Let's develop an ultimate GamePort USB adapter. Project updates and a little surprise!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- In this video I would like to give yous some update on the Arduino based GamePort USB adapter project. Especially the software got a lot of improvements and the adapter supports now a lot more devices like Microsoft Sidewinder, Gravis Gamepads, Logitech Wingman, Cyberman 2 and many others.
Celebrating 20K of subscribers you will get the opportunity to win one of the two GamePort adapters completely assembled with a Micro-USB Arduino programmed with the latest firmware. The raffle includes shipping costs up to 10€ per device. It is only possible to win one adapter per person. The draw will end on 29.01.2022 at 23:59 CET. The winners will be announced on this channel in the next days after the end of the draw.
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For those wondering, 5ms input lag (worst case) would be a single frame at 200fps. So for all intents and purposes it's imperceptible.
I'm really grateful for all your effort and time to make such projects, and giving them for free to community.
In the other video you were using a Sidewinder 3D Pro joystick (my favorite) with the dip switches set to 1110. The Sidewinder 3D Pro was my first and only joystick. A friend originally purchased it for me back in the 90's in a kit coupled with Mechwarrior II. He wanted someone to play with head to head in those old fashioned modem games. I still love that combo and recent picked up a couple of them on ebay. :-)
As usual, the videos were great. I think that its really awesome that you put all this work into all this retro goodness and I LOVE that you share with all of us. Your videos give me a chance to to take a step back and relive the "glory years".. For me anyway... As I am sure it is for many of your fans. THANK YOU for doing these videos. And Thank you for open sourcing your AWESOME projects.
Hello!!! The Joystick used in the previous video is a Sidewinder 3D pro and the dip switch configuration for this is 1110.
Great job dude!
The joystick you used was a Sidewinder 3D Pro and the dip switches were set to 1110. Great video as usual
This is really cool, Necroware.
Never had a joystick as a kid so I'm probably not going to get one one now. But I find this kind of stuff very interesting. Thank you!
Best Channel Ever!
Sidewinder 3D Pro with setting 1110
Also: all hail the algorithm for promoting your channel last year. It's a breath of fresh air among all the popular retro channels ran by people who can barely solder but get donated really expensive hardware. Looking at you, Adrian! (It's a joke, I like the guy, and he's not even a full time youtuber :)). OK, one to mention is the 8-bit guy, who regularly destroys rare hardware and gets people to work for him for free (apparently finally the Commander X16 team figured out they're just doing speculative work for a big business, took them a while!)
Hey, you should totally "collab" with CPU Galaxy on the VRM project, that's what youtubers do, right?! :)
I have respect for the 8-bit guy, only because he was doing it a long time ago and arguably popularised this type of content. But he has become the retro-RUclipsr for people with short attention spans.
I have a lot of respect for Adrian, Clint, David and all the others, who are making this for so many years. Most of the people, which never made such content, simply don't know how exhausting this is. Believe me, it is incredibly hard, I need about 3-4 hours of work for 1 minute of video. Not even talking about development time needed for the DIY projects. For example it took about 150 hours only to develop this gameport adapter. No wonder, that the guys are very tired of doing this for so long.
@@necro_ware We all agree those people work hard, but David is an abuser. Not just hardware abuser (destroyer in fact), but people abuser as well. He made some very good content (the Texas series was something no one else would do), but it can't be used to defend his character.
Everyone else in the space is cool, as far as I can tell, even if they're really bad with computers ;)
But still, for viewers looking for more technical content, your kind of channel is amazing. I would classify you somewhere between Bens: Ben Eater (super educational, absolutely unpractical but who cares with the amount of knowledge my sponge brain can absorb, however: rare uploads) and Ben Heck (frequent uploads, top DIY skill, but you can't learn much from his chaotic videos filled with random movie references and off-key singing ;)).
So far you're among just a handful of creators providing the perfect balance for me! :)
@@--Lam I always prefer to think about and remember the great things people have made. I don't know David personally, you seem to know something about him, what I don't, so you probably have your reasons. But fortunately I had no issues with him and I try to think about a lot of great videos and especially about the games he made. That was hell lot of work, I'm sure. I have to admit, that his recent content is probably less exciting for my taste indeed, but I think everybody needs some time to recover. It's impossible to always go in such a pace. Currently most of the older retro channels except Adrian's seem to be slightly exhausted, but I'm sure, that will change again. Anyway, I'm glad you like my channel, but I assure you I also will get tired one day and will need time to get back. We are all human....
@@necro_ware Yes, I even mentioned he made stuff no one else would, really contributing to humanity's knowledge, preserving history of the semiconductor big bang, which we are all children of! If you don't know his history of bad stuff, that's even better! Who needs drama, keep up the good work while you still have the motivation, we're all grateful :)
Delighted your channel is growing so fast.. I'm one those new subscribers over the last 3 months, and really enjoy your videos ( as electronic eng especially the repairs)..
Man you made my day, not only does your adapter now support my joystick of choice (Logitech Wingman Extreme digital), it does well with one of my favorite games from back in the time. I also have one waiting for this adapter in my basement.
But to get to the quiz, in your previous video you used a Sidewinder 3D pro, the joystick of my best friend, and I’m a real sucker for WingCommander too. The setting is 1110. really hoping to be one of the lucky winners 😊
And as a longtime subscriber I’m superhappy to see how your channel grows. Maybe the shout-out from Adrian helped to get more attention to your awesome content, it is however well deserved.
Viele Grüße und alles gute für die Zukunft deines Kanals, ich freue mich über jedes neue Video.
Thank you necroware! Road to 20k!!!! I subscribed to this beautiful channel at 4k!
You were using a Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro Joystick to play Wing Commander Prophecy, the dip-switches need to be set to 1110. Thanks for all of your work and for the amazing content!
Hey! First: Keep up the GENIUS WORK you do for us! :) The Joystick you used was a Sidewinder 3D Pro, so you have to set the switches to 1110. I have one of those Sticks here. :)
Personally I enjoy all your videos because it's you that makes them interesting. Although I will admit I do gravitate towards the battery damage "back from the dead" videos for sure.
You used a Sidewinder 3D Pro Joystick setup to CH Flightstick-Emulation mode 0-0-1-0 first. Then you switched to Sidewinder mode 1-1-1-0, with now 6 axis and 8 buttons and with the head switch now usable in all 8 directions. Great video, again! Love your channel, man! 👍👍😊😊
Thank you! Please edit your comment once again ;) And don't forget to write the switches exactly (!) how they are in the table, since I will filter all the comments for exact match later. If s.o. writes it in another format, it will definitely get lost...
@@necro_ware Ok 😜 you used a Sidewinder 3D Pro with the switches set to 1110.
Cool project, can' t wait to try this on my Microsoft Sidewinder Dual-Strike or Gravis PC GamePad. You were playing with the Sidewinder 3D Pro 1110.
I found you in the past few weeks and have been binge watching. Thank you for the awesome content!
Yaaay! The most elegant joystick project is back! Thank you so much for being so generous with your time and for sharing and producing such cool content. I'm excited to try the new design. Cheers, mate!
Great project, geat video. You used Sidewinder 3D Pro and switches set to 1110
Really enjoy your videos! Thanks for the great work
Love this channel. Fixed few of my motherboards because of the authors hard-work. Please keep this channel alive.It is rarity nowadays. Also to enter the draw, here is the info required: Sidewinder 3D pro 1110
That is a very cool project. I've had some similar project ideas in mind, and I'm really glad that someone is working on this!
Love your videos and the effort you exert for the vintage computer community. Many thanks for your time and said effort, helping some us become better stewards of our vintage hardware!
Great project! Congratulations.
The joystick is the Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro and the configuration 1110.
Love your content. Thanks for your hard work and interesting content. It's fun and engaging to watch!
I love ALL the content you do.
Because all of it is interesting. So, pump out whatever you feel like!
That's the way I see RUclips to be and also is the way forward, doing what you enjoy and not what draws the clicks.
Thanks so much for spearheading this kind of adapter with expanding compatibility. I have a big tub full of GamePort controllers but limited original hardware rigs to use them on that a way to use them through DosBox is most helpful. :)
I just subscribed, Been binge watching for the last couple of days. I saw a comment on Adrian's channel and clicked your name to find your channel. I especially enjoy the hardware repair videos. Thanks for what you do.
Thank you for all the work and the Videos. I always look forward to your videos
Thank you for the great tips about the logic analyzer
great video, thank you.. and I like the variety
Thank You for the project!
Love your videos man they have lots of knowledge
Thank you for all your great work and videos. In the referenced video you played WingCommander with the Sidewinder 3D Pro with DIP switch settings 1110.
Sidewinder 3D Pro 1110, I wish I had kept my sidewinder gamepad. I used it to play sw ep1 racer and phantom menace. I'll be watching this project to see if force feedback support is added. Neat project!
This was the exact video I was looking for. Been trying to find a way to connect my cyberman 2 and thurstmaster fragmaster controllers to modern hardware for a while now, thank you so much for providing and producing the resources for everyone!
I have a cyberman 2 also and i dream for many years to inteface it to 3d program and videoeditor software as other more expensive hardware from cyberman2 tecnology are derived. You think is possibile whit this di project?
I'm so glad I stumbled on your videos (or, I suppose, that the algorithm showed them to me). You do a great job explaining both the what and the why for what you're doing, whether repairing an old component or desiging something new. I also really appreciate that you make your designs and software open source. I like both the repair/restoration videos and the DIY videos so I hope you keep making both kinds of content.
I'll enter the contest by saying it was a Sidewinder 3D Pro which would need the switches set to 1110. Even if I don't win, I'll probably order some PCBs and make my own!
Same here I hate some of youtubes policies but the algorithm brought me so iI thank youtube for that. FOr the rest i can only say Let's go brandon!
Oh my god, I have the 3D Pro Plus (if I didn't get rid of it!) and I've been following this project wondering in the back of my mind if I should try it out with that joystick. If I can find that joystick, I am 100% building this.
Thank you for your time & efforts.
Ohh so I can keep some hope about a future adapter that include both Joystick and Keyboard for these weird cases :P
Thanks for this project!
Thank you very much for your work!
Congrats for the exactly 20k subscribers, as I'm writing this... I just started my channel, and your repair videos were an inspiration! ;)
I'd also take part in the contest! The joystick you ask for is a Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro, and as per your sheet it must be configured with 1110.
Great stuff, as usual.
When you were playing Wing Commander Prophecy you used the Sidewinder 3D Pro Joystick which is:
Sidewinder 3D Pro mode --> 1110 on dipswitches
Extra just for fun:
Before you changed it to Sidewinder 3d Pro mode, you tested CH emulation mode on it:
Sidewinder 3d Pro => switch to CH emulation mode
Gameport adaptor => switch to CH Flightstick 0010 on dip switches
All axis to center, also the throttle slider
It is so great to see all the work on gameport adaptor, it is one of a kind. TY!
Nice video, Glad to see open project like this one. Sidewinder 3D Pro and the dip switches were set to 1110
excellent can use my old sidewinder gamepads now.
Hey, great content! Keep up the good work! As for the draw, the joystick is the SideWinder 3D pro with 1110 as setting.
As always, great vid and content! Sidewinder 3D Pro : 1110 setting
Hey, really loves your approach and see all videos you make ;) You used Sidewinder 3D Pro switches set 1110 ;) would love such device, i alrdy bought the iso proto board you opensourced, and i love it. thanks a lot for your videos.
If you use a Titan 1 device and a PC. You can use all those controllers on modern game consoles like PS5 and Xbox series S. The trick to do this is to leave the Titan 1 inside any game console of your choice. And leave the program cord that comes with the Titan 1 inside the PC. The program for the Titan 1 you need to leave open at all times is called "max Aim Di". "Max Aim DI" detects any gamepad circuit board and translate the button inputs to any game console you want it to translate to. PS3, PS4, PS5, Xbox 360, Xbox one, Xbox series S, Nintendo switch. As long as you leave your PC running with Max Aim DI open rigged with a Titan 1. Any joystick you have inside your PC will work on modern game consoles.
The problem is, that you can't connect those old gameport devices to a half modern computer, since it wouldn't have a gameport since about 20 years. This is where my adapter comes into play, it converts gameport to usb
I never had one of these joysticks you mention, but guessing from the picture it is a Sidewinder 3D Pro with the switches set to 1110
Good job!
You’re amazing! I have a MS FFB Wheel since day one, carefully maintained but in its box for decades. I’ll try to contribute and help!!!
Man please contribute xD , I know nothing about electronics and I have the wheel collecting dust since 2003, I am willing to pay to get this adapter made with the FFB feature.
Nice project updates!
I have only USB joysticks left.. Even, purchased and disassembled new one to use as parts in my project.. 😂
Neat project. It was the Sidewinder 3D Pro, setting 1110. Had one back in the day, nice joystick 🙂
:D Sidewinder; 1110- Einstellung. Ich könnte das Tool UNGLAUBLICH gut gebrauchen! :) Tolles Vid! Kudos maximales, Amigo!
Thank you for the pin header tip, it is a really good idea. I can second your feelings about opening a boutique electronics shop in Germany. It could be fun, but taxes and regulations are just too involved and either make things too expensive or offset a lot of the fun with the chores of bureaucracy.
Unfortunately, I threw my old joysticks away as there was no simple way to use them anymore. Also, there are good Logitech USB Joysticks that aren't supported from Win7 on. I wonder if there is a solution for them as well? Thanks so much for your contributions to this scene- your channel is definitely a pure gem on RUclips and you deserve to be huge. The Joystick you used was a MS Sidewinder 3D Pro with the setting 1110 .
Amazing, just can't wait to try the adapter ^&^ and the ultra weapon is SideWinder 3D Pro with 1110 SW setting in WCP video.
Hey, very nice project. I like it a lot. The joystick was Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro with DIP switch setting 1110
Whoo Hoo update! I haven't looked for new code.
I have a functional (barely) 3d printed box for the original micro version.
I still have hope of figuring out how to add the AT keyboard and program my WCS
Hi , I really enjoy all of your videos! I also love Star Wars Racer.. although I haven't been able to get it to work properly on my modern Windows 10 x64 PC 😒.
In the last video you used a Microsoft Sidewinder 3d Pro Joystick and that needs the DIP switches set to 1110
I used to have a Gravis Phoenix . . that was such a fun joystick
magnifico trabajo . exelente canal , muy interesante. el joystick que usabas era el Sidwinder 3D Pro.
Gracias! Recuerda que necesito el codigo ;)
This is something I am really interested for my Force Feedback Pro stick (Mechwarrior 3) unfortunatly I have zero experience with arduio and getting pcb's done. If anyone can help me out I would be very grateful and I would definitly pay for someone to build this for me. Many thanks Necroware! You are breathing life into my old Mechwarrior veins!
hi, thank you for your open source diy projects und this nice interessting video. In the last video you played WC with an Microsoft Sidewinder 3d Pro. The DIP switch for this Joystick has set to 1110
It is a Sidewinder 3D Pro with the switches set to 1110. Nice video as usual. :)
I don't need one so won't lower chances for others by posting the answer, but I guess you need engagement, so please accept this comment as an appreciation of your work ;)
Hi: I'm working on a CH F-16 Fighter Stick Joystick and rudder pedals. that I am currently running on X-plane using a rockfire adapter. It works okay but doesn't properly recognize all the buttons. I love your implementation and support of this project. I'll definitely be pursuing it. I really appreciate your passion for breathing new life into older equipment. Please keep up the great work you do!
Wonderful video as always, the joystick was a SideWinder 3D Pro, with dip switch settings 1110 (on,on,on,off)
Good entertaining video again. I really want to buy such an adapter. Just to play wing commander again with my Logitech wingman extreme.
Thank you! I was able to make one myself and it seems to work great! I tried the Star Wars racer game and it was really awesome! I've never played that before. I still have the sidewinder 3D pro from the mechwarrior 2 bundle. I just installed it and tried to use the sidewinder but the hat switch doesn't work and the throttle doesn't go completely to zero in the game. I'm sure it's a software thing since everything else works in other games like Xplane.
I've had a Microsoft Sidewinder for over a decade that I've never been able to use due to it's gameport. I can finally use it on modern hardware!
Sidewinder 3D Pro recognized it even through the pixels.. 1110 haha would love one of these. not only foe the sidewinder wheel i have at my parents but even the sidewinder gamepad. they were revolutionary as a kid i think od came with motorcross madness and wheelies could be done with 6 axis motion control and that same feature only came out on playstation like 20 years later..unreal that tjis brings them back to life. am in berlin if youre near by
lg jacob
Myself I'm waiting with baited breath for the "opposite" of this adapter - adapting a modern off-the-shelf USB Xbox controller to the old 15-pin gameport so I could use a new high-quality handheld controller with a classic DOS-based retro PC. I was REALLY EXCITED when I mentioned this idea before and you replied "it's in the works." When you explained the simplicity of the 15-pin gameport pinout, I thought to myself this should be really easy to do with a Raspberry Pi for example, if the Pi interfaces with the controller and then generates the required output signals for the gameport using some GPIO pins! I'm unfamiliar with how to program this myself but I'd be happy to invest some money in the project if I can attract a partner who thinks they can help with the software that needs to run on the Pi!
I’d suggest doing a simple padhack job but the potentiometers are likely 10K and I believe gameport uses 5K.
@@emmettturner9452 I thought about that first but there are some big advantages to a converter-box-style approach - the ability to re-map controls on-the-fly for different games, and of course you could connect any unmodified off-the-shelf xbox controller! They do wear out over time after all, and my idea allows the user to just grab a fresh one and play. When Necro explained how simply that 15-pin connector operates, I immediately thought "Wow, this would be really easy if I'd written code for a Pi before!"
I started that project using a Pi Zero and the plans are not limited for joysticks if you know what I mean, but unfortunately the day has only 24 hours and I need more time with all the projects, the channel and all the other minor stuff which we have to do in life :D
@@necro_ware Awesome; And if there's anything I can do to help...
Great update! I love this thing. Entry: Sidewinder 3D Pro, 1110.
Very interesting
Thank you
Thanks for the updates. I'm just waiting for the Arduino to arrive to finish mine off. Between this and the MCE Adapter, You've certainly kept my soldering iron running hot.
BTW, what logic analyser are you running? I'm on the hunt for a cost effective solution.
The cheapest one for 8€
Very nice project. I have a nearly mint Genius Maxfire G-09d, a quirky gamepad with a mini wheel integrated in the d-pad, which I'd love to see supported in this project. Unfortunately I don't have the resources to implement the support myself, so let's hope someone adds it someday ;-)
Very cool!
Sidewinder 3D Pro using 1110 config, as seen in your presentation video at 28:03 .
Suggestion: support for two 2 button 2 axys gamepads (and a MIDI device, if possible) connected to one gameport.
You is the best!
The joystick used was the Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro. Dip switches were set to 1110. My Sidewinder has been sitting around doing nothing for a while. Would be nice to use it again!
Hi,
The joystick you used was the Gravis Analog Pro and the switch configuration is 0100 for Generic Analog 4 Buttons and 3 Axes (3rd Axis is throttle).
Thanks,
José Caetano Silva
By the shape and colors, it seems like it's a Precision Pro which is 1110 on the switches. I actually own one Precision Pro, but it does have its own USB adapter.
My greatest joystick though was the Sidewinder FFB Pro due to the force feedback effects it gave, I remember cycling through the demo effects available on the control panel.
Great work on the adapter though, I hope some day the force feedback will be implemented on the wheel and the FFB Pro
Very intersting channel. You really have some nice ideas on how to tweak old hardware. btw. it was Sidewinder 3D Pro 1110
Lets watch you demonstrate this adaptor, playing your favorite racing game......Its Working! ITS WORKING!
ruclips.net/video/YAlKVwHa-tI/видео.html
You've got a Cyberman 2? So jealous... an interesting project 👍
I didn't. I just implemented the support for the Logitech ADI protocol and one user, who has the Cyberman 2 tested the implementation for me.
@@necro_ware oh I see. Still sooo jealous lol. The Cyberman and Cyberman 2 are on my classic game controller must have list
cheers!
Love your videos, I really like your hardware modifications of old hardware.
I was curious if you may eventually design a 5v 486 CPU to 3V adapter like you used to be able to get to enable a 3v 486 CPU, such as a DX4100, to run on a 5v only board. As i have an old dell system that uses 5v only.
As for your quiz on what joystick you used in your prior video was a Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro with the dip switches set to 1110.
Thank you! To design the adapter is not a big deal, the problem is to find the sockets....
I ordered my pcb last and components for this projects week to maybe help with force feedback (but i have to admit i dont really know how to programm software), also maybe a fully integrated version to order everything surface mounted directly from the pcb manufacturer would be nice
Sidwinder 3D Pro 1110.
Great channel and wonderful project for all the retro-community!
Hi there, thanks a lot for your work !! I'm trying to do it by myself but I encounter some trouble to order the PCB. Would you mind sharing the one you ordered it from and the options you used for the order. Looking forward to reading you
I found out how to do it, actually it was quite simple.
I ordered the PCB from China, got it quite rapidly, assembled it and tatam !!! My sidewinder FFB Pro is working again on windows 10.. Thanks a lot for all your work.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO, PLEASE MORE MOTHERBOARD REPAIR
Thank you too. As I said in the video I have to switch the topics every now and then, otherwise I will not have fun making this channel anymore and it will die eventually.
I wouldn't mind making some for the us market. Depends on demand, but we built a bunch of pistorms too.
If you want feel free to build some.
Now you referred to a racing wheel I'm very curious on how easy could be to support old functional USB racing wheels on modern OS.
I have a thrustmaster force feedback racing wheel but drivers don't work anymore on modern windows.
it was a Sidewinder 3D Pro and the dip switches were set to 1110. great job on the design, is there a way to submit stl files for an enclosure? I'm sure the community would love to show off their cad skills and help
Is there a part number for the USB c board. The one on your build list is for the Micro board. Thanks
How about the other way round? Is there an interface which lets you connect a modern USB controller, a steering wheel for instance, to a retro PC running Win 95/98? Something that would act as a hardware vJoy equivalent that on one side would be seen as a computer by the controller and on the other side as a universal game port device by the retro PC?
Looks like a great project to bring a couple of Flightstick Pro's back to life.
Is there anyone selling it as a kit or at least supplying the PCB?