should be this one www.neobits.com/3m_7100043405_3m_power_wire_connector_driver_wcd_p_p15301782.html?atc=gbp&gclid=CjwKCAiAxeX_BRASEiwAc1Qdkf9-501TLpTYBpl-IvhV1P7g2LoBBWC35GbuwZyVIX3KsOEGE6wCARoCtqUQAvD_BwE
The box is on the open side of the stud. If you want to screw to the stud you would use a bracket box. That’s what they should have done on the other side often the stud. It’s less labor and material to use a bracket no. Than a screw gun bracket.
For those of us not in the trade but who want to learn anyway, it would be great if you gave a little more info about the box, like what it is for, why you added the extra wires, why there are two sets of 12/2 coming in there, what a mud ring is, etc. Thanks!
Mud rings range from 1/4 to at least 2" to bring to bring edge within a 1/4" of finished sheetrock title etc walls. 2 cables or more are in most boxes. It just dasy chain wires from first box that is feed from the panel to last bix on the circuit.
Nice vid. Hospital that I retired from would not allow use of flimsy MC connectors that you used. All connectors had to have a locknut & a screw to secure cable. Best pratice is to do it like you did. Over my 50 years as a sparky saw too many problems when the receptacles are used for the splice rather then wire nutting. If the first wire on outbound side of first receptacle comes loose all downstream receptacles will be effected.
I started as an apprentice electrician in 1984 and am still working to this day. Do yourself a favor kid, wear gloves !!!! if you have to, cut the last 1/2" off the ends off of the fingers it will make getting used to the gloves a lot easier. Your welcome..........
Thank you for the knowledge ive never done electrical but i recently did power drops for a halloween store at three locations and im sure there’s some mistakes but im pretty proud of myself lol
@@DailyElectrician Some years ago I was working at Chicago O'Hare where they were building a couple of new runways. There was a very large electrical contractor crew working there with many electricians on the job. I figured as big as Chicago was there would be more than one local, so I asked one of the electricians how many locals in Chicago? He told me one. That surprised me. So, I said how many electricians in this local. He said 12,000.
I have a question, How come you don't use self tappers and mount it into the stud with the 2 small holes you have in the side??? Also, you're doing a switch, correct? Do you have to have a pigtail? Or does the ground coming from your mc cable doing that for you?
Good video! Question - Can you make an additional outlet off a pre existing commercial outlet ( like the one wired in the video here) saying you wanted to mount a tv and put an outlet behind the tv? If so how would that be done?
2020 NEC 220.16 (B). Talks about extending circuits in a non-dwelling unit. That sends you you to 220.14.(I). Which talks about loading per recepticle on a circuit. This is all in the calculation section, so be careful. 180 volt-ampreres per yoke may put you above the calculated circuit limit.
Your the shit man! Please man I'm a new guy getting into the trade and there is not enough commercial videos for me to watch. Please upload more commercial videos.
Like to have a dollar for every time that I removed 4 to 6 wires on a pressure connector ( no such thing as a wire nut in NEC. Yep that & $2 will get you a cheap coffee ) that at least 1 wire fell out because lazy sparky did not pre twist or twist the pressure extra tight. Best pratice is to strip wires at least 7/8" then pre twist and trim ends then twist connector with linesmen pliers and apply several wraps of a quality UL approved tape. Never purchase or use cheap inferior tape, test or safety equipment from lack of quality control scum bag cheating lying virus spreading china.
Really good job and good explanation for all apprentice electrician, my question is wouldn’t it be more cheaper to use a 4x4 metal box with bracket to screw into the metal stud instead of a bracket
Ideal years ago made a tool for twisting wire nuts. The Ideal tan colored wire nuts can be twisted with a nut driver or a drill with clutch turned way down.
while it's a box big enough for 2 receptacles, i think he's using the technical term to mean there will be one receptacle with two outlets on one circuit
You screw the wire nuts on backwards. Righty tighty lefty loosey. When you explain things it’s clear that you don’t fully understand. Like when you explain 12/2 wire. 12/2 means 12 awg, 2 ungrounded conductors they don’t have to be black and white.
Love how you just troll the haters commenting on your vid. Imagine being so self conscious that you have to comment negative on an electrical box makeup. Ha. Good work
Nice IBEW sticker! My fiancé worked as a Union electrician for local 26!He went through their apprenticeship program for four years then went to work for HMS electric in their early seventies! Stay safe everyone! And God bless America!
You shouldn’t just pick a measurement and stick with it btw. You need 6 inches of wire out of the box. I am not sure if other comments have posted this but it is important. Not 4 or 3 fingers. Not trying to troll but just to teach.
2020 NEC (no change marks indicated) in section 300.14 says, "....where the opening of an outlet, junction, or switchpoint is less than 200 mm 8 in any dimension each conductor shall be long enough to extend at least to 75 mm 3 in outside the opening.". Is that the section of the code you are talking about? That would make his finger measurement longer than the code requirement, correct?
Hey Keith, “300.14 length of free conductors at outlets, junctions, and switch points. At least 150 mm (6 in.) of free conductor, measured from the point in the box where it emerges from its raceway or cable sheath, shall be left at each outlet, junction, and switch point for splices or the connection of luminaries or devices. Where the opening to an outlet, junction or switch point is less than 200 mm (8 in.) in any direction, each conductor shall be long enough to extend at least 75 mm (3 in.) outside the opening.” My point simply was to teach this the proper method vs someone who might think they should just stick with any measurement, 3 or 4 fingers could very well be too short btw….
6" is minimum from where they enter the box, 8" is better, easier to work with when the walls are all buttoned up if you have to get into it. I just put my lineman pliers against the back of the box and cut them an inch shorter than my pliers, which are around 9" long.
Absolutely. I have worked in I don’t know how many boxes that were so short that the receptacles couldn’t be pulled out of the box. I was simply stating the minimum code. It’s common to say 6 inches out of the box, but I referenced the actual code language so people can learn the right way at a minimum. I was always taught linemen plier length too.
@@DailyElectrician U.K electrician. Have a look on my channel. I’d love to learn more about how you do things there tho. More about how you wire the circuits, the size of the cable And breakers for whichever circuit etc.
@@DailyElectrician Location of box shows you could have used bracket box 2 mc cables could have use 11/2 deep box. Cables should have snapped in leaving center open. I hand twist all my make up using linesman. I make a living making higher profits, reducing cost, with high integrity of work preformed.
@@DailyElectrician in some electronics losing a neutral is a big deal and will fry the equipment because it still has the hot connected but no longer a neutral. I've only seen this happen once but it can happen.
Hey where did you get that attachment for your impact for wire nuts??
should be this one
www.neobits.com/3m_7100043405_3m_power_wire_connector_driver_wcd_p_p15301782.html?atc=gbp&gclid=CjwKCAiAxeX_BRASEiwAc1Qdkf9-501TLpTYBpl-IvhV1P7g2LoBBWC35GbuwZyVIX3KsOEGE6wCARoCtqUQAvD_BwE
DailyElectrician thanks!
no problem!
I am old old school Always pretwist and tape. wire nuts should face up in case of flooding from up stairs.
Yea this guys sounds green
Doin too much
Wire nuts always go up. If they loosen up over the years, they won’t fall off
Great tip, thank you!
The pigtail trick for grounds is really neat!
The box is on the open side of the stud. If you want to screw to the stud you would use a bracket box. That’s what they should have done on the other side often the stud. It’s less labor and material to use a bracket no. Than a screw gun bracket.
For those of us not in the trade but who want to learn anyway, it would be great if you gave a little more info about the box, like what it is for, why you added the extra wires, why there are two sets of 12/2 coming in there, what a mud ring is, etc. Thanks!
You got it.
Mud rings range from 1/4 to at least 2" to bring to bring edge within a 1/4" of finished sheetrock title etc walls. 2 cables or more are in most boxes. It just dasy chain wires from first box that is feed from the panel to last bix on the circuit.
Nice vid. Hospital that I retired from would not allow use of flimsy MC connectors that you used. All connectors had to have a locknut & a screw to secure cable. Best pratice is to do it like you did. Over my 50 years as a sparky saw too many problems when the receptacles are used for the splice rather then wire nutting. If the first wire on outbound side of first receptacle comes loose all downstream receptacles will be effected.
Thanks! Yeah I agree, too many potential problems if you don't wirenut but I just do what the boss wants lol :)
Ok that wire nut twister thing was impressive.
:)
I get a lot from your videos Thank you .
Thanks for the comment, I'm really glad to hear that 🙏🏼
I started as an apprentice electrician in 1984 and am still working to this day. Do yourself a favor kid, wear gloves !!!! if you have to, cut the last 1/2" off the ends off of the fingers it will make getting used to the gloves a lot easier. Your welcome..........
im required to wear gloves now 🙂
Thank you for the knowledge ive never done electrical but i recently did power drops for a halloween store at three locations and im sure there’s some mistakes but im pretty proud of myself lol
thanks for the video man, im about to stert first year apprentice i need these insights in the trade!!
glad it was insightful 🙏🏼
Looks good! Local 48 here. I don’t pre twist myself, but nothin wrong with it!
Thanks! Hoping to join Local 48 shortly! :)
@@DailyElectrician Some years ago I was working at Chicago O'Hare where they were building a couple of new runways. There was a very large electrical contractor crew working there with many electricians on the job. I figured as big as Chicago was there would be more than one local, so I asked one of the electricians how many locals in Chicago? He told me one. That surprised me. So, I said how many electricians in this local. He said 12,000.
geez, wonder how many are in mine lol
I have a question, How come you don't use self tappers and mount it into the stud with the 2 small holes you have in the side???
Also, you're doing a switch, correct? Do you have to have a pigtail? Or does the ground coming from your mc cable doing that for you?
Nice presentation - God Bless
Good video! Question - Can you make an additional outlet off a pre existing commercial outlet ( like the one wired in the video here) saying you wanted to mount a tv and put an outlet behind the tv? If so how would that be done?
yes
just add the new wire for the plug box in the existing box. match the colors together.
2020 NEC 220.16 (B). Talks about extending circuits in a non-dwelling unit. That sends you you to 220.14.(I). Which talks about loading per recepticle on a circuit. This is all in the calculation section, so be careful. 180 volt-ampreres per yoke may put you above the calculated circuit limit.
Great video! :)
Thank you!!!
Your the shit man! Please man I'm a new guy getting into the trade and there is not enough commercial videos for me to watch. Please upload more commercial videos.
i'll see what i can do! Thanks!
Your workmanship looked OK. I'm old school. I pre-twist my wires before installing wire nuts even though my wire nuts are listed no-twist.
Thanks. We're all different :)
Like to have a dollar for every time that I removed 4 to 6 wires on a pressure connector ( no such thing as a wire nut in NEC. Yep that & $2 will get you a cheap coffee ) that at least 1 wire fell out because lazy sparky did not pre twist or twist the pressure extra tight. Best pratice is to strip wires at least 7/8" then pre twist and trim ends then twist connector with linesmen pliers and apply several wraps of a quality UL approved tape. Never purchase or use cheap inferior tape, test or safety equipment from lack of quality control scum bag cheating lying virus spreading china.
😬
@@garbo8962 Yup. "Wire nut" is a brand name.
@@garbo8962 It's annoying when people use electrical tape over wire nuts.
I have to wire up a 2 gang receptacle in a plastic box with 2 white - 2 black -2 green . Any videos on how to ?
same basic thing. get some 3-port or 4-port wagos (depends if the box continues to feed other boxes), and make a pigtail
Very nice work
Thank you!
does the wire nut bit actually tie the wires together or does it just tighten things up?
both
Hello may I ask where you got that big handled screwdriver
Really good job and good explanation for all apprentice electrician, my question is wouldn’t it be more cheaper to use a 4x4 metal box with bracket to screw into the metal stud instead of a bracket
thanks, Just depends on the situation. if the box needs to be on the back side of the stud we usually use spreader bars and a non bracket box.
Damn you calling out the pretwisters?
bet
Ideal years ago made a tool for twisting wire nuts. The Ideal tan colored wire nuts can be twisted with a nut driver or a drill with clutch turned way down.
nice! haven't heard that before (nut driver) tip, thanks! and yeah i've seen some people have the ideal tool :)
What’s the name & brand of that wire nut twister?
I don't know if there is a name and brand, i bought it from a local shop in Washington off a shelf. it only has a barcode sticker on it.
I wish to see what they were for too
If it it’s a duplex, why not leave prepped 2 pigtails instead of 1?
a duplex is 1 pigtail
while it's a box big enough for 2 receptacles, i think he's using the technical term to mean there will be one receptacle with two outlets on one circuit
He will use a single mud ring for 1 receptacle, a 2 gang mud ring would be used if there are 2 devices.
You screw the wire nuts on backwards. Righty tighty lefty loosey. When you explain things it’s clear that you don’t fully understand. Like when you explain 12/2 wire. 12/2 means 12 awg, 2 ungrounded conductors they don’t have to be black and white.
appreciate the incorrect assumptions 🤘🏻
So depending of the drywall they will use how will you makethe receptacle flush to the drywall is there some adoptor or sometimes
yeah a mudring, you match the mud ring depth size to the sheet rock before it is installed
those wire nut twisters are awesome
for sure!! 🙌🏼
Then the dumb sheetrock guy sticks his 3" rotobit and cuts all the wires.
😂😂😂 facts
Ok
:)
Love how you just troll the haters commenting on your vid. Imagine being so self conscious that you have to comment negative on an electrical box makeup. Ha. Good work
seriously though haha, thanks for pick me up ❤️🙏🏼
Instead of installing a bracket than the box,
i always pretwist
nice
Nice IBEW sticker! My fiancé worked as a Union electrician for local 26!He went through their apprenticeship program for four years then went to work for HMS electric in their early seventies! Stay safe everyone! And God bless America!
nice!
You shouldn’t just pick a measurement and stick with it btw. You need 6 inches of wire out of the box. I am not sure if other comments have posted this but it is important. Not 4 or 3 fingers. Not trying to troll but just to teach.
yeah 3-4 fingers is more than 6 inches
2020 NEC (no change marks indicated) in section 300.14 says, "....where the opening of an outlet, junction, or switchpoint is less than 200 mm 8 in any dimension each conductor shall be long enough to extend at least to 75 mm 3 in outside the opening.". Is that the section of the code you are talking about? That would make his finger measurement longer than the code requirement, correct?
Hey Keith, “300.14 length of free conductors at outlets, junctions, and switch points. At least 150 mm (6 in.) of free conductor, measured from the point in the box where it emerges from its raceway or cable sheath, shall be left at each outlet, junction, and switch point for splices or the connection of luminaries or devices. Where the opening to an outlet, junction or switch point is less than 200 mm (8 in.) in any direction, each conductor shall be long enough to extend at least 75 mm (3 in.) outside the opening.” My point simply was to teach this the proper method vs someone who might think they should just stick with any measurement, 3 or 4 fingers could very well be too short btw….
6" is minimum from where they enter the box, 8" is better, easier to work with when the walls are all buttoned up if you have to get into it. I just put my lineman pliers against the back of the box and cut them an inch shorter than my pliers, which are around 9" long.
Absolutely. I have worked in I don’t know how many boxes that were so short that the receptacles couldn’t be pulled out of the box. I was simply stating the minimum code. It’s common to say 6 inches out of the box, but I referenced the actual code language so people can learn the right way at a minimum. I was always taught linemen plier length too.
This is crazy compared to what I’m used to here
oh?
@@DailyElectrician U.K electrician. Have a look on my channel.
I’d love to learn more about how you do things there tho. More about how you wire the circuits, the size of the cable And breakers for whichever circuit etc.
cool
might be able to talk sometime :)
Bad practice to use the wire nut tool
it's a mindset
Noice.
Lazy and you could had folded one fold wire nut to top of box looks like shit in my book having 30 years experience
Hard to read in my experience. Don't forget grammar when insulting, thanks :)
@@DailyElectrician Location of box shows you could have used bracket box 2 mc cables could have use 11/2 deep box. Cables should have snapped in leaving center open. I hand twist all my make up using linesman. I make a living making higher profits, reducing cost, with high integrity of work preformed.
wonderful 👌🏼
Don’t forget the good attitude bruh they sell it at Home Depot you should pick some up
Make sure the ground screw is green?? More NEC BS!!
ok
i don't believe they do have to be green, just that they are a machine screw
Not pretwisting the neutrals is just stupid ...your gonna fry some electronics someday doing that shit...
And not pretwisting hots is okay?
@@DailyElectrician in some electronics losing a neutral is a big deal and will fry the equipment because it still has the hot connected but no longer a neutral. I've only seen this happen once but it can happen.
yeah i understand, but just because i do something different yet still correct isn't a reason to argue and start calling names lol
How can you call yourself an electrician
what's the problem sir?