I believe 95% of the RUclips channels who talk about cars/SUV's have no business telling anyone anything. This channel and maybe a handful I really trust.
Im a current toyota MDT. I was one of the early lucky techs to have rebuilt a 23 Tundra engine back in July last year. The engine was torn down for inspection, followed by a 55 day wait for parts. This was easily one of the most overly complex engines I have ever worked on.
Aren’t u a little worried that he’s now reached a level where he’s been bought off by Toyota? The company has paid people to take down videos so it wouldn’t surprise me. How has this guy not come across just ONE of these engines by now? Anyway, I want u to be right, maybe I’m being cynical - but maybe I’m right.
@@newbluerugby he used to work for Toyota dealership. Now he has his own auto shop. He understand have have fixed all Toyota engines from the 80's to the latest 2023 engines
Not bad at all. Still a lot lower failure rate than most other manufacturers especially across their while line up. Recalls go two ways. Initiated by the Manufacturer and the government isn't involved but included. Or initiated by the government and forced upon the manufacturer. Unfortunately use the same name. Being in the jndustry for 35 years, 32 of it in a Toyota dealership. The government has never mandated a recall upon Toyota. Their average recall falls well below most manufactures level of failure rate to invoke even an inquire into a consideration of a recall.
Toyota would not approve/pay a claim if the tech wasn't at the master level skill rating. You have to be on a approved list that matches or exceeds minimum level to do warranty work on any recall/special service campaign. Plain and simple.
@@robertragsdale6955this is not true. I’ve seen it first hand. It should be true. But it’s not. Bottom line if the work needs to get done and someone’s available the works being completed whether it’s under someone else’s name or not.
@@beretta8633 yes there are thiefs and snakes crooked dealers. But its harder and harder to do these days with electronic repair orders. The manufactures see everything. Has to be under the techs name. When you were using flag sheets it was easy. Not any more when its 100 percent electronic. They can also see if they are flagged on two repair orders at sema time. The DMS (dealer management systems work for the manufactures to assist in warranty fraud at the dealer level. Things can still be done. But not near as coming as it use to be. L1
This man is on the money. I'm in a business that services dealerships and the worst thing Toyota could do is to not replace the complete engine. Dealerships hate warranty work, because they don't make the money on it that the normal repairs generate. Therefore they usually put their lowest paid (least experienced) mechanic on the warranty jobs. Do you really want a kid out of trade school rebuilding your very complex modern engine? Great channel.
You're right, Toyota should send replacement engines to the dealerships, and take the old one and repair them centrally themselves. That way they control the quality of the repair.
AMD and actual past mechanics talked about this problem. I'm so alerted by this that if I ever get myself into a warranty work scenario I will be having a discussion with the service manager and technician. If Toyota can't fix it maybe I can at least get ahead of it and make sure they don't take short cuts, even if I go out of pocket.
@@TheRealCatofyou’re aware that the dealerships doing the work is, against the lowest paid techs, they’ll have the journeymen doing other repairs that customers pay good money for.
This is the only guy on RUclips I really want to hear talk about this. Everybody else either likes to ignore certain facts, don’t have the knowledge or the will to educate their viewers, or just choose to play angry with gloom & doom clickbait titles because their angry viewers want something to relate to. Some RUclipsrs are hard to listen to for 8-10 minutes. I’ll happily listen to the car care nut for 41.
You know that is really it. I have a 5th Gen 4Runer and a 90 22R Pickup. I'm a major Toyota fan and glad he posted this video. I'm still not happy about the recalls and have some concerns about the new Tacoma. I have always owned Toyotas because they are reliable and easy for me to work on. I feel for the Tundra owners that are impacted...
I mean the same thing could be said about every decade of vehicle. Take for example the previous gen tundra 5.7 engine. Imagine showing that engine to a mechanic in the 1980s they would have told you this engine is too complex and it will fail.
@@theholt2ic219 Yup it’s just a dumb thing that simple minded Toyota fans say because thinking is hard. If complexity meant unreliability and vice-versa, the Model T would be more reliable than a 90s Lexus. In reality the Model T was unreliable AF.
I will listen to this guy as being a life long Toyota mechanic. Lots of click bait on here that have never turned a wrench, but have lots of opinions. Thanks for you research and time to explain
Well to me as being a Lexus owner I am disappointed to see it. But it can happens to any car company. It's sad it's so bad though because Toyota has stressed over and over there QC. Now I love my Lexus not one that is effected and yes I know how to use a wrench and what it looks like. I do agree that they should just replace the entire Engine if not for the unknowns damage but at least for a customer perception. Yes I will still buy a Lexus or Toyota going forward.
Toyota Canada tech here. We've been dealing with these engine issues since last year. One tundra we had, literally EVERYTHING got replaced because the cylinder #1 piston literally exploded leaving the connecting rod by itself. By the end of the repairs, over 45,000$ was spent on replacing every single part. We're curious to see how Toyota is going to handle this.
Any problems with the V35 in Lexus 600's and 550's? Those vehicles are produced in Japan (chassisnumber starts with J) and so are the engines I believe? If V35's turn out to be reliable in Japanese built cars, the problem must lie with american assembly procudures for the American built Tundra. Cheers
@@Tundra38002 based off my personal experience so far, we've only seen issues with early MY2022 Tundras. I believe we had one 2023 Tundra with a bad engine but that's about it. We haven't had any issues with Tundra Hybrid or Sequoia. That's just what I've seen at my personal dealer. Other dealers/ techs may have different experiences!
@@dwgjr330 Honestly I don't think there's much to really investigate. I've seen a bunch of these blown in various different ways from a basic spun bearing all the way to the piston I mentioned exploding into chunks. Seeing the teardown on a video would be cool from a view perspective but from a diagnosis perspective there's not much there.
My 2022 TUNDRA engine stoped rotating at 27k miles. I used to have racing cars and assembled and disassembled engines lot of times and know enough to understand that with this kind of failure there should be bearing particles everywhere in the engine. The dealer said they were going to replace the broken parts. I told them and called Toyota and told them I’m not taking that truck back if they don’t put a complete new engine. I won’t take the risk of something else already effected by the present failure fails right after warranty ends. I’m waiting for news from the dealer.
Unfortunately you have a 22 truck with 27k.... Thats not how it works and Toyota knows that too. Youre on the hook financially whether you put your foot down and gruff or not. Whether they do a new short block or throw parts at your motor isnt affected by that threat.....
And its recall with lots of labor time.This is hard on dealership techs.And of course customers. In the end vehicles are just money pits. Some better than others. Retired GM tech here. This tech knows his stuff ,he is the only one I watch.
Thanks for your efforts over the years to keep GM people on the road. Do you happen to know if the 5.3 and 6.2 AFM issues have been resolved? Nice trucks. My buddy is considering one.
Yes. I’m a GM tech too. We know how they operate. This man is not working for Toyota anymore, maybe he got screwed like us by GM. I started w/GM in 1983. Glad I retired too. Can’t make money anymore.
@@0HOON0 It's luck of the draw. I know guys that have anywhere from 150k to 250k miles on their 5.3, never had a single issue with lifters. But obviously some guys out there have a lifter fail at 5,000 miles. The biggest thing is to change the oil much more often. Dirty oil causes the majority of lifter issues and too many people do 7500 mile oil changes. Direct injection makes diesel-like soot that ends up in the oil and GDI is prone to cause higher levels of unburned fuel to end up in the oil. Those two factors cause a lot of problems for lifters in the same way it causes issues with VVT systems in other engines.
Man, I love this guy. I dont, nor have I ever worked on cars, but I just love listening to this guy talking about cars and learning. Just a very well crafted, no BS channel. Love it. Congrats on all your success!
This guy makes other car review shows look like a joke. Like other shows will basically just read the spec sheet, and tell you how it drives and price. These reviews are so damn indepth and actually give you practical design knowledge about the vehicle. Bravo, subscribed.
Dealers overcharge us and then don't understand why we won't let the dealer service them. Well, if you overcharge us on the sales floor, I'm sure that policy continues in the service dept. Three times you take your car to the dealer for service: Never, Never, and Never.
Dealerships can’t afford to employ multiple certified technicians, so they utilize lesser paid ($10/hr) Valets to work in the service department, but when a child throws up in the showroom or a toilet overflows the Valet is sent back to their primary duties.
Lexus Diagnostics Specialist here. Only have had one LX600 failure in the shop. Luckily for us, only 3500 affected than a Tundra. Total agree with all your opinions. Alot of consumers and RUclips Techs thinking they no better. Yes there are some great techs at dealerships, but also some people I wouldn't trust as well.
Decades of rock-solid reliability DOES NOT mean Toyota gets a free pass for questionable design trends, falsifying test results, and shoddy manufacturing practices.
I think this is why so many people feel so angry/upset with this recall information. Toyota is supposed to be one of the safe automakers when it comes to reliability and were willing to pay a bit of a premium for it. Now that illusion has been shattered in a way with this mess. I think the severity of the issue also plays a part. It's not every day a recall is for an issue that may result in the destruction of an engine at any time. Add to it they don't have a fix yet so those driving one may feel like they have a time bomb on their hands.
@@niuhuskieguy I just feel they are no longer the company they once were and there is a mountain of evidence to support this. They simply can’t be trusted anymore.
No excuses but I take a Toyota any day. It’s not perfect but I have a neighbor who owns a KIA gathering dust in a garage 😢. Every automaker has recalls here and there. No one is perfect buddy.
You got TRD John who’s a Toyota shill and you got untamed Motors who just wants to hate on Toyota. Right in the middle you have an actual mechanic who is objective and real. Thank you car care nut
Yeah. I’m not a Toyota tech but I know he doesn’t BS anyone. As a tech, I can tell you he is a very honest man. I agree with him 99.9% of time. He is level headed, he tells both sides and the truth about pricing & technical part too. That’s the risk on mass production, if there is problem then it’ll be huge. Unless they catch it very early on. One thing I learned, everything starts from the top on down. You know what i mean.
Glad you made this video Ahmed . You are 100% correct in ALL you said . I worked in dealer as a a parts guy for 40 years . A partial engine is the only way to go on this . Short block being installed at the dealer , and then hoping everything else is ok is a really bad idea !
So you seem like the perfect person to ask. It seems fair to assume that all Tundra's built from some point in Jan of 2024 have the new block AND #1 and #4 bearing. The later #1 and #4 bearing replacement part number would for the new block assemblies. I am already seeing people in the Tundra forum saying that the factory builds will not be right until after some time in April of 2024 which is not the takeaway in my opinion. Thoughts on there two dates?
@@chadmccown4027 I am just saying that to send out a short block , and have a tech install the other used parts from the bad engine is not a good idea . Some techs are not that qualified for this job. Regardless of when the block was manufactured .
@@axelknutt5065 I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig on that repair job....I suspect there will be plenty of leftover parts and screws when the "repair" is done!!!!
Car Care Nut, this is a question that relates to this issue only in that it is about new Tundra's. Why o Why has Toyota removed a great 8 cylinder engine and replaced it with a 6 cylinder and added TWO turbos and their complex cooling systems etc. I must say up front I am not a fan of turbo chargers in my Automobiles. They add complexity, cost and add to cost of maintenance etc. A turbo for us Normal people is not a necessity and i have lived a great life w/o a turbo and intend to continue doing so. You are the man! please answer this question.
BMW S54 and S65 engine owners, Porsche M96 engine owners, we meet again. Now let's please welcome all Tundra V35A engine owners to the support group. 💕
@@jonathanyin739oh lord, I can assure you it is not. There has not been a BMW engine produced in the last 20 years that can even compare to the durability and reliability of Toyota engines. Sure the BMW engines are fun to drive, but for people looking for a vehicle that can deliver 250-350k miles of low cost ownership…people are not looking to anything German. My family drove German cars through the mid 90s, then we rapidly left and went Lexus. Not even close. I reserve German for weekend cars, that’s really what they are meant for.
@@TXJ232 The 5.7 I force V8 had early on issues, they were fixed and is now known as one of the most reliable v8s of all time. Let’s see what the next several years brings, but if history tells us anything it will most likely not be a German engine.
Toyota should just sling you a ridiculous salary and appoint you as a consultant. You are exactly what brands need - someone that loves to see the brand succeed, but isn't afraid to call out the weaknesses. Instead we get overpaid CEOs with MBAs that have no engineering or mechanic knowledge and grift from one corporate gig to the next and brand marketers that spend their days putting lipstick on a pig and telling you its a stallion.
Keep money out of this mans stream. He does it with no pull of bias, no pressure from this group or that group. IF they were to hire him to field test issues, that would be amazing for their North American Operations? I really enjoy his passion, i just don't want it compromised by money or pressure.
I worked in VW and Audi service when there were 1.8T issues in the Passat and A4. There were vehicles barely making it out of the dealership with the short block assembly lunching their turbos.. I worked in Mercedes service when they had sludge issues with the 98-01 engines. That oil with "forbidden glitter" is sitting everywhere the oil flows. Replacing the short-block only is pretty much a temporary fix.
@@mikelevitt7365yes it is. They aren’t part of the safety recall because the hybrid gives enough power to get off the road. The engines are made in the exact same plant. Look at the Google sheet and you can see hybrids failing too.
@@mikelevitt7365Same engine though. Odds are they will eventually be added. Main reason they aren’t already is the hybrid motor will get you off the highway in an emergency
As a master woodcraftsman nearing 79, I so appreciate the truthfulness and honesty of all the videos and enjoy the content regardless of there length. If it's cars, furniture or whatever you do it is necessary to master the skills and you will be rewarded in life in so many ways.
Watched him everything he said about my 2003 Toyota Camry I looked at and he was right thanks to him I’m hoping to get 400,000 miles out of it at 301,890 now thank you for your honesty and knowledge
What’s the purpose of putting thousands into a car with that many miles. I know you’re going to say your car hasn’t had an issue. All Toyota fanboys do. But in reality your transmission is slipping and you burn 2 quarts of oil a week. Your interior has more cracks than Hunter Biden. And your paint is scratched to hell.
@@tomdurkins This comment is hilarious hunter biden lol but let me say this... I own a florist so I have a fleet of 7 cars. 2 of them are toyota siennas. They are both old one of them has 360,000 miles In the last 150K of it I dont even think I spent $2,500 on repairs I do alot of the work my self but have a good mobile mechanic. In the last 150K all I can remember besides basic maintenance is (spark plugs, valve cover gaskets, timing belt, 2 drive belts, water pump, lower control arms and radiator) 2004 toyota sienna still runs good original engine and transmission. (Yes the trans does slip a little probably because I have never serviced it) The engine burns 1 quart every 3,000 miles which isnt bad for 360K
My son inlaw asked me what is the most practical, reliable vehicle to get for a growing family. I said get a 2004 Toyota sienna from original owner with dealer maintenance
i worked in manufacturing for many years. when a problem like this came about it was always look for someone to blame first then the cause. i hope they put a complete new engine in these trucks so the techs don't get the blame . good techs are harder and harder to find
They won't do that. They should, but they are definitely not going to give 200k+ Tundra owners a brand new crate engine. They'll issue this worthless safety recall that hasn't done anything and hope the attention eventually goes away. At most they'll tell owners they can take their truck to the dealer and have the bottom end inspected for bearing issues. After that it'll get buried. Just like they did a big PR thing with the rust rotting frames that excluded the majority of owners, and required owners that didn't get a replacement frame to take their truck to the dealer annually for rust inspection and have a technician hide the rust with a cheap undercoating spray.
Toyota needs to follow this man's advice. Great explanation on the problem and I loved how at the end how he directly spoke to Toyota. My next door neighbor is a Toyota tech and he has shown me pictures of cabs off the frame Tundras. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the owner whose $60k truck had to be completely disassembled. I really considered buying a Toyota, but held off based on everything going on. I want to see how Toyota and their dealers are going to handle this.
I bought my first Toyota, 2024 Tundra TRD OR. I have been watching the recall, I am not included right now, and appreciate your input. Love the channel and advice you give. Thanks and keep up the great work.
This channel has been helpful for me, I’m not a Toyota fanatic but my wife’s little 2018 Corolla is a great car much better than the 2016 I had. Unfortunately for Toyota fanatics I think this time Toyota is in a lot of trouble and it’s gonna be different this time
Toyota will make it right. Just like the last huge recall for sticking throttles. It was BS, because the floor mat getting under the gas pedal that was causing the problem and not the throttle pedal. They replaced it anyway.
finally, someone who makes sense of the whole problem. Too many videos of people who just want to hate, and make it sound like they know what they are talking about. All auto makers are not making good products right now.
I'm an engineer in a large engine plant, and he is correct: The people who build these engines are not "engine builders," just factory workers with little or no previous experience. They are given digital work instructions that shows them where to put a bolt, etc. If that bolt has the wrong thread pitch, they may still put it on anyway. Unfortunately that's the world we live in now, people in general don't take pride or passion in their work like they used to.
They are not paid enough to care unfortunately. If the whole modus operandi of a company is to cut costs to the bone why would a marginally paid worker go above and beyond the bare minimum to stay employed.
I own a 23 tundra limited. It’s great, 17k miles. I hope we don’t get a short block as the fix. I feel like that greatly deprecate the value. My understanding from by buddy who’s an engineer is that the ones not effected under the safety recall have the hybrid, as the hybrid can still move if it has a complete engine failure, hence not a highway safety concern. I don’t know if this is true, but it sounds possible. Anyways, hope we get crate motors or short blocks with 150k warranties so it’s made right by us. I traded in my 11 taco and got the tundra thinking it’s as always, bulletproof. We shall see
Literally this is the only source of truth anyone should listen to on the internet. Ignore all other RUclipsrs ASAP. My 2024 Platinum has been great so far. Will keep an ear out if it ever gets included into the recall.
As an Aviation Electrical Engineer! Well thought out and factual presentation! From during Engineering Investigations in the government, you hit on some good key points in determining “Root Cause Analysis”!
I just bought a 2008 Lexus 350rx, with 170K. One Florida owner, 28 maintenance trips to the Lexus dealer. This thing is built like a tank. No electronic gizmos tracking everything I do. I'm so happy with this older model. Oh BTW I paid $7K... I think it's worth much more
I put 600k on that engine in a pick up. Had to do a head job twice , rebuild the 5 speed trans once, and replace the transfer case once. Biggest issue I had with that engine was starters. But since it was a 5 speed just parked on a hill all the time, lmao
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Starters. Took me a few years to figure out the bell housing was cracked, so the starter didn’t line up correctly so it would eat up the starter in just a few months. I had bought the “Lifetime” warranty Autozone reman starter and after about the fifth one they wouldn’t give me anymore, lol
I think that you are the wizard of Toyota’s and I love your all your videos but there are engine builders and really great mechanics out there that don’t owe Toyotas and some of these very experienced people are just giving their opinion about what is going on and it is not good to say anything about somebody that doesn’t own a Toyota should not speak their mind on what may or may not happen , I am just giving you my thoughts and opinions so don’t hurt the messenger. I will always think and know that you are the wizard of Toyotas
My experience with a Toyota recall is with a 2006 Corolla airbags. Toyota made it right, but it took two visits to the dealer and several years to accomplish. Toyota is still the best, and I hope everything works out for the best . . .
I went to our local dealer Jeff Hunter Toyota, here in Waco TX. The service manager said he had quite a few Tundras returned with engine failure. He told me the oil feed passages were not completely machined. Many of the trucks had just a pin hole feeding the engine’s components. He said he would not even consider purchasing a new Tundra. The cost of the short block, covered by the warranty currently, is $21,000! That is a big hit! Crazy!!
We bought my wife a 2024 Tundra at the end of 2023. At 500 miles we had the dealer change the oil. Then we had them change it again at 4000. We got the extended warranty from Toyota. We'll see. Previously she had a 2021 Ford F150 2.7 Ecoboost. We didn't get extended warranty because we had never used the extended warranties we had bought in the past. As soon as the truck went off warranty all sorts of electrical gremlins appeared: It would say the anti-lock had failed, then it would say the traction control had failed, etc. Dealer couldn't isolate the problem. Basically said, "well we can replace this module for $9500, if that doesn't fix it there is another module we can replace for $8000, but we can't guarantee either of those will fix the problems." Ford said the same thing. For some reason (DEI?) the auto manufacturers are producing vehicles that are too complicated or are not sufficiently tested.
Maybe I'm being too judgemental but I don't think the dealer tried very hard to diagnose the issue. There are certainly mechanics out there who are determined and knowledgable enough to trace down an issue without using the parts cannon and wasting a ton of money.
It's not DEI dude lol is that what you think is responsible for all the ills of society? It's an incompetent dealership trying to rob you which is a tale as old as time.
@@GixxerRider1991 You have no data to back up your claim and nowhere did I say that DEI is responsible for all the ills of society. Note I wrote DEI ? It is one possible explanation as is yours. Notice however I also noted that Ford could not explain it either when the dealer pushed it up the line so it was not just the dealer. Try not to launch into hyperbole where you imagine people's motivations.
Amd - the master of Toyota and Lexus has spoken. Thank you for giving us insight. You are amazing and the best mechanic on RUclips! I wish you did livestreams and Q/A sessions!
@@wysetech2000 Scotty called out Toyota from day 1 saying it was a mistake going to Turbo engines that will cause nothing but issues and ruin longevity. He was correct.
Always appreciate your insights. I am enjoying my 2020 GX460, that I recently bought based on your excellent overview. Blessings to you and your family.
Thanks for being the voice of reason. This, and Tinkerers Adventure are the only channels I put any faith in, the others are all clickbait and fluff who design content with clicks in mind, not actual facts and data.
My wife and I own a 2002 Limited 4x4 4runner with 236k miles and a 2006 Tacoma Prerunner with 283k miles. I will do maintenance and fix whatever needs to be fixed before I spend $80K+ on one of these new Yotas.
A issue that needs to be looked at is the Main bearing were made without a tang and the Blocks were not machined for the tang to locate into and to keep them from spinning in the main bearing journals.
Toyota should send you a formal thank-you note and make TMMC a "Platinum Independent Service Facility" (or something to that effect, if there is such a thing). As a several-decades-long Toyota owner (currently Avalon and Camry), I appreciate your insight and, very importantly, your "stay calm" message - hearing that from you means more than it would from the manufacturer. I hope that Toyota executives will see this video and listen to your advice - honestly, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't at least take it into consideration.
I work at a small toyota dealer (under 600/700 cars a year new sold) in Canada. We have had 1 catastrophic failure, 1 major rod knock metal shaving bearings in the oil engine. And 1 just starting to knock with lots of shavings in the pan. In addition we have had 2 other tundras with turbo failures. The repair under warranty is basically every single piece of the engine. Heads valves valve cover short block oil cooler both turbos all the lines, cams, cam housings cam gears all the chains, tensioners, guides. Rocker arm and valve lash adjuster. Vaccum pump pn non hybrids. Timing cover. Basically every component. On most of the engine failures even the cam bearing surfaces and cams are scarred. Badly. Turbo issues relate to wastegate issues. Also had new 23 highland 2.4l turbo wastegate failure at 10k KM. Tundras were between 20 and 43k KM.
@LoneWolfSparty Nope, haven't called it back yet. Also had ECM failure same vehicle. Test process had us replace ecm first. If issue persisted. Then turbo assembly. They did call back some defect taillights from a tundra today though.
@@Brennen666CA that... is odd. I'd expect them to call for that at some point TBH. Because usually the stuff that comes out of Indiana is typically solid from what I've seen.
This guy is the King!!! Forget about nice screen, to the door panel and twinkies twinkies !!! He go exactly to the problem, causes and solutions. Thanks for all the knowledge and mecanic data!!!
I will never give up my 2019 Tundra Limited 5.7L i-FORCE V8 engine............. E V E R Engine and Trans are bullet proof with proper oil/fluid changes. 5,000 on the engine oil and 30,000 on the trans, diffs, and transfer cases. I would right this minute drive from the east coast to the west coast, do my own oil change, and drive back with no thought of breaking down.
I have a 2014 1794 with 178k on it. Have had ZERO issues. Glad to buy gas instead of being out of my truck for months with an engine issue. Not to mention the $800 payment I don’t have!
But Toyota is supposed to test and evaluate everything way before it comes out to the public they're slipping they're cutting corners and they're going to lose customers not only with the quality going down but also with the Sky High pricing they have now
That applies to a lot of situations: same with not buying a new house during a boom between likely overpaying, builders cutting corners or merely hiring inexperienced people versus the seasoned people they keep around when business conditions are bad
This is the best video on RUclips, by far, on the V35A-FTS engine bearing failure issue. The most intriguing thing about it is AMD's hint that engines produced after April 2024 will probably have updated parts that have probably fixed the front main bearing durability issue. This in turn means that shoppers who want to by a new Tundra may be able to get one now or in the next month or two with the new, extra durable version of the V6 engine PLUS get the incredible low APR financing and $8,000 below MSRP deals on the truck that corporate Toyota is offering to get the truck selling well again.
Yeah that is why I really only cared about his video on the subject. Everyone honestly just read the recall notice, just blamed the turbos or said bring back the V8. AMD really made sense of things and even he doesn’t believe it’s just machining issues. Let’s hope Toyota makes things right though. It would be best to replace entire engines because imagine an inexperienced tech tearing this engine apart and rebuilding it in a fixed schedule.
I'm on my 13th Toyota and specifically purchased two of the last V8 Tundras, plus a 23 gx 460, to avoid the certain bumps that the new v6TT engines would inevitably have. I love Toyota but even they can't get an entirely new powertrain perfect in the first couple of years. I expect Toyota will make it right and then get it right, but for truck owners now this is limited comfort. Some of my first gen Tundras had frame issues but Toyota made it right. This new problem is more complicated of course.
I will say that their reputation has not completely been diminished. It can still be saved. For the most part, they have been very good at fixing the issues they addressed. There seems to be a exponential correlation between more technology/tighter regulations and less reliability all across the industry.
EPA!!! EMISSION, MPG ,Things needed to be changed. Beside how reliable was 2nd gen Tundra, how gas thirsty are those 2nd gen trucks. Think about it that Ford's Super Duty half ton axle truck has better MPG than light duty Tundra.
What about the 3.0 v6 in the T100 and Tacomas 1993-1995? How about the first year of the 5.7 in the Tundra in 07’? Toyota rectified both issues and they will come clean on this as well. Personally I would never buy a turbo, but to each their own. On my 8th Toyota pickup a 2015 Tundra 5.7, guzzles the fuel, but rock solid reliability.
I think it's the culture, they have a horrible population problem thus the old skilled workers are dying and are not being replaced by new citizens. Nobody wants to work 80 hrs a week anymore. Just my theory
AMD, I suspect this was not the sort of 'Unveiling My New Tundra ' video you had in mind. 😉😉 I wish good luck to those switching to Ford, GM or Fiat. 🤞🤞🤞
Having an issue like this certainly isn't ideal, but I trust Toyota to find the cause and take care of their customers far more than most other brands.
This guy is a master, the best there is out there for all things Toyota. Keep up the great work, watch all your content from Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada
2001 Camry 6 banger. Bought it brand new. My mechanic says it drives like a Lexus. So far, I've had to do nothing to the engine, tranny, and air conditioning. It's got a 1MZ-FE engine. It's my understanding opinions are mixed on that engine model. Something about it being susceptible to oil sludge. After 23 years mine doesn't burn any oil in-between oil changes (2x per year). It's got 220k miles on it.
I have a 2022, received it early February. I changed the oil around the first 2K miles myself. I just broke 20K miles, I'm going on next week to service about 3 recalls. I think one is the parking brake, transmission possible issue, fuel filler part. Oil pressure responds on demand needs. I love my truck, I hope it last me 500K miles. I've had about 3 past recoils that was serviced a while back, yes a few flaws like rattling center console buttons, rear window seals don't meet all the way (the internals have drains at the bottom, so no concern there). I'd hate to have a tech rip it apart for a turbo or engine bearing failure but I'd still keep it. I made a sweet deal at the dealer with my Denali that I had 6 years of constant issues, (transmission the biggest one) I ended getting the 125K warranty 8 years because the truck was a completely new design. I hope toyota resolves this issue as everything else they've done in the past, hope it isn't as bad as it looks in the internet. Things happen, this engine design has a ton of technology in it and designed and tested to 3 to 5 million miles before failure, so I'd think if it is good then it will last longer than the truck itself in theory. hope I don't eat my words, LOL!
First of all, people are really upset because the expectation of people that buy Toyota is that they are getting a quality truck that is reliable and lasts a long time. These trucks are very expensive and are a large part of the family budget. In some states a new vehicle can only be out of service so long and then it qualifies for a buy back or new vehicle replacement under lemon law. If I were in this situation I would be consulting a lawyer. I was considering buying a new 23 Tundra and trading my 2020 Tacoma. So happy I didn’t! My Tacoma has had zero issues in 89,000 miles! Good video! You’re presenting the facts, opposed to the highly speculative stuff that’s fueling panic of Tundra owners.
The complexity of modern engines to reach out of limit force is out of the charts. I got a 24' 2500HD silverado with the 6.6 gasser. OLD school technology, iron block, reliable, strong, and I know will not fail. Modern diesel and turbo engines have just excess power. Complexity plus aluminum, plastic, sensors is the perfect recipe for failure. The most reliable machines are made from iron blocks, simple design, and decades of duty. The new Tacoma engine will suffer too, just like the Tundra. Is inevitable......
This guy is an absolute car nut (hence the name, maybe)! The best and most accurate explanation that those of us, who didn't fall for the new engine, were waiting to hear. I couldn't watch the whole video, but just let it play to help the view number. Buying a 5th gen 4 Runner while they last. Many thanks!
Love your information Some people don’t understand Motets can fail It doesn’t matter who’s manufactured it. Toyota though has always come through. We hope that they keep there good reputation and nips it in the but. Thanks for your input and advice.
@@MathiasJarlsonwhy is that? Likely their truck will be perfectly fine, and if the worst occurs they’ll likely get a new engine out of it free of charge.
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@@ALMX5DP Sure, free of charge only if Toyota approves it and it will still take months to fix. Months of not being able to drive your brand new $70k truck.
If there’s a know widespread issue, it’ll be recalled and taken care of. Yes there is a chance that it’ll take some time though there’s really only speculation right now as to what the fix is or will be and how quickly Toyota will remedy it.
One of my friends who was testing driving the new TX actually had the engine seize up, basically destroying the block. The sewell lexus dealership here in Dallas, TX area didn't know what happened, and this actually prevented them from buying one.
Wow, engine failure on a test drive is pretty embarrassing! Reminds me of an old friend who sold Nissan's back in the 90's... the maxima had a Nissan logo that covered the trunk keyhole, when he closed the trunk the logo fell off and bounced around on the ground, the customers left before taking a test drive 😂
Holy cow! Lets hope the 350 new workers Toyota hired for the Alabama engine assembly plant will be making new, durable versions of this engine for installation in 2022 to early 2024 vehicles.
I was unaware of the engine problem on these trucks, when I bought my 2024 Tundra in February. Shortly after I found out about this, I had the oil changed at our shop at 534 miles. We added another Toyota filter and Mobil SAE 0W20 Full synthetic. We use this for all oil changes in our fleet of Tundra trucks. We looked at the oil in a clear glass container and found NO metal particulates. The filter did not have debris in it that we could find. We changed the oil at our shop at 1900 miles and again, NO metal particulates. The filter did not have debris in it that we could find. What did find is - there was a heavy gasoline smell in the engine oil. I will point out that this vehicle, when it first starts up, the vehicle runs in Direct Injection. Our question, is that with, prolonged oil changes, combined with the fact that the oil is getting washed down with gasoline, possibly caused by an injector dumping fuel into the cylinders, could this be the cause of the failure - bearing wash? We are going to continue to change the oil frequently on the Tundra and observe the oil. I will post anything we find. Plate C
I'm keeping my 1st gen and 3rd gen Tacoma. If folks are going to want a v8, get a Nissan Titan. The Frontier is a great alternative and much cheaper -- with a v6. If I'm in the market today, that's what I get. Nissan have those engines for a long time now and they are solid. Dont confuse that with their crappy CVT.
In the shop I worked in for several years. The boss bought a 2022 Titan V8. The engine lasted 17.000K before it started hammering. There was a production problem with the cylinder bores on several 1000 engines. There was NO crying from anyone and was replaced under warranty. The truck is a piece of junk anyway.
This is an excellent video. I'm a first time Toyota Tacoma owner also with a recall. I like the product, but the dealers are horrible. They are rude and greedy. Toyota let's this happen and does not address the issue. Do they act on the surveys? No not that I've seen.
I despise the "its under warranty anyway" angle. Problems so early in its life are not a good sign for longevity, and when I purchase a new vehicle for absurd amounts of money, I expect to drive it, consistently, not a loaner from the dealer. Especially a Toyota. Bottom line - Toyota trucks became a success because of reliability and longevity. This is a drastic departure, especially from what seems to be carelessness in manufacturing. Along w the new truck transmission issues, this paints a dire picture of quality standards at Toyota. Avoid.
@@BeefNEggs057yeah right 😂ford now recalling 550,000 fords for the 2014 transmissions failure for downshifting into 1st gear at any speed 😮!!! How long have they know about that failure? 🤔😏
You are talking about a 10 year old truck that's way out of warranty. A trans rebuild is $4k. A new tundra short block replacement is $32k. Most of these tundra's will be scrapped before 10 years.
Sir, you were up to something about replacing oil at 500 miles. Please do it sooner. Toyota said that the oil was contaminated by debris from the engine assembly. Please change the oil on your Thundra ASAP.
If I am not mistaken, Scotty has claimed that every manufacturer will go bankrupt, fail and ever new design will have problems. And if you wait long enough he will always be correct as even a broken clock is right twice a day
@@jackanderson2773 If you were old enough, you would remember that a simular thing happened in the early 1970s when the EPA mandated emissions limitations, only now the issue is with mandated emissions and fuel economy standards. Back then the American manufacturers produced dogs with quality control issues and Japanese brands produced high quality reliable vehicles while still meeting emission standards. While all manufacturers are having difficulty today, Toyota seems to be the GM of the 2020s living on a past reputation that is no longer valid. Their slogan should be "We aren't your father's Toyota anymore".
@@jackanderson2773 There was odd/even but that was if you could even find a gas station with gas. Lines of 20+ cars per pump and before you got to the pump they ran out of gas. It was not the price of gas, you could not find gas at any price. But it was the catalytic converter, EGR, air pump addons required by emission standards that resulted in a gas guzzling 350 V8 engines to put out no more than 145 Hp. And for various reasons American quality took a nose dive. Vietnam war, anti-war protests, Watergate, national guards shooting unarmed college protesters, counter culture, race riots, and gas shortages, but at least there was sex, drugs, and rock and roll. And people think what is happening today is the end of America....really?
To give you an idea of how low the known number is, our local dealer works only one truck at a time because it’s a cab off repair and it takes 6 to 8 weeks for all the parts a work to be completed. The kicker is that they currently have six trucks waiting for the repairs and the number is growing faster than they can get the work done. All the trucks have less than 60k on them and three have less than 10k, one of which is less than 5k. Toyota’s reputation for quality is quickly falling apart. Add in all the transmission problems they are having with the Tacoma, it could be disastrous for Toyota.
Thank you for the video. I’ll be happy to see information on your new Tundra, congratulations btw. I’m driving my Tacoma for a bit longer so I’ll be following your progress.
I was an automotive tech for over 50 years and as soon as I said that I have seen it all, something worse came along. This problem is a little strange for sure. Why does the problem start with #1 Main bearing? Metal debris is not just a theory, but a fact. Even though the failed engines are from different assembly plants in different countries, the machining and build procedures are the same. The multi-million dollar machines are all computer controlled but the software that runs those machines are written by humans. First strike! Being a Japanese company, at It's roots, not many of us know what kind of people they are. I can tell you that someone I know very well who is an older Japanese man has told me that every one of them take a bad customer experience very seriously and personally. They are very proud people and embarrassed when things go wrong. They all take a failure personally. In the end, I'm sure the cause of problem will be found and corrected with as little inconvenience as possible. Reputation is taken very seriously. That said, My Dad purchased a 1955 Ford wagon. I was only 5 yo at the time but I still remember the day he picked it up from the dealer and all 7 of us piled in to go for a drive. The engine was very noisy and my dad said the noise was getting worse by the minute. We made it back home and the next day he returned it to the dealer. At only 355 miles they had to replace the short block because the factory forgot to drill an oil passage to oil the rocker arms and valves. Not a whole engine but a short block was replaced! That engine lasted for 14 years and 150.000 miles, which was high mileage in those days. I am confident that Toyota will make up for their mistake and a better product will be the result.
I'm wondering if those proud days are over and if we are just getting played. The cheating with safety testing is over maaaaaany years and different brands. Seems like a cultural thing now.
This BS about the Japanese taking every failure personally is a total myth. You’re talking about the same company that was just caught lying about test results.
@@billb.2673 I guess my Japanese neighbor is a myth as well. There is ZERO proof of lying and could have been a mistake. I bet you hate everyone and everything as well, accept yourself.
@@Harrythehun I have no proof but I understand it was a printing error of the door stickers. If you're blabbing about emissions, you have the wrong company.
1990 (when they got 1 star out of 5 in crash rating) to 2024 was a great run where they become #1 worldwide. Markups and unreliability are quickly destroying 35 years of accumulated greatness.
Interesting. I bought a used 2006 Lexus GS300 in 2012. 54k miles and in pristine condition. I only had it about two months when the check engine light came on. Took it to the dealership. They told me that the vehicle had excessive carbon build up and needed engine work. Lexus gave me a loaner and had my car at their shop for over a month. At one point, I stopped by the dealership and saw that the engine was out of the car and completely apart. When I got the car back it ran perfectly. Zero cost. I still own this car today and it's really nice. 130k miles and no issues. Not even an oil leak! I believe the trouble was with the wrong pistons, piston rods, and rings that had to be replaced. In my case the fix from Lexus was excellent. In this Tundra case over a 100,000+ vehicles may present some additional issues? Patience and perseverance is the name of the game. I believe Toyota will make it good.
Same story with my 2007 IS350. It ran fine with 75k miles, they took it in for a week due to excessive carbon buildup, came back with new engine ran perfect for another 200k miles.
@@chrislovell7448 Yes, Lexus treated me very well indeed also. Maybe things have changed, but I will stick with Lexus. Actually, I hope to keep my current car for many more years.....
The ONLY channel I trust when it comes to getting honest information
My motto. Trust no one. ....and it works.
Scotty Kilmer is another one.
I believe 95% of the RUclips channels who talk about cars/SUV's have no business telling anyone anything. This channel and maybe a handful I really trust.
Toyota maintenance channel is good too !
@@haveaday1812CLICKBAIT Scotty 😂😂😅
Im a current toyota MDT. I was one of the early lucky techs to have rebuilt a 23 Tundra engine back in July last year. The engine was torn down for inspection, followed by a 55 day wait for parts. This was easily one of the most overly complex engines I have ever worked on.
Sorry dude, what’s an MDT?
@@randydiaz5951From the video Car Care Nut said he was a Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician. So, maybe that?
@@randydiaz5951 Master Diagnostic Technician
In other words, this is basically not an engine that should be in a truck..... not that any of the other automakers are building anything better.....
@@harryvaldenor nice, make sense!
Every once in a while, there is actually someone on RUclips that knows what they are talking about. You sir are one of those rare individuals! Thanks!
Aren’t u a little worried that he’s now reached a level where he’s been bought off by Toyota? The company has paid people to take down videos so it wouldn’t surprise me. How has this guy not come across just ONE of these engines by now? Anyway, I want u to be right, maybe I’m being cynical - but maybe I’m right.
@@newbluerugby he used to work for Toyota dealership. Now he has his own auto shop. He understand have have fixed all Toyota engines from the 80's to the latest 2023 engines
@@newbluerugby If Toyota actually pays to take down videos, it is a new low. Toyota just decided to be GM, damn.
@@newbluerugby He's not a warranty provider. He's a former Toyota official mechanic working his own repair shop now.
I trust you tubers more than main stream media
I'm a retired master tech. The wrong technician not paying attention can break a lot of shit replacing an entire engine on a modern car/truck 😴🙈
How old were you when you retired? I always I had been a good auto mechanic. I am now 69 years old.
Not bad at all. Still a lot lower failure rate than most other manufacturers especially across their while line up.
Recalls go two ways. Initiated by the Manufacturer and the government isn't involved but included. Or initiated by the government and forced upon the manufacturer.
Unfortunately use the same name.
Being in the jndustry for 35 years, 32 of it in a Toyota dealership. The government has never mandated a recall upon Toyota. Their average recall falls well below most manufactures level of failure rate to invoke even an inquire into a consideration of a recall.
Toyota would not approve/pay a claim if the tech wasn't at the master level skill rating. You have to be on a approved list that matches or exceeds minimum level to do warranty work on any recall/special service campaign. Plain and simple.
@@robertragsdale6955this is not true. I’ve seen it first hand. It should be true. But it’s not. Bottom line if the work needs to get done and someone’s available the works being completed whether it’s under someone else’s name or not.
@@beretta8633 yes there are thiefs and snakes crooked dealers. But its harder and harder to do these days with electronic repair orders. The manufactures see everything. Has to be under the techs name. When you were using flag sheets it was easy. Not any more when its 100 percent electronic. They can also see if they are flagged on two repair orders at sema time. The DMS (dealer management systems work for the manufactures to assist in warranty fraud at the dealer level. Things can still be done. But not near as coming as it use to be. L1
This man is on the money. I'm in a business that services dealerships and the worst thing Toyota could do is to not replace the complete engine. Dealerships hate warranty work, because they don't make the money on it that the normal repairs generate. Therefore they usually put their lowest paid (least experienced) mechanic on the warranty jobs. Do you really want a kid out of trade school rebuilding your very complex modern engine?
Great channel.
You're right, Toyota should send replacement engines to the dealerships, and take the old one and repair them centrally themselves. That way they control the quality of the repair.
Inexcusable not to replace the entire engine. No reason to pay the toyota premium anymore.
AMD and actual past mechanics talked about this problem. I'm so alerted by this that if I ever get myself into a warranty work scenario I will be having a discussion with the service manager and technician. If Toyota can't fix it maybe I can at least get ahead of it and make sure they don't take short cuts, even if I go out of pocket.
Dealers literally get paid by the manufacturer to do warranty work
@@TheRealCatofyou’re aware that the dealerships doing the work is, against the lowest paid techs, they’ll have the journeymen doing other repairs that customers pay good money for.
This guy is such a good mechanic and humble person, i don't miss any video of him
Because he is a Christian who loves his neighbor and the Lord . He has integrity.
@@polishhotdog933 The love rainbow people force their will and don't approve of your kind.
He knows his stuff and his limitations.
@@polishhotdog933 He's accountable to the most high God. I respect that.
@@NVRAMboi 👍
This is the only guy on RUclips I really want to hear talk about this. Everybody else either likes to ignore certain facts, don’t have the knowledge or the will to educate their viewers, or just choose to play angry with gloom & doom clickbait titles because their angry viewers want something to relate to.
Some RUclipsrs are hard to listen to for 8-10 minutes. I’ll happily listen to the car care nut for 41.
Exactly.
Yup!
You know that is really it. I have a 5th Gen 4Runer and a 90 22R Pickup. I'm a major Toyota fan and glad he posted this video. I'm still not happy about the recalls and have some concerns about the new Tacoma. I have always owned Toyotas because they are reliable and easy for me to work on. I feel for the Tundra owners that are impacted...
Agree. 71 retired diyer prefer working on Toyota and Honda.
"Play angry with gloom & doom clickbait titles " are you talking about that old curmudgeon Scotty?
AMD, Is the E.F Hutton of the auto world. When he talks,People listen.
Can't say of about this man integrity...
Such a joy to listen to.
Complexity will remain the Enemy of Reliability.
Crazy i didn't know this is the first engine to use main bearings. So technology. Much complex.
I mean the same thing could be said about every decade of vehicle. Take for example the previous gen tundra 5.7 engine. Imagine showing that engine to a mechanic in the 1980s they would have told you this engine is too complex and it will fail.
@@theholt2ic219 Yup it’s just a dumb thing that simple minded Toyota fans say because thinking is hard. If complexity meant unreliability and vice-versa, the Model T would be more reliable than a 90s Lexus. In reality the Model T was unreliable AF.
Simplicity is the signature of perfection.
I have to agree but complexity is going to get worse and not better.
I will listen to this guy as being a life long Toyota mechanic. Lots of click bait on here that have never turned a wrench, but have lots of opinions. Thanks for you research and time to explain
Yes ,TOO many chirps from people who don’t even know what a wrench looks like 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Even Toyota quality is going downhill!!
@@AudiophileTommy Do you even lift, bro?
Well to me as being a Lexus owner I am disappointed to see it. But it can happens to any car company. It's sad it's so bad though because Toyota has stressed over and over there QC. Now I love my Lexus not one that is effected and yes I know how to use a wrench and what it looks like. I do agree that they should just replace the entire Engine if not for the unknowns damage but at least for a customer perception. Yes I will still buy a Lexus or Toyota going forward.
🏆 Toyota dethrone General Motors.
Who's gonna be thrown Toyota ❔️
Toyota Canada tech here. We've been dealing with these engine issues since last year. One tundra we had, literally EVERYTHING got replaced because the cylinder #1 piston literally exploded leaving the connecting rod by itself. By the end of the repairs, over 45,000$ was spent on replacing every single part.
We're curious to see how Toyota is going to handle this.
Any problems with the V35 in Lexus 600's and 550's? Those vehicles are produced in Japan (chassisnumber starts with J) and so are the engines I believe? If V35's turn out to be reliable in Japanese built cars, the problem must lie with american assembly procudures for the American built Tundra.
Cheers
Do you see this in the 24 Tundras?
I would love to see AMD get his mitts on one of these blown engines- would be an interesting teardown and education
@@Tundra38002 based off my personal experience so far, we've only seen issues with early MY2022 Tundras. I believe we had one 2023 Tundra with a bad engine but that's about it. We haven't had any issues with Tundra Hybrid or Sequoia.
That's just what I've seen at my personal dealer. Other dealers/ techs may have different experiences!
@@dwgjr330 Honestly I don't think there's much to really investigate. I've seen a bunch of these blown in various different ways from a basic spun bearing all the way to the piston I mentioned exploding into chunks.
Seeing the teardown on a video would be cool from a view perspective but from a diagnosis perspective there's not much there.
My 2022 TUNDRA engine stoped rotating at 27k miles. I used to have racing cars and assembled and disassembled engines lot of times and know enough to understand that with this kind of failure there should be bearing particles everywhere in the engine. The dealer said they were going to replace the broken parts. I told them and called Toyota and told them I’m not taking that truck back if they don’t put a complete new engine. I won’t take the risk of something else already effected by the present failure fails right after warranty ends. I’m waiting for news from the dealer.
keep
us apprised. i’m very curious how Toyota handles this.
Unfortunately you have a 22 truck with 27k....
Thats not how it works and Toyota knows that too. Youre on the hook financially whether you put your foot down and gruff or not. Whether they do a new short block or throw parts at your motor isnt affected by that threat.....
Most of us have heard about the recall, but The Car Care Nut is THE explanation we've all been waiting for
TFL also did a great breakdown on it.
@aussie2uGA no they did not! They just rehased the same info that we already know
Why don't you suck his nuts while your at it.
Exactly right !❤
I agree,
Who else wants to see amd get his hands on an engine to tear down.
And its recall with lots of labor time.This is hard on dealership techs.And of course customers. In the end vehicles are just money pits. Some better than others. Retired GM tech here. This tech knows his stuff ,he is the only one I watch.
Thanks for your efforts over the years to keep GM people on the road.
Do you happen to know if the 5.3 and 6.2 AFM issues have been resolved?
Nice trucks. My buddy is considering one.
Yes. I’m a GM tech too. We know how they operate. This man is not working for Toyota anymore, maybe he got screwed like us by GM.
Yes. I’m a GM tech too. We know how they operate. This man is not working for Toyota anymore, maybe he got screwed like us by GM. I started w/GM in 1983. Glad I retired too. Can’t make money anymore.
You nailed it about cars just being money pits.
@@0HOON0 It's luck of the draw. I know guys that have anywhere from 150k to 250k miles on their 5.3, never had a single issue with lifters. But obviously some guys out there have a lifter fail at 5,000 miles. The biggest thing is to change the oil much more often. Dirty oil causes the majority of lifter issues and too many people do 7500 mile oil changes. Direct injection makes diesel-like soot that ends up in the oil and GDI is prone to cause higher levels of unburned fuel to end up in the oil. Those two factors cause a lot of problems for lifters in the same way it causes issues with VVT systems in other engines.
Man, I love this guy. I dont, nor have I ever worked on cars, but I just love listening to this guy talking about cars and learning. Just a very well crafted, no BS channel. Love it. Congrats on all your success!
This guy makes other car review shows look like a joke. Like other shows will basically just read the spec sheet, and tell you how it drives and price. These reviews are so damn indepth and actually give you practical design knowledge about the vehicle. Bravo, subscribed.
Dealers overcharge us and then don't understand why we won't let the dealer service them. Well, if you overcharge us on the sales floor, I'm sure that policy continues in the service dept. Three times you take your car to the dealer for service: Never, Never, and Never.
Dealerships can’t afford to employ multiple certified technicians, so they utilize lesser paid ($10/hr) Valets to work in the service department, but when a child throws up in the showroom or a toilet overflows the Valet is sent back to their primary duties.
I agree 99%. I only take my car to the dealership for the transmission oil service. That’s it.
@@sjay149lol what?
Lexus Diagnostics Specialist here. Only have had one LX600 failure in the shop. Luckily for us, only 3500 affected than a Tundra. Total agree with all your opinions. Alot of consumers and RUclips Techs thinking they no better. Yes there are some great techs at dealerships, but also some people I wouldn't trust as well.
How many miles were on that failed lx? I have a 24’ date stamped 02/24
We had an 2022 LX600 with only 43k miles
So if you had to eat an apple and knew that say.....25% of them were poisonous......would you eat an apple from the bushel?
as a Lexus specialist, would you buy a 2024 RX350 made in Canada or Japan? Be honest please.
Decades of rock-solid reliability DOES NOT mean Toyota gets a free pass for questionable design trends, falsifying test results, and shoddy manufacturing practices.
True
I think this is why so many people feel so angry/upset with this recall information. Toyota is supposed to be one of the safe automakers when it comes to reliability and were willing to pay a bit of a premium for it. Now that illusion has been shattered in a way with this mess. I think the severity of the issue also plays a part. It's not every day a recall is for an issue that may result in the destruction of an engine at any time. Add to it they don't have a fix yet so those driving one may feel like they have a time bomb on their hands.
Government
@@niuhuskieguy I just feel they are no longer the company they once were and there is a mountain of evidence to support this. They simply can’t be trusted anymore.
No excuses but I take a Toyota any day. It’s not perfect but I have a neighbor who owns a KIA gathering dust in a garage 😢. Every automaker has recalls here and there. No one is perfect buddy.
You got TRD John who’s a Toyota shill and you got untamed Motors who just wants to hate on Toyota. Right in the middle you have an actual mechanic who is objective and real. Thank you car care nut
TRD stands for TURD. LOL
Yeah. I’m not a Toyota tech but I know he doesn’t BS anyone. As a tech, I can tell you he is a very honest man. I agree with him 99.9% of time. He is level headed, he tells both sides and the truth about pricing & technical part too. That’s the risk on mass production, if there is problem then it’ll be huge. Unless they catch it very early on. One thing I learned, everything starts from the top on down. You know what i mean.
Glad you made this video Ahmed . You are 100% correct in ALL you said . I worked in dealer as a a parts guy for 40 years . A partial engine is the only way to go on this . Short block being installed at the dealer , and then hoping everything else is ok is a really bad idea !
So you seem like the perfect person to ask. It seems fair to assume that all Tundra's built from some point in Jan of 2024 have the new block AND #1 and #4 bearing. The later #1 and #4 bearing replacement part number would for the new block assemblies. I am already seeing people in the Tundra forum saying that the factory builds will not be right until after some time in April of 2024 which is not the takeaway in my opinion. Thoughts on there two dates?
@@chadmccown4027 I am just saying that to send out a short block , and have a tech install the other used parts from the bad engine is not a good idea . Some techs are not that qualified for this job. Regardless of when the block was manufactured .
@@zonie70but it sounds like they’re going to get plenty of experience doing this warranty work.
@@axelknutt5065 I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig on that repair job....I suspect there will be plenty of leftover parts and screws when the "repair" is done!!!!
Car Care Nut, this is a question that relates to this issue only in that it is about new Tundra's. Why o Why has Toyota removed a great 8 cylinder engine and replaced it with a 6 cylinder and added TWO turbos and their complex cooling systems etc. I must say up front I am not a fan of turbo chargers in my Automobiles. They add complexity, cost and add to cost of maintenance etc. A turbo for us Normal people is not a necessity and i have lived a great life w/o a turbo and intend to continue doing so. You are the man! please answer this question.
BMW S54 and S65 engine owners, Porsche M96 engine owners, we meet again. Now let's please welcome all Tundra V35A engine owners to the support group. 💕
And yet Toyota is using BMW engines in their Supra. Crazy
@@bmwlane8834B58 is way better than this Toyota V6TT engine.
@@jonathanyin739oh lord, I can assure you it is not. There has not been a BMW engine produced in the last 20 years that can even compare to the durability and reliability of Toyota engines. Sure the BMW engines are fun to drive, but for people looking for a vehicle that can deliver 250-350k miles of low cost ownership…people are not looking to anything German. My family drove German cars through the mid 90s, then we rapidly left and went Lexus. Not even close. I reserve German for weekend cars, that’s really what they are meant for.
@@hokie9910
The B58 and S58 have already proven more reliable than the V35A.
@@TXJ232 The 5.7 I force V8 had early on issues, they were fixed and is now known as one of the most reliable v8s of all time. Let’s see what the next several years brings, but if history tells us anything it will most likely not be a German engine.
Toyota should just sling you a ridiculous salary and appoint you as a consultant. You are exactly what brands need - someone that loves to see the brand succeed, but isn't afraid to call out the weaknesses. Instead we get overpaid CEOs with MBAs that have no engineering or mechanic knowledge and grift from one corporate gig to the next and brand marketers that spend their days putting lipstick on a pig and telling you its a stallion.
Toyotas CEO is an engineer and automotive enthusiast.
@@dirtydogthecold5430most Toyota fans are dumb.
Keep money out of this mans stream. He does it with no pull of bias, no pressure from this group or that group.
IF they were to hire him to field test issues, that would be amazing for their North American Operations?
I really enjoy his passion, i just don't want it compromised by money or pressure.
Toyota going the way of Boeing
See: Boeing
I worked in VW and Audi service when there were 1.8T issues in the Passat and A4. There were vehicles barely making it out of the dealership with the short block assembly lunching their turbos.. I worked in Mercedes service when they had sludge issues with the 98-01 engines. That oil with "forbidden glitter" is sitting everywhere the oil flows. Replacing the short-block only is pretty much a temporary fix.
refreshing to see someone who is actually interested in facts and not echoing fear and speculation
I have a 2022 Tundra 1794 Edition. I now have 60,000 miles on it with no issues. One can only hope.
Your engine is the I-Force Max, which is not affected by this issue...
@@mikelevitt7365yes it is. They aren’t part of the safety recall because the hybrid gives enough power to get off the road. The engines are made in the exact same plant. Look at the Google sheet and you can see hybrids failing too.
@@mikelevitt7365Same engine though. Odds are they will eventually be added. Main reason they aren’t already is the hybrid motor will get you off the highway in an emergency
You very well be in the clear. I agree with the Car Care Nut that owners should sit tight. The situation will only get better from here.
Past the 100k threshold, you'll be ok
As a master woodcraftsman nearing 79, I so appreciate the truthfulness and honesty of all the videos and enjoy the content regardless of there length. If it's cars, furniture or whatever you do it is necessary to master the skills and you will be rewarded in life in so many ways.
Because being a master wood Craftsman matters? You're just on here bragging about your own trade. Piss off old man
Watched him everything he said about my 2003 Toyota Camry I looked at and he was right thanks to him I’m hoping to get 400,000 miles out of it at 301,890 now thank you for your honesty and knowledge
What’s the purpose of putting thousands into a car with that many miles. I know you’re going to say your car hasn’t had an issue. All Toyota fanboys do. But in reality your transmission is slipping and you burn 2 quarts of oil a week. Your interior has more cracks than Hunter Biden. And your paint is scratched to hell.
Still beats a new car payment!
@@tomdurkins This comment is hilarious hunter biden lol but let me say this... I own a florist so I have a fleet of 7 cars. 2 of them are toyota siennas. They are both old one of them has 360,000 miles In the last 150K of it I dont even think I spent $2,500 on repairs I do alot of the work my self but have a good mobile mechanic. In the last 150K all I can remember besides basic maintenance is (spark plugs, valve cover gaskets, timing belt, 2 drive belts, water pump, lower control arms and radiator) 2004 toyota sienna still runs good original engine and transmission. (Yes the trans does slip a little probably because I have never serviced it) The engine burns 1 quart every 3,000 miles which isnt bad for 360K
My son inlaw asked me what is the most practical, reliable vehicle to get for a growing family. I said get a 2004 Toyota sienna from original owner with dealer maintenance
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh it is extremely reliable
i worked in manufacturing for many years. when a problem like this came about it was always look for someone to blame first then the cause. i hope they put a complete new engine in these trucks so the techs don't get the blame . good techs are harder and harder to find
So crazy to see how much your channel has grown. Much well deserved!
As a new Tundra owner Toyota needs to confirm the issue and replace the whole engine and give us owner a longer extended warranty.
Unfortunately this will not happen. Fans and preachers of “reliability” will correct everything with words.
@@trumpeldorf don't be dumb. Toyota has to act.
@@JIPlatium The problem is much bigger and not only with this engine in the Tundra.. Toyota will have to change a lot of engines.
They won't do that. They should, but they are definitely not going to give 200k+ Tundra owners a brand new crate engine. They'll issue this worthless safety recall that hasn't done anything and hope the attention eventually goes away. At most they'll tell owners they can take their truck to the dealer and have the bottom end inspected for bearing issues. After that it'll get buried. Just like they did a big PR thing with the rust rotting frames that excluded the majority of owners, and required owners that didn't get a replacement frame to take their truck to the dealer annually for rust inspection and have a technician hide the rust with a cheap undercoating spray.
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Toyota needs to follow this man's advice. Great explanation on the problem and I loved how at the end how he directly spoke to Toyota. My next door neighbor is a Toyota tech and he has shown me pictures of cabs off the frame Tundras. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the owner whose $60k truck had to be completely disassembled. I really considered buying a Toyota, but held off based on everything going on. I want to see how Toyota and their dealers are going to handle this.
I bought my first Toyota, 2024 Tundra TRD OR. I have been watching the recall, I am not included right now, and appreciate your input. Love the channel and advice you give. Thanks and keep up the great work.
This channel has been helpful for me, I’m not a Toyota fanatic but my wife’s little 2018 Corolla is a great car much better than the 2016 I had. Unfortunately for Toyota fanatics I think this time Toyota is in a lot of trouble and it’s gonna be different this time
Toyota will make it right. Just like the last huge recall for sticking throttles. It was BS, because the floor mat getting under the gas pedal that was causing the problem and not the throttle pedal. They replaced it anyway.
AMD is the ONLY youtuber that I will watch a 40 min video knowing I will not fast forward a second.
the jump cuts are funny- somone thought he got too off-point but we are ususally following right along anyway haha
@@dwgjr330 yes hehe!
Advanced Micro Devices?
Can’t argue with this. One of the few creators I forget that fast forward exists on.
finally, someone who makes sense of the whole problem. Too many videos of people who just want to hate, and make it sound like they know what they are talking about. All auto makers are not making good products right now.
I'm an engineer in a large engine plant, and he is correct: The people who build these engines are not "engine builders," just factory workers with little or no previous experience. They are given digital work instructions that shows them where to put a bolt, etc. If that bolt has the wrong thread pitch, they may still put it on anyway. Unfortunately that's the world we live in now, people in general don't take pride or passion in their work like they used to.
They are not paid enough to care unfortunately. If the whole modus operandi of a company is to cut costs to the bone why would a marginally paid worker go above and beyond the bare minimum to stay employed.
No. They are drones in the corporate culture.
It's all about money at the end of the day
Probably have robots doing the job
Because $40 an hour isn't enough?
I am an affected owner. I appreciate this video in its entirety. First time viwer and subscribed. Thank you again.
I own a 23 tundra limited. It’s great, 17k miles. I hope we don’t get a short block as the fix. I feel like that greatly deprecate the value. My understanding from by buddy who’s an engineer is that the ones not effected under the safety recall have the hybrid, as the hybrid can still move if it has a complete engine failure, hence not a highway safety concern. I don’t know if this is true, but it sounds possible. Anyways, hope we get crate motors or short blocks with 150k warranties so it’s made right by us. I traded in my 11 taco and got the tundra thinking it’s as always, bulletproof. We shall see
Literally this is the only source of truth anyone should listen to on the internet. Ignore all other RUclipsrs ASAP. My 2024 Platinum has been great so far. Will keep an ear out if it ever gets included into the recall.
Stop glazing.
😂😂😂
Flattery like this is embarrassing.
As an Aviation Electrical Engineer! Well thought out and factual presentation! From during Engineering Investigations in the government, you hit on some good key points in determining “Root Cause Analysis”!
This man enjoys talking , He is good at it ,He is a joy to listen to .
Much better than screaming Scotty
At 1.5x speed. Talks too slow for me normal
The biggest thing is he KNOWS WHAT he's talking about...not just rattling off a bunch of nonsense.
@@rossjohnson2478 yeah dude i gave up on Scotty long ago; he was exhausting!
Well, the first part is true
I just bought a 2008 Lexus 350rx, with 170K.
One Florida owner, 28 maintenance trips to the Lexus dealer. This thing is built like a tank. No electronic gizmos tracking everything I do. I'm so happy with this older model.
Oh BTW I paid $7K... I think it's worth much more
Meanwhile the 38 year old 22RE in my 1986 4Runner is chugging along smoothly.
One of the best years to own.
Efficient. Doesn't even need to be recycled It just keeps going. How green can you get.
I put 600k on that engine in a pick up.
Had to do a head job twice , rebuild the 5 speed trans once, and replace the transfer case once.
Biggest issue I had with that engine was starters. But since it was a 5 speed just parked on a hill all the time, lmao
@@Icoach4free
Starters or the starter solenoid contacts?
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Starters. Took me a few years to figure out the bell housing was cracked, so the starter didn’t line up correctly so it would eat up the starter in just a few months. I had bought the “Lifetime” warranty Autozone reman starter and after about the fifth one they wouldn’t give me anymore, lol
I've been waiting on this video because of you being a master tech for Toyota vehicles.
You are hands down the best in the industry. Great job explaining the possibilities of what is causing the engine failure.
I think that you are the wizard of Toyota’s and I love your all your videos but there are engine builders and really great mechanics out there that don’t owe Toyotas and some of these very experienced people are just giving their opinion about what is going on and it is not good to say anything about somebody that doesn’t own a Toyota should not speak their mind on what may or may not happen , I am just giving you my thoughts and opinions so don’t hurt the messenger. I will always think and know that you are the wizard of Toyotas
My experience with a Toyota recall is with a 2006 Corolla airbags. Toyota made it right, but it took two visits to the dealer and several years to accomplish. Toyota is still the best, and I hope everything works out for the best . . .
The difference is the corolla was not $80k.
Takata air bags affected millions of vehicles from different manufacturers
@@PeterHernandez-lg2ehonly affected cheap cars, because it was the cheapest air bag sold.
If that’s the Takata Airbag Recall then that affected nearly every car on the road. From cheap Corolla’s to LaFerrari were all affected by that.
I went to our local dealer Jeff Hunter Toyota, here in Waco TX. The service manager said he had quite a few Tundras returned with engine failure. He told me the oil feed passages were not completely machined. Many of the trucks had just a pin hole feeding the engine’s components. He said he would not even consider purchasing a new Tundra. The cost of the short block, covered by the warranty currently, is $21,000! That is a big hit! Crazy!!
That’s insane! I knew these turbo V6s would have problems, but I didn’t ever imagine they’d arise so soon.
So you predicted that they wouldn't be machined properly? @@aliciaserrano9698
We bought my wife a 2024 Tundra at the end of 2023. At 500 miles we had the dealer change the oil. Then we had them change it again at 4000. We got the extended warranty from Toyota. We'll see. Previously she had a 2021 Ford F150 2.7 Ecoboost. We didn't get extended warranty because we had never used the extended warranties we had bought in the past. As soon as the truck went off warranty all sorts of electrical gremlins appeared: It would say the anti-lock had failed, then it would say the traction control had failed, etc. Dealer couldn't isolate the problem. Basically said, "well we can replace this module for $9500, if that doesn't fix it there is another module we can replace for $8000, but we can't guarantee either of those will fix the problems." Ford said the same thing. For some reason (DEI?) the auto manufacturers are producing vehicles that are too complicated or are not sufficiently tested.
Maybe I'm being too judgemental but I don't think the dealer tried very hard to diagnose the issue. There are certainly mechanics out there who are determined and knowledgable enough to trace down an issue without using the parts cannon and wasting a ton of money.
It's not DEI dude lol is that what you think is responsible for all the ills of society? It's an incompetent dealership trying to rob you which is a tale as old as time.
@@GixxerRider1991 You have no data to back up your claim and nowhere did I say that DEI is responsible for all the ills of society. Note I wrote DEI ? It is one possible explanation as is yours. Notice however I also noted that Ford could not explain it either when the dealer pushed it up the line so it was not just the dealer. Try not to launch into hyperbole where you imagine people's motivations.
I'm glad to see that someone has finally got to the bottom of these 2.7 EcoBoost issues. Turns out it was D.E.I. Who knew!? /s🤣
I agree. Thanks for the good info.
Amd - the master of Toyota and Lexus has spoken. Thank you for giving us insight. You are amazing and the best mechanic on RUclips! I wish you did livestreams and Q/A sessions!
Don't forget Scotty, Uncle Tony and especially South Main Auto. All great Techs. GOD bless them for their help.
@@kingbrinston South main auto is a great tech but I wouldn't crap on the others you mentioned.
@@wysetech2000 Scotty called out Toyota from day 1 saying it was a mistake going to Turbo engines that will cause nothing but issues and ruin longevity. He was correct.
Always appreciate your insights. I am enjoying my 2020 GX460, that I recently bought based on your excellent overview. Blessings to you and your family.
Thanks for being the voice of reason. This, and Tinkerers Adventure are the only channels I put any faith in, the others are all clickbait and fluff who design content with clicks in mind, not actual facts and data.
That's one of the reason AMD's channel has grown so fast
This failure is a tolerance issue not debris. Cranks blueing the bearings in is a heat issue. Cranks or centerline bores are not in tolerance .
Or could it be that Toyota is asking too much of this small V6 engine in a large truck? Twin turbos, xtra big Ft lbs, perhaps creating these problems?
@@davidcox2197 I think you are correct. Too much stress on a smaller engine. Add in some manufacturing issues, and now you have a real problem.
My wife and I own a 2002 Limited 4x4 4runner with 236k miles and a 2006 Tacoma Prerunner with 283k miles. I will do maintenance and fix whatever needs to be fixed before I spend $80K+ on one of these new Yotas.
Does your prerunner have the 6 or 4 cyl engine? Debating which to buy?
@@marcpikas2859 1GR-FE, 4.0 V6. It's been an amazing and very reliable engine. 👍🏻
@@marcpikas2859 1GR-FE 4.0 V6. It's been a very reliable engine. 👍🏻
Thanks for the in-depth explanation of the issue. Always the best mechanic.
Hands down, the best video take on this subject. Thanks AMD.
A issue that needs to be looked at is the Main bearing were made without a tang and the Blocks were not machined for the tang to locate into and to keep them from spinning in the main bearing journals.
I bought a new 2023 Nissan Titan Pro4X last year. I love it!
Good choice. It is kinda sad everything happening with Toyota.
Toyota should send you a formal thank-you note and make TMMC a "Platinum Independent Service Facility" (or something to that effect, if there is such a thing). As a several-decades-long Toyota owner (currently Avalon and Camry), I appreciate your insight and, very importantly, your "stay calm" message - hearing that from you means more than it would from the manufacturer. I hope that Toyota executives will see this video and listen to your advice - honestly, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't at least take it into consideration.
I work at a small toyota dealer (under 600/700 cars a year new sold) in Canada. We have had 1 catastrophic failure, 1 major rod knock metal shaving bearings in the oil engine. And 1 just starting to knock with lots of shavings in the pan. In addition we have had 2 other tundras with turbo failures. The repair under warranty is basically every single piece of the engine. Heads valves valve cover short block oil cooler both turbos all the lines, cams, cam housings cam gears all the chains, tensioners, guides. Rocker arm and valve lash adjuster. Vaccum pump pn non hybrids. Timing cover. Basically every component. On most of the engine failures even the cam bearing surfaces and cams are scarred. Badly. Turbo issues relate to wastegate issues. Also had new 23 highland 2.4l turbo wastegate failure at 10k KM. Tundras were between 20 and 43k KM.
That wastegate failure is extremely uncommon on the 2.4T; I'm sure warranty tagged it for future reference just in case.
@LoneWolfSparty Nope, haven't called it back yet. Also had ECM failure same vehicle. Test process had us replace ecm first. If issue persisted. Then turbo assembly. They did call back some defect taillights from a tundra today though.
@@Brennen666CA that... is odd. I'd expect them to call for that at some point TBH. Because usually the stuff that comes out of Indiana is typically solid from what I've seen.
This guy is the King!!! Forget about nice screen, to the door panel and twinkies twinkies !!! He go exactly to the problem, causes and solutions. Thanks for all the knowledge and mecanic data!!!
Been waiting for you to address this issue for so many days now. I now have a great relief to see this
I will never give up my 2019 Tundra Limited 5.7L i-FORCE V8 engine............. E V E R
Engine and Trans are bullet proof with proper oil/fluid changes. 5,000 on the engine oil and 30,000 on the trans, diffs, and transfer cases. I would right this minute drive from the east coast to the west coast, do my own oil change, and drive back with no thought of breaking down.
I have a 2014 1794 with 178k on it.
Have had ZERO issues.
Glad to buy gas instead of being out of my truck for months with an engine issue.
Not to mention the $800 payment I don’t have!
Just do not buy a new car release right away, wait for early improvements and fixes.
But Toyota is supposed to test and evaluate everything way before it comes out to the public they're slipping they're cutting corners and they're going to lose customers not only with the quality going down but also with the Sky High pricing they have now
That’s what Scotty Kilmer always says. “Never buy Year One”
That applies to a lot of situations: same with not buying a new house during a boom between likely overpaying, builders cutting corners or merely hiring inexperienced people versus the seasoned people they keep around when business conditions are bad
Toyota’s reputation has always been ‘boring but reliable.’ You shouldn’t have to wait for “early improvements and fixes.”
@@jonathanbairdplease don’t be ignorant
This is the best video on RUclips, by far, on the V35A-FTS engine bearing failure issue. The most intriguing thing about it is AMD's hint that engines produced after April 2024 will probably have updated parts that have probably fixed the front main bearing durability issue.
This in turn means that shoppers who want to by a new Tundra may be able to get one now or in the next month or two with the new, extra durable version of the V6 engine PLUS get the incredible low APR financing and $8,000 below MSRP deals on the truck that corporate Toyota is offering to get the truck selling well again.
There's a stop sale on tundras, how are you going to get one
There is not a stop sale on trucks built and new as of the recall date. Any truck built after Feb of 2023 are good to sell, as is any used vehicle
Hoping thats the case for mine with a July 11th build date. 1.99% (maybe lower next month) and a couple grand off. I'm going to roll the dice
@@asdf_asdf948 Fake news!!!
Yeah that is why I really only cared about his video on the subject. Everyone honestly just read the recall notice, just blamed the turbos or said bring back the V8. AMD really made sense of things and even he doesn’t believe it’s just machining issues. Let’s hope Toyota makes things right though. It would be best to replace entire engines because imagine an inexperienced tech tearing this engine apart and rebuilding it in a fixed schedule.
I'm on my 13th Toyota and specifically purchased two of the last V8 Tundras, plus a 23 gx 460, to avoid the certain bumps that the new v6TT engines would inevitably have. I love Toyota but even they can't get an entirely new powertrain perfect in the first couple of years. I expect Toyota will make it right and then get it right, but for truck owners now this is limited comfort. Some of my first gen Tundras had frame issues but Toyota made it right. This new problem is more complicated of course.
How Toyota managed to ruin their rock solid reputation is amazing, quite an accomplishment.
I will say that their reputation has not completely been diminished. It can still be saved. For the most part, they have been very good at fixing the issues they addressed. There seems to be a exponential correlation between more technology/tighter regulations and less reliability all across the industry.
EPA!!! EMISSION, MPG ,Things needed to be changed. Beside how reliable was 2nd gen Tundra, how gas thirsty are those 2nd gen trucks. Think about it that Ford's Super Duty half ton axle truck has better MPG than light duty Tundra.
What about the 3.0 v6 in the T100 and Tacomas 1993-1995? How about the first year of the 5.7 in the Tundra in 07’? Toyota rectified both issues and they will come clean on this as well. Personally I would never buy a turbo, but to each their own. On my 8th Toyota pickup a 2015 Tundra 5.7, guzzles the fuel, but rock solid reliability.
Emission
I think it's the culture, they have a horrible population problem thus the old skilled workers are dying and are not being replaced by new citizens. Nobody wants to work 80 hrs a week anymore. Just my theory
What did we learn folks??? Always Let people with more money than you, test the first couple years of vehicle complete redesigns!!!!!!
AMD, I suspect this was not the sort of 'Unveiling My New Tundra ' video you had in mind. 😉😉 I wish good luck to those switching to Ford, GM or Fiat. 🤞🤞🤞
Toyota should just hire this guy as lead engineer / consultant.
AND give him a dealership!
Engineering is pure math serving human's.
Engineering is like making a movie, a mechanic is a good movie buff giving a review.
In layman's language.
He is not an engineer.
I own toyota tacoma.She is doing very well .Ahmed you are explaining really good about toyotas.Love your video watching.
Having an issue like this certainly isn't ideal, but I trust Toyota to find the cause and take care of their customers far more than most other brands.
They know the reason. but aren't saying,,,,,trust all you want.
@@doctordetroit4339 Toyota has a history of taking care of thier customers.
Toyota trusts their lawyers and accountants and will abide by the former's edict.
The fanboy is strong with this one.
Like they fixed the howling rear differentials in 3rd gen Tacomas? Oh wait Toyota denied it's an issue and says it's just normal "resonance".
This guy is a master, the best there is out there for all things Toyota. Keep up the great work, watch all your content from Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada
HELLO from a fellow Canadian from Ontario!
This is why I've always been a firm believer of not buying a new generation on its 1st or 2nd year run.
Yeah.
I remember the first -99 Silverados had problems, but not blown engines!
..................................... YOU LQQSE!...Yep...simply do your Proper research......1st year of a LEXUS is GREAT i.e. the NX 450h+ F Sport
@@donaldbanner2185 You’re looking at that from hindsight.
Very good advice. I’ve done that and learned that lesson well.
sorry to hear about your model, I've got a '19 hylander hybrid and keeping my fingers crossed for future kilometers 😊 Great videos and motor on 👍
Trust Ahmed with his honesty
Glad I have the old six in my 2007 Camry. Smooth as butter!
Same here. I have a 2008 Camry with the 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 engine. She turned sweet 16 last March with 138K miles.
2001 Camry 6 banger. Bought it brand new. My mechanic says it drives like a Lexus. So far, I've had to do nothing to the engine, tranny, and air conditioning. It's got a 1MZ-FE engine. It's my understanding opinions are mixed on that engine model. Something about it being susceptible to oil sludge. After 23 years mine doesn't burn any oil in-between oil changes (2x per year). It's got 220k miles on it.
The 2.5L four with the 8 speed transmission is a better Camry. 😎
1MZ-FE gang, 3k oil interval, level never drops between changes
I have a 2022, received it early February. I changed the oil around the first 2K miles myself. I just broke 20K miles, I'm going on next week to service about 3 recalls. I think one is the parking brake, transmission possible issue, fuel filler part. Oil pressure responds on demand needs. I love my truck, I hope it last me 500K miles. I've had about 3 past recoils that was serviced a while back, yes a few flaws like rattling center console buttons, rear window seals don't meet all the way (the internals have drains at the bottom, so no concern there). I'd hate to have a tech rip it apart for a turbo or engine bearing failure but I'd still keep it. I made a sweet deal at the dealer with my Denali that I had 6 years of constant issues, (transmission the biggest one) I ended getting the 125K warranty 8 years because the truck was a completely new design. I hope toyota resolves this issue as everything else they've done in the past, hope it isn't as bad as it looks in the internet. Things happen, this engine design has a ton of technology in it and designed and tested to 3 to 5 million miles before failure, so I'd think if it is good then it will last longer than the truck itself in theory. hope I don't eat my words, LOL!
My buddy's 22 sr5 engine blew at 22k. With in the first year. Oil pump failed. Is what they said. He sold it and bought a 23
First of all, people are really upset because the expectation of people that buy Toyota is that they are getting a quality truck that is reliable and lasts a long time. These trucks are very expensive and are a large part of the family budget. In some states a new vehicle can only be out of service so long and then it qualifies for a buy back or new vehicle replacement under lemon law. If I were in this situation I would be consulting a lawyer. I was considering buying a new 23 Tundra and trading my 2020 Tacoma. So happy I didn’t! My Tacoma has had zero issues in 89,000 miles! Good video! You’re presenting the facts, opposed to the highly speculative stuff that’s fueling panic of Tundra owners.
The complexity of modern engines to reach out of limit force is out of the charts.
I got a 24' 2500HD silverado with the 6.6 gasser. OLD school technology, iron block, reliable, strong, and I know will not fail.
Modern diesel and turbo engines have just excess power. Complexity plus aluminum, plastic, sensors is the perfect recipe for failure.
The most reliable machines are made from iron blocks, simple design, and decades of duty. The new Tacoma engine will suffer too, just like the Tundra. Is inevitable......
Transmissions and differentials are keeping them busy already
Best truck I’ve ever had, 5.7 Tundra. God bless the people who designed that glorious piece of modern awesomeness.
@hokie9910 thar engine may go up to half million miles with good maintenance never undertood why they took it out.
@@MIIIB That's why they took it out. And that they're basically being legislated out of existence.
@@MIIIB It's because of emissions and environmental regulations
This guy is an absolute car nut (hence the name, maybe)! The best and most accurate explanation that those of us, who didn't fall for the new engine, were waiting to hear. I couldn't watch the whole video, but just let it play to help the view number. Buying a 5th gen 4 Runner while they last. Many thanks!
Love your information Some people don’t understand Motets can fail It doesn’t matter who’s manufactured it. Toyota though has always come through. We hope that they keep there good reputation and nips it in the but. Thanks for your input and advice.
As a 2024 Tundra TRD Pro owner, I’ve been waiting for this video!!!
I feel sorry for you bud
@@MathiasJarlsonwhy is that? Likely their truck will be perfectly fine, and if the worst occurs they’ll likely get a new engine out of it free of charge.
@@ALMX5DP Sure, free of charge only if Toyota approves it and it will still take months to fix. Months of not being able to drive your brand new $70k truck.
And only to possibly have another engine issue later on haha
If there’s a know widespread issue, it’ll be recalled and taken care of. Yes there is a chance that it’ll take some time though there’s really only speculation right now as to what the fix is or will be and how quickly Toyota will remedy it.
One of my friends who was testing driving the new TX actually had the engine seize up, basically destroying the block. The sewell lexus dealership here in Dallas, TX area didn't know what happened, and this actually prevented them from buying one.
Wow, engine failure on a test drive is pretty embarrassing!
Reminds me of an old friend who sold Nissan's back in the 90's... the maxima had a Nissan logo that covered the trunk keyhole, when he closed the trunk the logo fell off and bounced around on the ground, the customers left before taking a test drive 😂
The four cylinder or the V6 TX?
Holy cow! Lets hope the 350 new workers Toyota hired for the Alabama engine assembly plant will be making new, durable versions of this engine for installation in 2022 to early 2024 vehicles.
@@0HOON0 It was the v6.
@@DJG37SI have the v4. Tks
I was unaware of the engine problem on these trucks, when I bought my 2024 Tundra in February.
Shortly after I found out about this, I had the oil changed at our shop at 534 miles. We added another Toyota filter and Mobil SAE 0W20 Full synthetic. We use this for all oil changes in our fleet of Tundra trucks.
We looked at the oil in a clear glass container and found NO metal particulates. The filter did not have debris in it that we could find.
We changed the oil at our shop at 1900 miles and again, NO metal particulates. The filter did not have debris in it that we could find.
What did find is - there was a heavy gasoline smell in the engine oil. I will point out that this vehicle, when it first starts up, the vehicle runs in Direct Injection.
Our question, is that with, prolonged oil changes, combined with the fact that the oil is getting washed down with gasoline, possibly caused by an injector dumping fuel into the cylinders, could this be the cause of the failure - bearing wash?
We are going to continue to change the oil frequently on the Tundra and observe the oil. I will post anything we find.
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The radius on the crank #1 main and the corresponding bearing fit needs to be analyzed as well.
Today June 26th, 2024 they announced they are replacing the engine, no repairs.
I'm keeping my 1st gen and 3rd gen Tacoma. If folks are going to want a v8, get a Nissan Titan. The Frontier is a great alternative and much cheaper -- with a v6. If I'm in the market today, that's what I get. Nissan have those engines for a long time now and they are solid. Dont confuse that with their crappy CVT.
The bummer is this is the last year for their v8 monster titan.
The V8 titans make these engines look simple…
There's a difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive". The Frontier is far less expensive while being equally well made.
With Nissan the engine is usually the least of your problems.
In the shop I worked in for several years. The boss bought a 2022 Titan V8. The engine lasted 17.000K before it started hammering. There was a production problem with the cylinder bores on several 1000 engines. There was NO crying from anyone and was replaced under warranty. The truck is a piece of junk anyway.
This is an excellent video. I'm a first time Toyota Tacoma owner also with a recall. I like the product, but the dealers are horrible. They are rude and greedy. Toyota let's this happen and does not address the issue. Do they act on the surveys? No not that I've seen.
I despise the "its under warranty anyway" angle. Problems so early in its life are not a good sign for longevity, and when I purchase a new vehicle for absurd amounts of money, I expect to drive it, consistently, not a loaner from the dealer. Especially a Toyota.
Bottom line - Toyota trucks became a success because of reliability and longevity. This is a drastic departure, especially from what seems to be carelessness in manufacturing. Along w the new truck transmission issues, this paints a dire picture of quality standards at Toyota. Avoid.
Bottom line get a ford.
My first rule "Never buy V1" always wait for V2 and maybe V3.
Buy one of each brand and tell us all which one is perfect.
@@BeefNEggs057yeah right 😂ford now recalling 550,000 fords for the 2014 transmissions failure for downshifting into 1st gear at any speed 😮!!! How long have they know about that failure? 🤔😏
You are talking about a 10 year old truck that's way out of warranty. A trans rebuild is $4k. A new tundra short block replacement is $32k. Most of these tundra's will be scrapped before 10 years.
Sir, you were up to something about replacing oil at 500 miles. Please do it sooner. Toyota said that the oil was contaminated by debris from the engine assembly. Please change the oil on your Thundra ASAP.
Scotty warned about this mess . Thanks for this one Car Care Nut . Buy 2021 and older !
If I am not mistaken, Scotty has claimed that every manufacturer will go bankrupt, fail and ever new design will have problems. And if you wait long enough he will always be correct as even a broken clock is right twice a day
@@clarkkent9080 doesn’t change the facts in my post Toyota blew it ! One can argue it’s because of EPA and it probably is but still Stands .
@@jackanderson2773 If you were old enough, you would remember that a simular thing happened in the early 1970s when the EPA mandated emissions limitations, only now the issue is with mandated emissions and fuel economy standards.
Back then the American manufacturers produced dogs with quality control issues and Japanese brands produced high quality reliable vehicles while still meeting emission standards. While all manufacturers are having difficulty today, Toyota seems to be the GM of the 2020s living on a past reputation that is no longer valid.
Their slogan should be "We aren't your father's Toyota anymore".
@@clarkkent9080 I vaguely remember that odd even people waiting for gas etc . All true .
@@jackanderson2773 There was odd/even but that was if you could even find a gas station with gas. Lines of 20+ cars per pump and before you got to the pump they ran out of gas. It was not the price of gas, you could not find gas at any price.
But it was the catalytic converter, EGR, air pump addons required by emission standards that resulted in a gas guzzling 350 V8 engines to put out no more than 145 Hp. And for various reasons American quality took a nose dive.
Vietnam war, anti-war protests, Watergate, national guards shooting unarmed college protesters, counter culture, race riots, and gas shortages, but at least there was sex, drugs, and rock and roll. And people think what is happening today is the end of America....really?
To give you an idea of how low the known number is, our local dealer works only one truck at a time because it’s a cab off repair and it takes 6 to 8 weeks for all the parts a work to be completed. The kicker is that they currently have six trucks waiting for the repairs and the number is growing faster than they can get the work done. All the trucks have less than 60k on them and three have less than 10k, one of which is less than 5k. Toyota’s reputation for quality is quickly falling apart. Add in all the transmission problems they are having with the Tacoma, it could be disastrous for Toyota.
Thank you for the video. I’ll be happy to see information on your new Tundra, congratulations btw. I’m driving my Tacoma for a bit longer so I’ll be following your progress.
I was an automotive tech for over 50 years and as soon as I said that I have seen it all, something worse came along. This problem is a little strange for sure. Why does the problem start with #1 Main bearing? Metal debris is not just a theory, but a fact. Even though the failed engines are from different assembly plants in different countries, the machining and build procedures are the same. The multi-million dollar machines are all computer controlled but the software that runs those machines are written by humans. First strike!
Being a Japanese company, at It's roots, not many of us know what kind of people they are. I can tell you that someone I know very well who is an older Japanese man has told me that every one of them take a bad customer experience very seriously and personally. They are very proud people and embarrassed when things go wrong. They all take a failure personally. In the end, I'm sure the cause of problem will be found and corrected with as little inconvenience as possible. Reputation is taken very seriously.
That said, My Dad purchased a 1955 Ford wagon. I was only 5 yo at the time but I still remember the day he picked it up from the dealer and all 7 of us piled in to go for a drive. The engine was very noisy and my dad said the noise was getting worse by the minute. We made it back home and the next day he returned it to the dealer. At only 355 miles they had to replace the short block because the factory forgot to drill an oil passage to oil the rocker arms and valves. Not a whole engine but a short block was replaced! That engine lasted for 14 years and 150.000 miles, which was high mileage in those days.
I am confident that Toyota will make up for their mistake and a better product will be the result.
I'm wondering if those proud days are over and if we are just getting played. The cheating with safety testing is over maaaaaany years and different brands. Seems like a cultural thing now.
This BS about the Japanese taking every failure personally is a total myth. You’re talking about the same company that was just caught lying about test results.
@@billb.2673 I guess my Japanese neighbor is a myth as well. There is ZERO proof of lying and could have been a mistake. I bet you hate everyone and everything as well, accept yourself.
@@Harrythehun I have no proof but I understand it was a printing error of the door stickers. If you're blabbing about emissions, you have the wrong company.
@@Harrythehun Is everyone PARANOID these days?
1990 (when they got 1 star out of 5 in crash rating) to 2024 was a great run where they become #1 worldwide.
Markups and unreliability are quickly destroying 35 years of accumulated greatness.
Interesting. I bought a used 2006 Lexus GS300 in 2012. 54k miles and in pristine condition. I only had it about two months when the check engine light came on. Took it to the dealership. They told me that the vehicle had excessive carbon build up and needed engine work. Lexus gave me a loaner and had my car at their shop for over a month. At one point, I stopped by the dealership and saw that the engine was out of the car and completely apart. When I got the car back it ran perfectly. Zero cost. I still own this car today and it's really nice. 130k miles and no issues. Not even an oil leak! I believe the trouble was with the wrong pistons, piston rods, and rings that had to be replaced. In my case the fix from Lexus was excellent. In this Tundra case over a 100,000+ vehicles may present some additional issues? Patience and perseverance is the name of the game.
I believe Toyota will make it good.
Same story with my 2007 IS350. It ran fine with 75k miles, they took it in for a week due to excessive carbon buildup, came back with new engine ran perfect for another 200k miles.
@@chrislovell7448 Yes, Lexus treated me very well indeed also. Maybe things have changed, but I will stick with Lexus. Actually, I hope to keep my current car for many more years.....