PCem Windows 98 Setup (Pentium II +Voodoo 3, all files provided)

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    Screamer 4x4: adtr.co/wOhHze
    Unreal Gold: Was delisted from GOG Booooo
    Total Annihilation Demo: archive.org/details/TotalAnni...
    Incoming Demo: download.cnet.com/Incoming-de...
    System Shock 2 Demo: archive.org/details/SystemSho...
    The Curse of Monkey Island Demo: archive.org/details/cursmon1
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    00:00 Resources
    0:40 Copy ROMs
    0:58 Configure PC specifications
    3:08 Launch PCem
    3:11 Configure BIOS
    3:53 Install Windows 98 SE
    7:18 Housekeeping
    7:56 Copy files into emulated PC
    8:41 Install drivers
    10:24 Tweak settings
    11:38 Install 3DMark
    11:46 Full screen and scaling options
    13:34 Emulation speed
    14:06 99 Max
    14:24 Playing Screamer 4x4
    16:49 Playing Total Annihilation
    18:34 Closing ramblings
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Комментарии • 765

  • @KoalaG888
    @KoalaG888 11 месяцев назад +54

    PCem or VirtualBox - which is better?
    emulation or a virtual machine?

    • @IstvanNagy86
      @IstvanNagy86 11 месяцев назад +50

      For retro game compatibility you cannot beat PCem. There are tools like SoftGPU for VirtualBox, but PCem emulates the vintage hardware much more faithfully.

    • @ozzyp97
      @ozzyp97 11 месяцев назад +21

      You're going to have a bad time trying to run anything 3D accelerated with VirtualBox, and there might also be issues with sound and cpu speed. It's just not designed with retro gaming in mind.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +21

      Never used VirtualBox and haven't heard much talk about using it for retro games.

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool 11 месяцев назад +12

      PCem is way better for older systems than VB is, VB is only really interested in somewhat recent systems.

    • @mesterak
      @mesterak 11 месяцев назад +32

      I’ve have extensively tested both VMWare and VirtualBox for 98 and it’s terrible. PCEm or 86Box are the way to go for Win98 emulation.

  • @philipsmith5389
    @philipsmith5389 11 месяцев назад +17

    WoW! Thank you Phil! Another fantastic video! I will defiantly try this out, I have always used vintage equipment for my Retro setups but as parts get harder to find and more expensive this is is indeed a wonderful alternative for Retro Gamers!

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade 11 месяцев назад +18

    Wow, this video was absolutely awesome! What a treat, especially having all the resources collected in one place!

  • @scorpian007
    @scorpian007 11 месяцев назад +2

    Perfect timing. I was going to suggest in a previous video whether you could look into PCem as it seems to have evolved nicely.

  • @bbertram2
    @bbertram2 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is awesome! I played with PCem a while ago but switched to hardware for the fun of it, I lack a Voodoo3 though, lol. Thank you for making this guide and doing all the work. Huge asset to the retro community.

  • @scotthaggard
    @scotthaggard 11 месяцев назад +3

    Really great walk-through, thanks Phil!

  • @thepld
    @thepld 11 месяцев назад +1

    You rock Phil - thanks for hosting the drivers!

  • @timothymurphy9733
    @timothymurphy9733 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for this, Phil. Despite emulating every console under the sun, I've held off on trying to recreate my old Win98 set-up until now, but you really have made it easy. All of your videos are great, and your work is much appreciated. Now, time to get back to playing some Pit Droids on my PCem install. . .

  • @spladam3845
    @spladam3845 11 месяцев назад +28

    Phil you are treasure and the community would like to thank you again for being so fantastic, and for doing the hard work so that we don't have to. Thanks dude.

    • @rfxtuber
      @rfxtuber 10 месяцев назад +1

      Very much like to echo those sentiments... Every time i come across a new video from phil i learn something new and useful regarding old retro stuff he does things the way i used to do them all those years ago....

  • @PaulMetalhero
    @PaulMetalhero 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing work, Phil!
    Thanks for sharing this

  • @Aydos_Barbados
    @Aydos_Barbados 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great tutorial Phil! I'll have to give this a try with Carmageddon 1&2 in glide mode.

  • @AladimBR
    @AladimBR 11 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome tutorial! Didn’t know the tool, very cool indeed - can play with different hardware. And TA is one of the best games ever - played a lot, including the expansions. It had toons of mods - and loved to play skirmishes against friends. Big Bertha cannon was so fun to use and send your enemies packing home.

  • @armchaircommenter6805
    @armchaircommenter6805 11 месяцев назад +9

    Hi Phil!
    Thanks for the compact tutorial, it's great to see you cover PCem! Maybe all the recent coverage will help/motivate the current maintainer(s) to get v18 out the door (and hopefully they will decide to change data storage back to the more intuitive/classic way it is handled in v17 prior to release, so that your tutorial remains more accurate).
    Greetings from Austria!

    • @franciscooteiza
      @franciscooteiza 8 месяцев назад

      Just get 86Box, It's great and is under developing every single day.

  • @JaredWoodruff
    @JaredWoodruff 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Phil, i'd love to see more videos on PCem about building DOS configs too; as fun as searching the internet for weeks to hunt down a single driver for my retro pc's it would be nice to have dos & 98se rigs ready to go on my pc at a moments notice :)

  • @H4X0R_666
    @H4X0R_666 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks, your guide was supper easy to follow, I had some retro HW that supports win 98 but it broke and the PCwm look awesome.

  • @amberselectronics
    @amberselectronics 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! Definitely going to have to give this a try.

  • @flightsimdeskuk
    @flightsimdeskuk 11 месяцев назад +24

    Only 17 hours ago I said I'd be interested in a video about PCEm and Win98 and you just posted it! Amazing! I assume you already had this video produced, or mostly produced? I'd not, that must be record time for such a well put together video. Well done! And thanks Phil. You are awesome. Love your channel.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +11

      Yea I think I started playing with PCem and 86Box a few weeks ago? I recorded it last weekend to give you an idea :)

    • @TheCODfatherSD
      @TheCODfatherSD 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@philscomputerlab same here Phil since I’ve seen your video I’m back at messing around with 86box and PCem
      Thanks for your video sir.

    • @michalt362
      @michalt362 9 месяцев назад

      @@philscomputerlab Great videos, everything works but I have a problem with editing the vhd file - what are you mounting / editing it in ?

    • @StoneColdza
      @StoneColdza 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@michalt362He is using Win 11 to do it. You simply shutdown PCEm, then right-click on the VHD and select the "Mount" option. That allows yo to easily copy files to the VHD. Once you're done, in Windows Explorer, just right-click the mounted drive and choose "Eject". Then fire up PCEm again :-)
      PS: It works the same way for me in Win 10 as well.

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the walk-through and providing links to all the files!

  • @MasterGGG
    @MasterGGG 9 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing tutorial, thanks Phil, us older guys can enjoy our youth, nostalgia! Thank you my friend!

  • @n-o-i-d
    @n-o-i-d 3 месяца назад +2

    I didn't even know about the "integer scaling" tip, that's awesome!

  • @ChrisSteingen
    @ChrisSteingen 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow that brings back so many memories :) Especially sitting at the Win98 Setup screen and waiting for that timer to go down to zero after another fresh install ...
    Thanks a lot dude!
    What I found strange with the installation here is, that a reboot seems to take quite a significant amount of time in a black screen state before the post screen shows up again. Actually a few minutes at times. Sometimes a hard-reset helps, sometimes even that not.
    Also upon a fresh start of the machine, sometimes it hangs for 2 minutes in a black screen at times.
    And one small remark:
    At 11:06 you change the sample rate conversion setting of your microphone ;)

  • @LordKowen
    @LordKowen 4 месяца назад

    Thank you very much Phil.
    You have a new subscriber, and I love your site too. You are a blessing, thanks for all your work.

  • @catinfection909
    @catinfection909 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice I like the Soundblaster 16 drivers or the Ensoniq AudioPCI Drivers drivers. For comparability and that what I grew up with. Love your videos.

  • @thomaspugh1255
    @thomaspugh1255 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Phil, this is fantastic! 😀 I want to have a crack at getting Jane's F-15 and other games in the series to work with pcem...

  • @NexXxus86
    @NexXxus86 11 месяцев назад +1

    Glad you listened to me and tried PCem ! ❤

  • @Endzs768
    @Endzs768 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Phil. I've been meaning to mess around with win98 on PCem for months but never got around to figuring it all out and gathering all the software and drivers but this video gave me everything i need to get it up and running last night.
    normally i just like to play the old 3d games on modern system in 4k/2160p @ 144fps through various config tweaks, patches, or source ports but some like Dark Earth (16bit installer .exe and hard coded 640x480 at 256 color) are very stubborn and fussy in win10 but loaded up instantly on this. i don't remember if its any good of a game as i haven't played since 1999 but i sure do remember the female character printed on Disc 2 😉

  • @baumstamp5989
    @baumstamp5989 11 месяцев назад +4

    thx for this comprehensive guide ! and i want to say ... total annihilation was ahead of its time. still one of the best RTS ever made with the 3d height map and infninite yet meaningful possibilities for unit compositions. and alone the fact that there was no real grid on the map . you could click anywhere and the unit would stop exactly on that pixel. seamless turning, seamless placement of buildings...
    great stuff!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +1

      It's a game I actually want to play more :D

  • @Roadkill7878
    @Roadkill7878 3 месяца назад

    Phil, brilliant tutorial. Made setting up really easy. Thank you

  • @gospatrick
    @gospatrick 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is incredibly helpful. Thanks so much.

  • @F1nalspace
    @F1nalspace 10 месяцев назад +4

    Really good guide! As a matter of fact, its the best one out there on youtube, so thumbs up ;-)
    One note, if you use a AMD K6 II+ CPU instead of Pentium 2, the performance on games are much better. For example, 3D Mark 99 has a total score of 4311 (11430 CPU).
    But it requires a very fast CPU to run this! On my 7950X (forced to 85W limit to prevent 90° heat) a AMD K6-II+ with 450 MHz works just fine with almost 100% speeds - when a game/application is already loaded. But loading something slows down that machine enormously and PCem drops to 60-90% of speed until the load is finished, but when its loaded it runs at 100% while in-game (tested with unreal gold)

  • @Renderman-Official
    @Renderman-Official 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great idea making this guide! Quick and easy way to set up PCem. It can be somewhat daunting for new users.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, it's something I'm passionate about. Get people into this hobby with low difficulty so they have a positive first start and then can branch out to whatever they find interesting!

  • @thesmokingcap
    @thesmokingcap 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love PCem, it's great having options. As well as the ability to test stuff without having to rebuild or tear apart vintage PC's. Such as custom Windows install disks etc

  • @johnk7134
    @johnk7134 11 месяцев назад +1

    with this you can have it all in one!! Thank you Phil

  • @JPeters-uj3wx
    @JPeters-uj3wx 11 месяцев назад +2

    The cleanup of Win98 brought back memories. I did that so many times back in the day.

  • @kenfreeman8888
    @kenfreeman8888 3 дня назад +2

    Very informative. I want to have this video up when I set up my machine. Thank you.

  • @TheOneRobUK
    @TheOneRobUK 11 месяцев назад +9

    Started playing around with PCem the other month, making various setups was fun and I pretty much duplicated this one. Couldn't get Quake II running that great but was pretty good for everything else I threw at from before 1999. Looking forward to what the team produce in the future. It ended up a stepping stone to me getting a retro machine but I ended up concentrating on XP era as PCEM was working out so well and my space is limited.

    • @kennethober6626
      @kennethober6626 8 месяцев назад

      Quake 2 isn’t going to run well on anything lower than a Pentium 133 or lower at lowest resolution. My i7 can Quake 2 on a Pentium 2 350 or K62 300 AFR with 3Dnow! at 1024x768 but oddly stutters at lower resolutions on the system. My sweet spot are 133 / 166 mhz for 320x240 resolution on Pentium 90 era games.

  • @Hansch1986
    @Hansch1986 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have been playing around with this configuration the last few weeks. A lot of fun going through my favourite PC games from when I was a child. :)

  • @rwprime1
    @rwprime1 4 месяца назад +4

    Windows 10 heads up. We can't rtclk HDD.vhd and mount it like Phil does here in his fine video using windows 11. Here's the solution. Shut down win98 emulation and then kill it to get back to PCem. Then in windows 10, rtclk Start and lftclk Disk Management then above choose Action and in there choose Attach VHD and browse to whatever you named it, wherever you put it and paste in your folders with the driver .exe / .inf files (it became the I: drive in my PC). Then eject it (unmount). Now you can start windows 98 again and continue. Around 8:14 mins in the video. BTW, that's the beauty and whole reason for going with .vhd instead of the Raw (.img) choice, you don't have to convert everything and I mean everything into .iso files. You just leave them as they are (.exe / .inf files)(dblclk .exe and use Device Manager / Update Driver for .inf). Hat's off to Phil for that. Every other video I've watched on PCem went with .img and converting to iso(s).

    • @EEisen
      @EEisen 4 месяца назад +1

      This comment saved me asome headache.. thx bro!!

    • @MattPilz
      @MattPilz 3 месяца назад +1

      Nice save! A lot less convenient than the "Mount" option, which oddly does still exist for VHDX but PCEm doesn't output to that format.

    • @johnflood6444
      @johnflood6444 Месяц назад

      Still can't get it to work out days Virtual disk files must be uncompressed and unencrypted and mus.T not be sparce, omg 5hrs of this and can't get it to work any help please

  • @ricigri1242
    @ricigri1242 3 месяца назад

    I don't know how to thank you so much for such a detailed video... Thank you!!!!!

  • @zungalele
    @zungalele 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tried and it worked great, thank you!

  • @carlosenriquesappa2049
    @carlosenriquesappa2049 11 месяцев назад +1

    Genio Maestro gracias por el tutorial, un saludo desde Argentina

  • @Lunchbox6954
    @Lunchbox6954 5 месяцев назад

    You are the GOAT! I was using my Compaq Persario 1894 laptop forever, but it kept flipping out since its impossible to find the right drivers, this saves me tons of time trying to mess with actual hardware and get straight to the meat and potatos

  • @RetroSmoo
    @RetroSmoo 9 месяцев назад

    Very good to see a new video on pcem. PCem is probably the best for emulating powerful retro hardware though i also really like using dosbox pure, it has a retroarch core so you can play with crt shaders and bezels which look really cool and even in EmuVR

  • @cesaru3619
    @cesaru3619 11 месяцев назад +23

    Well done Phil, you listened to my recommendation on using PCem, which come from my frustration on having to waste SPACE, MONEY, and TIME with real old hardware and going for a better alternative to DosBox. We all should contribute/donate as developers/users to PCem to keep it free. Michael Manley is the current project maintainer and the forum is open.

    • @Nico93
      @Nico93 11 месяцев назад +1

      86box will always be free.

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 11 месяцев назад +1

      Mostly in many cases an average user doesn't need old hardware if it is not affordable. Emulation is fair enough. But you can't get the same joy from connecting Win98 to the Internet as it was back then. ICQ has gone, AOL has gone. OMG OMG OMG!! PalTalk is still alive!!!! Just got to know right now by searching 🤧🤧🤧

    • @daishi5571
      @daishi5571 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ran2wild370 Uh Oh! I met my wife on ICQ (I'm from England and she from the USA) Married 23 years this November.

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 11 месяцев назад

      @@daishi5571 :-)) Lucky you are.

    • @BigFunnyGiant
      @BigFunnyGiant 2 месяца назад

      @@ran2wild370ICQ is still around.

  • @cyrodiilwarrior
    @cyrodiilwarrior 5 месяцев назад +1

    Many thanks for this, has helped a lot.

  • @jonesy3000
    @jonesy3000 11 месяцев назад +11

    Great video Phil. Pcem only uses 1 cpu core so the faster the better and hyper threading off. Also settting CD speed to 72x will speed up the windows install and game installs.

  • @LaConan2027
    @LaConan2027 10 месяцев назад

    thank you so much for the files, i always wanted to try this but could not find a step by step tutorial

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  10 месяцев назад

      You're welcome, hope it works out for you 🙂

  • @grayghost832
    @grayghost832 6 дней назад

    My benchmark was extremely similar. Thanks for the guide! I had an issue with sound not working but what ended up fixing it was actually rebooting my physical PC.

  • @nrg753
    @nrg753 11 месяцев назад +3

    I own hardware similar very similar to this, but emulation is the future! PCem gives a really authentic experience provided you have the power to run it! The final boss would be an FPGA that can emulate an AthlonXP with a GeForce 🤩 future generations will get to experience the fun too. Love how you used the VDI to transfer files, I wouldn't have thought to do that.

  • @Telepatok
    @Telepatok 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome stuff! Thanks, Phil!

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks. I managed to get some life into one of my Win98 machines again but who knows for how long. It’s having some bizarre issues. So emulating is definitely the future as more and more old hardware dies.

  • @adamsfusion
    @adamsfusion 11 месяцев назад +9

    If you're using 86Box, the sound card you want is the [PCI] Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1371). Purportedly, this is what the Sound Blaster 128 used on board. This combo worked great for me.

  • @IceManHG117
    @IceManHG117 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for posting this. I will try it when I get home.

  • @damsonn
    @damsonn 11 месяцев назад +2

    I often get questions about how I setup my PCem for running those most problematic early Windows games. If you never did it in the past on actual harware it may seem daunting and I never get to making any tutorial on this. Now I have a really good tutorial video to point my viewers to. And with all the resources nicely linked - beautiful work!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +3

      I like your channel! Flight sim games are quite daunting to me, often I can't even take off LOL I played a lot of F-15 Strike Eagle II back in the day and Commanche with the Voxel graphics :D

    • @damsonn
      @damsonn 11 месяцев назад

      @@philscomputerlab I;ve followed on your great tutorial and provided some additional steps needed for flight sim fans (joystick setup) as well as example of intsalling Jane's Longbow 2 - probably one of the most problematic flight sims to run on modern systems. I linked your video as a prerequisite. Thanks again for your wonderful tutorial! I hope you don't mind if I post a link here -> ruclips.net/video/7pPpoqtD9Og/видео.html

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@damsonn I'll have to check out that game. For some reason GOG had a lot of flight Sim games. I have two basic joysticks, one Logitech and another Thrustmaster...

    • @damsonn
      @damsonn 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@philscomputerlab Sadly many good flight sims like this one are lost in licensing hell. Most flight sims from Jane's Combat Simulations or Digital Image Design are nowhere to be found. Even some of Microprose titles are missing from digital stores (F-15 Strike Eagle 3, Gunship 2000). But yeah, Jane's Longbow 2 is one of the best helicopter flight simulation of all time. And real pain to run on modern system without help of other software :)

  • @rubymayvalentine
    @rubymayvalentine 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for this tutorial. Thanks to this I was able to convert my copy of pokemon project studio red version to an iso and actually run it on my computer. I wasn't able to print the fun stationary as a kid cus we didn't have a printer but now I can :D Made some post cards today thanks to you!

  • @toddfraser7009
    @toddfraser7009 11 месяцев назад +13

    PCem development has slowed significantly since the original programmer left.
    I recommend 86box instead. It's a fork of PCem that is still in active development.

    • @coreyc6798
      @coreyc6798 11 месяцев назад

      I agree, plus it has a few more hardware options like pentium 3, and a handful more GPUs

    • @francisco5171
      @francisco5171 11 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/LnOcRqIhbFo/видео.html PCem have better performance in general, less options but more simple

    • @mrcrue13
      @mrcrue13 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@coreyc6798 I also believe 86box is more accurate. It ends up running a bit slower than PCem due to the removal of some speed "hacks"

    • @coreyc6798
      @coreyc6798 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@mrcrue13 yeah, it may be, my Ryzen 9 definitely likes PCem a lot more than 86Box. I personally think PCBox(although it’s pretty much 86Box developer mode), kinda meets in the middle. Still has the newer stuff but has a slightly faster recompiler.

    • @adamsfusion
      @adamsfusion 11 месяцев назад

      @@coreyc6798 I'm in the same boat. I have a plenty fast Ryzen 7, but 86Box gives it a run for its money.

  • @magrathean0
    @magrathean0 4 месяца назад +2

    This video does what it says on the tin. After about 1 and a 1/2 hours following simple instructions, I now have a win 98 emulator and can play Stars. Thank you

  • @schlingel0017
    @schlingel0017 7 месяцев назад +1

    It is just great. I didn't try out any game yet but I am feeling very excited to play Imperialism and Phantasmagoria II on it. Thank you.

    • @schlingel0017
      @schlingel0017 7 месяцев назад

      Phantasmagoria installed and runs perfectly!

  • @affordablecomputerso
    @affordablecomputerso 10 месяцев назад +1

    You da man! This was a fantastic video! Easy to follow, links to download. Thank you!

  • @ahabwolf7580
    @ahabwolf7580 11 месяцев назад

    Where was this video a month ago when I was trying to do all of this lol. Thanks Phil!

  • @ChrisFredriksson
    @ChrisFredriksson 11 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome, another video! ❤ Saving it for tonight when I hit the bed. I wish you'll have a wonderful weekend! ❤😋

  • @jamesross3939
    @jamesross3939 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video! I really like emulation. I like real hardware too, but I have space constraints... I can have a couple of old PC's setup but that's about it.

  • @CaptainKenway
    @CaptainKenway 11 месяцев назад +6

    It's awesome that stuff like this is being worked on, given the ever-growing price tags and ever-decreasing supply of retro hardware. Obviously it doesn't give quite the same buzz as working with classic parts, but it's extremely convenient.

    • @SZF123456
      @SZF123456 21 день назад

      i want to own things, and be happy

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak 11 месяцев назад +1

    Happy Friday Phil! I like PCEm and have setup both 98 and ME systems with it. My challenge has been getting a beefy enough system to play smoothly without audio stuttering or visual freezing in gameplay. Lowering what CPU you’re using in PCEm usually does the trick.

    • @user-lk7cv8vg7r
      @user-lk7cv8vg7r 11 месяцев назад +1

      CPU demand is very high for PCem. Even my 5900x gets killed trying to run a k6 III and voodoo3

    • @Blink_____
      @Blink_____ 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-lk7cv8vg7r I am never able to get consistent performance out of stuff like PCem and Dosbox, even trying to emulate something that should be easy like a Pentium 90, you go try to run a game like Stargunner and its extremely inconsistent

    • @ZacharyNoah
      @ZacharyNoah 11 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@user-lk7cv8vg7r On my Beelink SER4 4800U Mini PC, I didn’t experience any stutters or slowdowns on my PCem guest system, which runs on my emulated Intel Pentium MMX 200 system with 128MB RAM, a 4GB IDE hard drive, a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 video card, and a Creative SoundBlaster AWE32 sound card. My go-to operating system on my PCem guest setup is an unofficial version of Windows 95, namely Windows 95D Lite by Razorback.

  • @metall_lover
    @metall_lover 7 месяцев назад +5

    Finally, tested the PCem on the Ryzen 5600H CPU. Emulation of Pentium II 233 MHz together with Voodoo 2 and Windows 98SE goes really well. Quake II is playable like on the real hardware. Thief The Dark Project is running very good. Great project.

  • @danielglau229
    @danielglau229 7 месяцев назад

    this made my day....tried so many vms to get my Win98 back...and this works better than my original pc ten years ago...
    Thank you so much for the detailed guide!

  • @meanquestion
    @meanquestion 11 месяцев назад

    Fantastic! Can confirm these instructions work *perfectly* with PCem's v 17 Linux version. (note, if you are using a new distro with a Wayland based Window System you need to start the emulator with GDK_BACKEND=x11 before program name in terminal to make it run correctly)
    I was having some issues getting 98 installed with the other emulated system types, but Slot 1 works great. Was able to run games from when I was a kid (Diablo 1 and Sim Golf) flawlessly.

  • @sofiaknyazeva
    @sofiaknyazeva 10 месяцев назад

    This is an awesome resource and guide Phil! Here's some nitpicks
    To transfer files into PCem, if anyone is using older versions of Windows, e.g. Windows 7, then I'd recommend to pack everything (drivers, games) and create an ISO image and burn it to PCem. MagicISO works great, and the key is public already, so it'll be great ease. :) and if anyone is using Linux, there's mkisofs (also known as genisoimage) which will do the job!
    To get a higher clock speed, you can actually get this on a decade old CPU too! If it's an Intel CPU, make sure to enable hyperthreading, and you're ready to go. Intel CPU single core performance is still capable to emulate them. PCem heavily uses SSE varient instructions. Sometimes however PCem may slow down, but it's because of the emulation process, it's not exactly as raw hardware, but shouldn't have any major issues.

  • @franciscooteiza
    @franciscooteiza 8 месяцев назад +3

    "I like it easy, life is hard enough" - Phil 2023

  • @BagheeraRaceGamer
    @BagheeraRaceGamer 2 месяца назад

    This is brilliant. I'll be returning here to install NFS4HS and American McGee's Alice wih EAX sound - thank you!

  • @amireliad
    @amireliad 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks, really worked easily

  • @w35137
    @w35137 11 месяцев назад +5

    You the man Phil! I even got it working on Linux (Pop! OS) with a little extra work to get the VHD mountable. There's a bug in the Linux version that makes the key combo to release the mouse not work. Pressing the middle mouse button does still release it though.

    • @RetroSmoo
      @RetroSmoo 9 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn't get the linux version to compile so im using windows version via proton and runs really well

  • @harleyn3089
    @harleyn3089 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the tutorial and files. Very cool stuff.
    The biggest issue I've had with PCem is the sound emulation performance. I set up a Windows XP VM with a K6-III 450 and a Voodoo 3 (for nostalgia reasons). On a Zen 3, Ryzen 5450u laptop, with no sound emulated the virtual machine was using about 10% of the processor. When I enabled sound blaster emulation and started using it, the processor load shot up to 100% and was barely keeping up. It seems like there is something the developers could do to improve the performance of the sound emulation. Of course it's possible that the sound emulation is very accurate and that's why it's such high load, but I'd be fine with something functional and great sounding rather than bit accurate for sound specifically, if it would greatly decrease the processor load.
    Also, it's completely possible I missed something when setting up the machine, so any guru level tips are welcome.

    • @danielsfonseca
      @danielsfonseca 11 месяцев назад

      Your CPU is too weak for a K6-3 450MHz. To be frankly, maybe next-gen Intel and AMD CPUs should be able to emulate this CPU.

    • @harleyn3089
      @harleyn3089 11 месяцев назад

      @@danielsfonseca It works perfectly with low host CPU load as long as I don't use sound card emulation.

  • @hiccup7829
    @hiccup7829 23 дня назад

    Best tutorial out there. Nothing comes even close!

  • @unstopable1955
    @unstopable1955 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow great tutorial!!! I was finally able to play atomic bomberman on windows 98.

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 11 месяцев назад +1

    I liked this era of computing!

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 3 месяца назад

    @PhilsComputerLab I have used this tutorial MANY times now, thank you so much! If you don't mind a suggestion from the peanut gallery, I would VERY much appreciate it if you did a more specific deep dive into tutorial land. Some more "advanced" stuff.

  • @sokmunky4104
    @sokmunky4104 5 месяцев назад

    I set this up a while back on an intel i9 10850k box. I was playing around with the higher processor speeds and I realized your box definitely needs a heck of a setup to get max Pentium II speeds without it slowing down. I recently upgraded to the new i9 14900k and I am hoping it will be enough to emulate the speeds I am looking for. I have several old systems I can play with, but the parts are starting to fail. It is more of a hassle to keep them running than it would be to emulate a near perfect old system setup. Thanks for the easy guide.

  • @12me91
    @12me91 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I'll be doing this tonight

  • @sdunc8418
    @sdunc8418 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’m a big fan of this kind of content on the channel. Already liked and subscribed so throwing a comment in too!
    I hear 3D games on windows xp is difficult, not sure if pc em is better than the other solutions around. Pass through GPU? Brute processing power on emulation? I’m here for it 😊

    • @TheMiniPCTester
      @TheMiniPCTester 11 месяцев назад

      What do you meant with 3D games on XP are difficult? XP hardware is still very affordable and plentiful...

  • @Serpsss
    @Serpsss 11 месяцев назад

    Looks like PCem has made a lot of progress & I might finally get a chance to see 3dfx.
    My main win98 gaming machines have been a HP T5720 with a geforce 2 & a dell c510 laptop (pentium 3 +radeon) & dock holding a soundblaster for dos gaming.
    I also have an acer aspire revo for Windows xp.

  • @giokiborg
    @giokiborg 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video!
    I saw somewhere and cant find it:
    to setup a emulator, with a single game which will boot automatically after starting the VM,
    It is adding a few houndread megs for each game, but its not an issue for the modern storage and each game will act lika a console ROM,
    So you would setup one clean windows install, than for each game, copy it, install game and create autorun script for the game

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 11 месяцев назад +1

    I really need to look at this. It would be so much better than just building/buying a period-accurate PC.

  • @EgoShredder
    @EgoShredder 11 месяцев назад

    That Windows 98 startup chime never grows old.

  • @Romerco77
    @Romerco77 11 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, didn't know PCem supported Voodoo emulation, wonder if it will support Creative EAX in the future. Also seeing videos with comparison against real hardware, accuracy, etc, would be awesome

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video.. thanks and have a great weekend.. cheers.

  • @TooManyHobbies786
    @TooManyHobbies786 7 месяцев назад

    Great video as always! I had trouble with my USB joystick passthrough--for any others with this, I had to go into "add hardware" "sound, video and game.." manual search, add a microsoft standard gameport device. It went and got some files from the win98 setup folder (which you should always have on your machine) and then it recognized my joystick.

  • @GeneralFaliure
    @GeneralFaliure 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, that was helpful

  • @octopusgaming4027
    @octopusgaming4027 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. I'm thinking about to replace my old hardware machine and this might be the right solution for that.
    Mounting a VHD and copying the nedded stuff is absolut perfect.
    Vielen Dank für die ausführliche Anleitung!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад

      Bitte schoen :D Just wait before you throw out old hardware. I plan on spending more time with PCem and 98Box to really make up my mind. I've only started using it and don't want to make an oppinion video before really testing it and checking a range of aspects and configurations!

    • @octopusgaming4027
      @octopusgaming4027 11 месяцев назад

      @@philscomputerlab I leave my system here, just as a backup. I just wonder, if I can, somehow connect my old Roland SC-D70 to the virtual machine. It's connected with USB.
      I think, you gave me a bit things to test this evening 🙂
      The question in this virtual machine is: How high can you get the specs and can it run Crysis?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад

      It would have to pass through USB, I'm not sure it support this...

    • @octopusgaming4027
      @octopusgaming4027 11 месяцев назад

      @@philscomputerlab I'll have a look. There are Windows 98 drivers for my Roland and if the VM supports USB hardware, it might work

    • @IstvanNagy86
      @IstvanNagy86 11 месяцев назад

      @@octopusgaming4027 MIDI passthrough is an option, as you can connect eg. Munt to PCem to have more faithful MT-32 emulation.

  • @GameGamer
    @GameGamer 6 месяцев назад

    Any suggestions of another machine I can use instead of "[Slot 1] Gigabyte GA-686BX with Pentium II/233"?
    A game I am trying out runs very slow and laggy, and I've tried tampering with the megahertz but with the same results :(

  • @rfratelli
    @rfratelli 7 месяцев назад

    Phil, awesome content as usual. I just noticed that when using the SoundBlaster PCI 128 the audio output is very very low. I changed it to Soundblaster 16 and sound volume is ok now (not extra louder, but it seems this is by design as per PCem). The only downside that it is not PnP under windows so you have to manually install the hardware via control panel.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 месяцев назад +1

      And DOS compatibility would also be better. I'm planning on testing 86Box but also taking a look at DOS and how it compares against DOSBox...

    • @rfratelli
      @rfratelli 7 месяцев назад

      I was doing the exact same thing still in PCem. Now that you mentioned i got curious about 86Box... I'm mainly interested in Racing games (Papyrus / Microprose and need for speed of course! ) and it seems that the Joystick Mapper from PCEm works a little bit better than dosbox when mapping several inputs (modern wheel, pedals and shifters). I created a vm for win98 as per your video and another one just for DOS with a P233mmx / 32MB / SB16 / S3 Virge. The "sbbasic" drivers from your page works great as well as your MS-DOS Starter Pack. Still trying to figure out if S3 Virge is the best vga option or if i should just stick with the Voodoo. @@philscomputerlab

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu 11 месяцев назад

    Seems like a great option. I don't have the space for much retro hardware(my A1200 and accessories take up most of it) and DOSBox was too far back for me in x86 terms, so having something to run old Windows games on would be great, especially since I have all my CDs still. Only issue is whether I'd be able to somehow mount my USB BD writer as an IDE drive in the emulator.
    It might also be useful for something I did using WinUAE, and that was set up my real retro hardware using an emulator in on my modern computer.
    I plugged in the 2.5" HD in using a USB adapter, set up an Amiga 1200 with hardware identical hardware to my real one in the emulator, mounted the USB/IDE hard disk as hard drive 0 and installed everything using the emulator. Once done I just up and plugged the resulting disk into the IDE of my A1200 and off it went.
    Since most of my floppy disks didn't survive storage, it really helped me keep playing my oldies on real hardware.

  • @gruntreaper
    @gruntreaper 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks fam

  • @HeadsetGuy
    @HeadsetGuy 11 месяцев назад +12

    I prefer 86Box over PCem, myself. One great thing that 86Box has that PCem doesn't is the ability to mount folders as if they were ISO images; any folder you mount will show up as a CD-ROM in the emulated machine. The one disadvantage is that it doesn't (currently) have its own configuration manager, though they're working on it; in the meantime, you'd need to either install a separate one or use the command line if you want to manage multiple machines.

    • @Imgema
      @Imgema 11 месяцев назад

      I didn't know that, this is very handy. You can also mount the virtual hard disks on the host Windows machine as ejectable, portable hard disks. This way you can copy to/from your virtual machines directly. Though i'm not sure if this can't be done with PCem disks too.

    • @IstvanNagy86
      @IstvanNagy86 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Imgema this is the way I do it, however this requires the shut down of the virtual machine unfortunately. So a direct folder share sounds interesting, though missing from PCem. I solve this by creating virtual ISO files. It's also possible to create network sharing by firing up a tiny FTP server on the host for example and connecting to it from eg. Total Commander.

    • @francisco5171
      @francisco5171 11 месяцев назад +1

      i prefer the performance from PCem in general, if i need copy some programs or data, just use daemon tools and mount the hard drive from the emulated machine for transfer the data in it :)

  • @HOUCEMATE
    @HOUCEMATE 10 месяцев назад

    You're an absolute legend

  • @summerxia9027
    @summerxia9027 11 месяцев назад +2

    Happy Phil's day

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks you Phil for the guide and resources!
    It's been a while since I tried PCem, I was using an i5 3570, maybe now with the Ryzen 5 5600G I will enjoy the newest features.
    I wonder what would happen if you set up a machine under this environment and then clone it to a real hardware and run it on a very similar real setup, I have used VirtualBox to initiate the setup of some machines with stubborn slim CD-ROMs and USB ports so it start the recovery from a partition image. 😁

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  11 месяцев назад +1

      The cloning should work I believe. It might reassign some resources after the first boot, but nothing 98 can't handle. Cloning will also work for situations when you have nothing to boot from, like an old laptop with faulty floppy drive.

  • @philippepanayotov9632
    @philippepanayotov9632 11 месяцев назад

    You are fantastic! ❤

  • @AndrewCFL
    @AndrewCFL 2 месяца назад

    This is better then virtualbox thank you so much for helping me

  • @efpcvintageplanet3406
    @efpcvintageplanet3406 11 месяцев назад +4

    we retropc and retrogaming lovers should make you a monument. Thank you🤩