I Finally Watched The Moro Arc And It Blew Me Away

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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo Месяц назад +1450

    I haven't watched this reaction but based on the comments I want to be clear. My videos are BOTH a summary and a soft-review. If you're looking for a straight summary with every single detail I'm not the guy for it because I don't seek to entirely replace the source material. My hope is that people can come to their own opinions and seek out the source material to learn more because I want the series to continue to grow as a manga as well. At the very least I hope you were able to enjoy it even if wasn't what you expected. Good luck with the content grind 💪💪💪

    • @TSO_Sage
      @TSO_Sage  Месяц назад +594

      Yeah spoilers: EYEEEE fw the reaction heavy 😂💯 so to catch you up, my chat & comments in my other manga vids was saying watch yours. I have no idea why once we started they switched up.
      Even near the end & post recording, I was like “chat y’all can’t suggest something & dunk on it the whole time for not including every miniscule detail” and tbh… we both know they was not tryna watch a 2-4hr reaction 💀 btw you one of the goats bro much love!! And my community thinks rage is a good transformation trust me you’re fine lmaoo

    • @rd1890
      @rd1890 Месяц назад +92

      Aye, no hate to u Carthu, I defin understand your way of going over manga stuff. But Sage, I agree. It was weird how alot of em wanted Carthu but then started dissin it, like HUH? Didn't even know alot of them wanted Carthu, I thought it was a few or roughly divided

    • @KidBuuKev
      @KidBuuKev Месяц назад +38

      hi carthu

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo Месяц назад +92

      @@KidBuuKev yo :)

    • @TheCoroboCorner
      @TheCoroboCorner Месяц назад +1

      how's it going carthu

  • @silly_pigeon
    @silly_pigeon Месяц назад +492

    I meannn Vegeta doesnt really misread his opponents, he just overestimates himself constantly lmao

    • @animationstudiosa
      @animationstudiosa Месяц назад +10

      Yea💀💀

    • @cajozack
      @cajozack Месяц назад +3

      This

    • @castform7
      @castform7 Месяц назад +38

      Don't those two things go hand in hand. Like with Cell, him thinking he's strong enough to beat his Perfect form inherently coincides with misreading how much above him Cell was.
      Edit: I've seen most of the replies counteract my point and they're pretty fair. The two ideas do feel mutually exclusive and I may have chosen the wrong candidate of Perfect Cell. What I *do* think still holds up is that Piccolo saying "never" is still a massive stretch with my new point being his fight against 18. In this situation, he has gotten confirmation from Trunks that these are the 2 people that kill him in the future and Vegeta, still riding the high of being a Super Saiyan, doesn't even factor the Android's power as something he should be wary of. And then there's also his first fight with Goku but I won't even count that since Piccolo wasn't there for that but was there watching him getting washed by 18. Either way you spin it, the idea of Vegeta *never* misreading his opponent is just a dumb idea when it comes to Piccolo or the narrative as a whole. At least in my opinion.

    • @davesenatus5566
      @davesenatus5566 Месяц назад +29

      @@castform7 Technically though he was strong enough to destroy Cell with that blast. It was an excellent move for him to bait Cell into taking the full force of the attack and would have worked if Cell didn't block/dodge last second.

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 Месяц назад +24

      @@castform7 They don't go hand in hand as you could properly read your opponents' power and not realize that you aren't that strong. The thing wrong with this comment is that Vegeta has done both. He overestimated his own power on Earth and on Namek, and then started to consistently underestimate his opponents' power, such as misreading Cell's actual full power. Even if you argue that the power presented at the time wasn't a misread, he still DID misread his power. Cell later powered up in the tournament, revealing he was suppressed even upon the ascension into his Perfect Form. Most people will forget that small piece of dialogue because it was against SSJ2 Gohan who was entirely unfazed by the powerup. But everyone else was surprised, including Vegeta.

  • @VileHusk
    @VileHusk Месяц назад +179

    My favorite arc personally, it has everything I love about the Z arcs all in one, it’s such a fan service saga imo

    • @animationstudiosa
      @animationstudiosa Месяц назад +2

      Yea😂

    • @joseurbina3835
      @joseurbina3835 Месяц назад +34

      It's more like going back to Basics of the Z Arcs, not Fan-Service (that's "Super Dragon Ball Heroes" thing)

    • @earthtoastro8349
      @earthtoastro8349 Месяц назад +17

      Definitely agree. The mercy of Goku both cries cell saga and freeza saga respectively as well as for Vegeta mirroring himself on namek. Instead of killing innocents he's saving lives. Gohan getting more training in the box before the super hero fight, getting the actual Yardrat appearances, Yamcha getting his first good action panels since God knows how long.
      This arc DELIVERSSSSSS

    • @youssafemonster
      @youssafemonster Месяц назад

      fan service saga how

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Месяц назад +3

      ​Going back to Namek, going back to Yardrat, Vegeta wearing a Goku alternate outfit, Moro essentially being Cell once he arrives on earth, Goku does the Gohan SSJ 2 with Ultra Instinct perfected, gives Moro a senzu bean before showing he's more powerful anyway. Side characters fighting the minions without being able to fight the main baddie. ​@@youssafemonster

  • @usman16k
    @usman16k Месяц назад +72

    Carthus missed out the explanation for Goku's susanoo/ki avatar:
    When Vegeta arrives on Yardrat, the Yardraxians demonstrate instant transmission, cloning (without loss of power, not the multi form) and *gigantification*.
    It is then specified that perfect spirit (ki) control, which can be interpreted as a perfect link between mind and body, can allow for one to hone such techniques.
    Ultra Instinct is by nature the perfect link between mind and body, perfect spirit/ki control. Goku creating a ki avatar out of desperation is because his mind and his body both instinctively willed for Moro to be held down. Not to mention that Goku may have knowledge of the technique from his time on Yardrat.

    • @nicholas2153
      @nicholas2153 Месяц назад +4

      The thing about Ki in general is it has very little limitations and is extraordinarily flexible. Just the amount of Ki you have and your creativity, It's why Dragon Fist (despite not being canon) is even possible. I'd imagine with UI you have plenty of Ki to do something like this.

  • @AlexSummary
    @AlexSummary Месяц назад +151

    You watching Justin’s Granolah arc has my vote.

    • @MarioBusters
      @MarioBusters Месяц назад +13

      have my vote too

    • @omarabdelnasser5455
      @omarabdelnasser5455 Месяц назад +5

      @@MarioBusters has my vote Justin den all the way

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Месяц назад

      Justins Den is great. But the person he shares responsibilities with is a chore to listen to. The second half of the TOP video is unlistenable

    • @andrewhillary-ounegbu9345
      @andrewhillary-ounegbu9345 Месяц назад +1

      My vote as well

  • @PrinxeGaming_
    @PrinxeGaming_ Месяц назад +79

    to answer the Moro stuff with the dragon balls, both the scouters and dragon radar picked up the dragon balls bc of the rare energy they were emitting so Moro being able to sense the dragon balls after not only eating the planet’s energy but also Kakarot and Vegeta’s energy makes sense especially since earlier in the manga he said he couldn’t do certain magic bc he was too old

    • @ryern6350
      @ryern6350 Месяц назад +3

      Scouters actually couldn't pick up the dragon balls, that was a whole plot point in the namek arc

    • @hexit7777
      @hexit7777 Месяц назад +5

      @@ryern6350those were old scouters…

    • @nicholas2153
      @nicholas2153 Месяц назад +1

      Well, not the Scouters they have only ever been used to detect KI, not the unique energy that comes from the Dragon Ball. That's why Freeza was using the Scouter to track the Namekians in the Namek arc and not the Dragon Balls themselves. However, there is some plausibility in thinking that Moro, a being very proficient in magic could detect them since they are magical in nature.

  • @STGAoe
    @STGAoe Месяц назад +296

    Carthu also nitpicked how Goku never learned Forced Spirit Fission back then but Goku literally says when he shows up on Earth during the Android Arc that he only had time to learn one thing and the Moro arc also states that Goku struggled to learn Instant Transmission so Carthu kinda just ignored all of that to make up a nitpick

    • @bruhminate7904
      @bruhminate7904 Месяц назад +22

      He could have gone back to Yardrat during the 3 years of training for the androids.

    • @larrylobster9174
      @larrylobster9174 Месяц назад +35

      @@bruhminate7904could he even sense them

    • @crispychicken471
      @crispychicken471 Месяц назад +3

      @@bruhminate7904or years after that

    • @theemeraldninja5038
      @theemeraldninja5038 Месяц назад +43

      ​@larrylobster9174 No he couldn't. They were too far away. There's a reason why Goku teleported to King Kai before Namek

    • @STGAoe
      @STGAoe Месяц назад +55

      @@bruhminate7904 Ah yes…and how would he have done that when he would have no clue where Yardrat was? He got back home with the Ginyu ship but odds are he wouldn’t know how to fly it back to Yardrat PLUS the Moro Arc even makes it clear its too far away to sense.
      Plus, why would he have gone back? He had no use for any of the techniques. Carthu brought up “why didn’t he learn it when he had faced so many opponents who can fuse” when Goku never fought anyone who could fuse by that point. It isn’t until the Buu arc where fusion became a major thing (Cell’s Fusion with the Androids was biological so that doesn’t count) and after that the world was at peace until Beerus showed up. So its a weird nitpick to wonder why Goku never went back when he never would have thought it was necessary nor would have had the time to do so since it took him a year to just learn the BASICS

  • @kingcedman7762
    @kingcedman7762 Месяц назад +113

    One thing i wish Carthu showed was Whis blocking Moro's attack with one finger

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 Месяц назад +46

    32:30 Carthu skipped the fact that Saganbo DEMANDED that extra power from Moro, and Moro sure did give it to him.
    I think you would have liked to know that detail.

    • @Stratilex
      @Stratilex Месяц назад +1

      i read the manga and forgot about that lol

  • @O0Ga.B00ogA._
    @O0Ga.B00ogA._ Месяц назад +114

    I think the Justin’s Den video is a bit more comprehensive with more details about the arc & I hope you use that one for granola, but the carthu video is still fire.

    • @O0Ga.B00ogA._
      @O0Ga.B00ogA._ Месяц назад +6

      Also maybe a runback with the Justin's Den Moro vid either off stream or sometime in the future (maybe twitch stream exclusive content) could be fun

    • @fkeyae4217
      @fkeyae4217 Месяц назад +10

      I feel like Justin’s dens videos are better but Carthu’s cool

    • @O0Ga.B00ogA._
      @O0Ga.B00ogA._ Месяц назад +3

      @@fkeyae4217 I agree. I don’t get the Carthu hate in the comments.

    • @alicepbg2042
      @alicepbg2042 Месяц назад

      @@O0Ga.B00ogA._ people just hating

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho Месяц назад +2

      ​@AM.hero_ because he literally made up a nitpick, where he said why goku didn't learn spirit to beat cell and majin when goku literally had Said that he only time to learn one technique and he struggled learning instant transmission.
      No one's a hater so don't be an idiot

  • @huntercaptain9411
    @huntercaptain9411 Месяц назад +53

    For the Granolah arc, you should definitely watch Justin's Den video over Carthu Dojo's video. I love Carthu's content, but Justin Den's version is an overall better video for people who haven't read the manga.

    • @acethealien4863
      @acethealien4863 Месяц назад +5

      My issue with Carthu is that he often has some eye rolling takes where its clear he doesnt know much of the lore.

  • @JRPOGM
    @JRPOGM Месяц назад +68

    We might gotta run this arc back, this video skipped so much context and filled in personal opinions over it. Moro Arc movie is the way

    • @rd1890
      @rd1890 Месяц назад +5

      Or Justin Den

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Месяц назад +1

      What did he skip?

    • @nickalaslindsay7800
      @nickalaslindsay7800 Месяц назад +5

      @@orbboom6119 one videos is 36 min and the other is 1:41:11 so tell what do u think got skip

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Месяц назад

      @@nickalaslindsay7800 yeah but what exactly bro
      I guess he skipped the earthling fights but those were pretty mid ngl

    • @macdaddysauce5785
      @macdaddysauce5785 Месяц назад +2

      @@orbboom6119it’s mid but it’s good that the OG z fighters are back and gave them a little shine

  • @tdsm99
    @tdsm99 Месяц назад +141

    I'll be on stream for the granolah but I just gotta say you gotta watch Justin's dens vid on it. Carthu doesn't really do a comprehensive vid like Justin did for both Moro and granolah

    • @firechargeogname
      @firechargeogname Месяц назад +1

      I wish I could be on stream but I can't because I have to delete stuff I don't want to delete stuff

    • @cantu7214
      @cantu7214 Месяц назад +11

      plus carthu is insufferable with his opinions that nobody asks for

    • @Zamamasu
      @Zamamasu Месяц назад +4

      @@cantu7214 I like him. I don't mind the opinions

    • @cantu7214
      @cantu7214 Месяц назад

      @@Zamamasu thats fine but I can almost guarantee that not a single person clicked on his video to hear his opinions. They clicked for the Moro arc story 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @Zamamasu
      @Zamamasu Месяц назад +4

      ​@@cantu7214 I know. Some people like longer videos solely talking about X, Y and Z without further input but I like videos where the creator puts their own input in for comedy or saying what they think.

  • @STGAoe
    @STGAoe Месяц назад +54

    If you’re going to watch the Granola arc video you should use Justin’s Den since he at least gets into the more intricate details of the plot too. Carthu kinda just runs through it while also putting in his own personal biases which is kinda meh

    • @Zamamasu
      @Zamamasu Месяц назад +3

      I don't mind Carthu. I like his opinions but I wouldn't call them biases just cause you don't like it. Carthu's good for short, condensed stuff which I find easier to watch since I'm more likely to keep watching whereas longer videos I just zone out and start playing games or drawing while it plays meaning I don't focus on it. But then Justin goes into way more detail so he can cover it. I still don't like the Super manga but I watch videos on it because I like DB and want to see what it's like. To me, Super just feels like fan-serviced fanfiction.

    • @sugondeez1708
      @sugondeez1708 15 дней назад

      Plus the less details are in the video the more incentive there is to fucking read it for yourself. Besides, he would probably feel bad about posting a manga artists hard work that took literal months and just post it for FREE, so he minimises the amount of panels and story he covers, unlike justins den who has basically nullified toriyama and Toyotaros combined decades of work.

  • @theoverseer1775
    @theoverseer1775 Месяц назад +12

    20:56 Carthu is actually wrong here. The Ginyu Force was on Yardrat before Freeza called them to Namek. If you recall, Goku escaped with Ginyu's ship by just clicking the "launch" button and having him sent to the first location inputted in the pod. This was because the Ginyu Force was supposed to conquer Yardrat before being called to Namek, and were going to go back once they were done with the dragon balls.

    • @Ninox32tgretwh
      @Ninox32tgretwh 17 дней назад +2

      Yep, and even if you don't remember about the Ginyu's ship stuff, the sentence that appears in the manga panel is very easy to understand if you know the basic context of the story lol I don't know how Carthu got that wrong... It's like if Granolah said that the Saiyans caused quite a stir on his planet before Frieza killed them, and then thinking that he's referring that Frieza fought the Saiyans on Cereal (granolah's planet)... Now i'm not saying it's impossible to think that, but i'm saying is very dumb to think that if you KNOW the context of the stories lol

  • @jamararrington4426
    @jamararrington4426 Месяц назад +14

    The teleportation the Yardratians use needs to have ki signatures to move to, while the kais and there attendants can go where they want. I think that line might have been a bad translation, or someone forgot how it works, kinda like how Resurrection F forgot Shenron can make 3 wishes, but he left out after 2. It's supposed to be 2 wishes if he resurrects a large group of people

  • @jupiteralt
    @jupiteralt Месяц назад +8

    Sages hate for Suprime Kai and his celebration at thinking he was dead is the funniest shit 😭😂

  • @jaquanbrown413
    @jaquanbrown413 Месяц назад +20

    I prefer the granola arc despite the weird power scaling granola was putting in work lol.

    • @Jake42O
      @Jake42O 17 дней назад

      Gas is an ass character tho

  • @theblacknaruto
    @theblacknaruto Месяц назад +13

    To explain why there are so many parallels to past arcs in Dragonball, Moro is meant to be a representation of all prior villains in one amalgamation. Its meant to further Goku's character and reinforce his principles when it comes to being a fighter. Also its pretty cool

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 Месяц назад +3

      Isnt that kinda what buu was? And theres so many parallels to Cell even though we have Jiren, Frieza, Hit, Beerus, etc. If a villain is meant to represent a majority if his rouge's gallery then there really should be more than Cell.

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Месяц назад +6

      Thats just a cope from seth's video lol
      There should be no excuse for Goku repeating the same mistake he did against Cell😞and even with cell there was a reason, he was trying to push Gohan at least, here there's no reason Goku just didnt want to kill Moro for some reason. He didnt try to redeem Buu or Goku Black, why tf he trying with the demon goat.

    • @visualsaep148
      @visualsaep148 Месяц назад

      @@orbboom6119this scene and the cell scene are completely different scenarios.im tired that people always claimed to be the exact situation.

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Месяц назад +2

      @@visualsaep148 yes i diffirient them too bro read.
      But they are similar, goku gives a senzu bean to the main villain.
      But with moro is even worse cuz he could actually kill moro unlike cell and there was no good reason to not kill moro.

    • @T_money808
      @T_money808 Месяц назад +1

      @@orbboom6119 Goku giving Moro the senzu was a growing moment for him, the Senzu Bean with Moro he does it to prove a point and that point came to fruiton Goku states “You’ll never enjoy freedom again” which is something Moro values dearly. He showcases a vulnerability like a cornered animal, Goku knew what made Moro tic and exploited that weakness of his. He knew how much he cared about his freedom and that he’d be dead if he couldn’t retain it. He gave him a dilemma and knew Moro wanted to stay alive but he knows the moment he gives up he’ll rot away in the prison he hates so much. Goku was never trying to “reform” Moro it wasn’t his intention, he even states Moro will be locked up again. Jaco tells Goku to finish him and Goku says “I know I will” because his intentions were different than against Cell. This showcases Goku’s growth and progression as a character

  • @hughjazz6300
    @hughjazz6300 Месяц назад +13

    You might wanna watch Justins Dens vid for Granolah, i personally dont mind but its for the people that dont like condensed recaps and wanna see a full length movie

    • @bobbyhill6193
      @bobbyhill6193 2 дня назад

      What movie dude. It’s a fan made manga 😂

  • @Oreobtw8
    @Oreobtw8 Месяц назад +15

    Was waiting for this one

  • @Telarius
    @Telarius Месяц назад +9

    The dragonballs are magic. He can sense magic. Learned the dragonballs type of magic. He skipped over how he goes over some Namekians have mystical abilities similar to his magic. And he's learned it.

  • @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
    @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Месяц назад +3

    Moro, wishing for the prisons to get free, I understand how it feels underwhelming, but I actually liked it because it felt like a Batman Arkham Asylum breakout.

  • @ieatpotatosalad535
    @ieatpotatosalad535 Месяц назад +6

    35:15 Goku went to New Namek to get dende to be earths new guardian that’s how he was able to find it so quickly he’s already been there.

  • @Zeradias
    @Zeradias Месяц назад +64

    Carthu's RAGING hate boner for vegeta is annoying.

    • @rroca9140
      @rroca9140 Месяц назад +23

      Carthu seems quite an unlikeable person whenever he streams, so yeah, all of his complaining and interrupting the story to add his opinion on it doesn’t surprise me at all

    • @Zeradias
      @Zeradias Месяц назад +6

      @rroca9140 I caught his stream of the last super hero manga chapter, and bro made it a point to single out and trash vegeta for having reactions to the fight that like 10 other people were watching and giving reactions to whether it was a bead of sweat or facial reactions.

    • @jermiahahall6609
      @jermiahahall6609 Месяц назад +1

      Why do you watch?

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo Месяц назад +34

      @@Zeradias making fun of Vegeta is funny bro idk what to tell you LOL top 5 character for me regardless it's just entertainment. as for my streams same thing, we're constantly running bits for entertainment idk how you don't see that? last stream there was a bit about me being bald and old it's just jokes man no need to take it so seriously

    • @Zeradias
      @Zeradias Месяц назад +8

      @@CarthusDojo I don't find it funny

  • @chrissellers205
    @chrissellers205 Месяц назад +1

    Love this series big dawg keep grinding 💪🏽

  • @rosenoire1183
    @rosenoire1183 Месяц назад +8

    Kinda sad that Carthu didn't include the panels that showed Goku just walking in MUI and Moro taking 1 step back, getting confused as to why, then looking back at Goku into getting scared shitless. And also the dialogue between Vegeta and the Namekian Elder, which was a good interaction.
    I think watching Justin's den is better as its more comprehensive/full imo.

  • @corujarandompt9330
    @corujarandompt9330 Месяц назад +2

    So did everyone judt forget when goku says "I only had time to learn this one technique (instant transmition)"?

  • @jameswatts2338
    @jameswatts2338 Месяц назад +2

    Goku has been to new Namek during the cell saga in preparation for the cell games. He grabbed denda to be the new guardians of the Earth.

  • @AJkingwing
    @AJkingwing Месяц назад +19

    I feel like whoever said to watch Carthu instead just doesn’t like longer videos, man. :(
    The fights are such a major part of these arcs, and to see only the cliffnotes of them is very disheartening tbh. I will concede that his videos are edited better, and he's definitely got more charisma, but with Justin's Den, you are straight up reading the manga. He gives you everything you need to hear. From the jokes, to even the smallest details in the fights. Also he's unbiased and doesn’t pause to say "because plot" or anything 🫠
    Edit: Even at the end Sage is like "you can't just speed past all that day" because...YEAH. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS SO MUCH. 😭 I really would've loved to see his reaction to Goku fighting Moros massive fists, Whis flying down to talk to him, and Whis /casually/ stopping one with a single finger. Or Piccolo shooting ki blasts and allowing Gohan to use them as foot holds to parkour his way ahead and close in on his opponent. Or like.
    ANY of the Z-fighters battles against the prisoners.
    Like, so many smaller, cool moments happened that I would've loved to Sage's reaction on. I really hope he watches the Granolah arc through Justin's Den. I really do 😭

    • @marquistraylor1255
      @marquistraylor1255 Месяц назад +3

      There’s so many goated panels I wanted to see in this arc but were glossed over or skipped. I do appreciate Carthu’s video but I think for a first time viewing experience, it leaves so much on the table 😭 I’d rather Sage split up the videos if it ends up being “too long”

  • @vali4634
    @vali4634 Месяц назад +5

    I mean the simplest explanation besides it just being plot of him being able to sense the dragon ball is that they are connected to the lifeforce of the elder so he can just be using that

  • @shigo6745
    @shigo6745 Месяц назад

    sage pumping out content i love it

  • @dansayles
    @dansayles Месяц назад +1

    Dude the uub reveal at the end was so good. I jumped out of my seat reading

  • @RedeemerofDark
    @RedeemerofDark Месяц назад +2

    I think an important thing to note about this arc is that ignoring a few weird bits of dialogue from Piccolo its an arc that thematically and/or narratively explores how much Goku and Vegeta have changed over time and their commitment to doing what they stand out to do. With Vegeta now having developed and come such a long way since when he started he's practically morally higher then Goku STARTED as. And the seeming attempt with Goku was to explain that he's like half hero half selfish. That he has a sense of justice but he's well aware he has seriously jeopardized things a few times and did so on purpose simply because that's part of saiyan nature.
    The best showcases of this are Vegeta's remorse and what Carthu didn't show was I think he even bows down in deep shame for how he treated the Namekians in the past which is crazy for the SAIYAN PRINCE to do. And Goku, well aware that he could beat Moro and having more then enough power to do so/confidence to do so giving Moro multiple chances to attempt to become a better person. And only after each and every single one was rejected did Goku go for the kill. Its funny to...that almost seems to imply that Goku was sizing up Moro as something like another Vegeta. A clearly awful person with lots of power that he couldn't help but want to fight again without endangering everyone. But it sadly just wasn't in the cards and Moro was unwilling to change in any way.

  • @kvngmilfromnap
    @kvngmilfromnap Месяц назад

    Almost cried when I saw the vids 56 mins keep it coming love the long vids and fire content shitssssss gas

  • @shuri.kenz.
    @shuri.kenz. Месяц назад +4

    A few things I wanted to say about the senzu moment
    Goku was NEVER trying to make Moro a good guy nor was this like Cell situation. He literally tells Moro he will never be free ever again. What Goku wanted was the keep the will of Merus and spare Moro. Moro failed the test so Goku killed him, it's as simple as that
    Everything Goku does is for the will of Merus. He tries to reform Moro because Moro begged for his life and reforming villains is the Galactic Patrol way
    Notice when Vegeta went to kill him, Goku did not intervene at all and it was only when Merus died that he tried saving him
    Goku tested Moro to see if he truly wanted to be helped. He first crushed his will then asked when he had no options left by giving Moro a senzu bean and defeating him to show even if he heals in prison he has no hope.
    The senzu bean was nothing but a successful test that demonstrates Goku's character development as a hero and his stances on morality

  • @Mista-Jake
    @Mista-Jake 9 дней назад

    BRO WHEN HE STARTED PLAYING THE CELL THEME I WAS DYING LAUGHING! had to sub for that one XD

  • @NiceCheetah
    @NiceCheetah 17 дней назад

    The ad drop before the close up for choutzu is insane lmfao

  • @Fuuploobope
    @Fuuploobope Месяц назад +1

    Little tidbit but that in the air gut punch Goku took his time setting up on Moro sent shockwaves so hard Beerus AND Whis had to look away cause of how vicious it was genuinely can’t wait till that’s animated along side have you ever trained

  • @parrotlord7393
    @parrotlord7393 Месяц назад +2

    The yardrat techniques are also used by Goku (instant transmission) Tien (copies or anyone moving fast to use after images) and Piccolo (he grew huge against Cell Max and Goku)

  • @thecupofbrew7955
    @thecupofbrew7955 Месяц назад +4

    I think you'll really enjoy the Granola arc

  • @Beer1302
    @Beer1302 10 дней назад

    @45:31 got me tweakin with that laugh, Loved the video bro😂😂😂

  • @Vxno20
    @Vxno20 Месяц назад

    Cl I rate you for reacting to this, alot of spoilers but it's so good bro 🔥🔥

  • @I_love_DBZ
    @I_love_DBZ Месяц назад

    This video is about to be DOPE!! I can't wait! I discovered these Manga arcs through Carthu's vid, so I'm extra excited.

  • @user-vw2vv8qd2q
    @user-vw2vv8qd2q Месяц назад +2

    Do a Granolah arc next, pls, it is dope and Vegeta gets a BIG highlight and character dev

  • @scottyknows7576
    @scottyknows7576 Месяц назад

    I like all your vids you are hilarious i rate that your into anime and manga and basketball.

  • @nicholas2153
    @nicholas2153 Месяц назад +1

    12:23: The thing about the Dragon Balls is that they do exude a unique energy signature, (or whatever the appropriate phrasing would be) this is how Bulma's Dragon Radar can track them. She explains this when Goku gets her help with finding the last Dragon Ball after he defeats the red ribbon army, at the time the last Dragon Ball can't be tracked because Pilaf put it in a case which is made to jam the Dragon Balls signal. At the time she theorizes that an animal had eaten it and because of that the signal was being blocked by the animals' innards and stuff. So technically it isn't too farfetched to be able to detect this signal if your proficient in magic since the Dragon Balls are magical in nature. (they can do far too much unexplainable shit to say they are scientific, like creating panties out of nothing or grant someone their youth back) However, I do feel it's a bit iffy here. Maybe it could have used more work to get that to make more sense.

  • @Tempest_Mask2099
    @Tempest_Mask2099 Месяц назад +3

    Just came here to bring up that the sensu bean thing was more a call back to Goku vs. Piccolo. Goku gave him the sensu bean to give him a second chance.

  • @collinleivas9605
    @collinleivas9605 Месяц назад +2

    I remember thinking Goku was going to use Dragon Fist to hit Moro's head but even without it, Goku was something else in this arc. The way he grabbed Moro's wrist and Moro breaking his hand on Goku, it's all too good.

  • @jalensimmons6856
    @jalensimmons6856 Месяц назад +13

    It’s funny how at the start of the video he said the other dude was skipping a lot of stuff just for this dude to be doing the same thing😭

    • @sashalai3987
      @sashalai3987 Месяц назад +7

      This man went over Uub giving god ki to goku, goku unlocking perfect susanoo and the whole aftefmath of the fight in like 15 seconds wtf is this💀😭

    • @Zenith_Nulls
      @Zenith_Nulls Месяц назад

      ​@@sashalai3987 what would you have wanted him to add in that?? Rambling about those events doesn't change anything you will still understand what happened regardless of how condensed be makes it

    • @sashalai3987
      @sashalai3987 Месяц назад +1

      @@Zenith_Nulls if this video by carthu was the first and only way you experiemced the moro arc, you basically hot it ruined, having the whole finale of the fight narrated in that way completely ruins the pacing and weight it has on the story, so YES i would have liked for jim to have include everything ESPECIALLY during the arc ending?!

  • @wbrodie55
    @wbrodie55 Месяц назад +6

    12:00 to be fair, the dragon balls do emit energy. Its the main reason the dragon radar can find them when they are active. Otherwise, they would literally just be rocks.

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 Месяц назад +2

      Its just the fact that he can sense them for some reason. And he's supposed to only manipulate life energy, the only "alive" part of the dragon balls is the dragon itself but that seems like a stretch because none of the other characters notice this.

    • @Crazyee8
      @Crazyee8 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@arkkon2740he manipulated the planets’ energies as well, not just life energy.

    • @macdaddysauce5785
      @macdaddysauce5785 Месяц назад

      @@arkkon2740it’s been said throughout that that’s not the only ability that he knows. And Moro uses magic based attack meaning that he can only sense anything with magic. The dragon ball is magic not ki based so it’s not hard to understand that

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 Месяц назад

      @@Crazyee8 maybe its just me, but did he not refer to the planet's energy as "life energy" anyway?

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 Месяц назад

      @@macdaddysauce5785 So bulma used a ki scouter to track magic then? It was stated that the dragon balls had a similar energy signal, so are the dragon balls ki based or is ki just inherently magical despite magic being its own thing?

  • @TrixSony
    @TrixSony Месяц назад

    This was fun, liked and subscribed

  • @awesomediscussions
    @awesomediscussions Месяц назад +1

    This is actually not the first time we've seen Goku's Instant Transmission not work in the series due to lack of energy. There was also the time in GT when Goku was teleporting everyone on the planet to Planet Tuffle for evacuation. He forgot about Piccolo, so he tried to teleport to Piccolo to save him, but he couldn't because he was out of energy.

  • @cyek9761
    @cyek9761 Месяц назад +2

    I’m kind of annoyed you didn’t get to see roshis and the earthlings fight

  • @strawhat_moses4079
    @strawhat_moses4079 День назад

    I’m curious where did you watch it, I wanna see this animated like crazy

  • @THEYFW-jh2so
    @THEYFW-jh2so Месяц назад

    I look forward to your reactions to the next saga

  • @Riley_187
    @Riley_187 Месяц назад +1

    23:05 I'm pretty sure the DBZ cannon states a person can only enter the Time Chamber twice, or they can only spend a total of 2yrs inside. I could be misremembering tho.

  • @ScapeVEVO
    @ScapeVEVO Месяц назад +2

    Goku really went to base, squatted down to Moro’s bitch ass and said “have you… EVER trained?” THATS MY KINGGGGG 💯💯🔥🔥🔥

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X 17 дней назад +1

    29:49 At least it wasn't Yamcha... so nobody died.
    30:00 Oh no, Yamcha's about to get Yamcha'd

  • @mousie508
    @mousie508 Месяц назад +6

    The creator of the video said Moro knew where the dragon ball was bc of plot yet Moro literally saw the same memory the great lord of lords saw in his own head💀 he probably saw the same shi when he killed that namekian Moro also let the prisoners go bc he had already planned out what to do also 73 had his powers Zeno also erased trunk’s timeline which included the grand priest and all angels if they were still alive why hasn’t the GP gone to find him

  • @childishsloth4164
    @childishsloth4164 Месяц назад +1

    When would the granola stream be?

  • @ray0064
    @ray0064 Месяц назад

    31:04 I know you gonna give the Goat Chaotzu his credit, right😤

  • @justcuzitsepic5874
    @justcuzitsepic5874 17 дней назад

    "OH PEOPLE KEEP ON WINNING ON MAGIC BULLSHIT, BET!!"
    LMAOOOO laughed so hard 😂

  • @MegaMachiOnline
    @MegaMachiOnline Месяц назад +2

    Technically Kibito Kai had no ki left to teleport to Namek to heal Goku after teleporting between the Living & Dead Realms like 3 times which is vastly distant compared to most people Goku locks onto to compensate for teleporting unlike Kibito Kai, hence why he didn’t escape Cell’s explosion despite being super saiyan.
    If only he had a senzu though.

  • @provide_r
    @provide_r Месяц назад

    FINALLYYYYYYYY. One of the greats is witnessing peak. Lets gooooooooo. W vid

  • @lucidmind9676
    @lucidmind9676 Месяц назад +1

    Justin’s video actually go in more details with the arcs whereas Carthu skims thru them and like others said, inserts his bias about specific segments so Justin’s videos are more better when it comes to summarizing the arcs

  • @Rscreen
    @Rscreen Месяц назад +2

    Skipping the roshi and z fighters fights is insane, I knew you would've like that one

    • @islamdz7541
      @islamdz7541 Месяц назад

      Especially when yamcha said " I'm one of the 3 strongest earthlings " or something like that, getting pass that is a crime.

  • @odin-gamingandwrestling7141
    @odin-gamingandwrestling7141 Месяц назад +1

    this just goes to show that uub is going to end up one of the absolute most powerful characters in the series if they utilize him right. Lil' kid uub having enough power to push Goku back into MUI and create a literal ki avatar means that dude is probably gonna get some INSANE feats in the future

  • @ivyVbby
    @ivyVbby 25 дней назад

    35:25 Instant Transmission works because you teleport based on a familiar Ki. That’s why Goku popped up in Vegeta’s literal bedroom once trying to get home 😂😂😂 that’s why he had to bring Cell to King Kai’s Home instead of just ‘space’. No one he knows in just ‘space’

  • @Zorua89
    @Zorua89 13 дней назад

    Your reaction at the end was priceless. When he saw Uub reveal then Goku create an avatar of himself replying “ What the fuck am I’m watching” Lima😭☠️😭☠️

  • @SplashGangNorri
    @SplashGangNorri Месяц назад +1

    I’m not gone lie brother( and this is just me replying to your beginning part about Goku getting so adept at MUI so soon after just tapping into it at the time of need when he literally needed to break his current limit to even stay in the fight) I’ve went back & recently re watched Dragonball at least 3 times in the last 2 years & boy let me remind you how freaky of a alien Goku is. The man at 12 years old pulled up on master Roshi seen him do the kamehameha wave ONCE & just pulled it out his bag like it was NOTHING no training no understanding of how to even use ki energy at all yet just pulling out a KW like it was nothing. Mind you I don’t want you to get the wrong idea I totally was in the same thought process as you thinking they should’ve flushed out the progress of him mastering the technique a lil more than they did & gave him more time before he fully masters it I do get that trust. However time & time again we have been shown since the beginning of this series that Goku’s lil freaky ass is just hella gifted when it comes to catching on to techniques really fast & making them his own. So it’s not in the realm of that’s just bullshi writing even though it can be perceived that way when 1. if you don’t really go back & peep his story you won’t even see that Goku’s body BEEN like that since he was a jit & 2. Their reputation for bad writing gave us all PTSD so we’re so quick to dismiss something as being possible like him being able to progress so fast with the UI/MUI technique. Yes I know it is a God tier technique but we gotta remember this isn’t Krillin Yamcha who are humans, to them that technique will forsho take probably YEARS to even understand & master which we seen Roshi do it for a min against Jiren in the manga but Roshi is literally a sage & that man is hundreds of years old so him doing it makes sense he had time to master his techniques his ki control his mind etc. However Goku is an alien from earth, so I just decided to look at it from that perspective that Goku is just one of those anomalies that adapts to things a lot faster than the average fighter God or Human. If I’m tripping tho tell me I’m tripping I love talking about this stuff fr ? lol also lemme go watch the rest of this video cause the Moro arc is GOATED IMO. No pun intended 🤣🙌🏽

  • @phillysgaming9814
    @phillysgaming9814 Месяц назад

    Yo sage my bad bc u probably said it but I missed it where do u go live at I’m trying to tune in

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 Месяц назад +2

    Its crazy the Moro arc hasn't been animated. Think about this
    Super anime: July 2015-March 2018
    (Less than three years)
    The anime was around less than three years but has been done for over *SIX* years.
    The Moro arc has been *FINISHED for over three years* now with no adaptation in sight

    • @Megatron6260
      @Megatron6260 20 дней назад

      It’s fr about to get the Bleach Treatment

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 Месяц назад

    1:19 “I beg your pardon?” 😂😂😂

  • @Telarius
    @Telarius Месяц назад

    Dang it I hopped you'd watch Mondocools Moro Arc. Their music choices make it so much more hype. And they do some voice acting.

  • @TrippZ8
    @TrippZ8 26 дней назад

    46:30 the entire point of the senzu scene is to show goku learning from his time with frieza when he spared him and the moment he had his back turned frieza immediately tried to kill him he asked Moro if he would stay in prison if he left him alive but if he was at full power he would get the real answer because Moro would just break out again and Goku knows that he is still more than enough for Moro so he can afford to do this to see if he has to kill him to carry out meerus’s will

  • @nicholasmullins3693
    @nicholasmullins3693 11 часов назад

    10 minutes in and I've got the idea that Moro is the result of the writers going "What if the enemy had a spirit bomb? What if the enemy WAS a Spirit bomb?"

  • @marcofernandez7550
    @marcofernandez7550 Месяц назад

    yes do granolah next ts mad fire

  • @silentsnake4750
    @silentsnake4750 Месяц назад

    I remember waiting for every chapter release for this arc was good

  • @diddly-squat9332
    @diddly-squat9332 Месяц назад

    When the Dragon Balls were first introduced (in the first chapter), Bulma explains that they emit a faint electromagnetic pulse, and this is what her radar pick up. So the simple matter is that Molo has learned how to track that pulse on his own.
    As for Pure Boo (Kid Buu), the reason why he has both Regular Ki and God Ki, is because, by absorbing the Dai Kaiōshin (Great Lord of Lords/Grand Supreme Kai) and the Minami no Kaiōshin (Southern Lord of Lords/Supreme Kai) he obtained their Natural God Ki.
    Core People like the Kais are born with Divine Energy, while mortal like Gokū, Vegeta and Toppo have to train in order to obtain it, by refining and condensing their own energy. Gokū Black SSGSS form is pink for that specific reason, Zamas has natural divine energy, while the same form has blue aura and hair when the user is a mortal who can tap into divine energy.
    When Boo split into two parts, the natural divine energy inherited by the two Kai, remained inside the Pure Evil Boo (Evil Buu) and later Pure Boo (Kid Buu), while the Mr. Boo (the Boo that resulted from Innocent Boo expelling the evil from within) was left with the Dai Kaiōshin persona within him, but not his divine energy.
    As for the Ginyu Force attacking Planet Yardrat, that does not mean there are more than Ginyu members, Vegeta himself states (when Goku came back from Yardrat) that the Ginyu Force was attacking that Planet around the time the Namek Saga was happening, this simply means that they had trouble conquering the planet, in fact there are abandoned destroyed city scattered here and there.
    A lot of people are also making jokes on how Molo is Boo and Cell combined, but the truth is that every Dragon Ball character, specially the main one, are all inspired by characters from the Journey to the West, Merus and Molo are based on Tripitaka and Sun Wukong, just like Whis and Beers are. Even the scene where Freeza kills Krilin happens in Journey to the West, when Sun Wukon kills Tripitaka's loved interest, destroying her from existence just to say to Tripitaka "I destroyed your loved one, where is you Buddha at? - What can you pacifist way do for you now?" because, just like Freeza and Molo, Sun Wukong things himself superior to everyone simply because of his power and longevity and can't be bothered to deal with inferior beings that can only live for few decades or so.
    When Sun Wukong was a demon, he also ate people to absorb their essence, which is why Boo, Cell and Molo are the way they are, they are all representation of what Sun Wukong was, before becoming the Victorious Fighting Buddha (which is instead the inspiration for Gokū).
    Also, just so we are clear, Gokū giving a Senzu to Molo is not the same thing as he did with Cell, because the motivations are different.
    Gokū gave it to Molo because, like Tripitaka, he things that Demons should be reformed and not destroyed, but when that fails, that's when the destruction is inevitable. This is so he naturally follows the laws of the Universe and why Vegeta fails time and again, just like he got punished for the way he dealt with Freeza when he first came back to life (in "Resurrection of F") because Vegeta acted like a Villain, Vegeta IS a Villain, he seems not to be because his target are other Villains, but if you look the way he fights and how Gokū fights, it is clear that Vegata heart is not in the right place.
    As for Cell, Gokū gave a Senzu not to try to reform him, but to help Gohan because he knew that the only way to awaken Gohan's true power was to push him over the brink, BUT failed to consider Gohan's feeling, because he doesn't like it when he looses himself to rage, because Gohan is not like his father, he has much more potential, but he's not a martial artist and relies solely on his emotional strength but when he loses himself, he is afraid of what can happen because he respects life (even the artificial kind − which is why he snaps when 16 gets destroyed in front of his eyes) and hates to kill.

  • @Pleasant_Lemon
    @Pleasant_Lemon Месяц назад

    I went into the video like "IS THIS MAN IN THE FUTURE "😂

  • @rinuchiha6961
    @rinuchiha6961 Месяц назад +1

    Goku may have known about Spirit Fission but was most likely in a rush to get back to Earth as quickly as possible due to Frieza having a headstart. As for using the technique on Cell, that would not work since Cell's Absorption is entirely different as he sucks life energy and not actually fusing like Buu. Also I don't think it would work on Buu either

  • @Tdhdchu
    @Tdhdchu Месяц назад +1

    I can't wait for you too see the part in granola arc where...
    No spoilers allowed

  • @syed2187
    @syed2187 Месяц назад

    9:45 Theres also a chance that goku didn't have enough energy to teleport back to earth when cell blew up

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 Месяц назад +1

    What time is the stream tomorrow?

  • @user-fq3fo8xo5p
    @user-fq3fo8xo5p Месяц назад +2

    Can we talk about the ginyu force having more members is that mean freiza just didnt think he needed them or did they refuse to come i know toryama most likely just forgot about them being defeated on namek but still

  • @jacenwade
    @jacenwade Месяц назад

    I always like Seth the programmers description of the Moro saga and what he represents to Goku, about how he’s is the culmination of all of gokus past enemies.

  • @fluffernutter6633
    @fluffernutter6633 Месяц назад +2

    Vegeta doesn't misread his opponents strength. He knows when an opponent is stronger, he's just too arrogant to care. The only exception to this was the Androids and that's because he couldn't sense their energy. Technically his first fight against Goku could also be an exception, but that's only because Goku stood no chance without Kaio-Ken.
    Vegeta is constantly shown to be one of the smartest (in battle) Z-Fighters, easily on par with Piccolo. If it wasn't for his Saiyan pride driving him to fight every enemy head-on Vegeta would be a tactical menace.

  • @marcelocapeljunior3579
    @marcelocapeljunior3579 Месяц назад

    Didn't the Chamber get destroyed by Vegeta just before the Tournament of Power? How long does it take to fix it?

  • @DriskotTheDense
    @DriskotTheDense Месяц назад

    I forget what exact video it is but TotallyNotMark has a section in his vid covering the Moro arc when Piccolo says Vegetas never misjudged an opponent it goes into a slideshow of a bunch of drawings of Vegeta folded in the same pose thepughout all of his L's lmao

  • @lavenderpsycho
    @lavenderpsycho Месяц назад

    This arc is really good sets up a ton of stuff for my personal favorite the granola

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 Месяц назад +1

    Moro basically tells Namek "Give me your energy! Scrumdiddlyumptious! My compliments to the chef!"

  • @vincenthall3520
    @vincenthall3520 Месяц назад +2

    Next the Granolah arc

  • @user-df5dg8tf4w
    @user-df5dg8tf4w Месяц назад

    oh fucking shit dude this is so creative props to you bro

  • @Stratilex
    @Stratilex Месяц назад

    I've watched Carthu's video many times already, but at 33:07 I got chills it's crazy

  • @lololol924
    @lololol924 Месяц назад +2

    Moro was on track to be the best antagonist in the seires...until they ruined him by having him transform.
    Having a villain that uses magic to fight is such a clever way to bypass the god tier strength of goku and Vegeta.
    They could have even had piccolo be relavent again by making him lean into "Kami" and learn some Namekian magic or something to help fight.

  • @RetroEternity
    @RetroEternity Месяц назад +1

    17:35 Moro wishing the prisoners free wasn’t the issue. It was that the chapter ended on a cliffhanger and for 1 month fans online speculated and made theory videos wondering what Moro’s wish could be. If the DBS manga had a weekly release schedule it might not have been so bad, but since we had to wait a month the anticipation got people really hyped for something that felt kinda lackluster in the grand scheme of things.

    • @Jerry-jo6dn
      @Jerry-jo6dn Месяц назад

      At first it was but OG 73’s copy ability is overpower.

  • @Morjiro
    @Morjiro Месяц назад +1

    I this arc there was a moment where Goku apologizes to Gohan because Gohan had to fight

  • @kawakiuzumaki3623
    @kawakiuzumaki3623 Месяц назад

    My first time seeing this arc. I regret not waiting fir the anime

  • @oriintheclutch28
    @oriintheclutch28 Месяц назад +3

    Would recommend justin's den, dont like Carthu's bias in a recap video