The Leica M10-D Review. Beautiful Basic Inspiration.
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2018
- My FULL thoughts at: www.stevehuffphoto.com
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I used the new Voigtlander 50 f1.2 lens for all of the images in my written review and this video review.
The Leica M10-D is the latest version of the M10 and it goes back to the most extreme of basics without an LCD and with a film cocking lever! Check out my thoughts...and...DID I BUY ONE?
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Wait... so they put an advance lever but didn't make it do anything? I got pretty intrigued when I first saw it had that and thought that someone had finally taken the idea from the Epson RD-1 where the lever actually resets the shutter. Seems like a wasted opportunity.
Came here to say this, they should have had it actually cock the shutter like the RD-1. Shame.
Same thought. Really wish someone would make a modern digital camera with a fully manual and mechanical shutter mechanism. Would be such a huge win in my book.
I like the idea too but that would make shooting much slower. Part of the reason they added a lot more RAM in the M-P, was to allow the camera to handle a much faster pace of pressing the shutter. It would be cool if they allowed YOU to choose whether you want the lever to be able to advance the shutter or not. Maybe via the phone app.
Yes it is the most effective thumb grip ever put on a Leica M. Way better than any thumbs up design which I did not ever care for. This is actually genius and should be on all M cameras.
I wish that lever was functional to cock the shutter, like the Epson R-D1
I wish the 'advance lever' was functional like on the good ol' Epson R-D1. I would've saved even more battery power than just eliminating the LCD screen.
Okay, the exposure comp and Bluetooth dial I can understand, but why move the power switch back there, too? How do you conserve battery while being able to quickly turn on the camera for a shot? Or are you meant to leave it on, in sleep mode until you need it?
Can I use the app to change color profiles or switch between jpeg or RAW? Or which format does it use?
People are shitting on this but I think it's a great idea, whether it's done by Leica or a cheaper brand. Frankly I'm surprised it took this long, unless there are other screenless / menuless digital cameras out that I'm unaware of. Maybe I'm overestimating the audience but I think a lot of people would enjoy a relatively straightforward shooting experience that can be found in 35mm p&s or rangefinders, but with the convenience of digital files rather than film development.
As a Leicaphile, I would love to own one of these. But Leica kills me. Less is more....expen$ive. They are the only camera company that charges you to delete features.
"They are the only camera company that charges you to delete features.
" so true
They make far less of the M10 D than the usual models, they are more expensive by necessity. Different body, different controls, addition of the thumb lever all mean extra tooling and work to produce.
Just fell in love with this camera , so simple but genius
In March of 2004 Epson put out the first digital rangefinder and it had a manually wound (film lever advance like) shutter. I saw pictures of this M10-D and heard rumors about its arrival, how disappointing! I thought Leica had finally learned from Epson's 2004 camera. What a shame its just to look at. IG - @scottbrennanphoto
I feel the same. I own an R-D1 and it simply is the best Camera out there (for me) and i finally thought it would finally see a sucessor... im so disapointed.
Doesn't it differ from the M10P with the viewfinder magnification and the ISO range?
The let down on this camera is the lever. Should make it an actual functioning lever.
I'm a bit disapointed I thought it would be a real advance lever... I'd rather stay with my film leica.
Lol
same
Do you get 36 or 24 shots?
It isn’t easy to see the point on these cameras. But essentially automation in modern cameras is great for producing pictures, working as photographer to record weddings, sports and such. However when talking about artistic classic photography, the kind Henri Cartier-Bresson made famous, in which you take your time to think about the philosophy behind a certain space, the feelings a certain subject would generate and the evident effort you as a photographer have to go through to obtain those pictures is quite an experience. The fact that is much harder to nail focus with a Leica M, you start caring less about sharpness and more about composition, you also start gaining respect for unique moments that happen in a blink of an eye, you suddenly don’t care about showing off the incredible quality of your photos in terms of color density and dynamic range, but the quality of the emotions you make people feel when seeing your pictures. Finally, the Leica M10-D also helps to separate the process of taking a picture from the process of revealing said picture, for that matter the photographs are seemingly more exciting to edit and to develop, the element of surprise and enjoying when editing is superb, and it comes from the fact that it was built by the prelude of taking the picture without knowing exactly how the picture came out. Leica M10-D provides an opportunity for photographers to craft an image instead of just taking it by pressing the shutter, to anticipate the moment of developing and editing your images and to enjoy each process truly separately. The worst thing about the comments against Leica M system comes from people who have never owned one, as an owner my self, it’s very counterintuitive.
If you want to be hardcore old school and "craft" the image as you say, shoot with a Leica III. Now that's what I call getting back to basics!
Wanted to have the cocking lever to have the same function as the Epson RD-1 that would make the battery last for a much longer time. Hopefully they will do this on the M16-D. LoL. I dont like the sound of M11 so I would wait till the M16-D comes out lol.
I prefer the M3 which has no LCD screen and a real advance lever. What am I missing?
What f stop did you use for your night time close up shots. The hair details are very sharp.
Looks like a beautiful camera. I'm wondering if this would be good for street photography when the on and off dial is at an odd location. For the size, it would see perfect for street.
I don't get it, didn't they removed all those components to reduce the price?
As with the previous M-D no. Less is more in two ways. IN the enjoyment and using the camera and in price. The lack of features IS the main feature, and quite a few out there love this concept. It's also unique, so you can not get a camera like this from answer else. IT's also low volume production as not many will buy, so price is higher also due to that.
They ve already done limited edition of m-d as i remember of 800 copies and sold them for 18k each. 18 fucking K.
I really love the concept but let's be honest here. Fujifilm could do the same and for a right price! Why they don't do it? They definitely should as is an amazing way to get the prices down. If I remember right, would not be the first time they make a real rangefinder. But that means a fixed lens, that would save them from the obligation of making an entire new series of rangefinder compatible lenses. And if is still a fixed lens, they can throw there a full frame X-Trans sensor (for an amazing film look, 'til the organic sensor arrives).
Holy crap, you got one!!! I've wanted the M-D but have stopped myself, thinking "should I get the 10, instead?". Now there's a 10-D!? I'm so damn stoked about this...
Skyler King sounds like your wallet is going to get stoked too ;)
Soooooooo how do I get the 7 grand for just starting out ? Is there a lay away ? I have several children many ...their eyes ..
If this cost the same (not more than) as the M10, this would make more sense. I don’t agree with Leica charging more for less.
Think Porsche sports car e g 911R or T
Volume in production affects prices
The film advance lever seems too gimmicky since it does nothing. Form over function I guess?
They should've made that lever to format the SD card. j/k.
Would you sell the X1d, to get this one?
wish you had compared the new one to the previous model for those of us that already own the original MD and looking if it is good idea to upgrade
What is the small black button to the right of the shutter release for?
Abigail Sockeye if you press it, it shows the battery and the SD card space in the viewfinder!
I don’t get liking the quiet shutter. Fuji has that option but coming from Canon MKII I do enjoy a shutter sound.
Great review! You also are back to the basics!
No link to the band?
Great insight, which could prove costly! I own a M8 but have mainly been shooting with an A9 which is great, but I do want that, “I did that feeling” again, rather than relying on the camera’s smarts to get the photo.
I been giving the M10-D a lot of thought.
Why not set your A9 to manual mode, single shot advance, and manual focusing? Then turn off your LCD.
I'm in love with Leica ... They're completely crazy !!! And I love it!!! LOL
i love this concept! i wish there was an aps-c ricoh gr without lcd but with an evf (or even an ovf)
Great review, thanks. I’m not that old, but modern cameras have to much functions in my experience. Great to see that Leica keeps simplicity and fills this need. Great images also, keep up the good work.
Just like old 35mm, I am intrigued and maybe 1 day may go down that route. At the moment it's 5d mark iii and a 7d mkII. Raw, that's what photographers did yrs ago before digital and Photoshop bring it on
Beautiful photos of the band 👍🏼
just shoot film??
If I had the means I'd be all over this. I don't chimp when shooting digital SLR, and I still shoot a film Leica. It looks perfect.
i would say that the images by voilgtlander 50mm lens are just amazing.
that release lever is a good feature, aka, we don't have to buy a "thumbs-up" accessory anymore!!, saves having to go to third parties for things, going for a new trend @ Leica???
Looks like a great little camera. Just like the film days.
Song at 9:35?
Great shoot
great shots
Works with an iPad?
Can you copy raw files to the app?
Ok looks like you can. That is great.
As always Leica will divide opinion but being a Leica user myself I love the concept of this. I have the M262, M246, and an M6 and always wanted an M-D262. This new M10-D is right up my street. Great review. ps. Any more X1D videos coming up? I need to get out and about and shoot with mine more but need inspiration!
I was ready to get one if the camera could be manually cocked. I am not rich so this would have been a huge purchase. Leica, way to really drop the ball.
The thumb wrist sticking in my ribs is a big gripe so this solution does work well.
im suprised they did not copy the Epson R-D1
When are they gonna release Monochrom withou LCD!? ;b
That has seemed like a logical conclusion to me for ages too.
Would be great....but I suspect that, even for Leica, it’s too much of a niche within a nice within a niche.
@@Pembers357 ...yeah, but that could be said about the monochrome full stop....or the M10-D.
....what I also wonder is if we are going to see that faux winder thumb rest on future Leica’s....and, if they might actually get it to do more that just thumb rest duty....for example, it could be used to turn the camera on/off.
Would it be able to attach the Visoflex
yes. Visoflex even works on M9
Yes indeed but no preview, no info. Just used to frame the shot.
This could be a foretaste of the future with cameras linked to an iPhone app, Zeiss already have a similar concept camera, but, I have to ask, who is it for? Is it for Leica fanboys who are so rich that they can have a camera like this for $8K without blinking an eye at shelling out $8000?. I have a camera which is similar in that I cannot chimp images, gives great results, which I got for less than £100, OK, it's film and it's called the Olympus Mju ii with fixed (high quality) 35mm F2.8 lens. I love it and I use it a lot for street photography. I am either on the wrong site here, but I do like Steve's love for the quality of the things he reviews. I could never justify buying this, I can't even afford some of the ancilliary things he recommends, like luxury camera bags and straps, but I've just got to love this guy for his enthusiasm and I love reading his crazy reviews. If you know you want this camera, go buy it, if it makes you happy, life is too short for regrets and accepting mediocrity.
That green flashing Wi-Fi light would drive me crazy. Pess & Next.
They nailed the concept, but how this costs the same as an M10P is beyond me
Consider yourself lucky that it didn't cost more
I know right. We peasants don't deserve Leica cameras
@@5nanometers I actually have an M9-P lol but I can be objective and not obviously biased to the point of near delusion.
The price combined with the faux advance lever makes this a fail.
a5m agreed
“Back to basics.” Wish the price was basically lower.
I’ve got a better idea for the analogue fans, buy a used M6 for $1.5k and a canonscan and you can do most of what this M-D can do for a way cheaper price, plus you are shooting film. The unique advantage here is not the camera, it’s the FOTOs app.
What does the thumb dial do?
Good question, when I used it it did nothing.
It looks like a nice idea. I presume having no screen means the battery lasts longer...
Not if you're using the Bluetooth connection, lol
Hahaha nice one!
It’s the resistance cocking action that’s nice about film advance levers. If it doesn’t do that it’s even more niche.
(neesh) btw. I’m pretty sure it’s a french word or something.
Niche is a french work. It's a dog's house originally (a little house in a bigger one).
I mean "a french word" of course. Hi, from Paris.
@@marc6652 Cheers for the clarification. Hi, from Latin America.
I'm from London, but I lived up by Jaurés over on line two for a good few years. I am intending to come back after I'm done here. Paris was more a home to me than anywhere.
cool looking convoluted camera
through my eyes Convoluted? Meaning complicated? Or where you being sarcastic?
I don't really see the point of removing the screen but whatever as you said it's a niche product. What bothers me the most is that the lever is just a "thumb rest" I was hoping the lever would manually reset the shutter...I mean why not go all the way with the niche thing and get a manual reset shutter as well for that film advance feel after every shot.
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Why is is the same price as the LCD model?
I don't know ...
4000 Euro is a god Price for this camera i my opinion ...
Actually is a lot more expensive 😂 Some people are going to buy it tho....
Imagine u took pictures of someone on the street and the person demand u to delete the images n u were like sorry I can't lol
I love it.
They should put a format to film release to add a bit of extreme in shooting 🤣
style and substance.
Do you really need the rakish music all the time
Worst and best thing digital ever did was give instant feedback on an LCD. Shooting film lets me just be in the moment not judging myself for that last short or fighting the urge not to chimp. This could bring me back over to the dark side.
This is great!
Can you comment on the difference in experience between the 262 and m10, with respect to the Wi-Fi? It’s clear what value Wi-Fi brings, but how much does it take away, is it too easy to use, or just inconvenient enough that you can spend a day without using it once?
No Silent shutter?
If only they had the Nikon DSLR silent shutter mode😂😂
It's interesting that the SL has an electronic shutter option, but the M10 doesn't.
I think this camera is a dream and your feedback are always nice, thank you
Leica should really make a Leicavit for the M10-D for a more analog-looking, maybe .....
Supre cooool!!
Leica has been seriously killing lately!
love this camera! it is amazing!
thanks for sharing this with us!
loved watching this!
I initially thought it is ridiculous BUT the more I think about it, the more it makes sense!
Amazing! So little for so much.
Nice camera but better buy a Leica MP (a real analogue camera)
I’d prefer it in silver chrome.
Lovely camera but my on/off/wi-fi dial is beginning to jam!
Richard Simmons had a rock band?
You've gone too far with swallow dof on your videos imho. seeing parts of your face going in and out of focus all the time isn't comfortable. we get spoiled by the amazing technology we have on our hands sometimes
thats what happens when you care more about the gear and specs.
You sold your original Leica M-D to me and I still love and use it everyday. I shoot paid work and wildlife photography with my Nikon D5 but for everything else, you can’t beat the user experience of a Leica and a M-D especially x
Here is an idea! Take that phone screen and put it on the back of the camera.
I just watched another tech reviewer literally do that today
Not sure about that Pixii camera, dosn't really float my boat. Do you think in a few years Jack White will open a museum for DSLR's hahaha
hmmmm... I'm wondering how much more fun it would be to not be able to see any of the pictures using the camera... I may try this out (as close as I can get it on my XT-2)... I think... if that functionality of this camera is a big part of what makes it more fun - we can just do it on most other cameras without having to pay $8,000 - particularly on cameras like an X-Pro2, X100f, and other rangefinger(ish) cameras.
My Wild Dreams Leica digital cameras are expensive but no other cameras are,rangefinders.
It's better if it works as Save as raw, rather than just some additional thumb grip
This camera only shoots RAW. You can change it in the app but the M-D is meant to shoot only raw.
That's Nietzsche and that's niche (without a "t"). A niche is a kennel : a very small (dog)house in a bigger one.
Can it shoot 10 frames a second?
XuQi Feng do it need to shoot 10 frames a second?
This isn't for wildlife or sports lol
Fortunately not.
i would definitely buy it if it was at least $700-600 or less... but no its leica its over 9000
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about the price of the M10D?
@@WildHorseProductions ehh i dont understand u man 😉
lmao @ "help me! my credit card is gonna blow up"!!!
Wow 👍🏼
I would just get the M10P
OMAGAD, 8000$ for a camera with only one card slot !!!!! I WANT IT SO HAAARD !!
..i remember the time photographing with film, we always wanted a second filmroll to put into the camera....😂😂
I use the 10D many years.........its a Canon....
The camera never does it. I don't understand what that even means.
haha, true
L is for Lve, L is for Leica = Love Leica. also L is for Loopey. its loopey.
Great review. but for 8 grand not for me.
$8000 for this?
Wow, Leica is high, real high.
Now if they sold this bare bones thing for $1000 then it might be worth it just for the fun of using this art camera like a film camera.
Hell I might buy it for $2000 just for the notalgia, but $8000? Jesus no.
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