The Trade: Herschel Walker to the Vikings

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @austinemms9772
    @austinemms9772 Год назад +1249

    The important thing about the Cowboys dynasty is that they had to scout the right guys and develop them properly. Just another great example that if drafting was easy, Mel Kiper Jr. would be good at it.

    • @heribertoruizjr.5296
      @heribertoruizjr.5296 Год назад +5

      True the best team in the 90s well apart the smelly whiners

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 Год назад +33

      That is true many people seem to forget that Even if you have a bunch of picks, you still need to have a keen eye for talent

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +15

      You have to develop the players you draft.
      Picks give you an opportunity to improve, but you still need to execute.

    • @andrewgrove1691
      @andrewgrove1691 Год назад +4

      @@heribertoruizjr.5296 cause of jerry Jones ego

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +23

      Mel Kiper Jr works for the media and not an NFL Franchise for very good reasons.

  • @LordyT34
    @LordyT34 Год назад +510

    The Trade sounds like a series with a lot of potential!

    • @Kaiden-9226
      @Kaiden-9226 Год назад +12

      It remind me of what KTO does

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Год назад +12

      Can't wait for the Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis for a bunch of prospects which didn't do that much for the Marlins.

    • @maxwasson2000
      @maxwasson2000 Год назад +14

      Nets edition

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 Год назад +8

      Eric Lindros

    • @nathanielduncan4692
      @nathanielduncan4692 Год назад +4

      @@maxwasson2000 that will be great.

  • @michaelreich4827
    @michaelreich4827 Год назад +286

    In 1990, the Cowboys didn't have a 1st round pick because they used it in the 1989 Supplemental Draft on Steve Walsh (after taking Aikman #1). Part of the Walker deal gave Dallas Minnesota's 1st rounder. And who did they take with it? Emmitt. That alone won the trade for the Cowboys.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +18

      Indeed, but it sure was awesome that it didn't stop there lol.

    • @kennyo6582
      @kennyo6582 Год назад +13

      the Minnesota 1st round pick for Walker was the 21st overall pick. Dallas bundled Minnesota's 1st round No. 21 pick and Minnesota's 2nd round pick they also got for Walker in a deal to move up from #21 to # 17. They thought Emmitt would be gone by the 21st pick. They burned two of the Walker picks to get Emmitt, but he was totally worth it.

    • @mjwatts1983
      @mjwatts1983 Год назад +2

      Don’t forget Darren Woodson and let another team tank so they can get Russell Maryland
      Then there was one more piece
      The 49ers were fed up with Charles Haley’s antics. Read “Boys Will Be Boys” for more details

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Год назад +1

      @@mjwatts1983- Woodson was a second round pick but the Cowboys got 13 seasons out of him.

  • @jallison5457
    @jallison5457 Год назад +56

    Jimmy Johnson is a genius. He created a dynasty, Jerry doesn’t have any of those titles without Jimmy”s vision.

  • @zenith2930
    @zenith2930 Год назад +230

    Jimmy Johnson needs more recognition for the 90s monster he made

    • @dollartwentychickentendies
      @dollartwentychickentendies Год назад +58

      Firing him was the dumbest move Jerry ever made, (I mean, thankfully for the rest of us, he did it. But the 'Boys could have wrangled at least one more SB out of that core with Johnson instead of Switzer at the helm.)

    • @zenith2930
      @zenith2930 Год назад +20

      @@dollartwentychickentendies I think if Jimmy was the coach until the wheels fell apart I think they should have gotten realistically 4 Superbowls in a row but I'm not sure if they would have gotten a 5th Superbowl in the 90s

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +30

      By "more," you mean ALL. Because it was ALL him. Jerry's biggest and most important contribution back then was signing off on Jimmy's decisions.

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Год назад +2

      @Tristan unfortunately, his stint in Miami makes Jerry look good now, according to the "experts"

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

      @@djtrankilo231 He coached New Orleans?

  • @aceslater5265
    @aceslater5265 Год назад +10

    The Jerry Burns clip at the end was the perfect cherry on top.

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 10 месяцев назад +1

      Even as a Packers fan I respect Uncle Burnsie. RIP

  • @mikeobrien19
    @mikeobrien19 Год назад +242

    I remember suggesting you making a video on the Herschel Walker trade. Even though as a Vikings fan this hurts to see I am happy that newer and younger fans understand the original "bad trade" granted even then Herschel going to the Vikings was considered a slam dunk at the time I would argue that even then I would have still called it a bad trade for the Vikings.

    • @winddmmy
      @winddmmy Год назад +3

      it the viking being the jets

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +2

      "Bad trade?" Not from our perspective. 😎

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад +1

      The LoF was the perfect appetizer

    • @jroggs85
      @jroggs85 Год назад +2

      It was always a great trade for Dallas and I cannot even begin to comprehend how anyone could have not seen that at the time. (What's the point of keeping an individual maxed-out-value player on a team struggling to win ANY games at all?)
      As for Minnesota? Hindsight makes the trade look godawful, and there's no getting around the fact that they were sacrificing their future on a short term gamble. But it WAS a gamble with a chance of paying off in the form of championship contention for the next few seasons. I'd still call it a pretty bad trade as throwing away your future development for a temporary shot in the arm - especially on a single player in a sport with dozens of players per team - is a guaranteed eventual loss with a chancy upside, but evaluating the trade in the context of when it was made, it wasn't QUITE as stupid as its present day reputation would have you believe.

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules Год назад +2

      The Cowboys were awful and gave up their best player. That's how it would have been seen at the time. Teams did not take the draft seriously at the time. Jerry Jones was the first to do so and it paid dividends.

  • @RuZe_Tynuch02
    @RuZe_Tynuch02 Год назад +369

    And that’s how the 90’s Cowboys Dynasty happened Thanks to the Minnesota Vikings. 👍🏻🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @kendall4245
      @kendall4245 Год назад +53

      Freaking purple incarnation of satan

    • @newname9064
      @newname9064 Год назад +3

      Yep

    • @UHOH_415
      @UHOH_415 Год назад +11

      @@kendall4245I understood that reference

    • @Kaiden-9226
      @Kaiden-9226 Год назад +13

      But the cowboys will have to watch vhs taps to relive it again

    • @jollygrapefruit786
      @jollygrapefruit786 Год назад +2

      They should really just sell the entire franchise it's such a joke

  • @R2M_Productions
    @R2M_Productions Год назад +64

    There’s an interesting part of this story that was uncovered recently. Jimmy Johnson actually nearly traded Michael Irvin to the Raiders, but Al Davis flat out told him over the phone “you need Michael Irvin”. What would have happened if they went through with this and Irvin became a Raider?

    • @EastCoastMikeP
      @EastCoastMikeP Год назад +20

      Imagine if Al Davis hadn't been feeling charitable that day. The Cowboys dynasty of the 90s might never have happened, and the Raiders would've had Tim Brown on one side of the field and Michael Irvin on the other.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +5

      We’d have had Tim Brown and Michael Irvin on one team. That’s a great duo.

    • @connorrivers995
      @connorrivers995 4 месяца назад

      @@EastCoastMikeP The Raiders would've likely won the Super Bowl in 1993.

  • @mudman619
    @mudman619 Год назад +30

    I remember all that well. It was a big trade at the time, kinda like the Ricky Williams trade later on. Tree is correct: if the Vikings had won a Super Bowl, we all would've seen this differently. That's the things with big trades, you don't really know until later on if they were busts. You can't blame the Vikings for taking a swing - bc you never know. Same with the Niners trading up for Lance. These NFL teams are under a lot of pressure to win - so they have to take swings. Sometimes they hit a home run, sometimes they strike out, but they will always stand in the box ready to swing. Same with this current Bears-Panthers trade. Who really knows if that was a "fleecing." This time last season, everyone was saying the Broncos fleeced the Seahawks - how did that turn out? lol.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад +3

      Along with Stafford Goff trade sure eff those picks, they did win a title
      But look at how it worked out

    • @budwyzer77
      @budwyzer77 Год назад +4

      @@aceassn716 The best thing about trading with the Lions is knowing they won't embarrass you by winning the Super Bowl with your picks and players.

  • @leevilduck
    @leevilduck Год назад +52

    You know it's gonna be fun when Tree pulls up with a nice story time

  • @MrWaifuTaker
    @MrWaifuTaker Год назад +178

    You should do more historical videos like this, the Vikings can't seem to catch a break at all.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +20

      As I like to call them: The most accomplished team with no actual titles.

    • @schwanbox
      @schwanbox Год назад +15

      ​@FortyNights we actually are.we have the highest win percentage of teams without a super bowl and we even have a win percentage higher than a few super bowl winners

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +8

      @@schwanbox I did an NFL historical analysis to try and find what teams were the best in each regular season statistically.
      The Vikings came out on top four times (1969, 1970, 1988, and 1998).

    • @mitchellb4551
      @mitchellb4551 Год назад +2

      yea they are always great! they tend to up tick during the summer without the NFL eating all his time so stay tuned

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад +1

      Maybe the story of Warren Moon?

  • @ethanfarrell8080
    @ethanfarrell8080 Год назад +33

    Would love to see more videos like this about some of the most iconic trades in sports history. (As a hockey fan the Gretzky, Roy and Lindros trades (could be part of a Flyers legacy of failure video) come to mind) love the historical videos!

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад +3

      Flyers can't be a legacy of failure as they have 2 Stanley Cups and were the first of the '67 expansion to do so(no other of that expansion won until the Penguins did it in 1991). But I often wonder if the Flyers handled the early 90's drafts differently. In 1990 if they drafted Jagr instead of Ricci then draft Forsberg in 1991 like they did and never made the trade. Imagine a Forsberg/Jagr/LeClair line(if they still make that trade).

    • @ethanfarrell8080
      @ethanfarrell8080 Год назад +1

      @@Rockhound6165 yes that is a good point. The entire landscape of the nhl in the 90s could have been so different.
      That is very true regarding the flyers 2 cups. I was thinking of the video he made about the maple leafs as reference (they have won 13). But the moniker of failure applies much more to them then the flyers.
      Unfortunately, if any nhl team is suited for a legacy of failure video it would be my Canucks

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад +2

      @@ethanfarrell8080 Canucks, Coyotes, Sabers

    • @ethanfarrell8080
      @ethanfarrell8080 Год назад +1

      @@Rockhound6165 excellent point. I think those are the teams with the most interesting stories when it comes to failing (the sharks as well)

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад +2

      @@ethanfarrell8080 the Sabers haven't been in the playoffs since 2011. That's amazing. Even the Coyotes have made the playoffs in that time.

  • @jackmiller-johnston8689
    @jackmiller-johnston8689 Год назад +50

    Mike Lynn got absolutely fleeced. Imagine listening in to that phone call between him and Jimmy Johnson when he was told, the Cowboys were going to cut all the traded former Vikes...yikes, that's utterly ruthless

    • @davidkuhlman8004
      @davidkuhlman8004 Год назад +1

      a draft pick for each player cut too.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 9 месяцев назад

      You just know JJ had a raging hardon about 45 seconds into that call. Dude knew exactly what he was going to do.

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 8 месяцев назад +1

      He should've realized something was up when Jimmy asked for conditional draft picks to EACH PLAYER. Lynn was stupid and naive.

  • @rjakobi
    @rjakobi Год назад +3

    This is indeed a juicy video. I remember getting Hershel Walker's autograph at NAS Pearl Harbor when he came down for the Pro Bowl in 1989. Still have it after all of those years. Mom was a Texan and was heartbroken when Landry was fired, but once Dallas started getting the dynasty, she got over it.

  • @MrSchimpf
    @MrSchimpf Год назад +30

    I love Tree's videos for their detail and his passion, but can we also give it to him for his period-appropriate backing music choices? My god, I get chills listening to these old production songs that were deep 80s and 90s cuts you just heard everywhere. Love that last one especially!

  • @Ironbite4
    @Ironbite4 4 месяца назад +4

    You know, knowing what we now know, Tree's opening line of "trade that can't be properly assessed for years" is just hilariously ironic. Just something that made me giggle.

  • @SkolneyVikings
    @SkolneyVikings Год назад +48

    Even if Walker lived up to the deal, the Vikings still weren't getting past the 49ers, or the other NFC powers of that era.
    Part of the reason the Vikings rebounded fairly quickly by '92 was because they did find a really good running back: Terry Allen

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 Год назад +1

      Who ended up going to Washington. MN didn't get a real running back until Robert Smith.

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 4 месяца назад

      @@Tyrunner0097and Smith retired in his prime

  • @MKISports
    @MKISports Год назад +11

    That's a surprising video for UTree.
    More of this one, brother!

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 Год назад +3

    Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one FOREVER

  • @frozennorth3426
    @frozennorth3426 Год назад +7

    Tree, Thanks for including the legendary Jerry Burns presser at the end :)

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

      Ah yes, Jerry Burns says like 15 f bombs in one press conference defending his coordinator.

    • @marioaustin9312
      @marioaustin9312 Год назад

      Jerry wouldn't survive today's sports media

  • @kangarooswild
    @kangarooswild Год назад +8

    the sheer brilliance by the Cowboys once Jimmy Johnson took over as de facto GM and the rest was history🏆

  • @Bassman1985
    @Bassman1985 Год назад +4

    Issiac Holt actually moved in right across the street from me in Plano in the summer of 1990. He gave me a ball signed by the entire 1991 team. It sits proudly in a glass case atop the bookcase in my living room to this day.

  • @mattyice9535
    @mattyice9535 Год назад +2

    My father still gets a look of utter despair and almost disbelief when The Trade comes up. He grew up a Vikings fan. To quote my dad, "They didn't even run an I-Back offense!!!!" I don't think he'll ever really get over it.

  • @davidbuswa9425
    @davidbuswa9425 Год назад +6

    I remember that trade well as a Cowboy fan. But I had faith in Jimmy Johnson to pick good college players from those drafts picks that the Dallas had accumulated because he had recently coached in College and knew who were the best college players were. Jimmy was the sole reason for the Cowboys' dynasty in the 90's, It was definitely not jerry Jones

  • @fabriziolorenzo2392
    @fabriziolorenzo2392 Год назад +2

    Tree’s historical videos are ELITE

  • @gjenglund
    @gjenglund Год назад +1

    Love the include of the Jerry Burns rant. It's a classic that doesn't get played enough.

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 10 месяцев назад +4

    “It’s a trade that can’t be properly assessed for years.”
    *Literally* *a* *few* *months* *later*
    “This has been one of the worst trade deals in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.”

  • @Chimidway88
    @Chimidway88 Год назад +8

    I never knew the Browns were the original team Dallas wanted to trade Walker to. Great video Tree!!!

  • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
    @Uncultured_Barbarian465 Год назад +48

    Of course Walker had to run all over the Packers that first game. I had Vikings fans rubbing it in my face, and they were crowing about how they were going to go to the Super Bowl. How quickly that all changed ... And I loved Jerry Burns' post game press conferences. I'm not sure, but I think the rant you showed at the end of the video was the one where he said something like, "One of the best O Coordinators in the league, and they put his picture up on the big screen, and you fuckers boo him!" A local radio station erven came up with a bit, Coach Uncle Burnsy's Fairy Tales, where someone did an impression of Jerry Burns telling fairy tales to kids, and they had to bleep out all the profanity. Ah, fun times.

    • @tomschloesser4787
      @tomschloesser4787 Год назад +4

      You're right about the Fairy tales. It was Jeff Passolt who, at the time, was a sports broadcaster for Twin Cities local TV affiliate, KARE channel 11. He was a frequent guest on 92.5 KQRS Morning Show radio with host Tom Bernard. Passolt did a great impression of Burnsie. It was 30 years ago and I can still recite it word for word. It was called, "Burnsie's Bedtime Stories."

    • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
      @Uncultured_Barbarian465 Год назад +4

      @@tomschloesser4787 They also did a bit for Jerry Burns: Live at the Guthrie. One of the lines was, "Romeo, Romeo ... Where the fuck are you?" Man, I loved classic KQ 92. They also did the "Dennis Green Rhythm And Rap Up" that could be fun at times.

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 Год назад +2

      Some things never change with Vikings fans. They sure talk a lot for a fanbase that's won NOTHING. Heck, even Bears fans have 1985 to gloat about (granted that's ALL they talk about, but Brewers fans still can't stop talking about 1982, so all's fair.)

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 Год назад +98

    Fun fact for you: In his last year in Dallas in 1988, Herschel Walker received an MVP vote while playing for a last place team.
    Something that wouldn’t happen again until Justin Fields this past season.
    The 1988 Vikings before trading for Walker were actually a pretty darn good team.
    In particular their pass defense which allowed the lowest passer rating of the 1980’s, and 25 points less than the average of their opponents.
    But Herschel Walker wasn’t worth the draft picks they gave Dallas, and while a better running game is useful (and if you look at the running backs they had in 88, they were pretty good for touchdowns but not efficient), it wouldn’t take the team to the next level like they thought it could.
    Looking at Minnesota in the first half of the 90’s in particular, they probably could have used those picks, and it’s definitely a terrible trade, and one of the worst in NFL history for what the other team ended up getting.

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад

      Oh, two RBs

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

      Walker, and while Fields is a qB, he does run a good bit

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад +3

      Justin Fields had suspect blocking and had no choice but to run

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

      @@aceassn716 What position should Chicago take with their first pick in your opinion?

  • @austinfletchermusic
    @austinfletchermusic Год назад +12

    Seeing this as a younghead is very weird, especially I'm from Georgia, where Herschel has ... shall we say, other history.
    But this is a fascinating watch once again.

    • @aceroy9195
      @aceroy9195 Год назад +1

      Nah, you're just young. He's still a football legend. I know people on both sides of the political aisle talk about how much they enjoyed watching him play at UGA.
      Secondly, fuck the NFL dude was diagnosed with a concussion following the domestic violence episodes in the aughts. He was another victim of the NFL machine and their attempt to cover up concussions to keep players playing.
      As for his decision to go into politics. Well, there I have no idea. He isn't the most politically savvy nor is the most firebrand. He's really just super milquetoast. He would have never stood a chance at winning if his opponent was a real politician. But nowadays, you're more likely to find grifters and celebrities as politicians than actual political persons.

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Год назад

      @aceroy9195 Oh, I don't doubt his football prowess. Nor do I have high praise for the NFL's injury protocol.
      Just as an electoral politics nerd, I can't help but wonder if a different trade might have prevented this outcome for him somehow.

    • @aceroy9195
      @aceroy9195 Год назад

      @Austin Fletcher I doubt it, in all honesty if he was going against a real politician. His senate run would look like an even bigger joke.
      And by "real" politician I mean anyone who had a stint in local or state politics. Osoff and Warnock winning is a lot more of an outlier considering their previous failed attempts.

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Год назад +2

      @aceroy9195 Georgia is just a weird state politically right now to be honest.
      Sports, though, you can expect one thing from us, and we know what it is.

  • @lizd.8655
    @lizd.8655 Год назад +6

    Fun fact: $140 million in 1989 is worth almost $340 million today. I was 10 when Herschel was traded and I fondly remember those golden years. Say what you will, I was raised as a Dallas fan and I will die as one!

  • @matrat911
    @matrat911 Год назад +4

    Love the Jerry Burns tirade! One of the best coach tirades ever! Try to find the whole thing uncensored, it’s some of the best entertainment you will have the pleasure of watching.

  • @dodostramus8767
    @dodostramus8767 Год назад +18

    I think the Tunsil trade has the potential to be the modern day version of this trade. Depends on if the team can capitalize but man the Dolphins have capitalized on that trade

    • @youstinklolgotakeashower
      @youstinklolgotakeashower Год назад +7

      Ehhhhhhh it's debatable. Sure the Texans gave up a ton of picks and cap space but Tunsil hasn't disappointed in the slightest. He's arguably the best tackle in the entire league now and will undoubtedly be a cornerstone of the Texans franchise for years to come...that is, if they don't flip him to a desperate team for even more picks.

    • @kenjiii728
      @kenjiii728 Год назад

      The only way this could work is if the Dolphins win the super bowl

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter Год назад

      @@kenjiii728 Well HOPEFULLY at least

    • @davidkuhlman8004
      @davidkuhlman8004 Год назад

      Saints trade by far

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад

      You mean turning him into Joe Thomas?

  • @donaldschumaker
    @donaldschumaker 11 месяцев назад

    Best summary of "The Trade" I've seen to date Tree. BTW I had forgotten that he ended up in Philly. Thanks for the great video.

  • @jacobgarnham5971
    @jacobgarnham5971 Год назад +1

    Damn you make football history compelling. Keep it up, big fan from Australia.

  • @doubledown0411
    @doubledown0411 Год назад +7

    If you haven't read it, I highly recommend the Jeff Perlman book about the 90s Cowboys "Boys will be Boys." It covers this in great detail and all the other crazy shit around the Cowboys. It's amazing.

    • @budwyzer77
      @budwyzer77 Год назад

      Wait is this the book with the Charles Haley chapter titled "The Last Naked Warrior"? Dude was an absolute madman.
      Seriously, who jerks off during team meetings and cuts holes in the roofs of teammates cars so he can pee into them?

  • @nickdageek3083
    @nickdageek3083 Год назад

    Tree, I was finally happy this off-season as a Vikings fan, you didn't have to upload this.

  • @B.Launders
    @B.Launders Год назад +4

    This can be a neat mini series like “The Greatest Game.” There’s plenty of deals in the NHL like this that can be examined in a similar style.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад

      Wayne Gretzky trade
      Eric Lindross trade that still causing effects 30yrs later

  • @fergizzo
    @fergizzo Год назад +1

    I love that jerry burns rant at the end

  • @Tyrunner0097
    @Tyrunner0097 11 месяцев назад

    What helped make Jimmy Johnson such a great scout and drafter was that he selected many players he either directly coached or coached against when he was at Miami. He had a great memory of college players he knew would work in Dallas:
    Troy Aikman played at Oklahoma before transferring to UCLA.
    Emmitt Smith played at Florida
    Russell Maryland played for Jimmy at Miami
    Alvin Harper from Tennesee

  • @hughjaass3787
    @hughjaass3787 Год назад

    Gr8 video. As usual. You however, did not mention one of HSs best player in school history at all. 1991 1st Rd. Pick, Alvin "Freaky Hop" Harper. WR Univ Tenn. He was 5 years ahead of me, but my Father was his HS Coach. Fun fact- He set a HS Record in the High Jump, jumping 7'2"!!! I was literally standing next to the Landing Pad. One of the most impressive human feats I've witnessed in my 52yrs on Earth. Anyhow, keep up the great vids.

  • @Chaos0310
    @Chaos0310 Год назад

    The fact you out Jet Force Gemini music in the background?I absolutely love it!!

  • @smokieinthepot489
    @smokieinthepot489 Год назад +10

    What's crazy to me is the micro management here it's on point that's a lot harder then people would think it to be all those extra picks after the trade.

  • @SouthernSkeptic
    @SouthernSkeptic Год назад +20

    The thing about this trade is a couple years later the Vikings hired Denny Green as head coach and gm. And the 90s went pretty decent for them. Imagine if Green had all those picks at the beginning of his tenure. They made the playoffs more often than not in the decade including the 98 team that should've won the SB.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +2

      Who knows?
      I wouldn’t be surprised if they improved.
      However, the question becomes if they are too good to have the pick they did in the late teens that became Randy Moss? And if so, does another team take him before they could.
      As for the 98 team, they were very good, but probably could have used a better run defense.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +1

      Yes, and Green's Vikings dominated the Cowboys in the late 90's.

    • @SouthernSkeptic
      @SouthernSkeptic Год назад

      @@fortynights1513 They still had a pretty late pick when they got Moss anyways. I think he was 21 or 22? Remember he fell because he got caught smoking weed and being a dick to people.

    • @SouthernSkeptic
      @SouthernSkeptic Год назад +2

      @@jaylucien669 When they thew 5 yard passes to Cris Carter because Prime Time couldn't tackle and CC would just run him over for 5 more yards. lol

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Год назад +2

      The thing that still pisses me off about the 98 team is that the NFL was robbed of potentially an all time great Superbowl between Denver and Minnesota. They were clearly both incredible teams. Atlanta pooped all over the field and gave us a dud instead.

  • @senseofjustice0218
    @senseofjustice0218 Год назад +4

    Really enjoyed this video. Always thought the Herschel Walker trade was a fascinating one, and your analysis was extremely thorough on both teams before and after the trade.
    If I could suggest a similar idea for a video, I would love to see you analyze the trade of Eric Lindros from Quebec to Philadelphia. There was lots of stuff to unpack on that trade, and it changed the trajectory of Quebec from pushover to dynasty.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад

      30years lster that trade still has an impact on teams

    • @Yeen125
      @Yeen125 Год назад

      At the same time, Lindros refusing to play for Quebec would be a major catalyst for the team moving to Denver a few years later.

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад

      Even refusing to play for the Leafs only to go there 15 years later

  • @jasonblessing2951
    @jasonblessing2951 Год назад +3

    Mr. Tree! It's time! You must review your 2018 draft video and give your thoughts on those players now!

  • @TheLoneGamr
    @TheLoneGamr Год назад +8

    Best case scenario with the Panthers trading up and the Bears sticking with Fields is it both works out for them. Panthers get a franchise QB and the Bears get to add some offensive pieces for Fields and hopefully some big dudes to protect him for more that 3 seconds.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      Bears probably thought that whoever they would take wouldn’t be worth a first overall pick, and that it would be better to trade down and take a first rounder a few spots lower.
      In particular because they already have a young quarterback.

    • @musclecarenjoyer
      @musclecarenjoyer Год назад +1

      @@fortynights1513 jalen carter is looking horrific right now after showing up over weight and underperforming reminds me of Albert haynesworth and his work ethic let’s hope I’m wrong but he looks like he doesn’t have that dog in him the passion for greatness but I wouldn’t complain if he fell to us at 9 😅

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад

      Sadly Fields had about 2seconds before there were 2 rushers in his face, he had to run for his life
      Very similar to what josh allen had to do to survive his first 2seasons

  • @fredaaron762
    @fredaaron762 Год назад +12

    Actually, I won the Herschel Walker trade. I worked with a group of Buffalo Bills fans in the mid-90s who all went to University of Buffalo. They invited me to their Super Bowl XXVIII Party. Since I was the only non-Bills fan, I was happen to take everyone's bets. I walked out with a stack of cash. Needless to say, when the Bills and Cowboys met in a rematch in Super Bowl XXIX, I was not invited back to the party.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад

      Nice but it was XXVII&XXVIII
      Dallas fan haha

  • @Prussiankings
    @Prussiankings Год назад +3

    Seeing Tree talk about the Bears: Nice
    Realizing it’s a cautionary tale: Uh oh

  • @seanragsdale5636
    @seanragsdale5636 Год назад +5

    We need more of these vids. Maybe do deeper dives into every single bad Leafs trade? I know a bunch of them were touched on in that legacy of failure vid but who doesn’t like giving the Leafs grief?

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 Год назад +3

    The power of The Trade is boundless.

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 Год назад +1

    The end of this video makes me yearn for a series of videos that are nothing but coach tirades. I never even know of the one in this video!

  • @darknightmike10yearsago
    @darknightmike10yearsago Год назад

    5:30 Jet Force Gemini! Oh man, I miss this game. What an epic soundtrack.

  • @trainguy7276
    @trainguy7276 Год назад +1

    You missed the best part of that Jerry Burns tirade:
    Reporter: Did you guys win today?
    Burns: I think we did, yeah.

  • @johnenigma8506
    @johnenigma8506 Год назад +7

    2:48 "It's always sad when the game passes one by"
    As a Patriots fan, I believe I'm starting to see that with Bill Belicheck now. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being an albatross on that team in the near future.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 Год назад +2

      The guy is a football genius but not in the same way most other great coaches are; he was simultaneously the best head coach and the best general manager in the league for the best part of two decades. Honestly, it's ridiculous what he could achieve all the while surrounding himself with generally less than stellar coordinators (though his position coaches have consistently been top notch over the years).
      I sincerely believe he can make a comeback. His teams in the past few years have been fighting for play off spots deep in the season even though they lost arguably the best qb ever (dollar for dollar, it's not even close) and are in the same division as Buffalo. I think New England is really not so far away from becoming a fixture of the post season again.
      I wouldn't bet on a superbowl win because that's just not happening unless you have a generational talent at qb anymore and that's basically the luck of the draw in the draft, but I don't think Bill is finished.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      @@garak55 I'm not sure what he should be considered better at: Being a head coach, or being a GM? Obviously great at both, but still.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 Год назад

      ​@@fortynights1513 For me it's because he's such a legendary gm that he can coach so good. I think out of every coach in the league he is the one who understands his own roster more than anyone. He knows precisely what his team can do and he doesn't tie his ego to a specific playstyle or tactics. He never tries to fit a square peg in a round hole. Once or twice a season, he does something crazy like that time in the play offs where he decided to run iso out of I-formation with cordarell paterson running behind a fullback. I think any other coach would have tried to keep to the normal play book in spite of injuries not allowing it and they would have lost, his patriots went to the afc championship like this it was amazing. I think it was last season when he just decided to not throw the ball when playing buffalo under a rainstorm. Won that game also just playing Navy offense.
      He understands what his teams can do and can't do and he will always gameplan around what they can do instead of forcing them into his system. Honestly as a x&o's nerd, it's awesome to watch.

    • @penguinsfan251
      @penguinsfan251 Год назад

      Bill Belicik was no genius when he coached the Cleveland Browns. One winning season in five years and one playoff win.
      The "genius" came about because of Tom Brady. It also helped that the Patriots' division opponents were pathetic for almost all of the time Brady was there. Belicik beat the Mike Tomlin coached Steelers like a drum.
      He does not have Brady anymore and there are no Bradys on the horizon.

  • @jacobmaher1149
    @jacobmaher1149 Год назад

    Never thought this would be a video but love it tree

  • @tersecleric2
    @tersecleric2 Год назад +1

    Good vid tree!

  • @donphilp7511
    @donphilp7511 Год назад

    Your stuff continues to be fantastic please keep it up

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 Год назад +3

    The Broncos trade was a fleece
    For the Seahawks.
    I said it at the time. I was like "oh look, Herschell Walker 2.0"

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      Seahawks absolutely won that trade.
      But I wouldn’t argue it’s quite as bad in one sense. At least you can say Denver traded for someone who played quarterback.
      Obviously the league was different in the 80’s, but one running back used in tandem probably won’t help you win as much as a quarterback could.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Год назад

      Well they would have to win 3titles in 4years then??
      Because that ended up as the outcome due to the trade

  • @pyschob61
    @pyschob61 Год назад

    Great video as always tree, that russel wilson drive by at the end wasn’t necessary but good video😂

  • @exzidan
    @exzidan Год назад +4

    The trade of all time

  • @fearless1024
    @fearless1024 Год назад

    11:42 the best part about that Jerry Burns rant is it was after a Vikings *victory* over the Rams.

  • @saj8
    @saj8 Год назад +3

    Jerry Jones had to pay two years of Landry's three year contract in order to give him the boot, which was the deal that was done under Schramm. Schramm, himself, was instructed under Bum Bright to give Landry three one year contracts, but Schramm disregarded Bright.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +2

      And in return for the blatant disrespect, Bright took the low-ball offer from the hillbilly oil-tycoon, who assured him he'd fire both men after taking over ownership of the team. Which, of course he did.

  • @brianshissler3263
    @brianshissler3263 Год назад +1

    9:10. Was that shoe flying off? Did Walker finish that run without a shoe?

  • @jamesjones715
    @jamesjones715 Год назад

    @8:38. As a steelers fan, I couldn't agree more!

  • @fan.of.feet2310
    @fan.of.feet2310 Год назад +3

    5:24 HOW DO YOU DROP THAT PASS!?!?!?!?

  • @frozennorth3426
    @frozennorth3426 Год назад +5

    the moment Jimmy Johnson invented the modern “tank” by executing what will forever be the unbeatably best version of it, with The Trade
    the Vikings were sooooo stupid to sign that contract, and I say this as a Vikings fan
    you can’t behold it and not find it beautiful

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад

      Respect. I know that's not an easy thing to say. It sure wouldn't be for me if the roles were reversed.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Год назад

      I mean yea hindsight is a bitch there's an alternative universe where the Cowboys did jack with those trades and the Vikings end up beating the Falcons in that NFC Championship Game and went on to beat the Broncos in that superbowl

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 There's also an alternate universe where the Cowboys go undefeated and win the Super Bowl every year.

  • @Eibarwoman
    @Eibarwoman Год назад +4

    Now that it's rumored Stafford's body might be unable to continue, it was one Super Bowl, a half of an injured season... and hope the Lions don't pick right.

  • @raineob4996
    @raineob4996 Год назад

    Love this deep dive! Would love to see similar features on, say, the Wayne Gretzky trade or the Ricky Williams trade or something.

  • @mattstakeontheancients7594
    @mattstakeontheancients7594 Год назад +3

    As a Cowboys fan, I love Hershel but him getting traded was the best thing that happened to us. If a certain owner wouldn’t have wanted to be the man we might could have won more SBs with Jimmy at the helm.

    • @EnanoPancracio
      @EnanoPancracio Год назад

      There's a very good chance they get the 1 seed and face the 9ers at home, and if they beat the 9ers they certainly become the first team with 3 straight SB wins. Maybe even 4

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад

      Jimmy didn't do well elsewhere, just like Jerry couldn't hire a proper replacement

    • @mattstakeontheancients7594
      @mattstakeontheancients7594 Год назад

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza just 2 larger than life personalities/egos. Would have loved a few more years together but happy they seem to be on good terms now.

  • @M_11_m41n
    @M_11_m41n Год назад +8

    Why?...... Why must you bring one of the most haunting of my favorite team's history? Cheering for this franchise eternal cold day in hell, but I'll still keep supporting them. I know, a Vikings fan in Houston is a weird situation.

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Год назад

      Not as bad as a Cowboy's fan in Wisconsin.

    • @u4yk
      @u4yk Год назад

      Sounds like my ex-wife when we were married.

    • @allthingsgaming6
      @allthingsgaming6 Год назад +2

      @@XemnasO01X Not as bad as a Cowboys fan from literally anywhere who was born after the Jimmy Johnson era and has an unearned arrogance

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Год назад +1

      @@allthingsgaming6 oh I know that we're mediocre. Until some changes happen, we ain't getting anywhere unless luck swings our way, pissed away two good season imo. I'll still back my 'Boys Winning or losing, just wish the losing wasn't in the divisional round.

  • @Damian_1989
    @Damian_1989 Год назад

    5:30 of all thje nostalgia-heavy music you use, i was NOT expecting Jet Force Gemini

  • @nathaniellevesque2782
    @nathaniellevesque2782 Год назад +4

    You should do videos on the Wayne Gretzky and Eric Lindross trades

  • @0rionknight636
    @0rionknight636 Год назад

    Blessings for the upload, love u tree

  • @Seanpatf66
    @Seanpatf66 Год назад +3

    The 1990 pick they got from Minnesota was traded up to get Emmit Smith.

  • @jovar.3649
    @jovar.3649 Год назад +2

    And people have the nerve to say that my niners trading for CMC was the modern equivalent of this trade

  • @maxwasson2000
    @maxwasson2000 Год назад +1

    Brooklyn Nets did the same thing in the early 2010s, trading every future asset they have for the twilight years of Kevin Garett, Paul Pierce, and Jason Terry.

  • @thecentralscrutinizer304
    @thecentralscrutinizer304 Год назад +1

    Not a Dallas fan not a Vikings fan but this video was awesome. I love late 80s and 90s NFL, my heyday.

  • @GrndCruz
    @GrndCruz Год назад +3

    Hm, I would love to see you do a deep dive into the 2004 ALCS. That was an incredibly legendary moment in MLB history. Many others covered it, but I haven't heard it ino your own words.

    • @thekoniverse2704
      @thekoniverse2704 Год назад +6

      The only seven-game reverse sweep in MLB history. WHich is incredibly fitting considering how that series basically ended the curse, and the two franchises involved have had their fortunes drastically changed since.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

      @@thekoniverse2704 Yep, New York has had one World Series appearance (fortunately a win for their sake) since 2004, and I believe three or four other appearances in the LCS in what’s now been 18 years since.

    • @justinturley7071
      @justinturley7071 Год назад +1

      @@fortynights1513 the Yankees really weren’t the best team in the 21st century. Only 2 World Series Championships, 2000 and 2009, they were the better team in the 2001 World Series, but got beat by another good team, Arizona Diamondbacks, they really should’ve won in 2003, but they were also tired from playing a 7 game series against the Red Sox, finally they won the World Series in 2009, but it was more of a relief more than anything. And they haven’t ever since then.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      @@justinturley7071 I don't mean to imply that they have been. But from a Mariners fan, I'd say the Yankees are above average compared to the rest of the MLB. In addition to the five LCS I referenced, they also have the title in 2000, and the other two World Series appearances.
      Only two titles, and I'm sure fans of their team feel underwhelmed considering how much they spend, and their general reputation (the past decade and a half won't compare to earlier generations of their team let's face it). But they've still arguably done more than at least half the teams in the league since 2000.

  • @rowdycmoore
    @rowdycmoore Год назад +2

    Craziest thing is this isn't even the only time a team from North Texas fleeced another team desperate to get a ring. Two words: Mark Teixeria.

  • @AutoArtemAuto
    @AutoArtemAuto 9 месяцев назад +3

    11:38 It's time for that vid. They just released Russell and now have an 85 million dollar dead cap hit.

  • @linsithebe7080
    @linsithebe7080 Год назад

    its fascinating to learn more business negations via here than compared to my university.

  • @addisonclapp6903
    @addisonclapp6903 Год назад +1

    aged like wine

  • @Newbobdole
    @Newbobdole Год назад

    Tree, I’m going to ADORE the retrospective you give to Joe Gibbs one day

  • @belacickekl7579
    @belacickekl7579 Год назад

    I love the SimCity 3000 soundtrack at 9:20!

  • @mastertroll1780
    @mastertroll1780 Год назад

    Love these m8 :D

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 Год назад +1

    What I find funny about this is that Darrin Nelson didn't even wanna be a Viking when the Vikings drafted him and he refused to leave them for the Cowboys when the original trade went down. At least he got to return to his native California.

  • @89DrFunk
    @89DrFunk Год назад

    One thing that the historic trade did was to set the foundation of the Jimmy Johnson value chart system that all NFL teams use now. The thing that's wild that I didn't know was that Jimmy and Jerry got the players and leverage them to picks. That part I didn't know which was brilliant and used it to trade up in the draft if they needed too. Jimmy changed the draft and trading game in getting picks.

  • @JaredGoofball
    @JaredGoofball Год назад +3

    In 20 years, Tree will upload a video called “The Trade: Russell Wilson to the Broncos”
    But it might not be about the Broncos if Sean Payton can fix him

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz Год назад +1

    Since like you said it's too early to judge the Bears and Panthers trading the #1 pick, how about judging more big trades from the past that have finally played out, but didn't quite have a clear cut winner.
    Khalil Mack from the Raiders to the Bears.
    Laremy Tunsil from the Dolphins to the Texans.
    Ricky Williams for the Saints entire draft class.
    I'm even curious now how the Eric Dickerson 1987 trade played out. It involved three teams, with the Rams getting a boatload of picks. What became if it all?

  • @johnlewis8934
    @johnlewis8934 Год назад

    Love these football history videos tree

  • @dsl32
    @dsl32 Год назад +1

    Great video Tree, I should hate the Vickings for turning The Cowboys into a Dynasty

  • @georgeinfante1106
    @georgeinfante1106 Год назад +1

    The greatest trade in Cowboys history that change the Cowboys into football dynasty in 1990s

  • @Jon_the_Wizard
    @Jon_the_Wizard Год назад +2

    Jimmy Johnston is probably why NFL teams still look to college coaches for potential coaches.

  • @joshuaremo922
    @joshuaremo922 Год назад +10

    And on 2022 the Minnesota Timberwolves traded 5 1st round picks for Rudy Gobert from the Utah Jazz. If the Jazz become a dynasty in the future you know who to blame.

    • @michaelhession2105
      @michaelhession2105 Год назад +1

      Plus the GM that pulled it off also pulled of the Pierce/Garnett Trade

    • @allthingsgaming6
      @allthingsgaming6 Год назад +1

      (While knowing absolutely no context for the trade or the NBA in general)
      Wouldn’t being “one player away” be MUCH more common in basketball where there’s only 5 guys on the court at any given time?
      Of course, 5 first round picks is an insane price to pay in any sport…

    • @joshuaremo922
      @joshuaremo922 Год назад

      @@allthingsgaming6 NBA is infamous for horrible lopsided trades. Getting a pick wrong or trading it away stings even harder compared to the NFL. It’s easier to replace players in the NFL.
      The 80s Cavs were infamous for this. They traded most of their picks and were so inept that the NBA passed rules so they couldn’t ruin themselves again. Players they could’ve drafted with those picks were HoF like James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Karl Malone, and many more

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      @@joshuaremo922 Imagine how many picks some players would go for if the Stepien rule didn’t exist.

  • @honkhonkler7732
    @honkhonkler7732 Год назад +1

    Issiac Holt was the only one of those Minnesota players that ended up making any signification contribution to the first superbowl team.

  • @arachnofiend2859
    @arachnofiend2859 Год назад +3

    Didn't know that the Cowboys actually deceived the Vikings into trading away those picks. Hell of a feint making it seem like you were trading for a bunch of backups and latching on the "conditional" draft picks you really want.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Год назад +4

      It's Lynn's fault for not seeing it coming and underestimating Jimmy Johnson's confidence and ability to build in the draft. Before that trade, the rest of the league looked at Jimmy and Jerry as nothing but two redneck jokes. Turns out they were only half right.

  • @BroadswordMedia
    @BroadswordMedia Год назад

    It's very interesting to know how the perspective of that trade was completely different than how things actually turned out. You'd think with the fact that the cowboys were able to get such an amazing deal under Jerry Jones, they would have figured out how to do that again since then and win more Super bowls but I'm thankful they haven't.