Innovative New Playmats For Magic: The Gathering, Pokémon TCG: Gamegenic, Duelist, Windward, Nomad
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You could literally see the gears turning in the profs head as he realizes that the magnetic play mat might let him do a shake test
As long as we don't smell the gears turning, there's nothing to worry about.
The crowd loves a shake test!
SO true, haha
Of these "new playmats" this is the one I could see buying. Camping with my kids and can play some Magic w/ the magnets for the decks.... I could see it.
He should rate Shake Weigths.
@@LykoticState Agreed, with LGS's being closed (or at least not allowing in-store play) many in my playgroups have considered playing outside, but the main concern has been cards blowing away. This would alleviate that pretty much completely.
I did not expect the Professor to say "EXTRA T H I C C" with tons of reverb on, but I'm so glad he did
same here LMAO
A surprise for sure
But a welcome one
@@sebastianozezza6716 Indeed!
Sad that his song, extreme thickness, was taken down.
@@Yu-xq7dw INDEED THICC (thic- thic....)
The first time I played Magic was with friends at a Girl Scout trip. Playing in a tent or on a hotel bed can be tough. I love some of these innovations, and I can really see benefits for using them with my own kids, especially the pockets for enforced organization. Also, love the potential for magnets with counter markings on them! We currently use a Card Kingdom mat with the kids that has all the areas marked out, but a few times we've had to get creative if say, we wanted to play in the car while waiting for an appointment or something - a firm surface would be fun!
First time I played magic was with my boy scout troop, they were the whole reason I got into the game in the first place.
Scouts was definitely my starting place too. A myr deck I think. You sound like a really cool parent by the way! Playing with your children is important for their development and your enjoyment of life!
@@GREENSP0RE I like to call it sneaky math and challenging words. #evilplan
Yeah I agree its a good way to bond with a child. I wish me and my dad had shared anything in common! Sadly he passed 3 years ago. Never underestimate how much you can influence your children's life!
@@aidanwright3037 damn, I'm a scout as well and they never let me bring my cards to the meetings or trips (I'm from Italy so it might be different)
The professor saying thicc is my new religion
T H I C C C
E X T R A T H I C C C
I would like to join that religion too.
@@LoboGuarah We all would
Too bad the extreme thiccness video is gone.
I do agree with the Prof’s assessment and grading on the Nomad overall. However, I will point out as an inaccuracy that there is a way to secure your deck and draw from it having watched the Openboosters gameplay with it yesterday. The elastic band that secures the Nomad closed can be rotated around and your deck placed underneath it, and looked to be more secure than the Windward strap solution. That being said, it then suffers the same pitfalls as every other component of the Nomad...”what if it wears out?”
I must mention, I agree with you but also the professor only talked about it being used in wind when it was made to be used in cars. Against wind i wouldn't trust it, but against the centrifugal force of a sharp turn? You bettcha. Felt like I needed to say this because i thought it was cool.
THe problem with you trying to hold it upside down: Most of the magnets (indeed mysterious) were not actually helping to hold the deck in place - it slid down and plunged all it's weight onto just one row. Maybe it would have worked had you kept your hand on it until it was upside down, but I agree it's unlikely and probably not very indicative of strength (like the stretch test, great if it passes but not really a problem if it fails)
Yep! We know that the deck strap probably wouldn't hold in a major earthquake or barrel roll (if you're in a plane or James Bond car chase), but I can confirm that it works in a strong wind. It was fun to watch Prof. improvise a shake test though :)
The windward opens up the design space a lot for what a play-mat could be.
Ya I was thinking of how you could hybridize it with a traditional playmat
Yeah i was thinking jf you could somhow line special sleeves or have special inserts the magnet sits inside the sleeves and use a sheet of aluminum or something coated in rubber or something protective the mat can roll up but it can hold your sleeves like magnets on a fridge. Sorrybif it doesnt make sense. Im tired lol
I can't see a good way to add to sleaves without your whole deck sticking together. I more think they are right with most of the magnets the way they are but the mat seems like only a start of something better. But magnetic counters would be cool to make.
I personally believe part of problem with the hybridization idea is cost. Metal thread exists, but to interweave it into a play mat would make it more expensive than necessary. I'm not sure if it would hold designs as well or if would be able to use magnetic counters.
Dose not need to be thread more like an impregnated plastic like the magnetic pla for 3d prints just needs to be thin and flexible.
Do I need another mat? No. Does Prof make me want another mat? Yes. My LGS will be receiving my money soon.
Do I need a mat? Yes.
Do I have a mat? No.
Wow, I realy need a playmat!
Yeah, mine is a Teferi, Heroe of Dominaria one and now I only want a new one for my friends (I'm the only one in my playgroup that has one)
@@theartofjayden1761 you don't have a mat.... it's critical bruh
Thanks you for buying at your LGS and not Amazon.
"I don't care about standard. Chances are, it'll be banned on Monday"
There's not really a good way to respond to this. They've all been banned...
I mean wow. Such a great burn!
My favorite magic consperiacy theory is that years of telling people "lol, interaction isn't fun and boring" has finally caught up with us. Everyone thinks it
It's not "dumping my cards all over the place;" it's "spontaneous research."
We just call it shuffling
Frantic inventory :)
This is the only college my parents could afford :/
College?
It's the college worth going to
Hey, was the lunch room moved somewhere else? I can't find it since the whole phyrexian invasion incident.
@@rustythedeli-master6861 They moved it off-plane, unfortunately
This is the only college you'll need.
I'm gonna need an isolated clip of him saying T H I C C asap.
I can do this for ya
do it
That's a nice Yu-Gi-Oh! mat from Imperium Duelist.
My Magic playmat is now my mousepad while I play Runeterra.
Oof
@Jeff L There is public play if the government forces your education.
Lunch table Magic still exists.
Also, cameras. Those are also a thing.
@Jeff L Can't afford a webcam, but can play Magic.
If people can't afford webcams, then they clearly aren't super invested in Magic. You know, because they can't afford to be. So those people could find something else to do.
@Jeff L Please name a computer that isn't compatible with webcams of any kind?
Also, did you know that phones have cameras? And they have appstores? For Google Hangouts? Seriously, the number of people your argument covers is slimmer than the cardstock trash used to print Magic cards.
@Jeff L If you can't afford a webcam, you probably can't afford Magic cards. If that's true, then you probably won't be super invested in the game either.
As for drafting, that requires other people. There's no real way to do that on a webcam or video call on your phone. So, you could either suck it up and play on Arena or Online, you could gather some friends together and do it in person. Masks suck, but if you're that desperate, sure. Or you can do without. Read a book. Play another game. Figure out why people like Candy Crush.
People always have options. They just have to be motivated enough to use them.
I think it would be interesting to have specialized deck sleeves with magnetic back to go along with the magnetic playmat. That way you can get rid of the magnetic holders and feel more natural when playing.
I saw that Six Samurai Yugioh playmat and my face immediately had a wide grin
Glad I wasn't the only one haha!
Yup i only started playing MTG during the Ixalan Block so while i do love the game Yu-Gi-Oh is my go to ccg.
6 Sams still my favorite deck to play in ygo, no matter the power creeps
The strap on the Nomad can be used to hold your deck down. Openboosters and Edwin have a review of this product.
How did the Prof miss the strap to hold the deck?
Looking at the Nomad, the tapping issues are solved by 'tapstones' that we used back in the day. The march of time since and counter/token frenzy generally invalidates capstones as markers, but that also invalidates 'mobile' boards in general.
Anyone else find it weird the Prof avoided saying the first "not specifically Magic or Pokemon" mat, featuring art of "the six samurai" was a YuGiOh mat?
It felt like he was awkwardly avoiding saying it for some reason?
Well, Yu-**-** is for kids. Magic is only for adults.
Not really but sure.
Old yugioh was kid friendly but modern yugioh is too much for most kids to handle Im sure.
@@oonmm you had to be that guy
Windward was such an interesting concept, and honestly I see the creases as a positive cause it shows off how unique the playmat is without getting in the way of function.
I also like how it neatly folds up so tightly in rows about the same size as a magic card which would be extremely easy to transport compared to having to roll up or fold a mat and find a circular place to keep it without crushing it.
Glad to see we're not the only ones that think folds-flat playmats are the real deal.
The Windward seems like a great idea. I've been looking for solutions to being able to play outdoor, social distanced games with friends, and something like this that helps keep the cards from blowing away might be really useful: if it works as intended. If the magnets are nice and strong, I think it looks awesome. Definitely going to check it out.
For us, card safety is second only to personal health safety! I know from experience that the average MTG deck is frankly stupid expensive. I can assure you that these magnets are very snappy, and each can hold 1-3 sleeved cards with gusto. We wouldn't sell 'em if they didn't work!
In my head I already imagining so many other board game related uses with a metallic board that lay flat on a table with no catches (like you can't just lay a white board down)
the metal pin is so thoughtful. bravo.
And thanks Prof for introducing this. without you i'd never have heard of windward.
We're honored to get such positive attention via the Prof's video here! Maybe you hadn't heard of us because we just started our company last month ;)
I'd love to hear what other games you think would work really well with magnets. We want to make videos of how to play various games on our playmats-and improve our designs to support more and more games.
I see the Professor has now expanded into Memeology.
This video is E X T R A T H I C C.
The windward is interesting. I'd like one because of the space saving ability. That and I can see players using the magnets as counters as well.
Always appreciate that you don't just write off products that aren't exactly what you personally look for and give them a reasonable look :)
Was that a subtle song reference about how magnets work - or did I read to much into that? lol. Great vid as always prof apprishiate the work that goes into helping us make informed purchases.
Likely less of a reference to the song itself as most people who know of or make that reference have not ever heard the song but more of a reference to the meme that came from it. It is interesting to see just how ingrained that meme has become in modern internet culture. Just about any time someone talks about magnets they make a joke about it. Also it joke is still just as funny as it was the first time I heard it!
*appreciate
That imperium mat was designed with yugioh in mind, as the six sams are an archetype and the 2card sized spots in the middle are for links
"I don't care that much about Standard because it's just gonna get banned by Monday anyway."
Prof spitting hot fire.
The wayward mat is cool because you can use cheap refrigerator magnets for counters, tokens, or even reminders for things like upkeep effects or land drops. I see a lot of potential utility there.
7:21 You could realy see that the professor was satisfied with the playmat.
Well THAN you know it’a good product!
you already kno he made this video for that singular play mat, then found the others to fill in the video
Let me know when they finally make a working duel disk.
The strap on the dragon shield holds the deck down, as well as keeping it closed. Open boosters does an actual play test of it.
Also some deckboxes double as library holders during matches, like some of the ones from Gamegenic. I'm not looking into this for windy play, but rather for preventing interference from cats.
The Windward is really cool, and I think some design tweaks (slightly larger overall size, perhaps narrower metal plates so it can roll up to fit into a playmat tube instead of folding) it could be exactly what I want. Make some strong magnetic +/- die counters, a few other card game specific counters, and presto! The perfect mat for playing games out on the porch on a nice Autumn day!
Glad to hear you like it! All of those ideas are at various places on our list of "future plans." Keep an eye out, if that would make the difference for you :)
While these aren't necessarily for me, I can see a rise in playmats that conform to outdoor play simply because of the pandemic. Letting people play outdoors to be a little more safe is nice. These products probably have some iterations to go through, but overall, I think the direction is good.
That is a great point!!! I was only thinking of college students sitting down between classes or something like that. My brain couldn't conceive of a reason why I would want to play outside cuz I live in a place where the humidity is always high.
I play a lot of times after work at a brewery, which has only outside seating currently, so this is a really neat idea, at least in theory!
That was in fact why the Windward came to be, to make socially distant play in a well ventilated area more accessible.
@@Halinn Necessity breeds creativity/innovation
@@Halinn how do you read your opponents' cards from 6 feet away?
I can certainly say that Windward has a good idea. Living in a small town, my friends and I would always play magic at the local park since there was no card shop to play in at the time. It was awful whenever the wind picked up. Cards blowing everywhere, we just got tired of it. For that reason, I'd advocate for the windward
Heck yeah! Currently, there are no card shops to play in in the US due to... reasons... but playing outdoors with these has been really refreshing. I kinda prefer it now, honestly.
I think the prof is overestimating how much I want to go outside.
I guess the perfect playmat for me would be one that can stay flat on any surface (and therefore, making any surface flat). I'm thinking about something like a needle bed but upside down: The needles would fold inward with the objects beneath, stabilizing any non-flat surface. The mechanism would be the difficult part of this playmat: as I'm thinking that you would need the mat to be heavy enough to force the needles to retract, it would need to be rigid (or able to be made rigid) to not fold with the surface, and would need a mechanism that both lets you release all the needles to readjust the surface, lock them in to not go down again with your weight or that of game components, and retract them fully to make the mat foldable or use it as a regular mat.
I guess you could do it with tech: a very small robot that could work as a compass for flatness (oscilloscope? I don't know the word in english) and that would control the needles to adjust the mat to any surface, just like a camera stabilizer. That would be a cool and very useful luxury item, I guess.
The dragonshield One is perfect fo Pokémon TCG
Seems actually designed for it
why so
I would have really liked the pocket or magnetic mat when I was younger and tried playing with my brother in the back seat of the car on road trips. Honestly I think road trip would be the best use for these.
I actually really like the windward it seems like the perfect product for the high school/college student you know when you're first learning to play magic your first year and you're just playing at lunch imagine how useful that may would've been for us in our early years playing on the tables outside during lunch hours
As someone with tremors and twitches, that magnetic mat seems like it could help reduce unwanted mess and cards flying. Probably wouldn't stop the cards from moving, especially with the deck securing, but it certainly would help when it comes to the more minor movements.
The magnetic one is really cool I'd consider getting it for a long trip with some people that played mtg
I hope you get the chance to travel with some buds, before too long :)
I'm with you on the play mats with the features & functionality of the traditional design. Stitching to prevent fraying as long as it doesn't catch. When it comes to Ultra Pro, I want whatever card art I want on any type of playmat I want. That's what I wish they would figure out & they may never figure it out because too many choices just aren't profitable.
The Windward can also be used to play in the car.
When he’s showing us the Windward I’m imagining this huge tornado, and a bunch of MTG players drafting boosters. 😂😂😂 I enjoyed this video too much. XD
That dragon shield mat is so close to perfect for vanguard
I like the idea of the Windward magnet mat. I used to play yu-gi-oh outside quite a lot when I was younger. That would have been awesome. Now a days, Im not playing outside. But maybe someone does and it's a nice option for if that becomes a thing at some point down the line. If you had stronger magnets, I'm sure your deck would have stayed.
I could see the nomad being a good option for Pokemon, as you generator have less cards on the table at once. (Generally!)
Same for yugioh as you dont tap mkst cards and need 3 rows while being restricted to 5 cards max on the middle and bottom rows
I like to take my cards camping and to picnics. I love magic but nice days deserve to be enjoyed. I'm very excited about the windward product!
"While no one truly knows how magnets work" LOL
ive never bought a playmat before, i never really saw the point since i trust the cleanliness of my table at home or those at college (which are especially clean due to covid and stuff) . however this video has genuinely persuaded me to consider buying the magnetic winward playmat since I often play outside and I have no greater fear than my entire deck just flying off. thanks so much for the great content prof!
@Dimmet Gloomcap fair point, thanks for the input. I have noticed that my sleeves ended up getting used up through I think that’s more due to my awful shuffling techniques and bad quality sleeves. Now I’ve got some proper dragonshield ones that should do me fine but if I noticed that they are getting used up I’ll buy a playmat
James from Windward here. Honestly, I never used or owned a playmat before working on a solution to playing MTG outdoors (for covid reasons). They always seemed pretty unnecessary. I didn't set out to design a playmat, but it just happened to be the best solution for keeping cards from blowing away in the wind! You'll notice that our materials are a little more luxury feeling, too. If I have to use a playmat, I like to enjoy the feeling of suede and leather, rather than neoprene. I hope you do end up buying one and getting to play outdoors with confidence :)
Weird to see TeamSam's Yugioh play mat on TCC lol
For me the biggest things are the quality of the art and the feel of the cloth top. I've had some that have a scratchy feel or the art is too low res. I think your comment about not reinventing the wheel until they get the wheel right is spot on.
They should work on making playmats that can draw me a land when I need it.
I have been using a metal plate under my playmat with magnets when I play outside. Glad others can now protect their cards outside!
It really is the best way to play cards outside. Anyone can do it your way, true. We simply wanted to make it portable and aesthetically pleasing for anyone who wants that.
@@windwardplaymats1208 I actually plan on getting one Friday of next week for those very reasons. It looks like it will fit perfectly on top of the box I keep my favorite decks in and will probably get a few for my playgroup come to think of it.
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0:07
Having Six Samurai flashbacks here...
*infinite Bushido Counters intensifies*
That shit fucked me up back when I played years ago.
Sometimes I don't watch your content to conclude what's the best product for me, I already have playmats. I just want to see what new thing you'll talk about. I love watching you compare different products and gush when something is outstanding. Another example is videos on card sleeves, almost all of them end with you praising dragon shield. At this point it's obvious to me how much you love the game and everything about it. Even though I myself don't play magic I feel grateful for your videos. Some of them convinced me to buy new things for the game that I play.
Tldr: Thank you.
Woah, that’s the TSX1 mat!
I work at a game store, and one thing my coworkers noticed about the Nomad is that you can actually flip around the elastic strap used to hold the binder shut and use THAT to hold your deck down, but it doesn't work as well as the Windward does, and essentially removes the use of that sideboard area!
Disappointed to see that visibility on webcam has yet to be added to the playmat/sleeve review criteria, or at least dual mousepad utility since we all know paper magic is dead /s
Glad you are still reviewing products for when the Dark Times eventually come to an end Prof
Im the same !! I like the classics, cloth top neoprene back. After a while the edges can roll a little or fray.
The windward is really cool I think with a little bit of work it can turn into something really awesome
Thanks! What's the main thing you'd want to see us put "work" into?
The Winward magnetic mat would have been perfect for my friend and I a few years back. We were performing in a circus in Mexico, and found an LGS in Veracruz that had Magic and we built decks from scratch with their singles... the only place we had to play was outside and we used a yoga mat as a play surface, if it was windy at all we had issues.
I am ADDICTED to PLAYMATS :D Thank you Prof!
I've been playing on my patio for social distancing reasons and the magnets on the windward would have been nifty. Cool innovation!
The windward MIGHT be ideal for cat owners.
Are you kidding? All those magnets sticking up would be like catnip! You'd never get your cat away from them!
@@Onattamato excuse me! Idk how your cats were raised but my cats know how to conduct themselves around magnets. Good day!
@@Onattamato
What kind of cats have you raised getting
They get high of magnets you should be ashamed of yourself
The three of us that make them are all, in fact, cat owners. 😺
The best playmat I own is a piece of felt that I cut to the correct size. I came off a giant piece from a pool table that was being reupholstered. It does not fray. It does not slide. It is light weight and lays flat even if folded. The best ever.
Of the playmats shown, honestly the windward's the only real interesting one (The Imperium duelist is a normal playmat, just they offer a 2 player sized one, which is nice, but nothing special, considering other companies put out similar or even larger products in that vein,) and even then its role is niche.
Nothing here will beat the limited edition Seb Mckinnon/Rebecca Guay collab mat or the Jon Avon mat I'm waiting for, or having custom commissioned art on a playmat like I can with Inked Gaming.
Niche, yeah, but increasingly relevant when outside is the only really safe place to comfortably hang. It's a product of its time, but we've really enjoyed playing more and more outdoors. Not just because we can, but because outdoors are nice :)
@@windwardplaymats1208 Oh I'm not saying the product is bad at all! Just for my own needs it's not something that excites me as much.
Prof: "As someone who doesn't really see to play Magic outside..."
Me: Neither did I until COVID...
I think the windward are actually pretty neat
Glad you think so! Hope you get a chance to try one out.
The dragonshield "mat" has a lot of potential imo. With the left side area being for lands, maybe make that a little wider so it could hold tapped lands safely while closed with the pocket being just wide enough that you can still reasonably move the cards
then on the right side, copy that, but instead of a pocket the whole way, have a little pop up cloth section that can hold the deck. Maybe even a second little pop up for the graveyard
Honestly the fact that the Windward mat slides into a backpack easily when folded up is enough to make it appealing.
13:13 im from 2010 and just came back to magic late 2020 this sentence baffles and cracks me up way more then it should
I died at "while no one truly knows how magnets work"
woop woop
Y'all need the h in there WHOOP WHOOP LOL
I’m sure someone said this already, but for the magnetic play mat you could get a smooth, circle magnet with a dry erase surface and use it to write down counters or number of tokens.
The irony of using Memorial to Folly to point out a flaw in a product.
I could see using the Nomad for organizing/building. If you have to stop in the middle you could fold it up to avoid "Cat's Play Commander" (see Quest for the Janklord video).
Sneaky little ICP reference there eh, prof?
Giving props where they're due, I guess.
You sold me! Not on mats, but on *yooourr braaand*! I’m new to the industry, and I keep popping into RUclips for various tutorials + recommendations. Of all the big name MTG ppl I’ve come across on RUclips I have to say I enjoy you and the energy you bring to your channel the most, so thanks!
Prof will not mention Yu-Gi-Oh! by name.
He has: ruclips.net/video/LkOA7S6vqQw/видео.html
I was interested in your review of the Nomad since the first time I heard about it. I had hoped the sleeves would allow for tapping more easily, it's a shame to hear they struggle. Keep these reviews coming, they're always informative.
Windward makes covid playing better. Sitting outside not breathing in your disease breath.
Something I didn't see mentioned about the Windward that seems a missed opportunity: Magnetic Backed Card Sleeves. Seems like a better visual alternative to small neodynium magnets, and would hold up well unless the wind was heavy.
Super cool concept but I'm not sure it would work in the current form, since shuffling wouldn't work if the cards stick together. Could reverse it and have magnets in the mat though and just have metal sleeves, that could be interesting!
"while no one REALLY knows how magnets work"
ICP, showing up when they're least expected.
Those of you interested in the windward might want to take a look at dragon claw. It addresses a lot of the things the Professor was talking about; it’s not creased, it has an art design, and it won’t rip or tear. It also has magnetic sleeve inserts, instead of placing magnets on the cards, which to me could get slightly annoying
dam that dragon shield binder/playmat is the worst thing ive ever seen for that price
I don't think that guy from Robocop would buy it for a dollar
Gotta point out that Professor's toss and catch game has gotten incredible over the years.
Prof: reviews a yugioh themed playmat
Also prof: refuses to mention yugioh by name cause its stinky
Why does mtg hate yugioh?
@@TheSandyNub47 cause it’s stinky
Yu-Gi-Oh is an amazing game I bet none of you have even tried it
@@jaylensingh8589 lol I played local tournaments for years in earlier xyzs days and yeah it was stinky. And is more so now
Gotta love the ICP reference anytime magnets are involved.
literally a yugioh six sam play mat "while not specifically designed for pokemon or magic players" just say yugioh man come on now lmao
Woah!, I never expected to my playmat design for TeamSamuraiX1 to be featured in a video outside of the Yugioh Community :D - Tombox
7:58 The metal plate-mat functions as an inbuilt upkeep tracker!
Not that *I* have any need of that. ~Curt S.
Windward innovation with Dragon Shield execution would be a hell of a playmat.
These videos are very informative thanks.
also the creases in the winward add character hehe
Any playmat with areas marked for the command zone and other areas is always a positive. Good for teaching new players.
The windward one seems perfect for if you want to take some MTG with you on a camping trip.
Love the dragon shield idea, but more for playing in the train or on the knees and saving the game like at the restaurant than in exterior.
Too expensive thought. I could buy it for half that price.
Dragon shield Nomad seems ideal for playing magic in the back seat of a car or on a plane. Quite niche but it would be very convenient when it comes up.
i don't have a table currently and playing pokemon with my brother on his bed and it went about as well as you would expect... So these "wind proof" playmats are actually a cool idea for someone like me who doesn't have a large flat surface to play on, you could even play on your lap with the binder/playmat one!