Paying for “extras” that are not really extras puts me off the whole brand tbh! It’s like a quick middle finger to the customer as you walk into the showroom… you’re kinda sure you saw them do it, but you second guess yourself.
Ended up buying the Gen3 Evo new after I owned the Gen 1 just before this one came out, 3k (Euro) dealer discount on top of 3k brand discount. Can't say I am regretting it when I compare it to this. Its probably better and more capable, but the one I have now already is really capable. Add to that the horrible front end in my view, I think I'm good for now :)
Soooo many people don't understand this... And it shows how psychologically twisted people are... KTM has the hardware in the bike because it's used for OTHER electronics, they simply make extra software to maximise what the hardware can do, it's in the exact same vein as how phone manufacturers make your phone "better" and do more with existing hardware via software updates... Just for reference honda charges 750 quid for their quick shifter on the CB1000R and 600 quid on the Africa Twin, is that Okay?? you're paying £750 for a £2 switch but because the switch wasn't already on the bike (but the plug in the wiring harness IS) it's all of a sudden okay? Come off it.. It's a dirt cheap bike for what it is and for a single grand you can make it the best value in the category...
@@Jaded-Wanderer Idk, at the end of the day you pay the same as with any other manufacturer, but you have the option to only get what you want and the process of unlocking them is also much less painful than 3hrs labour for honda to take apart your bike so they can connect that 1 plug under the tank..
@@Jaded-Wanderer KTM fucked up the marketing for it but the hate it's getting is entirely undeserved... I got a 2020 1290 GT, and I was very glad that when I wanted the track pack for adjustable wheelie control, slip control, launch control, throttle modes, I could simply ride to KTM, plug it in for 30 mins pay my 300 odd quid and ride away... I don't need Hill hold for 150 or the MSR for 180, already had the quick shifter on the bike, so at the end of the day didn't even need to pay for the full tech pack. I'd rather that than what BMW does, with the non-TE vs TE versions, where even if you change your mind in the future your bike is already locked in. I used to have a 2015 BMW S1000XR that didn't come with the factory DRL but came with everything else fully loaded. I wanted the DRL, asked BMW what's the cost... Well it's 280 for the DRL, 80 for software update to enable it, 160 for new switch gear because the button for it isn't there on mine, and that's "if we can do it still as it's an older bike" No such problems with a KTM with all the hardware already present....
Mandibular is indeed a word. According to the Oxford English Dictionary it is an adjective the definition of which is: of, belonging to, connected with, or forming part of a mandible. Excellent vocabulary Ms. Perkins.
better production values don't make better content. sorry, this is the most worn out talking point in the creator space. the magic of RUclips will always be lo-fi, low cost. most of the time it makes the content worse. the more money it costs them the more content they have to put out to stay above the red line and the more ads they have to push. it's as old as business itself; quantity vs quality.
@@oliverdurgen5953 we shot it ourselves, edited it ourselves and produced it ourselves. It was actually one of the cheaper videos we have made. But next time just set it to 360p 👍
@@FortyFourTeethNext video needs to shot on a handheld camcorder please, make sure the person recording has a shaky hand to make it feel more authentic.
I think while they are pretty good at doing videos, they are quite bad at doing youtube! Try watching a BBB after the fact. They are terrible titled, not good playlists, spread apart. They have good bones, but I think they need some help to really get out there!
I can also imagine their British accent doesn't do well in the US, it's hard to understand to many people. They don't make any effort in articulating their words better, so you really got to want it to hear it.
@@MotoRiderTubeAs a not english native speaker - You know, I have heard this argument before, but I don't get it. Americans are used to so much bad english. Sometimes when I see more "behind the scenes" youtube stuff, and they have foriegn people working, I am amazed just how bad the english is. People that live and work there, and they talk significantly worse than I do, and I never been to USA, and only UK as a kid where I only barely spoke english myself. So the argument that brittish is so hard to understand, I just don't get. It is really nothing more than a dialect honestly, and some of the slang is whats makes it extra funny. You might never have heard "gazeboed", but if you can't infer from context that it means "drunk" I think maybe it is the viewers IQ rather than the dialect that is the true problem! But then again, we are talking about americans here....
Thats a great video concept, one thing I always missed in the motorcycle space was a Doug Demuro style video, one where you just go over technologies and just interesting features on the bike. Basically showing all the stuff you usually don't immediately see in the first 30 minutes of riding the bike
Do you know what im glad you both have got the opportunity to have these for a long while! Micheal from MCN has got one for his long term test bike this year, it would be great if you three could go out for a ride together and chat bikes sausage together! Really shows that KTM are pushing this bike out to their target market, showing that they really confident in their 1390!
I could listen to these 2 blokes go on forever !! Bravo for always making me laugh whilst explaining the details of your objects ....Great review as always . CHEERS !!!!!!
Great review guys 👍🏻 I'm not a fan of the front light... It looks like 3rd stage labour with the afterbirth half way out. Lets be honest its not a good look!
I bought one (Evo+techpack) and its absolutely amazing on the roads! Still running it in but im already blown away by the suspension, handling, looks and ergonomics (at 6'3" noteworthy)
Its amazing i got one too 1.4k KMs on it now already run in with full akra evolution line + map. It pulls power wheelies in 3rd at 170-80 + kph its insane
I had a Ducati Scrambler and now have a Trident, on both bikes the tail tidy really helps the looks. The only downside is a load of spray up my back when it rains so I need to invent a clip-on mudguard like we use on pedal bikes aka ass-savers 🤣
Good call on the front end looks. Nothing else looks like this, which is good. I never bought a Honda Fireblade because in the pubs of Streatham and Croydon we all called it the Honda clitoris because every cent had one. Different is good. signed ; a happy gen 2 owner
“Everything was very much the same”. To be clear I love the styling of this bike but the stacked central headlight seems to be the new trend. Thinking of the new Suzuki 8S or other bikes of the naked variety at the moment.
First off the 1390 looks awesome in black. Can’t wait for the street reviews to come out. Btw you guys make a great team love the genuine friendship bickering.
What about a segment @fortyfourteeth On "cleaning your bike". In Australia, we have bugs galore - those headlights and all the little nooks and crannies woulkd be shit house to keep looking mint...
100% agree on the ridiculous on motorcycle factory paint options even worse when they release the same bike the following year with a new magical paint option I’m looking at you triumph
Did they fix the "wobbly tooth" turn signal indicator at least? I see the easy to accidentally and unknowingly activate "+" button (clutch side) and "C" button (brake side) are still there. Ug, it is still keyless.
Let's face it..the headlights are the biggest controversy...I personally don't mind the look...Im an old school 63 year old that still loves sportbikes and adrenaline...this one has power...and an upright riding stance for my old back...Sold!
A bike to ridden best at night so nobody sees it clearly 😄😄 Not one clean line. Sure the styling gets attention but not necessarily for the best reasons. Just for giggles it would be great to see one KTM not is orange or black and styled to match Ducati or MV.
After od'ing on MotoGP excitement last night I was absolutely hooning it on some late night A-roads last night on a KTM 790 Adventure thinking "I'd love to give this a proper go on a track with the right kinda bike"...to have the luxury / this bike!
i like the headlight, it doesnt really look like anything else on the market. Might look better if it were a little slimmer but hell, the fact you look at it and it doesnt even register as what it is makes it awesome.
Thanks for the preview! Quite right, that's a new petrol cap. And the wings on that thing make me giggle. I'm looking to roll out of the throttle on my 2022 EVO long before any winglets would be doing much. The only color option I care about is whether or not it has orange wheels. Neither of these do, so I'll pass. LOL. Looking forward to how you get on with this beast on the road. The last bike I had with variable valve timing was a 2006 Interceptor. It was supposed to be very seamless, and it was, frankly, just slightly noticeable and actually kind of annoying. My problem with the cammy shifty thingies is that they shift at a common RPM for the street, and if there's any sort of abruptness or fueling faffery, it introduces a torque jump just while you're feeling for traction, leaned over. Looking forward to your impressions.
I've had 5 1290 super dukes 2 gen1's.... 2 gen2's & 1 gen 3 so clearly I love the bike. I think the gen 1 is the best looking but the gen 3 a better road bike by far.....So I've tried the new gen4 & it's absolutely fab......But I won't buy one because of that frigging headlight...it's not really because of the looks or the fact it will be a nightmare to keep clean, but it's the finish & the quality. Run your hand around the back & the sharp plastic edges & quality are not what you expect on a premium bike & even worse it's the same unit on the 990 which is a great road but it kind of cheapens the 1390....Sorry Ktm but I'll be looking elsewhere.
Has a Gen 1 and it the wheels were never in line. Fun to start with then it just got tiring and I bought an MT10 which actually went around corners and was just as fast.
If it's even better than the 1290 , it won't fail to be a grin inducing riot! I'm always laughing to myself every time i ride my 1290, especially since getting the full Akra system fitted!!!
I have the gen 3 evo . So don’t know on the gen 4 . but the evo has quicker throttle action and with the tech pack . You have rear ride hight adjustment . I tent to leave the suspension settings in Auto as very quick to adjust to riding/road conditions . I’ve Only rode the standard suspension once so can’t really compare if it’s worth the upgrade .
the only thing I don't like about the v3.. is the engine breaking, its so strong, when you are in a long fast corner and let of the gas and on again... massive jolt, is it still the same on the v4? what is the EBC like? this or a bmw s1000rrM? you guys are great best on youtube!
Note about the wings on a naked bike. I have a 23 mt09sp ride streets and canyons..i installed the "aero" parts from Puig and i will definitely say they made a difference. The bike is much more planted all around..im sure it creates drag at higher speed but the stability is great
I really don’t understand how > displacement = lower emissions. As for charging extra for added software, I think the challenging thing to accept is that OEMs marginal cost of offering the uprated software to me is close to zero. When it’s hardware, you understand that there’s higher cost of offering uprated items so are more willing to pay, even if the OEM earns more of a margin on the premium bits. Don’t be surprised if in 10 years the Chinese manufacturers catch up and start offering the sun, moon and the stars, forcing the rest to step up.
I’ll never buy a Ktm for 2 reasons. They stuff Ewan and Charlie and now they are jumping on the pay per play on a motorcycle?? wtf. The adventure bikes have all the stuff fitted but they won’t let you use it unless you pay for it, nahhh
I loved my V4S but agree entirely about a super naked being useless if you want to actually go anywhere. I went back to an adventure bike because of it.
"Annoying" Understatement. I'm a "function" guy and I love the Duke from a function standpoint, but I still like walking into my garage seeing my bikes and thinking "Wow!" Which I do every time I see my Monster and my Harley sitting next to each other. Neither are ORANGE. Not a fan of the mandibles either.
My takeaway -satsuma powered rocket. Thunder Punk with mandibles(cos play).Tech pack 1k joke /sick.Great chat chaps.PS nothing to do with the review but MM93 up to his old tricks?
went out on my gen3 yesterday,wont be upgrading,its not like ive ever thought to myself 'you know what,i could with some more power and torque!'apart from the headlight and wings its identical,and 99% of current owners cant outride the damn things as it is!saying that,if i didnt have a bike,i would buy it.
Totally agree, I was out on mine a few weeks ago and through the same thing but more. I’ve got the standard version but have upgraded the suspension and more and feel the bike is 99% dialed in. How could I want more It’s perfect right now. Maybe in a year or two when the bike starts to get dated.
@@RobertKehl thing is,these manufacturers have got to find new ways to get into your wallet.always being told last years offering is dogshit now,and you need the new one which is 15% more likely to make knickers come down!
I regret selling my gen 1.. my gen 3 would shake and shutter around 120 mph shifting when i was on it. It was like it was just too much power for tubular frame.. maybe that power needs a monococ frame
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What do we rekon then? Hot? or Not? ..... 👇
Paying for “extras” that are not really extras puts me off the whole brand tbh!
It’s like a quick middle finger to the customer as you walk into the showroom… you’re kinda sure you saw them do it, but you second guess yourself.
Always vote "not".. Keep their self esteem in check! ;)
It’s nice but not 20k nice
Big steaming pile of not. It’s hideous and for get paying for the “extras” the price of them is fucking ridiculous.
Ended up buying the Gen3 Evo new after I owned the Gen 1 just before this one came out, 3k (Euro) dealer discount on top of 3k brand discount. Can't say I am regretting it when I compare it to this. Its probably better and more capable, but the one I have now already is really capable. Add to that the horrible front end in my view, I think I'm good for now :)
This "Software" costing an extra grand bollox is fuckin madness
Soooo many people don't understand this... And it shows how psychologically twisted people are... KTM has the hardware in the bike because it's used for OTHER electronics, they simply make extra software to maximise what the hardware can do, it's in the exact same vein as how phone manufacturers make your phone "better" and do more with existing hardware via software updates...
Just for reference honda charges 750 quid for their quick shifter on the CB1000R and 600 quid on the Africa Twin, is that Okay?? you're paying £750 for a £2 switch but because the switch wasn't already on the bike (but the plug in the wiring harness IS) it's all of a sudden okay?
Come off it.. It's a dirt cheap bike for what it is and for a single grand you can make it the best value in the category...
@@AntaresSQ01 I understand it and still hate it.
@@Jaded-Wanderer Idk, at the end of the day you pay the same as with any other manufacturer, but you have the option to only get what you want and the process of unlocking them is also much less painful than 3hrs labour for honda to take apart your bike so they can connect that 1 plug under the tank..
@@AntaresSQ01 All good points, but you know why people don't like it.
@@Jaded-Wanderer KTM fucked up the marketing for it but the hate it's getting is entirely undeserved... I got a 2020 1290 GT, and I was very glad that when I wanted the track pack for adjustable wheelie control, slip control, launch control, throttle modes, I could simply ride to KTM, plug it in for 30 mins pay my 300 odd quid and ride away... I don't need Hill hold for 150 or the MSR for 180, already had the quick shifter on the bike, so at the end of the day didn't even need to pay for the full tech pack. I'd rather that than what BMW does, with the non-TE vs TE versions, where even if you change your mind in the future your bike is already locked in. I used to have a 2015 BMW S1000XR that didn't come with the factory DRL but came with everything else fully loaded. I wanted the DRL, asked BMW what's the cost... Well it's 280 for the DRL, 80 for software update to enable it, 160 for new switch gear because the button for it isn't there on mine, and that's "if we can do it still as it's an older bike" No such problems with a KTM with all the hardware already present....
The headlight reminds me of "Predator" when it takes it's helmet off for the first time! "ugly mother fu.......!"
Your mother's name is Predator?
It does look like the Predator without its helmet, but in a good way.
Na after the “incident” the courts forced her to label her self that.
@@pistonburner6448learn some English.. it'll help
"Ok, pussy face, It's your move" --- I love the headlight!
Mandibular is indeed a word. According to the Oxford English Dictionary it is an adjective the definition of which is: of, belonging to, connected with, or forming part of a mandible. Excellent vocabulary Ms. Perkins.
It is below the Maxilla
The 44T video and editing has gone up a notch or 2 well done the channel is on the up for sure.
better production values don't make better content. sorry, this is the most worn out talking point in the creator space.
the magic of RUclips will always be lo-fi, low cost.
most of the time it makes the content worse. the more money it costs them the more content they have to put out to stay above the red line and the more ads they have to push. it's as old as business itself; quantity vs quality.
@@oliverdurgen5953 well,thats brought the mood down hasnt it.🤦♂️
@@oliverdurgen5953 we shot it ourselves, edited it ourselves and produced it ourselves. It was actually one of the cheaper videos we have made. But next time just set it to 360p 👍
@@FortyFourTeethNext video needs to shot on a handheld camcorder please, make sure the person recording has a shaky hand to make it feel more authentic.
@@oliverdurgen5953 With a name like Oliver, shouldn’t you be down the towpath by Putney Bridge, giving head to elderly homosexuals?
How is this channel not blown up yet.. never bad content and hell I am a car guy I watch it for these two plonkers
I think while they are pretty good at doing videos, they are quite bad at doing youtube!
Try watching a BBB after the fact. They are terrible titled, not good playlists, spread apart.
They have good bones, but I think they need some help to really get out there!
I can also imagine their British accent doesn't do well in the US, it's hard to understand to many people. They don't make any effort in articulating their words better, so you really got to want it to hear it.
@@MotoRiderTubeAs a not english native speaker - You know, I have heard this argument before, but I don't get it.
Americans are used to so much bad english. Sometimes when I see more "behind the scenes" youtube stuff, and they have foriegn people working, I am amazed just how bad the english is. People that live and work there, and they talk significantly worse than I do, and I never been to USA, and only UK as a kid where I only barely spoke english myself.
So the argument that brittish is so hard to understand, I just don't get. It is really nothing more than a dialect honestly, and some of the slang is whats makes it extra funny.
You might never have heard "gazeboed", but if you can't infer from context that it means "drunk" I think maybe it is the viewers IQ rather than the dialect that is the true problem!
But then again, we are talking about americans here....
@@MotoRiderTubeI can understand them fine and I’m not even a native speaker. Is the US base really this stupid?
The head light does infact automatically turn when you turn the bars since its attached to the forks. pretty cutting edge tech
Hahaa
Too bad when I turn left I go right.
Thats a great video concept, one thing I always missed in the motorcycle space was a Doug Demuro style video, one where you just go over technologies and just interesting features on the bike. Basically showing all the stuff you usually don't immediately see in the first 30 minutes of riding the bike
Paying for a Quick shifter is ridiculous
Everything about KTMs is ridiculous at this point tbh. Will never fucking buy another one pos.
Then don't take it :)
If it was standard you’d still be paying for it! 🤦🏻
yeah, just paying for anything is ridiculous... im the mothafucking king of the known world and i should get everything for free, all included...yeah?
@@oliverdurgen5953you completely missed the point
Do you know what im glad you both have got the opportunity to have these for a long while!
Micheal from MCN has got one for his long term test bike this year, it would be great if you three could go out for a ride together and chat bikes sausage together!
Really shows that KTM are pushing this bike out to their target market, showing that they really confident in their 1390!
I could listen to these 2 blokes go on forever !! Bravo for always making me laugh whilst explaining the details of your objects ....Great review as always . CHEERS !!!!!!
Like the new ‘Aesthetic’ of this format of video guys. No faff, just two guys talking about a bike.
I love the frequently uploads. Looks like its working out with your new videographer. Keep up the good work
We shot it ourselves
Great review guys 👍🏻
I'm not a fan of the front light...
It looks like 3rd stage labour with the afterbirth half way out.
Lets be honest its not a good look!
You mean like a prolapsed vag ?
Oh my! This white background with just you and the bike, feels like you're in my head, like I am thinking.
the front headlight looks 100 times better and most of all the angle of it, the bike looks proportionate and complete....KTM did a great job
Chris working his ol dead pixels magic on the intro. 👍
This is a bike I would never ride, but I would watch any 44 video.
I bought one (Evo+techpack) and its absolutely amazing on the roads! Still running it in but im already blown away by the suspension, handling, looks and ergonomics (at 6'3" noteworthy)
Its amazing i got one too 1.4k KMs on it now already run in with full akra evolution line + map. It pulls power wheelies in 3rd at 170-80 + kph its insane
@@ewyna4380 I feel your joy!!! Passing the 1k this weekend, service scheduled right after. Happy riding on one or both wheels :D
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I'm digging the floating in white space review!
I had a Ducati Scrambler and now have a Trident, on both bikes the tail tidy really helps the looks. The only downside is a load of spray up my back when it rains so I need to invent a clip-on mudguard like we use on pedal bikes aka ass-savers 🤣
Good call on the front end looks. Nothing else looks like this, which is good. I never bought a Honda Fireblade because in the pubs of Streatham and Croydon we all called it the Honda clitoris because every cent had one. Different is good. signed ; a happy gen 2 owner
I have a chest infection and Mandibular set me off coughing and choking for about 5 minutes but I enjoyed every minute of it 😂
“Everything was very much the same”. To be clear I love the styling of this bike but the stacked central headlight seems to be the new trend. Thinking of the new Suzuki 8S or other bikes of the naked variety at the moment.
Still not selling my mk1 superduke 990, still an absolute riot on the road and still looks modern
Just watched Alpine BBB!
44 Teeth rock.
Better in every way than previous model minus the headlight
First off the 1390 looks awesome in black. Can’t wait for the street reviews to come out. Btw you guys make a great team love the genuine friendship bickering.
I agree about the limited colour range - do a version in Triple Black and I'll seriously look at it for the next bike.
That intro is epic I deffo want one now
I love your content!! keep it up
Great vid as always and awesome bike, I can’t wait to see you on the UK roads. Good to see Kenny Everett let you use his studio again!
Best entertainment bar none!
And it’s hot. Love the headlight! 👍🏻
I’m going to shock you (Alan Partridge voice) … I really like the swing arm mounted number plates
Absolutely hideous haha
The 'orange' puts me off buying one.
Top quality video guys, appreciate the step-up in b-roll!
What about a segment @fortyfourteeth On "cleaning your bike". In Australia, we have bugs galore - those headlights and all the little nooks and crannies woulkd be shit house to keep looking mint...
100% agree on the ridiculous on motorcycle factory paint options even worse when they release the same bike the following year with a new magical paint option I’m looking at you triumph
What I like about the lights is that they are proper low !
I just hate when the front light is higher than the gas tank .
I agree with the colour point, orange is a long way off my favourite 🤷♂️. Still an awesome bike though 😊
Did they fix the "wobbly tooth" turn signal indicator at least? I see the easy to accidentally and unknowingly activate "+" button (clutch side) and "C" button (brake side) are still there.
Ug, it is still keyless.
Let's face it..the headlights are the biggest controversy...I personally don't mind the look...Im an old school 63 year old that still loves sportbikes and adrenaline...this one has power...and an upright riding stance for my old back...Sold!
Good point regarding pillion seats, hate hearing the tapping scratching noises going on behind me
A bike to ridden best at night so nobody sees it clearly 😄😄 Not one clean line. Sure the styling gets attention but not necessarily for the best reasons. Just for giggles it would be great to see one KTM not is orange or black and styled to match Ducati or MV.
Excellent review gents!
Love the format
Excellent intro ! The front of the bike reminds me of the Predator movie.😮
After od'ing on MotoGP excitement last night I was absolutely hooning it on some late night A-roads last night on a KTM 790 Adventure thinking "I'd love to give this a proper go on a track with the right kinda bike"...to have the luxury / this bike!
mandibular is indeed a word, great job sir
i like the headlight, it doesnt really look like anything else on the market. Might look better if it were a little slimmer but hell, the fact you look at it and it doesnt even register as what it is makes it awesome.
Thanks for the preview! Quite right, that's a new petrol cap. And the wings on that thing make me giggle. I'm looking to roll out of the throttle on my 2022 EVO long before any winglets would be doing much. The only color option I care about is whether or not it has orange wheels. Neither of these do, so I'll pass. LOL.
Looking forward to how you get on with this beast on the road. The last bike I had with variable valve timing was a 2006 Interceptor. It was supposed to be very seamless, and it was, frankly, just slightly noticeable and actually kind of annoying. My problem with the cammy shifty thingies is that they shift at a common RPM for the street, and if there's any sort of abruptness or fueling faffery, it introduces a torque jump just while you're feeling for traction, leaned over. Looking forward to your impressions.
I've had 5 1290 super dukes 2 gen1's.... 2 gen2's & 1 gen 3 so clearly I love the bike. I think the gen 1 is the best looking but the gen 3 a better road bike by far.....So I've tried the new gen4 & it's absolutely fab......But I won't buy one because of that frigging headlight...it's not really because of the looks or the fact it will be a nightmare to keep clean, but it's the finish & the quality. Run your hand around the back & the sharp plastic edges & quality are not what you expect on a premium bike & even worse it's the same unit on the 990 which is a great road but it kind of cheapens the 1390....Sorry Ktm but I'll be looking elsewhere.
Cleaning bugs out of that headlight will suck
6:17 well I found my fav word of the year "Mandibula"
Has a Gen 1 and it the wheels were never in line. Fun to start with then it just got tiring and I bought an MT10 which actually went around corners and was just as fast.
Could those new Power GP's be one the reasons why the bike handles so much better? Maybe Bridgestone doesnt want you talking about that👀
The front light treatment looks like The Predator
Not sure if it's the background or not but Al looking like jaundice is setting in!
It's the background and he has a tan.
Let's see super naked end of the year track and hard road focused event. Hope you guys can get bikes available from the major competitors.
You know the stunning looks of MV Brutale. This is like that.. except every single detail
If it's even better than the 1290 , it won't fail to be a grin inducing riot! I'm always laughing to myself every time i ride my 1290, especially since getting the full Akra system fitted!!!
Bought a 2023 1290 RR for the same price than this. In my opinion the better choice
I have the gen 3 evo . So don’t know on the gen 4 . but the evo has quicker throttle action and with the tech pack . You have rear ride hight adjustment .
I tent to leave the suspension settings in Auto as very quick to adjust to riding/road conditions . I’ve Only rode the standard suspension once so can’t really compare if it’s worth the upgrade .
the new dukes are like that girl at the bar with a 10/10 body but a 2/10 face thanks to the new headlight -
To bad we didn't see each other riding these in Almeria 😁👌
Why!?? Why the new headlight?! Ugh man.
the only thing I don't like about the v3.. is the engine breaking, its so strong, when you are in a long fast corner and let of the gas and on again... massive jolt, is it still the same on the v4? what is the EBC like? this or a bmw s1000rrM? you guys are great best on youtube!
Note about the wings on a naked bike. I have a 23 mt09sp ride streets and canyons..i installed the "aero" parts from Puig and i will definitely say they made a difference. The bike is much more planted all around..im sure it creates drag at higher speed but the stability is great
Surely the next step is a KTM V4? They do make a very good one.
The look in black is absolutely stunning, suck a baddass bike, i really want to buy it but God damn the stories i hear about KTM reliability😮💨
Great work lads, I like weird bikes but the blinker bar in front of the bars makes look like some 80s yamaha xt farmbike , it destroys the tough look
Very Hot ! I like the look of it, the headlamp looks cool, can't wait for your proper review !
I can't wait to see a new KTM 1390 Duke GT... Do you happen to have any news if that's going to happen soon?
I really don’t understand how > displacement = lower emissions.
As for charging extra for added software, I think the challenging thing to accept is that OEMs marginal cost of offering the uprated software to me is close to zero. When it’s hardware, you understand that there’s higher cost of offering uprated items so are more willing to pay, even if the OEM earns more of a margin on the premium bits.
Don’t be surprised if in 10 years the Chinese manufacturers catch up and start offering the sun, moon and the stars, forcing the rest to step up.
1290 gen 3 all day baby . Full carbon and Akra of course .
I’ll never buy a Ktm for 2 reasons. They stuff Ewan and Charlie and now they are jumping on the pay per play on a motorcycle?? wtf. The adventure bikes have all the stuff fitted but they won’t let you use it unless you pay for it, nahhh
I loved my V4S but agree entirely about a super naked being useless if you want to actually go anywhere. I went back to an adventure bike because of it.
Evo or non-Evo? Not sure whether the electronic suspension is worth the extra $?
£20k for a motor bike ! I'm getting old............
Can’t wait to see the deep dive into this one.
"Annoying" Understatement. I'm a "function" guy and I love the Duke from a function standpoint, but I still like walking into my garage seeing my bikes and thinking "Wow!" Which I do every time I see my Monster and my Harley sitting next to each other. Neither are ORANGE. Not a fan of the mandibles either.
That headlight looks like a proper insect, dead fly trap
Would genuinely like it if ktm had some more colorways
Totally agree about the limited color schemes. I HATE orange. An all black scheme? Sign me up.
Aren’t you a boring person 🥱
Such a polished video . KTM sponsored by any chance 😂
I like the look of the bike ... except the headlight
I actually like the new front light design, but I'd get the running lights changed from white to pink 😅
My takeaway -satsuma powered rocket. Thunder Punk with mandibles(cos play).Tech pack 1k joke /sick.Great chat chaps.PS nothing to do with the review but MM93 up to his old tricks?
Do a comparison of this bike and a street fighter v4
Kinda looks like a fancy mounting bracket for a missing headlight.
Hotter than the earth's core 🔥🔥🔥
KTM = keeps taking money.
Ugly bikes, that are about as reliable as that one crackhead friend everyone has.
"the zoom zoom" LOVE IT
went out on my gen3 yesterday,wont be upgrading,its not like ive ever thought to myself 'you know what,i could with some more power and torque!'apart from the headlight and wings its identical,and 99% of current owners cant outride the damn things as it is!saying that,if i didnt have a bike,i would buy it.
Totally agree, I was out on mine a few weeks ago and through the same thing but more. I’ve got the standard version but have upgraded the suspension and more and feel the bike is 99% dialed in. How could I want more It’s perfect right now. Maybe in a year or two when the bike starts to get dated.
@@RobertKehl thing is,these manufacturers have got to find new ways to get into your wallet.always being told last years offering is dogshit now,and you need the new one which is 15% more likely to make knickers come down!
Side by side comparison with the new 990 please. Any info on the 2025 990 Evo R edition greatly appreciated.
Not! Maybe nice for Instagrama gen of buyers, but would NEVER see me near one alive. V2 was the the sweet spot , regarding design.
Anyone else wanna see one of these with RC8R style clip ons and top half of the fairing like the old Duc 900ss CR
Maybe soon we will have smaller CC boosted motors
I regret selling my gen 1.. my gen 3 would shake and shutter around 120 mph shifting when i was on it. It was like it was just too much power for tubular frame.. maybe that power needs a monococ frame
Whew, that headlight.