Keep up the great Chanel. It's a great pleasure to have your dad a legend in motor sport. Thank you restoring and saving the race cars for future generations to see. Well done Jack for how you explained complex differences though the different car's over the last 30 years. Keep up the great work. Thanks Graeme Eyre
great video Jack showing the different cars development in suspension. the 93 car is still my favorite car of the 3 cars, you have done a amazing job on restoring it well done
This is great, can you please do some episodes on the holden 308 v8 and the development you guys were responsible. Would really help the 308 community. These engines are getting rare now
Thanks for an in depth insight of how these cars are built Jack. It's a credit to you for putting these videos together and showing us how incredibly well the cars were built and developed by Larry. I come from a speedway background and my dad and I built all of our own cars. It's very rewarding when all of the hours spent in the workshop building and developing a car ends up with results on race day. Keep up the awesome work Jack.
My cousin Darryl worked for Perkins Engineering as a machinist and I remember him telling me that one of his jobs was to machine the shims on the live axles to adjust the camber. Fro m what I recall he said every track had a different camber setting, so lots of shims! Great video!
Would there be an opportunity in the future to have a comparison between the design influence that Ron Tauranac had on the car, such as with the trailing arms mentioned here, compared to prior to Ron’s influence? Obviously it is easier said than done, but could be something interesting for a future video, especially if you start another restoration project with a post 2004 car. Can’t get enough of this series, and it’s amazing to see how much has changed between Project Blueprint and COTF, yet how much things also changed between the early V8 era and the Project Blueprint era!
Yeah it's a good idea, but we don't have any of the hardware here that Ron had an influence on, so that would make it challenging beyond what we've already done, but i'll see whats around.
These comparison episode are fascinating. Every episode is fascinating really, but seeing the difference in the 3 generations of touring cars is especially interesting. Looking forward to more VW news too. Thanks for bringing this information out for us to see.
Awesome video. I also like comparing the 93 car to my own 94 SS commy with 355" etc. Really shows the difference between road car and race car in every aspect.
Thanks for showing the original rear ends in such graphic detail. You need to consider having an open day one day to show off the restored race cars and other original parts.
Thanks Mike, we are hoping to have the cars at public events etc., current OH&S/workcover rules with workshops make it challenging to have people on your property!
If you keep doing presentations this good Larko will have to keep a lookout over his shoulder - you might take his job off him 🤣 Fantastic video Jack ! I think with the second versions they lost a little in lateral strength and the drivers had to be careful when racing shoulder to shoulder - it didn’t take much to break the watts linkage . Don’t know about you but I sort of miss the old days where the crew set the car up and it was up to the driver to do the best they could with what they have , nowadays they tell the driver via radio what to adjust and by how much .
Thanks so much for the wonderful videos, Jack. It's great to get under the skin of these cars because I've always loved the technical aspects. Many people complain about today's racing, but looking at it from a different perspective, I believe that we live in a golden age. The cars have become technologically advanced, but it's people like yourself who are preserving our heritage to a high standard that make it so special. Your approach is to seek perfection in your work, not just slap on some fresh paint and stickers, then hope for the best. Thank you for your hard work and dedication, and good luck to both yourself and Larry in the future.
@@perkinsengineering My pleasure, sir. I was wondering whether you've considered hunting for one (or more) of the old Group A cars to restore. It would be interesting to compare the differences and the evolution between that era and now.
Love these in depth videos Jack, thanks. I love seeing on the older cars how they engineer things to work around the chassis, it’s not the same seeing how the car of the future has everything on it purpose built for a reason. True skill and amazement how the older cars still retain the base of the road car and everything is integrated and modified to work on it.
I share your thoughts. Much prefer seeing how race teams worked around the limitations of a production car vs a chassis built from scratch as a race car. That's why I love the Group C and Group A era so much more. Gives me inspiration/ideas on how to improve my own car for track days!
Brilliant video Jack, great series you have going on. That current rear is crazy compared to the 90/2000's setup, no wonder costs are blowing out in super cars. Keep them coming Jack👍
Awesome Jack. So good to see the preservation of motor history. I love smart engineering but there is something about the simpler days that suck you in.
Awesome video Jack. Your videos are inspiring us to build a VP Commodore bathurst replica as well. The detail you show is invaluable. Any thoughts on doing an episode on the engine bay and interior, specifically the roll cage and seat mounting? Thanks again.
Awesome episode Jack. Loved the comparison. Maybe a laser pen or pointing stick may help when your referring to parts or mounting places under the car may help those not as technically minded. Hoping there's more comparisons to come. Have you thought about explaining what tools in the toolbox and how you would use them to get the car in the setup window. Keep up the good work. Hey does LP still have the Unimog. Remember seeing he was selling one of them. I assume it's sold and out touring
Not a bad idea with the laser, it's hard when you're the camera man and the presenter 😂 Yes once the cars are further along, we are planning on some videos surrounding what happens at the track with regards to tuning the cars etc.
As usual Jack another great video. It's great seeing the older cars and the then technology. It certainly makes me feel old at 58. I see Larry is plodding along nicely on the beetle. The beetle particularly interests me as I have a 63 myself. So keep the videos coming man . You and Larry stay safe and healthy. ✌🏻 Peace.
Great video! Interesting to see the move to the Mark Williams set up and lack of axle housing bracing in general on the solid rear axle vehicles. I bet the bolted joint from tubes to the aluminium centre section sore some large forces under acceleration and would be interesting to know how much they “flexed” but they obviously did the job.
Love your work Jack bloody awesome mate!!!, what you have just shown is exactly how the current cars have become so expensive yet the racing isn’t any better and the current cars can’t take the knocks the old cars did. Great work mate and maybe for the next show is the chassis?. Cheers
I thought the whole idea of producing The Car Of the Future...was to bring costs down and have a uniform platform for each variation or brand of vehicle..The complicated rear end seems as it would cost an arm and a leg and certainly more than previous set-ups.
Further Greg, why the heck didn't CAMS just let them use Nascar engines and gearboxes from the start? At the time you can get a freshened, used Nascar engine from top teams for $20K USD, and a gearbox for $5K (used). Proven, reliable, big HP and noise, I could never understand the stupidity of the bespoke local rules, just egos running wild.
That was a great video Jack. I really enjoy these comparisons of the 3 generations of cars. I look forward to seeing the next video. I really like the camber wedge system on the ends of the diff tube on the 93 and 03 cars. Is there any chance (if you have the time of course) of a quick video showing one on a bench with the cv joint so we can see how it all fits together and works?
Thanks Craig, yeah i'll see what I can do! All of the rear ends are now complete so I don't know if i'll have enough bits lying around but i'll see what i can muster up!
@@perkinsengineering thanks for your response, fair enough, if you can great, if not I understand. You also mentioned in another post about Engineering drawings, even that would be good.
That was great Jack cheers. So what was more cost effective the transaxle or the diff & gearbox setup on the earlier cars? The transaxle set up looks complicated & more expensive. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
I’d say the other cars with a diff and holinger gearbox were much more affordable, however the rules allowed space frame housings in the end and the money became ridiculous keeping up with those!
Well done Jack they say keeping cost down I don’t think so. Like the older set up a lot less Money to run still fast Cars million dollar sport start bending that stuff it would add up very quickly. Keep up the great information stuff We never get to see liked Fords for many years but I have a lot off respect for You and your Dad He was a big thorn in the Ford teams side cheers Mick.
Loving this comparison series 👍🏻 I’d also like to hear more about the differences between the Perkins cars and others of the same era, you mentioned the equal length trailing arms being an issue on the 03 car, that sort of stuff. What made the best cars fastest. Love it, Cheers
Thanks again Jack, I really enjoy these videos. Would love to hear about all the adjustments for the control arms, panhard, etc, one day, although I feel that is a bit of a black art ;)
thanks Jack, very interesting and well explained. A question if you don't mind. Are the shocks used in Supercars gas over oil like street shocks ? Only reason I ask is obviously you can dismantle, change internal valving, rebuild etc. I'd imagine a gas shock wouldn't be practical in this regard as you would need a means of regassing the shock once it has been re-assembled. If they aren't gas shocks, is oil cavitation in the shocks a problem ? Or is just superior oil used, the extra oil reservoir/capacity helps keep the oil stabilised ? thanks, please keep up all these great videos. I'm loving them Would also love to see some more from the Group A era Cheers Darren
Supercars now use a control shocker so I’m not 100% sure on those specs. The information would be out there though. The older shocks were gas and then they went to through shaft technology.
Jack, on the front side of the rear suspension on the right hand side of the COTF car. There's like a link going from a mount to the bottom wishbone. I'm sure it's not an ARB blade, it's a thin rod. Could you shed some light on what that is? timestamp where it's most visual is 10:11
Awesome work Jack I really enjoy these videos so thank you, I reckon you do a better job of explaining things than Larko did on race days. Fascinating to see the differences accross the years, will you guys ever do somthing like this in the VH - VL era?
Larko is pretty bloody good!! He actually text me having watched a few of our videos, he loves our channel! If we could get our hands on a VK or VL then yes for sure
Fasinating episode thank you Jack. What aspect of rear axle alignment is adjusted with the equal length control arm adjustment holes?. I understand roll centre changes by moving the panhard up or down.
Roll centre changes from the pan hard in 93 car, but from the watts linkage in the 2003 car and the arm positions in the current car with independent rear suspension. The squat is adjustable either pro squat or anti squat. Wheelbase and track width
No, our 1993 and 2003 cars use the H6S Holinger H-Pattern and the COTF uses the transaxle. To be fair, the gear selection set-up is similar in the transaxle and Holinger gear boxes for sequentials, they use a barrel mechanism to move the selector forks and change the gears. Might be some better tech stuff online?
Hey jack great video as always I was just wondering I haven’t seen your name on the co driver list this year unless I missed it so if you could get back to me if you have got a drive at Bathurst this year
A lot of people dream of owning/driving a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, Bugatti...... I dream of the LP 1993 bathurst winner with the LP cast GMH under the bonnet.
Yeah there's a fair few reasons beyond safety too, one of the biggest things was parity, trying to keep the performance the same, that had a big influence on the cars...
The 93 car has a proper wheel mounting system,, unlike those mecanically inept centre lock things. That were forced upon you. The panhard is simple, light and functional. The watts is a bit better and heavier. The Transaxle is a Sports Sedan!
Hmm how can we increase costs to get more money into our chosen suppliers pockets, and keep the riff raff out of V8 Supercars, anyone have any suggestions? Yes Boss, let me introduce the "Car Of The Future!" ...
Are you and Larry gonna race the VP or is it just for special events and nostalgia.... Larry you said yes to the trophy talk didn't you 🤣😂 we know you don't like to talk about it much but that doesn't mean we dont want to hear it ..... Please 🤣😂
So school me on those second two sway bars, the blades are the flexing component and on the fly adjustability is accomplished by rolling the plane of the blade?
Kind of, the blades make the sway bar work, by twisting the bar as such. The earlier versions adjust the leverage point, thus changing the rate of the bar. the second one uses blades in a similar fashion, picture a butter knife. When the knife is flat, it's easier to flex and bend. Turn the knife 90 degrees and its much harder to flex and bend. This creates the broad window of adjustment between soft and hard.
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The first You Tube channel that shows in depth the construction of touring cars. A greatly appreciated effort.
Keep up the great Chanel. It's a great pleasure to have your dad a legend in motor sport. Thank you restoring and saving the race cars for future generations to see. Well done Jack for how you explained complex differences though the different car's over the last 30 years. Keep up the great work. Thanks Graeme Eyre
Thanks Graeme! Cheers!
your eye for detail is amazing
Cheers Dave
Loving the comparisons across the years. Just brilliant Jack.
Cheers!
great video Jack showing the different cars development in suspension. the 93 car is still my favorite car of the 3 cars, you have done a amazing job on restoring it well done
Many thanks Craig!
Thank you Jack, very interesting indeed, no wonder they stick like glue.Jeff.
Cheers Jeff
This is great, can you please do some episodes on the holden 308 v8 and the development you guys were responsible. Would really help the 308 community. These engines are getting rare now
Yeah always lots of comments about the 308, our engine is together now so we don't have much to show, but we'll see what we can do!
@@perkinsengineering 308 or 304?
Very informative Jack,I never knew about the camber wedge on the older 90’s cars.
Thanks for the insight.
Thanks for an in depth insight of how these cars are built Jack. It's a credit to you for putting these videos together and showing us how incredibly well the cars were built and developed by Larry. I come from a speedway background and my dad and I built all of our own cars. It's very rewarding when all of the hours spent in the workshop building and developing a car ends up with results on race day.
Keep up the awesome work Jack.
Many thanks!!!
My cousin Darryl worked for Perkins Engineering as a machinist and I remember him telling me that one of his jobs was to machine the shims on the live axles to adjust the camber. Fro m what I recall he said every track had a different camber setting, so lots of shims!
Great video!
Just found this. Magnificent.
Would there be an opportunity in the future to have a comparison between the design influence that Ron Tauranac had on the car, such as with the trailing arms mentioned here, compared to prior to Ron’s influence? Obviously it is easier said than done, but could be something interesting for a future video, especially if you start another restoration project with a post 2004 car.
Can’t get enough of this series, and it’s amazing to see how much has changed between Project Blueprint and COTF, yet how much things also changed between the early V8 era and the Project Blueprint era!
Yeah it's a good idea, but we don't have any of the hardware here that Ron had an influence on, so that would make it challenging beyond what we've already done, but i'll see whats around.
@@perkinsengineering Yeah. I figured it would probably be hard. If it’s not possible, don’t worry.
These comparison episode are fascinating. Every episode is fascinating really, but seeing the difference in the 3 generations of touring cars is especially interesting. Looking forward to more VW news too. Thanks for bringing this information out for us to see.
Cheers Glen
Awesome video.
I also like comparing the 93 car to my own 94 SS commy with 355" etc. Really shows the difference between road car and race car in every aspect.
Cheers Deuce
I own a 92 VP SS and love doing the same Deuce! Would love some of this gear in mine! :)
Great work Jack, all very interesting stuff
Cheers John
Thanks Jack. That was very interesting.
Good stuff Bryan, cheers
Thanks Jack love this stuff
Cheers Kevin
It’s good to see the old girls up close 👍
Cheers
Great channel, keep them coming. I was at Bathurst 92, 94 and 97. It’s got to see the tech that went into the cars.
Cheers!
Thanks Jack, really interesting, love the 93 car!
Thanks for showing the original rear ends in such graphic detail. You need to consider having an open day one day to show off the restored race cars and other original parts.
Thanks Mike, we are hoping to have the cars at public events etc., current OH&S/workcover rules with workshops make it challenging to have people on your property!
Thank you Jack, greatly enjoy your videos, the Perkins family continues to give me so much enjoyment.
Cheers!
Thanks Jack. That was great to have a close up look at the changes.
Glad you enjoyed it
Absolutely awesome series guys, keep up the great work!
If you keep doing presentations this good Larko will have to keep a lookout over his shoulder - you might take his job off him 🤣
Fantastic video Jack ! I think with the second versions they lost a little in lateral strength and the drivers had to be careful when racing shoulder to shoulder - it didn’t take much to break the watts linkage .
Don’t know about you but I sort of miss the old days where the crew set the car up and it was up to the driver to do the best they could with what they have , nowadays they tell the driver via radio what to adjust and by how much .
Thanks Ian, Larko loves our channel and he's a gun at what he does!!!
Thanks so much for the wonderful videos, Jack. It's great to get under the skin of these cars because I've always loved the technical aspects. Many people complain about today's racing, but looking at it from a different perspective, I believe that we live in a golden age. The cars have become technologically advanced, but it's people like yourself who are preserving our heritage to a high standard that make it so special. Your approach is to seek perfection in your work, not just slap on some fresh paint and stickers, then hope for the best. Thank you for your hard work and dedication, and good luck to both yourself and Larry in the future.
Cheers Adam, I appreciate your kind words.
@@perkinsengineering My pleasure, sir. I was wondering whether you've considered hunting for one (or more) of the old Group A cars to restore. It would be interesting to compare the differences and the evolution between that era and now.
Thank you. Great video. Clear and concise, as always.
Great content, love to see how it all works
Glad to hear it!
Really enjoying the 3 generation comparisons of Supercars. Your such a natural talent in front of the camera, keep up the great work Jack!
Cheers Nathan
Love these in depth videos Jack, thanks. I love seeing on the older cars how they engineer things to work around the chassis, it’s not the same seeing how the car of the future has everything on it purpose built for a reason. True skill and amazement how the older cars still retain the base of the road car and everything is integrated and modified to work on it.
Glad you enjoyed it
I share your thoughts. Much prefer seeing how race teams worked around the limitations of a production car vs a chassis built from scratch as a race car. That's why I love the Group C and Group A era so much more. Gives me inspiration/ideas on how to improve my own car for track days!
Brilliant video Jack, great series you have going on. That current rear is crazy compared to the 90/2000's setup, no wonder costs are blowing out in super cars. Keep them coming Jack👍
Awesome Jack. So good to see the preservation of motor history. I love smart engineering but there is something about the simpler days that suck you in.
Cheers Shawn!
Excellent videos really interesting A vid on Larry’s special Holden 5 litre would be great
Yeah lots of questions about this, we'll see what we can do...
Awesome video Jack. Your videos are inspiring us to build a VP Commodore bathurst replica as well. The detail you show is invaluable. Any thoughts on doing an episode on the engine bay and interior, specifically the roll cage and seat mounting? Thanks again.
Great series Jack, really enjoying getting a look at all the past and current engineering.
Cheers!
…….. great talk through the engineering Jack 💪
Awesome episode Jack. Loved the comparison. Maybe a laser pen or pointing stick may help when your referring to parts or mounting places under the car may help those not as technically minded. Hoping there's more comparisons to come. Have you thought about explaining what tools in the toolbox and how you would use them to get the car in the setup window. Keep up the good work. Hey does LP still have the Unimog. Remember seeing he was selling one of them. I assume it's sold and out touring
Not a bad idea with the laser, it's hard when you're the camera man and the presenter 😂
Yes once the cars are further along, we are planning on some videos surrounding what happens at the track with regards to tuning the cars etc.
As usual Jack another great video.
It's great seeing the older cars and the then technology. It certainly makes me feel old at 58. I see Larry is plodding along nicely on the beetle. The beetle particularly interests me as I have a 63 myself. So keep the videos coming man .
You and Larry stay safe and healthy.
✌🏻 Peace.
Cheers Kevin, thank you
@@perkinsengineering ✌🏻
Awesome content Jack👍
Cheers Ryan
Great video! Interesting to see the move to the Mark Williams set up and lack of axle housing bracing in general on the solid rear axle vehicles. I bet the bolted joint from tubes to the aluminium centre section sore some large forces under acceleration and would be interesting to know how much they “flexed” but they obviously did the job.
Yeah to be honest, in 2008, in search of stiffness we went back to a complete F100 setup before a move to space frame.
Thanks Jack.. loving the engineering. All the best for Bathurst!!
Many thanks CK
Love your work Jack bloody awesome mate!!!, what you have just shown is exactly how the current cars have become so expensive yet the racing isn’t any better and the current cars can’t take the knocks the old cars did. Great work mate and maybe for the next show is the chassis?.
Cheers
Cheers Scooter! We're catching up with LP and his VW in the next episode!
YESS! actually had a look on your channel the other day to see if you had any videos about the rear suspension and here it is!! so good
Cheers!
Fantastic episode as usual, loving the explainations, thank you Jack and all involved...
Our pleasure!
Another awesome video thanks guys!!
Great video Jack. Are you able to do a comparison video of the front suspension?
Yes we will be doing that in a future episode!
Any possibility of a video showing a teardown of the VP spec engine?
We only just put it together!
@@perkinsengineering would be great to see the tricks you guys did to the heads and bottom end etc, compare to the standard Holden parts.
I thought the whole idea of producing The Car Of the Future...was to bring costs down and have a uniform platform for each variation or brand of vehicle..The complicated rear end seems as it would cost an arm and a leg and certainly more than previous set-ups.
You're not the only one with those thoughts!
Further Greg, why the heck didn't CAMS just let them use Nascar engines and gearboxes from the start? At the time you can get a freshened, used Nascar engine from top teams for $20K USD, and a gearbox for $5K (used). Proven, reliable, big HP and noise, I could never understand the stupidity of the bespoke local rules, just egos running wild.
@@perkinsengineering But why didn't the teams get together and tell them to stick it Jack?
Another brilliant episode, thanks Jack👍
Many thanks!
Loving the content guy’s, it’s awesome seeing the comparisons between the years and the evolution of these vehicles. Great job on the resto’s too 👍🏼
Cheers thanks Kevin
Great show jack im aware svg watches on and bought merch, Motorsport nutters love it mate, thank you
That was a great video Jack. I really enjoy these comparisons of the 3 generations of cars. I look forward to seeing the next video. I really like the camber wedge system on the ends of the diff tube on the 93 and 03 cars. Is there any chance (if you have the time of course) of a quick video showing one on a bench with the cv joint so we can see how it all fits together and works?
Thanks Craig, yeah i'll see what I can do! All of the rear ends are now complete so I don't know if i'll have enough bits lying around but i'll see what i can muster up!
@@perkinsengineering thanks for your response, fair enough, if you can great, if not I understand. You also mentioned in another post about Engineering drawings, even that would be good.
Another informative and unique upload.
Cheers
Thanx young fella.
That was great Jack cheers. So what was more cost effective the transaxle or the diff & gearbox setup on the earlier cars? The transaxle set up looks complicated & more expensive. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
I’d say the other cars with a diff and holinger gearbox were much more affordable, however the rules allowed space frame housings in the end and the money became ridiculous keeping up with those!
Well done Jack they say keeping cost down I don’t think so. Like the older set up a lot less Money to run still fast Cars million dollar sport start bending that stuff it would add up very quickly. Keep up the great information stuff We never get to see liked Fords for many years but I have a lot off respect for You and your Dad He was a big thorn in the Ford teams side cheers Mick.
Cheers Mick!
Thanks mate. Always wondered why Supercars went down that rout & just making things way more expensive than needed be.
Yeah i'm not convinced every effort was made to keep costs to a minimum...
@@perkinsengineering
Me neither mate. Hopefully lessons have been learned for Gen3.
Thanks jack love your work cheers for taking the time to make these videos hope Larry is doing well would be great to see what he’s been up to ?
Our next episode we are hoping to catch up with LP and see how his VW resto is going
Great Videos Jack. Your very knowledgeable. keep up the Great work. Cheers
Thanks!
Great video Jack, interesting looking at the progression over the years, keep the videos coming 🤙
Cheers!
Loving this comparison series 👍🏻
I’d also like to hear more about the differences between the Perkins cars and others of the same era, you mentioned the equal length trailing arms being an issue on the 03 car, that sort of stuff. What made the best cars fastest.
Love it, Cheers
Jack and Larry - Thank you for the content it’s a great insight into Perkins innovation. Kind Regards keep up the great work…….
Cheers David
Another great explanation Jack, we’ll done 👍🏻🇦🇺
Cheers David!
Thank you so much for the insight, it's really interesting and greatly appreciated...
Glad you enjoyed it!
As always a good video Jack, brakes on 2nd and 3rd car looked bigger?
Thanks Barry, yeah they get bigger over the 3 cars, once all of the brakes are finished we will do an episode specifically on brakes.
Love the old commodore stuff.
Vote ^ for some more cat dozer or stationery engine stuff too.
Yes we will get back to older stuff soon
Thanks again Jack, I really enjoy these videos. Would love to hear about all the adjustments for the control arms, panhard, etc, one day, although I feel that is a bit of a black art ;)
Yeah we will do a bit on that and track tuning stuff in another episode.
@@perkinsengineering legend 😊
thanks Jack, very interesting and well explained.
A question if you don't mind.
Are the shocks used in Supercars gas over oil like street shocks ?
Only reason I ask is obviously you can dismantle, change internal valving, rebuild etc.
I'd imagine a gas shock wouldn't be practical in this regard as you would need a means of regassing the shock once it has been re-assembled.
If they aren't gas shocks, is oil cavitation in the shocks a problem ? Or is just superior oil used, the extra oil reservoir/capacity helps keep the oil stabilised ?
thanks, please keep up all these great videos. I'm loving them
Would also love to see some more from the Group A era
Cheers
Darren
Supercars now use a control shocker so I’m not 100% sure on those specs. The information would be out there though. The older shocks were gas and then they went to through shaft technology.
Incredible how complex the newer suspension set up is is any weight saved as it appears a lot more gear is required to support it
Minimum car weight is the same or within 50kgs of what it was in 1993.....
Jack, on the front side of the rear suspension on the right hand side of the COTF car. There's like a link going from a mount to the bottom wishbone. I'm sure it's not an ARB blade, it's a thin rod. Could you shed some light on what that is? timestamp where it's most visual is 10:11
It’s the drop link from the end of the sway bar blade to the lower arm.
Awesome work Jack I really enjoy these videos so thank you, I reckon you do a better job of explaining things than Larko did on race days. Fascinating to see the differences accross the years, will you guys ever do somthing like this in the VH - VL era?
Larko is pretty bloody good!! He actually text me having watched a few of our videos, he loves our channel! If we could get our hands on a VK or VL then yes for sure
@@perkinsengineering Try and get Larko on and have some fun too. Like yourself mate, he's passionate as hell.
@@kevintaylor7660 that would be great
Wow thats full on
@@druslocallawncare109 cheers
Great video as always Jack! I'd love to hear Larry's opinion on the Gen 3 cars and how he might do things differently perhaps in a future video.
I remember at Bathurst in 2000 a guy had an LX hatchback painted in the same livery as the 93 car not sure if you have seen it Jack.
Yes I remember! I've seen some photos of it maybe on our PE Facebook page
Loving the comparisons, is there just a cv joint type setup in that cambered solid axle rear?
Yes there is
Fasinating episode thank you Jack. What aspect of rear axle alignment is adjusted with the equal length control arm adjustment holes?. I understand roll centre changes by moving the panhard up or down.
Roll centre changes from the pan hard in 93 car, but from the watts linkage in the 2003 car and the arm positions in the current car with independent rear suspension. The squat is adjustable either pro squat or anti squat. Wheelbase and track width
Love great Aussie Legends, tellin it how it is...
Cheers!
Did mechanics adjust the anti roll bars much during races on the old set ups before drivers could do it in car?
Jack, do you have a sequential gearbox to explain how they shift. Thanks for the video.
No, our 1993 and 2003 cars use the H6S Holinger H-Pattern and the COTF uses the transaxle. To be fair, the gear selection set-up is similar in the transaxle and Holinger gear boxes for sequentials, they use a barrel mechanism to move the selector forks and change the gears. Might be some better tech stuff online?
Hey Jack, can you get ya Dad to talk about his time in Europe and driving Formular 1.
That would be a great story
There's almost a book in that!
@@perkinsengineering I look forward to reading it.
I would read anything about LP compared to say something other certain driver's
Jack - love these videos. Out of curiosity, these race cars are in private ownership these days?
Yes that's correct
@@perkinsengineering I thought you guys owned PE017?
@@79Skater we do!
Hey jack great video as always I was just wondering I haven’t seen your name on the co driver list this year unless I missed it so if you could get back to me if you have got a drive at Bathurst this year
Yeah I'm with Erebus and Will Brown in car #9, signed with them at the start of the year!
@@perkinsengineering oh that’s good to see you still on the grid for some reason I didn’t see your name on the list
A lot of people dream of owning/driving a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, Bugatti...... I dream of the LP 1993 bathurst winner with the LP cast GMH under the bonnet.
Cool
Are the '93 rear arm adjustments used to control ride height? Or something else?
No, rear geometry, pro squat, anti squat etc.
@@perkinsengineering thanks mate, so mechanical grip as such?
below the bonnet pulling through haha?
Correct!
I know safety always came first- but it really was a pity that the racecars became so very far removed from what you could buy at the dealers
Yeah there's a fair few reasons beyond safety too, one of the biggest things was parity, trying to keep the performance the same, that had a big influence on the cars...
The 93 car has a proper wheel mounting system,, unlike those mecanically inept centre lock things. That were forced upon you.
The panhard is simple, light and functional. The watts is a bit better and heavier.
The Transaxle is a Sports Sedan!
Hard to disagree with you!
U would would be knowhere without FORD 9 ?
good job Jack..chip off the old block!
so much for them being supposably cheaper...that looks infinitely more expensive on the new car
Hmm how can we increase costs to get more money into our chosen suppliers pockets, and keep the riff raff out of V8 Supercars, anyone have any suggestions?
Yes Boss, let me introduce the "Car Of The Future!" ...
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Are you and Larry gonna race the VP or is it just for special events and nostalgia.... Larry you said yes to the trophy talk didn't you 🤣😂 we know you don't like to talk about it much but that doesn't mean we dont want to hear it ..... Please 🤣😂
I don't think we will race them, happy to drive them, but after the amount of work into restoring them, imagine someone crashing into the door!!!!
Just a slightly more complicated set up than my old formula vee but only slightly 😂
Only a little bit 😂
miekx
#vun.fyi
So school me on those second two sway bars, the blades are the flexing component and on the fly adjustability is accomplished by rolling the plane of the blade?
Kind of, the blades make the sway bar work, by twisting the bar as such. The earlier versions adjust the leverage point, thus changing the rate of the bar. the second one uses blades in a similar fashion, picture a butter knife. When the knife is flat, it's easier to flex and bend. Turn the knife 90 degrees and its much harder to flex and bend. This creates the broad window of adjustment between soft and hard.