Flydigi Vader 3 Pro - Literally one step from perfection
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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▬ Chapters ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 - Intro & Unboxing
2:19 - Ergonomics and build quality
7:08 - Flydigi Dock
7:26 - RGB Lights / Switch Testing
9:04 - Analog Sticks and Dpad
10:27 - Airmouse / Polling Rates
11:01 - Bluetooth Issue fixed
13:18 - Flydigi PC Space 3.0
15:15 - Trigger Vibration
18:57 - Mobile App
17:30 - Secret Calibration Mode
18:16 - Teardown
23:09 - Final Thoughts 
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Your work of showing the control in detail and showing everything it does and all the positive and negative points is incredible, congratulations on the work, I don't see people as dedicated to showing a product in a sincere way as you are
19:36 - Finally, some nice, sensible design choices!. Now, this is how I see "Trigger Stops" Or "Hair Triggers" work combined with regular ones. That's a nice.. "switching" design.
this guy is absolutely underrated man. thanks bro for the nice clear review.
Amazing review, you're one of the best reviewers on YT! Thanks for all the useful links!
Thank you so much for this! I could not for the life of me figure out how to get the controller to work properly in bluetooth. The documentation and support online is terrible! Now it works like a charm!!
Brother, you are a Master of your craft. This was ridiculously in-depth. Kudos.
Thanks man! It's both a review and tutorial. I learned how to use my controller from this vid. Well done!
You're welcome!
if you need any help you can call me on the channel's discord server!
Haha yep, stared like 5 hours at the chinese manual and still dumbstrucked on what to do
Best review I have seen on the device so far❤. Thanks for informing me about how to switch Bluetooth modes. Flydigi really need to get a native English speaker to go through their instruction manuals before posting. I purchased the one piece zoro version of this controller and I love it so far. Coming from the 8bitdo ultra controller to this I have to agree that they need to add button configuration to the phone app for more convenience. Also I found one of the thumb sticks seems a little to easy to detach. I did hit one major issue that was a dampener today. When I connected the controller to my steam deck today it recognised it as an xbox controller but the thumb sticks wouldn't work. Super weird. All other buttons and dpad were fine.
Just tried again and still the sticks won't work on steam deck. Super weird
Apex 2 with hall sticks , hybrid triggers like in vader 3 and 500hz polling rate ( or higher ) will be perfect dual analog controller :D
This review made my decision to get one today. They had a $10 off coupon on Amazon. Nice work on this review!
You won't regret it, its an amazing controller
how's it?
@@willy7968 after a few months, it's really good!
Agreed, the lack of extra buttons near the trigger button is a deal breaker. I've been using Apex 2, and really love it but A button started to exhibit double click,. Also i really like the snappy trigger button on Apex 2 since i never play racing or shooter using controller. From your review, Vader 3 pro since like a much better choice for me vs Apex 3, but yea i will miss the extra trigger buttons
I confess that after I started using the Mobapad M9 I find it a little bit lacking if it doesn't have HD rumble, in my previous controls I normally turned it off, but now I find it fun to use in this mode
but it depends, for PC games HD rumble is not really that important, but it definetly makes the difference if you're playing on the switch
@@VKsChannel I agree, I just ended up liking this "zap" that it does instead of the conventional shake
@@VKsChannel does the back buttons feel comfortable? U didn't talk about it
I think it's important to point out you can calibrate the analog sticks, LT/RT and even the D-pad pressing all buttons issue by holding Start + Select + D-pad Up and doing circle motions/pressing them.
You can also update the controller's firmware by changing the app's language to chinese.
Awesome review, thank you!
Great thorough review 👍
Got mine this week, honestly I expected the worst but was surprised.
I like it more than my Elite 2, even the back buttons are easy to get used to,
still prefer the Elite 2 back buttons, but the vader 3 pro are just fine.
Finally, a controller where my A button registers 100% of the time, I look at you Microsoft...
My dpad, doesn't do that, they probably fixed it, not sure if by software or hardware.
The select button is in a bad position, the stick is in the way..
Sometimes it disconnects, but didn't happen often yet, I hope it won't get worse, the dongle looks pretty cheap...
reWASD support is there, but there has been an issue with reWASD, that controller will lose its connection, and you have to turn it off and on to reconnect, only happens in wireless mode and with reWASD, not related to my other disconnect issue.
Now I consider buying the dock, but I am not sure how long this controller will work fine, lots of ppl reported issues after 2 weeks, some after months.. I hope I am lucky.
Its an all mechanical controller so you can probably replace any defective switches
Incredible review!
your videos are amazing
Thanks Goodness I found info about this controller, I was dreaming to get Xbox elite controller but not anymore. I really really liked this controller. Will get it soon.
the Vader 4 pro is already released. You're the one I am looking forward for the review of it. Please do once you get your hands on it!
It's coming soon
theire is another way to configure the back buttons (atleast for pc). with rewasd you can make controller configs that allow for unique mappings on the back buttons.
I'm going to wait for another generation. I'd like to see a return of the bxy wheel, and I'd like to see the implementation of pressure sensitive face buttons like the PS2 had (I do a lot of ps2 emulation gaming). Just adds some extra extra versatility to an almost perfect controller.
One thing I miss in their Windows app is the option to test the triggers vibration intensity . There is an option to controller rumble, but not for the triggers
Thanks. Does this work on Macs (macOS Sonoma) using Enjoyable app and does it have Bluetooth?
I plan to use a gamepad to play the amazng Shenmue (the father of all open-world games, the first open-world game) 1, 2 emulated focusing on leveling up Ryo's martial arts skills (the RPG element), after that other games like the best shooter by far: Sin & Punishment 2.
What's your favorite controller now you're using for PC gaming?
God bless.
I like this build set up with trigger stops hall effect and rear buttons is this the best option for those traits?
which one do you recommend to use in forza and similar games. vader 3 pro? apex 4?
.looks like it got JH16 Hall effect joysticks which is excellent.
maybe you can adjust the d-pad with a thin o-ring underneath it.
Just a heads up
Trigger vibration works the same way in wired, dongle, and switch mode
It only works properly via bluetooth mode whem connected to pc (and if you disabled the vibration in the profile, you still get vibration in bluetooth mode)
Just a stupid question, do i need to unplug the dongle to use bluetooth mode? or can i stay plug and just use bluetooth mode and it will read as bluetooth mode?
@@Daffamalik143 sadly doesn't work that way, even if you put it on bluetooth on the back when connected via wired, windows will still read it as an xbox 360 controller
So no
aww rip, i really too lazy to plug and unplug dongle haha. Thanks for the test, my v3p still on shipment @@realislit8064
That is most unfortunate, as I didn't put a bluetooth card in my PC.
Ah so that why this controller weird. I wonder why my vader 3 pro not vibrate in same location when i use ds4. I thought i hot bad products. I try it later.
Gratefull for the teardown. I just got this controller in the mail, and the left hall effect trigger was not functioning. opened up the controller according to your instructions, only to find the left trigger magnet had fallen out. So be careful how you handle this controller. the magnets are poorly glued in their position. i used some double sided tape to put and hold it back in place. Great review.
Followup: after a week of use, the D-pad got loosy goosy, and is rattling all over. That D-pad design isn't really that optimal. it doesn't directly effect usability, but a design flaw none the less.
Thinking out of the box: the D-pad design has a pivot point in the middle (that doesn't interact with anything). wouldn't it help to stick a hard foam pad in the center of the D-pad switches and have the pivot point rest on that, making it impossible to hit all switches together when pressing in the center point, and also adding some tension, to circumvent the looseness of the design?
Estava a meses entrando no canal para ver se tinha saído a review desse controle
I received mine today, liking it so much
Still works fine?
@@willy7968 Yup, perfectly fine, it's the best controller I own by far
Still?
@@stellerate yupp
It’s perfect
Still no problem
Thank you for this video!
I wonder if this controller would work with the 8bitdo adapter since it can natively connect with the switch (xbox mode for the newest model). Maybe that would allow you to connect it better with iOS and Windows.
Wish it had a 3.5mm audio jack, trying to find a solution for my Xbox; i got it work on it with the Mayflash Magic X Adapter; but i hate the thought of having to use a wirless headset.
I wonder if glueing like a 1mm (or less) piece of plastic or rubber on the Dpad's central pivot would fix the issue with all the buttons pressing at once.
Is it working on smartphone for arena breakout ?? Or should i get the pro 2 ?
Perfect channel
I don't see where the software supports swapping the stick inputs (greenthumb)?
Yep. It just lacks the extra shoulder buttons. So close to the perfect controller. It will eventually have reWASD support too.
What extra shoulder buttons?
@@samsonite187Some other Flydigi controllers have two extra shoulder buttons (next to the bumpers and triggers on the top of the controller).
@@Midori_Hoshi what would you map these to in the instance of a fps?
@@samsonite187You can use them like regular buttons. For games that have a lot of moves, it can be very useful to have more buttons. I don't play FPS games.
The trigger isn't digital in both modes. It is a Hall Effect trigger and it is customisable with different levels.
Technically isn't digital in "clicky" mode, but in fact it's just 0 and 1.
Great video, I tested the Bluetooth mode with my PC and it seems to work, I tried the controller with PPSSPP and Cyberpunk and it worked, however 1-2 button mapping may have been wrong. also the airmouse feature was on by default. Can you please advise how can we use the Airmouse mode in Xinput mode ? as pressing the button next to Home is now enabling the Airmouse mode, I believe its a very good feature. Thanks
You can't use airmouse on xinput sadly
Hey VK, I just got my controllers and I plan to use these for the Switch. The A/B and X/Y buttons are opposite compared to the Switch. Do you know if it's possible to open the controller and swap the plastic button positions?
i showed that in the teardown
Can you remap the individual extra buttons on STEAM input?
Simplesmente insuperável.
vc tem esse controle? tô na maior dúvida em pega-lo ou o 8bit do ultimate (pensando na durabilidade )
@@filipeoliveira8050
Tenho. É excelente.
Tenho p SN30Pro (estilo Super Nintendo EUA), o Gulikit KK2Pro e o Vader 3 Pro.
De longe o Vader 3 Pro é o melhor em tudo.
Mas o estilo do SN30Pro fica ali enfeitando o PC pra sempre porque eu amo ele.
I'm a little bit late on seeing this but I've been looking into getting this controller after being... _disappointed_ by other controllers crapping out due to shoddy hardware or build quality.
I'm curious, cause I'm not seeing it brought up on the store page... Does the controller come with _both_ the cable for standard wired play AND the USB dongle for bluetooth play included?
Asking 'cause for the longest time I've mostly preferred wired controllers for their next-to-zero input lag, but I might be actually inclined to give wireless play more of a chance if it doesn't mean having to get the dongle separately...
Yes
Hello, does controller keeps (saves) profiles even without running application in the background on pc?
Buttons are fully remappable in both xinput and dinput mode, or only in dinput mode? What I mean to be able to assign any button you want to back buttons, not just limiting them to mirroring existing buttons from controller.
Can you remap buttons/functions to specific controller movement (gyro)? Beitong zeus have this feature where for example you can assign space when you lift up controller.
Yes it can do all that but I'm not sure about the gyro
Great review, thank you! I just ordered the controller. Do you suggest to use its dongle, or bluetooth connection on a PC?
On pc use the dongle
what's the diff between 1000hz and 500hz? only make sense in FPS games? what about beat'em up games?
Great video! Vader 3 pro has NFC support?
I'm kinda glad they removed M5 and M6 buttons, with my slightly bigger than average hands and fingers it's a nightmare to pull triggers all the way down without constantly pressing extra bumpers.
P.S. Dpad was fixed btw
I heavily used it for over a month, and im less impressed than I was at first. I already have 10% deadzone on analogs because they were suppose to have BETTER centering than previous generations, but the reality is the spring in those is so weak that centering starts to be a major problem after just a few weeks.
This is sad news to hear, I just bought it and if it gives me issues I’m returning
Any updates?
I am having the same issue. I don't see it lasting a year.
They use the same JH16 Hall effect sticks that all these controllers use, they aren't manufacturing them. These from the factory have a 0% deadzone, when they should have 3%-7% according to the spec sheet. Yes, these brand new modules have worse stick drift than a year old Xbox controller, the difference is these will not get worse while your normal Xbox ones will. Use the software to set a 3% center deadzone and set the deadzone to 0% in-game and you should be fine.
@@ATSVRusshow did it go?
Hey we need Gamesir t4 cyclone pro review! Please! We need to compare it with Vader 3 pro!
Hope you buy Vader 4 Pro Assassins Creed version,it so beautiful❤
u tried to overclock the controller? u think it will work?because i am used to ps4 controller on 1000hz polling rate
Theres a new design flaw discovery, the microswitch trigger seems to be connected to the same pcb that has the gyro so using the microswitch trigger will make the gyro jitter even if the controller is held down on a stable surface
Strange I just played using gyro today and the trigget in the switch position and it was fine
Have you tried calibrating your controller?
@@VKsChannel the jitter is very small, you can try via mapping the gyro to mouse on pc, hold the controller down on a stable surface and then press the triggers, on normal theres no movements but with the microswitch it triggers said movement
some youtuber report the reception distance is too short of this model,
Thanks a lot for the review mate!
I should buy a controller for my PC (I also got a Swith so if it's compatible with it I would like it but if it isn't it's no problem), so I was looking at controllers featuring the JH16 hall effect sensors like this one.
So far that's the best one I found, would you advise me to go for it or are there any better options?
Price is not an issue
This is the best option right now
But if you want to see other models I'd recommend there is the mobapad m9 compatible with pc and switch but no hall effect sticks unfortunately
And the 8bitdo ultimate which is also prettt solid
There are reviews for both of them
@@VKsChannel I'll check them out, thanks for the help!
flydigi apex 3 elite is best of the best👌
in your opinion, Is the pivot situation in its dpad can be fixed? looks like it already has a pivot but it just doesnt work properly?
Honestly, it isn't a real problem in games (even fighting ones) because the amount of force it takes to register all 4 buttons while pressing on the center of the dpad is quite high, youll never press that hard on your dpad during regular gameplay.
Ótimo review
Valeu!
Heya! will there be any coverage for the machenike g5 pro? heard pretty mixed feelings about it but I'm still intrigued nonetheless, just for aesthetics alone
its the next review in the line
@@VKsChannel Awesome! can't wait 🔥
i just bought and received my APEX 2 last week... been awesome Gamepad for me... and i still didn't charge it coz when i try to charge it, it still on green...
One big question i have is that if you can set keyboard inputs to some of the buttons, even if its only the back ones or the c z ones
you can customize ANY button to anything in the computer app, just u cant change the analogs (only when u press them)
I wish these just looked more normal, I'd buy the gulikit kk3 if not for the membrane buttons... which will probably get fixed next generation, so I hope anyways
The chinese menu option is to set left mouse click on the button.
yo VK can you set the sticks to start at 19 on the aim curve? that point you dragged around can that fully touch the left side of that graph?
You cant set the stick range just the starting point by editing the curves
Will you be reviewing Beitong Zeus 2 will probably be your new number 1
Sadly no
It's too expensive and beitong didn't want to send a sample either
how did you change the led effects?
Hi! been watching both this and the gulikit KK3 review. I'm still not too sure which of them is better. Which of those would you recommend?
Vader 3 pro definetly
Does the Vader 3 Pro have trigger vibrations like in Forza?because it's not an official xbox controller, dont know. Would love to get your input.
Yes I tested it in the video
have you tested the gyro sensitivity in native supported swithc games? i have testedit and the gamepad is way to sensitive on switch. what i mean is i tried a game that uses the natural sensitivity scale for the gyro. on the 1:1 setting the controller should translate 360 rotation to 360 rotation ingame (boomerang x on switch). when i put it on this setting a full rotation of 360 becomemes way more then 360 degrees ingame. So it is more like 450 degrees ingame. When i tried to explain it to flydigi they just told me to make a video. wich i dont have the means for right now. So the sensitivity of the gyro on switch is not at 100% but somewhere above it. wich is wrong. it should not be up to the customer to tinker with it until if feels like it should on switch.
Yea I tested it but I didn't feel a difference
@@VKsChannel i dont know how well your knowledge is on most gyro implmentations. but theire are not many games that seem to use the natural sensitivity scale, and have a 1:1 setting aswell. most games have a sensitivity that is below 1:1 this means 3i tried the 360 degrees of controller turn is 360 ingame. i tried the gyro on boomerang x, both with a 8 bit do ultimate bluethooth (wich seems to scale correctly witht the 1:1 setting). but the flydigi vader 3 and the vader 3 pro had horrible scaling. It turned 450 degrees ingame on a 360 full controller turn.
Only people who have experienced gyro with the natural sensitivty scale, and can sense the differen, will notice the problem with the gyro. Now i am waiting for rewasd to fully support this gamepad.
Right now the gamepad is limited to the switch mode on pc. Wich means the back buttons cant have unique inputs and are restricted to copies of already existing buttons.
Flydigi seems slow in delivering the technical specs to rewasd for support to happen. other flydigi gamepads like the apex 2 are fully supported by rewasd and allow for unique mappings on the back buttons.
Arrisquei comprar um aqui, valeu!
É um ótimo controle
@@VKsChannel opa, xô avisar, tá com um probleminha nas timestamps aí!
"18:57 - Mobile App" parece meio perdido/errado, e como o tempo dele tá acima do "17:30 - Secret Calibration Mode" e do "18:16 - Teardown" eles não aparecem por estarem depois dele!
Enfim, parabéns pelo trabalho!
Saí do KingKong 2 Pro pra ele, e puts, senti falta de 2 coisas:
- combinação pra ativar/desativar turbo individualmente sem ter que usar o app
- textura um pouco mais áspera na traseira dele pra ficar antiderrapante
Can setting with phone?or only with pc?
Does it allow you to remap the extra buttons to do combinations? Like clicking Z to activate a combo press of Y+B?
Yes
Thanks! Subbed. Your video is super thorough. I had wondered how hard it would be to replace the battery if I ever needed to. Much appreciated! @@VKsChannel
@@anonymousmouse1032 one detail is that in order to program a button combo to the shortcuts you'll have to use a macro
I wonder why these boards seem so dirty. I dont know if its flux or water residue.
This or KK3? I have a KK3 and ordered a second one, should I return for one of these? Does it feel cheap? KK# feels solid
Comprou?
Using a converter like Wingman XE2 is there any way to use the Vader 3 Pro to play PS5 GAMES on PS5!? 🤔🤷
Hey,
did u find third party controller for PS5 ?
Thanks man :) After half a year of use, do you find that the joystick is wobbly or drift?
No it is perfectly fine
Hi anyone knows how to have vibration while playing NBA2K using vader 3 pro? I activated it in settings in NBA2K
since the V3P can be set to Xbox Bluetooth mode, does that mean the controller can connect to an Xbox console?
no, unless u use an adapter
if only it has the m5 and m6 button 😮💨
Who needs them....
@@user-iw6wr1vr7t me 😂. I'm using them as my A and B button so I have the freedom to use the right analog stick using my thumb
I'm currently considering buying a controller, as you said this is only the 2nd best, what's the best controller on your list?
My favourite controller so far is the flydigi apex 2 ruclips.net/video/o3k9aJFxn8k/видео.htmlsi=oUq-zznt4vItMUam
What control freeks work for these?
Analog triggers ?
is it possible to at a chatpad to this?
OH NO they remove the shoulder button,.... those one are the best extra button ever.
Is this controller compatible with ps5?
Hello good sir amazing video as always!! Can I have a request? Can you test the input lag of the Bluetooth connectivity? I will use this primarily as a switch controller. The input delay on my KK2 is horrible and I want to replace it. Thank you!
Input lag on the switch or pc?
@@VKsChannel on switch sir.
I saw a reddit post form u/Johnnypuch and the input delay for xinput is 39.33 and for switch is 14.4 average. Is this accurate
thank you so much ,
what would you say about the problem reported by many as a stick drift ?
they said that this controller have a very bad spring that could cause drift within the first 3 months of use
can you please inform us what is your opinion ?
It depends on the user
Some players put too much force on the sticks and its inevitable that using the controller this way will lead to damage on the sticks
My vader 3 pro is perfectly fine
And if you never had problem with the springs on analog sticks you'll be fine too
@@VKsChannel does pressing R3 or L3 affect it ?
@@VKsChannel thank you so much
On pc, is there any way to save configs to the controller, or does space station need to remain open?
You can save 4 Profiles on the controller. After programming the software is not needed.
pls do gamesir t4 cyclone pro
Brother I wanna buy a new controller now my last controller was apex 2 elite it was damaged so in Bangladesh I had 2 option Vader 3 pro and apex 3 please tell what should I choose iam using only on mobile and in Xbox game pass. Please help me
Vader 3 pro or apex 4
@@VKsChannel I wanna buy the apex 4 but we don't have this on our country. Thanks for the suggestion
does the dpad on the vader 3 pro feel alot like the standard xbox series X dpad? It has the same shape and look but one difference you already mentioned was that you can press down the middle and activate all directions.
The reason im asking is because personally ive gotten used to the xbsx dpad so much that i dont want to get used to anything else, so a controller with 500+hz and this dpad would be a dream. Thank you!
The vader 3 is very very different
Its higher and way less noisy
But it's the closest thing to the xbox dpad right now
my vader 3 pro arrived, and i had to put deadzone in 8% in flydigi app to avoid centering drift, is this a normal behavior ? ( i've already tried calibrate but it was the same behavior)
It should have a small center deadzone but mine came calibrated out of the box already
Next maybe Gamesir T4 cyclone
what the name of the red controller you use at the end of the video /
Big big won rainbow 2 pro
Shoukd have been a 1000hz polling rate
Can you use the dongle for better latency on the switch?
No
Hi I saw another video from someone said after 2 month used experience of Vader 3 pro got analog stick drift problem.
I just wondering do you or anyone having same issue after long play time of gaming experience with Vader 3 Pro.
no problems here
Hi, I'm trying to buy this controller for a fair price but there is no good seller, question :
If I buy the Vader 3 is there any difference? The price is the same and the publication is not clear
you mean vader 3 and vader 3 pro?
yeah the vader 3 pro is better, it has hall effect sticks while the normal one doesn't