Well, Brock was dead cold at that time though too. They brought him back after years away and in MMA to a huge pop, and the first thing they did? Had him lose to Cena. Then they had him lose to HHH and CM Punk. Suddenly this monster they brought back was completely dead. Beating the Undertaker - while a disappointing moment overall - turned Brock into the hottest commodity in the business whenever he shows up now.
ShadowAngel okay I agree about they should’ve gave somebody else a massive push with ending the streak but they didn’t. Frankly I feel like ending the streak was 1 of those things the wwe shouldn’t have done bc it was special like the attitude era.
It certainly shouldn't have been Brock who ended it as at that point he was well over. Should have either been Shawn in 2010 or Roman in 2017 because he needed the push, matter of fact that WM33 match, if it wasn't Shawn, would have been the perfect exit.
If you recall, I think Brock's record was 2-2 in WWE when he broke the streak (losses to Cena & HHH). Breaking the streak was WWE hitting the reset button and trying to salvage Brock after their awful booking had damaged him.
I can see that from both sides. On one hand, breaking the streak would’ve made from the terrible booking Brock was receiving since his return, but on the other hand, despite the booking prior to WM 30, Brock was still over and didn’t need to break the streak.
I agree plus Vince books his Mania main events a year in advance & Brock was the only one he thought of as far as Roman beating & becoming an instant star by doing so. Boy was he wrong in hindsight, thank goodness for Seth mitb in the back pocket
I would rather see a rising star(lesnar wasn't a rising star in 2014, that b1ch had already mainevented a wrestlemania 11yrs ago) loose their push by loosing to the undertaker than see the undertaker loose at wrestlemania. During the last 6 yrs of the streak, it became bigger than the world title. It became the second mainevent. Undertaker posing in the ring after a grueling match defending the streak was the 1 gurranteed goosebumps moment you look forward to when you hear the words wrestlemania. If vince wanted undertaker to be castrated in front of a live audience, callaway would have said yes. He's a simp more than a loyal friend. And then he lost 2nd time to reigns, he killed undertaker when that happenned. And then kept on tarnishing his legacy every year, then went on having *THE 2 WORST* matches of his carrer for saudi blood money and even made shawn come out of retirement affecting his legacy as well. All that just to have your retirement match in front of no audience. Taker either should have a)Never lost b)Lost and retired c)Lost to someone not brock lesnar. Lesnar is one of the most respected people backstage regardless of what we think of that phony. Austin & Vince back in 2002 new the very moment he walked in with those juiced traps that everything on the roster is gonna be sacrificed without hesitation to build this guy up. That's the carrer of lesnar in terms of how much he has given and how much has been fed to him. Nobody is gonna say no to a free wagyu steak. He became the new shawn micheals vince drooled for when he was on top of ufc. Heck vince sent callaway to UFC 121 assuming lesnar would have won, would be in a good mood and then taker would present him a bag of money and his streak to convince him to comeback. But lesnar lost that night so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock to feed on. If it weren't for the backstage respect most of the top stars and the company has for lesnar, he wouldn't have come 1 mile close to becoming the 2 move 5 match a yr phony he is today.
I think it’s a little silly that the execs take it more serious with Brock’s records like that to make such bold decisions. When they could just write Brock to win more at mania 🤦🏽♂️. Ending the streak was just a bad decision, since undertaker continued to wrestle years later and his persona lost that pizazz he had with every Wrestlemania match he had.
Vic Crown randy when he faced taker at WM I thought he was going to beat him. But tbh no one really deserved to end it especially anybody on the wwe roster right now.
The streak should not have ended. Vine should have fired himself after that one. Or whole ever thought it was a good idea. I was barely watching the show to begin with. That ended it for sure.
It was Vince. Apparently Undertaker showed up and Vince told him, on the day of wrestlemania, that he was going to loose to Lesnar. So Taker was basically in the same boat of shock as the fans.
Since Randy Orton didn't wanna end the streak, Brock was the only other wrestler where it was totally believable to end the streak. Going into the match, I was thinking *Undertaker might lose this one...Brock was UFC champion he's gonna whoop his ass* but I was going for Taker. I had the same reaction as the fans who were in attendance though
As a fan in my 30s i was expecting Lesner to break the streak. But for some reason it fell flat to me. And i felt the aftermath and rematches were kinda a bummer.
The reason old school wrestling guys write better stories for wrestling than people who are "writers" is as simple as it could be, understanding. People who love wrestling, understand why I love wrestling. People with a Passion for Wrestling understand my passion for wrestling. People who do not love, or are passionate about something, simply cannot grasp what would captivate someone that was.
After 7 years, I'm not sure how to answer this question. At this point, The Streak ending has become a "who cares?" kinda deal. Taker's legacy is still pretty damn strong as evidenced by the past year's Last Ride documentary and such. Brock Lesnar's legacy has only grown in the last 7 years, perhaps at the expense of the young full-time wrestlers, but it did and WM 30 added to that A LOT. The fact WWE didn't capitalize on breaking the Streak by using it to make a new star is an incredible waste, but personally I'm glad it didn't put too big of a dent in Taker's legacy. The Streak ending is just a moment in history at this point, it's pro-wrestling trivia. In 2013 and prior to WM 30, it looked like the biggest deal ever. Now, it doesn't. Personally, I think Taker should've retired after WM 30, regardless of the match quality instead of trying to chase the perfect retirement match. That way, even the weak WM 30 match against Brock would gain more mystique, more importance over the years, more poignance even.
That's the worst thing about it. Putting aside the fact that Lesnar was literally rock bottom on the list of people who needed a push, the fact that it ended with such a dud that nobody likes has retroactively made The Streak less special. New fans won't ever understand how magical it was because now, like you said, it's just another piece of old trivia no one cares much for or is all that impressed by, just like say Sammartino's 8 year title run. They won't ever fully grasp how amazing those Shawn Michaels matches were, or how heartstopping it was for Taker to kick out of the Superkick/Pedigree combo. All that has been tarnished by one horrible decision, decades of booking ruined. It's just awful.
I was in the arena that night. Bottom bowl of the stands (not the floor) about 17 rows up. People were pissed off and some even left before the main event. They weren't made at Taker or Brock. They were mad at Vince. The reason why I mention where I sat was because the people in that section were family oriented people with younger kids. The people actually on the floor were the hard core fans that don't mind paying a ton to be there. To see families get up and leave it was shocking. It was wasn't a ton of people, but it was enough to notice they weren't going for pop corn. The ones I saw leave didn't return. By the main event that feeling went away momentarily. As I walked out of the Superdome people were talking about being upset about Taker losing more so than talking about the feel moment that just happened in the Main Event.
If Orton didn’t take the chance to end the streak, they should have never ended it. But kudos to Undertaker for always being a team player. Asked McMahon if he was sure that’s what he wanted and Vince said yes, so Taker respected it.
The trouble with that is look at the undertaker health issue's, how many more surgeries does the man need to have to keep the streak going. If not someone like Brock lesnar then who would the people like to see put down the undertaker. If the streak was still unbroken it's not possible that the fans would let taker retire and would expect him to defend it year in year out. That was what the fans turned up to wrestlemainia to see the streak and the hellacious matches the man had.
So, after a while of not being upset over Undertaker's Streak ending, I was fine with it, what I wasn't fine with was him losing to Roman Reigns, just for the fact that it made Brock Lesnar's moment less special after. I wish they would have just kept the 1 loss to Lesnar instead of what they did.
This is what continued to ruin Undertakers persona too. But after the loss to Brock, Taker was still wrestling for years after and any Mania match he had after the streak ending, didn’t have that same amount of stakes to it anymore.
Brock didn’t want to end it and had an argument with Vince about it. Undertaker should of retired 25-0 at Wrestlemania. I still can’t believe it ended to this day it’s hard to accept and move on.
I let out one of the biggest WTF yells I’ve ever said In my entire life seeing The Undertaker’s streak end. I watched it with my brother and we grew up being HUGE Taker fans and wow. I’ll never forget that moment.
I wasn't watching wrestling as much around that time but I heard about the match and thought they wouldn't let Brock end the streak he was already over so he didn't need the win and always thought they were going to let The Deadman retire undefeated at Wrestlemania
@@heveyweightheveyweight5399 stupid? He would’ve just stopped wrestling. Went out on his high horse like few have. How can you call it stupid when he followed up for what? Another 5 years of embarrassing matches
I suspect that Brock wasn't supposed to break the streak. The Undertaker got a concussion during the match and says he doesn't remember it. I think it's very possible that he lost by accident and they are covering it up. I can't prove that, but it does make sense... or maybe i'm still in denial 6 years later. lol.
Undertaker should NEVER have been beaten. He'd given so damn much to the Industry he deserved to go out unbeaten. He's should of gone out forever a wrestlemania winner the only man ever to be unbeaten. You've got him beaten by Lesner a man that's had to put over a man like Seth fucking rollins with the shittiest stomp finishing on par with the people's elbow as the shit test finisher around.
That year, Bray Wyatt got buried losing to Cena at mania and it took years to repair his character to get him over as a legitimate threat again. Just to play devils advocate, imagine if Vince had any faith in bray and let him beat the streak here...
Bray Wyatt would actually be someone who could really build off ending The Streak. I'm of the mindset that it should have never ended, but if it had to happen then passing the torch to the next big supernatural threat character who actually could use a push would be the best way to do it. Like, they already were successful in building The Fiend as a credible threat even after burying him years prior, imagine how exponentially stronger he would come off as if he had been the streak ender? Hell they could even keep the legacy of The Streak going as an attraction with The Fiend taking it up. All this to say, WWE made the worst possible decision and now the Streak has basically been tarnished forever instead of being something to celebrate.
I always felt like brock didn't need to beat the steak. Personally I didn't see him any differently after, he was always a bad ass who destroyed everyone. Should have never best the streak or gave it to someone who really needed it
i think Shawn Michaels should have ended the streak he was just the perfect superstar to do it but it was sad it ended but you know somewhere along the line the streak had to end every streak cant live on andre the giant went 15 years undefeated and then lost to hulk hogan goldberg went year undefeated and lost to kevin nash every streak has to end one day we knew it would come but not like this i just think there should have been a better person to end it beacuse it was so big to big for brock Lesnar to do it so Shawn Michaels was the best pick for me or sting but thats just my opinion
people said the streak should have ended in wm 30 because the fans were all sitting when lesnar hit the 3rd f5 meaning they thought taker would kick out so the streak was getting boring. but i dont think thats true, i think it was because the build up and storyline for the match was horrible. up to mania 29 everyone thought taker could actually lose and loved the match.
I think The Undertaker should have remained undefeated until I passed away, but since he did not I wish Taker beat Lesnar first then next year get him but yeah
Giving “back” to the business... Would have been, The streak should not have ended.. After Mark’s ( Undertaker ) living, eating, sleeping, breathing WWE. He should have retired undefeated at Mania. It can be argued, Taker means more to WWE then Hogan, Rock, Austin. He is Mr. WWE
the only way that would have made any sense is if roman knocked off brock the year following. but the whole stupid daniel bryan crap ruined it. personally i believe the streak never should have ended. if one man is bigger than the business it’s the undertaker
It should of never ended especially with Brock Lesnar who did not need it. Sure there was a lot of pissed people me being one of them. But from the reactions it was more sad then pissed. People reacted like he died. Like they lost a love one. I remember after the show grown guys were on their knees crying. It didn't make me as much sad as mad because I already didn't like Brock Lesnar. I remember texting about 3 Months before it happened that Brock Lesnar gets everything handed to him just because the way he looks. And that night proved my point. Someone who didn't like me saying that texted me back saying you were right. He was given the right to end the streak. I get why The Undertaker had mixed feelings about it. He knew his time was getting short and he could not put on the same matches he did a few years before. Yet as long as he had the streak the fans pressured him to outdo what he did the year before. Obviously he was listening to the wrong fans. But at the same time it took forever to get the streak.
Lance Storm laid out perfectly how the SHOULD have done, were they so insistant on ending the streak. Undertaker should have declared that he would keep going until someone beat him. That would have prepared the fans that it was coming at some point. Lance should be booking someone.
He offered it to Kane, Kane was the one he wanted to turn the torch to but Kane respected him too much to break the streak. With that they should have took the streak to retirement.
I see alot of people saying they wasted the streak on Brock but who at that time could of ended the streak convincingly brock or cena but me even thinking about it cena even cheating couldn't beat him convincingly brock was the right choice.
The tribal chief with the current title streak should have been the one to end the Streak, as people would assume that taker is there to ens the title run, almost a Streak vs Streak match
You know a lot of people keep saying that Brock shouldn't have ended the streak because he doesn't care about the business, but what do you say about guys like Cena, HHH, Vince himself? Those guys did everything in their power to bury the business with the countless number of guys they've buried over the years and continue to do so. I don't see HHH doing everything in his power to keep his NXT boys from getting buried once they go to the main roster. Brock was the perfect person to end the streak. He has a legit fighting back ground, he's a big physical guy, why wouldn't anyone wanted him to end the streak? Bray Wyatt could've been another good choice the problem at that time though he was getting buried.
Goes to show,NO ONE is above the buisness...Yes it hurt my feelings to see him lose,but its a way of giving back..its easy to say it didnt work now,but at the time it was opening up new possibilities for Brock..Hindsight is 20/20.
I love J.R.'s story line, but if I were in the booking committee with him, I'd argue to put Cena over and actually turn him heel. Now you've given that rub to Super Cena and whoever beats him down the line, probably a year from now at Mania, gets a HUGE rub from the fans. You've got a super heel and a super baby face. In the time line presented, I'd argue that this would have been around the time Daniel Bryan was gaining steam. He goes over Cena at Mania the next year and business is booming. You have a guy everyone loves and a guy everyone hates and a story line that can continue on for another 6 months to a year if you play your cards right.
Also I hated the streak ending do to Brock and right there wrestling to me was dead at least wwe, once I found out Vince was the one that wanted it done I knew right there that he had lost touch of wrestling and he even said if the Ultimate deletion match that Matt Hardy wanted to do was a success then he has lost touch and it was a success and now he can’t come to terms that he has and won’t step down and let his son in law take over.
Should’ve been Roman. He would’ve had MASSIVE heat. When he beat him at 33 all you marks were crying night after mania. Imagine if he broke the streak.
I heard abput it on ESPN radio that night. Called the old man and told him. We both had the same reaction. "I'm done". He passed away about a year later. Still having never watched another match. At this point I have not watched another match live. With no intention of ever watching another. Being said. I still wouldn't have watched but, they could have got more from that angle. Like Heyman had been saying. Now the 1 was bigger than the 21. So Lesnar should have become obsessed with making sure that the 1 never became a 2. Maybe even against Heymans wishes. He's got a title match later and here he is getting involved with takers match. But from what I understand Roman beat him at mania since. So not only is the streak gone. But what you got from ending the streak is gone.
It was a bad idea, they killed the chicken hoping to get more gold immediately instead of getting a little bit every year like they did till wm 29. It needed to stay intact they basically ruined WrestleMania payout for the company itself, there are people that basically watched wm for the streak now that it's done wm is just like any other PPV now nothing unique about it.
The streak was the only thing that Undertaker had going for him. He was never a top star on the Hogan, Austin, Rock level, never a huge draw, but the streak was something special that he had and once it was gone he was just a tall, boring old guy in a long coat.
The difference between Undertaker and the likes of Hogan, Austin and Rock is Undertaker didn’t need to be champion in order to be an attraction. Of course the same can almost be said about Rock. Undertaker was always a huge draw whether he was champion or not.
I didn't want it to end but I told everyone that if anyone were to do it, it had to be HHH. Calaway even brought it up during an episode of Raw. Instead of losing to someone who was his equal he loses to a muscle bound meathead who only knows how to do two damn moves? It was depressing and there was nothing exciting about it.
Brock was a right man to break streak Brock always does well in big matches beating rock at summer slam 2002 beating Cena at summer slam 2014 and now he will dethrone Roman soon
He shoulda beat the breaks off undertaker just smashed em off then 1 2 he sits up and crowd goes nuts he choke slams broke and wins! Crowd happy as hell!
When the streak ended I tuned out of WWE for about 6 years that shit got me pissed and sad asf how the hell you throw away something that took 2 decades to build?
Vince wanted Brock to beat UNDERTAKER. It made no sense. Brock didn't need that push. And even though there was people angry. They even have people's reactions at their homes. They were breaking things. Brock was a part timer. But the look you got most was confusion and sadness. Grown guys were crying.
Ya I agree that would have been a good undertaker ending bc at wm or anywhere u have taker on that card no matter what’s the main event what champions Ship taker name was bigger then Them all hell u have interview with triple h where he said damn when taker goes out and do what taker dose he like I don’t no how we can top that and it’s a title match u no. That’s a lot right there taker name is big and bless he’s heart for giveing he’s mind body and soul for so long. He earn everthing that’s comeing to him bc damn taker is just taker that’s it lol there’s only one
Personally I think the undertaker put Austin and Brock over all too often. His ministry of darkness days it weakened his demeanor a bit and I think the WWE should of let the undertaker have that accolade for his loyalty to the company. It would definitely be justified I think
@no name It was totally unexpected, which is all I want as a fan. Don't be predictable and Brock is a scary human lol makes sense he broke it. But having him lose twice, took away from Brock's win. In my opinion
I agree with undertaker reigns would of made more sense to end it especially since the shield attacked him before wm 30 and he never got his retribution for that otherwise no one besides Kane makes storyline sense I won’t lie takers streak ending is right up there with Austin turning heel at wrestlemania 17 as something that made me stop watching for a while
Have all of you got an amnesia? Like do you remember just how he was hated. Roman Reigns was getting the same type of hate that Baron Corbin gets now and it's that go away Heat but bigger.
I always thought it should of been Cena breaking the streak with Cena turning heel in the match and cheating to win or something along those lines so you would get DOUBLE the payoff
Nah, that Cena idea is not good. Breaking it was a mistake, even now there's no one worthy enough to do it. I always thought that with age Taker would just show up once a year for WM and squash a guy and with with those cinematic matches now it's a real possibility. However, given what WWE is now, would that streak mean anything?
Don’t get me wrong I hated it, but it made it feel like it was ...real? Like that wasn’t supposed to happen but I think we all agree it could’ve been booked better
The only person that should of and had to beat the streak was Brock lesnar As his a legit wrestler/mma fighter. Wouldn't make sense for anyone else besides Brock lesnar to beat the streak. 💯
I would rather see a rising star(lesnar wasn't a rising star in 2014, that b1ch had already mainevented a wrestlemania 11yrs ago) loose their push by loosing to the undertaker than see the undertaker loose at wrestlemania. During the last 6 yrs of the streak, it became bigger than the world title. It became the second mainevent. Undertaker posing in the ring after a grueling match defending the streak was the 1 gurranteed goosebumps moment you look forward to when you hear the words wrestlemania. If vince wanted undertaker to be castrated in front of a live audience, callaway would have said yes. He's a simp more than a loyal friend. And then he lost 2nd time to reigns, he killed undertaker when that happenned. And then kept on tarnishing his legacy every year, then went on having *THE 2 WORST* matches of his carrer for saudi blood money and even made shawn come out of retirement affecting his legacy as well. All that just to have your retirement match in front of no audience. Taker either should have a)Never lost b)Lost and retired c)Lost to someone not brock lesnar. Lesnar is one of the most respected people backstage regardless of what we think of that phony. Austin & Vince back in 2002 new the very moment he walked in with those juiced traps that everything on the roster is gonna be sacrificed without hesitation to build this guy up. That's the career of lesnar in terms of how much he has given and how much has been fed to him. Nobody is gonna say no to a free wagyu steak. He became the new shawn micheals that vince drooled for when he was on top of ufc. Heck vince even sent callaway to UFC 121 assuming lesnar would have won, would be in a good mood and then taker would present him a bag of money and his streak to convince him to comeback. That's how big of fetish he had for lesnar. But lesnar lost 12 so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock to feed on. If it weren't for the backstage respect most of the top stars and the company has for lesnar, he wouldn't have come 1 mile close to becoming the 2 move 5 match a yr phony he is today. so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock
People were crying that night. It did feel like a bit of my childhood died that night.
Undertaker has admitted he didn’t think Brock needed it.
And Brock has said before that he didn’t want to end the streak but Vince insisted that it happen
Well, Brock was dead cold at that time though too. They brought him back after years away and in MMA to a huge pop, and the first thing they did? Had him lose to Cena. Then they had him lose to HHH and CM Punk. Suddenly this monster they brought back was completely dead. Beating the Undertaker - while a disappointing moment overall - turned Brock into the hottest commodity in the business whenever he shows up now.
@@saltedllama2759 He beat CM Punk.
But you're right, he had no momentum at that point.
He's the only guy that would have been believable doing this. Reigns shouldn't have done it, they should have left it as one loss.
@@blurplebear8573 agreed. They had the opportunity to do that with Micheals or HHH, but Brock was the Next Best Thing.
Undertaker should have never lost his streak point blank period
Yeah he should have beat Sting, best Brock... and barley beat Cena.. and retired like JR says here.
Agree 100%
You’re supposed to lose your last match.
That booking idea from JR is straight fire
It really is a great idea. A million times better than what they did.
That idea was stupid
@@thesupervisor3270it's little more than an outline but it would've left Taker with a much better legacy
Cena needed 2 turn heel
Biggest mistake wwe made. The last great thing they had going for them
J.R. just described the Bret Hart preferred finish to his '97 Survivor Series match...
But Taker wasn't the champ, and there was no WCW to threaten Vince
But Hart wasn’t retiring, he went to the competition. It’s not the same.
well Bret shouldn't have screwed himself then
They should’ve never ended the streak!!!
ShadowAngel okay I agree about they should’ve gave somebody else a massive push with ending the streak but they didn’t. Frankly I feel like ending the streak was 1 of those things the wwe shouldn’t have done bc it was special like the attitude era.
ShadowAngel if Shawn micheals would’ve ended the streak back in 2010 or whenever that would’ve been the best way to ever end it
It certainly shouldn't have been Brock who ended it as at that point he was well over. Should have either been Shawn in 2010 or Roman in 2017 because he needed the push, matter of fact that WM33 match, if it wasn't Shawn, would have been the perfect exit.
Blame Taker
@ShadowAngel if you dont understand the importance of the streak you are clearly not a wrestling fan
If you recall, I think Brock's record was 2-2 in WWE when he broke the streak (losses to Cena & HHH). Breaking the streak was WWE hitting the reset button and trying to salvage Brock after their awful booking had damaged him.
I can see that from both sides. On one hand, breaking the streak would’ve made from the terrible booking Brock was receiving since his return, but on the other hand, despite the booking prior to WM 30, Brock was still over and didn’t need to break the streak.
I agree plus Vince books his Mania main events a year in advance & Brock was the only one he thought of as far as Roman beating & becoming an instant star by doing so. Boy was he wrong in hindsight, thank goodness for Seth mitb in the back pocket
Makes total sense, and I see no reason to disagree.
I would rather see a rising star(lesnar wasn't a rising star in 2014, that b1ch had already mainevented a wrestlemania 11yrs ago) loose their push by loosing to the undertaker than see the undertaker loose at wrestlemania. During the last 6 yrs of the streak, it became bigger than the world title. It became the second mainevent. Undertaker posing in the ring after a grueling match defending the streak was the 1 gurranteed goosebumps moment you look forward to when you hear the words wrestlemania. If vince wanted undertaker to be castrated in front of a live audience, callaway would have said yes. He's a simp more than a loyal friend. And then he lost 2nd time to reigns, he killed undertaker when that happenned. And then kept on tarnishing his legacy every year, then went on having *THE 2 WORST* matches of his carrer for saudi blood money and even made shawn come out of retirement affecting his legacy as well. All that just to have your retirement match in front of no audience. Taker either should have
a)Never lost
b)Lost and retired
c)Lost to someone not brock lesnar.
Lesnar is one of the most respected people backstage regardless of what we think of that phony. Austin & Vince back in 2002 new the very moment he walked in with those juiced traps that everything on the roster is gonna be sacrificed without hesitation to build this guy up. That's the carrer of lesnar in terms of how much he has given and how much has been fed to him. Nobody is gonna say no to a free wagyu steak. He became the new shawn micheals vince drooled for when he was on top of ufc. Heck vince sent callaway to UFC 121 assuming lesnar would have won, would be in a good mood and then taker would present him a bag of money and his streak to convince him to comeback. But lesnar lost that night so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock to feed on. If it weren't for the backstage respect most of the top stars and the company has for lesnar, he wouldn't have come 1 mile close to becoming the 2 move 5 match a yr phony he is today.
I think it’s a little silly that the execs take it more serious with Brock’s records like that to make such bold decisions. When they could just write Brock to win more at mania 🤦🏽♂️.
Ending the streak was just a bad decision, since undertaker continued to wrestle years later and his persona lost that pizazz he had with every Wrestlemania match he had.
What a waste to end the streak for someone who didn't need the push in the first place.
Vic Crown randy when he faced taker at WM I thought he was going to beat him. But tbh no one really deserved to end it especially anybody on the wwe roster right now.
@@triangleoffense9382taker had always lost 2 Brock anyway it would have meant something 4 Taker 2 finally get his W over Brock
@@theincrediblehulkfan1962O disagree, Taker always lost 2 HBK back n the day
@theincrediblehulkfan1962 really The End of An Era match should of been it 4 all 3. They should of walked n2 the sunset
It’s great to see Jim Cornett giving his opinion like the mature professional legend that he is.
JR’s fanasty booking is gold 💰
6:18 Even Corny had 2 give JR his props 4 that
The streak should not have ended. Vine should have fired himself after that one. Or whole ever thought it was a good idea. I was barely watching the show to begin with. That ended it for sure.
It was Vince. Apparently Undertaker showed up and Vince told him, on the day of wrestlemania, that he was going to loose to Lesnar. So Taker was basically in the same boat of shock as the fans.
I'm late, but the once a year attraction match kept you from watching the weekly shows?
Since Randy Orton didn't wanna end the streak, Brock was the only other wrestler where it was totally believable to end the streak. Going into the match, I was thinking *Undertaker might lose this one...Brock was UFC champion he's gonna whoop his ass* but I was going for Taker. I had the same reaction as the fans who were in attendance though
Taker had already gave Brock the rub during his Big Evil run. I thought it would of been gr8 of Taker finally got his 1
As a fan in my 30s i was expecting Lesner to break the streak. But for some reason it fell flat to me.
And i felt the aftermath and rematches were kinda a bummer.
The reason old school wrestling guys write better stories for wrestling than people who are "writers" is as simple as it could be, understanding. People who love wrestling, understand why I love wrestling. People with a Passion for Wrestling understand my passion for wrestling. People who do not love, or are passionate about something, simply cannot grasp what would captivate someone that was.
They actually understand the business. JR booking was perfection
Jim speaks the truth! He knows best
After 7 years, I'm not sure how to answer this question. At this point, The Streak ending has become a "who cares?" kinda deal. Taker's legacy is still pretty damn strong as evidenced by the past year's Last Ride documentary and such. Brock Lesnar's legacy has only grown in the last 7 years, perhaps at the expense of the young full-time wrestlers, but it did and WM 30 added to that A LOT. The fact WWE didn't capitalize on breaking the Streak by using it to make a new star is an incredible waste, but personally I'm glad it didn't put too big of a dent in Taker's legacy.
The Streak ending is just a moment in history at this point, it's pro-wrestling trivia. In 2013 and prior to WM 30, it looked like the biggest deal ever. Now, it doesn't. Personally, I think Taker should've retired after WM 30, regardless of the match quality instead of trying to chase the perfect retirement match. That way, even the weak WM 30 match against Brock would gain more mystique, more importance over the years, more poignance even.
That's the worst thing about it. Putting aside the fact that Lesnar was literally rock bottom on the list of people who needed a push, the fact that it ended with such a dud that nobody likes has retroactively made The Streak less special. New fans won't ever understand how magical it was because now, like you said, it's just another piece of old trivia no one cares much for or is all that impressed by, just like say Sammartino's 8 year title run. They won't ever fully grasp how amazing those Shawn Michaels matches were, or how heartstopping it was for Taker to kick out of the Superkick/Pedigree combo. All that has been tarnished by one horrible decision, decades of booking ruined. It's just awful.
End of An Era match should of been it. All 3 could of walked n2 the sunset & Taker went out on an absolute classic run
I was in the arena that night. Bottom bowl of the stands (not the floor) about 17 rows up. People were pissed off and some even left before the main event. They weren't made at Taker or Brock. They were mad at Vince. The reason why I mention where I sat was because the people in that section were family oriented people with younger kids. The people actually on the floor were the hard core fans that don't mind paying a ton to be there. To see families get up and leave it was shocking. It was wasn't a ton of people, but it was enough to notice they weren't going for pop corn. The ones I saw leave didn't return. By the main event that feeling went away momentarily. As I walked out of the Superdome people were talking about being upset about Taker losing more so than talking about the feel moment that just happened in the Main Event.
2 me that was the end.The End of An Era match, all 3 should of walked n2 the sunset
If Orton didn’t take the chance to end the streak, they should have never ended it. But kudos to Undertaker for always being a team player. Asked McMahon if he was sure that’s what he wanted and Vince said yes, so Taker respected it.
The streak is what kept Wrestlemania with that certain aura every year wondering who would try to end it
The trouble with that is look at the undertaker health issue's, how many more surgeries does the man need to have to keep the streak going. If not someone like Brock lesnar then who would the people like to see put down the undertaker. If the streak was still unbroken it's not possible that the fans would let taker retire and would expect him to defend it year in year out. That was what the fans turned up to wrestlemainia to see the streak and the hellacious matches the man had.
@@nicholascollins5509 he should of retired at20-0. That's what he should of did
So, after a while of not being upset over Undertaker's Streak ending, I was fine with it, what I wasn't fine with was him losing to Roman Reigns, just for the fact that it made Brock Lesnar's moment less special after. I wish they would have just kept the 1 loss to Lesnar instead of what they did.
This is what continued to ruin Undertakers persona too.
But after the loss to Brock, Taker was still wrestling for years after and any Mania match he had after the streak ending, didn’t have that same amount of stakes to it anymore.
But the truth came out undertaker had a concussion. During the match, he talks about it during the last ride documentary on the wwe app
Vince Mcmahon likes to scew the fans
Brock didn’t want to end it and had an argument with Vince about it. Undertaker should of retired 25-0 at Wrestlemania. I still can’t believe it ended to this day it’s hard to accept and move on.
I let out one of the biggest WTF yells I’ve ever said In my entire life seeing The Undertaker’s streak end. I watched it with my brother and we grew up being HUGE Taker fans and wow. I’ll never forget that moment.
Old footage.... then again, I keep saying 2012 Wrestlemania 28 should have been Undertaker's last run. ✌
Facts made perfect sense him going 20-0 would have been great and maybe against cm punk cause of paul bearer
You never ever take the mask off The Lone Ranger👎
I wasn't watching wrestling as much around that time but I heard about the match and thought they wouldn't let Brock end the streak he was already over so he didn't need the win and always thought they were going to let The Deadman retire undefeated at Wrestlemania
Undertaker should have retired with the streak intact. They should NEVER have ended the streak.
That wouldve been stupid . Taker was old as hell and brock is a legit badass . He deserved to break it especially being a ufc champ
And what happened because the streak ended? Nothing. Nothing changed. Everyone still loves Taker.
@@heveyweightheveyweight5399 stupid? He would’ve just stopped wrestling. Went out on his high horse like few have. How can you call it stupid when he followed up for what? Another 5 years of embarrassing matches
I suspect that Brock wasn't supposed to break the streak. The Undertaker got a concussion during the match and says he doesn't remember it. I think it's very possible that he lost by accident and they are covering it up. I can't prove that, but it does make sense... or maybe i'm still in denial 6 years later. lol.
Maybe the latter lol but from what's been read and from what Taker has said, apparently Vince had made the decision 4 hours before the event started.
Bruh, 21-1 immediately appeared on the screen afterwards. It was planned.
@BigBoss1228 probably due to betting odds
Undertaker should NEVER have been beaten. He'd given so damn much to the Industry he deserved to go out unbeaten. He's should of gone out forever a wrestlemania winner the only man ever to be unbeaten. You've got him beaten by Lesner a man that's had to put over a man like Seth fucking rollins with the shittiest stomp finishing on par with the people's elbow as the shit test finisher around.
That year, Bray Wyatt got buried losing to Cena at mania and it took years to repair his character to get him over as a legitimate threat again. Just to play devils advocate, imagine if Vince had any faith in bray and let him beat the streak here...
Bray Wyatt would actually be someone who could really build off ending The Streak. I'm of the mindset that it should have never ended, but if it had to happen then passing the torch to the next big supernatural threat character who actually could use a push would be the best way to do it. Like, they already were successful in building The Fiend as a credible threat even after burying him years prior, imagine how exponentially stronger he would come off as if he had been the streak ender? Hell they could even keep the legacy of The Streak going as an attraction with The Fiend taking it up. All this to say, WWE made the worst possible decision and now the Streak has basically been tarnished forever instead of being something to celebrate.
I don't think the streak should've ended.
I always felt like brock didn't need to beat the steak. Personally I didn't see him any differently after, he was always a bad ass who destroyed everyone. Should have never best the streak or gave it to someone who really needed it
i think Shawn Michaels should have ended the streak he was just the perfect superstar to do it but it was sad it ended but you know somewhere along the line the streak had to end every streak cant live on andre the giant went 15 years undefeated and then lost to hulk hogan goldberg went year undefeated and lost to kevin nash every streak has to end one day we knew it would come but not like this i just think there should have been a better person to end it beacuse it was so big to big for brock Lesnar to do it so Shawn Michaels was the best pick for me or sting but thats just my opinion
people said the streak should have ended in wm 30 because the fans were all sitting when lesnar hit the 3rd f5 meaning they thought taker would kick out so the streak was getting boring. but i dont think thats true, i think it was because the build up and storyline for the match was horrible. up to mania 29 everyone thought taker could actually lose and loved the match.
6:20 Jim Cornette giving JR his props 4 his booking idea
I think The Undertaker should have remained undefeated until I passed away, but since he did not I wish Taker beat Lesnar first then next year get him but yeah
My problem is Vince had to have Roman beat Undertaker at Wrestlemania as well but no one complains about that
I complain about that, too. Roman winning diminished Brock’s victory with makes ending the streak even dumber.
If HBK and Triple H failed how can anyone else beat it
Giving “back” to the business... Would have been, The streak should not have ended.. After Mark’s ( Undertaker ) living, eating, sleeping, breathing WWE. He should have retired undefeated at Mania. It can be argued, Taker means more to WWE then Hogan, Rock, Austin. He is Mr. WWE
Wasted it with Brock being the one
True lesnar did not need it
the only way that would have made any sense is if roman knocked off brock the year following. but the whole stupid daniel bryan crap ruined it. personally i believe the streak never should have ended. if one man is bigger than the business it’s the undertaker
Should've ended undefeated
someone get this man a time machine
Both edge and orton got offer to end streak they refused to do it out of respect for undertaker
I haven’t watched it since I’m just now catching back up it took me a minute to forgive them for this smh….
It should of never ended especially with Brock Lesnar who did not need it. Sure there was a lot of pissed people me being one of them. But from the reactions it was more sad then pissed. People reacted like he died. Like they lost a love one. I remember after the show grown guys were on their knees crying. It didn't make me as much sad as mad because I already didn't like Brock Lesnar. I remember texting about 3 Months before it happened that Brock Lesnar gets everything handed to him just because the way he looks. And that night proved my point. Someone who didn't like me saying that texted me back saying you were right. He was given the right to end the streak. I get why The Undertaker had mixed feelings about it. He knew his time was getting short and he could not put on the same matches he did a few years before. Yet as long as he had the streak the fans pressured him to outdo what he did the year before. Obviously he was listening to the wrong fans. But at the same time it took forever to get the streak.
I bet the wwe would take it back if they could
It definitely was a mistake. Then letting Roman do it the year after even worse.
It was 3 years later.
The streak was something that you had to make the audience “think” it’s going to end but not to actually end it 😭
Streak ending one way ,
Sting vs Undertaker
As much as I’d have loved that no way Vince let’s a WCW guy, let alone THAT WCW guy do it.
Lance Storm laid out perfectly how the SHOULD have done, were they so insistant on ending the streak.
Undertaker should have declared that he would keep going until someone beat him.
That would have prepared the fans that it was coming at some point.
Lance should be booking someone.
Should've been Kane or The Rock
If be ok with a Kane. He gave Taker not a boost however another breath of being mystical
He offered it to Kane, Kane was the one he wanted to turn the torch to but Kane respected him too much to break the streak. With that they should have took the streak to retirement.
0:08 UNDERSTEAKER
I see alot of people saying they wasted the streak on Brock but who at that time could of ended the streak convincingly brock or cena but me even thinking about it cena even cheating couldn't beat him convincingly brock was the right choice.
The tribal chief with the current title streak should have been the one to end the Streak, as people would assume that taker is there to ens the title run, almost a Streak vs Streak match
JR’s idea was fuckin gold
You know a lot of people keep saying that Brock shouldn't have ended the streak because he doesn't care about the business, but what do you say about guys like Cena, HHH, Vince himself? Those guys did everything in their power to bury the business with the countless number of guys they've buried over the years and continue to do so. I don't see HHH doing everything in his power to keep his NXT boys from getting buried once they go to the main roster. Brock was the perfect person to end the streak. He has a legit fighting back ground, he's a big physical guy, why wouldn't anyone wanted him to end the streak? Bray Wyatt could've been another good choice the problem at that time though he was getting buried.
What happened to his older channel?
Goes to show,NO ONE is above the buisness...Yes it hurt my feelings to see him lose,but its a way of giving back..its easy to say it didnt work now,but at the time it was opening up new possibilities for Brock..Hindsight is 20/20.
I love J.R.'s story line, but if I were in the booking committee with him, I'd argue to put Cena over and actually turn him heel. Now you've given that rub to Super Cena and whoever beats him down the line, probably a year from now at Mania, gets a HUGE rub from the fans. You've got a super heel and a super baby face. In the time line presented, I'd argue that this would have been around the time Daniel Bryan was gaining steam. He goes over Cena at Mania the next year and business is booming. You have a guy everyone loves and a guy everyone hates and a story line that can continue on for another 6 months to a year if you play your cards right.
Glacier should have beaten the streak
Undertaker till this day says it should've been roman to give him a push or bray wyatt so he could be passing the torch
Also I hated the streak ending do to Brock and right there wrestling to me was dead at least wwe, once I found out Vince was the one that wanted it done I knew right there that he had lost touch of wrestling and he even said if the Ultimate deletion match that Matt Hardy wanted to do was a success then he has lost touch and it was a success and now he can’t come to terms that he has and won’t step down and let his son in law take over.
Biggest mistake Wwe made , And the worst person they could haved given it too
Should’ve been Roman. He would’ve had MASSIVE heat. When he beat him at 33 all you marks were crying night after mania. Imagine if he broke the streak.
YESSS!!!
A Lakonophile an arena full of 20k people chanting “F You” to Roman for 20 min. Seems like Heel Heat to me.
I heard abput it on ESPN radio that night. Called the old man and told him. We both had the same reaction. "I'm done". He passed away about a year later. Still having never watched another match. At this point I have not watched another match live. With no intention of ever watching another.
Being said. I still wouldn't have watched but, they could have got more from that angle. Like Heyman had been saying. Now the 1 was bigger than the 21. So Lesnar should have become obsessed with making sure that the 1 never became a 2. Maybe even against Heymans wishes. He's got a title match later and here he is getting involved with takers match. But from what I understand Roman beat him at mania since. So not only is the streak gone. But what you got from ending the streak is gone.
Good comment. It’s cool you and your dad liked wrestling.
Vince had a point. If not brock then who?
That's what he said to taker & taker said ok
The streak should have remained intact, it is what it is🤷🏿♂️
It was a bad idea, they killed the chicken hoping to get more gold immediately instead of getting a little bit every year like they did till wm 29. It needed to stay intact they basically ruined WrestleMania payout for the company itself, there are people that basically watched wm for the streak now that it's done wm is just like any other PPV now nothing unique about it.
Didn't bother me at all
The streak was the only thing that Undertaker had going for him. He was never a top star on the Hogan, Austin, Rock level, never a huge draw, but the streak was something special that he had and once it was gone he was just a tall, boring old guy in a long coat.
The difference between Undertaker and the likes of Hogan, Austin and Rock is Undertaker didn’t need to be champion in order to be an attraction. Of course the same can almost be said about Rock. Undertaker was always a huge draw whether he was champion or not.
@@jayNicks10 Undertaker was never an attraction, so a ridiculous point to make.
I didn't want it to end but I told everyone that if anyone were to do it, it had to be HHH. Calaway even brought it up during an episode of Raw. Instead of losing to someone who was his equal he loses to a muscle bound meathead who only knows how to do two damn moves? It was depressing and there was nothing exciting about it.
And to add insult to injury they had him lose to Roman Reigns
Brock was a right man to break streak Brock always does well in big matches beating rock at summer slam 2002 beating Cena at summer slam 2014 and now he will dethrone Roman soon
Imagine if Vince wud have just let jr book? Bet things wud be better.
He shoulda beat the breaks off undertaker just smashed em off then 1 2 he sits up and crowd goes nuts he choke slams broke and wins! Crowd happy as hell!
When the streak ended I tuned out of WWE for about 6 years that shit got me pissed and sad asf how the hell you throw away something that took 2 decades to build?
Should have had him win it be DQ like this would have been nice
Should really make a note somewhere that uploader is uploading old interviews so people understand none of this content is current
When was this recorded?
2014
Streaks are made to be broken.
It's like everyone forgot wrestling was a work when the streak ended lol.
Holy shit JR has a hard time getting a sentence out these days
Vince wanted Brock to beat UNDERTAKER. It made no sense. Brock didn't need that push. And even though there was people angry. They even have people's reactions at their homes. They were breaking things. Brock was a part timer. But the look you got most was confusion and sadness. Grown guys were crying.
Ya I agree that would have been a good undertaker ending bc at wm or anywhere u have taker on that card no matter what’s the main event what champions Ship taker name was bigger then Them all hell u have interview with triple h where he said damn when taker goes out and do what taker dose he like I don’t no how we can top that and it’s a title match u no. That’s a lot right there taker name is big and bless he’s heart for giveing he’s mind body and soul for so long. He earn everthing that’s comeing to him bc damn taker is just taker that’s it lol there’s only one
Personally I think the undertaker put Austin and Brock over all too often. His ministry of darkness days it weakened his demeanor a bit and I think the WWE should of let the undertaker have that accolade for his loyalty to the company. It would definitely be justified I think
The UNDERRERSTEAKER! -JR
Did JR just used Adam Blampied's idea?
Didn't mind seeing him lose to Brock, seeing him lose twice in 4 years was awful
@no name It was totally unexpected, which is all I want as a fan. Don't be predictable and Brock is a scary human lol makes sense he broke it. But having him lose twice, took away from Brock's win. In my opinion
Don't really like WWE anymore but Randy should have but it shouldn't have happened
It was time to end 'THE STREAK' As an Old School Wrestling fan, it was time. Too predictable. Maybe with someone besides Brock though.
I agree with undertaker reigns would of made more sense to end it especially since the shield attacked him before wm 30 and he never got his retribution for that otherwise no one besides Kane makes storyline sense I won’t lie takers streak ending is right up there with Austin turning heel at wrestlemania 17 as something that made me stop watching for a while
Have all of you got an amnesia? Like do you remember just how he was hated. Roman Reigns was getting the same type of hate that Baron Corbin gets now and it's that go away Heat but bigger.
Oh what could’ve been 😢
I always thought it should of been Cena breaking the streak with Cena turning heel in the match and cheating to win or something along those lines so you would get DOUBLE the payoff
Nah, that Cena idea is not good. Breaking it was a mistake, even now there's no one worthy enough to do it. I always thought that with age Taker would just show up once a year for WM and squash a guy and with with those cinematic matches now it's a real possibility. However, given what WWE is now, would that streak mean anything?
I felt it should've happened but to someone more deserving than Brock Lesnar.
At least it was lessner. But he shoulda retired with the streak! 100%
Don’t get me wrong I hated it, but it made it feel like it was ...real? Like that wasn’t supposed to happen but I think we all agree it could’ve been booked better
I wasn't up for it to begin with , much less having brock to do it , he didnt need it , should've been someone like Seth or Roman.
The only person that should of and had to beat the streak was Brock lesnar As his a legit wrestler/mma fighter. Wouldn't make sense for anyone else besides Brock lesnar to beat the streak. 💯
I would rather see a rising star(lesnar wasn't a rising star in 2014, that b1ch had already mainevented a wrestlemania 11yrs ago) loose their push by loosing to the undertaker than see the undertaker loose at wrestlemania. During the last 6 yrs of the streak, it became bigger than the world title. It became the second mainevent. Undertaker posing in the ring after a grueling match defending the streak was the 1 gurranteed goosebumps moment you look forward to when you hear the words wrestlemania. If vince wanted undertaker to be castrated in front of a live audience, callaway would have said yes. He's a simp more than a loyal friend. And then he lost 2nd time to reigns, he killed undertaker when that happenned. And then kept on tarnishing his legacy every year, then went on having *THE 2 WORST* matches of his carrer for saudi blood money and even made shawn come out of retirement affecting his legacy as well. All that just to have your retirement match in front of no audience. Taker either should have
a)Never lost
b)Lost and retired
c)Lost to someone not brock lesnar.
Lesnar is one of the most respected people backstage regardless of what we think of that phony. Austin & Vince back in 2002 new the very moment he walked in with those juiced traps that everything on the roster is gonna be sacrificed without hesitation to build this guy up. That's the career of lesnar in terms of how much he has given and how much has been fed to him. Nobody is gonna say no to a free wagyu steak. He became the new shawn micheals that vince drooled for when he was on top of ufc. Heck vince even sent callaway to UFC 121 assuming lesnar would have won, would be in a good mood and then taker would present him a bag of money and his streak to convince him to comeback. That's how big of fetish he had for lesnar. But lesnar lost 12 so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock to feed on. If it weren't for the backstage respect most of the top stars and the company has for lesnar, he wouldn't have come 1 mile close to becoming the 2 move 5 match a yr phony he is today. so vince had to wait for 4 more yrs. Vince is still sacrificing everything on the roster for brock