Get Your Old Gameport Joystick Working with Windows 10 | Install Retro Joystick on Windows 7 8 PC
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2016
- How do I get my old gameport joystick working on my Windows 10 PC? If you're looking to install and calibrate your old PC joystick on a new version of Windows, this should help.
After reviewing all those old gameport PC joysticks, I wanted to use my old joystick with my Windows 10 PC. I wanted to play old games (GOG, Steam etc) with an old stick, but under a new version of Windows.
The Rockfire gameport to USB adapter isn't the only gameport to USB adapter out there (There is always the dependable Mayflash series of adapters), but I've found nothing but success converting my old 15-pin gameport PC joysticks into fully-functional USB Windows 10 joysticks. By setting up the Rockfire accordingly, I've been happily playing old DOSBOX games, old Windows games and my retro game library from both GOG and Steam. Considering the fact that a good modern USB Windows 10 compatible joystick would set me back around £50 or more, installing an old gameport joystick on a new machine is a cost-saving exercise, as well as a bit of retro fun.
All of my retro PC joysticks were cheap as chips. You can pick up a gameport joystick for less than a tenner (most of mine were around £5), and a Rockfire gameport to USB adapter for about £15. Most people think that an old gameport joystick won't be compatible with their Windows 7, 8 or Windows 10 PC, so they end up being sold off cheap. You can take advantage of that - or stop yourself binning your old joystick!
Installing and calibrating an old PC joystick on a new Windows PC is a doddle with the Rockfire. The joystick installs under standard WIndows drivers and the usual joy.cpl joystick calibration works perfectly still in Windows 10. Dust off your old gameport PC joystick and get it working with new versions of Windows today!
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Years later and this video is still doing service to people thank you so much I honestly was at a loss for what the dongles name was until I stumbled upon this video now to check out more of your content
I'm so grateful of this. It makes me happy that this video is still helping people. I'm still gaming with my Cyborg 2000 in 2021 - that's value for money!
Matty this has made my absolute day! Good one for repping the heck out of X-Wing too. I'm now off to get one of these
Thanks matey! I highly recommend checking charity shops, eBay and car boot sales. You can get them for ~£5 practically anywhere. Then the world of Descent, Freespace, X-Wing and WING COMMANDER can be yours!
Thanks - that was very helpful.
I have a gravis PC pro special edition. Will this adapter work with it?
thx a lot bro, had one of these laying around, didn't work on windows 7. now my old top gun stick rocks again on mode 1. Cheers
Whahey! Perfect, I'm so glad this little video helped out a gamer in need. Thanks for popping in, mate.
Me too :) works like a charm. Played hundreds of hours flying the jet and heli on Battlefield 2 with my 1986 thrustmaster Top Gun untill Gamespy was taken down and the game lost its multiplayer mode. Now the game has been revived (battlelog.co/) and the stick works again, was so great to be able to fly again with my good old stick. Thx again and keep up the good work!
That's wicked news. Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, only catching up with some comments now. Aww, I still remember the lament when Gamespy went down :-( Bring back PlanetTribes!
Hi there!
I have a wingman like the one you show at 1:18 and the adapter you suggest...
It works fine but the crosshair is NEVER in the center...
Even if I breathe it moves everywhere, I think I'd need to increase the deadzone...
How can I do that?
Thanks!
So, what's the max amount of buttons/axis this thing can handle? I'm going to use it on the CH Fighterstick and pro throttle, all the hat switches tho...
does this work with the CH f-16 flight stick and throttle? I also have pedals lying about
Works with force feedback speed wheel?
Will it work with Genius F-31D?
It uses some special driver with filtering for HAT, digital throotle and additional buttons.
I have heard of people getting the Genius F-16 working, so it's hopefully a hop, skip and a jump to the F-31. You might lose a few buttons, but Mode 1 or 2 seems like it would suit this stick.
thank you for the helpful video. Do you know if this is adaptor is also compatible with the PC Flight force PRO?
Great job :-)
I have the Gravis blackhawk pictured @1:41. Can you elaborate on what you mean by it works but "far from perfect"? This joystick was amazing when it was used for flight games and X-wing on a windows 98 computer which recently bit the dust after 25 years. Now, on windows 7 I can't get it to show up with a belkin adapter and any USB drivers I have found.
I have a few of these lying around somewhere, the quality on some of them are insane. What joystick do you recommend as the best? And how does the joysticks through the USB adapter work on more modern games?
As for which one I'd recommend, I lined these six sticks up not too long ago - ruclips.net/video/HE7T-JzjxJs/видео.html - The Saitek Cyborg is far and away the best stick of the lot. The joysticks are fully compatible with Windows; they will work flawlessly with any and all modern games. I am just having a blast with old games :-)
I want to get my old sidewinder 3d pro working again, if you put it into analog and then mode 2 on the adapter does the throttle work? you say you loose the base buttons (dont care) and the rudder works but what about throttle?
Hey, which mode is best for the old school Gravis Gamepad?
Thats wild I bought the same exact adapter before I found this video. Just couldnt get windows to detect it plugged in. Thank you!
No problem 👍
man this music with my old stick is making me to nostalgic
How well would something like this work on a Gravis Firebird2 programmable joystick?
Years ago i bought a super joy box7 gameport to usb adapter, and it never really worked for the firebird2 no matter what setting it was on.
It would recognize the joybox, but there was no way to calibrate the stick. The crosshair always went haywire.
I have an old Steering Wheel with the pedals. Would this work on this adaptor too or should I rather get a PCI sound card instead?
Hey,Is this any way to get the Logitech wingman force to work on modern games like forza horizon 4?
Pls reply
And people say the Sidewinder 3D Pro wasnt supported with these. Shows what they know! Thanks so much
can i use this with the SunCom F15 ? i want to keep most of the buttons working
Does this work with a Suncom f15e hotas?
Fantastic video !!! I purchased a rockfire for my Ms sidewinder 3d pro whit out acknowledging this video then I saw the 4 mode setting I was like.... Great ... Just great !! idk what this is and the manual was crap all I wanna do is play cfs2 like I did in my childhood on my Sony vaio duo core XP system ... thankfully this video put me on the right track and I set my null accordingly and I was gunning down zeros in no time thank you !!!!
Yes! That's awesome buddy, so glad to hear that! What a brilliant payoff 😁
I have a Genius Flight 2000 F-22X I got from my uncle and I bought this converter. I'm just waiting for it to arrive. Do you think it will work?
Hi, I have the both a quickshot warrior 5 and python 5 so which modes are best on the nest usb ? ta
I tried connecting a racing wheel and it only worked on one side. Is the adapter defective?
I have a sidewinder 2 and bought an adapter off Amazon but it's not recognizing controller but it is the adapter. What could be wrong
I'm using the Microsoft side winder FF pro doesn"t work with the adapter, any suggestion
I have a very old Saitek ST50 and... not this adapter, rip. Just a standard USB to Gameport adapter cable. Anything I can do without having to buy the one in the video with the mode switcher?
does the sidewider ffb pro even work on this? ive tried all 4 modes without success..
you got a sub bro😀
Would this work with a steering wheel-pedal combo as well ? :| I have a Logitech kit lying around which I used to love as a kid, but can't use it anymore :(
Yes I believe many people have gotten these working with steering wheel and pedal combos. I suppose technically the devices are sending the same analogue signals, so the process is almost identical.
I bought a sidewinder 2 with ffb to play with MSFS 2020 but when I plug it in it thinks (states) it is an xbox360 controller?! How do I get windows 10 to cooperate? If I uninstall, turn off and replug it happens again. Under device manager I cant update the driver as it says the best one is already installed??
Any advice pls!
I have a Saitek x35f do you think it will work with that joystick? :)
Does this work with digital joysticks like the classic Gravis Gamepad?
Does this work with a Sidewinder 3d Pro joystick? I want to ask before buying it. I got a Belkin adapter for sidewinder and Windows 10 does not recognize it. If it doesn't what are my options? Thanks.
i have an trust formula 1 race master II connected to a usb2.0 to gameport adapter from logilink but i cant get it to work.
can someone please help me?
i tried it on a Quickshot 2, it doesnt work. i cant connect it to my Pc. any ideas where i can get the drivers, i already looked up but it seems they dont exist. ANY HELP PLEASE!?!?!
How do I use it with my CH PRODUCTS FLYING YOKE in CFS1 and CFS2 ?
I was digging around my Grandma's garage, when I found this old CH Flight Stick, almost seemed like original model, does it work?
You tell me! 😁
Yeah, i got the fighterstick. these things look like they could last through a nuclear meltdown... at least on the outside.
i hace a inter act PC SABRE PRO SV-214 with that has 15 pins on connect and only 2 rows, do you think this will work with that connecter
15 pins over two rows sounds like Gameport to me! It should work - you might have to fiddle with the rocker to get full functionality but I see no reason it shouldn't.
Any chance this'll work with a Sidewinder 1.0 Joystick from 96? Would love to play tie fighter, but Win10 doesn't even recognize the stick as existing!
I have problems with my Tevion Erazer MD9814 (it doesn't recognize 2 buttons) and my thrustmaster formula t2 pedals
I am planning to buy a Logitech Light Wingman Joystick for X-Plane (Don't hate me lol, I dont have money) Do you think the Joystick would be compatible with it if I use this method?
Hello, I Have a V4 Forcefeedback racing whell (Interact). Do you now if this adaptar will it work?. Thanks
I'm not certain. IIRC steering wheels use the same fundamental technology as joysticks, so the Thrustmaster setting *should* work with the wheel and the pedals.
Will it work with Zykon JoyWarrior plus?
has anyone ever heard of a kraft thunderstic joy stick /? would this work with the adapter
Does it work on Sidewinder 3D Pro PLUS?
I have an old joystick that I never got into using since childhood, looked up what model it was and it's a radioshack 26-447. I don't have the adapter yet but I''m thinking of getting one. But before I DO get one, I just wanna ask; is this thing usable when playing Microsoft Flight Simulator?
That's almost entirely the point! Depending on the stick, you'll get analogue control, a thrust lever and a few buttons which is perfect for flight sims.
I love my old Logitech wingman. Thank you for showing yours and proving this adapter is an option. Not sure what to make of your mode 2 vs Mode 3 comment.
Now do I spend $23 on the adapter, or $33 on the wingman's modern USB successor?
If I was in your shoes I'd likely plump for the USB version. Unless (like me) you have and older machine that you use your Gameport Wingman with.
would these joysticks also work with modern games that support joysticks?
I have an old 3D0 Pro flightstick. I have a USB adapter for it, but I can't seem to find drivers. Anyone have any ideas?
How about a Suncom F15E Talon with SFS? The buttons are no problem, they emulate keyboard presses and use a PS2 passthrough yoke, but how about the stick and throttle itself?
Yep, apparently it will work. Select Mode 3 (4-Axis, 4-Button) for max compatibility. By all indication, two Rockfire adapters should be able to convert the CH Pro pedals too, for a proper setup.
Fantastic. I love my Suncom Talon and have been wanting to give it a go on a modern machine for a long time now. Thank you!
No problem buddy. Thanks for dropping by, I'm happy I could be of help.
the game you played appears to be from back in the day when these joysticks were used. Will it work in modern games made in ?
The games would have to support controllers, but yeah. You can use joysticks in flight / space sims. It essentially works as a controller in terms of the inputs.
Does the saitek one's hat and throttle work? I bought a different converter, and have been having a lot of trouble with the hat and throttle.
The saitek hat and throttle both work perfectly.
I have interact propad 8 and a usb adapter but cannot get it to work. I even tried installing the drivers from the disk it came with. The adapter came with the controller in the usb starter kit I bought in 2000. in the manual included with the set it says that if it is not working to try the usb hub that is included (I have this) and to install the drivers for that (have this too) except the problem is that the drivers are on a floppy disk so I have no idea how to install them and if I do install them I dont even know if it will work. Please help I want to use this on dolphin emulator.
Forgot to add this but I am on Windows 10 and Windows can tell it is there but no application or calibration can tell when I press a button or move the d-pad. It shows up as Interact Gaming Controller but I cannot do anything with it. (I went to the test area of the controller and it does not sense when I move d-pad or press buttons)
my joystick as a usb port so i dont think it will work on the product so what can i do should i have a disc to go with it
This is a very difficult area. The adapter definitely won't work. Analogue over USB did happen for a short while but this is now no longer supported in windows. What joystick is it? Unfortunately, there's a chance this just won't be recognised :(
Hello, what about the MS Sidewinder FFB Wheel USB? I am searching for ages and could not find a solution to get it to work. Thanks Bernhard Currently I used the USB to 15 PIN convertercable which was shipped with my sidewinder joystick, but it is not recognized in win10... If this nest adapter could fix this i will go and get one asap..
MS Sidewinder FFB Wheel USB Version 1.0 works directly with Win10 64 for me with all inputs responding and force feedback working, also shows up with name and everything in said joy.cpl.
Even Horizon 4 after some in game key mapping, the only issues seems that is has some polling problem between USB and GPU, which stalls GPU usage at 25% if connected, so its sadly unplayable.
Wow, wish I'd have found this before selling my old TM FLCS :( Doing God's work here man, good video. It's going to save us some cash too because my wife wants to try dual sticks and I have a cyborg 2k gameport and was just wondering if there's an adapter out there to USB, thanks again!
I'm so glad that this video keeps on ticking. The Cyborg 2K is the greatest stick of all time!
@@MattyStoked ok let's not get crazy lol. 🤣
hi
i own a microsoft sidewinder joystick and i would like to get it working with flight simulater 98 on my windows 7 pc
can anyone help me with this
thank you
I have a Microsoft SideWinder Precision Pro and I can calibrate it and it works, all of it. but I cant use it. are there certain games that I can use it on because I want to try to play stuff like Minecraft or Overwatch with it just for the fun of it
Please help
Yeah the game will need joystick support I would imagine. You might be able to use something like Joy2Key to map the joystick input to keyboard keypresses, that might work.
Hi All, I have a joystick from my childhood, about 30 years now :) I have a converter, but windows 10 doesn't recognize it. At which point should be the problem? The converter is noname (MCAB), and the joystick also, but at device level, I should see something, if I'm not wrong. Thank you!
Thanks for the video! So, I'm having trouble getting my Sidewinder 3D Pro Plus to work with the Rockfire. On all settings, it isn't picked up via calibration. Any ideas?
The 3D Pro Plus is such a difficult stick to get working. I had trouble with my 3D Pro on my Win98 machine; essentially the sticks were horrible with future-proofing, and don't work with CPUs >66mhz FSB. How are you with a soldering iron? There is a solution, but it's difficult: www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19061
Thanks for the reply!
I appreciate the link! I've soldered car speakers in two cars, and hey, since I have two of these old joysticks, I'll try this out! Whats the worst that can happen? Haha.
I've actually gotten my Xbox One controller working as an alternative for now. It's a bit glitchy, because RT/LT aren't customizable in my favorite old-school games, but it works.
Pretty awesome news about the XB1 pad. I'm intrigued to see if the soldering mission works. Keep us updated :-)
Help I have an saitek ST50 and gameport to usb but my pc will not download
Muchas gracias por el video
Fantastic I was tidying and found my Thrustmaster last week and wondered if I could play Xwing again but now on my Ryzen looks like the Empire has a problem 🙂
Glad I could help. Take it to them, Rogue!
I have a Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D joystick. It was great on my old XP computer but now I have Windows 10. Is there an adaptor that will allow me to use this very complicated stick?
its digital, it already speaks usb, afaik you can snip tehe cable, and wire it to usb. just find out which 4 to connect to the 4 usb.
usb pinout is very simple.
Could I use my Logitech Wingman Force with this? Not the Force 3D .
+Charles McCarthy From what I can see, these adapters struggle with FFB sticks. I don't have a Wingman Force so could only guess. I think it would be okay, as the module is quite a smart little unit. But I can't give a solid answer other than "give it a go"
WIll this work with rudder pedals as well?
Hi! Nice video! Do you think this would work with a Suncom F-15E Hawk joystick?
Regards from the West Midlands
Wheey! UK represent :-) The problem with the F-15E is the PS/2 keyboard throughput, or the slightly unconventional 2-hat design. It's a 2-axis, 4-buttons and 2-hat stick, but could work on the Mode 1 setting. It may even work with the throttle in this mode.
Thank you for the fast reply! I'll tell you once I get it
No problem pal. Please do, it' all adds to the knowledge bank :-)
Of course! Will do! Take care mate
Does it work with Microsoft sidewinder 3d pro plus on windows 10. I want strictly to use it on Google Earth pro simulator
I use a SW 3D Pro _in the video!_ So, yes.
can you list down these joystick supported cool games... only I played with Microsoft Starlancer...please reply
Good classic joystick games: Descent, Forsaken, Freespace, X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Rogue Squadron, Wing Commander (series), X, Elite, Frontier, Freelancer, Starlancer.
New joystick games: Elite Dangerous, Star Conflict, Everspace, NMS, House of the Dying Sun, X Rebirth, Star Citizen
How do I get any of the microsoft sidewinder working on this nest?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance ☺️
Setting 3, from memory. I definitely get a Sidewinder working in the video.
I tried connecting my Logitech Wingman Interceptor, but it seems that Win 10 does not recognize any buttons.
Does anyone who has it know how to make it work?
I have the same problem !!!
Same here!
does it work with a
Addison Technology IBM Joystick
I have an old Trust Predator Lite. I can get the buttons to work but not the joystick movements. Any ideas? I'm using the Rockfire RM-2013 version of the nest.
Is it definitely an analogue stick? I would try all rocker positions, removing and replacing the USB plug each time.
@@MattyStoked , you know, I think I have a dodgy Nest. I cracked open the stick and it is pure analog - a couple of directly wired 100k pots for X-Y. They are definitely working according to my multimeter. I reckon it should work on setting 1 of the Nest but the calibration app in Windows 10 doesn't register anything. Strangely enough though, it does register the buttons :-(
Hello, My name is John. So, I have a Rockfire 15 pin game adapter just as show on your video that I just purchased recently in 2023 online to go with my old Microsoft sidewinder joystick that has three wheels on each side of the joystick. I am utilizing a dell laptop with Windows 10. I plug the rockfire into a usb slot, system recognizes joystick in the system, after going to joy.cpl the setting shows the joy and I start moving the joystick and wheels, buttons to test everything, shows everything seems already calibrated. My dumb question now. How do I actually utilize the joystick to play games like online, or on my system. Because I can't seem actually use it. Like Window 10 does not recognize it? I tried switching different modes too, If I am doing so correctly. Thanks.
If it's coming up in joy.cpl then your system is recognising it. Have you tried using any games? I don't think it will be recognised as an XInput controller, so I doubt more modern games would detect it.
Hi there, I have a Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro, but I have a different adapter. It doesn't have any modes. My computer cannot detect the joystick at all
+Ryan Bayuk The adapter you have is a native "passthrough" unit. Delivering the analogue signal over USB. Your PC won't detect it because modern OSs expect a digital signal. Hence the analogue to digital converter.
Just got the Rockfire RM-203 from Amazon and I think I got a dud. Tried plugging in the adapter into my laptop and desktop which both run Windows 7 Pro 64bit and get nothing. Shouldn't Windows (at the vert least) recognize that I plugged something into the USB port? No noise, no changes in Control panel, no indication of life anywhere. HELP!,,,,,,
Is the joystick plugged into the Rockfire? It won't recognise the device by itself.
nice btw mate, I wonder how to make Logitech Wingman Force to work on Win 7?
i can't seem to get the ST290 pro to work
Bro you make my day I have a old Saitek st50 and now I can use 👏🏾 thank you 🙏🏽
Yes! Great to hear! Glad I could help mate. Enjoy putting that old stick to use :-)
Hello and thanks for the explanation, but my Saitek 3D digital stick does not work on Windows 10-64bits. When i connect it to my port (USB 2.0) mode 2, it recognise 4 axis and buttons, but when i go and calibrate it, it moves just on X axis, not on Y one. If you have any tips, they are more than welcome.
Yeah the "digital" part is what bothers me about that. When sticks started moving over to digital signal, that becomes more difficult for the convertor to deal with.
You mean, the Rockfire does not work with this joystick, confirm?
I can neither confirm nor deny.
0:20 surely it wasn’t just me who saw what was typed in 😂
I have an old logic3 joystick that says pc invader somewhere on the bottom, would that work?
Yep! The PC Invader was a budget stick (even for Logic3). It has three buttons, two axes and a hat which means it's suited to Mode 2 on the Rockfire. The Logic3 Phantom and Tornado definitely work with the Rockfire adapter so the PC Invader will pose no threat.
ok, thanks
The Blackhawk Digital doesn't work? Is there anyway to get it to work on a modern computer?
Not that I can see. Unfortunately, that stick falls into a _really_ specific overlap. And the very specific technology it was using is too new for an analogue adapter and too old for a USB passthrough. I've seen people trying to make their own adapters, but it's something which will only work at its best paired with legacy hardware.
How about SUNCOM F-15E FCS?
What if u buy the 4 pound one will that still work ?
By "the four pound one" do you mean a passive Gameport to USB adapter? If it is just a wire with different plugs on the end, the answer is almost certainly no. The Rockfire (and others) has circuitry inside it which converts that analogue signal into data the OS can understand. A passive adapter just passed those signals through without converting them.
sadly is only supports 4 axis so only useful for simple joysticks. This is no good for HOTAS setups
Did I not mention that in the video? If so, then I apologise. Correct, this is for joysticks only. There are reports of users buying TWO of these adapters and using them with HOTAS setups but YMMV.
It's a pet hate of mine for sure. So many great HOTAS setups out there still on gameports that can't be used. I'm experimenting with some solutions and will put them on my channel if I come up with some fixes that don't need a degree in electronics
Hi there, Mi name is Adriano van Brakel and lives in the Netherlands, I was watching your video and now I have a question about the Gravis Blackhawk Digital,I have also a gameport converter from LogiLink also with 4 modes. % years ago I also tried all kinds of thinks to get it going, but unfertunately the same as with You, now way hoozee . Do You have or know a alternative for this joystick. Best regards, Adriano.v.b
It's the "Digital" that's letting you down, Adriano. The standard Blackhawk is sending an analogue signal over Gameport, which is what the converter is looking for. The Digital version is sending a digital signal, which the converter does not recognise. Get a standard Blackhawk and you're golden. My recommendation for a joystick though is the excellent Saitek Cyborg.
I got one of these Rockfire adapters, but, it didn't work with my Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feed Back Pro. May be it needs an special driver because of the FFB functions. I saw the comment about the Precision Pro driver. I will give it a shot, but, could you point me any other ideas on how to get it work. Thank you for the video. Cheers from Brazil!
Did this work?
One question: It works with a 6 buttons controller?
Works in New Flight Simulator 2020?
What can be done if your old joytisck is a USB cable, is there are a converter which can make it playable on current gen console?
The issue is that your old joystick will be sending analogue data over USB, and modern Windows doesn't recognise analogue over USB any more. I'm not aware of an analogue to digital USB adapter. You might find one though!
@@MattyStoked Well thanks for the info! It's a shame that perfectly good controllers (even if 15-20 years old) can't be used anymore with an easy work around. I've love to source a converter for this kind of thing rather than re-buy peripherals.
I have a really old Quickshot, Skyhawk QS-209E, has never been used. Says it works on Windows 95, that's how old it is. What are the chances of it being converted to run on Windows 10.
We had the Quickshot Skyhawk with my parents first Windows PC. Great joystick. It's a two axis, two button stick if I remember, I see no problems with the Quickshot running with the Rockfire adapter.
Firstly, sadly for some reason I don’t seem to be able to reply to existing threads so apologies for a new comment thread...
For those of you using the Saitek Cyborg 3D joystick, does the force feedback element also continue to work with this adapter, or is it just the movement and buttons that work?
Also, have you found it works fine on:* Windows 10 32 bit* Windows 10 64 bit
Thanks
From memory I don't think the FFB comes through on the USB. This is due to the analogue way that FFB signals were sent over Gameport.
hi there - my controller works, I have just calibrated it with windows - but STEAM does not show it, steams says NO CONTROLLER FOUND. What the heck can we do about this?
Steam possibly only looks for Xinput controllers, and this would almost certainly be registering as Dinput. Depending on the game, it might recognise it without Steam having to agree. I'm playing my old DOS games via Steam in this video :)
As much as I like my old joystick, with the price the USB Nest is going for, I might as well buy a new joystick.
Useful to know that you can still get the old ones working though.
That's a shame, this used to be significantly cheaper than a new joystick!