As an electrician I always use pigtails. Not for the reason if one fails they all fail as that is false info since the flow goes thru the copper tabs on the side of the outlet but, for the reason of not having the entire load of the circuit going thru each outlet. Also, while it’s most common to put the ground on the bottom , outlets we’re designed to have the ground at the top. That way if you drop something metal it will hit the ground tab and move away from the hot. The NEC leaves it as a preference as far as residential wiring goes but in my area commercial and hospitals are required to have the ground up.
I want to ask you a question ? I have been told that the ground should be up. I see other you tubes do it both ways. I want to make sure when I go this its right. Thanks for your Help.
Some people believe it's safer to install the outlets with the ground up. If something is dropped onto a partially plugged in device it won't easily arc, at least that is the theory. How you mount the outlets (ground up or down) depends on where you live. Some places favor one way or the other. Where I live I never see outlets mounted with the ground up and that's why I mounted mine with the ground down. The bottom line is you can mount them in what ever orientation you are comfortable with.
Great video. I just smashed that subscribe button. I spent all day researching and trying to figure out how to do this and right when I was ready to call it quits I came across your video. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge 👍🏽
Very good video you saved me time,money, headache,work you explained it so well I had trouble looking for a video like this other videos don’t explain to well and nice work recording it! Thanks again God bless you!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Very great method! Thanks for sharing. Each pair of screws on the outlet has continuity, so the method doesn’t improve the performance of an outlet adjacent to a failed outlet.
I'm a diy'er and I like the way you did that. It looks professional to me and that's the way I have done it. However, I would use individual THHN wires instead of romex in emt and wrap the screw connections with electrical tape especially in metal boxes to prevent shorting. I also think it's not correct as many people say that using all the screws means that current must go through the receptacle, assuming it's not a split receptacle. Look at the plate where the screws are mounted. Sometimes this is falsely called connecting in series. Receptacles are always in parallel. I think the distinction is more accurately described as daisy chaining vs pigtailing.
@@jonosterman2878 Josh, 334.15 (NM cable) lists emt as " approved protection" along with other conduits for protection from physical damage, normally ahj in garages. Also, (not by my book) but the section in the back of the code that helps you calculate conduit fill....Ch 9. Table 4. Maybe....about page 70-695 in the 2020 code....note 2 in table points to fill requirements not designed to apply to protection piping, so as long as it fits? Just fyi.
Older Raco, Mulberry, and Steel City covers are not drilled at the top and bottom, only at the middle. I always drill them out with a 9/64" drill bit for 6-32 screws and flange nuts like the newer ones. It takes a bit of work but prevents the receptacles from possibly breaking when inserting a plug because they were not properly supported. I also use the broken out plaster ears from the receptacles as a source for free #6 flat washers. On the last one of these that I wired up I looped the black and white wires around the screws on the first receptacle and terminated them on the second one. I am not happy with Raco as the company has moved current production to China.
Hey mate rewatching your video, awesome presentation and the example I will be using when I do my outlets. Question: Was the emt pipe gap to the wall significant enough that you would recommend using and offset coupling or not?
The gap is about a 1/2" or so. My runs were fairly short so I decided to go with no offset but if I had longer runs, I think I would prefer to use an offset with hangers to hold the conduit against the wall. It's really going to be up to you as to what you can tolerate.
I think the hard part is getting the right length and nice twist on all the wires inside the box but you didn't show that part....only the finished product. Good job though!
I only have one camera. If I knock it off the bench while I'm twisting and cussing it will probably get broken. Then I won't have a camera to film my YT videos with. That's why I didn't show that part. 😂
Say a commercial or hospital outlet. What would the failure mechanism in one outlet be that would stop the second outlet from working if the second is wired under the same pressure plate as the first? Note the high grade outlets have explicit postions for two wires under the pressure plate of any single screw. Seems to me that joining under a single pressure plate is as good as inside a wire nut. Please educate me. Thanks.
Do they make any metal boxes that actually have screw tabs on all four corners so that when you put the industrial cover it secures on all four corners and not just on the two opposite corners? Having those two corners as just holes is bring out my ocd. Thanks for your reply.
Never saw any in my 50 years as a sparky. They do not come loose very often if tightened properly. if worried just place a dab of clear silicone on head of screw to cover.
Hello, I am just a DIYer asking basic questions. I am just wondering why do you have your Romex through a steel conduit? Can you use AC90 through any conduits?
The only reason I did it that way was it was the cheapest option I had at the time. Some say not to use Romex in conduit because of potential heat issues but I didn’t have any issues with that set up over the 4 years or so I used it. Don’t know if you can run AC90 in conduit or not. Shouldn’t have to because it’s got its own shielding built in I would think.
Power dosent flow thru the outlet in a daisy chain it goes from one screw term to the other same side thru a copper plate with a raised bridge in between that can be separated to make 2 devices fed separately
Sure! I purchased the ones in the video off Amazon. In the video's description there should be an amazon link for the items I used in the video if you are interested. I also believe Lowes and Home Depot carry these items as well.
I, too, have heard many times that running NMC (Romex) is not permitted to be run through EMT or other conduit. If that were so, you'd think that they'd quote the section of the NEC. I'd like to read the section that says that.
My fourth ground wire goes to the metal box. If your incoming ground wire is long enough you can just loop it around the ground screw in the box and then connect the end under the wire nut with the two grounds coming off the outlets. Mine wasn't long enough for that method so I ran an extra pigtail to the metal box ground screw. Hope that makes sense.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 One other question: what is the diameter of the metal tube that's hooked up to the box at 10:12? The box I'm using is slightly different in that there is a screw attachment instead of a punched-out hole for a connection. It's an outdoor box so it has to be watertight.
Here is a link to the EMT connectors I used. amzn.to/3gTybZi You may need a different kind for outdoor instillation but I'm not sure what they are called.
This would have been even more helpful if you showed how you connect those outlets to the face plate. I'm having a really tough time finding an explanation, and i know that it doesn't go together l like an inside plate....edit - rabbit ears and screw need to be removed from outlets then secure outlets to faceplate, then faceplate gets secured to the box. Now I can complete my garage install.
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Not if you use the far superior outer two 6-32 screws. If I have a short 6-32 oval head screw I will install it. During my 50 years as a sparky have seen well over a hundred either loose or missing center screw on receptacles mounted on 1900 boxes + 4 by 4" square ) especially on ones on end of cords that get banged around. Years ago we used to drill our own holes then use either a nylock nut or hex nut with a locker washer to prevent screws from coming loose. A drop of silicone works great.
Mainly because I don't own and never have owned any tools or device that requires a 20 amp plug. It's perfectly acceptable per code to use a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp circuit as long as it is more than one single 15 amp outlet.
Best practice is to have both hots facing one another to reduce a flash if water enters box. Also best to use quality made in USA ( Not cheating china shitty tape ) electrical tape and install at least 3 full wraps around every switch & receptacle.
Failed to show how: 1. Wires were all tied together in general 2. How you got 4 ground wires, with a pigtail from each outlet, and your wires coming into your box. That's kinda the meat and potatoes behind a video like this. Otherwise, it was good until that point.
As an electrician I always use pigtails. Not for the reason if one fails they all fail as that is false info since the flow goes thru the copper tabs on the side of the outlet but, for the reason of not having the entire load of the circuit going thru each outlet.
Also, while it’s most common to put the ground on the bottom , outlets we’re designed to have the ground at the top. That way if you drop something metal it will hit the ground tab and move away from the hot. The NEC leaves it as a preference as far as residential wiring goes but in my area commercial and hospitals are required to have the ground up.
Thanks for the input.
No load goes through a receptacle when nothing is plugged into it.
Fabulous video. Simply explained, thank you!
You're very welcome! Thanks for stopping by!
I want to ask you a question ? I have been told that the ground should be up. I see other you tubes do it both ways. I want to make sure when I go this its right. Thanks for your Help.
Some people believe it's safer to install the outlets with the ground up. If something is dropped onto a partially plugged in device it won't easily arc, at least that is the theory. How you mount the outlets (ground up or down) depends on where you live. Some places favor one way or the other. Where I live I never see outlets mounted with the ground up and that's why I mounted mine with the ground down. The bottom line is you can mount them in what ever orientation you are comfortable with.
Great video. I just smashed that subscribe button. I spent all day researching and trying to figure out how to do this and right when I was ready to call it quits I came across your video. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge 👍🏽
Awesome, thank you!
Very good video you saved me time,money, headache,work you explained it so well I had trouble looking for a video like this other videos don’t explain to well and nice work recording it! Thanks again God bless you!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I'm so glad to hear the video helped you out. Thanks for stopping by.
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You skipped the part at the end! Connecting all the wires! Kind of THE important part don't you think??
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Perfect video and link to the parts!!!
Glad it was helpful!
7:48 I never knew you could mount outlets from the inside of a box. Thanks.
Best explanation on RUclips!
I appreciate that Justin! Thanks for watching!
Very great method! Thanks for sharing. Each pair of screws on the outlet has continuity, so the method doesn’t improve the performance of an outlet adjacent to a failed outlet.
Good explanation. Did you have a third ground wire you put in the pig tail and then it got grounded to the box?
Thanks! Yes I have a third pigtail for the ground that I wired to the box.
Can you make 2 work off a switch and two hot all the time. Or one outlet work off a switch and the other three constant hot.
question I'm looking to wire exactly the same as this however I want the power to continue to the next double Gang Box
I'm a diy'er and I like the way you did that. It looks professional to me and that's the way I have done it. However, I would use individual THHN wires instead of romex in emt and wrap the screw connections with electrical tape especially in metal boxes to prevent shorting.
I also think it's not correct as many people say that using all the screws means that current must go through the receptacle, assuming it's not a split receptacle. Look at the plate where the screws are mounted. Sometimes this is falsely called connecting in series. Receptacles are always in parallel. I think the distinction is more accurately described as daisy chaining vs pigtailing.
Thanks for stopping by Ted. I appreciate your comment and input!
Romex in conduit is technically against NEC. uF-b is fine in conduit and raceway but romex is not.
@@jonosterman2878 Josh, 334.15 (NM cable) lists emt as " approved protection" along with other conduits for protection from physical damage, normally ahj in garages.
Also, (not by my book) but the section in the back of the code that helps you calculate conduit fill....Ch 9. Table 4. Maybe....about page 70-695 in the 2020 code....note 2 in table points to fill requirements not designed to apply to protection piping, so as long as it fits?
Just fyi.
Have you tried the WAGO connectors, they seem to be a lot easier and neater than wire nuts?
I have not tried them but they do look easy to use.
Older Raco, Mulberry, and Steel City covers are not drilled at the top and bottom, only at the middle. I always drill them out with a 9/64" drill bit for 6-32 screws and flange nuts like the newer ones. It takes a bit of work but prevents the receptacles from possibly breaking when inserting a plug because they were not properly supported. I also use the broken out plaster ears from the receptacles as a source for free #6 flat washers. On the last one of these that I wired up I looped the black and white wires around the screws on the first receptacle and terminated them on the second one. I am not happy with Raco as the company has moved current production to China.
Work looks neat
Thank you
Hey mate rewatching your video, awesome presentation and the example I will be using when I do my outlets. Question: Was the emt pipe gap to the wall significant enough that you would recommend using and offset coupling or not?
The gap is about a 1/2" or so. My runs were fairly short so I decided to go with no offset but if I had longer runs, I think I would prefer to use an offset with hangers to hold the conduit against the wall. It's really going to be up to you as to what you can tolerate.
I think the hard part is getting the right length and nice twist on all the wires inside the box but you didn't show that part....only the finished product. Good job though!
I only have one camera. If I knock it off the bench while I'm twisting and cussing it will probably get broken. Then I won't have a camera to film my YT videos with. That's why I didn't show that part. 😂
Muy bien 👍
Say a commercial or hospital outlet. What would the failure mechanism in one outlet be that would stop the second outlet from working if the second is wired under the same pressure plate as the first? Note the high grade outlets have explicit postions for two wires under the pressure plate of any single screw. Seems to me that joining under a single pressure plate is as good as inside a wire nut. Please educate me. Thanks.
Do they make any metal boxes that actually have screw tabs on all four corners so that when you put the industrial cover it secures on all four corners and not just on the two opposite corners? Having those two corners as just holes is bring out my ocd. Thanks for your reply.
I have not seen one with tabs in all four corners.
Never saw any in my 50 years as a sparky. They do not come loose very often if tightened properly. if worried just place a dab of clear silicone on head of screw to cover.
Hello, I am just a DIYer asking basic questions. I am just wondering why do you have your Romex through a steel conduit? Can you use AC90 through any conduits?
The only reason I did it that way was it was the cheapest option I had at the time. Some say not to use Romex in conduit because of potential heat issues but I didn’t have any issues with that set up over the 4 years or so I used it. Don’t know if you can run AC90 in conduit or not. Shouldn’t have to because it’s got its own shielding built in I would think.
Excellent job 👍
Thanks for the visit
Great video
Thanks for the visit
VERY GOOD GREAT THANK FOR LETTING ME KNOW HOW TO DO IT. 😅
Happy to help
Lever nuts is the way to go
That's what I've heard. I have quite a few regular wire nuts left over from previous projects so I'll use them up first.
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 it's a game changer. It's like plug and play.
They look easy to use and easy to undo and reuse if needed. 👍
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 I don't use wago brand, I use the Jomeron brand type. It's just a preference..
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
Grounds on the bottom, unless (in my experience) you’re on the east coast where ALL MY OUTLETS ARE UPSIDE DOWN.
What size breaker is that line on?
20 amp
Power dosent flow thru the outlet in a daisy chain it goes from one screw term to the other same side thru a copper plate with a raised bridge in between that can be separated to make 2 devices fed separately
Thanks for the info
All receptacles are wired in parallel & not series.
Wouldn't those threaded things be called machine screws?
Where did you get that four pack of nuts 🔩? You said it came with it?
Yes the four nuts and bolts came with the metal box cover if I remember correctly.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thank you. Did you buy this pack from Amazon, Home Depot?
Sure! I purchased the ones in the video off Amazon. In the video's description there should be an amazon link for the items I used in the video if you are interested. I also believe Lowes and Home Depot carry these items as well.
Dude. Yes.
What about a raceway inside of a raceway??
Was that romex pulled through conduit. I was told that was a no no. The wiring was not addressed.
I, too, have heard many times that running NMC (Romex) is not permitted to be run through EMT or other conduit. If that were so, you'd think that they'd quote the section of the NEC. I'd like to read the section that says that.
It is acceptable.
@@WelshRabbit 334.15 NM cable "protection from physical damage and the basement thing. One in "B" and one in "C".
Allowed for protection from physical damage....334.15 b and c.
Looks legit to me....just how I DIY’ed mine. Better than daisy chaining....that way if a plug goes bad it won’t effect the rest in line.
I agree Roddy!
If the outlet fails, each pair of screws still has continuity, so the method is pointless.
How are there four ground wires? I’m putting one together and there’s only three.
My fourth ground wire goes to the metal box. If your incoming ground wire is long enough you can just loop it around the ground screw in the box and then connect the end under the wire nut with the two grounds coming off the outlets. Mine wasn't long enough for that method so I ran an extra pigtail to the metal box ground screw. Hope that makes sense.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Yes thank you.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 One other question: what is the diameter of the metal tube that's hooked up to the box at 10:12? The box I'm using is slightly different in that there is a screw attachment instead of a punched-out hole for a connection. It's an outdoor box so it has to be watertight.
Here is a link to the EMT connectors I used. amzn.to/3gTybZi You may need a different kind for outdoor instillation but I'm not sure what they are called.
@@patricksmith5031 looks to be 1/2 inch conduit.
This would have been even more helpful if you showed how you connect those outlets to the face plate. I'm having a really tough time finding an explanation, and i know that it doesn't go together l like an inside plate....edit - rabbit ears and screw need to be removed from outlets then secure outlets to faceplate, then faceplate gets secured to the box. Now I can complete my garage install.
Looks good but romex thru conduit would fail inspection
Is there a citation to the specific section of the NEC which says that?
334.15 allows for protection from physical damage....emt.
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You need to take a 6-32 yoke screw and secure the receptacle in the middle.
Not if you use the far superior outer two 6-32 screws. If I have a short 6-32 oval head screw I will install it. During my 50 years as a sparky have seen well over a hundred either loose or missing center screw on receptacles mounted on 1900 boxes + 4 by 4" square ) especially on ones on end of cords that get banged around. Years ago we used to drill our own holes then use either a nylock nut or hex nut with a locker washer to prevent screws from coming loose. A drop of silicone works great.
It wasn't clear how the live wires are connected
My OCD says you don't have the slots in the screw heads facing the same direction lol
lol 😀
Why use a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp wire?
Mainly because I don't own and never have owned any tools or device that requires a 20 amp plug. It's perfectly acceptable per code to use a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp circuit as long as it is more than one single 15 amp outlet.
I think 3 12 gage wires is to many for yellow wirenut
3 #12 gauge is MAX for yellow wire-nut
Look at the instructions for the wire nuts to see what combinations of wires will work properly. Instructions are online.
Any electrician with common sense higher then a pine cone will ALWAYS wire them parallel.
The video was excellent until you skipped over the wiring process
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The cover comes with the cover???🤣
Best practice is to have both hots facing one another to reduce a flash if water enters box. Also best to use quality made in USA ( Not cheating china shitty tape ) electrical tape and install at least 3 full wraps around every switch & receptacle.
That is not the best way the wire it . the way you are doing it can lead to other problems
I don't care for those blue outlets.
Failed to show how:
1. Wires were all tied together in general
2. How you got 4 ground wires, with a pigtail from each outlet, and your wires coming into your box.
That's kinda the meat and potatoes behind a video like this. Otherwise, it was good until that point.
Dude, you're bleeding.