Hmmmm... wonder what the purchase price of this parts bin speical will be .... producing bodywork present day is CHEAP ... and easy ... the rest is just parts picked off the shelf... Put fairings on the Duke 1390, 1290 whatever the CCs are today and sell it out KTM...
I ride a 1290 and couldn’t agree more, torque is what makes me love the bike. Rode bikes with 200hp but the torque makes me smile so much, nothing can keep up out of a corner (road riding)
4:55 what a down to earth guy totally in tune with the target audience, not so much marketing BS, I hate when triumph do their bits and they just come up with the stupidest comparisons sometimes and ignore glaring things people might be interesting in.
So refreshing to see one of these KTM people involved in the development speak freely about how they made this and their thoughts behind (instead of all that corporate bs talk you can sometimes get) Well done KTM!
Actually kept me from buying a brand new 2022 Panigale V4S. Found a used 2018 Winglet free V4 instead. Shame that the manufacturers aren't smart enough to know that we all hate them and if they need to homologate for racing that they should make them easily removable and include some type of good looking block off plate.
We'll likely see a RC790 in the future to go against the RS660 and R7. But I've heard talks of CFMOTO having plans on releasing a V4 Superbike. CFMOTO owns KTM, obviously the engineering R & D has to be done in Austria. I think KTM might be supplying that motor and working on one of their own. Once it's finished they'll put it in a V4 superbike and CFMOTO will use that engine to develop a bike of their own. Just speculation tho.
@@thepsychicpeach8425 KTM is not owned by CF Moto, the Chinese factory that builds the parallel twin KTM bikes is owned by the same group that owns CF Moto. KTM itself is co-owned by Pierer Group and Bajaj Auto Limited.
They won't. He specifically said they're not going to chase high horsepower AND that they don't want to risk making the engine unreliable. How can you hear that and say "wow let's hope for 2,000 more rpm and huge power !"
@@noblaw7595 You didn’t pay much attention to this did you as the rev limiter has been increased by 1,500 rpm and still safe and reliable. As an ex Australian Superbike Racer, these engines get pushed way further as you’re not chasing 10’s of 1,000’s in engine reliability, just max performance. So as a road bike come race bike it’s safe. When converted to a track only weapon the max revs will be lifted further which is basically what has been happening for 100 years. OMG.
Yes this is the sweet spot for a fast road / track bike. But it seems like it’s just come full circle really. It’s a litre bike with a power output of about 130 bhp (im Guessing??) That’s like superbikes at the end of the 90s! Now the top bikes have all gone mental in capacity and power output. They’re awesome, but stupidly quick and expensive, and now we’re talking about these ones as “super-sports”bikes. Which is what we called 600s back in the day. So yes - looks ace. A fast 1000c V twin race-inspired bike. They were good back then and still are!
There's something refreshingly honest about this engineers review of his project. He really gets it - and I wish I was lucky enough to own one! It looks fantastic!
Why the fuck are people complaining g about the cams eating themselves, I know multiple owners that haven’t had an issue since the day they bought their bikes two of them own a 790 for track use only not an issue there. I owned a 2020 Duke 790 and put 23000km on it. No issue what so ever, do you people just love to complain about KTM all the time?
Buy one, find out. Sick of non-KTM owners knocking them. Honda on the VTR1000 had a problem with cam chain tensioners, would it stop you buying an Africa Twin? Let it go FFS
If they bring this to the US I'm definitely interested. The rc8 always catches my eye when i see one out, this isn't quite that but will probably be more liveable
I need it. Any idea of price? This is the first new bike in years that I am already planning to get. I love the new cbr600rr, but i can't justify swapping my 2014 cbr600rr for the new one, when the old one is already so good, and i already have it. Having had a Ducati 749s and 748r, i love my middleweight twins, but I'm not keen on the panigale v2. And I live for sportsbikes but don't see the point of 1000cc nuclear hand grenades that are too powerful to ever use. Price is the bit I'm scared of. Knowing me I'll be forced into a second hand one if its much more than the cbr But i like what i see so far.
@@TheInfantry98ive been getting old since the day i was born. Kids called me the old man at school. But, i can handle a thou, i just don't see the point. Riding it like a big girls blouse but still doing an absurd speed isn't my idea of fun. I'd rather feel like a hero ragging it at a much lower speed.
This is the bike I've been waiting for. I own an sv650s and an sv1000s so it's pretty evident I love the twins lol. The sv650s is perfect for throwing around in twisties but I just wish it had a little bit more power so I got the sv1000s but the handling on that bike is sub par. With so many middle-weight twins in the market I've been waiting for a modern big twin sportbike that actually handles well and this is looking like my dream bike. The torque of a 1000 supersport but the gearing and power of a 600 is the perfect road bike in my opinion. Here in New Zealand most of our twisty roads are tight, sharp, blind corners so very technical riding as opposed to long open sweepers with lots of vision, an I4 superbike just doesn't make sense here.
I want this bike soooooo bad! I'll have to probably sell all my other bikes to afford one but i think it's gonna be worth it. I don't need a 200+hp monster. And the supersport class has been lacking any innovation for years now. This ktm is exactly what I need in life. A cutting edge track weapon with usable power figures and hopefully a usable budget.
I told myself I would only upgrade if Ktm released a large displacement street legal sport bike. I didn’t expect this so early or at all so cheers guys. Way to make my dreams come true! :)
At the local level I find the mix of next gen supersport bikes to make for interesting racing. *REALLY* hoping Yamaha addresses that bottom of the class torque with an R9 ASAP, I am damn near ready to buy one today.
Yeah wish Yamaha would hurry up. I'm gonna end up buying a mt09 just because that engine is so good. But imo they're kinda ugly I would buy the R9 today if they would release it.
KTMs are very right about the focus on torque and comfort. As much as I love my new M1000XR and its top end, and even considering its shiftcam tech, the benchmark of a street bike performance in terms of engine for me remains gen3 1290 SDR. Once experienced that torque changes your perception forever.
Reliability should be the priority for KTM, as this is the main reason why past owners sell them and go to another brand, sort this out and the brand would be one of the top manufacturers
The RS660 is a great bike.. Very comfortable.. it just lacks power! If KTM can make this as comfortable as the RS660 with 20 bhp more. I think they will be onto a winner.
It make sens actually on the road you do not feel HP but torque when you ride.With Yamaha R9 on the cards KTM 990 RC will be nice option vs expensive V2 Panigale.
This, RS660, CBR600RR, V2, 675SR, ZX-6R, R9, or F3? The usability focus for the road & a decent level of supersport performance does make this an attractive option if KTM can pull it off. Pricing, quality fit & finish plus reliability will be critical. On top of the calibration of electronic systems working for the bike where handling will be expected to be sharp. We will be spoilt for choice in a year's time.
I had hoped that the there will be two exhausts. One by the "seat unit" and one shot by the swing arm...I always had a weakness for this sort of exhaust placement since the 500cc era. However it never made it into the road legal versions. Possibly due to heat / noise issues?
I have to admit that the wrap is pretty effective, it's really difficult to see what the lines of this bike look like. Looks like it will be a good looking bike.
Now that we have this bike coming, the r9 and Panigale V2, I think it forces Suzuki to update the 750 and Kawi and Aprilia to raise the engine capacity of the Zx6 and Rs660 which makes sense as they both release lower cc bikes that don’t make sense as they are so slow close to their middle weight sport bike.
Dam nice looking bike Al. If my sportbike days weren’t over because of my old age and lack of flexibility I would be all over that. Its going to make a big impact if they keep the price in the mid teens. Street bike track bike hell yeah GoGo Ktm.
World War 1 Dazzle Camo 👌. Looking forward to the end product. I agree with your sign off. Superbikes have become Hyperbikes and nobody much is buying them. It'll be interesting to see if there is a market for this. I hope there is.
It might be a stupid question but what is the point of this? Street racing? In which country? Bangladesh? Make a track bike, keep the bits and drop the price. Next. Ps. Ah sorry I did not realise this is a homologation exercise.
Seeing this begs the question could a v4 be close behind as they're already admitting to running ssp in wsbk could they give us a panigale-esque v2 and v4 variation for wsbk with everything they've learned from the gp v4
I have never clicked on a video so quick🥵 I hope they sell a ton and it has great success in the middleweight class.
It's a hair off a litre, is that considered middleweight nowadays?
@@jamiemcgrory1964Yes.... keep up!
@@jamiemcgrory1964If it’s super sport class legal, yes.
I might want to have a go with owning one, gloss black would be a nice change of pace from mostly orange.
Hmmmm... wonder what the purchase price of this parts bin speical will be .... producing bodywork present day is CHEAP ... and easy ... the rest is just parts picked off the shelf... Put fairings on the Duke 1390, 1290 whatever the CCs are today and sell it out KTM...
KTMs focus on torque is such an important aspect
I ride a 1290 and couldn’t agree more, torque is what makes me love the bike. Rode bikes with 200hp but the torque makes me smile so much, nothing can keep up out of a corner (road riding)
homie is riding a QR-code
Good way of hiding bodywork detail so other teams can't copy.
🤣🤣🤣
@@mickenoss Just use the Lidar camera on an iPhone. That doesn't care about the paint.
😅
That was f'n good.
KTM modelled the paint on Chris's leathers
I was hoping that he'd get to ride it because his body wouldn't give anything away with those matching leathers.
damn that looks sharp as fck. i remember when they released the RC8 back in the day, that bike still looks sharp to this day.
4:55 what a down to earth guy totally in tune with the target audience, not so much marketing BS, I hate when triumph do their bits and they just come up with the stupidest comparisons sometimes and ignore glaring things people might be interesting in.
Triumph launches are a joke. Marketing bs at its finest. KTM listen and know we actually ride our bikes 🍻
So refreshing to see one of these KTM people involved in the development speak freely about how they made this and their thoughts behind (instead of all that corporate bs talk you can sometimes get) Well done KTM!
It sounds like corporate talk to me still. Think he's too conscious to stay on messages. Still can be wrost.
That body with a V4 would be fantastic.
A 1390 Hyper RC R Evo?
Really hope it has the option for the MotoGP Livery
The winglet mania can’t go away soon enough
Fax
Actually kept me from buying a brand new 2022 Panigale V4S. Found a used 2018 Winglet free V4 instead. Shame that the manufacturers aren't smart enough to know that we all hate them and if they need to homologate for racing that they should make them easily removable and include some type of good looking block off plate.
@@josephbilotta5994the 2022 model is so much better looking than 2018 that I actually think you might be clinically insane for buying the 2018 instead
It's good for the track but on the road? It's hilarious to say the least. 😆
Triumph need Daytona 765
Triumph needs to bring new bike in that sector 765 engine feels underpowered and electronics are 2 levels behind the compilation
Yes finally. I had an RC8R been waiting years for a replacement. The chassis on it alone still rivals modern bikes
‘Hopefully plenty of wheelies’ 😂 got to love KTM. Might need one for my next bike 🏍️
11:04 there's something we like to hear from the creators of the bikes
I thought Stath was gonna be all "naaahhh mate, that'll get us demonetised" ...whilst grinning at the camera. 😂
i dont think ktm makes a bike without ensuring it will wheelie good
i really liked the RC-8 back in the day too... i hope to the street version in person one day
Fantastic the ktm have done this. Now come on triumph, make a full fat Daytona 765!
Come on KTM
We need a full range of sport bike
RC390 - RC690 - RC890 - RC1290
A 690 would be perfect
We'll likely see a RC790 in the future to go against the RS660 and R7. But I've heard talks of CFMOTO having plans on releasing a V4 Superbike. CFMOTO owns KTM, obviously the engineering R & D has to be done in Austria. I think KTM might be supplying that motor and working on one of their own. Once it's finished they'll put it in a V4 superbike and CFMOTO will use that engine to develop a bike of their own. Just speculation tho.
@@thepsychicpeach8425 cfmoto does not own ktm
@@thepsychicpeach8425 Own KTM? Doubt that....
@@thepsychicpeach8425
KTM is not owned by CF Moto, the Chinese factory that builds the parallel twin KTM bikes is owned by the same group that owns CF Moto.
KTM itself is co-owned by Pierer Group and Bajaj Auto Limited.
As Hp is a derivative of torque. If they can increase this engine’s redline up by at least an additional 1,500 rpm then it will be something special.
They won't. He specifically said they're not going to chase high horsepower AND that they don't want to risk making the engine unreliable. How can you hear that and say "wow let's hope for 2,000 more rpm and huge power !"
@@noblaw7595 You didn’t pay much attention to this did you as the rev limiter has been increased by 1,500 rpm and still safe and reliable. As an ex Australian Superbike Racer, these engines get pushed way further as you’re not chasing 10’s of 1,000’s in engine reliability, just max performance. So as a road bike come race bike it’s safe. When converted to a track only weapon the max revs will be lifted further which is basically what has been happening for 100 years. OMG.
do we get a discount if we select the Zebra colors?? 😉
Kinda like Ducati, put a near 1000CC bike in the super-sport class. Instant wins.
My dream. Working hard for it. Will post pictures on it in 2030
Yes this is the sweet spot for a fast road / track bike. But it seems like it’s just come full circle really. It’s a litre bike with a power output of about 130 bhp (im Guessing??) That’s like superbikes at the end of the 90s! Now the top bikes have all gone mental in capacity and power output. They’re awesome, but stupidly quick and expensive, and now we’re talking about these ones as “super-sports”bikes. Which is what we called 600s back in the day. So yes - looks ace. A fast 1000c V twin race-inspired bike. They were good back then and still are!
Good to see Gareth out there making a success in the global motorcycle world!
There's something refreshingly honest about this engineers review of his project. He really gets it - and I wish I was lucky enough to own one! It looks fantastic!
can't wait for these to hit Australia.
A 12000 RPM limit would be so perfect...😍😍😍
I'd say it will be 11k for EU regs. But an aftermarket ecu will sort that out
If the cams are the same. Can we expect the same cam wear that i and many others have suffered on the 790/890 platform?
''Cant wait to see you ride it, hopefully lots of wheelies''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! same here mate. SEND IT!
Shout out to the South African 🇿🇦 🤙
A liter bike with 128 PS. I am properly impressed! I'll hand it to KTM though, they're good at marketing.
I hope the 990's cams don't eat themselves alive like the 790/890 LC8c platform bikes.
There are more people writing/complaining about these cams than there are people experience it.
Why the fuck are people complaining g about the cams eating themselves, I know multiple owners that haven’t had an issue since the day they bought their bikes two of them own a 790 for track use only not an issue there. I owned a 2020 Duke 790 and put 23000km on it. No issue what so ever, do you people just love to complain about KTM all the time?
@@lameprofilepic3931 These guys love to get high off of writing and reading B.S on forums.
Buy one, find out. Sick of non-KTM owners knocking them. Honda on the VTR1000 had a problem with cam chain tensioners, would it stop you buying an Africa Twin? Let it go FFS
@@lameprofilepic3931 Every owner i know has problems with them. So i think its a pretty valid complaint.
Does this also come with chocolate cams?
If they bring this to the US I'm definitely interested. The rc8 always catches my eye when i see one out, this isn't quite that but will probably be more liveable
Someone listened to the customer surveys it seems.
The RC8 was hugely underrated, comfy, quick, Goldilocks.
This besides my Street Triple RS would be a dream!
Same here. This prototype looks like a MotoGP bike. Cheers from Brazil
8:41 where I study, a teacher often comes in a panigale V2 (if the weather allows it lol). I think he nailed that part
Good work Nige. Even tho it’s dazzle camo paint I like it as it is.
I think my bright green bike needs a bright orange bike next to it in my garage come next year! 2/5 of the way to a pack of Skittles...
Get a panigale as well and you are 3/5
@@Doko88 I like the way you think.
@@scottmcpeek4132if your girl asks just refer her to this comment 😉
I’m so glad you got the first look on this bike, what a bike, what a down to earth Bloke, AL what a top interviewer ❤
I need it.
Any idea of price?
This is the first new bike in years that I am already planning to get.
I love the new cbr600rr, but i can't justify swapping my 2014 cbr600rr for the new one, when the old one is already so good, and i already have it.
Having had a Ducati 749s and 748r, i love my middleweight twins, but I'm not keen on the panigale v2.
And I live for sportsbikes but don't see the point of 1000cc nuclear hand grenades that are too powerful to ever use.
Price is the bit I'm scared of. Knowing me I'll be forced into a second hand one if its much more than the cbr But i like what i see so far.
Not confirmed but rumours suggest around £15k - the 990 Duke is £12,999
That means your getting old since you can’t handle 1000cc bikes
@@TheInfantry98ive been getting old since the day i was born. Kids called me the old man at school.
But, i can handle a thou, i just don't see the point. Riding it like a big girls blouse but still doing an absurd speed isn't my idea of fun. I'd rather feel like a hero ragging it at a much lower speed.
Well it is mine. So speak for yourself @@theant9821
This is the bike I've been waiting for. I own an sv650s and an sv1000s so it's pretty evident I love the twins lol. The sv650s is perfect for throwing around in twisties but I just wish it had a little bit more power so I got the sv1000s but the handling on that bike is sub par. With so many middle-weight twins in the market I've been waiting for a modern big twin sportbike that actually handles well and this is looking like my dream bike. The torque of a 1000 supersport but the gearing and power of a 600 is the perfect road bike in my opinion.
Here in New Zealand most of our twisty roads are tight, sharp, blind corners so very technical riding as opposed to long open sweepers with lots of vision, an I4 superbike just doesn't make sense here.
Bummer it only has 120 HP or was it 130? But not 200
Have an RC8R and RC390, this is the perfect middle brother, sign me up!
I want this bike soooooo bad! I'll have to probably sell all my other bikes to afford one but i think it's gonna be worth it. I don't need a 200+hp monster. And the supersport class has been lacking any innovation for years now. This ktm is exactly what I need in life. A cutting edge track weapon with usable power figures and hopefully a usable budget.
Such a cool bike, well done KTM.
I want one.
So excited to see this arrive. Was getting frustrated by KTM milking the Rc9C versions. But now they have put their money on the table. Fantastic…
I always said I was done with sport bikes since I found Hypers/Multi's/Superdukes with spicy twins but this.... is compelling.
I told myself I would only upgrade if Ktm released a large displacement street legal sport bike. I didn’t expect this so early or at all so cheers guys. Way to make my dreams come true! :)
Same, been rocking my little RC390 until then!
@@ErichWilhelmVW exactly! You must have known I was doing the same thing 😂(rc 390 as well)
Was holding out for the next-generation zx10r but dayum this bike for sure will be sold out everywhere!
*44Teeth* The premier gentlemen's club for enthusiasts!
Goes to show just how many people are watching this amazing channel and the amazing humor!!😁👍
At the local level I find the mix of next gen supersport bikes to make for interesting racing. *REALLY* hoping Yamaha addresses that bottom of the class torque with an R9 ASAP, I am damn near ready to buy one today.
Yeah wish Yamaha would hurry up. I'm gonna end up buying a mt09 just because that engine is so good. But imo they're kinda ugly I would buy the R9 today if they would release it.
My R6 doesn’t have a problem punching at bigger bikes on the track, you just have to learn to ride it.
Not another anemic parallel twin 😢. Why doesn’t it have the super duke v twin motor?
KTMs are very right about the focus on torque and comfort. As much as I love my new M1000XR and its top end, and even considering its shiftcam tech, the benchmark of a street bike performance in terms of engine for me remains gen3 1290 SDR. Once experienced that torque changes your perception forever.
He's not kidding about torque. I love my little 390 Duke because they squeezed the torque out of it. I can't wait to see this bike hit the market.
yeah i think the rumour said Yamaha making R9 (3cyl 890cc) in changing R6 for Supersport class was very logical after watching this.
whole new slew of competitors in this new segment. It's an exciting time to be a sports bike enthusiast.
isnt the max ccs for a 3cyl for ssp class is 765cc? if they have 890 they cant compete
@@jariszulqarnain4241 unless theres a rule change
This is great for the sportbike market
What a beautiful bike! I hope it sells well. The seat and back tail are awesome!
Put in a V4, please!
When are ktm going to bring out a V4?
What kind of price bracket are we expecting for this absolute weapon?
Gareth is always so honest about their bikes!
Very exciting to finally see another big RC street bike. I really hope they don't just slap a projector headlight on the front and call it a day.
Cheers, Nige.
KTM is cranking out banger after banger
Reliability should be the priority for KTM, as this is the main reason why past owners sell them and go to another brand, sort this out and the brand would be one of the top manufacturers
Be amazed if Yamaha now don’t finally follow suit ! R9 🙏
He kept the headlight design a secret for about 3 seconds. Must be intimidated by Statham
The RS660 is a great bike.. Very comfortable.. it just lacks power! If KTM can make this as comfortable as the RS660 with 20 bhp more. I think they will be onto a winner.
This category of sports bikes will be epic for the road.
I'm not really a fan of KTM style, but this looks spot on.
Very cool vid, great scoop. This could & should be a very saucy beast. Can't wait to see the final street version asap.
Dazzle Camouflage....Are they worried about U Boats ?
Looking forward to this.. sounds like a solid 600cc competitor
It make sens actually on the road you do not feel HP but torque when you ride.With Yamaha R9 on the cards KTM 990 RC will be nice option vs expensive V2 Panigale.
Nice! Press launch in about 9 months. Let's hope for some good weather!
great analysis from KTM, its even greater they gave you this - you've earnt it
Is Ducati the only manufacturer who can build a decent looking exhaust?
This, RS660, CBR600RR, V2, 675SR, ZX-6R, R9, or F3?
The usability focus for the road & a decent level of supersport performance does make this an attractive option if KTM can pull it off.
Pricing, quality fit & finish plus reliability will be critical.
On top of the calibration of electronic systems working for the bike where handling will be expected to be sharp.
We will be spoilt for choice in a year's time.
😂get your rat out😁
I took a picture of the bike and the QR did not bring me to a v4..... parallel twin? BARF
R is for race. Not comfort, ridability and wheelies.
I had hoped that the there will be two exhausts. One by the "seat unit" and one shot by the swing arm...I always had a weakness for this sort of exhaust placement since the 500cc era. However it never made it into the road legal versions. Possibly due to heat / noise issues?
Very excited for the development and launch of this bike! Fantastic insight on it :)
I have to admit that the wrap is pretty effective, it's really difficult to see what the lines of this bike look like. Looks like it will be a good looking bike.
Do I smell a supersport test coming
Now that we have this bike coming, the r9 and Panigale V2, I think it forces Suzuki to update the 750 and Kawi and Aprilia to raise the engine capacity of the Zx6 and Rs660 which makes sense as they both release lower cc bikes that don’t make sense as they are so slow close to their middle weight sport bike.
"Hopefully you love to wheelie." Sounds ominous! 😀
Dam nice looking bike Al. If my sportbike days weren’t over because of my old age and lack of flexibility I would be all over that. Its going to make a big impact if they keep the price in the mid teens. Street bike track bike hell yeah GoGo Ktm.
Will this be a road bike? Or just a circuit-only bike like RC8C?
Instant Sunday night happiness.
Really hope Dani is involved in this project
I hope not, that would be a nightmare for taller riders 😂
I'll have one if there's a non-orange option.
World War 1 Dazzle Camo 👌. Looking forward to the end product.
I agree with your sign off. Superbikes have become Hyperbikes and nobody much is buying them. It'll be interesting to see if there is a market for this. I hope there is.
It might be a stupid question but what is the point of this? Street racing? In which country? Bangladesh? Make a track bike, keep the bits and drop the price. Next.
Ps. Ah sorry I did not realise this is a homologation exercise.
Seeing this begs the question could a v4 be close behind as they're already admitting to running ssp in wsbk could they give us a panigale-esque v2 and v4 variation for wsbk with everything they've learned from the gp v4
Bike looks nice but the headlight not really, they already showed it in the other photos and its just a square like from 1995
Looked like everyone jumped the ship (R6) and joined the triumphs and stuff but at NorthWest200 the R6 smashed everyone
Really nicely framed video Nige. 👍🏻
Put the 1390 engine in this frame and then were talking 😎
A comfortable, torquey, ace handling sportsbike...should be good !
I'm loving the aero!! Gimme an under-slung swing-arm and let me live my motoGP dreams.
Thank you Jesus, and KTM, AND 44 Teeth. 😃👍
About time they released a proper cc sport bike