few here and there. 2 years later we have a recall. Will have to wait and see.

    • @christophergodschalk3627
      @christophergodschalk3627 3 месяца назад +3

      Sure, but 4 unverified transmission issue reports doesn’t mean anything.

  • @Kittycat822
    @Kittycat822 3 месяца назад +2

    My brother is a transmission specialist. When I found out my Tundra didn’t have a trany cooler l was upset. The sticker said it did. My brother told me not to worry that just what you said the new trany fluids are designed for higher temps. Just change it more often is your using it doing a lot of towing. I live where summers are regularly 110 and I tow. So I change it every 30k. No issues.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      That’s absolutely correct.

    • @jamesemanner9671
      @jamesemanner9671 3 месяца назад +1

      However, many internal components, such as the O-rings and solenoids, fail sooner proportional to the heat.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +1

      @@jamesemanner9671 I would think the same. Toyota pulled off their transmission cooler for a few years. I’m going to be curious to see what kind of reliability reports we hear from that decision.
      Reader: 2020 Toyota Tundra Transmission Frying, Toyota Responds
      ruclips.net/video/foIkP3WjpW0/видео.html

  • @desertstriker8
    @desertstriker8 3 месяца назад +4

    Noticed when i was looking to buy a 2024 GMC canyon AT4X just like you said both the newer 2023 and 2024 had reports of transmissions failing within 1000 miles or lower, while others had no issues. Bad parts def can happen.

    • @davidwethington9320
      @davidwethington9320 3 месяца назад +2

      GM openly admitted the issues sooner and addressed them. Even going as far as having a stop sale at one point. Also the trucks affected were in the single digits in most cases and not many more on other issues. Solution on the motor issue was a complete replacement. GM has been doing what Toyota has done in the past.

    • @desertstriker8
      @desertstriker8 3 месяца назад +1

      @@davidwethington9320 I get that I'm just stating shit happens! Bad parts happen across all brands.

    • @davidwethington9320
      @davidwethington9320 3 месяца назад +2

      @@desertstriker8 I agree. Some are doing better than others right now and people are used to Toyota leading the way in bad situations. Not to mention I think some RUclipsrs are afraid to be overly critical because it can impact their channel which is their lively hood in some cases.
      I waited for my AT4X through the stop sale and so far it's been great. So I'm fine they held it to make sure it was good to go.

  • @patriciamunro493
    @patriciamunro493 2 месяца назад +1

    After researching I purchased the titan pro4x 5.6 litre very happy with it

  • @AllTerrainNation
    @AllTerrainNation 3 месяца назад +9

    I feel like we just talked about some of these issues yesterday

  • @raymondkassay3610
    @raymondkassay3610 Месяц назад

    I can't seem to find anywhere, so I'll ask here. Is the transmission in the 2024 tacoma M6 or automatic, still the Eisin transmission?

  • @CrossRdNorth
    @CrossRdNorth 3 месяца назад +1

    Do you feel that the interior fit and finish is comparable or better than the 2023? I wanted to drive off the lot in a new truck but was disappointed after the test drive. I have a 22 4runner an my father a 23 Tacoma and this 24 truck had tailgate gaps not symmetrical and things like loose glove box door, cheap plastic door cards and even a cheap glasses holder. The only reason I ended up in the echo chamber is my curiosity about the stuff I couldn't see on this $47k model I drove. Anyone saying "It's a truck dude" is insane because at that price brand new, it needs to have a higher quality than the previous year or a Nissan that is $10k cheaper.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      I haven’t seen a Tacoma built poorly myself.

  • @peteliotas9456
    @peteliotas9456 3 месяца назад +1

    This news is music to my ears. I'm definitely going to hang on to my 2019 4runner unbelievable

  • @KyleRattay
    @KyleRattay 3 месяца назад +1

    Tim good job! I went and looked at the 2024 Tacoma and think it looks good interior looks good and port and direct injection. Only issues I saw were fit and finish on tail gates etc and overall. There were also some repainted frames in some parts at the dealership. Other than that people are complaining about a lot of Bs to get you tube views!

  • @ejesoriginal
    @ejesoriginal 3 месяца назад +4

    Tim, on the topic of the transmission cooler, it isn't necessarily the worry that the temp is going to ruin the fluid or it's lubrication properties, it is the concern that the increased persistent heat the transmissions parts (gears, seals, solenoids, etc) are going to be bathed in over years will reduce the life of them and the long term reliability that these transmissions have been known for.

    • @4af
      @4af 3 месяца назад

      Exactly. From the 1970's - early 2000's Toyota 3, 4 & 5 speed auto transmissions had fluid temps in the 130-175 degree range during most driving conditions, hence gear, seal, solenoid, etc. life was measured in multiple decades and multiple hundreds of thousands of miles. Then with the introduction of 6 speeds and WS fluid, fluid temps rose to the 165-195 degree range and the current 8 speeds run temps of 185-205 degrees and transmission failure is routine around 130,000 - 190,000 miles unless the owner gets on an aggressive fluid change interval schedule.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +4

      I have yet to find information about transmission parts having less life due to the higher temps.

    • @AlexKosanovich
      @AlexKosanovich 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Pickuptrucktalk You Don't Need To be told ! Use your COMMON SENSE !

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +2

      Let me be very, VERY clear. Transmissions now run at higher temperatures. I have not seen that correlated with transmission parts failing.
      Overheating the transmission for long periods of time should cause parts to fail.

    • @ejesoriginal
      @ejesoriginal 3 месяца назад +1

      Wow brother, I would think you'd know better than this. To boot, you actually delete information I posted just because you don't agree with it? Weak sauce.

  • @tylersrubar6451
    @tylersrubar6451 3 месяца назад +2

    I agree that many of these recent issues with Toyota or any other manufacturer are more the cause of bad suppliers parts. Many of these parts companies haven’t been the same since Covid imo

  • @Magoo71
    @Magoo71 2 месяца назад

    Tim, I really appreciate your point of view. I have a 2018 Tacoma TRD Sport....I love it and was thinking about maybe getting a new one. My current Taco has 88K miles with no issues other than normal Wear & Tear. I don't like that they have discontinued the V6 and I'm not sure I want their current boosted 4 cylinder motor. So I will watch this with interest to see what way it all goes...

  • @markf8256
    @markf8256 3 месяца назад +1

    Tim, there are likely many reasons Toyota is experiencing a rough patch, but the consumer must remember the vehicles on the market today are among the most technically complex in the history of the industry. Not by choice but due to regulations and consumer demands for a myriad of features.
    Mr Car Care Nut discussed this recently and he is correct. This doesn't mean that they cannot be made better but with this added complexity it will take even longer to reach a stable level of QC. There is no getting around this.

  • @chadedwards6643
    @chadedwards6643 3 месяца назад +2

    That's a smart process for producing frames. I bet its more expensive as you are adding extra steps to produce them.

  • @joeschlepp
    @joeschlepp 3 месяца назад +2

    the new box frames have a wax coating sprayed on some parts of the interior for corrosion protection injected thru the holes at least on the new land cruisers they do.

    • @jamesemanner9671
      @jamesemanner9671 3 месяца назад

      Yes, noticed on an LC video. However, LC's are built in Japan, and definitely pricier than the Taco. It would be REALLY interesting to know if the corrosion protection is the same for the Tacoma..

  • @JM-fk5hh
    @JM-fk5hh 3 месяца назад +4

    I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people who own the competition, Toyota owners have contently said how superior their vehicles are to other manufacturers, I have owned GM vehicles, Subaru vehicles and presently have an F150 with the second gen 2.7 and have had great reliability with all of them. Putting 300,000 miles on a GM and a few Subaru's. With the number of vehicles that the manufactures produce, there will always be a small percentage that will have an issue, the concern is how quickly can it be addressed, and the vehicle given back to the customer in a timely manner. At this point I would not purchase a Tundra or Tacoma truck until the problems are solved.

  • @johnyota131
    @johnyota131 3 месяца назад

    Great points Tim! I think part of the problem is that Toyota has so many issues rising to the surface all at the same time, which drives the narrative that they've lost they're way. Thanks for the educational information!

  • @Freynightwalker
    @Freynightwalker 3 месяца назад +1

    Always enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing yourvthoughtsvand the data you found.

  • @mattheinbaugh46
    @mattheinbaugh46 3 месяца назад +1

    About to buy one today. Not too worried. Gonna drive it like I mean it. My dealer ship gives a lifetime warranty on the power train so…if something happens eh it’s covered. It’s a new generation things are bound to go wrong. People complain about the engine…yes they should have made an optional v6 but it drives great.

  • @RyanLarivee
    @RyanLarivee 3 месяца назад +1

    I saw you on Tacoma World the other day. I have 4300km on my 24 manual loving it so far..

    • @pcap2700
      @pcap2700 Месяц назад +1

      Got 5000 on my 6 spd manual love it

    • @RyanLarivee
      @RyanLarivee Месяц назад +1

      I am now up to 10,200km now still great

  • @nlken7175
    @nlken7175 3 месяца назад +17

    As a owner of many Toyota's over the year's, the 2022 Tundra and 2024 Tacoma you can really see the cost cutting to make more money. Toyota is really losing the reliability game in my opinion.

    • @adamsrosales6519
      @adamsrosales6519 3 месяца назад +4

      How are they cost cutting? You have no idea what their costs are

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 3 месяца назад +2

      There's no cost-cutting. The lower trims of Tundra are there to save Bubba a few bucks.. the top trim Tundra has the classic Toyota/Lexus fit and finish inside...

  • @SM-og9pt
    @SM-og9pt 3 месяца назад +13

    One of the major issues are the many Toyota fan boys online that have been chanting about the reliability of Toyota. The followers used this as an excuse to buy more vehicle than they need because of “reliability” compared to other brands. People with an $800+ payment with a lemon motor/transmission feel like they’ve been scammed.

    • @adamsmiths3016
      @adamsmiths3016 3 месяца назад +6

      That's why toyota failing is such a big deal. They are resting on their reputation and it's falling apart.

    • @driftingtrance5511
      @driftingtrance5511 3 месяца назад +3

      Every manufacturer has problems and every makers has fan boys, this is nothing new and the world isn’t ending 🤣

    • @adamsmiths3016
      @adamsmiths3016 3 месяца назад

      @@driftingtrance5511 that's not what I'm saying and I'm not a toyota fan boy. Every car manufacturer is making crap vehicles from tesla to gm to Chrysler to now toyota. What pisses me off is toyota still trying to tell customers that their new 70k vehicle will have the same reputation as the toyotas that came before. But if telling yourself that I'm just a fan boy helps you sleep better in your fantasy world go ahead.

  • @rjejames28
    @rjejames28 3 месяца назад +1

    Did everyone see how fast TFL got rid of there tacoma ? Correct me if I'm wrong but they aren't getting the Land Cruiser either ? They were saying no big deal and at the same time running for the hills.

  • @lucaszak3597
    @lucaszak3597 3 месяца назад

    As of late, it has been increasingly more difficult to find balanced discussion of the automotive products because of the seemingly endless supply of "doom and gloom" videos about reliability nightmares and/or vehicle supply market impending collapse. I really appreciate your level-headed approach to the automotive news and your reviews.
    Cheers

    • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
      @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 3 месяца назад +1

      fear sells, and the human-livestock seem to be most comfortable living in fear

  • @Johnny_Bee
    @Johnny_Bee 3 месяца назад

    I remember this same conversation when the new Tundra came out and a few had turbos failing…..it’s no big deal, it’s a supplier issue…..only a handful had this happen…..now look at Tundra with engine issues.

  • @JCann
    @JCann 2 месяца назад +2

    With your logic, since everyone is talking about how over priced these trucks are, we should see a reduction in MSRP. Hell will freeze over first. How about getting rid of the TRD Pro seats, the removable Bose speaker, and that stupid auto tail gate. They should add about 200 more pounds of plastic to the interior. Current models need to look even cheaper.

    • @towel-ie7554
      @towel-ie7554 Месяц назад

      'tis a JBL speaker, not Bose.
      Bose would have been a good move.

  • @VlauableFather
    @VlauableFather 3 месяца назад +2

    Most of these comments apparently didn’t watch your video. They’re all repeating the same five or six things about Toyota. Everyone seems to be sharks smelling blood in the water.

  • @MrSkeptical
    @MrSkeptical 3 месяца назад +2

    The indisputable truth is that Toyota's are NOT perfect... they just happen to be one of the MOST perfect overall 😉

  • @joelrivera6473
    @joelrivera6473 3 месяца назад +1

    THANK YOU VERY MUCHO For the info. There should be more people saying and explaining things so people don’t start saying dumb stuff

  • @jimmyjohnson6232
    @jimmyjohnson6232 3 месяца назад +2

    Are any trucks right now good?

    • @ML-lg4ky
      @ML-lg4ky 3 месяца назад

      The one you got buddy. Stick with ot

    • @Alloutdrs1
      @Alloutdrs1 3 месяца назад

      They all have issues, basically roll the dice and go with the dealer you can trust near you for repairs. Brand doesn't hardly matter anymore unfortunately.

  • @klohr311
    @klohr311 3 месяца назад +3

    Every automaker is going to their share of issues. No automaker is perfect.

  • @theirthereandtheyre2947
    @theirthereandtheyre2947 3 месяца назад +9

    There’s an advertisement for Nissan Frontier under this video 😆

  • @newyorknewyork1649
    @newyorknewyork1649 3 месяца назад +8

    That’s it Tim, I’m gonna have to talk to your mom!!

  • @joannac9194
    @joannac9194 Месяц назад

    You know, I am not going to complain about my Tacoma. Yesterday I found out I needed a new transmission. I was upset then, but it is a 2007 with 175,000 miles!

  • @mtstarr123
    @mtstarr123 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video, kind of like the guy who said he put a K&N filter on his 24 taco and then claimed 25 plus MPG….mixed road….

  • @peterhoma6385
    @peterhoma6385 3 месяца назад +1

    Toyota guy here and all I have to say is shame on you toyota, very VERY disappointed !

  • @mattspaulding7488
    @mattspaulding7488 3 месяца назад

    Hey brotha. The first Tacoma you explained is mine. If you want more info you can reach out. There’s definitely some that aren’t being reported to nhtsa. I personally know 6. But I agree with your analysis. First year failing is def going to happen. The biggest problem is not taking care of me with not putting me in a vehicle (a loaner) when it did fail. Atleast take care of people

  • @wilyceyote
    @wilyceyote 3 месяца назад

    My opinion is, I don’t think Toyota engineers drove it in real world scenarios to the limits of the vehicle can handle after listening to you I think you’re right on spot. Every new model year has problems but we have RUclips and social media it goes viral in minutes are hours but the quality Toyota Tacoma‘s have gone downhill in the past couple of years. Sorry that’s a fact. I had multiple problems with my 23 Tacoma. But Toyota dealership fixed it for me. It should not have left QC with the problem. That’s the biggest issue.

  • @scottcoleman2876
    @scottcoleman2876 3 месяца назад +2

    Not a fan boy but I would think that after all the frame issues in the past Toyoda wouldn't take a chance on more problems.

  • @danbelden7354
    @danbelden7354 3 месяца назад +3

    TFL truck broke the front differential the first time they used it off road in 4wd. They just posted a video that they are already selling their TRD Off road already after just getting it in February. I’m so glad I bought my Frontier Pro 4x.

    • @desertstriker8
      @desertstriker8 3 месяца назад +2

      Didn't they sell it to to turn right around and buy a land cruiser the same day?

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 3 месяца назад +2

      @@desertstriker8 yes they buy what gets the most views (since they buy vehicles under their company). They have an ineos whatever SUV as well to make content with

    • @christophergodschalk3627
      @christophergodschalk3627 3 месяца назад +1

      That’s their business model. Doesn’t mean it was a bad truck.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +4

      How many other Tacomas have you seen breaking the front differential? None for me. Not really a known issue or cause for a major recall wouldn’t you say?

    • @danbelden7354
      @danbelden7354 3 месяца назад +1

      @@christophergodschalk3627 yeah but normally they keep them for more than 4 months

  • @TLhike
    @TLhike 3 месяца назад +1

    Amazing analysis on how manufacturers will cut costs over a model year. Electronic manufacturers companies will remove buttons from remotes to save 5c lol

  • @tacomafan5186
    @tacomafan5186 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for a common sense video.

  • @truthnow902
    @truthnow902 3 месяца назад +1

    You're right it's not the end of the world just go buy a brand new Ridgeline and you won't have any of these problems people should have just done in the first place!!!!

  • @FullTimeGT
    @FullTimeGT 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for that video and I think you're right Tim. YT community needs to chill out about those recalls and verify their sources, all manufacturers included. Also when there's a trend, like we have now with Toyota's recalls, all channels getting into that trend to have more views. When i'ts not Toyota, it's Stellantis, it's EVs, it's bla bla bla... I have enough of this circus.

  • @BillsAutoService
    @BillsAutoService 3 месяца назад +2

    Tim, what about people who are not on social media? And who dont make a video about everything? I bet there's a lot more than 4 total transmissions that are bad for 2024 Tacos. Do you work Toyota?

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +2

      Work for Toyota? They wouldn’t hire me after my criticism of them. 😂
      Ok, double it. Say there’s 8. Still doesn’t make it a known issue making for a recall.
      Same damn thing happened with the turbo gate on the Tundra. Did that result in a recall like everyone claimed? Nope. Toyota fixed them one by one and know you didn’t hear about it.

  • @crisikingful
    @crisikingful 3 месяца назад +1

    No just having the transmission cooler gone has shown problems from all brands, also that's cooperations pushing the oil not changing never you need to change it.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      Proof?

    • @crisikingful
      @crisikingful 3 месяца назад

      Tfl had run two different trucks lke test or just towing ford and chevy. They both had over heating problems but it was back in 2020 or 19..?

    • @CarShopping101
      @CarShopping101 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk You're supposedly a truck guy. You really need proof that deleting a transmission cooler is bad thing when we are talking about trucks with high torque and that will most likely being towing? That's just common sense.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      @@CarShopping101 I’m waiting to see reports from 2019-2020 Tundra trucks. I’ve yet to hear about transmissions frying. Toyota took out the cooler for those model years since they stated they didn’t need the part to meet their temperature specs:
      Reader: 2020 Toyota Tundra Transmission Frying, Toyota Responds
      ruclips.net/video/foIkP3WjpW0/видео.html

    • @crisikingful
      @crisikingful 3 месяца назад

      @@Pickuptrucktalk yeah but it is kind of hard maybe the older tundra didn't really need it maybe? I'm just throwing out opinions now but with this all brand new design maybe it needed it. Your running more power so that more power found the weak spot idk just going down the list when it comes to working on cars.

  • @rogerjohnson2515
    @rogerjohnson2515 3 месяца назад +6

    Tim, thanks for the unbiased information. It seems that video producers are more interested in click-bait content than facts. Thanks again for being the voice of reason, haters are gonna' hate.

  • @JulietHotelFoxtrot
    @JulietHotelFoxtrot 3 месяца назад +1

    Other advantage of buying early model year vehicles -- you get the longest possible stream of OEM parts for the life of the truck. There's parts I'm starting to have trouble finding for older vehicles (15+ years old), and these are not shitmobiles. These are 200k+ mileage daily drivers that will have stuff fail from time to time. There comes a point when you can't get the OEM supplier parts and you're stuck with some Dorman crap.

  • @johnthearcher662
    @johnthearcher662 2 месяца назад +3

    Appreciate this video. My Tacoma has been fine. I think the negative press is just being blown way out of proportion.

    • @pcap2700
      @pcap2700 Месяц назад +1

      Totally agree I love my 24 trd sport

  • @BPJac
    @BPJac 3 месяца назад

    Just saw a new article posted on CBS 2 hours ago about Ford recalling 550,000 F150s for going into first gear no matter how fast you are going. So yeah, it does happen to all the manufacturers.
    From the article:
    Ford is recalling more than 550,000 pickup trucks in the U.S. because the transmissions can unexpectedly downshift to first gear no matter how fast the trucks are going.
    The recall covers certain F-150 pickups from the 2014 model year. Ford's F-Series pickups are the top-selling vehicles in the U.S.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      Yup, that news just broke today. I'm working on writing up a story.

  • @betweenthepines4000
    @betweenthepines4000 3 месяца назад

    Honestly, by a Jeep Gladiator. Albeit not perfect but its one of, if not the best buy right now. Overall a very good truck with no turbo tuning issues and a VERY good transmission.

  • @Alloutdrs1
    @Alloutdrs1 3 месяца назад +4

    You might not be able to find the "wheresneutral" guy if Toyota had the video already taken down. They did this with techs who posted videos of the tundra engine failures. Toyota is in damage control.... Tundra has been out two years now and still suffering from some of the original issues when released... There is no excuse for this.

  • @joshua6918
    @joshua6918 3 месяца назад +10

    I feel so tired of those guys kissing Toyota ass. Tell the truth !!!!!!!

  • @aviationmedia2425
    @aviationmedia2425 3 месяца назад +8

    Tim, why do you feel the need to point out what other RUclipsrs say? If they are wrong time will prove that. I remember the same discounting of issues with the Tundra and those who were calling out the issues turned out to be right. I don't see the need for you to protect RUclips from what others say, just do your thing and let others do their thing.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +2

      Damned if I do, damned if I don’t like I explained.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 3 месяца назад +4

      Notice how most press events are mostly by toyota these days? That's why youtubers are targeting toyota. Imagine if toyota stopped doing press events and early test drives. No content. RUclipsrs love to hate on the bread and butter without doing thorough research. Just he said she said BS

    • @matthewgaines10
      @matthewgaines10 3 месяца назад +6

      I think when people build false panic with half baked information, it is a public good to point out this.
      Why do you feel the need to question why he’s questioning the claims?
      Answer that question and you’ll have the answer to your question.
      Why don’t you do your thing and let him do his. Take your own advice before you offer it to others.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +1

      @@beexiong2995 Toyota has a lot of product to launch. This next year they are slowing down. Just the ebbs and flows of the business.

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 3 месяца назад

    Tim the transmission may have been used for a few years, so? You now have a turbo engine the not only makes almost 50% more torque, it makes it a lower in the RPM band. The load on the transmission has greatly increased.
    Fluids and change recommendations are to get you past the warranty only. Every vehicle made has a environment impact. The longer intervals for fluid replacement lowers the amount of used fluids per vehicle. Funny thinking with this. Less used fluids that need to be processed. However, more failed engines, transmissions and other driveline components 😂.

  • @opensourcedev22
    @opensourcedev22 3 месяца назад

    What's frustrating is that Toyota is very popular. Meaning it's out there in large numbers so the blast radius is wide. Brother in law had his rusting Tacoma frame replaced and sold it after it was fixed by Toyota. Current neighbour has a Tundra on current recall and co-worker bought one of these manual Tacomas ... yeah, the odds are not all affected vehicles will suffer, but somehow it's just continuous. I've 2 Honda Ridgelines and besides one sub-frame recall + check - nothing. I was always told Honda rust faster and are cheaper than Toyota, but maybe the law of large numbers dictates the most sold vehicles are prone to get defects found faster

  • @tonylatham5915
    @tonylatham5915 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for posting this.

  • @CanadianProho1
    @CanadianProho1 3 месяца назад

    😂 Exactly! People are upset that Toyota got rid of the V8, so any issue that comes up with the V6, they pile on and whine and complain that the sky is falling.

  • @joelsoto8494
    @joelsoto8494 3 месяца назад +2

    My 2024 Tacoma transmission went bad at 700miles

  • @ninersforlife7682
    @ninersforlife7682 3 месяца назад

    Good video. When an automaker has a recall a lot of the time it's not even a part they made that failed it ends up being a part made by their supplier but the automaker is the one that takes the blame. So if Toyota's are having transmission problems they'll take the blame even though someone else made the transmission. like I tell everybody never buy the first year of a new transmission or motor 🙂

  • @saywhatnow57
    @saywhatnow57 3 месяца назад +1

    There are a couple of guys on youtube getting large followings at the moment trashing tacomas. I seriously think they are just making junk up.

  • @jsk.71
    @jsk.71 3 месяца назад

    Moving the Tacoma from Texas to Mexico was a mistake. They won't have the quality, fit & finish, etc.. That plant is new and it will take time for it to get it working properly. The fact that it's a new model only complicates that plants issues.

  • @mtstarr123
    @mtstarr123 3 месяца назад

    FEA (Finite Element Analysis) is what all mech engineers do… They then go in a strengthen the weakest areas, rinse and repeat.

  • @billsimpson604
    @billsimpson604 3 месяца назад

    In the Rust Belt thin frames rust away faster than thick frames.

  • @Njrebel68
    @Njrebel68 3 месяца назад

    Alot people who comment on frames being thin know nothing about frames they are made of ultra high strength steel its thin but extremely strong

  • @fredperry3574
    @fredperry3574 3 месяца назад

    Most expensive and the most important is the drive train and it's the whole works on these trucks ,motor,tranny and the rear end

  • @jamezLowery
    @jamezLowery 3 месяца назад +1

    I only put 1700 miles on my 2024 tacoma and the transmission failed and it took a month to replace it

    • @JCisco-vc2eh
      @JCisco-vc2eh 2 месяца назад

      5000 miles and mine just went out. Just wow

    • @jamezLowery
      @jamezLowery 2 месяца назад

      @@JCisco-vc2eh that sucks bro

    • @jamezLowery
      @jamezLowery 2 месяца назад

      Did it have a solenoid code?

    • @JCisco-vc2eh
      @JCisco-vc2eh 2 месяца назад

      @@jamezLowery they will update me Monday .

    • @JCisco-vc2eh
      @JCisco-vc2eh 2 месяца назад

      @@jamezLowery is that what happened to you. Solenoid code?

  • @jamesfroese9232
    @jamesfroese9232 3 месяца назад +7

    I agree with you. There's been too much "the sky is falling" stuff lately. I have a Aisin 8spd auto transmission in my 2012 diesel VW Touareg with more than 250,000 km on it, and I tow a 5,000 lb rv trailer, and it's been fantastic. No issues. Also too Toyota has been making turbocharged motors for multiple decades internationally. They are not new to this. As well, the Lexus LS was the first vehicle to debut with the 3.4TT motor, and there's been little chatter about that on RUclips. They will sort this out. Not worried. Looking forward to a Tacoma hybrid one day.

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 3 месяца назад +3

      2015 Toyota is not 2024 Toyota. The company is dealing with a MASSIVE emissions cheating scandal that is a huge deal in Japan. On top of that, Aisin had severe quality issues on 2022-23 Ram 3500 transmissions that caused most to be replaced under warranty. Toyota is a huge conglomerate that was soon enough to face quality woes that most mega carmakers do over time.

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 3 месяца назад

    The vendors that supply parts and components to the manufacturers? They are made to the manufacturers specifications. They are sent back to the manufacturers for testing and evaluation. The manufacturers would change specifications as needed. Keep in mind that the manufacturers dictate how much they want to pay per unit.

  • @frankkeel8410
    @frankkeel8410 3 месяца назад

    There is little quality control becausd it cost to pull every part and check. I saw this coming in the Late 90's.

  • @mrcnorth7149
    @mrcnorth7149 3 месяца назад

    This is why it is not recommended to buy a new model Toyota for 2-3 years. In the case of the new Tundra, make that 5 years. For the Tacoma, until proven otherwise, I will check back in 2027... Toyota has had a few new model issues since the 1990's. Hopefully they continue to stand behind their products and fix all these issues (Tundra, and Tacoma). I will be waiting and seeing, and it helps that my 14 Tundra with a 5.7 v8 is running fine

  • @Mursedave
    @Mursedave 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s pretty disgusting how toxic the doomesday auto content creators are these days. Same with a few of the Mopar personalities, just always talking like the sky is falling. People need to take a chill pill.

    • @Mursedave
      @Mursedave 3 месяца назад

      Thank you Tim for talking some people off of the ledge 🤠

  • @davidchenette1091
    @davidchenette1091 3 месяца назад +12

    My transmission is perfect on my 2024 tacoma TRD off-road I've had it for 2 months now I agree with you some of these channels keep putting a bunch of crap out there then people start adding more stuff when don't even have the new tacoma

    • @visualdragon
      @visualdragon 3 месяца назад +2

      Mine too.

    • @AJourneyOfYourSoul
      @AJourneyOfYourSoul 3 месяца назад

      You just jinxed yourself. No doubt your transmission will fail now, lol.

    • @davidchenette1091
      @davidchenette1091 3 месяца назад

      Your not even worth my time LOL

    • @Yoyomanmanholla
      @Yoyomanmanholla 3 месяца назад

      I am rooting against your 2024 Tacoma.. will just make my older model worth more, when I sell it shortly.. 😊

    • @davidchenette1091
      @davidchenette1091 3 месяца назад +1

      Glad I could help you your just jealous cause you can't afford the tacoma lol

  • @donays8241
    @donays8241 3 месяца назад

    If the frame is lighter and smaller engines, WHY THE 4GEN GROSS WEIGHT MORE THAN 3gen or I'm wrong

  • @davidwethington9320
    @davidwethington9320 3 месяца назад +8

    I can't find it so it doesn't exist. Plenty of RUclipsrs complaining about overheating. Plenty of other forums with complaints. I'll wait for the video that talks about Tacoma transmission problems. It won't be long.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +1

      I didn’t say they weren’t overheating.

    • @stacksmasher
      @stacksmasher 3 месяца назад

      @@Pickuptrucktalk Why not post all the links I p[rovided? You filtering comments you dont like Commie?

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      @@stacksmasher who is filtering comments? I was gone all day yesterday.

  • @kevbecker672
    @kevbecker672 3 месяца назад +2

    Rear ends and transmissions failing in these.....And I own a Toyota....

  • @nathanshaffer5105
    @nathanshaffer5105 3 месяца назад +2

    I would just say the quality of everything is going downhill...currencies around the world are losing purchasing power so things have to be made with cheaper components and materials.

    • @danielbonner8309
      @danielbonner8309 3 месяца назад

      That's a fact. And we are just becoming normalized to inferior quality. Which is bad. Why would they ever go back.

  • @towel-ie7554
    @towel-ie7554 Месяц назад +2

    I'm not seeing the problem with these Gen 4 Tacoma's. All makes have issues, all makes have winners. If you want greater reliability then you sacrifice features - that's universal. Get a manual, crank windows, 6-cylinder inline 4.0 if you want reliable.
    As for the TRD Pro, people point at $65,000 as if that's the only model they make. Believe it or not the SR5 (let's just skip the SR) can be had for $40,000 new.

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 3 месяца назад

    The problem is the perceived cheapness and made like glass. Things have broke that shouldnt have under very easy conditions

  • @markreams3192
    @markreams3192 3 месяца назад

    In the case where the parts aren’t available for an extended period time for a warranty repair and the vehicle is unusable there is a case for buy back under a lot of states lemon laws. Good video. The numbers don’t lie. It’s easy to say all these trucks are 💩 but not back it up with data. As far as transmission temps in Toyota transmission The Car Care Nut in one of his videos pointed out that Toyota transmissions don’t work well a lower temperatures and goes on to say if an aftermarket cooler is installed it should have some sort of thermostat control to keep from over cooling the transmission. People come up with all kinds of 💩 when in reality they don’t know what the F they’re talking about. When someone puts content out it’s wise to question their credentials before accepting what they say as absolute truth!

  • @adamg3911
    @adamg3911 3 месяца назад +3

    You glossed over the part of the video where he talks about Toyota detuning the manual transmissions Tacomas.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +2

      What’s the issue with that? I didn’t think it’s worth mentioning since it’s been public knowledge for a year now.

    • @adamg3911
      @adamg3911 3 месяца назад

      @@Pickuptrucktalk Transmission durability was my only concern.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      @@adamg3911 so you see detune = more reliable?

    • @adamg3911
      @adamg3911 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk I’m not an engineer or a transmission expert, but I am someone who appreciates overbuilt powertrains. With that being said, what about the people that want to tune their taco’s, are they SOL? I remember when Toyota used to offer TRD SC’s for the 1GR-FE V6 and the transmission wasn’t a concern with that.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад

      @@adamg3911 I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t tune the truck. Turbos are great for tuning. Why would you think the transmission would be the weak link? Aisin has built robust transmissions for decades.

  • @fossil9440
    @fossil9440 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @cwqrpportable
    @cwqrpportable 3 месяца назад +1

    I hope these Toyota issues aren’t keeping you up at night Tim?

  • @jrahme
    @jrahme 3 месяца назад

    I always buy first year cars from Toyota and have issues and they always make it right , lastly my wife’s 2024 grand highlander hybrid max which had a shudder issue since day one on low speed and Toyota end up replacing transmission at 3 k miles and gave me 10 years / 100k miles platinum warranty on it , reason I stick with Toyota , they always make it right and stick behind their product

  • @smittysmitty481
    @smittysmitty481 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m just going to buy a used Tacoma from the last generation.

  • @jfalconc
    @jfalconc 3 месяца назад

    Excellent and evidence based video.

  • @mrjjthor
    @mrjjthor 3 месяца назад

    I've never seen so many new Tacomas and Tundras sitting on dealership lots. Most of Toyota customers aren't buying their trucks.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +1

      May 2024 recap from Toyota:
      Trucks up 23.6%
      - Tundra up 44.9%
      - Tundra HEV up 120.2%, an all-time best-ever month

    • @mrjjthor
      @mrjjthor 3 месяца назад

      @@Pickuptrucktalk you mean truck sales are up?

  • @georgerobinson6559
    @georgerobinson6559 3 месяца назад +2

    If only four people, shouldn’t Toyota take make an effort to take care of a customer?

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  3 месяца назад +4

      Who says they aren’t?

    • @matthewgaines10
      @matthewgaines10 3 месяца назад +4

      The cars are under warranty. They will repair them. That’s the level of care Toyota provides to every customer who has an in warranty problem.

    • @c1aytonbigsby
      @c1aytonbigsby 3 месяца назад +1

      Have you heard of something all new cars come with called a warranty?

  • @kevbecker672
    @kevbecker672 3 месяца назад +2

    If it ain't broke....Break it !!

  • @marvinjacobs2955
    @marvinjacobs2955 3 месяца назад

    I’m keeping my 130,000 mile 2006 4.0 FRONTIER and IF IF IF I decided to buy a new truck it would be the new FRONTIER ! ! !