What are some of your favourite forgotten rally cars? Today I wanted to start with some more well-known ones, but if I do make future parts I'd love to delve into the world of kit cars and regional rally competitions, as well as your suggestions of course! Part 2 is out! ruclips.net/video/AFFMs_YOznc/видео.html
Look at some Škodas, like the 130 and the RS. Favorit actually won some WRC events and the footage from the 1994 Finnish rally is absolutely amazing the drivers were giving it proper beans.
If a part 2 would come, it’d be sick for a more in-depth look at cars like: the Skoda Octavia wrc, Proton Iriz R5, Nissan Micra kit car, Seat cordoba wrc evo 1-3, Moskvich/aleko 2141KR, Ford escort Rs2000 or the Skoda Felicia Kit car!
They're very cheap here in Europe, just check for rust! Older Mazdas rust like crazy, I have a 626 '93, and let me tell you I know that from personal experience lmao
One car that you should've totally mentioned is the Mazda 323, but not the normal 323, but its weird rally version, the *6 wheeled with **_2 Rotary Engines,_* yes that thing existed, kinda like the Tyrell P34 but rally car (even the 2 extras wheels are on the front, all 4 wheels steering). Now, as expected, this car is very unknow, but there are some footage of it on the dirt, and pics of its 2 Wankel Engines, one in the front (like a normal car) and the other in the back (like a Group B version), and dont forget its Gigantic rear wing that reminds of a Pikes Peak car
My favourite forgotten rally cars was group b ta64 toyota celica in 1985 driven by juha kankunnen still remembered that car jumps on safari rally kenya.
The Ferrari rally car used the same wheels as the Lancia Stratos Group B cars. If I remember correctly the Stratos also used the Ferrari v6 engine from the Dino.
Had a 323 TX 2wd back in '88, very good hot hatch. I sold it to my brother in '08. Car is in original condition, with a vrery little rust, has 180tkm on clock and drives well. Bro desn't want to give it back, he loves it.
Man I adored watching old footage of the RX-7 going at the rally stages. Always wished that Mazda was more present in motorsports. But Le Mana really did Mazda dirty.
For Part 2 Would be more of 1990-2010 era car's like Seat, Proton, VW (Time before The Polo R) And more of the age and Great video Theese are the content i like to see. 🙂
The TR7 was cool. I remember when those came out. We lived near a Sports Car dealership and I would ride my bicycle over there and just stare at the cars. So futuristic
Hey Jackoh, very interesting video and hope you make it new series. Thanks for all your previous videos aswell. Few suggestions for part 2: Seat Cordoba WRC, Hyundai Accent WRC, Proton Iriz R5, Proton Satria Neo S2000 and Lada 112 VK S2000 from newer ones. From older ones few of the kitcars like Hyundai Coupe, Opel Astra, Seat Ibiza and Renault's. Vauxhall Chevette and BMW M1 could also feature. Along with Audi 200 Quattro and Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 4x4. Mercedes you talked about a bit and Audi 50 along with old Talbot's, Saab's, Volvo's and apparently Jaguar's and BMW's too. Hell I didn't know until very recently BMW and Jaguar competed in rallies same time period as original Mini Coopers. And of course FSO Polonez 2000 Rally. Long list but hope it's helpful
Volkswagen Fox, I owned a new one throughout the 1990’s. They become popular as a regional competitor. I’ve also seen the wagon version kitted out too. Looked great as a rally car.
A freind of mine had an 84 FB RX-7 rally car he raced regionally, it had a peripheral port 13B, I drove it on his property in the early 90's, what a hoot.
While everyone touts the Group B Audis, there’s been a myriad of less-successful outings and projects. I highly suggest looking into the mid-engine project, the Group S prototype, and the less successful cars after the end of Group B. There’s also Skoda, who actually competed in the 70s and 80s with their own rally cars, and the Citroen BX 4TC, which was basically a heavier, worse quattro that competed in 1986, when even Audi themselves had a skunkworks team going behind the company’s back trying to go mid-engine. I do think highlighting the post-Group B 80s would be the easiest source of unknowns, as that period of Group A is sandwiched between two giants of rally history.
great to know that the Daihatsu Charade completely owned the Safari Rally which was one of the hardest in the world, my parents drove one of those when I was a little kid
08:00 I'm sure that the silver Alfasud Sprint seen here was not one of the original 6C prototypes, but rather a unofficial reproduction using a transverse mounted V6 engine, most likely from an Alfa Romeo 164 or some other model. In 1982/1983, Alfa Romeo did not make any cars powered by a transverse mounted V6 and from all the information and photos I have seen, the Group B Alfasud Sprint 6C was built with a longitudinal mounted V6 engine and gearbox, similar to the Lancia Rally 037. The GTV6 had some success in rallying, including third place overall, and first in Group A. in the tragic Tour de Corse of 1986.
The Fiat Uno Turbo ! That little shitbox climbed on a Group B era WRC podium, albeit in very peculiar circumstances ^^ Oh, and the Talbot Sunbeam, manufacturer win in 1981 while the Quattro was arriving on the scene
Out of all the championship winning cars I've always perceived it as an overlooked one, even though its obviously still a favourite for a lot of people. Ask someone random to name a rally car off the top of their head and I doubt you'd have many people at all who would list the Ascona.
I included it as among all the cars that have won the world championship it is among the least remembered, particularly because it won right as Group B was introduced.
What are some of your favourite forgotten rally cars? Today I wanted to start with some more well-known ones, but if I do make future parts I'd love to delve into the world of kit cars and regional rally competitions, as well as your suggestions of course!
Part 2 is out! ruclips.net/video/AFFMs_YOznc/видео.html
A little car called the Phoenix Ashos 👀
Always loved the Lada 2108
Look at some Škodas, like the 130 and the RS. Favorit actually won some WRC events and the footage from the 1994 Finnish rally is absolutely amazing the drivers were giving it proper beans.
A rally car called trabant wants to join in the party
The CItroen Group B, the old Alfa Romeo Group B (they actually had a working Gourp B car), and the Nissan Group B car.
If a part 2 would come, it’d be sick for a more in-depth look at cars like: the Skoda Octavia wrc, Proton Iriz R5, Nissan Micra kit car, Seat cordoba wrc evo 1-3, Moskvich/aleko 2141KR, Ford escort Rs2000 or the Skoda Felicia Kit car!
don't forget the nissan pulsar gti R
Megane Maxi KitCar too, although those are relatively known!
Also the corolla castrol car
My Dad had a Octavia Evo 2 WRC car and it was a beast unreal on gravel! Look at my Picture that’s it their
For some unusual reason I find the 323 such an unique little car and I like it so much
They're very cheap here in Europe, just check for rust! Older Mazdas rust like crazy, I have a 626 '93, and let me tell you I know that from personal experience lmao
The turbo 1.6L motor in this car is actually the base for the miata motor!
great work Jackoh, Just waiting for a part 2 (BMW M1, Nissan Sunny, Citroen Visa, Citroen BtX, Suzuki SX4)
That Charade 926R is one of the sickest cars I have ever seen!
It kinda reminds me of the Clio V6
featuring De Tomaso amused me too !
Great video, I have always been a big fan of the Mazda rx7 rally, love the styling and the livery, and of course the rotary
Tom McGeer was the Canadian champ like two or three years in a row with an RX7
One car that you should've totally mentioned is the Mazda 323, but not the normal 323, but its weird rally version, the *6 wheeled with **_2 Rotary Engines,_* yes that thing existed, kinda like the Tyrell P34 but rally car (even the 2 extras wheels are on the front, all 4 wheels steering).
Now, as expected, this car is very unknow, but there are some footage of it on the dirt, and pics of its 2 Wankel Engines, one in the front (like a normal car) and the other in the back (like a Group B version), and dont forget its Gigantic rear wing that reminds of a Pikes Peak car
My favourite forgotten rally cars was group b ta64 toyota celica in 1985 driven by juha kankunnen still remembered that car jumps on safari rally kenya.
The Ferrari rally car used the same wheels as the Lancia Stratos Group B cars.
If I remember correctly the Stratos also used the Ferrari v6 engine from the Dino.
Lancia Stratos were built for Group 4 and Group 5, not Group B.
Had a 323 TX 2wd back in '88, very good hot hatch. I sold it to my brother in '08. Car is in original condition, with a vrery little rust, has 180tkm on clock and drives well. Bro desn't want to give it back, he loves it.
Unironically the TR7 is an underrated car and this is a pretty good reason as to why.
Man I adored watching old footage of the RX-7 going at the rally stages. Always wished that Mazda was more present in motorsports. But Le Mana really did Mazda dirty.
Part two would be very welcomed. Some of my favs are the Group B Mitsubishi Starion & Citroen BX 4TC, MR2 222D Group S proto, and the FSO Polonez 2000
Drinking game: take a shot everytime is mentioned Quattro dominance
The one that I fairly recently saw that i absolutely love is the Chevy Sonic RS with an aero-kit attached. Looked awesome.
For Part 2 Would be more of 1990-2010 era car's like Seat, Proton, VW (Time before The Polo R) And more of the age and Great video Theese are the content i like to see. 🙂
Seat Cordoba Wrc from 90s was beautiful...
Who would've thought that my mom's Daihatsu mini van was once competitor in rally back in the day.
Very good.
Wartburg, Lada and Trabant could be mentioned, too.
Always makes me sad when brands go bankrupt.
Great video by the way!
We need a part two of this kind of video
Part two would be nice, because I thought you would be touching upon the vauxhaul chevettes that participated in the late 70's qua early 80's era.
Mazda 323 is my favourite car in RBR, such a beast 😅
The TR7 was cool. I remember when those came out. We lived near a Sports Car dealership and I would ride my bicycle over there and just stare at the cars. So futuristic
Hey Jackoh, very interesting video and hope you make it new series. Thanks for all your previous videos aswell.
Few suggestions for part 2: Seat Cordoba WRC, Hyundai Accent WRC, Proton Iriz R5, Proton Satria Neo S2000 and Lada 112 VK S2000 from newer ones.
From older ones few of the kitcars like Hyundai Coupe, Opel Astra, Seat Ibiza and Renault's. Vauxhall Chevette and BMW M1 could also feature. Along with Audi 200 Quattro and Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 4x4. Mercedes you talked about a bit and Audi 50 along with old Talbot's, Saab's, Volvo's and apparently Jaguar's and BMW's too. Hell I didn't know until very recently BMW and Jaguar competed in rallies same time period as original Mini Coopers. And of course FSO Polonez 2000 Rally.
Long list but hope it's helpful
Volkswagen Fox, I owned a new one throughout the 1990’s. They become popular as a regional competitor. I’ve also seen the wagon version kitted out too. Looked great as a rally car.
A freind of mine had an 84 FB RX-7 rally car he raced regionally, it had a peripheral port 13B, I drove it on his property in the early 90's, what a hoot.
While everyone touts the Group B Audis, there’s been a myriad of less-successful outings and projects. I highly suggest looking into the mid-engine project, the Group S prototype, and the less successful cars after the end of Group B.
There’s also Skoda, who actually competed in the 70s and 80s with their own rally cars, and the Citroen BX 4TC, which was basically a heavier, worse quattro that competed in 1986, when even Audi themselves had a skunkworks team going behind the company’s back trying to go mid-engine.
I do think highlighting the post-Group B 80s would be the easiest source of unknowns, as that period of Group A is sandwiched between two giants of rally history.
1979 Vauxhall Chevette HSR Works Rally Car was a car I loved to see race. Also the lancia stratos was entertaining to watch.
Nice video
Fabulous! Great video.
3:48 my late dads last car, the gtx, fantastic little beast
great to know that the Daihatsu Charade completely owned the Safari Rally which was one of the hardest in the world, my parents drove one of those when I was a little kid
0:42 That Quattro and Impreza making me feel some kinda way
Can you do a video with a more in detail review of the 323/ familia gtx/ gtr and or pulsar gti r
08:00 I'm sure that the silver Alfasud Sprint seen here was not one of the original 6C prototypes, but rather a unofficial reproduction using a transverse mounted V6 engine, most likely from an Alfa Romeo 164 or some other model. In 1982/1983, Alfa Romeo did not make any cars powered by a transverse mounted V6 and from all the information and photos I have seen, the Group B Alfasud Sprint 6C was built with a longitudinal mounted V6 engine and gearbox, similar to the Lancia Rally 037. The GTV6 had some success in rallying, including third place overall, and first in Group A. in the tragic Tour de Corse of 1986.
There is another car worth of mentioning it in this topic, a citroen bx 4 tc
Definitely would like a part 2 but i dont have any car suggestions because i forgot them
I wld like to see Part 2. I would like to see the Datsun 1600 SSS, Datsun 160J Datsun 240Z , Toyota Celicas etc of the 1968-1972 eras
The Nissan gtir or sunny did not set the world on fire in rallying but great road cars
PART 2 WHEN!?
I'd love to see the Porsche 911 Rally and the Ascona 1 station wagon rally
Opel did had some sucsses before the group B came out and very good pilots too
You forgot to mention the Opel Kadett E GSI/Vauxhall Astra GTE Group B model.
The Fiat Uno Turbo !
That little shitbox climbed on a Group B era WRC podium, albeit in very peculiar circumstances ^^
Oh, and the Talbot Sunbeam, manufacturer win in 1981 while the Quattro was arriving on the scene
Mazda RX7 4X4 that did in fact beat the Audi Quattro
Was that a fc chasis? I saw a old vhs of a white and blue 4wd fc3 and it was absolutely brutal.
Suzuki Ignis sport was a cool looking rally car.
THOSE OPEL'S SEXY
Tony Pond manx SD1 nuff said 😅
Part 2 please
part 2 Ford Puma S1600/Kitcar, Lada VFTS
More please. Saab 96 rally car
Well i wouldnt consider the Ascona forgotten since Walter fuck Röhrl became Campion in it
But maybe it is a bit more represented here in Germany
Out of all the championship winning cars I've always perceived it as an overlooked one, even though its obviously still a favourite for a lot of people. Ask someone random to name a rally car off the top of their head and I doubt you'd have many people at all who would list the Ascona.
@@JackohMotors I agree with you. I think it's least well remembered championship winning driver/car used combo.
If only the 323 had a more powerful 2.0L turbo engine instead, it could've been like Japan's Lancia Delta Integrale.
Triumph TR7 V8 take a 3th place in 1980 1000 Lakes Rally.
Seeing a world champion car in a forgotten cars list is a bit strange. The ascona isn’t really forgotten.
I included it as among all the cars that have won the world championship it is among the least remembered, particularly because it won right as Group B was introduced.
TLDR, how a rotary went rallying... Well, ANY car can go rally
I’m that old Iv forgotten my forgotten rally cars 👴🏼
Pulsar gtir. Subaru Leone rx turbo. Mitsi starion
BMW M1 anyone?
oh boy if you thought 2022 was bad for ferrari lol
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