New Battlefield Game has "Most Realistic Destruction In The Industry"
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2024
- Next Battlefield game is said to be creating "The most realistic and exciting destruction effects in the industry. Let's take a look. Tech4Gamers article - tech4gamers.com/next-battlefi... Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.
Игры
Didn’t they hype up destruction in 2042 also
Yes, they did
I don't really remember that being a focus. But it has been a while.
well hopefully they got their sh*t together this time
No.
Maybe
There is a 95% chance that DICE still has no idea what we want and this will be yet another failure. Sure hope I'm wrong but I have no faith in them
No brutal expectations like a scoreboard please.
-DICE
dog will hunt
Maybe what you want is not the same that I want.
@@toscobruto Did you like BF3?
They lost a lot of key people after BFV. This is why they have no idea how to proceed further.
Battlebit has shown what the community wants. Simple classes, destruction, good gunplay and fun proximity chat.
Didn't people stop playing that though. Sad how much graphics matter to people.
@@shredd5705 a lot of people are still playing it. It's concurrent players only reduced because of the new games that were coming at the time. It's not dead.
@@chigstardan7285 That's good. But sadly I think casual masses also care about graphics. I don't really, I always played BF4 and BF1 on low settings even when my system handled max settings easily 100+ fps. Just to see enemy players better, without vegetation and particle effects getting in the way. That's why Battlebit graphics make a lot of sense
No
more like the finals
I just wanna experience something again like battlefield 3
The feeling of the first dlc running towards the main base bullers flying everywhere
I just wanna have that feeling again
Your chasing nostalgia which is impossible to replicate as you get older.
Too much destruction on fps shooter is bad
BF3 didnt haw much "destruction"
But it had awesome gameplay and briliant maps wich worked fine in many game modes
"Destruction" and special effect are just way them to make it look cool and hide bad game desing
@@el3ndir97 I never forget running away from a tank hiding in a house and the tank slowly destroys the house in order to kill me
Dopest memory I have of this game and that’s why I think destruction works so well for war games
I loved BF bad company and BF V was sooo good!
Edit: i meant BF 1 was soo good instead of V even tho i liked that one aswell
We don't need destruction to be "insanely realistic", we just need it to be fun and epic
@@Wermite.U ain't better
Exactly. If not fun, who cares.
Like with The Finals?
@@clay5534yes!
Perfect example, destruction is so much fun in this game, gameplay isn't @clay5534
The finals has the best destruction I have seen in so long, just shows that the old DICE developers really knew what they were doing
I stopped playing bf at no:5. 2042 was terrible, iv tried the finals and your right it really is alot of fun. It's got weighty gunplay and gets your heart going as there's always a chase of sorts on the go. Enjoy.
Yeah, EA doomed Battlefield by not retaining the veteran DICE talent that made BF amazing.
Thing is though its not using new tech, it's using tech from Bad Company, it'll be to intensive on game engines to make brick by brick destruction in a multiplayer game, sure you can go voxel based like Teardown but the game will go run like crap 😂
@@mightymushroom4980 your dead right. I tried teardown and it's pretty fun for a while. Especially when the clock starts 😬 🤭.
@mightymushroom4980 I mean the tech for destruction is still in modern engines like unity, unreal, and frostbite. They just don't program it due to consoles and its hard to balance gameplay around destruction when everyone wants to make a "competitive shooter". You don't even need to have the lo poly look. Teardown and such are low poly because it's easier to run on a variety of systems and it's a style choice, because the time it takes to make realistic looking models, and textures. Which small teams don't want or are unable to spend the time on.
That Bad Company footage made me sad. Thats the game that started me on Battlefield. Such fond memories. I wish they could make a good Bad Company 3. I miss Preston, Sweets, Hagard and Sarge. Just replayed the BC2 campaign the other week and while some of the mechanics have aged poorly in that game the story, characters, and diverse locations were always awesome.
With the recent release of The Finals, we got better destruction and focused gameplay on OBJs and team fights. Meanwhile, Battlebit showed that all players want is a fun game with great fundamentals in a large environment. If DICE could use a combination of both these games to make a new battlefield, it could be one of the best we've seen in a while.
Surprised they didn't call destruction a "legacy feature". Hopefully they give us a scoreboard and squad management at the launch of the next Battlefield too.
and voip.
I still cannot believe there wasn't a score board. That still boggles my mind.
dont underestimate their ability to totally fuck up a franchise. while i liked bf1 and bf5 (eventually) ive given up with the EA overlords thinking they know what a good bf game is. bf2 is what made me fall in love. bad company 2 blew me and all my mates socks off. bf3 was even more epic. bf4 was refined version of bf3. bf1 was DRIPPING of style and atmosphere. then 5 was meh. the 2042 i didnt bother because no teamplay aspect whatsoever.
No kidding! I figured we would’ve at least gotten a Clan Tag system, but wish there was still Platoon features
And commander mode!
One thing is certain, I won't make the same mistake of preordering as I did with 2042
Me neither and that mistake was thanks to Jack
Never preorder. It's never worth it.
Why would you ever preorder a game? You’re literally paying the highest price for the worst version of the game.
NEVER PREORDER
@NoodleAsian bf1 and bf5 were actually good games in comparison. Which makes 2042 feel even worse after playing the game for 2.5hrs (missing my £50 refund on steam 😢)
Came here to write the same exact thing.
I for one hope that they bring back the campaign. I always start with that just to get a feeling for the weapons and unlock some unique weapons aswell. Campaigns are awesome in Battlefield.
Their newest studio,Ridgeline Games,is developing the campaign for the next title.
Campaigns are the worst thing they ever introduced to the series. Now that's all there is to play on some of these games that had their servers shut down. Bot battles is what the original Battlefield games had as single player content and it has made them last to this day. I still have BF1942, BFVietnam, and BF2 installed because of bots and mods.
I really want BF to come back. If they take another 3 years I am down with that. They really need to look at BF3/4 and BC2 and take the best out of it. No clown skins, no fiction, just gritty looking military shooter with vehicles and real locations. ✌🏼
I don't care if it's "realistic." I just want to be able to level nearly every building like we could in Bad Company 2.
But with 64 players. If they do it with 128, the map will be deleted in 5 minutes 🙉
Play the finals, dude!
@@Sp33dGames I'd be happy with even 30/30 if the maps are well made, more players doesn't mean better game. less capture points means more people per capture point. if there were only 3 and each had 10 people go to them, that would still be a 10/10 fire fight in each section. I've played games that are like 5/5 and it still felt like nonstop action and fun.
all making the server bigger does it make it a bigger headache to get the net code right, means the maps have to be bigger to compensate larger player base and therefore a shitload more running to get to an objective. bf2042 flopped on launch because people spent ages running from 1 area to the next and getting killed before or as they got there.
finals works because its small teams, high destruction really needs less players otherwise the whole map is flat in yeah 5 minutes and then its just a snipe feast and vehicle game, also I feel battlefield should have less vehicles, 1 tank per team, 1 AA per team, and like 2-4 jeeps depending on map size. make the tank have to reload so it has to drive back to a loadout point and rearm etc. make a battlefield that operates like an actual battlefield instead of people running around endlessly with no sense of direction.
I want a hybrid BF3/BF4 with the destination of Bad Company 2.
Bfv domination the best mode.. dice deleted ! Why ??
A story as old as time.
Next level destruction to Battlefield’s reputation
I think the timeline here was that Ex-DICE devs left EA during BF 2042 development, which was the main reason destruction effects got minimized severely. That's why The Finals feels so familiar, it's because its actually the Ex DICE devs. So it seems that they're trying to fill that skill gap now since due to their primary staff that used to did that, now works for Embark under the current Embark CEO (who was the ex-DICE CEO) and CCO (who was also ex-DICE CCO)
It is important to note BF4 only had one skyscraper collapsing entirely which was exclusive to one map and it wasn't gameplay destruction, it was an animation event triggered by a button press. Nothing like BC2's dynamically destroyed buildings that completely leveled themselves once all destructible walls were destroyed. That is what we need in a BF game, gameplay, not movie scenes.
It would be destroyed if the players destroyed the supporting pillars of the skyscraper. On other maps you could also destroy every building in the map. Had nothing to do with a "push of a button"
I absolutely agree with you.
@@mikehare2392 you are correct I didn't remember that I thought there was a detonator to trigger the event. The issue is that is the only building that happens to on that map, which takes away from the destruction that BC2 had
Still cool tho
@@VALLANCEGAMING Yeah but you could still almost tear down many of the smaller buildings, or at least leave only the frame up
I hope this turns out to be a good game and they need to. If it turns out to be another 2042 launch then I feel like that would be the end of Battlefield. I honestly just want them to take their time, collect what they need and make an amazing battlefield game again.
The end of battlefield happend on battlefield 2042.
They got alot of time for BF2042, and that's time that suppose to go to more content for BF that they cancel and none of that dev time went into a single player also and yet we got less than BFV release somehow.
Not even more time can help a studio like DICE to make a good BF game for launch.
We shall see.
The sad part is that is how we all felt before 2042 was announced. Then it was announced, and at first impression it seemed they figured it out! ...Well, they didn't. So now we're back at step one of the cycle
Battlefield has been ended, coming from a long time player I hope it never recovers. Never forget, BF2042 was a love letter to the fans. This is the love they believe we deserve.
I don’t care what kind of destruction it is, I just want it to feel like battlefield and be a fun game
I hope so much, that they really got the feedback right this time and work on a BF that pushes destruction / technology tied to the gameplay.
That's what I was asking my friend the other day. Like what happened to their glorified level-lution?
They also lied... they promoted that we could tank launch within one of their first trailers. We could never actually do that all that much. Yes it's not realistic but it's bloody hilarious to see your mate fly across the map rapidly into the abyss. 😂
DICE needs to scale back the size of the maps and increase the ability to interact with the environment. Drop the max player count down to 64 and increase the server tick rate. We need a playable game at launch and not the broken mess that the last several have been.
nothing wrong with large player counts bud
@lithium1770 yeah, when you don't strip away quality features like destruction, balance, scale, and map features, there's nothing wrong with it. But DICE proved that they aren't able to have a player count that high without decreasing the quality of their game.
We need 1000+ person maps
Lol crazy @@AwakenedAvocado
And a server browser
I'd be happy with a ''re-master'' of BF3/BF4 merged together at this point. all the maps from both, and BC2 etc. those games albeit both having rocky starts to multiplayer were both incredible.
Bad Co 2 as well. I want those heli flight mechanics and physics back from BF3. I want them back very much. When I was in the Viper in BF3... I felt so God damn powerful.
bf1
I'm sucker for that BF3 Vehicle mechanics. Especially Flying vehicles I wish bf2042 has that mechanics too.@@bigbarrettbob
@bigbarrettbob that just reminded me of constantly circling in a heli and blasting the crap out of everyone and being almost impossible to hit
@@DF59821 LOL good times...
This video is quality thoughts, narrated beautifully, a truly pro presentation @jackfrags. You’re not only a talented gamer but an extremely intelligent one. Well done on an excellent piece.
Just thought that should be pointed out.
If they get rid of specialists/operators and make cosmetics fit well in realistic-looking battlefield, I'll be so happy.
In hindsight, it’s kind of remarkable how many bad decisions were made developing BF2042. It’s in a much better place now, for sure but still….idk how anyone at Dice/EA could’ve been thinking they were going the right direction. Given the evolution of 2042 over the last year or so I’m hopeful for the next game
I have a theory it's these new-age game developers that come into the industry with barely any experience actually playing video games. Then they say, "We have to do something different! We have to change it up!" But then that just means they don't do the things that the previous games in the franchise did best. It's like they'd rather feel special than stand on the shoulders of giants.
I'm reminded of this during a sit-down with some developers who worked on Diablo 4. They were terrible at the game they worked on and basically said in the interview they just wanted to try and get into the game industry because it looked fun and profitable.
Smh
Kudos to you for beeing positive, i don't trust them for a sec and will advice EVERYONE to NOT preorder anything from them!!!!!
@VoidStar definitely plays a huge role from the devs as you mentioned. And shareholders
Every single developer who made battlefield great in the past has moved on to other studios! One being Embark who made the finals, which is shaping up to be an amazing game with the best destruction I've ever seen in a game.
Who is actually excited for another battlefield game when they fucked up so much these 2 last times?
Cautiously optimistic. Not preordering but the eventual beta will reveal all. Could tell straight away from the 2042 beta the game was going to be awful. Hopefully they don't repeat.
@@KillZoneHart1 Thats what I still don´t get...
The Trailer literally had a bugged out compass, the beta that followed after was a mess and a perfect showcase of what the trailer already told us and yet a ton of people bought into it Day 1 just because the devs said that the beta would´ve been a 6 month old build which was the most obvious lie I´ve ever heard.
Like I do remember how disappointed I was when they didnt turn away from the more CoD like gameplay with BF4 after they apologized for BF3 and straight up lied that it´d change with 4. All done and good since alot of people like it regardless, but its sheer insanity that people somehow believed that 2042 would be a fully fletched out product after all the launch issues with previous titles and after straight up seeing the state of the beta with the full knowledge that its by far not the first time that dice would lie.
Is it really that hard to keep Battlefield true to its origins? We need classes, fair progression, and more urban maps like Strike At Karkand. Essentially, we're looking for a more sophisticated BF1 or BF3.
I wish they did more BF2 special forces like stuff. Especially with night maps that require you to put on night vision it was just so cool back in the day when I was a kid. And the grappling hook to make your own rope to climb walls and the ziplines that was great
Maybe its because my whole childhood was battlefield 1942, but for me battlefield is just war on the fronts. It shouldnt be like cod.
I can't really feel the hype for battlefield for now, but I hope they can do a good job with the next title
yep.. they trashed the game so bad it will be 10yrs from their last good game
@@cobra1995xx bf1 and BFV are good
They just need to make a combination of different aspects that made different BF games great. The era Bf4 sets, the Ambiance of BF1, the soldier and vehicle customization of BFV. Above all I just want to be a normal and generic soldier.
You mentioned soldier customization, but above all want to be a generic soldier? Contradictory statements like these are why developers stopped listening to the players. LMFAO
@@dense_and_dull
Yeah he means he doesn’t want to be forced to play as some stupid “Specialist” with an uninteresting back story and personality + goofy out of place cosmetics.
Most vocal fans share his same sentiment. Give us the LEVEL of customization that Battlefield V has but also give us the setting, visuals, atmosphere, and cosmetic direction of Battlefield 3 & 4.
I like how you took the point of his comment and retorted with the most extreme opposite possible even though his point was pretty obvious to anyone reading - including you…You really just want to play devil’s advocate.
@@beelzeboo If that is what he meant, that is what he should of said. You can't have battlepass skins and want to be a generic, run of the mill soldier. I'm not playing devil's advocate, but I am of the opinion that you're both lacking in intelligence.
I like how you gave me many different sentences, yet they all just scream "I'm stupid, don't listen to me."
So I won't listen to you.
@@dense_and_dull even I understood what he meant. You just sound angry for no reason dude
@@dense_and_dull willful ignorance isn’t exactly intelligent
Lets hope that they will focus as much on other aspects as on this one
I love that Jack is trying his hand at comedy! “Perhaps Dice has heard players feedback”, for a one liner that one slaps!!! 😂
I feel like a job offer being up for a major position in the development of the next game, this late in the cycle, is a huge red flag.
its EA. they just pump out shite just like activision and charge 70-100 bucks a game. people with integrity and talent wont even apply for those suits.
Good point
That’s why I’m thinking that this job listing isn’t actually for the next Battlefield game, but for the one after that, for the next generation.
Large scale/ realistic destruction and the physics for it is something that surely would have to be settled on and have the work started for early in the games development because that would be a core design choice as it can’t really be an after thought?
So either the listing is for a later battlefield game they’re prepping to start development for, or the next Battlefield is only just going into the early stages of development now which I find hard to believe.
Once The Finals first showcased its destructability, I had a feeling it would make Dice sit up in their seats.
Between the finals and BattleBit remastered I think DICE realizes they have to step up their game. Battlebit should have made DICE absolutely embarrassed considering the team that made it is a fraction of DICE size and resources.
The Finals made a pretty significant industry precedent with its server-side destruction and the gameplay opportunities it facilitates. I really hope it influences the industry in a good way.
@@Trepanation21it's literally the destruction from Bad Company games, it's not new tech, people just haven't seen it in so long that they think it's new tech, DICE wouldn't have cared about The Finals because its nothing that can compete against Battlefield, hell the game already has a fairly low playerbase with viewership so low that it doesn't get recommended on RUclips or Twitch 💀
BC2 was my childhood man, miss that game so much.
I HOPE they will see the finals destruction and how passionate was the tf2 community and be like “yeah we need those things”
Expecting the worst, hoping for the best
Same boat here pal.
its EA. dice isnt the dice we fell in love with in the first place. they all left cuz shoddy corporatism bs. thats why ppl be loving "The Finals" now. and im on board with those peeps
I also hope its not gonna be sweaty!! No jumping and shooting, more grounded and tactical oriented like the previous ones. BF4, BF1 and BF5 worked for me and my friends
DICE saw The Finals and got mad 😂
It would be pretty cool to have advanced AI teammates you could talk to like real people and they'd listen and react. Not just specific scripted commands like "hold the door", but maybe you say "They are pushing, I have to heal" and the AI responds by holding the door while you heal up.
I remember playing _Red Faction_ back in the day and really liking the way you could cause damage to the environment. I had fun just building tunnels with rocket launchers. I wish more games would implement that sort of thing.
Man oh man there's some nostalgia. Red Faction 2 was one of my favorites as a kid.
Yes. Definitely the one on ps2. 2005 nights with my brother
@@AtlasJaysopot!
That game is incredible!!!!!
Tunnel out a hole, get the rail gun. Boom!
EA being like "trust us"
How about a scoreboard, squad management, a good number of weapons and maps, some cover on the maps, frequent new content in an amount we received during premium times, map rotation in servers, and some balancing and testing. And then destruction is a nice addition. But it nothing that compensates bad gameplay or lack of content.
*Summary*
*Introduction and Background*
- 0:00 Insane destruction might return in the next Battlefield game, exciting many fans.
- 0:09 Evidence, rather than speculation, suggests a focus on enhanced destruction in the upcoming title.
- 0:18 The information was discovered on the tech 4 Gamers website.
*Job Application Insights*
- 0:21 A job application for a VFX director on the EA website hints at the game's direction.
- 0:28 The job description includes language about creating realistic and exciting destruction effects.
- 0:52 A work task example emphasizes real-time visual effects using high-quality particles, textures, and shaders.
*Comparative Analysis with Previous Battlefield Games*
- 1:14 Comparison with BF 2042, which lacked the expected level of destruction.
- 1:23 Historical context: Battlefield games known for their destruction capabilities since Bad Company.
- 1:41 BF4 featured entire skyscraper collapses, while BF1 and BF5 showcased more detailed destruction.
- 1:51 In BF 2042, maps felt less alive due to reduced destruction.
- 2:02 Limited reactions in BF 2042 could be a design choice or a technical sacrifice for larger maps and more players.
- 2:18 Live service levels added more destruction but were underwhelming compared to previous games.
- 2:34 Most destruction found in portal mode, created by Ripple Effect.
*Potential Reasons for Emphasizing Destruction*
- 2:41 Dice might focus on destruction in response to feedback from BF 2042.
- 2:52 Emphasis on destruction as a unique feature compared to other games.
- 3:01 The player community misses exciting destruction effects in BF 2042.
- 3:11 Other contemporary games catching up in multiplayer destruction could be a motivator for Dice.
*Influence of Other Games and Future Expectations*
- 3:22 The Finals and Battlebit games show server-side destruction, influencing the Battlefield series.
- 4:01 Battlefield may aim to reclaim the top spot in realistic destruction in multiplayer games.
- 4:29 Potential application of previously showcased dynamic effects in the next Battlefield game.
- 4:54 Imagining new possibilities with advanced destruction mechanics.
*Frostbite Engine Update and Its Implications*
- 5:07 The Frostbite engine, used in Battlefield games, recently updated, hinting at advanced destruction capabilities.
- 5:14 Blog post talks about making the engine more user-friendly for players and creators.
- 5:27 Frostbite's website features Battlefield with a focus on next-level destruction.
- 5:39 Updated engine may allow altering the flow of a map with progressive damage.
- 5:58 Possible new version of Frostbite without limitations of previous console generations.
*Additional Research on EA Jobs Website*
- 6:17 Exploration of EA jobs website for more insights into the next Battlefield game.
- 6:29 Another job posting related to Battlefield hints at further game development details.
*Job Listing for Senior AI Game Designer*
- 6:32 The position reports to the Design Director.
- 6:34 Role involves designing and improving player experiences against and with enemy and NPC AI characters and vehicles.
- 6:42 Requires analytical skills, player insight, and creativity.
- 6:50 The designer will work with various tools to iterate AI combat systems and encounters.
*Responsibilities and Collaboration*
- 6:56 Manage enemy and NPC AI systems and experiences.
- 7:01 Collaborate with encounter and level designers for combat experiences.
- 7:07 Work with animators and engineers on AI behavior and animation needs.
*Speculations on the Role's Implications*
- 7:19 Could involve working on AI for a single-player campaign in the next Battlefield game.
- 7:29 The new Seattle Studio Ridgeline Games is building a narrative experience, likely a campaign.
- 7:41 The language in the listing aligns with previous Battlefield single-player modes.
- 7:48 Might also refer to enhancing AI Bots in the game, as seen in BF 2042.
- 8:05 Speculation about advanced AI enemies in multiplayer, beyond just placeholders.
*Potential New Features and Game Modes*
- 8:22 Battlefield might include PvPvE elements, like assaulting AI strongholds in side objectives.
- 8:40 The job listing mentions a variety of combat encounters, hinting at new experiences.
- 8:47 Ripple Effect might be working on a new aspect for the game, possibly a battle royale with AI enemies.
- 8:59 There's speculation about a new extraction action mode, following the underwhelming performance of Hazard Zone.
*Future of Battlefield and Ripple Effect's Role*
- 9:06 Rumors suggest the next Battlefield game won't release until 2025.
- 9:10 Ripple Effect hasn't been front-facing since BF 2042's launch in November 2021.
- 9:19 A four-year development period could lead to a significant new Battlefield extraction game.
- 9:28 The job listings offer intriguing insights into potential future developments.
*Conclusion and Community Engagement*
- 9:48 Excitement about the possibility of next-level destruction in the next Battlefield game.
- 9:56 Emphasizes the importance of advanced destruction features in the upcoming game.
- 10:01 Invites community thoughts and engagement in the comments section.
Disclaimer: I used chatgpt4 to summarize the video transcript provided
by youtube. This method may make mistakes in recognizing words.
I'll believe it when I see it. There has been hype for the last 2 BF titles that has left more pain than pleasure with those games. Especially 2042 is a pain point and I still feel ripped off about that game, I have no problem requiring some significant convincing to hand my money over on the next one. DICE has some damage to repair
I didnt even buy bf2042 and i feel betrayed
I'm tired with content creators hyping news about a game we know nothing about... except their last games SUCKED. Jack needs to step back on this hype BS finally. Didn't we suffer enough with 2042, BFV and that's just this franchise.
the dice your referring too isnt the dice you loved. the devs of the classics moved on and make better games now. EA just hires the bare min that they think will make them money and nobody knows what made bf so special in the first place.
same. and i wont buy it. was on sale for 10 bucks a few weeks ago and i bought 3 other indie games instead.@@Gaminggagreel
i like jacks delivery and when he posts going back to bf3/bf1 but i agree. he's prolly taking paychecks from EA. whatever, let him make his money i guess. its just a guy who likes video games.@@djnorth2020
I've learned from my mistake with BF2042 when I preordered the ultimate edition... I will wait for full release and REAL reviews for the next one
I’ve been doing that for the past 10 years. Games after 2010 have declined bad. Scammy and greedy developers making games for a new generation that has low standards. Never preorder anything. Those times have long gone when you could preorder with confidence.
I usually have the same mindset, but being a battlefield fan since BF2, I have only positive experiences with prior titles. Well except some buggy launches, but always a fun and good game
Gonna be a wait and see with the next game
This game will decide battlefield’s fate. So many great memories on BF3 & BF4. BF1 had moments, but everyone’s confidence in buying this game day one is like expecting a new DC comics movie to be great. We will see, and hope for the best.
Many things should be considered in the new BF
1- The comeback mechanics in conquest in BF1
2- The operation mode and how immersive the atmosphere was
3- The building and the squad leader strikes should be there
4- They should learn the destruction from The Finals.
Agree with all but the comeback mechanics. The game already had Auto balancing in it. I can't tell you the number of times I was on a winning team and then got switched to the losing team when they got a behemoth. Behemoths themselves were just annoying to boot. If I do well enough with my squad we get rewarded with the other team getting a near indestructible vehicle?!?!
@@raquetsofglory that seems really dumb. also I hate the auto switching. that bf4 had, I'd be on the winning team but then get moved to the losing team because people decided to stack the better team. and it wasn't like I was just joined no kills/deaths. I often was top 10 and get moved across. like what.
5- spotting by default for all classes. BF5 and 2042 feel too much like hide & seek sometimes. Bring back the Doritos!
They need to bring back the commander mode. It was actually pretty cool to use in Bf4 and Hardline
And I know I'm in the minority here, but Firestorm from BF5 was honestly one of the best BR games I've ever played.
Wish they would being it back
Proximity chat would be a good start. Ability to drag downed teammates. Maybe an optional over the shoulder cam?
I strongly believe that the production Studios have a look on each other on how successful games are. And the new MW3 showed, that listening to the community, is a key success. And Dice will follow on this. At least I hope
they've decided to bring destruction back because how well the finals is going and how much people loves its destruction with how u can take down the entire map.
THIS. They literally ignored everyone until people had a choice going somehwere else for destruction.
Because of how well what is going?
@@MrMustang13 'the finals' is a meme game
Final is made by original dice
Or maybe because money talks and their sales suck
Will it be a historical battlefield or recent past one? Possibly Vietnam, Gulf War, Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, War on Terror, Korean War, Cold War in general? Two back to back near-future games would be risky given 2042’s launch and reputation however there seems to be a desire from the fan base for a solid modern (not near future) game in the vein of BF3/4
I think the next game is modern
Ziggy this is my dream bf. Start in Korea. Don’t worry about operator skins and u buy dlc for the next decade and bring it right up to modern day.
It will just be hypothetical WW3 again
@@analien5251imo the gulf war would be the best way to make a “modern” battlefield not too much futuristic bs just a good modern feel even though that war was a while ago
A 60 to 90s setting would be amazing
This BF was pretty unique, it’s like they combined BF3+BF5
Its a tall order but with the amount of studios and devs they got working, id like to see a genuinely good singleplayer campaign, a comprehensive, F2P, BR/Extraction mode, and a high quality, classic style multiplayer.
They said the same about 20-42 fps.
Are they ahead of schedule? 5 studio's working on it?
We're at the point where it's possible to have entirely voxel based destruction but that probably won't happen until the ps6
Not with the level of detail in the average battlefield game. Not without running at 5 fps.
Yeah, stop making them force me to upgrade my gpu bro!
Will never happen, voxel based destruction is intensive asf, no console or PC will run it in a multiplayer game let alone the game engine itself without huge cut backs
what was the battlefield in the woods where everyone just used to c4 the walls on the little buildings and then detonate them and the whole roof came down on players, that was always fun!!
They should really just hire a rookie Artist and an engineer that can actually base the destruction on real values
Battlefield 4 with battlefield 5 gameplay and updated graphics will be literally perfect
I think THE FINALS takes the crown for best destruction in the industry
I hope they showed dice that they can't stay lazy and have to step up a bit in terms of destruction.
I hope the'll put an equal effort on hit registry/server quality or whatever it is making the ttk and ttd so inconsistent and hugely problematic. In 2042 I rarely have the ttk/ttd as I see most enemies (comparing only what I actually see and hear in front of me when enemies weapon being fired) with enemies often only needing average 3 hits on me to kill at full health and no headshot-compared to me needing average 10 clear hit marks until kill.
Sounds like bs. Unless you are trying to outplay DMR with Bison from a distance, which is not smart move
@@dethhetzSounds as if you are one of those who never experienced the issue? Doesn't mean that it doesn't exists. I'm a veteran player with thousands of hours of Battlefield play.
And yes I have low ping (around 18-21 ms) and yes I have reasonably good aim and most of all I judge this by watching hit markers, watching the enemies actual fire/bullet trace and the sound of shots being fired. As well as watching other players in the game killing other team members just as fast at full health.
@@cornerliston this just doesn't make sense. If you see hit marker, it means hit was registered by server, damage was calculated and results was sent back to your client. Your shots and your opponents shots are registered by exact same server by exact same rules, so his shots are registered the same way in nearly same ticks. But you are declaring that it does not work that way which is literally impossible.
I'm not saying you are not facing the problem, but it looks like you either can't describe it properly or has fundamental misunderstanding of game mechanics.
@@dethhetz I can only report what I see in game play right in front of me. I think that is pretty well described in my original post?
I also comment sometimes in the in-game text chat and some other players mention they experience the same thing.
To my understanding (I know very little about gaming server technology) this is what netcode is supposed to deal with. Bad netcode = hit registry not proper and lag making enemies killing you even when you already are behind cover (buildings and other thick non-penetrable material), as well as being killed by an enemy right in front of you seeing you hit the enemy with say 5-6 hit BEFORE the enemy starts shooting and kills you with 2-3 hits, full health. Or the even funnier situation when you get killed by enemy right in front of you, close range, even before you see and hear the player fire the weapon. (Not as usual but happens surprisingly often.)
As I understand this might also be the cause of players having very high ping, but that doesn't make sense to me since I should have the benefit with my low ping. And this is where ping equalisation comes in (or what it's called in correct terms) where the high ping player actually might have an advantage.
Ask Jack: not sure if you make videos with community questions or not, but the concept you start to discuss beginning at 8:05 (in regards to the idea of having enemy AI strongholds on flags that, if captured, give you an advantage over that flag) sounds very interesting.
TLDR; Do you think the community would enjoy a feature where capturing flags in conquest spawns friendly AI that defend the objective, so that players can leave the area and attack other flags?
To expand on that, do you think it would enhance game modes like Conquest if, when you capture an enemy flag, it spawns friendly AI that stay at that objective to defend it?
The enemy would then have to eliminate that AI before they could begin neutralizing the flag. The game could then warn a team when an enemy is attacking their AI + flag, and give players time to head back to that objective to defend it further?
With the size of the maps ever increasing with each new release, this could change the way conquest is played and allow players to feel more comfortable leaving an objective after capturing it, and attacking other flags as opposed to capturing it and staying on that flag nearly the entire match to hold it down. This would give players the ability to experience other areas of the map and learn new tactics for attacking and defending different objectives.
Sorry this was so long-winded! 😅
Red Faction Guerrilla came out in 2009 and is still better than anything nowadays...
I miss the destruction so much! My favorite BF map ever was Heavy Metal from BC2. At the end of the round there was barely anything standing.
Over the years of BF I have realised that it's not just realism that is needed to satisfy destruction. It's the extensiveness of it. What's the point in being able to roll over a tree in a tank or blow a wall out if there is a building nextdoor undamaged and unable to be damaged. It removes all immersion
so if this truly is the case then these destruction physics should be an amalgamation of the finals large chunk destruction with explosives all the way down to small arms destruction that we know in rainbow six siege. i think a perfect blend of this could be industry leading.
Bring Fortification Building Back Again, It unified players to have common interest and goals because ammo and attrition is valued more, giving players the ability to alter the map with player built structures (prefabs created by Dice) such as machine gun nest or barricading windows, caltrops ect.
DICE really should do something similar to what 'The Finals' developers have done with destruction. (Ironically they are former DICE devs who worked on BC2 and Battlefield 3, along with Mirror's Edge) Have the destruction server-side, as you can tell it makes a HUGE difference and if DICE can implement that with the next "Frostbite Engine", it could be a game changer for the series.
That is my issue EA/dice didn't see value in micro destruction, so the poured money into 'leveloution' or whatever. Those people now left and made an awesome psychics game
Part of the reason they left was to get away from Frostbite from what I heard from a Swedish dev friend (at a rival studio) and EA's direction.
No idea how true that is but if he heard it then someone said it.
will it have a scoreboard this time? will they follow their dreams and finally make it the hero shooter dice dreamed of? i can barely contain my expectations.
I just want a game that plays like latest patch BFV but set in a modern setting, or slightly futuristic setting. That's literally it.
Make it fun like bf3 was. Great game mechanics, maps that were designt with play fun in mind, great ambience
Would be amazing bring destruction back, I liked the point system like they did in bfv when you call in a big bomb bit like a nuke, think was bfv. Anyway hope you are better jack. You sound better.
It doesn't need to be realistic... It needs to be a fun mechanic that gives players more gameplay choices.
Battlefield 1 did a lot right with destruction and dust effects...lets just hope the next Bf will be a mix of bf2 classic feeling and destruction and fun game modes like in bf1
We heard this promise for the past 2 releases in a row. I'll believe it when I see it my dude.
I'm not sure how many people agree with me, (maybe just the AI would), but I want multiplayer option for Bots in any battlefield game going forward. I want to play them years after the online community dies off or moves on. Being able to play the game 5, 8, 10 years later with a faster PC really is fun with Bots and real players joining. I'm loving Battlefield 3 today using VU mods, FunBots and mods like More Gore. 06:29 gives me hope for the future of Battlefield and me.
bf3 is the top tier battlefield
2042 started terribly but is in an okay place now, however, it’s still lacking so much that makes a great Battlefield game. I really hope the next one impresses!
Still fills like bigger COD clone
Finish and flesh out 2042 especially portal
Destruction is fun and all, but they need to take a look at The Finals and all the instances where destruction can block people between chunks and other problematic situations
The finals has the best destruction since Red Faction Guerrilla. A game that came out in 2008. That's a very long time
Would be happy if we can talk to our team mates and have proxy chat in matches. Also would be great if we had some campaign stories like BF1 did. That scale with maybe 6 or 8 missions would be awesome since 2042 didn't have a campaign.
I would love another enemies side story like BFV with The Last Tiger. It was a really beautiful and sad story.
No.
Honestly bf5’s campaign was better than multiplayer.
If the next battlefield is released in 2025, to me, it sounds like a terrible idea because GTA6 will be released around there, and that's what everybody's focus will be on
Embark studios have a lot of old BF devs.
I filled out several Ea survey's and that was always my number one ask is the need for more level destruction
If the new Battlefield is not Bad Company 2 remastered or a sequel, I legitimately don't care
Me neither,Been waiting on BC3 for 14 years straight now and have grown to despise DICE for it
I hope that when they talk about destruction, its not just super flashy one-off moments like Levolution.
While those are cool, destruction needs to be a core design principle when building maps.
That's why destruction is so great in Bad Company, Siege, and The Finals. All three games allow players to use destruction in creative ways that actually affect the result of matches.
Yeah I can almost hear an EA suit saying: "the plebs want destruction? What if we blow up all of Europe in a cutscene?"
It'd be cool if they kept Levolution for bigger stuff like skyscrapers but I do agree that destruction should be baked into the core of every map. For example, do you remember Golmud from Bf4? The city on the top had buildings that could be reduced to complete rubble. That's what I personally think they should do for every small to medium sized building.
@C.P.L Yessir, I couldn't agree more! Also, I love the Golmud shoutout. It was probably my favourite map in Bf4.
It’s been said and you said it also, we all remember how much they hyped the destruction in 2042. I truly hope they’ve learn from the past, I feel like the studio have redeemed themselves lately - but we all need to be wary of the marketing, they did too good of a job at the marketing for 2042.
I want next levels destruction and levelution events on every map as well like bf4 imagine you start a levelution event on a map and it starts a chain reaction of destruction and you get all the kills involved
This next battlefield should be updated and maintained for a long time, but the last entry for a long time. Battlefield could benefit from a break and DICE needs to have all hands on deck to deliver Battlefont 3
Battlefront 3 would be a dream, if it has larger and better in every way compared to battlefront 2, like more maps, more game modes, more weapons, gadgets, characters and the next generation of graphics.
Really hope they do break boundaries with the destruction and gameplay. Hopefully consoles run it as well as The Finals. I am loving that game so far, and the way things break matches the games aesthetic if that makes sense, but hopefully the new Battlefield will have buildings and things getting destroyed in cool and unique ways that are completely new and different every time
I remember Battlefield 1943, the Xbox Arcade BF game having insane destruction as well.
battlebit is such a good exemple of what it needs to be
It has to. The Finals devs even said that having their destruction run on servers is a new technology. We've seen how that destruction sets The Finals apart from other arena shooters. If Battlefield can replicate that for a military shooter with 64 players, then it sets it apart from COD
But it's not new technology 😂 So many people believe the crap they came out with, they even tried to claim the level of destruction was never seen before in a video game but it's destruction tech has been used in quite a few games before going all the way back to around 2010, the devs just needed to gaslight people so it makes sales, pretty much what every company does these days 😂
I’m seeing a loop in their approach in making their games, execution and then release. Ever since BF4 they’ve taken a complete u-turn in how they make their games and even hiring new people to work on said games. I haven’t played BF since BF4 for that reason. I don’t have faith in this next one until gameplay footage is shown and the game is finished.
bf4 launch was horrible but its still a good game. bf1 was their best release if you didnt try it. but the old games like bf3/bad company 2/bf2 had something special that they lost. devs moved on and the new kids they hired just didnt understand the magic.
One day I envision battlefield style game with full destruction where you lead a squad of AI players and they can understand your voice commands and have a basic level of autonomy. You will also be able to pull up in mini map and give quick movement and cover directions as well.
Combine this with a full scale battle map where you have thousands of players working together like foxhole but first person. You will also have the option to work together with other real players, either each running their own squads, or all of them in your squad. Throwing vehicle warfare and goddamn that would be a fun game.
We just need fiber optic internet. You become the standard and servers to become significantly more powerful.
jack always talks for so long but at the end he really just making things can be said in sentence into a 10 min speech
Those are some great news. Hope they keep the game as a whole more realistic, graphics, gunplay and soldier looks are all things I would like to be more realistic than in 2042.
Keep the news coming Jack, love them!
What I want:
1. 14+ hour SP campaign
2. 2-4 player Co-op campaign mode
3. BR or an Extraction mode
4. 12-128 player game modes ( DM, TDM, Control, Rush 64, Tactical Conquest 64 (no radar, less hp, increase bullet velocity, increase vehical dmg and longer respawn time), Conquest 64, Supreme Conquest 128 (More vehicles, objectives, tickets to gain, larger map size), Gun Game and w/e else.)
5. 6-8 maps and 35-40 weapons + vehicles
6. Next level destruction system and weather map effects
7. Remain somewhat system friendly and optimized to where 120 FPS can be achieved on the consoles so that on PC it can be even more easily achieved.
8. FULL VOIP SYSTEM let team chat and have squad chat and let squad leaders communicate w/ other squad leaders to make a more immersive social battlefield experience.
9. Proper anti-cheat system
10. Map vote post game lobbies and options to make squads before next map starts.
I disagree with the BR and SP suggestion. They should focus their ressources on a good MP experience. Quality over quantity. Battlefield was never about battle royale, and singleplayer should be kept for the next bad company entry. If you want BF to become like COD which is essentially an attachment grinder for Warzone nowadays, then sure by all means.
They have had 4 years of dev already and still another year of dev left. They can do all that easily it's not asking much especially since it's not just 1 dev team working on the game. Also BF should have a SP BF3 had it and 4 and 1. V was eh SP format and absolutely nothing in 2042 so idk what your talking about. @@CallofWarQC
@@sirdabzmcgee tbh the only good BF campaign ever was bad company.
BF3 only had a campaign to further compete with CoD, it wasnt good by all means. 4 was just the same, including the same gameplay but they lied prior about wanting to turn the CoD style they had back and make the game generally feel more like battlefield (spoiler they didnt, hence why I didnt buy any BF game since, I dont really feel like investing into companies that straight up lie to their customers).
havent played BF1 but I heard that they atleast figured out that they should use BF typical elements in an otherwise pretty basic and meh campaign.
BFV campaign was supposedly just a bugfest and according to others felt like it was made by a small team with barely any experience that tried their best to do something.
So no, I highly doubt that they need a campaign, and if they do, you can pretty much be happy with a 2h campaign thats actually done proper.
For BR/Extraction: Ofcourse, because we dont have too many of that stuff around already, we definietly do need another one that 90% of people can ignore as they´ve grown sick of it, sounds like a briliant idea to waste dev time on.
@@sirdabzmcgee Bf2042 had a lot of development time as well as 4 or 5 studios working on it and look how that turned out lmao. By far the most polished game at launch the last few years was BF1. Short but sweet campaign stories and incredible multiplayer. Not much content at first but the core game was amazing and still is to this day.
The only good BF campaign was BF3????? So you didnt play Bad Company games? This what I mean too many so called BF players who wanna pitch in on what BF should be or not be yet as someone who legit been playing EVERY BF game minus BF 2142 I can attest that BF franchise always had SP + MP and players liked both. Also to back this up go look at how BF player base reacted when they saw how BFV ruined BF SP experience and how also in 2042 no SP at all. A LOT of veteran BF players were upset about that BECAUSE all of us veteran BF players grew up w/ BF having a solid MP + a decent fun SP@@Unknown_Genius
Ah I remember watching that 2020 video for the destruction. Back when I could hear lmao.
Hopefully it has a battle royale mode too. Loved the destruction in firestorm. It really set it apart from other BRs.
I knew destruction will be back after 2042 fiasco anyway. What I want to know will the specialists be gone? Not classes bc I know they will not try to remove them again, but I don't want to see any kind of specialists be tied to classes like in 2042. I/we core bf community want generic boring soldiers. Problem with that is they can't make money of them as with specialsts so that have me worried. Also I want for guns to be tied to classes
They have surely learned their lesson.
I'm part of the battlefield community and I actually liked specialists within the class system. But the specialists should have two requirements. 1) Their special equipment has to be refilled via an ammo box. 2) Specialists need to be exclusive to a faction.
@@TheoriginalBMT that's why I said core community. There are ppl in CoD commumity who want from CoD to be more like BF. Majority of BF players don't want specialists close to BF. First, BF was fine before them. Second, they are immersion breaking. Third, their only purpose is to take money from dumb players. There is no reason for them since special equipment tied to calsses existed in BF before specialists. They added nothing, but they have taken a lot.