I'm retired now after 35 years in the trade, but something that I learned early on is depending where or who you're working for, you're going to hear all of these items referred to by different names. Great video for the individual just getting into the commercial side of the trade and a portion of them being used in industrial. Remember, it's not a competition to see who's better, we're all in the same trade so instead of tearing each other down, build each other up.
Not sure why you decided to start doing these videos but I’m very grateful. As a visual learner it took months for this stuff to click reading about it but going through these videos cuts that process tremendously. Keep up the great content!
Hi Dustin. This is Bill from Sparky Channel. I want to sincerely thank you for mentioning the new Sparky Channel on one of your videos/instagram. For those who don't know, the original Sparky Channel got hacked and the hacker deleted my 934 videos and I lost my 182K subscribers. I have started a new Sparky Channel which now has 62 videos and 2600 subscribers. Some of the new Sparky Channel subscribers came from your channel after your announcement so I want to really thank you for that! Best wishes!
Sparky Channel I haven’t seen anything recently by you but I thought it was because I only subscribed in my other account. Between the two of you I learn most of my electrical. 👍 Sorry for your hack, and resubed. ✅
Tomorrow is my first day with an electrical company. I'm super nervous. I've never done this kind of work. They said I will be doing pre-fab for 6 months to a year then I will be out in the field doing 3 phase work. The cool thing is they are paying for my apprenticeship school after I'm there 60 days. I bought a bunch of tools yesterday from harbor freight because that's all I can afford. I subbed to your channel. Good information! Thanks. I'm going to just take it day by day and not get too ahead of myself. I will learn as I go.
Hey how’s it going now I’d love to know if you’re still doing it? I just started about a week ago from know nothing at all about anything I’m watching as videos as I go and some good help at the job
@@anhtuanestevez5427 hey how's it going? It's going well! I started off doing residential for a few months then I got an offer from a friend to do commercial work. I got a much bigger pay increase and I enjoy it more. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. They taught me alot and didn't throw me into the fire right away. I worked side by side with someone for a whole year and learned alot. Now I can do rough in, trims, install gear, bend pipe, pull wire, terminate panels, wire disconnects, etc. I also started at $14/hr in residential and as a 2nd year apprentice in commercial I currently make $21/hr which isn't bad for someone only doing it 2 years. Good luck!
I’m curious if the job worked out for you? Im a bit over 3 years in the trade and love it more then I ever thought was possible for a job. Next week I’m kinda getting thrown in the fire to show I’m capeable of being a lead in the future. My lead is gone all week for thanksgiving and I’ll be by myself 3 days roughing in a 4K sqft house. It’s about halfway done so still have a decent bit to go. Hopefully it goes well but I’m sure some dumb shit will happen. The homeowners/builder come with 400 change orders they want done ASAP.
Thanks for that bit of trivia! I was expecting it to be the size in cubic millimeters since the metric system has been creeping in everywhere. Close, but no cigar: 1900mm = 74.8 inches vs. 4" x4 "x4" = 64 inches.
That’s interesting. When I was in the field, we never referred to them as a 1900 or 2100. I moved to another state and realized how different the nomenclature is area to area.
I really like your videos, in particular these two about the different devices and connectors. I am a Electrical Department supervisor at a Home Depot, and trying to be more knowledgeable about the products that my customers need to buy. Keep up the great work and thanks again from a different sort of industry professional!!
Tom Garbo Thanks,i’m still in trade school so i’m gonna make all the mistakes i can while i’m still in school.My boss told me that Florida doesn’t have a lot of industrial sites,so we’re not gonna he bending much pipe at all but it’s still good to learn it.Since i’m the youngest guy at the job (18) he told me to expect to get teased a lot by the older guys Lol
Tom Garbo i got financial aid so i used that to buy a code book.I also purchased an UGLYs book last week.Ill definitely keep that in mind about the harness Lol
I have like nearly 2-3 years experience (as a helper) but its very scattered with a lot of different contractors so your videos are a huge help. Nice to catch up on stuff I have not touched in 6 months! Greatly appreciated, thanks! In NYC its either you attempt to try to get into a union which takes years or you try your luck working for private companies that sometimes do not even hold an electrical license under their name.... Lets just say credible info is scattered -- thats if you even get coworkers that speak english.
Isn't this the truth. I've been doing this for almost 20 years, & i do work in the boro's but mostly on Long Island, & it's pretty much the same thing.
What is a helper? Can't blue color trades go back to traditional terms? Your an apprentice if your learning the trade starting out. How cheap has the world got.
As someone going through the apprenticeship after a few years of rat companies working the dog shit out of me with no chance of regular raises or health insurance, I’ll say the apprenticeship route has been an amazing change. The exposure to the different environments of electrical work from industrial to commercial and some residential has been extremely helpful in learning the trade. And the regular pay raises and opportunities for travel work are huge for me
@B M fine i guess, been in 3 Unions as a young man im 55, havent been in one since i left IL in 2002, one of my unions was taken over by the Justice dept. it was so corrupt, no man should be Forced, to Pay or Join ANY organization...JUST to work..
@@Bonavire well i got very Lucky...finally i guess, im prob too old, but i do like it a lot , SO much to learn and always punch out having DONE something, etc.
Thanks for these videos to basic electrical components. I am started a new job next week with a local electrical supply company just working in their warehouse picking orders and delivering them to contractors. This has helped me greatly in becoming familiar with some of the common parts. 😊
1:21 in my experience, city, county and state, hiding a junction box is against code. I know that's not what he meant, but some people might take that wrong
In Canada a junction box just needs to remain accessible. As long as an electrician can get to it and service them, its good. That means hiding them in an attic or crawlspace is a-ok by code. Same with tucking them up into drop ceilings.
Southeast Texas here, we always call them 1900 or 2100 boxes but also know them as 4 square because we get a lot of travelers here. Industrial Electrician/Instrument Tech/Analyzer Tech of 25 years.
Would love another video of this as you could def cover Conduit Bodies and anything else you missed like wire pulling materials like bird cages, baskets, fingers, bullets, sister hooks, etc! Great video!
Dope hat!! I work in commercial but I do EMS, low voltage controls for grocery remodels but I deal a lot with these materials. I have to pend pipe and your videos are amazing. Appreciate what you do
Thank you for explaining and teaching us about these commercial materials. This coming Monday is my first day of work in commercial electricity and I found this very helpful. !! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks. I am an engineer who works in maintenance of PLCs and such, and get tossed facilities electrical work sometimes and just have to go thru piles of random electrical to figure out what to use, now I have a better idea.
Could you maybe do a video about magnetic and manual motor starters with ladder diagrams? I’m doing motor controls in school and having a hard time understand ladder diagrams for motor starts. Like how do you figure out where auxiliary contacts, overload contacts ect are on diagrams and motor starters. Love your content man. Thanks.
Next size up from 1900 is the 11-B. There's also an 8-B which before I learned what it was I called it an octobox. Spring nuts can be ordered without a spring. They are called strut nuts.
Important note about contactors: the ones used in HVAC equipment are "definite purpose" contactors. You CANNOT use them for a different purpose, such as controlling lighting in a store. Contactors for lighting are MUCH more expensive, and are listed and approved for the purpose. Definite purpose contactors have a definite purpose that is NOT lighting a store. Make sure that any contactor you install is listed for the purpose. I'm just sayin'.....
@@richt5986 Actually, no, it is against the national electrical code to use anything except an approved contactor for lighting. You cannot use an HVAC “definite purpose contactor,” which is why I mentioned that. The difference in cost between a definite purpose contactor and one that is listed for use as a lighting contactor is about 10 times.
@Art Houston sorry not the point. I may have not explained better. You can use any contactor for whatever as long as it is rated correctly by the amps and volts
I’m just getting into it. Thank you for the help. I’m taking my own notes but videos like these are great for newcomers and those who would like quick refreshers.
For those north of the border. 4x4 box, Bullnose receptacle cover (decora/standard), mud ring, steel stud box, gang box (device box), different from a cut in box, L16/Twins, AC90 (where is the spool?), Connector/coupling/liquid(or concrete tight), 4x4 blank cover, 12x12 JB (would never need a box that big for residential, useless in commercial), relay, contactor, spring nuts/spring nuts that someone broke the spring off, unistrut (deep/shallow), EMT/Rigid Conduit, Flex
Not to take anything away from you brother your awesome this is just for the apprentices. I'm a 9 yr commercial journeyman electrician out of San Antonio Tx. Great video I watch all your content, The 1900 boxes or 2100 refer to cubic inches in the code book, used for the calculation of the box fill.
8:00 That box looks very busy. We use the grey boxes with the 5/8 inch and 3/4 knockouts for bx and 3/4 pipe. Anything bigger and you can use a knockout for larger sizes. You probably won't have that many pipes or bx collecting in one box. Unless it's a pull box around a panel.
I been working in this company for around 2 months and your equipment look way better than what I’m using. Like those single connectors and doble gang connectors I’ve never seen
it's called a 1900 box because back in the day it's catalog number was 1900. At least that's the story here in Chicago. As far as those other materials, the trade names here are so different that I just had to turn the video off because I didn't want to confuse them.
As someone who is going to be running the MC cable (but not connecting to the fuse box) throughout my place, I appreciate your videos; thank you! Due to our location, companies demand huge money, and many use interns to run the cabling at $150/hr! Of course, the interns stop watches videos, plays games, questioning everything, calling friends, etc. and I refuse to pay $10,000 to run MC cable! This helps me understand the lingo better, especially when ordering or talking with my inspector. Don't worry interns, there is still enough work for you in the future, and growth isn't stopping any time soon.
@@Bapuji42 haha, right! Sorry about that. It’s common practice for companies/firms to bill there apprentices and interns out at near full rates. Law firms do this all the time, so do plumbing and electrical companies. Sad they don’t pay you more, considering what they charge.
I am not an electrician, just a fire alarm guy working with conduit sometime. 6:42 just one question, why blank cover has marking says "inside box side" ? For me both side look the same.
For commercial work always purchased panels & junction boxes without KO'S so I could make KO'S to line up with handy unistrut saving an offset . Also used steel EMT fittings instead of POS garbage die cast fittings.Have to be careful with handy gangable wall cases. Boxes from different manufacturers often will not gang together. Love the 12 by 12" JB with built in MC connectors & ground bar. If you are going to connect a critical motor or motor that will turn on & off more then say 30 times a hour best to go with a made in USA NEMA full size real deal starter ( Square D & Allen Bradley ) starter rather then inferior IEC contactors which most will not allow you to replace contacts.Flex = greenfield.
I'm only 3 years into the trade so far, but personally I prefer using the type of MC connectors that use a nut and tighten with two screws whenever possible over a snap in connector, they're easier to install. Edit: forgot to mention the 2nd part that's better is if you have a change order for whatever reason whether it's the location of a lighting changing or a desk's location, these types of MC connectors are also easier to remove when needed. Just better for the long term.
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1900 is an old catalog number. 4 square in the south. I loved working in DC. More so than in the south.
Hey Dustin I hope you pick up the video grind again soon I’d love to see some of your day like even if you wore a go pro and recorded your day or your most annoying things you come across. I’m an apprentice 6 month’s in and I enjoy your content and wanna see more day by day struggles like how you would solve getting a wire around a corner when roughing or stripped screws stuff that happens but not often and cause a big struggle for you. It’ll give me some experience or tips on my own day to day. Much love keep up the good work my dude
Something weird, my house is wired with EMT and 1900 boxes with mud rings. I don't know why that's code in my area, but it is. I honestly hate it because if I ever want to add an outlet or something, I have to run conduit and use octagon boxes or 1900 boxes! Plastic boxes and Romex isn't allowed here! There's even industrial covers in my basement where there isn't drywall! Something else that's weird is how they wired the house. There is one 15 amp circuit that supplies power to almost all the lights on the main floor, outlets in the living room, outdoor outlets, and lights in the back yard. That seems like a lot of devices for a single 15-amp circuit. Theres also a single outlet in the master bedroom that is on the same 20-amp circuit as the bathroom outlets. The rest are tied with the lights on a 15-amp circuit. If that's not weird enough, the garage outlet is on a 15-amp circuit with the outdoor lights and the laundry room lights. i don't understand why they used a 20-amp circuit for one outlet next to the breaker panel, but used a 15-amp circuit for the garage, where you have high-power tools! Not to mention, 2 separate bedrooms share a circuit, and the office shares the upstairs hallway circuit. Even my bathrooms all share one circuit for the outlets, and another for all the lights. TLDR: My house is wired weird!
Not to be a fly in the ointment, but there's PVC coated rigid conduit, called Rob Roy in the field. Also, threadless connectors can be gotten for type RMC conduit, so you're not threading it.
The gangable boxes are a pain, but they are a hell of a lot more durable than the blue plastic boxes that flip around in the wall. That romex is “acceptable” in houses, barely. I don’t think the rodents in our area have learned that 120VAC is a bad thing to eat, fair number of plastic chews.
Been in the commercial field for the past 25 plus years , recently been working in Hospitals and medical buildings , the company I’m with now uses most of the material you mentioned , except the snap in connectors , we use the locknutables 🤪 , better to use when you fish mc cable down a wall and install a cut in box , Also the mc cable in hospitals has to be Hospital Grade ( FYI , industrial covers is also called raised covers )
@@LucasGresham610 well we know how bulky those locknutable connectors are especially if you fishing down a wall into a 4”sq box that already has a snap in double barrel connector in it 🤦♂️ A lot twisting involved, not a fun fishing trip
@@mistanipples4958 It Depends on where you live , and what kind of commercial work , you could get on with a company doing government contracts and make bookoo bucks or get in a union
I had been looking for a career path for several years now. I kept thinking that because my birth dad and his brother and his father and my mom's father were all electricians that maybe I got the spark in me!😂 A few people kept talking me out of it and said that's a bad reason to go into it.. well finally one day I said "enough's enough! I'm tired of being financially unstable and not good husband material because I can't provide! I'm going to apply and go back to school." The next day I called out of work at my roofing company and drove down 3 hours to Phoenix to a training school. The school put me in touch with a very large Commercial contractor in Phoenix and I was hired later that week. I start in two weeks and I know literally nothing about this field. I'm glad I found this channel, I'm probably going to devour all of your videos over the next week before my job starts. THANK YOU!!!
@@Biglittlemack I got fibromyalgia and insomnia and started missing work and then got fired. Staying at my friends small trailer in a small town I used to live in and learning framing. My electrician company was toxic. Had to file harassment complaints w EEOC against my manager and most the guys on my crew were pretty cold. My foreman however said I was one of the best apprentices they've had in a long time. I guess my longterm plan is be humble, minimize expenses and God willing someday start my own LLC doing something I already got experience in
I am a carpenter. And we were doing a demo job, which included gutting a kitchen. And our electricians had to move lights, add outlets, add switches, and segregate lights. But the drywall was already up. And couldn’t rip it apart. How do electricians feed wire thru a wall without being able to get in from the attic or remove the drywall???
kyle blume I worked new residential electrical for a while and we cut “transfers” in the Sheetrock at studs to drill through the stud and fish, then run the wire through.. after installation or running, we would screw the piece we cut out back onto the stud and the sheet rockers would patch the cracks..
The guys that did our drywall didn’t cut any drywall aside from the new sockets being installed. And the new round holes for light cans in the ceiling.
kyle blume gotcha, the ceiling was probably the easier of the two.. they do make extremely long drill bits that allow us to hook a wire on the end of and drill through Walls, Joyce’s, and fire blocks.. it’s a lot of hard work though, not cutting or removing Sheetrock when moving runs or plugs and switches.. depending on how far the relocation is of course.. if it was only a couple inches to a foot of moving around it’s doable from the “Demo hole” from removing the fixture or outlet.
This electrical box is usually called a 1900 Box because that was the original part number from Bossert almost a hundred years ago. It is the most common box used when a simple SwitchBox is not large enough.
I remember watching this video shortly before I started my first job in electrical (didn’t know what any of them did) and then a couple months in (had a good idea what most of them did), and now 18 months in I can say that I am familiar with everyone of these materials. 🤓
Started working in the shop so I have to know every single part. I’m putting together foreman’s lists for different jobs and dropping them off. It’s pretty cool. I’ll be getting in eventually as well.
@@adrians.1154 stay on point write everything down and keep a list of the break times. Don’t ask the same question more than once. Don’t show up on their lunch or break. If you have stops to go to don’t mess around until at least after you drop everything off. Ask questions about the jobs and be interested. Learn as much of the material as you can. Show them you’re serious about the job and don’t be arrogant. Put your ego to the side. Embrace the dumb things you might do and learn from it.
I am baffled that 'four square boxes' are called anything other than that anywhere in the United States. I have heard some people call other electrical parts by their actually part number from the supply house. IE Circuit breakers, meter bases, etc.
How does the "industrial cover" secure in the "1900 box" when the box you showed only had 2 screw mounts on opposite corners yet the cover had 4 screw holes on each corner???
On a commercial jobsite you will have a set of documents including, drawings, specifications, and submittals. In these cases it is important to understand deviation in materials may not be acceptable.
Are commercial public buildings and apartment complexes in the US required to use halogen free cable against toxic gas released when heated like in Europe ?
My favorite part of doing switches is when you discover at the final that one of your lovely coworkers has tied in the wrong switch legs at the rough-in stage. Not just tied into the power pigtail... No.. Tied-in to the wrong 2gang switch box entirely 😅 (side by side in the wall but in different rooms 👍) Not *that* hard to fix... But.... Yeah 😅🥳
Here in Lincoln, NE we actually can't use MC because supposedly it takes the artistry out of the trade... or some dumb thing.... The rest of the state can use MC, but in Lincoln, we can't. I'm not sure that there is much of a difference between that and lighting whips... oh well.
What's the best way to become an apprentice? I already have a degree in electronics engineering and electrical theory, but no certifications for commercial/residential, and my education was focused on theory, not necessarily building code. Lots of experience in repair, maintenance but not install, so there is a lot of just replace it with what's already there. Everything I've come across so far is training from the ground up (including theory).
Here in the East we all call MC cable, BX cable. When it was being developed, there several versions being tested. A experimental, B experimental, C......., their names were shortend to AX, BX, CX..... The Bx won out and the name stuck. So, around here that's what we all call it. We call armor jacket (bx with no wire) , Greenfield. But that's another story
1900 box was the part number for steal city in the early 1900s. Ita actually NOT CALLED A 1900 box anywhere but the east coast. That is a slang term. The correct term is 4 square deep or shallow.
I'm retired now after 35 years in the trade, but something that I learned early on is depending where or who you're working for, you're going to hear all of these items referred to by different names. Great video for the individual just getting into the commercial side of the trade and a portion of them being used in industrial. Remember, it's not a competition to see who's better, we're all in the same trade so instead of tearing each other down, build each other up.
That's true , I've got started in the trade I know some of them in different name .
You retired too early. Keep going :)
@venividivici4253 I'm enjoying my new job of being retired way too much!! If I had known it was going to be this fun, I would've done this earlier.
Your cool asf
Amen brother
Not sure why you decided to start doing these videos but I’m very grateful. As a visual learner it took months for this stuff to click reading about it but going through these videos cuts that process tremendously. Keep up the great content!
Hi Dustin. This is Bill from Sparky Channel. I want to sincerely thank you for mentioning the new Sparky Channel on one of your videos/instagram. For those who don't know, the original Sparky Channel got hacked and the hacker deleted my 934 videos and I lost my 182K subscribers. I have started a new Sparky Channel which now has 62 videos and 2600 subscribers. Some of the new Sparky Channel subscribers came from your channel after your announcement so I want to really thank you for that! Best wishes!
Sparky Channel I haven’t seen anything recently by you but I thought it was because I only subscribed in my other account.
Between the two of you I learn most of my electrical. 👍
Sorry for your hack, and resubed. ✅
Bill, thanks for the info. I was wondering where all the sparky channel videos went.
What? That's horrible... No wonder your videos have disappeared from my RUclips recommendations. MAKE A SUPER TOUGH PASSWORD!!!!!
New subscriber sparky
wow sparky, very impressed with your video out put and quality. I feel so awful for you about your channel. I hope you can someday recover from that.
Tomorrow is my first day with an electrical company. I'm super nervous. I've never done this kind of work. They said I will be doing pre-fab for 6 months to a year then I will be out in the field doing 3 phase work. The cool thing is they are paying for my apprenticeship school after I'm there 60 days. I bought a bunch of tools yesterday from harbor freight because that's all I can afford. I subbed to your channel. Good information! Thanks. I'm going to just take it day by day and not get too ahead of myself. I will learn as I go.
Hey how’s it going now I’d love to know if you’re still doing it? I just started about a week ago from know nothing at all about anything I’m watching as videos as I go and some good help at the job
@@anhtuanestevez5427 hey how's it going? It's going well! I started off doing residential for a few months then I got an offer from a friend to do commercial work. I got a much bigger pay increase and I enjoy it more. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. They taught me alot and didn't throw me into the fire right away. I worked side by side with someone for a whole year and learned alot. Now I can do rough in, trims, install gear, bend pipe, pull wire, terminate panels, wire disconnects, etc. I also started at $14/hr in residential and as a 2nd year apprentice in commercial I currently make $21/hr which isn't bad for someone only doing it 2 years. Good luck!
Hey how's it going?@@anhtuanestevez5427
I’m curious if the job worked out for you? Im a bit over 3 years in the trade and love it more then I ever thought was possible for a job. Next week I’m kinda getting thrown in the fire to show I’m capeable of being a lead in the future. My lead is gone all week for thanksgiving and I’ll be by myself 3 days roughing in a 4K sqft house. It’s about halfway done so still have a decent bit to go. Hopefully it goes well but I’m sure some dumb shit will happen. The homeowners/builder come with 400 change orders they want done ASAP.
Here in Michigan, we call the "1900 box" a four-square box. Four-square deep, or shallow for the different varieties.
4 square deep, 4 square shallow
It’s called a 4x4 where I’m at
Yeah 4x4 where I'm at, and I'm assuming when he says 2100 box hes talking about the 4x4'11 boxes
Same here in FL
4 square, 4x4
1900 was the original part number for the 4" box sold by Bossert in the previous century.
Thanks for that bit of trivia! I was expecting it to be the size in cubic millimeters since the metric system has been creeping in everywhere. Close, but no cigar: 1900mm = 74.8 inches vs. 4" x4 "x4" = 64 inches.
That’s interesting. When I was in the field, we never referred to them as a 1900 or 2100. I moved to another state and realized how different the nomenclature is area to area.
In NH I never heard either term in 38 years
@@gerdberg4188 made it to Mt Washington a few months ago. That’s a pretty area up there
I didn't know the company, but I did know it was a product number
I really like your videos, in particular these two about the different devices and connectors. I am a Electrical Department supervisor at a Home Depot, and trying to be more knowledgeable about the products that my customers need to buy. Keep up the great work and thanks again from a different sort of industry professional!!
Went from "my dudes" to "my friends" to " my friend," next will be " to whom it may concern." lol
Lol
Nice one
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"my fellow humans of planet Earth"
"Meh, this is Dustin"
This is so convenient ,i just got hired today and our company is working on a commercial site
Nice one
Tom Garbo Thanks,i’m still in trade school so i’m gonna make all the mistakes i can while i’m still in school.My boss told me that Florida doesn’t have a lot of industrial sites,so we’re not gonna he bending much pipe at all but it’s still good to learn it.Since i’m the youngest guy at the job (18) he told me to expect to get teased a lot by the older guys Lol
Ummm. U sweep the jobsite. This wont help
Tom Garbo i got financial aid so i used that to buy a code book.I also purchased an UGLYs book last week.Ill definitely keep that in mind about the harness Lol
You'll be carrying alot of conduit and alot of item chasing lol
I have like nearly 2-3 years experience (as a helper) but its very scattered with a lot of different contractors so your videos are a huge help. Nice to catch up on stuff I have not touched in 6 months! Greatly appreciated, thanks! In NYC its either you attempt to try to get into a union which takes years or you try your luck working for private companies that sometimes do not even hold an electrical license under their name.... Lets just say credible info is scattered -- thats if you even get coworkers that speak english.
Isn't this the truth. I've been doing this for almost 20 years, & i do work in the boro's but mostly on Long Island, & it's pretty much the same thing.
No lies detected here
What is a helper? Can't blue color trades go back to traditional terms? Your an apprentice if your learning the trade starting out. How cheap has the world got.
As someone going through the apprenticeship after a few years of rat companies working the dog shit out of me with no chance of regular raises or health insurance, I’ll say the apprenticeship route has been an amazing change. The exposure to the different environments of electrical work from industrial to commercial and some residential has been extremely helpful in learning the trade. And the regular pay raises and opportunities for travel work are huge for me
Hell yea this is my first week in commercial electric, i needed this !
iver been apprentice for shit...damn near umm 6 weeks!
Congrats! I've been an apprentice seven months so far, how's the trade treating you?
@B M fine i guess, been in 3 Unions as a young man im 55, havent been in one since i left IL in 2002, one of my unions was taken over by the Justice dept. it was so corrupt, no man should be Forced, to Pay or Join ANY organization...JUST to work..
@@Bonavire well i got very Lucky...finally i guess, im prob too old, but i do like it a lot , SO much to learn and always punch out having DONE something, etc.
The 'mc' in mc cable stands for 'metal clad'.
Thanks for these videos to basic electrical components. I am started a new job next week with a local electrical supply company just working in their warehouse picking orders and delivering them to contractors. This has helped me greatly in becoming familiar with some of the common parts. 😊
1:21 in my experience, city, county and state, hiding a junction box is against code.
I know that's not what he meant, but some people might take that wrong
In Canada a junction box just needs to remain accessible. As long as an electrician can get to it and service them, its good.
That means hiding them in an attic or crawlspace is a-ok by code. Same with tucking them up into drop ceilings.
Through out my work and schooling I had never heard it called a 1900 box. Always been a 4 square or 4 square deep. Learn something new every day
Southeast Texas here, we always call them 1900 or 2100 boxes but also know them as 4 square because we get a lot of travelers here.
Industrial Electrician/Instrument Tech/Analyzer Tech of 25 years.
I was wondering if I was the only one who never heard the name 1900😂😂
I always thought it was called junction box but when I entered the field it was either 4x4 by box or 1900
Same here in Ohio. At least in my area
Always kind cool to hear what guys call things from definitely parts of the country. around here we call them 4x4 combo deep.
Dustin, please do more of these on commercial electrician work. Always enjoy your videos, thanks man!
I love your content by the way. I was just given my first apprentice, and I told him to check out your videos in his spare time!
Try this use a 3/4 mud ring on 5/8 drywall best fit.
Would love another video of this as you could def cover Conduit Bodies and anything else you missed like wire pulling materials like bird cages, baskets, fingers, bullets, sister hooks, etc! Great video!
yes please
Dope hat!! I work in commercial but I do EMS, low voltage controls for grocery remodels but I deal a lot with these materials. I have to pend pipe and your videos are amazing. Appreciate what you do
Thank you for explaining and teaching us about these commercial materials. This coming Monday is my first day of work in commercial electricity and I found this very helpful. !! Keep up the good work!!
How did it go!??? I also start in a few days and I am excited!
Thanks. I am an engineer who works in maintenance of PLCs and such, and get tossed facilities electrical work sometimes and just have to go thru piles of random electrical to figure out what to use, now I have a better idea.
Could you maybe do a video about magnetic and manual motor starters with ladder diagrams? I’m doing motor controls in school and having a hard time understand ladder diagrams for motor starts. Like how do you figure out where auxiliary contacts, overload contacts ect are on diagrams and motor starters. Love your content man. Thanks.
jared thompson RUclipsr "Watch Wes Work" video called "CNC Machine Stuck in Emergency Stop" will help you out.
Next size up from 1900 is the 11-B. There's also an 8-B which before I learned what it was I called it an octobox.
Spring nuts can be ordered without a spring. They are called strut nuts.
Important note about contactors: the ones used in HVAC equipment are "definite purpose" contactors. You CANNOT use them for a different purpose, such as controlling lighting in a store. Contactors for lighting are MUCH more expensive, and are listed and approved for the purpose. Definite purpose contactors have a definite purpose that is NOT lighting a store. Make sure that any contactor you install is listed for the purpose. I'm just sayin'.....
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You could use any contact anywhere as long as the amps is what is rated for the contactor.
I do lighting controls with contactors that are only meant for 12 V and I have other lighting contactors That are rated for 2hundred amps at 480v
@@richt5986 Actually, no, it is against the national electrical code to use anything except an approved contactor for lighting. You cannot use an HVAC “definite purpose contactor,” which is why I mentioned that. The difference in cost between a definite purpose contactor and one that is listed for use as a lighting contactor is about 10 times.
@Art Houston sorry not the point. I may have not explained better. You can use any contactor for whatever as long as it is rated correctly by the amps and volts
I’m just getting into it. Thank you for the help. I’m taking my own notes but videos like these are great for newcomers and those who would like quick refreshers.
For those north of the border.
4x4 box, Bullnose receptacle cover (decora/standard), mud ring, steel stud box, gang box (device box), different from a cut in box, L16/Twins, AC90 (where is the spool?), Connector/coupling/liquid(or concrete tight), 4x4 blank cover, 12x12 JB (would never need a box that big for residential, useless in commercial), relay, contactor, spring nuts/spring nuts that someone broke the spring off, unistrut (deep/shallow), EMT/Rigid Conduit, Flex
Another name that some people call flex by is “greenfield” especially in and around Chicago area.
Another thing is people might call the industrial covers “garvins”
It's greenfield on the east coast too.
it's greenfield if it has no wire in it. MC has wire in it.
Not to take anything away from you brother your awesome this is just for the apprentices. I'm a 9 yr commercial journeyman electrician out of San Antonio Tx. Great video I watch all your content, The 1900 boxes or 2100 refer to cubic inches in the code book, used for the calculation of the box fill.
Excellent video for people learning electrical work and Great RUclips channel Att (Rivera Electrical service LLC) from Puerto Rico 👍🏻
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That box looks very busy.
We use the grey boxes with the 5/8 inch and 3/4 knockouts for bx and 3/4 pipe. Anything bigger and you can use a knockout for larger sizes. You probably won't have that many pipes or bx collecting in one box. Unless it's a pull box around a panel.
This guy is so good at explaining things.
I been working in this company for around 2 months and your equipment look way better than what I’m using. Like those single connectors and doble gang connectors I’ve never seen
Gonna get a hoodie for Christmas this guy is good at explaining, I've done that before...
1900 was the original part number for the 4x4 box.
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Hi Dustin, not sure if you have already but I could not find a video on single phase vs 3 phase. Thank you. Keep up the great work!!!
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it's called a 1900 box because back in the day it's catalog number was 1900. At least that's the story here in Chicago. As far as those other materials, the trade names here are so different that I just had to turn the video off because I didn't want to confuse them.
That's what I've heard too.
I’m a low voltage guy and absolutely needed this. Thank you ❤❤
As someone who is going to be running the MC cable (but not connecting to the fuse box) throughout my place, I appreciate your videos; thank you! Due to our location, companies demand huge money, and many use interns to run the cabling at $150/hr! Of course, the interns stop watches videos, plays games, questioning everything, calling friends, etc. and I refuse to pay $10,000 to run MC cable! This helps me understand the lingo better, especially when ordering or talking with my inspector. Don't worry interns, there is still enough work for you in the future, and growth isn't stopping any time soon.
wtf I get paid $22/hr to run MC
@@Bapuji42 are you an intern or electrician?
@@inve lol apprentice obviously
What's an intern?
@@Bapuji42 haha, right! Sorry about that.
It’s common practice for companies/firms to bill there apprentices and interns out at near full rates. Law firms do this all the time, so do plumbing and electrical companies.
Sad they don’t pay you more, considering what they charge.
I am not an electrician, just a fire alarm guy working with conduit sometime.
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just one question, why blank cover has marking says "inside box side" ? For me both side look the same.
You gonna do PVC and fittings, also liquid tight and fittings. We do a lot of underground with PVC schedule 40 & 80
Love your videos trying to get into electrical right now. Definitely teaching me alot.
For commercial work always purchased panels & junction boxes without KO'S so I could make KO'S to line up with handy unistrut saving an offset . Also used steel EMT fittings instead of POS garbage die cast fittings.Have to be careful with handy gangable wall cases. Boxes from different manufacturers often will not gang together. Love the 12 by 12" JB with built in MC connectors & ground bar. If you are going to connect a critical motor or motor that will turn on & off more then say 30 times a hour best to go with a made in USA NEMA full size real deal starter ( Square D & Allen Bradley ) starter rather then inferior IEC contactors which most will not allow you to replace contacts.Flex = greenfield.
I'm only 3 years into the trade so far, but personally I prefer using the type of MC connectors that use a nut and tighten with two screws whenever possible over a snap in connector, they're easier to install.
Edit: forgot to mention the 2nd part that's better is if you have a change order for whatever reason whether it's the location of a lighting changing or a desk's location, these types of MC connectors are also easier to remove when needed. Just better for the long term.
1900 is an old catalog number. 4 square in the south. I loved working in DC. More so than in the south.
Except parking is a pain. I've been in and out of DC, but mostly the NoVA area.
Hey Dustin I hope you pick up the video grind again soon I’d love to see some of your day like even if you wore a go pro and recorded your day or your most annoying things you come across. I’m an apprentice 6 month’s in and I enjoy your content and wanna see more day by day struggles like how you would solve getting a wire around a corner when roughing or stripped screws stuff that happens but not often and cause a big struggle for you. It’ll give me some experience or tips on my own day to day. Much love keep up the good work my dude
I appreciate these videos that take you back to the basics. 👍🏻
9:39 you say add logic to analog circuit. Relays only handle digital circuits. Digital = on/off. Am I wrong ?
Something weird, my house is wired with EMT and 1900 boxes with mud rings. I don't know why that's code in my area, but it is. I honestly hate it because if I ever want to add an outlet or something, I have to run conduit and use octagon boxes or 1900 boxes! Plastic boxes and Romex isn't allowed here! There's even industrial covers in my basement where there isn't drywall!
Something else that's weird is how they wired the house.
There is one 15 amp circuit that supplies power to almost all the lights on the main floor, outlets in the living room, outdoor outlets, and lights in the back yard. That seems like a lot of devices for a single 15-amp circuit.
Theres also a single outlet in the master bedroom that is on the same 20-amp circuit as the bathroom outlets. The rest are tied with the lights on a 15-amp circuit.
If that's not weird enough, the garage outlet is on a 15-amp circuit with the outdoor lights and the laundry room lights. i don't understand why they used a 20-amp circuit for one outlet next to the breaker panel, but used a 15-amp circuit for the garage, where you have high-power tools!
Not to mention, 2 separate bedrooms share a circuit, and the office shares the upstairs hallway circuit.
Even my bathrooms all share one circuit for the outlets, and another for all the lights.
TLDR: My house is wired weird!
As and electrical estimator that was never in the field, I really appreciate your videos especially this one.
I love how comprehensive this video is!
In Canada the first two are called 4x4’s and 4x4 duplex covers lol but I’m guessing the name 1900 comes from Iberville’s product number
In my area flexible metal conduit is called greenfield. I assume that was originally a brand name.
That's what I learned it as, too. And the weatherproof or Raintite, as Dutin referred to it as was called Sealtite.
Currently in the HVAC trade but thinking about switching to electrical and working to get my masters and own my own business one day
Not to be a fly in the ointment, but there's PVC coated rigid conduit, called Rob Roy in the field. Also, threadless connectors can be gotten for type RMC conduit, so you're not threading it.
I work mostly in refineries. We use a bunch of strut and spring nuts. Most of the time we rip the spring off the spring nut.
Cool where at?
@@VictorHernandez-ph5vb Sarnia Ontario in chemical valley
@@travislmcdonald ok . Yea I'm in the refineries too. S. Calif
The gangable boxes are a pain, but they are a hell of a lot more durable than the blue plastic boxes that flip around in the wall. That romex is “acceptable” in houses, barely. I don’t think the rodents in our area have learned that 120VAC is a bad thing to eat, fair number of plastic chews.
This is pretty much all we use in NYC. Whether it’s skyscraper or a townhouse.
same near the Chicago area.
Maybe it’s just AZ but I have NEVER heard of a 1900 box. We call them 4S boxes here lol.
Been in the commercial field for the past 25 plus years , recently been working in Hospitals and medical buildings , the company I’m with now uses most of the material you mentioned , except the snap in connectors , we use the locknutables 🤪 , better to use when you fish mc cable down a wall and install a cut in box , Also the mc cable in hospitals has to be Hospital Grade ( FYI , industrial covers is also called raised covers )
As a service electrician I prefer the locknut MC connectors as well.
@@LucasGresham610 well we know how bulky those locknutable connectors are especially if you fishing down a wall into a 4”sq box that already has a snap in double barrel connector in it 🤦♂️ A lot twisting involved, not a fun fishing trip
Thinking about dropping hvac school and going to commercial electrician, mind if I ask how much u make? I’m trying to get a feel for what pays most
@@mistanipples4958 It Depends on where you live , and what kind of commercial work , you could get on with a company doing government contracts and make bookoo bucks or get in a union
I had been looking for a career path for several years now. I kept thinking that because my birth dad and his brother and his father and my mom's father were all electricians that maybe I got the spark in me!😂 A few people kept talking me out of it and said that's a bad reason to go into it.. well finally one day I said "enough's enough! I'm tired of being financially unstable and not good husband material because I can't provide! I'm going to apply and go back to school." The next day I called out of work at my roofing company and drove down 3 hours to Phoenix to a training school. The school put me in touch with a very large Commercial contractor in Phoenix and I was hired later that week. I start in two weeks and I know literally nothing about this field. I'm glad I found this channel, I'm probably going to devour all of your videos over the next week before my job starts. THANK YOU!!!
How’s it going man… how long did it take to catch your balance as an electrician? I just started 4 days ago and still feel like i know nothing
@@Biglittlemack I got fibromyalgia and insomnia and started missing work and then got fired. Staying at my friends small trailer in a small town I used to live in and learning framing. My electrician company was toxic. Had to file harassment complaints w EEOC against my manager and most the guys on my crew were pretty cold. My foreman however said I was one of the best apprentices they've had in a long time. I guess my longterm plan is be humble, minimize expenses and God willing someday start my own LLC doing something I already got experience in
I am a carpenter. And we were doing a demo job, which included gutting a kitchen. And our electricians had to move lights, add outlets, add switches, and segregate lights. But the drywall was already up. And couldn’t rip it apart. How do electricians feed wire thru a wall without being able to get in from the attic or remove the drywall???
kyle blume I worked new residential electrical for a while and we cut “transfers” in the Sheetrock at studs to drill through the stud and fish, then run the wire through.. after installation or running, we would screw the piece we cut out back onto the stud and the sheet rockers would patch the cracks..
The guys that did our drywall didn’t cut any drywall aside from the new sockets being installed. And the new round holes for light cans in the ceiling.
kyle blume gotcha, the ceiling was probably the easier of the two.. they do make extremely long drill bits that allow us to hook a wire on the end of and drill through Walls, Joyce’s, and fire blocks.. it’s a lot of hard work though, not cutting or removing Sheetrock when moving runs or plugs and switches.. depending on how far the relocation is of course.. if it was only a couple inches to a foot of moving around it’s doable from the “Demo hole” from removing the fixture or outlet.
Of course Dustin could give you the proper technical terms and ideology behind how we go about doing things like that!😂
I was figuring a video would be slick
We test all of our employees on some of these parts! You've got to know!
Usually called a 4 square box or 4 11/16 box but then depending where you are people call it differently
This electrical box is usually called a 1900 Box because that was the original part number from Bossert almost a hundred years ago. It is the most common box used when a simple SwitchBox is not large enough.
Just came across your video - Amazing. Very informative. I am getting into the commercial electrical as well and this helps a lot. Stay safe.
I remember watching this video shortly before I started my first job in electrical (didn’t know what any of them did) and then a couple months in (had a good idea what most of them did), and now 18 months in I can say that I am familiar with everyone of these materials. 🤓
Thank you, I have been wanting you to make a series of videos like this love the channel
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Thanks Dustin, I'm getting ready! 💪
Started working in the shop so I have to know every single part. I’m putting together foreman’s lists for different jobs and dropping them off. It’s pretty cool. I’ll be getting in eventually as well.
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@@adrians.1154 material handler. same shit.
@@Alex-jo2oi nice, im about to start as one, any tips?
@@adrians.1154 stay on point write everything down and keep a list of the break times. Don’t ask the same question more than once. Don’t show up on their lunch or break. If you have stops to go to don’t mess around until at least after you drop everything off. Ask questions about the jobs and be interested. Learn as much of the material as you can. Show them you’re serious about the job and don’t be arrogant. Put your ego to the side. Embrace the dumb things you might do and learn from it.
@@adrians.1154 almost forgot an important one. Take initiative and don’t wait for them to tell you what to do.
Yup! There’s way more but this was a great overview. Commercial rules!!
I am baffled that 'four square boxes' are called anything other than that anywhere in the United States. I have heard some people call other electrical parts by their actually part number from the supply house. IE Circuit breakers, meter bases, etc.
"Four square", "four square box" here in FL
Santiago Garcia never heard anyone call it anything other than 1900 in FL
4x4 where I live.
Lovin' the Letterkenny big shoots!
so 1900 is what we call 4 square and the 2100 is the 4 11 or four eleven right?
Relay and contactor are different terms. A contactor is in a relay which also has a solenoid.
Good video! Anyone know If M/C CABLE can be used in cellulose insulation? Not sure if it can harm the casing. Having trouble finding info on this!
Really helpful tips. Hope the channel keeps growing.
I looked it up. They're called 1900 boxes because that was the original part number from the manufacturer Bossert.
How does the "industrial cover" secure in the "1900 box" when the box you showed only had 2 screw mounts on opposite corners yet the cover had 4 screw holes on each corner???
Great video. How about one on all the different emt clamps.
On a commercial jobsite you will have a set of documents including, drawings, specifications, and submittals. In these cases it is important to understand deviation in materials may not be acceptable.
Are commercial public buildings and apartment complexes in the US required to use halogen free cable against toxic gas released when heated like in Europe ?
Europe just needs to fix that problem
My favorite part of doing switches is when you discover at the final that one of your lovely coworkers has tied in the wrong switch legs at the rough-in stage.
Not just tied into the power pigtail... No..
Tied-in to the wrong 2gang switch box entirely 😅 (side by side in the wall but in different rooms 👍)
Not *that* hard to fix... But.... Yeah 😅🥳
Here in Lincoln, NE we actually can't use MC because supposedly it takes the artistry out of the trade... or some dumb thing.... The rest of the state can use MC, but in Lincoln, we can't. I'm not sure that there is much of a difference between that and lighting whips... oh well.
In my area mc is ok for commercial but not allowed for residential. Anything exposed must be piped.
The most useful thing anyone should know is the relays. You figure that out and you’re gold
What's the best way to become an apprentice? I already have a degree in electronics engineering and electrical theory, but no certifications for commercial/residential, and my education was focused on theory, not necessarily building code. Lots of experience in repair, maintenance but not install, so there is a lot of just replace it with what's already there. Everything I've come across so far is training from the ground up (including theory).
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Here in the East we all call MC cable, BX cable. When it was being developed, there several versions being tested. A experimental, B experimental, C......., their names were shortend to AX, BX, CX..... The Bx won out and the name stuck. So, around here that's what we all call it. We call armor jacket (bx with no wire) , Greenfield. But that's another story
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1st 4sqr box 2nd box is a brecket box 3rd is a gang box snap in connected are crap cause if you got to remove them it's a pain
1900 box was the part number for steal city in the early 1900s. Ita actually NOT CALLED A 1900 box anywhere but the east coast. That is a slang term. The correct term is 4 square deep or shallow.
Good basic info, but we have some different lingo here haha! Good vids, keep em comin!
I start my apprenticeship this Monday I’m excited I’m doing commercial
👍👍up thank you bro for your time I really appreciate you teaching us your good information
THANK YOU soooo much Dustin! You're awesome!!
What's your opinion on the use of red devils with MC connectors?
You're doing fucking great.
Never heard of 1900. Just a 4in sq to me lol. Ours has less syllables.
Keep these comin, the more material vids the better
This is such.a coincidence today i was running rmc in lab lol nice video
Mc is BX cable around here in Ontario
Where’s all the 3 phase stuff out there?
Been out of distribution since 2015 and this was a to down memory lane.