2024 Kia EV9 (inc. 0-100 & autonomy) review
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- We finally got the chance to get behind the wheel of Kia’s HUGE all-electric seven seat SUV. It’s the 2024 Kia EV9. Is it any good? Paul Maric finds out!
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior: 01:14
Interior: 03:52
Infotainment: 05:49
Safety Tech: 07:22
Practicality: 08:13
Charging: 13:48
On the Road: 14:39
Performance: 24:26
Verdict: 26:32
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Those bings and bongs are EU legislated. I am surprised that you got them as well in Australia. All new EU spec cars will come with these ‘features’. The iPedal thing is due to range rating. It was not rated in ipedal mode, so it will not default to it at startup. Much like ice cars start in eco mode with auto stop start on, for example.
Yes, ordered one in Finland back in August 2023. Ocean Blue Matt colour, GT-Line, 6 seater with relaxation mode (electric captains chairs). Standard side mirrors. Detachable towing hook. Everything that the importer was able to offer in Finland. We do not get a digital tiger grill (light pattern), and we do not get HDP2 (Highway Driving Pilot 2). The car should arrive by the end of November 2023 (Already in Finland).
I was choosing between EV9, Volvo EX90, Tesla Model X, and Mercedes EQS. Couldn't find a single reason to go with anything except KIA. The first time I saw the car was during a live presentation on 31.30.2023 just to receive proof I made the right choice. Never though would go with KIA, but couldn't deny how Brand advanced!
Would you mind saying what your final price was for this spec? I'm in Ireland and waiting to test drive as no dealers have drivable units yet.
@@craigandrew741 The Initial price was 88904 EUR. Received 7700 EUR discount and ordered panoramic roof, winter tires with rims, matt colour, and detachable towing hook. The final price (including delivery = 600 EUR) is 89254.76 EUR. Today, I saw the first test drive car with the local dealer here in Finland.
Great to see the breakdown in pricing, very helpful! Thank you@@bond_andrew
Thank you for taking time to show us this wonderful car. We are excited to try soon..
Hi Paul, great review. I always like how you look at the ergonomics, I think most car reviewers obsess with features and forget ergonomics. The video wing miss or is a disaster. Kia seltos has the same horrible beeps and they are enough to skip buying their cars.
I totally agree with your comments regarding some of the so called “safety features” on this vehicle & others in the Kia/Hyundai family. My wife and I recently test drove the new Hyundai Kona, which has the same set up as the EV9. Fantastic little SUV, until the beeping & dinging starts, for the same reasons you mentioned. So you aren’t the only person annoyed by the fact you can’t switch it off once & leave it off. That was one of the reasons we didn’t purchase the vehicle.
That is a great looking and very functional design.. amazing how well the Korean manufacturers have developed over 15 years
I was the first person at my dealership to drive the EV9 GT-Line and I noticed while driving there was condensation building behind the glass in those silly mirrors and it made the camera cloudy and relatively hard to see out of so I hope that won't be a common issue with this vehicle.
FINALLY an EV9 review of Paul
Love the review, I was waiting on it to see if this was the car for me, but quirky things drive me insane. All other reviews do not mention any beeps at all, and it annoys me to tears. Constantly turning things off EVERY time you get into a car is so annoying and its great to see that someone else feels my paid. Technology should be for the consumer to choose ONE time. "Yes I did actually bring my key to the car and push the start button." I don't need another distracting button to press to ask me if I am alert. I would rather go into the dealerships and sign a waiver to release them of all the stupid things that I may do in the future than press another annoying button for phantom safety.
Yes, it has been ordered and is already at my dealer - Launch Edition in Ocean Blue Metallic. Just waiting for the registration and the winter wheels. (Which are currently needed in Germany - fortunately, normal side mirrors are installed in the Launch Edition in Germany)
Hey, totally the same for me! 😊 Then I wish you also a soon delivery of the winter wheels and a lot of joy with the EV9!!
What will you do about the speed limit warning though? It’s almost a deal breaker for me, that and the eye tracker.
@@TheSteinbitt As there is no direct shortcut for switching off, I will probably at least put the menu on the shortcut button on the steering wheel, where I can then switch off the warning manually on the display.
It might be annoying on very short journeys, such as between kindergarten and school, but I usually have less of that.
@@MrJackie8oy yeah short drives will be pain, but mostly longer journeys here as well.
*I CAN GET 2 x BYD ATTO LONG RANGE FOR UNDER 121k YEH NAH U CAN KEEP IT KIA 😂😂😂😂😂*
Speaking of EV towing, would be cool to see a specific video on it. Specifically the hit on economy vs similar a combustion car
Hi Paul, you mentioned the performance of Radar cruise control (RCC), have you thought of testing some of the safety features just to see how well the really work? I think that word be interesting to see how the car behaves. So test things like RCTA, FCTA, RCC and parking sensors and stability control. With parking sensors it would be good to see how fast they respond to detecting changes in distance. I’d imagine some systems will perform faster than others. Also maybe test the collision avoidance systems. I think it’s one thing for manufacturers to offer all these safety features which consumers pay extra for, but how well do they work. Also with ABS have you thought of testing this on a wet skid plain? So some food for thought. I’d be very interested to read your thoughts. I love these techy things, but not if they are going to do your head in. I’m glad you pointed out those things that you found annoying, good on you.
I have the Hyundai Ioniq 5, the tech and infotainment system is basically identical, the warning systems like lane awareness is automatically on when you start as well. Just hold the autonomous drive button down for 2 seconds and it turns it off.
Hey Paul, should we sell our Prado 150 & get one of these? sitting on the fence for a while now not sure if we are going to do many outback n rural trips as before .. Just curious on its real-world touring capability. Btw, appreciate your reviews please keep it coming cheers mate
LOve the LED headlights, a new way from traditional solid headlight section, headlights can be placed anywhere up front now, its smart.
That is a great looking and very functional design.. amazing how well the Korean manufacturers have developed over 15 years
Love the format of your reviews. Excellent stuff.
When would you review kia sorento 2024? Do you have access to one yet? Given its just launched
Every review I have seen made by Australian reviewers or overseas reviewers has been very positive about this car. I've no doubt in viewing all these reviews that it is a well put together car. It has a luxury look and feel and lots of tech as you'd expect from a car in this price range. It's a 6- or 7-seater car that weighs in at 2.6tonnes and in the top spec costs $130K. My question is given the average size of an Australian household is 2.59 people (let's round it to 3) who needs a 6- or 7-seater and why? Kia have had a lot of success making cars that people can afford and will buy in big numbers. They appear to be leaving that market (which is their right, but we can expect and have already seen those Chinese makers of ICEV and EVs will move into that space) in the hope that those who have $130K to plonk down on a new SUV will go electric and will opt for a Kia over a Euro badged brand. That's a big gamble. This is a big vehicle in every respect but I'm not sure how many of the Land Cruiser brigade who go off roading will opt for this given the much more limited range (compared to a 100litre diesel tank) the risk of water inundation on the batteries as the vehicle takes on the dirt tracks and creeks is a concern. Again, given the weight of the vehicle the rated towing capacity would well and truly reduce the range. In my view at the moment the market for EVs is the second family car that can be used as the daily run around for the park and ride, the school run, the shopping and the gym and you'd never run out of charge. It could then be plugged in overnight at the power point and be ready for the sports run on Saturday. The family still has the ICE vehicle to do the road trip or weekend away. The ORA, MG Excite and even the BYD models might fill that role. A $130K vehicle is not in that category. Despite all that I've said (which is just my own opinion based on all the reviews I've seen) Kia will probably sell all the stock that has been allocated to Australia.
People may need one if they wish to tow any van bigger than about 1.6 tonnes. This would be regardless of passenger numbers.
BTW, the top-spec model is $120K, not 130. The RWD model is about $87K.
@@petesig93 It's $130K. I just checked yesterday on their site.
@@vongdong10 & @petesig93 - GT-Line is $121k before onroads and LCT etc. Depending on your state that can mean up to $140k drive away. Demo's can be had a bit cheaper. Lowest I saw was $128,888 drive away (GT-Line) a few weeks back. 2000km on the Odo.
Hopefully they fixed the wireless charging pad overheating in the EV6. It’s actually unusable on road trips in summer as the phone overheats constantly.
Funny thing is the UK version doesn’t come with those camera mirrors
Great review as always. Should have sent it up log mountain 2.0 :)
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no waaaay!! :))) you are the best!@@CarExpertAus
@@CarExpertAus Goodness, I could feel the weight of the vehicle just watching that. Thank you for testing it!
I just ordered a Sportage GT line Diesel which has the older software on it, I hope Im not missing out on much
I really do wish you could option to remove those video mirrors on the GT-Line. I think that alone would push me towards the spec below it if i were in the market for this.
The Kia EV9 does of course excite me greatly but I definitely don't need this much car. :P
Have you guys done an off road or soft road test of the EV9? I saw a short on TikTok of the log hill climb but can't seem to find anything else about it? Would be keen to see how capable it is or isnt!
Please what's up with the under of this vehicle? Is the battery compartment protected with Titanium underneath like Tesla EVs?
❤❤ some electrical cars are beautiful I wish all cars can be like these all and RWD and AWD
The warning settings for speed etc should be linked to driver profiles
Paul: "Have you been looking for a 7 seat EV but didn't want to spend well and truly over $100,000"..... Well here's this Kia for.... over $100,000.
Sorry Paul, had to say it 🤣
Maybe in a later update they can modify those software pain points to a couple of confirmations after fingerprint ID identifies the user profile
If your side cameras are going to be about as large as mirrors anyways, why not stick with mirrors?
They're definitely way smaller than the big mirrors that you get on these large SUVs, but I definitely don't like them. I wish you could get the GT Line without them
This new brand KN has come out with a lot of great design lately
Haha my son though the new logo said "Kin"
@carexpert Paul, mate can you please run this through your light offroad area with the body rigidity, log test etc. Just want to see how good the 4 wheel drive system is
Saw exactly this car at Sydney airport & looks impressive. Liked the minimalist approach but the positioning of USB points away from the centre console seems odd but when wireless mirroring that may not be an issue. Lack of a centre console in a car this size is bizarre. My biggest disappointment is the dash. It’s the same double screen setup you can get in a Kona at a third of the price & has always looked like a failed high school project to me. The towing capacity will be a plus to some.
How much range for a full charge?
Technology for mirrors is ridiculous, 😅
Hi Paul, driving wise and third row space, how does this compare to the current gen Kia Carnival?
I feel that our carnival has massive body roll but third row seats adults quite comfortably.
Thanks!
Third row definitely better in the Carnival. In terms of handling, this is quicker, but the Carnival feels a little more darty despite the body roll.
@@CarExpertAus appreciate the quick reply. I am finding it difficult to justify paying the equivalent of 2x top spec Carnivals for this. We currently have a Carnival Platinum and Model Y Performance.
Keep up the great work as always legends!
@@Rolls87Good combo!
Kia Carnival is a superior family car by a good margin. Just two things worried me when I almost bought one:
1. Engine choice, thirsty V6 or 2.2 diesel.
2. Dogs behind the third row. The huge and deep luggage space might be OK for a Great Dane or a small giraffe.
A 2648kg EV for $120,000 aud. Thats alot of weight (and money) for an SUV that generally have low profile tyres fitted to them these days.
How the hell is the an eco froendly car. My god the battery weights 536Kg. It weighs more than a landcruiser
I am still questioning a couple of things when it comes to any electric car. What will the resale be like, when you want to upgrade? And is our recharge system good enough yet? My family live a few hours away from me, so I love to have a car that will give me around 600km of range, yet almost no electric car currently on the market can do this at this point in time. Until both of those things can be cleared up, I’m happy to continue with an ICE car. Hopefully in the next 5-10 years, technology and progress can change my mind
If your family has an external power point, you could halve your theoretical range requirement. Or, stop for 10-15 minutes per 600km.
You might have a look at Ioniq6 which has around 614km max range
i am with you. I would be happy with hybrid petrol or diesel. currently pali diesel - happy...ness
Maybe don't buy a car you want to trade in and resell in a few years. Get one that will last a long time?
@24:14 It has its own built in Singaporean uncle taxi driver?
Imagine KIA boys rampaging through your suburb in EV9 ... .
Does this have a HUD? Do polaroid and non-polaroid sunglasses work?
It does have a HUD. We own the EV6 GT-line and it also has a HUD and have found that polarized sunglasses do not work well to see the HUD, had to buy non-polarized. Hope this helps!
Hi Carexpert! Again, thanks for doing the Autonomy reviews.
Question: is the semi-autonomous system of the EV9 HDA2? Or something even more advanced? Thanks!
We couldn’t demonstrate it on video but when it detects you are on a highway it will allow automatic lane changes. I found it actually worked pretty well compared to the 7 Series we just drove.
@CarExpertAus very nice! Thanks for the insight- and thanks always for the Autonomy portion of your reviews as always. Yes, KiA/Hyundai have really good ADAS systems! Is this system on the EV9 HDA2?
The wing mirrors are pretty ridiculous. As you pointed out, replacement cost would be astronomical. Minor repair could be bad as well. But the aerodynamic part is the biggest joke - how much weight do those cameras, the wiring, and the screens add? Weight is the biggest killer for range in all vehicles
A magnet for vandals, I'm looking for one now😅.
No. Aerodynamics are the biggest killer at highway speeds.
If this car was a DIESEL 😍😍😍😍😍
How good is Kia. Killing it - in virtually every class (like for like). The brand is virtually unrecognisable from even 20 years ago... (On the annoying speed beeps, have heard other reviewers make the same comment - haven't heard in EV6s, or other Kias, so believe it's new for EV9; suspect it's not long for this world, based on negative feedback.)
I have ordered one. I got the executive seats though. In my opinion there really isn’t many options of a car that’s 75k that has 6 seats 5k towing and massage and recliner on 4 seats. If you could give me one gas car below that price I’m interested.
Amazing car
What app do you use for performance times
Details here: www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/this-cheap-gps-device-lets-you-performance-test-your-car-like-a-pro
If 122k is too much, it might be prudent to review entry model. Nice to know battery chemistry performance details. Life?
I have a stinger and yes, it's annoying as fuck. Each time I get into the car I have a ritual of doing three things: turn auto stop-start off, turn lane assist off and turn the speed limiter off. There is no preset to turn it off permanently, I have to do it every time. This actually makes me not wanting to buy any other Kia ever.
i never heard anyone complain about safety features... those features are normally thousand extra $$$ back in the day that may only found in high end luxury cars. Now here we are complaining as standard features.
Great review! Thou Paul doesn't flinch a bit when he quotes the paint colour choice at 4 thousand dollars!!!!
Those front seats look like E.T. 👽 10:59
Viewing this all the way In South Africa..
Regarding the warnings and stuff on by default;
I own a Hyundai Tucson (current model Highlander) so many of the same systems and software as Kia, and the lane keep assist is always on by default whenever the car turns on. Beeps if I get within ~30cm of the white lines and has a slight adjustment to the steering.
I’ve been told this is because why safety feature that contributes to the ANCAP rating needs to be on by default whenever a car starts. So if my LKA or the EV9’s concentration warning and speed limit alerts help Kia get a higher rating for that car, then they will always be on whenever the car turns on.
Luckily for me I can turn my lane keep beep off by holding a steering wheel button for a few seconds, but that procedure in the EV9 would be a nightmare.
There are certain requirements for ANCAP however the latest Kia and Hyundai models come with constant speed limit beeping which is not a requirement. Other car manufacturers will simply flash a speed limit sign on the instrument cluster, beeping is not a requirement.
Can Bentz, Porche or BMW make better E-car?
What is different between premium brand and luxury brand now a day??
Don’t see the shark fin aerial as a pro, it’s about as advantageous as having an aerial on a phone. It’s outdated.
Fingerprint scanner for profiles is also silly. Basically it means that I would need to contort myself into the seat if my wife used the car, just so that I can press the button.
Missed the range of car on a full charge? Can you let us know?
Watch the video? 🤷🏻
@@oiboiii Google easier 🤷♂️
Would not buy it if I had turn it off chimes every single time. I mean they have a finger print scanner?? WTF.
I would have much preferred the second row captain seats which again Aussies don’t get
Can't one just memorize a profile with that little center button that has all the annoying settings off and the ipedal on?
Hi Car Expert. Question. Is there a chance that you could do a head to head of the base model MG4 and BYD Dolphin. I work for an organisation that is transitioning to EV's and I could really do with that comparison.
Love the Vids Paul.😀
What a boring ass comparison that is
Is it just me or did that review feel a little “slapped together” and not at the usual standard?
I have a Haval with these overly intrusive 'safety features', that need to be turned off with various combinations of button pushing.......VERY frustrating.
I hate these annoying beeps in my Kia Seltos. They are common in Kia and Hyundai. I can't even turn them off atleast you have option to turn them off in your car
I agree with you, its not just you ..
Ev don't work in the outback, panio black on the outside ha
The speed chimes is the most annoying thing ever and there is no way to permanently turn them off. I have an Ioniq 6 and it has the same setup as the KIA
Better than all new hyundai santa fe 2024
Buy the Kia Carnival looking at this EV
The beeping is my sticking point tbh
3:57, I am sure the keys are white!
"Just over 300kw of power"
283kw
700nm
Ummmmwut?
😂 sorry. Meant to say under!
I prefer byd seal u
Kia lost me there at around the 15:50 mark when you mentioned about those 2 "safety" features that beep at you and you have to turn off every time you start the car... That would stop me from considering to buy this car, as yourself have said.
First, and this looks like a good competitor in the range.
Not a fan of the interior. Needs some colour or textures to break up all the darkness.
How is this not well and truely over 100k!?
It’s $121000
15:38 I'm sure software update will fix this when people start complaining
Nice. I will buy ev5 for 20k.
How much bigger is this compared to Carnival?
what trim is this? what horse power?
So it’s really aimed at the average family isn’t it at that kind of costing 😳
So it’s huge, heavy, resource hungry (manufacturing) and will be heavy on tires and road infrastructure. I’m not anti ev…there’s a few I wouldn’t say no to, but ‘environmental’ they are not, practical as an ONLY car they are not.
I’m
Wondering how long until average Joe realises it’s a fashion accessory you’re been told you just can’t live without. Prices are crashing world wide for a reason.
I’m NOT saying petrol is the way, but we’re really becoming size queens and excess consumption aren’t we when it comes to cars in general
All that Technology... and all the ones you've got to turn off! LOL
Most powerful 600 hp Kia EV9 (AWD) GT model is coming 2024.
I think they look good, but pricing is ridiculous !!!!!!!! Im a carer, who can i ever get into a decent EV, and no, i dont want a MG !!
"Don't want to spend well over 100 grand"
Yet EV9 starts over 100 grand.
Because that makes sense.
Starts at 87k
It’s 97k,,, he
Quoted the wrong amount
@@nickfullerton1065 Nah, it doesn't. It's $97k + ORC for cheapest model.
Indeed and with ORC added in Queensland, brings the price over $108K!
CarWow got 4.94 secs to 60 mph, on a wet road….
Who would spend 120k on a Kia 😂
I still don't like the screens ... mostly set and forget but they just don't do anything for me.
Both disappointed and excited about the EV9, and all at the same time. I thought those little wing not-mirror screens looked like they'd been picked-up from Super Cheap Auto, and in this day and age, obscured instruments/displays are unforgivable flaws. The rearmost seats are a disgrace, and it's tiresome to constantly see that they will not admit anyone with legs to be comfortable. I'm 175cm short, and I've seen 14-year-olds tower above me; even my 5 year-old granddaughter wouldn't find that row comfortable. (Kudos though, Paul, for you showing that brief clip of you inside - no need to see your contortions to get there.) The excitement comes from how competent it seems to be in many other areas, and that it can outbrake many other cars and lumbering behemoth utes by a huge margin. Disappointment though, at the apparent range the EV9 has.
So since the maximum speed in Australia is 130km/h then it means any vehicle will do there?.,what i mean is whats the point of having a "faster" car/vehicle?.an average car/vehicle can do the maximum speed so having a faster one is just for bragging rights & novelty.😂😅
100kWh battery that is NMC.... *enter music - Oh no, oh no, oh no no no*
Just wondering - with the deletion of the side mirror to improve aero there’s still a protruding object there - and the car is using more battery powering said screen, plus all that charging, plus the electrically adjustable seats etc.
surely all that outweighs any scientific benefit of range.
You would be amazed how low power fixed function hardware for video and image processing could be vs having a constant strain on aerodynamic by just existing as a large mirror.
do these things go off road?
Yes. Grass and gravel.
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4 grand for Matt paint
Who do they think they
Are kidding
3rd row death trap
I don’t get why they need mirror camera when they have screen on the door. It’s same as looking at the proper mirror. Lazy way of looking at the mirror 😂
They really ripped off the Volvo xc90