I usually leave the partition ready before. Then I copy the win98 folder (from de Win98 instalation cd) to the c drive, install from there, the advantage is that when Windows needs files from the cd, it copies them without asking to insert the cd.
There’s always the option to change the registry key (“HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \CurrentVersion \ Setup \ source path”, set to C:\Win98”) so the system doesn’t ask for the windows 98 CD (That’s only necessary if you did install from the CD initially) and you’ll need to copy the files from the win98 folder inside the CD to C:\Win98
@@mc42d0 Good to know that you could do that afterward. Another reason I used to copy the installation directory was that the installation process felt quicker.
Love fast 'modern' Win98 setups. Last one I did recently with an ECS 662/1066T-M2, SiS chipset, C2D 8500, ViBRA128 and 6600GT DDR3 gave 27711 in 3dMark2001
Copy the 98 files in folder on the hd. Whenever 98 needs drivers from cd you can point to that directory... saves a lot of discjuggling and you can reinstall from there too
For my 98se builds, I also use the unofficial service pack, since it includes so many bits that help make it well, almost usable as an environment to even get other non-gaming stuff done. Though for a real metal install, I stop at version 3.65; the updates to 3.66 seem more geared to a VM install, and seems to break on a real environment, which is disappointing. :( DirectX 9.0(c?) was pretty much a must, to get a geforce 6800 or a Radeon x850 to work on 98se; the performance with those cards is bonkers. Then again, one of my big motivators to do such builds is to load up a game, look at the audio/video settings and just go "yes, I want that on."
Great video. I use a 500GB/250GB sata hard drive + adapter. Use live cd of linux (mint or zorin) to format the hard drive (120GB+120GB, rest unformated because lazyness), copy the cd of win98 and drivers to the first partition (C), games and programs to the second partition. Finally install hard drive to the pc and start with the win98 diskette. Been working good so far.
While the primary partition might be limited to 8gb, Win98se can see other partitions that are fat32 formated and can comfortably see partitions of 30 or 40 gb in size.
@@n646n Yes. Problem is just in original Fdisk. If you want to format whole partition, you can set fdisk to 100% and it will format any disk size to maximum, ofc less than 120GB. Or you can download updated Fdisk, that displays size correctly to 120GB limit.
Thanks Phil, I just picked up an MSI PM8M-V Socket 478 VIA P4M800 motherboard with a 3ghz P4 and 2x512 sticks of ram for $36.50 off ebay in the US. I couldn't pass it up. board was spotless and works great..P4 boards on ebay are way overpriced.. My system that I built about a year ago is running Me with a ssd. Thanks to all your videos and drivers
As i remember it, directx v8.1 worked very well with 98se, and was plenty backwards compatible. Installing directx 9 would break support for dx6 games and older. The best combo i remember was, 98se with directx 8.1 and geforce 4 ti 4400 or 4600 with driver version 44.03 for good backwards compatibility and very good performance. Going from 44.03 to the 45.xx version would take about 30% of my 3dmark scores. I have made my own bootdisk floppy and a my own install cd with windows 98se. Stolen the idea from microsoft win98 boot disk with ramdrive. So i can load up a full dos 6.22 from a arj file in a 12mb ram drive with norton commander, partiton magic and ghost. The cd is bootable too, but older bios can't boot directly from cd. i have made this in a dos6.22 and a dos 7.10 versions. So i can partition the drive and copy over the files i need to a 3rd or 4th drive/partition. and install from there. So i won't have to deal with the windows 98 cd every time a driver has to be installed. Then make a ghost image of the windows partition and save that as a file on the 3rd/4th drive/partition aswell.
@@KaziQTR i can't remember which games specifically, only that i had issues with dx6 and older when dx9 was installed. at that time i found some forum that mentioned some of the api calls had been overwritten. So if the old game used some dx6 api handle, but you have dx9 installed the game would break because it was not the instructions performed that the game programing was expecting.
DirectX 9 for me is needed for the Xbox 360 controller, never had it break older games for me. What it does break is dxdiag, but that one i can do without.
I remember being at the Acer test lab (they shipped our multimedia software on their consumer machines), and they were talking about the "bootable CDs" that would be coming into the lab in a couple weeks. Seemed such an advanced feature back then, these days I couldn't imagine a system *without* the capability.
You can also boot from floppy Or windows 2000 / nt / 2003 Then shift to windows 98 Specific folder where setup exe available. As typing setup.exe Setup start
Your first line of your sentence clashes with your second line sentence. Not accusing you of not helping but it sure looks like bs from a new user standpoint. I’m sure I’ll see more of this false hope around videos on topic
My Windows 98 is a little different. Has the unofficial SP3 + other patches that enables 2+GB RAM, 32 bit driver fix for 130ish GB HDD fix and such. Thanks for the files you host on your website. They are very useful. My retro computer is still work in progress.
Nice guide, I normally use a boot cd with partition magic, partition/format my HDD, do a sys command so the HDD become bootable and copy all the files I would need connecting the HDD to a modern computer. I try to avoid copying files from floppies and CDs, but sometimes it is just plain easier to install using the Win98 OEM disc like you did here.
I first tried to install Windows 98 on my retro PC using the optical drive, but since I'm using an SD to IDE adapter and only had one IDE cable I had issues with the master / slave configuration and couldn't get it to work properly. I tried to install using USB with easy2boot but had issues because of the motherboard I was using (ECS K7S5A, Athlon XP platform) not properly supporting USB boot. Since I use an SD to IDE adapter for my machine, my solution was to mount the SD card on my modern PC and use VMWare to do the first part of the Windows install. Before the first reboot took place, I shut down the VM and put the SD card into the retro machine with the contents of the Windows 98 SE CD copied to the root of the SD card as well. This allowed me to continue setup as normal. I then installed the USB mass storage drivers and it was off to the races. Now that I have everything set up and configured exactly how I like it, I have a full image backup of the SD card stored on my server and could just restore that image to the SD card if necessary. I've since gotten a separate IDE cable for the optical drive as well, so that's an option now. If you run into any of the issues that I did though, the VMWare route actually works really well to give you a baseline bootable hard disk ready to configure the OS.
Thanks for the guide. The USB and Audigy drivers are very useful. Shame on Intel for pulling the drivers. (P4 2.8Ghz intel D865gbf 1Gb DDR 400 Patriot, IDE HDD, Floppy 3.5, SB Live Value)
Thanks for the Video Phil I like to make a seperate Partition and put all the Drivers and Programs I need there to get the OS up and Running. I copy the Windows files there and Install from there also.
I still like creating an initial install on a drive and then image it with Macrium Reflect. Super easy to just restore the image to a drive and then just tackle drivers for the specific system thereafter. 👍
I have all the drivers on a spare 160gb drive, & just copy them over as required. NUSB install files are on a cd, so I can do those after windows is installed. Sometimes I even put the source files onto the hard drive & install directly from there if I'm having issues with optical drive detection.
To install Windows 98 SE, I format a drive on another computer as FAT32, copy the contents of the install CD to a folder on the hard drive called WIN98CD, and run the setup from there. That way, when installing other things it will never ask for the CD again, and will just streamline things much faster and easier. Hope this helps!
There are a few drivers I'd swap out. The chipset driver I use my own modified VIA driver which is the 5.14 driver modified to work on older via motherboards as well. Should run on pretty much all of them and avoids things like the installation problems on the T5710. I'd also swap out the USB 2.0 driver and NUSB driver with U98SEUSB which includes both along other ones such as the Xbox 360 Controller driver.
@@kunka592 Has to be a wired one but with that modified driver thats inside U98SEUSB and DirectX 9 it can totally be done! A PS4 controller however just works out of the box on Windows 98, which is even more wild.
1. If your retro gaming PC has an ethernet adapter (especially Realtek RTL8139) and capable of PXE Boot, you can configure a prebuilt DOS boot disk (which can be significantly larger than a standard floppy disk) with LAN drivers and use your PXE server to sideload it to your retro gaming PC. The PXE server can be established easily with TFTPD64 or TFTPD32. I have an 11.52MB prebuilt image that contains most of ethernet adapter drivers. It's pretty useful especially on laptops without CD-ROM drive or floppy drive. 2. Some commercial programs like Symantec Ghost supports transferring prebuilt partition image to your PC with GhostCast, so you can simply transfer your prebuilt Windows image and apply to your PC. 3. Copying Windows 9x setup files to your HDD before installation is always recommended to speed up procedure or driver installation. 4. Once you have Windows and ethernet driver installed, you can transfer files with SMB or HTTP File Server from your another PC. 5. For Windows 98/Me/2000 I personally prefer DirectX 8.1b for wider game support. 6. If you can pull the internal HDD/SSD and connect to your modern PC, some virtual machine apps also support mounting physical HDD/SSD for virtual machine usage, which can provide generally faster installation speed.
You forgot the biggest tip for installing Windows 98. When you first go to install it and boot from 98 CD or floppy disk and have fdisk and formatted the hard drive in DOS change to your C: then "mkdir win98" and then change directory to the win98 folder on the Windows 98 CDROM. Then copy everything from d:\win98 to c:\win98 and go back to the C:\win98 folder and run setup.exe from there with "setup /is" which skips scandisk and starts the setup. This stops Windows 98 from asking you to insert the 98 CD every time you install drivers or make a change to Windows.
If you're going to do this more then once invest in some swappable drive bays or ide to usb convertors. They will make your life so much easier. First connect the drive to your retro machine, boot from a floppy, create and format a partition, then make it bootable using the sys command or "format c: /s" or "sys c:" Then connect the drive to modern pc, add an install folder on the drive and copy all your operating system installers, drivers and other tools to it. Optionally make a disk image of this drive. Then move the drive back to the retro machine, boot from it and then run the OS installer you want.
I've been trying to set up something similar with my ThinkPad T23, but with an IDE-to-SD adapter. Problem I've encountered is getting the card plugged into the drive bay; the HDD slots in the side of the laptop, but getting the pins to plug into the connector has proven impossible (the adapter doesn't have the usual screw mounts, so you'd have to dummy up something like a fake HDD to hold it). I'll probably have to open up the chassis to install the adapter. I do have a few old PATA laptop drives, but I'm concerned about the wear on the connector, and expect repeatedly swapping drives will eventually break it. I wanted to put together some demonstrations of the multimedia software from the company I used to work for (Future Vision Multimedia), and would want to readily re-image the OS. Maybe I'll figure out a triple-boot with Win98, Win2000, and some minimal Linux partition (using the Linux partition to do the re-imaging).
@@SenileOtaku I the old days I used to put 3.5" drive in a caddy that fit into a 5.25 frame. I used to have multiple caddies and a frame in each computer. The caddies and frame used a large Centronics connector which seemed to handle repeated use quite well.
G'day Phil, Thanks so much because this type of video with links for Unsupported OS Installation is very helpful, Would it be possible to get a XP Install, Activation & Update video too? For older Motherboards Gigabyte is my first choice too as getting the relative Drivers from their site is so much easier than the other partners, that ASRock to ASUS trick is a good one.
Simple and sweet, Win 98 OEM ISO is the best thing since sliced bread. Have you tried using a DVD instead of the CD, are there any differences? Thanks!
I resurrect old PCs for Windows 98SE. Most are given to me by friends and haven’t been used in years. I’ve installed voodoo cards, cache memory, new RAM sticks, etc. I noticed this: Some components like cache memory and VooDoo cards that haven’t been used in 20 years take a while to “wake up”. Not kidding. I had a voodoo2 in SLI that would not work until it was installed and running for several hours. It woke up and has worked reliably since. Same with a cache CELP stick that I recently installed. It caused errors in PCMark and 3DMark99 for a day, then became stable. What is this phenomenon? Anybody else experience this? UPDATE: The cache stick I used has gold contacts and I got errors with Prime95. I’m fairly certain my Packard Bell motherboard only accepts tin/silver cache memory. I ordered a different stick - we’ll see if it’s compatible. And…yeah, my voodoo2 card did actually need to be powered on a while before it came to life.
I'm using a thirdparty repacked version of 98SE with security patches and mobo drivers up to ICH5 era. Before the installation, I put Ethernet drivers to the D: partition and I install them after the OS is ready. Then I log in to my NAS using FTP and pull other things I need to the local hard drive.
I remember that in past (when I did not know how to use BIOS, or there was no proper boot options in it, or even how to set boot order with jumpers 😁 ) I was simply disconnecting IDE cable from hard disk to start booting from Windows 98 instalation disk 🙂 I thought that there should be a better way to do it but it was working on my PC this time (Pentium 120, probably from 1995-96, I was using it to 2004 with short break for Celeron 667 around 2002) 😎 I was younger than 10-11 years old when I was doing it this way, with next PC from 2005 I knew more about setting the boot order in BIOS 🙂 Now i'd do it differently on some Retro PC, if I had to do it my old way now I would do it only with the precision of a sapper 😁
I now copy 9x to the install drive, install and run FreeDOS, skip FreeDOS setup (F5 IIRC), locate 9x's install folder, type setup /nm /is, wait and done.
not sure if you know about this, but the reason win95/98/DOS formatting takes so long is because it does a checksum on every sector it formats. You can speed it up a whole bunch by using the /q flag which skips this (and it isnt really needed anyway, especially on modern storage devices, including hard drives)
@@philscomputerlab I would have swore it does because I don't remember ever doing a normal format and each time I hear you say how long it is to format a large partition I always think "why doesn't he just use /q"... but I wouldn't dare to argue with you ahah Maybe it worked for me (and that G L?) because I've always used Partition Magic or Windows XP's disk manager to create the FAT/FAT32 partitions and those tools had pre-formated the partitions I created?
I use the socket 754 3700+ with 3gb pc3200 ram on win 98se with a 120gb ssd / ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard and radeon x800xt graphics card in an antec super lanboy aluminium case with antec 350w power supply, its an amazing machine, i use it more than my £1350 msi gs66 stealth laptop!
4:07 how to change back the name windows me on windows 98se system properties . I just want to change back as windows 98se as original . I also installed the auto-patcher.
Hey Phil, why DX7? Have you tested out the different versions? I've always wondered what version works best with the Voodoo cards. It would be really cool to see a very in-depth video on this with loads of game benchmarks/tests and have it _finally_ settled once and for all, after 2+ decades...
I have to ask, and others probably have in the past, why use such a large SSD when there are 16,32gb or even a 64gb SSD's out there? Nice to see the retro gear being used again.
I know ..many of your subcriber still cant build win98 pc due to very hard to get Agp card and Agp motherboard nowsday im glad that luckiky i still keep my two old pc ,P4 skt 428 and Athlon 64....( 128mb ddr1 x 2 )..RivaTNT2 , GEF4 mx440 , Radeon 9000pro... SBlaster value
Fun fact: you can run Windows 98 on unsupported chipsets and many early PCIe GPUs are supported (up to the 6600GT and X800 officially if I'm not mistaken, some more if you mod the drivers). I've successfully benched with 3dMark99Max [6110] / 2000 [31157] / 2001SE [24735] / 2003 [9315] a Core2 system on a P5K SE board with a PCIe GeForce 6800 (the PCIe version isn't officially supported by the latest driver, but modding the ini to trick it works). I didn't try older games, in fact the only game I tried was VTM: Bloodlines, a game that was released after XP, so there might be unfixable issues with some older games because you're limited in the driver you can use, but that's cool Win9x works on such a "modern" plateform nonetheless.
@@explorer9049 I can't tell, maybe indeed either VIA and/or NVIDIA's implementation(s) are slightly out of spec and hence make an unreliable combination. I ran into a similar issue with a SB Audigy 2 ZS (PCI sound card) where depending on the motherboard I had more or less crackling. From what I remember my P5KSE (Core2 system) had way less sound artifacts than when I tried it on other boards. When you read in the forums, it seems that Creative speced some filtering capacitor to meet the requirements without any extra capacitance and then even brand new these cards could have issues with some mobos (and with age, and degraded capacitors, they start to have issues on any motherboard).
Has the kX driver matured enough to be a suitable substitute for Creative's old beast? Still got my compatible Live!s and an Audigy2 but I usually just use the onboard and haven't touched them in almost a decade.
Hey Phil, maybe I could get your help. I emulated the exact setup/configuration as you did but the game I'm trying to play causes low FPS during certain graphical processes. I have tried many troubleshooting steps and I think it might be the emulated hardware. Have you tested any other configurations for gaming with the necessary drivers? My host machine is a gaming laptop so I know that's not the issue
So you didn’t use boot disc? I just built an XP with 550Ti and Asus P5Q Pro mb and want to build Win98SE next on Asus P4P 800-E deluxe that I have. However, just found I that I can’t use my Radeon 3850 and will be getting Fx5500
Hey man I really love your Retro Videos and I miss your Retro builds. You inspired me to build an Awesome Retro PC. I like to Install Windows me on it. Z77 & 3570K. Any Tips? Thanks.
I would like to reinstall my win98 box but now a days PXE is the way to go. Haven't put much thought into automating Win98 install... one plan was to image a VM (ghost or clonezilla) and then do separate partitions and then use Grub2 or some other boot manager. Any automation ideas would be helpful! :-) Great vid for people who haven't installed 98 before... those of us who has a PHD in next next finish knows that the skill is needed with that awesome OS. Haha... thx Phil. :-)
I've done a video on using automated answer file. From typing SETUP no user interaction is needed. Just once do you have to accept the terms and licence key (pre filled) and that's it. On a faster Retro PC with SSD Windows 98 SE is fully installed and ready to go under 10 minutes. I haven't found something easy to use for mucking around with PXE so never done much...
: ) great video.... ; ) .......... I found my old P5A in the shed. It had a TNT and ISA SB awe32 with 3 64MB sticks and K6-2 450, running WinME. ........... So, I loaded W98se.... It lost the USB, TNT drv, and sound..... 24hrs later it works. Mostly, lol. It will reboot but not shutdown. And booting into dos from GUI is a no-go. Maybe I'll try the OEM from winworld and retire my copy of 98......... ; ) .......... The harddrive is 30gb and boy does it, 'GRIND', when it is R/W......
I know you may not need that much space but can you format a 1TB drive to be many little drives so you can use at least more of the space on it? Is that even a thing?
Can you please tell us more about why you limited to 7.844GB in the BIOS? Why this value? In addition, why not let the BIOS use the full drive, then create a smaller 7.844GB partition instead? You could then create additional storage partitions after. Isn't the size limit of Windows 98 larger than 7.844GB anyway? I thought it was much larger. Sorry for all of the questions. Would just love to know more about your preference of this BIOS limiting approach.
hi! how to install this driver if i can’t mount it from usb (obviously)/cd/3.5/internet? And please help how to create new internet connection via login/password?
I'm not sure if this tip still works and this is based off of someone's menthod of speeding up an installation of Windows 98 SE. I was once told that if you were to copy the Win98 folder on to a preformated FAT32 SSD or HDD. You could speed up the installation process by 40% via IDE.
i need help: How install Windows 98 on modern pc? - for install we use 'setup /pi; - some drivers can be found... but the USB we have the NUSB 3.6; - for graphics we can use the VESA; - but for Windows audio??? and MS-DOS audio? please help me more... i have several problems on MS-DOS audio :( i tried the VMDSound.. sometimes works fine and others time don't :(
I have an emachines t2865 with an asus a7v400-mx motherboard that is still supporting drivers from windows 98 se! Unfortunately, the computer no longer turns on (fans are spinning, but no power goes to the hard drives and cds). Would I need to get another motherboard?
I need help guys I have abitvt7 board 120 gb hdd setup to 8 gb using Realtek audio drivers windows 98 original and 9800se agp I want to install the drivers for the card but at the Ned of the driver instalation the process just quits and does not install the drivers drivers
Just built a retro PC with windows XP (Pentium 4 era) Have a voodoo 1 but the 2D card I have is a Cirrus Logic graphics card. On XP and above 1ghz - that may create issues. Would you suggest like a 9600,9700,9800 Radeon? Planning on playing Duke Nukem Atomic Ed, Doom3, Hexen, Halo, testing out old versions of Cinema 4D.
Hi Phil. Lots of ideas coming into the comments here. It would be fantastic if you ended up with some kind of hivemind best of win98se install so that people had a baseline, with perhaps reasosn to deviate from that baseline - e.g. xbox controller etc.
One last thing you should do is either grab the 98 plus CD or an older version of 7Zip, as Win98 doesn't have native zip file support. Also, I haven't tested your driver yet, but USB support on Win98 is strange out of the box. USB keyboards and mice work no problem, but USB flash drives aren't recognized at all. What I do instead is I yank-out the Win98 hard-drive to insert the driver installer for the network card, and transfer the rest through ftp/ssh. Makes it a little more convenient than transferring through USB.
I use that usb driver, it is very very useful. I tend to do what you suggested Phil, make a CD with display, network, chipset and usb. then The rest of my software/ drivers live on usb stick. I had acquired a Rage 128 Pro (ultra version) but it was a dell OEM version, so had to add the dev id's to retail ATi driver to get it to install. (dell drivers worked but lacked all resolutions and lacked control panel) - that OPTi soundcard does work in windows 98, interestingly you have to install its driver manually and as 'other devices' and it shows up in its own device group but does give sound. I use winworld for all my softwares (except drivers) - have you given the Windows 98SE unofficial SP1 add on?
I'm not familiar with that card. It always depends on the condition, but also if you have the packing and all the accessories. That's what collectors would want.
@ PhilsComputerLab nice:) I like your computer retro videos. I have install Windows 98 too on my old PC with Pentium 3 and Riva TNT 2 pro it works fine But I have a question why now couple of games lagging so much like Deus EX? And Hitman Codename 47 have texture glitches no. before i have format the HDD Deues EX don't have this fps slow downs and it deosn't matter if Settings are Low its the same. And Hitman codenae47 works fine no texture glitches why i have this problem now even with other OSS like Windows 2000 and XP? What causes this error? Please help
I spend alot of time and money to build a good old Windows 98se Pentium or AMD system but every time I got an error or blue Screen. Imo a Windows XP sp2 around year 2003-2005 Retro System works better and support better driver for Mainboard, Sound Card and Video card's.
In 2003 I install Windows 98 se Along with windows me . Windows xp sp2 or sp1 And some times Windows 2000/ nt / 2003 But above 4 os i have run. In my laptop I do not have dvd drive and no floppy drive Both drive I have order I order usb floppy and usb dvd drive .
I'm restoring an old Compaq pre-build system but I can't for the life of me find the right drivers ... (compaq deskpro EN 6/P800 SFF) any help on the matter would be most appreciated
@@philscomputerlab I just tried to install windows xp ... the system refuses to boot from the disc for some reason. Even disabled the hdd and only setup the disc as a boot device and still runs off the hdd.
I usually leave the partition ready before. Then I copy the win98 folder (from de Win98 instalation cd) to the c drive, install from there, the advantage is that when Windows needs files from the cd, it copies them without asking to insert the cd.
Exactly what I've always done. :)
Ditto - good ol' C:\WIN_98.CD
@@RetroJack Or 'C:\WIN98' :)
There’s always the option to change the registry key (“HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \CurrentVersion \ Setup \ source path”, set to C:\Win98”) so the system doesn’t ask for the windows 98 CD (That’s only necessary if you did install from the CD initially) and you’ll need to copy the files from the win98 folder inside the CD to C:\Win98
@@mc42d0 Good to know that you could do that afterward. Another reason I used to copy the installation directory was that the installation process felt quicker.
Love fast 'modern' Win98 setups. Last one I did recently with an ECS 662/1066T-M2, SiS chipset, C2D 8500, ViBRA128 and 6600GT DDR3 gave 27711 in 3dMark2001
Was that 6600 PCI-E or AGP ?
Copy the 98 files in folder on the hd. Whenever 98 needs drivers from cd you can point to that directory... saves a lot of discjuggling and you can reinstall from there too
For my 98se builds, I also use the unofficial service pack, since it includes so many bits that help make it well, almost usable as an environment to even get other non-gaming stuff done. Though for a real metal install, I stop at version 3.65; the updates to 3.66 seem more geared to a VM install, and seems to break on a real environment, which is disappointing. :(
DirectX 9.0(c?) was pretty much a must, to get a geforce 6800 or a Radeon x850 to work on 98se; the performance with those cards is bonkers. Then again, one of my big motivators to do such builds is to load up a game, look at the audio/video settings and just go "yes, I want that on."
Great video.
I use a 500GB/250GB sata hard drive + adapter. Use live cd of linux (mint or zorin) to format the hard drive (120GB+120GB, rest unformated because lazyness), copy the cd of win98 and drivers to the first partition (C), games and programs to the second partition. Finally install hard drive to the pc and start with the win98 diskette. Been working good so far.
Cheers Phil, great to see more content from you :-)
Perfect timing! You are always a great help.
While the primary partition might be limited to 8gb, Win98se can see other partitions that are fat32 formated and can comfortably see partitions of 30 or 40 gb in size.
I'm almost certain I installed Win98SE on a 32GiB FAT32 primary partition.
think thats a good retro setup, 8GB main and maby 20GB or 40GB on the extra disk for all the games :D
I use it with a hdd with a 115gb partition on it since 120gb is the limit.
@@n646n Yes. Problem is just in original Fdisk. If you want to format whole partition, you can set fdisk to 100% and it will format any disk size to maximum, ofc less than 120GB. Or you can download updated Fdisk, that displays size correctly to 120GB limit.
Thanks Phil, I just picked up an MSI PM8M-V Socket 478 VIA P4M800 motherboard with a 3ghz P4 and 2x512 sticks of ram for $36.50 off ebay in the US. I couldn't pass it up. board was spotless and works great..P4 boards on ebay are way overpriced..
My system that I built about a year ago is running Me with a ssd. Thanks to all your videos and drivers
As i remember it, directx v8.1 worked very well with 98se, and was plenty backwards compatible. Installing directx 9 would break support for dx6 games and older.
The best combo i remember was, 98se with directx 8.1 and geforce 4 ti 4400 or 4600 with driver version 44.03 for good backwards compatibility and very good performance. Going from 44.03 to the 45.xx version would take about 30% of my 3dmark scores.
I have made my own bootdisk floppy and a my own install cd with windows 98se. Stolen the idea from microsoft win98 boot disk with ramdrive. So i can load up a full dos 6.22 from a arj file in a 12mb ram drive with norton commander, partiton magic and ghost. The cd is bootable too, but older bios can't boot directly from cd. i have made this in a dos6.22 and a dos 7.10 versions.
So i can partition the drive and copy over the files i need to a 3rd or 4th drive/partition. and install from there.
So i won't have to deal with the windows 98 cd every time a driver has to be installed. Then make a ghost image of the windows partition and save that as a file on the 3rd/4th drive/partition aswell.
I never heard of a new direct x breaking an older version. Can you elaborate on that one please? My win 98 installations always have 9.0c
@@KaziQTR i can't remember which games specifically, only that i had issues with dx6 and older when dx9 was installed. at that time i found some forum that mentioned some of the api calls had been overwritten. So if the old game used some dx6 api handle, but you have dx9 installed the game would break because it was not the instructions performed that the game programing was expecting.
@@bco1981 interesting. Never heard of this before. Thanks.
DirectX 9 for me is needed for the Xbox 360 controller, never had it break older games for me. What it does break is dxdiag, but that one i can do without.
Never heard of this either, always used directX 9.0c. Maybe it was only a few specific obscure games?
That 3D Mark demo reel brings back fond memories.
It was so lovely when Microsoft made the win98 CD bootable.
I've actually used bootable 9x discs to boot other non-bootable things (like an OSR install of 95).
I remember being at the Acer test lab (they shipped our multimedia software on their consumer machines), and they were talking about the "bootable CDs" that would be coming into the lab in a couple weeks. Seemed such an advanced feature back then, these days I couldn't imagine a system *without* the capability.
@@SenileOtaku i can't imagine a (new) system with the capability (built in)
You can also boot from floppy
Or windows 2000 / nt / 2003
Then shift to windows 98
Specific folder where setup exe available.
As typing setup.exe
Setup start
Your first line of your sentence clashes with your second line sentence. Not accusing you of not helping but it sure looks like bs from a new user standpoint. I’m sure I’ll see more of this false hope around videos on topic
Thanks for reminding me of the existence of this soundtrack. Just as awesome as couple of decades ago.
Solid tutorial as always Phil! 🤠👍
amazing vid phil as usual!!!! cheers and have a nice weekend mate!
How to install Windows 98 for retro gaming. It's easy! Just watch Phil's Computer Lab
My Windows 98 is a little different. Has the unofficial SP3 + other patches that enables 2+GB RAM, 32 bit driver fix for 130ish GB HDD fix and such. Thanks for the files you host on your website. They are very useful. My retro computer is still work in progress.
Great
thanks for the refresh and yes finding drivers can be a pain for motherboards.
The professor returns !!! Thanks a bunch
Nice guide, I normally use a boot cd with partition magic, partition/format my HDD, do a sys command so the HDD become bootable and copy all the files I would need connecting the HDD to a modern computer. I try to avoid copying files from floppies and CDs, but sometimes it is just plain easier to install using the Win98 OEM disc like you did here.
I first tried to install Windows 98 on my retro PC using the optical drive, but since I'm using an SD to IDE adapter and only had one IDE cable I had issues with the master / slave configuration and couldn't get it to work properly. I tried to install using USB with easy2boot but had issues because of the motherboard I was using (ECS K7S5A, Athlon XP platform) not properly supporting USB boot. Since I use an SD to IDE adapter for my machine, my solution was to mount the SD card on my modern PC and use VMWare to do the first part of the Windows install. Before the first reboot took place, I shut down the VM and put the SD card into the retro machine with the contents of the Windows 98 SE CD copied to the root of the SD card as well. This allowed me to continue setup as normal. I then installed the USB mass storage drivers and it was off to the races. Now that I have everything set up and configured exactly how I like it, I have a full image backup of the SD card stored on my server and could just restore that image to the SD card if necessary. I've since gotten a separate IDE cable for the optical drive as well, so that's an option now. If you run into any of the issues that I did though, the VMWare route actually works really well to give you a baseline bootable hard disk ready to configure the OS.
Thanks for the guide. The USB and Audigy drivers are very useful. Shame on Intel for pulling the drivers. (P4 2.8Ghz intel D865gbf 1Gb DDR 400 Patriot, IDE HDD, Floppy 3.5, SB Live Value)
Nice video Phil! I miss a lot your retrogaming test video about old systems and videocards... Please return as one time!
Thanks for the Video Phil
I like to make a seperate Partition and put all the Drivers and Programs I need there to get the OS up and Running.
I copy the Windows files there and Install from there also.
This takes me back in time.
I still like creating an initial install on a drive and then image it with Macrium Reflect. Super easy to just restore the image to a drive and then just tackle drivers for the specific system thereafter. 👍
Happy PhilDay Viewers!
I ran the 3d mark 2001 from Phil's recently on win XP, and I got 19823 on g210 with wolfdale 5700.
I have all the drivers on a spare 160gb drive, & just copy them over as required. NUSB install files are on a cd, so I can do those after windows is installed. Sometimes I even put the source files onto the hard drive & install directly from there if I'm having issues with optical drive detection.
To install Windows 98 SE, I format a drive on another computer as FAT32, copy the contents of the install CD to a folder on the hard drive called WIN98CD, and run the setup from there. That way, when installing other things it will never ask for the CD again, and will just streamline things much faster and easier. Hope this helps!
There are a few drivers I'd swap out.
The chipset driver I use my own modified VIA driver which is the 5.14 driver modified to work on older via motherboards as well. Should run on pretty much all of them and avoids things like the installation problems on the T5710.
I'd also swap out the USB 2.0 driver and NUSB driver with U98SEUSB which includes both along other ones such as the Xbox 360 Controller driver.
I had no Idea you could use an Xbox 360 controller on Win98SE... that's wild, lol.
@@kunka592 Has to be a wired one but with that modified driver thats inside U98SEUSB and DirectX 9 it can totally be done!
A PS4 controller however just works out of the box on Windows 98, which is even more wild.
11:27 Funny seeing Raja Koduri credited in something so old.
Would it be worth the hassle trying the TRIM solution (rloew) on a SSD drive?
1. If your retro gaming PC has an ethernet adapter (especially Realtek RTL8139) and capable of PXE Boot, you can configure a prebuilt DOS boot disk (which can be significantly larger than a standard floppy disk) with LAN drivers and use your PXE server to sideload it to your retro gaming PC. The PXE server can be established easily with TFTPD64 or TFTPD32.
I have an 11.52MB prebuilt image that contains most of ethernet adapter drivers. It's pretty useful especially on laptops without CD-ROM drive or floppy drive.
2. Some commercial programs like Symantec Ghost supports transferring prebuilt partition image to your PC with GhostCast, so you can simply transfer your prebuilt Windows image and apply to your PC.
3. Copying Windows 9x setup files to your HDD before installation is always recommended to speed up procedure or driver installation.
4. Once you have Windows and ethernet driver installed, you can transfer files with SMB or HTTP File Server from your another PC.
5. For Windows 98/Me/2000 I personally prefer DirectX 8.1b for wider game support.
6. If you can pull the internal HDD/SSD and connect to your modern PC, some virtual machine apps also support mounting physical HDD/SSD for virtual machine usage, which can provide generally faster installation speed.
You forgot the biggest tip for installing Windows 98. When you first go to install it and boot from 98 CD or floppy disk and have fdisk and formatted the hard drive in DOS change to your C: then "mkdir win98" and then change directory to the win98 folder on the Windows 98 CDROM. Then copy everything from d:\win98 to c:\win98 and go back to the C:\win98 folder and run setup.exe from there with "setup /is" which skips scandisk and starts the setup. This stops Windows 98 from asking you to insert the 98 CD every time you install drivers or make a change to Windows.
Great video, as usual. Can't believe you didn't install the Windows 98 screen protectors! XD
Yea keep a lean installation for Gaming 🙂
If you're going to do this more then once invest in some swappable drive bays or ide to usb convertors. They will make your life so much easier.
First connect the drive to your retro machine, boot from a floppy, create and format a partition, then make it bootable using the sys command or "format c: /s" or "sys c:" Then connect the drive to modern pc, add an install folder on the drive and copy all your operating system installers, drivers and other tools to it. Optionally make a disk image of this drive. Then move the drive back to the retro machine, boot from it and then run the OS installer you want.
I've been trying to set up something similar with my ThinkPad T23, but with an IDE-to-SD adapter. Problem I've encountered is getting the card plugged into the drive bay; the HDD slots in the side of the laptop, but getting the pins to plug into the connector has proven impossible (the adapter doesn't have the usual screw mounts, so you'd have to dummy up something like a fake HDD to hold it). I'll probably have to open up the chassis to install the adapter.
I do have a few old PATA laptop drives, but I'm concerned about the wear on the connector, and expect repeatedly swapping drives will eventually break it.
I wanted to put together some demonstrations of the multimedia software from the company I used to work for (Future Vision Multimedia), and would want to readily re-image the OS. Maybe I'll figure out a triple-boot with Win98, Win2000, and some minimal Linux partition (using the Linux partition to do the re-imaging).
@@SenileOtaku I the old days I used to put 3.5" drive in a caddy that fit into a 5.25 frame. I used to have multiple caddies and a frame in each computer. The caddies and frame used a large Centronics connector which seemed to handle repeated use quite well.
Great video, I have an old version of everest that I use to identify hardware. I do things almost exactly the same.
Nice video. You are the best resource for building a retro pc imho. Now XP my friend 😀
G'day Phil,
Thanks so much because this type of video with links for Unsupported OS Installation is very helpful, Would it be possible to get a XP Install, Activation & Update video too?
For older Motherboards Gigabyte is my first choice too as getting the relative Drivers from their site is so much easier than the other partners, that ASRock to ASUS trick is a good one.
Simple and sweet, Win 98 OEM ISO is the best thing since sliced bread.
Have you tried using a DVD instead of the CD, are there any differences? Thanks!
Shouldn't make a difference, but some old optical drives cannot read DVD, that's pretty much it.
Excellent guide, thanks for putting it together!
I love your videos!
I resurrect old PCs for Windows 98SE. Most are given to me by friends and haven’t been used in years. I’ve installed voodoo cards, cache memory, new RAM sticks, etc. I noticed this: Some components like cache memory and VooDoo cards that haven’t been used in 20 years take a while to “wake up”. Not kidding. I had a voodoo2 in SLI that would not work until it was installed and running for several hours. It woke up and has worked reliably since. Same with a cache CELP stick that I recently installed. It caused errors in PCMark and 3DMark99 for a day, then became stable.
What is this phenomenon? Anybody else experience this?
UPDATE: The cache stick I used has gold contacts and I got errors with Prime95. I’m fairly certain my Packard Bell motherboard only accepts tin/silver cache memory. I ordered a different stick - we’ll see if it’s compatible.
And…yeah, my voodoo2 card did actually need to be powered on a while before it came to life.
I'm using a thirdparty repacked version of 98SE with security patches and mobo drivers up to ICH5 era. Before the installation, I put Ethernet drivers to the D: partition and I install them after the OS is ready. Then I log in to my NAS using FTP and pull other things I need to the local hard drive.
Nice!
Where’d you find it?
I remember that in past (when I did not know how to use BIOS, or there was no proper boot options in it, or even how to set boot order with jumpers 😁 ) I was simply disconnecting IDE cable from hard disk to start booting from Windows 98 instalation disk 🙂 I thought that there should be a better way to do it but it was working on my PC this time (Pentium 120, probably from 1995-96, I was using it to 2004 with short break for Celeron 667 around 2002) 😎 I was younger than 10-11 years old when I was doing it this way, with next PC from 2005 I knew more about setting the boot order in BIOS 🙂
Now i'd do it differently on some Retro PC, if I had to do it my old way now I would do it only with the precision of a sapper 😁
I now copy 9x to the install drive, install and run FreeDOS, skip FreeDOS setup (F5 IIRC), locate 9x's install folder, type setup /nm /is, wait and done.
not sure if you know about this, but the reason win95/98/DOS formatting takes so long is because it does a checksum on every sector it formats. You can speed it up a whole bunch by using the /q flag which skips this (and it isnt really needed anyway, especially on modern storage devices, including hard drives)
The Quick Format only works if the drive is already formatted though...
@@philscomputerlab nope, it works on a freshly fdisk'd drive too
@@gl5301 Nope it doesn't I'm afraid.
@@philscomputerlab definitely did do, has done, and did on the old machine I refurbished today !
@@philscomputerlab I would have swore it does because I don't remember ever doing a normal format and each time I hear you say how long it is to format a large partition I always think "why doesn't he just use /q"... but I wouldn't dare to argue with you ahah Maybe it worked for me (and that G L?) because I've always used Partition Magic or Windows XP's disk manager to create the FAT/FAT32 partitions and those tools had pre-formated the partitions I created?
how do you get the drivers for these pcs? since intel doesnt provide the actual latest?
I like using the autopatcher for Windows 98SE now as well, prefer it over the unofficial service pack
I'm just getting ready for a retro project and I'm going to put together a Windows 98 computer
I use the socket 754 3700+ with 3gb pc3200 ram on win 98se with a 120gb ssd / ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard and radeon x800xt graphics card in an antec super lanboy aluminium case with antec 350w power supply, its an amazing machine, i use it more than my £1350 msi gs66 stealth laptop!
Great tutorial.
4:07 how to change back the name windows me on windows 98se system properties . I just want to change back as windows 98se as original . I also installed the auto-patcher.
Many thanks! :)
Hello! There is only one question. Why you use so weak graphic card with so powerful CPU? R9250/ MX440/GF3ti200 be much better.
That's what I had at hand and it has DVI which makes for easy capturing 🙂
Hey Phil, why DX7? Have you tested out the different versions? I've always wondered what version works best with the Voodoo cards. It would be really cool to see a very in-depth video on this with loads of game benchmarks/tests and have it _finally_ settled once and for all, after 2+ decades...
I have to ask, and others probably have in the past, why use such a large SSD when there are 16,32gb or even a 64gb SSD's out there?
Nice to see the retro gear being used again.
I like to use what I have at hand and not buy more stuff 😅
What is the name of the song that's playing in the background? I've heard it before.
After every new OS release from ms - Windows 98 only gets better.
I know ..many of your subcriber still cant build win98 pc due to very hard to get Agp card and Agp motherboard nowsday
im glad that luckiky i still keep my two old pc ,P4 skt 428 and Athlon 64....( 128mb ddr1 x 2 )..RivaTNT2 , GEF4 mx440 , Radeon 9000pro... SBlaster value
But somebody can use a cheap thin client.
Fun fact: you can run Windows 98 on unsupported chipsets and many early PCIe GPUs are supported (up to the 6600GT and X800 officially if I'm not mistaken, some more if you mod the drivers). I've successfully benched with 3dMark99Max [6110] / 2000 [31157] / 2001SE [24735] / 2003 [9315] a Core2 system on a P5K SE board with a PCIe GeForce 6800 (the PCIe version isn't officially supported by the latest driver, but modding the ini to trick it works). I didn't try older games, in fact the only game I tried was VTM: Bloodlines, a game that was released after XP, so there might be unfixable issues with some older games because you're limited in the driver you can use, but that's cool Win9x works on such a "modern" plateform nonetheless.
@@explorer9049 I can't tell, maybe indeed either VIA and/or NVIDIA's implementation(s) are slightly out of spec and hence make an unreliable combination. I ran into a similar issue with a SB Audigy 2 ZS (PCI sound card) where depending on the motherboard I had more or less crackling. From what I remember my P5KSE (Core2 system) had way less sound artifacts than when I tried it on other boards. When you read in the forums, it seems that Creative speced some filtering capacitor to meet the requirements without any extra capacitance and then even brand new these cards could have issues with some mobos (and with age, and degraded capacitors, they start to have issues on any motherboard).
Good job, thanks for sharing
Has the kX driver matured enough to be a suitable substitute for Creative's old beast? Still got my compatible Live!s and an Audigy2 but I usually just use the onboard and haven't touched them in almost a decade.
I don't see reason to not use Creative drivers, they are excellent, especially for playing Games with EAX support 🙂
Hey Phil, maybe I could get your help.
I emulated the exact setup/configuration as you did but the game I'm trying to play causes low FPS during certain graphical processes. I have tried many troubleshooting steps and I think it might be the emulated hardware.
Have you tested any other configurations for gaming with the necessary drivers?
My host machine is a gaming laptop so I know that's not the issue
Great tutorial :D Love it :D
ive got both rgaphics card and soundcard
Good video as useal Phil,When are you going to do a Windows ME instal?
Not sure I will 😅 I see no advantage over 98 and the next best thing is XP.
So you didn’t use boot disc? I just built an XP with 550Ti and Asus P5Q Pro mb and want to build Win98SE next on Asus P4P 800-E deluxe that I have. However, just found I that I can’t use my Radeon 3850 and will be getting Fx5500
Hey man I really love your Retro Videos and I miss your Retro builds. You inspired me to build an Awesome Retro PC. I like to Install Windows me on it. Z77 & 3570K. Any Tips? Thanks.
I would like to reinstall my win98 box but now a days PXE is the way to go. Haven't put much thought into automating Win98 install... one plan was to image a VM (ghost or clonezilla) and then do separate partitions and then use Grub2 or some other boot manager. Any automation ideas would be helpful! :-)
Great vid for people who haven't installed 98 before... those of us who has a PHD in next next finish knows that the skill is needed with that awesome OS. Haha... thx Phil. :-)
I've done a video on using automated answer file. From typing SETUP no user interaction is needed. Just once do you have to accept the terms and licence key (pre filled) and that's it. On a faster Retro PC with SSD Windows 98 SE is fully installed and ready to go under 10 minutes. I haven't found something easy to use for mucking around with PXE so never done much...
all physical, cool! I prefer virtual, and as someone mention in comments - win98 should be better with cumulative update pack
Comanche with a sidewinder yeeessss
: ) great video.... ; ) .......... I found my old P5A in the shed. It had a TNT and ISA SB awe32 with 3 64MB sticks and K6-2 450, running WinME. ........... So, I loaded W98se.... It lost the USB, TNT drv, and sound..... 24hrs later it works. Mostly, lol. It will reboot but not shutdown. And booting into dos from GUI is a no-go. Maybe I'll try the OEM from winworld and retire my copy of 98......... ; ) .......... The harddrive is 30gb and boy does it, 'GRIND', when it is R/W......
I know you may not need that much space but can you format a 1TB drive to be many little drives so you can use at least more of the space on it?
Is that even a thing?
Can you please tell us more about why you limited to 7.844GB in the BIOS? Why this value? In addition, why not let the BIOS use the full drive, then create a smaller 7.844GB partition instead? You could then create additional storage partitions after. Isn't the size limit of Windows 98 larger than 7.844GB anyway? I thought it was much larger. Sorry for all of the questions. Would just love to know more about your preference of this BIOS limiting approach.
hi! how to install this driver if i can’t mount it from usb (obviously)/cd/3.5/internet?
And please help how to create new internet connection via login/password?
I'm not sure if this tip still works and this is based off of someone's menthod of speeding up an installation of Windows 98 SE.
I was once told that if you were to copy the Win98 folder on to a preformated FAT32 SSD or HDD. You could speed up the installation process by 40% via IDE.
i need help: How install Windows 98 on modern pc?
- for install we use 'setup /pi;
- some drivers can be found... but the USB we have the NUSB 3.6;
- for graphics we can use the VESA;
- but for Windows audio??? and MS-DOS audio? please help me more... i have several problems on MS-DOS audio :( i tried the VMDSound.. sometimes works fine and others time don't :(
I have an emachines t2865 with an asus a7v400-mx motherboard that is still supporting drivers from windows 98 se! Unfortunately, the computer no longer turns on (fans are spinning, but no power goes to the hard drives and cds). Would I need to get another motherboard?
I need help guys I have abitvt7 board 120 gb hdd setup to 8 gb using Realtek audio drivers windows 98 original and 9800se agp I want to install the drivers for the card but at the Ned of the driver instalation the process just quits and does not install the drivers drivers
Just built a retro PC with windows XP (Pentium 4 era) Have a voodoo 1 but the 2D card I have is a Cirrus Logic graphics card. On XP and above 1ghz - that may create issues. Would you suggest like a 9600,9700,9800 Radeon? Planning on playing Duke Nukem Atomic Ed, Doom3, Hexen, Halo, testing out old versions of Cinema 4D.
Those Radeon cards will work great with XP.
What do you do for updates, browser and utilities?
Nothing. I use Windows 98 SE for running old games and that's what the video is about :)
I like the music! Any idea where I can get it?
What music?
Hi Phil. Lots of ideas coming into the comments here. It would be fantastic if you ended up with some kind of hivemind best of win98se install so that people had a baseline, with perhaps reasosn to deviate from that baseline - e.g. xbox controller etc.
Nice, nice. Good to see so many options 🙂
great video
One last thing you should do is either grab the 98 plus CD or an older version of 7Zip, as Win98 doesn't have native zip file support.
Also, I haven't tested your driver yet, but USB support on Win98 is strange out of the box. USB keyboards and mice work no problem, but USB flash drives aren't recognized at all.
What I do instead is I yank-out the Win98 hard-drive to insert the driver installer for the network card, and transfer the rest through ftp/ssh. Makes it a little more convenient than transferring through USB.
Yes there are heaps of options, I went with the most straight forward ones IMO.
And why did you choose OEM? Why not retail or select ? What's the difference?
Retail was for upgrading from 95, OEM for new PCs.
I use that usb driver, it is very very useful. I tend to do what you suggested Phil, make a CD with display, network, chipset and usb. then The rest of my software/ drivers live on usb stick.
I had acquired a Rage 128 Pro (ultra version) but it was a dell OEM version, so had to add the dev id's to retail ATi driver to get it to install. (dell drivers worked but lacked all resolutions and lacked control panel) - that OPTi soundcard does work in windows 98, interestingly you have to install its driver manually and as 'other devices' and it shows up in its own device group but does give sound. I use winworld for all my softwares (except drivers) - have you given the Windows 98SE unofficial SP1 add on?
Yes tried the service pack. It's nice but for retro gaming adds nothing measurable that I could notice ...
@@philscomputerlab that' what I thought - thanks for clearing that up. I couldn't notice any difference either.
im hoping one day theres a good raspberry pi cdrom ide emulator made so that we dont have to rely on cds anymore just like the gotek drives.
Yes a cheap GOTEK type product for optical drives. A shame they are available for consoles, but not for the Retro PC community...
@@philscomputerlab yes, prob will be soon since alot of cd drives are on the way out because of capacitor issues.
Hello Phil, I have a question, i have a 3DLabs FireGL 1000 8Mb with PCI interface. Have this professional graphics card some valuable?
Sold listings on ebay says 30 usd for the agp version so I'd imagine 5 - 25 usd too the right collector.
I'm not familiar with that card. It always depends on the condition, but also if you have the packing and all the accessories. That's what collectors would want.
@@philscomputerlab Thank you for answers!
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nice:) I like your computer retro videos. I have install Windows 98 too on my old PC with Pentium 3 and Riva TNT 2 pro it works fine
But I have a question why now couple of games lagging so much like Deus EX? And Hitman Codename 47 have texture glitches no. before i have format the HDD Deues EX don't have this fps slow downs and it deosn't matter if Settings are Low its the same. And Hitman codenae47 works fine no texture glitches why i have this problem now even with other OSS like Windows 2000 and XP? What causes this error? Please help
I spend alot of time and money to build a good old Windows 98se Pentium or AMD system but every time I got an error or blue Screen. Imo a Windows XP sp2 around year 2003-2005 Retro System works better and support better driver for Mainboard, Sound Card and Video card's.
Thanks for the video Phil. It would be nice if you did with windows 95 osr 2.5. I have a very old pc, and I can't install it on it.
Thanks man
In 2003
I install
Windows 98 se
Along with windows me . Windows xp sp2 or sp1
And some times
Windows 2000/ nt / 2003
But above 4 os i have run.
In my laptop
I do not have dvd drive and no floppy drive
Both drive I have order
I order usb floppy and usb dvd drive .
why did you use sata to ide adapter? the motherboard has sata
This motherboard used chipset from VIA and their SATA controllers are not very good, especially for Windows 98. IDE works flawless however.
1TB SSD. Use only ~0.8% of it. Awesome. =)
SSD Over Provisioning 🙂
Windows 98 Can support a 1TB HDD with the help of R Loew's 1TB Patch. (may that man Rest in peace.... the 9x community lost a great mind ;-;)
I'm restoring an old Compaq pre-build system but I can't for the life of me find the right drivers ... (compaq deskpro EN 6/P800 SFF) any help on the matter would be most appreciated
Install XP and identify all the components. Or Linux. Then hunt down 98 drivers from other companies websites.
Install XP and identify all the components. Or Linux. Then hunt down 98 drivers from other companies websites.
@@philscomputerlab I just tried to install windows xp ... the system refuses to boot from the disc for some reason. Even disabled the hdd and only setup the disc as a boot device and still runs off the hdd.