The Signing That Never Made Sense
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Kris Bryant on the Rockies: It perplexed us all when the announcement was made and it's only gotten even more perplexing with time. You trade away Arenado and give the Cardinals $50 million only to do this? And this was with original projections with him in Colorado. It's been even worse than anyone could've ever imagined for him. The contract is now an albatross and Bryant is without a true position.
Which is why it's the signing that never made sense. At all. #krisbryant #mlb #coloradorockies
There's a reason Brandon Perna never talks about baseball
I thought it was cause the Rockies suck.
Until we stop giving them money! I don't support the Rockies. I want the owner, Manford to sell and he said, as long as people come to the games, I ain't changing anything.
@@16ktsgammaIt’s the way they suck
Perna barely mentions the Nuggets much less the Rockies.
@@johnpoole3871and the Nuggets are good, too
Lifelong Cubs fan. Kris Bryant was my favorite player in that cubs core. It hurts me seeing how his career has collapsed after he left.
Hey Chicago what do you say the L is flying high today blow cubs blow
He's not even the only former Cub from the 2016 squad that's fallen on hard times. Javy Baez is another example.
It always sucks to see a great player long past their prime.
As a Tigers fan, I tried to watch one of Scherzer's Ranger games last post-season and needed to turn it off after an inning, because it was too sad.
They can't all age like Verlander, have a storybook sendoff season like Pujols, or retire before their decline like Posey.
@@Wolf10193 Too bad the Cubs own your team loser.
@@Wolf10193 so what has your team done since?
The tigers signing Javier Baez: hold our Faygo
It’s something about those World Series cubs players that can’t prevent bad teams from overpaying for them
Bryant still looked like a good player, if not MVP. Baez…I have no idea how they didn’t see this coming.
If you wanna go back even a little farther, you could also go with us signing Jordan Zimmerman.
@@epict1337its funny, i remember jordan zimmermann having a good first month before cratering. On a team that still had some of its aces. Eduardo rodriguez made less sense
That made sense tho. Baez fell off but the falloff was weird. Colorado traded away an even better 3B for nothing then spent an absurd amount on a slight downgrade that turned out to be much more than a ‘slight’ downgrade
"before we beat more dead horses" good description of the Rockies as a franchise
So Denver Broncos-lite
They need a rename. Rocky Mountain Oysters makes sense. This team is BALLS.
My friend refers to the Rockies as the North Korea of Baseball. Pyongyang Oysters?
As someone who’s been a fan since they arrived and generally views trash talk as only that, this made me laugh and it falls solidly under the “it’s funny because it’s true” banner.
"I hear the school system in Denver is nice" - Good reference to the Mike Hampton signing back in 2000
Provided more value in WAR with his bat than he did as a pitcher!
Add to that they were still paying off the horrendous Darryl Kile deal from a few years earlier. Also after shipping him off to the Cardinals for prospects and a salary dump.
@@ahogg5960that can be hated on but they were trying something different and had some hitters on that team. It failed but this is just bad
@@ahogg5960Plus Colorado had to attach speedy outfielder Juan Pierre to get Florida to bite. He only became a big piece of the 03 Marlins run and a good leadoff guy in general.
Hi. Rare Rockies fan here. The only reason the Rockies signed Kris Bryant was because they had nobody else to market for bobblehead night.
Rockies are a cool team. Love the purple
Dodger fan here: I can believe that, but Ezequiel Tovar is the real deal.
Now their stuck with a CRIPPLED player for 7 years. 180 million in the toilet
Monfort is actually a demon… dude blows and is completely unfazed by the success of the Avs and Nuggets
Kris Bryant has accomplished everything an MLB player dreams of in his tenure as a Cub from an MVP to winning a World Series that he retired early and the Rockies are paying him to vacation in Denver
You are so right! Nicely done. 😅😅😅
You know the Rockies suck when even South Park doesn't acknowledge them
"I'm sorry I thought this was America!"
There were two episodes
They acknowledge them in multiple episodes. One of Randy marsh’s most iconic episodes takes place in coors field for like a third of the episode
They did it a couple of times. Most notably, when Randy fought Bat Dad.
They subtly mocked them by showing Professor Chaos so easily hacking their Coors Field scoreboard back in 2002 😂😂😂
Since the Cubs decided to blow it up in 2021
Anthony Rizzo - goes to the Yankees where he still productive when not injured
Javey Baez - has an interesting season with the Mets then goes to Detroit where he's doing his best Chris Davis impression
Kris Bryant - spent a season with the Giants then goes to the Rockies and that's all I really need say
If the Cavs didn’t also win in 2016 I’d have a conniption, saying “we made this team look competitive?”
You forgot Contreras, who went to the division rival just to be treated like shit
@@chazztreat8317They beat the dodgers in the NLCS in 6 games, they were really good, just regressed
@@MustacheDLuffy agreed
Then add javy beaz, Anthony rizzo, william contreras, Addison Russel, Kyle schwarber, Lester, Lackey, Jason heyward, David Ross, ben zobrist, Jorge Solar, Dexter Fowler... What a crazy group of ppl to all be on the same team
I know that MLB is particularly rough on "small market" teams, but the Rockies are truly a marvel of incompetence.
One of the few things that can make me appreciate what we have in the Guards here. As much as things often suck, it could always be soooo much worse.
You are on fire this year. I hope it can hold on. Tigers fan btw.
how much trash did the Indians unload on Dan O'Dowd? Too much
Guards?
What team is that on confused dude
@@cokesquirrel I think he means Cleveland Guardians (formerly Indians).
Thing is, the Rockies AREN'T a small market team! That is 100% a narrative sold by ownership doing poverty cosplay. Denver is solidly mid-pack in terms of metro size and available TV viewers and the team draws extremely well even when they're goddamned terrible. They're on pace to draw well over 2 million this year even though they're awful and show no signs of contending any time soon.
_When you think about it, Colorado might be the most cursed baseball location of all time._
Atleast they made it to a World Series
@@hydenmoody4373Back when they had Holliday, Tulo, Helton, and most importantly, a competent pitching staff from top to bottom (all 6 primary starters had an ERA below 5, and the bullpen was excellent). Since the 2007 NLCS, they're 2-11 in the playoffs and have finished last or second-to-last in the NL West 10 times, going on 11.
Yeah, but they got their ass kicked. Unfortunately they were going to probably get swept by every single AL opponent that would have made it.
I love here it sucks but I’m a cubs fan so I’m good!!
Player strikes lost the Montréal Expos _BOTH_ their world series runs.
Whenever my diamondbacks are performing terribly, I always default to: “At least we’re not the Rockies”.
Exactly
Our dbacks still have a bright future, especially considering that many of our injured guys are starting to come back. The Rockies on the other hand…….
That Nolan trade killed my love for the Rockies. In fact I fucking hate them nowadays. Doesn't even feel like my city has an MLB team anymore.
They have an MLB stadium that hosts exhibition matches between MLB teams and a AAAA team
They technically play Major League Baseball, but they're a AAA team at best.
We don’t have a team anymore. The Rockies are just there to sell knockoff Yankee pinstripe merchandise.
least you got the nuggets and avalanche i guess
Yes...I've been saying this the past 5 years. They are simply a home game for transplants who like other teams. Typically big crowds for Cubs fans, Giants, Dodgers and Brewers.
Even better, the Rockies JUST DFA’d Elehuris Montero, the biggest prospect the Rockies got in return for the Arenado deal to St. Louis
Which is further proof how overrated prospects are, and how weary people should be in protecting them! (I'm looking at you Jed Hoyer)
A part of me thought the Giants were gonna re-sign KB in the offseason of 2021.
Then he got that contract from the Rockies and the rest is history.
I wonder how much synthetic weed is in the air around the Rockies franchise.
Its not even like Chris Davis where he just suddenly sucked and cheated a team out of their money
His last few years in Wrigley he was constantly getting hurt and he was an above average player but he wasn't the 2016 MVP he used to be.
And then they just idefk
Giants fan here - KB play was not elite after they traded for him, glad they did passed on a big contract fr him
I used to be the biggest Rockies fan. Once they turned their back on Nolan, I could not forgive this ownership. I went from 5-10 games per year to 0 since Nolan left. SELL THE TEAM!
Happy Bobby Bonilla Eve everyone!
Some teams have a mountain of problems. The Rockies have a whole range.
Best line this year
I suffer as I wait for the Monforts to sell the team before even something goes right. Last year was the worst year ever, and we’re about to be worse than that. I can’t believe the solution to getting rid of our best players was to give Kris Bryant $162 million to be on IL, washed, or both. Pain.
I don’t think I’ve heard a single Rockies fan say anything about the team other than “sell the team” since the Bryant deal
As a day one Rockies fan (one in exile for the last several years however, cause I'm not dedicating a cent to this joke) this is deserved roasting. Ownership doesn't give a shit about anything but lining their pockets and employing/promoting their church buddies, so giving so much $ to Kris Bryant, who was fading and struggling with injuries, right after not only giving away a future Hall of Famer in Arenado but paying another team to have him, was truly the final nail in my Rockies coffin.
8:50 - Nice little dig at Mike Hampton towards the end. Lol
Funny how this is a video about a position player instead of a pitcher, when the Rockies team ERA is pushing 6. Tree could pitch for this team
Rockies will be scouting the Greeley little league team soon if this keeps up…
Ya but everyone scores more in Colorado they will never be a top of league era team but could be a great offensive team
@@jacobschannel576 ubaldo Jimenez had a career best 2.88 ERA, the Rockies could absolutely build a great pitching team, they just don’t give a shit.
I'll never forget. After Nolan was traded Dick Monfort actually bragged that he "believed the team could go 500". The Rockies just make me count down till football season, and basketball season, and hockey season, and lacrosse season, and soccer season, and curling season, and darts season. Actually any season is better than watching the Rockies
I love trying to rebuild the Rockies in OOTP baseball. Really gets going in 2028 when the Senzatela, Freeland, and Bryant contracts expire
Dick Monfort holding me at gunpoint to re-sign 40 year old chuck nazty is the most realistic thing ive seen in a video game
@@Arden2000 i somehow managed to dump him. Dont now how
I blame the Rockies for me in the entirety of Colorado not getting into baseball. If any team were to become like the Arizona coyotes itd be us after the A's
This is a certified hood classic.
Surprised you didn't drop this video tomorrow considering tomorrow is Bobby Bonilla Day
The only thing keeping me happy as a Rockies fan is the young position players we have and trade or draft for any minor league pitchers since at least a few of them are bound to work out
As a Rox fan. Until we get new owners, we are fucked.
just let go brother, they will never change
@@jdrummerdd a lot easier said than done
“Happy” and “Rockies fan” are directly at odds with each other
Kris Bryant’s career path has made me sad as a cubs fan
He's Mr. Glass
When he signed that contract I thought it was a parody account who reported it
I mean, I first saw it from the Rockies Twitter which is basically just a parody baseball franchise anyway
Hey tree, will you do a haters guide to the Euros?
I enjoyed your last football/soccer vid and given the poor quality play at the tournament it would be brilliant to have your shitpost perspective.
Denver here. Unsubbed for reminding me the Rockies exist.
lol
I mean, the Bryant signing never had anything to do with him fitting the team's window, or even them thinking he was an MVP still. Dick Monfort wanted a recognizable face of the franchise after the Arenado trade and Story's departure. And since the Rockies had been infatuated with KB ever since he was in college (they were devastated to miss out on him by a spot in the draft), and he was a free agent, they were not about to be denied and bid against themselves (as per usual).
Gotta sell bobbleheads somehow
What he wanted was a Marquee name to attract more fans to the ballpark, even if the fans are from the opposing team, which they are. Tickets are tickets, and Dick only cares about money. When he acquired KB he was thinking about buying his next private jet, not whether or not it would bring the Rockies success. He's never going to sell this cash cow. Laughing all the way to the bank.
First mistake was trading Nolan AND 50 million dollars for nothing. Second was doing nothing at the 2021 deadline and losing Story For nothing. Third was thinking they could REPLACE them. LMAO
@@ashwinranji8790 Nolan hasn't really done anything to propel the Cardinals to a championship, and he's under delivering so far in 2024. Other than the 50 million cash giveaway, I'm not one of the Rockies fans that still to this day laments losing him. We have a decent 3rd baseman in Ryan McMahon. I'm more pissed about the Kris Bryant acquisition and what a disaster that's been.
He was elite in 2022, but yeah overall the numbers have dipped since leaving Coors. That happens though to like everybody so…uhh idk.
But 💯 I agree the KB signing was way worse.
I’m a Rockies fan pain so much pain I hate this signing and we’re still paying 20 plus million a year
As a Ms fan, Tree, please, cover how terrible this office is.
54%
Sitting on an elite pitching staff only to redo the King Felix story arc
The utter refusal to spend money to aquire a bat to bolster the club because 'damn it we can build from within'
Torch. Them. Tree.
If the bottom falls out, I bet he'll make a video on it
It didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now
Facts
We can say that about many many trades
@@MazeDaGr8Some bad trades made sense at the time, like the Baez trade to the Tigers. We needed a shortstop, seemed like we were about to turn a corner and the other big option, Correa had his own baggage (Astros, injuries, and financial cost). It has been terrible for us, but I bought into it at the time.
#H2P man!
It's the Rockies. Nothing makes sense. Nothing ever makes sense.
The franchise is cursed.
As a Rockies fan, we will never be good. Never. No pitcher will come here cause of altitude. No one else will come to a poverty franchise with an egotistical owner who believes his team “deserves” higher. The Colorado Rockies will be the poverty sports team until I die and I’m only 21.
It's truly depressing, players all over the league were polled and the Rockies are in the same tier as As and White Sox as teams that players dont wish to go. For pitching I understand but it's kinda crazy that not even hitters want to sign to stat pad. The Rockies don't take advantage of Coors.
I’m still waiting for the Colorado Rockies legacy of failure
I'm sure we'll have that in about 5 years the next time they sign an all star to a big contract and they follow the same path to misery that Kris Bryant and Nolan arenado took
Wooo lets go Rockies content!!!! 😃😃😃
Rockiessssss 🙂🙂🙂
Rockies.....🙁🙁🙁
Putting a guy in LF in Coors is such a rude move, that outfield is big and guys get exhausted quicker in the higher altitude, it has actual fielding demand
That was their biggest mistake, if they wanted him that bad they should have put him at first base from the start
You can definitely put a lot of this blame on Kris Bryant. Sure the deal didn't make sense, but Bryant has been nothing short of abysmal for them. Dude hasn't even played in a full season's worth of games for them since 2022 and even when he is playing, he's not producing anything offensively
Blame for what? Being mortal? Blame for aging over time? Blame for agreeing to accept free money?
@@kurtwicklund8901 Blame him for not performing up to the huge contract he signed. Doesn't matter the reasons why, it doesn't change the fact that Bryant isn't worth what he's getting paid
Finally, a Rockies video can't wait for the legacy of failure
He did another video years ago
As a Mariners fan, I can sypathize with Rockies fans. *cries in Robinson Cano*
@X525Crossfire
Did you know he is playing in Mexico city right now (Cano)
Dude is hitting .456
Cano at least was somewhat productive in Seattle.
Bryant is nowhere close to that
Not surprised from the only professional team without a title
Charlie Blackmon and German Marquez deserved better
Basically, they signed Kris as a “replacement” for Arenado at least in terms of being a star. Just like most things Rockies it fails spectacularly
Chuck Nazty deserved better than this
I will say that, as a Rockies fan, I do think that long overdue rebuild has finally begun as of trade deadline 2023. We traded all we could and got some decent pitching prospect return and committed to a almost entirely rookie/sophomore lineup. Guys are getting reps at the plate that never would before and it looks like it's moving in the right direction.
Bryant is our big dead weight. His production and health are so shot I have no idea how we get rid of him. McMahon is under control until 2027 and that may possibly be in our window so would it be worth sacrificing him just to get out of Bryant?
In the meantime, I hope the Rockies do trade Elias Diaz for sure, and at least Cal Quantrill as well and take flyers on Brandon Rodgers.
I think they should just stick him at DH whenever possible. I never want to see him in the outfield ever again
Scott Boras clients and sharply declining after signing huge contracts. Name a more iconic duo
Almost smells like a grift, doesn’t it??
The fact that Bryant has fallen off a cliff is sad. He was one of my favorite Cubs players of the last decade
One of Baseballs biggest problems, nay Professional Sports in General, is that they no longer represent the Cities in which they play . The DETROIT LIONS play in PONTIAC !
THE NEW YORK AND JETS play in NEW JERSEY ! THE ANGELS play somewhere else in CALIFORNIA every decade !
The NHL and NBA are soon to follow along those very lines in the near future.
Team Loyalty is a marketing concept and a one way street .
Analytics has overtaken personalities and abilities for determining players worth . And the WORTH !!?? Lets just say that Professional Sports has surpassed the PENTAGON when it comes to wasteful spending and lack of oversight.
As a Cubs fan, I will always appreciate and love Kris Bryant for his role in the 2016 run plus his incredible start to his career (all-star in 2015 and 2016, 2015 NL Rookie of the Year, 2016 NL MVP). Unfortunately, he’s been ravaged with injuries since 2018 when, early in the season, he got hit in the head with a pitch COINCIDENTALLY by the Rockies, and he can’t seem to stay out on the field long enough to be productive.
Don’t let this distract you from the Dodgers-Giants game yesterday making no sense whatsoever.
Go Giants 🤎🖤
Put that guy on a winning team he will go back to form
Happy Bobby Bonillia day tree
Please somebody take the team away from him!
I'd call the Rox' leadership/ownership incompetent bozos, but that's insulting...to incompetent bozos. Until and unless the ownership changes, the Rox will stay in the bottom tier
Why oh why do I have to be a Rockies fan
Put some respect on Ezequiel Tovar
bryant was looking for a big boy deal, rockies needed asses in seats
Sox fan here, man I wish the Rockies had held on to Story. That contract was always going to be a disaster even without the terrible injury luck- it was a preemptive excuse to let Bogaerts walk, and Story's bat was always inflated by playing in Coors Field. The defense was nice, but 23 mil a year for six years for a defensive specialist (and an oft-injured one at that) hamstrung Bloom's spending capabilities for the last few years of his tenure.
I know it's not your focus Tree but always love seeing the baseball vids from you. Excited for the weekly NFL vids to start up in two months.
Plain and simple. I see a new Utree video I drop everything.
You're pathetic
After living the last few years of having the Pirates be the example of embarrassingly bad baseball, I'm just glad we have teams like this now to be like "well at least we're not the Rockies"
Trailblazers and Rockies legacy of failures would be fun. I know the Blazers did win a ring in 77 but it would still be a fun watch.
As a Giants fan I almost passed out when I found out the Rockies signed KB lol
the rockies dfa montero today (6/30/24) if you want kicker to the arenado trade
6:40 Command and Conquer music.
Target / Mechanical Man (Remastered)
I remember a lot of Mariners fans, myself included, wanted Bryant that offseason. Most of us were ok not getting him when we saw the contract, and that feeling has only been validated since
Underrated bit at the end about the Colorado school system. If you know, you know
Stephen Strasburg's contract has been the worse. Over 200 million dollars for less than 50 innings of work.
Giants dodged a bullet by not re-signing Bryant lol
...I'm going to need a STRONG drink for this one, aren't I?
They know Coors field will sell tickets, owners don't give a shit.
I remember the headliners of the second half of the 2021 free agent class being Schwarber, Castellanos, and Bryant. My Phillies got the other two players and both produce for us.
I remember being kinda pissed when the Phillies were thinking of signing Bryant instead of Schwarber..So glad they didn’t!.Phills Dodged a bullet!
Árbol you coulda done the Andrew Benintendi Red Sox contract too
To be fair it never makes sense for anyone to go to the Rockies
That's not true. Old players who are just trying to collect a decent paycheck before retirement always make sense. Like Jason Giambi and Roy Oswalt
Love seeing a baseball video from you, Tree. Keep 'em coming. Bobby Bonilla Day is tomorrow, though with the recent Mets resurgence to .500 and the third wild card spot, I'm not sure exactly how that video will work. You can't mock a team that is surprising everyone by not being shit. I guess a video about how surprisingly well they're playing would work, particularly if you jinx them by predicting continued good play.
I agree that the Rockies should have never signed Bryant or moved him to the outfield. I remember being shocked and perplexed when they signed Bryant, same as everyone else. They also should have learned from the Atlanta Braves that you do not move a franchise-caliber third baseman to the outfield. People forget that the Braves moved Chipper Jones to left field in 2002 and 2003 to put Vinny Castilla at third. Chipper said after retirement that the move hurt his career because of the surprising amount of wear and tear it put on his legs, particularly a knee that had already had ACL surgery when he was a rookie. Despite that previous knee surgery, he had nine injury-free seasons to start his career. After that left field excursion, he missed time in all of the last nine seasons of his career. The fact that Chipper became a Hall of Famer is a minor miracle, putting up great numbers while playing through pain, being injected with God knows how many Cortisone shots, and having at least three more knee surgeries. Unlike Bryant, Chipper had been durable. Bryant was somewhat injury prone before having to patrol MLB's largest left field in its thinnest air. It was always going to be a disaster. The Rockies can only wish for those mediocre ZiPS Projections these days.
Incoming Clippers legacy of failure video
I think they did it because they couldn't re-sign Trevor Story.
Tree, could you do a video of the Brewers?? I’m a huge fan of your channel and wished you could cover the Brew Crew, even though you are a pirates fan.
Still waiting for The Trade: Russell Wilson to the Broncos
As a Giants fan, I remember the Giants didn't bring back KB because they thought his swing wouldn't age well. Then, that article where KB openly admitted to not looking at the Rockies' Minor League prospects and taking the money killed any sympathy I had. The dude chose a payday over playing meaningful games. To each their own.
You have to remember Scott Boras is his agent. He refused a $225 million deal with the cubs beforehand. Bryant was likely listening to what Boras wanted which was just more money since he wanted to make as much money off of Bryant as he could.
Boras doesn’t care about fit, he cares about cash and Bryant didn’t try to think about what he might’ve wanted to do
@@MustacheDLuffythen that just means that between listening to Boras and him not looking at the Rockies' prospect list, KB doesn't care about due diligence, either.
@@uncreative5766 he probably just wanted to have Boras do all the work for him and boras really only cares about money he can make
Back at it again with the Ace Combat 3 OST. Very nice.
Hell yeah brother, most underrated AC game (the japanese version)
Yo tree if you ever decide to do a hour plus video just know you will be the GOAT in my eyes. Your content is always fire even about sports I don’t keep up with! Drop sum a hour plus long and I’ll have entertainment for days!
His legacy of failure for the Leafs is around 45 minutes.
@@moonjelly5 Ik I’ve seen it but I’m looking for tree to just get lost in a topic ya know, let him deep dive sum crazy off the wall and just give us the soothing sounds of his commentary for a hour plus
I’m a Cubs fan and I still wear my Bryant jersey. Having said that, I was shocked he just didn’t stay with SF and they really wanted to keep him. I doubt the $ wouldn’t have been an issue either.
I still can't believe the Rockies didn't get Matt Liberatore on that deal
Bryant was MASSIVELY overrated even back when the Cubs won the WS. Just marshmallow empty stats while choking in clutch situations
The Mets are the kings of the bad deal. They bought back Canò from the Mariners. He had been sucking ass for nearly a decade when they ponied up a king’s ransom for an old, beat up slugger with a known drug problem. And what happened next was not just predictable, but kinda expected. He wasn’t getting better, why would anyone think he was clean?
Allows Story to depart; that turned out to be the right thing. Arenado has been productive for the Cardinals; not in two Playoff appearances. But then the Monforts turn around and give a shit-ton to a guy who was fizzling in Frisco?
Pretty sure Bryant knew what he was doing: sign for the most in an amenable city and rest on his laurels...literally.
Very timely with this video with Colorado DFA'ing Montero today.
KB is lucky he's in Colorado, any larger market he' be getting eviscerated by media
"the biggest bar in denver" lmao. shout out the rockpile tickets to bar seat pipeline
Javier Baez and the Tigers spend their regards
The Baez trade made some sense at the time.
The team had a great second half and looked ready to finally break out of the rebuild and we needed a shortstop. Then 2022 happened and everything went bad. At least it got Avila fired.
spend their regards?
If my Cubs didn't trade their core three players of Bryant, Rizzo, and Baez they wouldn't have all had such a massive collapse!
While I'm more a Seattle fan, living in Colorado, I loved Arenado, and hate the owners. I was curious about the Bryant signing, and... yeah, wonder what the point of it all was. The few times I've gone to see the Rockies since bringing him on... I've seen him play absolutely no times at all.
I really feel for the guy. He deserves better.
Montero just got DFA'ed after this video dropped.
I remember there was an article in the athletic immediately after he signed. It said "the Rockies are paying Kris Bryant to be a better last place team" damn how spot on that's been lol